1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: Live from the heartlier and the crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: Tony Kats Today. 3 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 2: The reason poverty exists in the wealthiest country on Earth 4 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 2: is not because we can't feed the poor. It's because 5 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 2: we can't satisfy the rich. Elon Musk is about to 6 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 2: become the first trillionaire. He is about to make more 7 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 2: money than every elementary school teacher in America combined. Do 8 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 2: we really believe one man is worth more than every 9 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 2: elementary school teacher? Why do we have a trillionaire when 10 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 2: they're kids without enough to eat? Why do we have 11 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 2: a trillionaire when cancer patients are going bankrupt? Why do 12 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 2: we have a trillionaire when veterans are sleeping out on 13 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 2: the street. 14 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 3: Do you want me to go through these one by one, 15 00:00:55,680 --> 00:01:00,319 Speaker 3: mister Tillerco, I'm happy to answer these for you. This 16 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 3: is James tell Rico. He is a candidate for Senate 17 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 3: in Texas, and he is everything that's wrong with public education, 18 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:11,119 Speaker 3: everything that's wrong with the university set, and everything that's 19 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 3: wrong with progressivism. 20 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: Tony Katz, Tony Katz Today, good to be with you. 21 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 3: Find everything I do over at Tony Katz dot com. 22 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 3: But he's not. 23 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 2: Done I'm all for success, but this is not success. 24 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 2: This is hoarding. What leads a person to accumulate more 25 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,559 Speaker 2: money than they could possibly spend in a hundred lifetimes 26 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 2: when there are people starving in this one. The reason 27 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 2: poverty exists in the wealthiest country on earth is not 28 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 2: because we can't feed the poor. It's because we can't 29 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 2: satisfy the rich. But what we can do is tax 30 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 2: trillionaires out of existence, ladies and gentlemen. 31 00:01:56,200 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 3: The violence left and when they say yes, but no, no, no, no, 32 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 3: taxes come via the barrel of a gun. You don't 33 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 3: pay your taxes, we take your stuff, we throw you 34 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 3: in jail, we hurt you. And that is what James 35 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 3: Tallerico caring leftist, wants to do. This is the argument 36 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 3: to the left. 37 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: This is the hatred. I can take just some of. 38 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 3: His arguments really quickly and describe how embarrassing and shameful 39 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 3: and unbelievably dumb they are. First, more money than you 40 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 3: can spend in one hundred lifetimes. I guess that depends 41 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 3: on what you spend it on. What makes you think 42 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 3: Elon won't spend it on hungry children? You have no 43 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:43,239 Speaker 3: idea what he's going to spend it on. The guy 44 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 3: spend forty billion dollars on Twitter. Clearly he doesn't have 45 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 3: a good idea of value. Who knows what he's going 46 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 3: to spend it on. That's his business. Because you see 47 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 3: all those people who have cancer, and you see all 48 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 3: those people who are hungry, No one of them. 49 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:03,959 Speaker 1: Are the fault of Elon Musk. 50 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 3: You look at this thing over here and say this 51 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 3: thing is terrible, and then you take a look at. 52 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: Someone and say, let's blame him. 53 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 3: My god, Tall Rico, I'm just image you didn't blame 54 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 3: the Jews, or black people or immigrants. 55 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 1: I mean, this is the. 56 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 3: Same conversation that you're having that you obstensibly don't like. 57 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 3: You and your political party don't like about the right. 58 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:30,959 Speaker 3: This is the claim you're making. Oh, it's those immigrants 59 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 3: that are the problem. Immigrants are not the problem. Immigrants 60 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 3: who don't want to be a part of America, well, 61 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 3: that is a problem. 62 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: Anybody who's countering to America is a problem. 63 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 3: Anybody trying to undercut America is clearly a problem. This 64 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 3: is easily said and understood. But what's the difference in 65 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 3: your other rising James Telrico and the answer is absolutely 66 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 3: positively nothing. Look at what a hateful, spiteful human being 67 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 3: you are. These people are hungry, these people are poor, 68 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 3: and it's his fault. Great, you went after the trillionaire. 69 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 3: Wait till he starts going after one hundred thousand hours, 70 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 3: because oh that's you. Hey, how are you? That's you? 71 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 3: Do you think this philosophy ends with the amount of money. 72 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 3: I'm all for success. No you're not. You're all for 73 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 3: power in deciding somebody has too much success because it 74 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 3: offends you and taking it via the barrel of a gun. 75 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 3: You're a violent man, James Talerico, a violent, violent, petty 76 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 3: little man who can't do it on his own. You're 77 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 3: not man enough to hold up Elon Musk. You're not 78 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 3: mad enough to put the gun to his back, never 79 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 3: mind his front, and say stick him up. No, you 80 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 3: need to run for Senate so you can have the 81 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 3: government do it, you absolute pansy coward. We see you. 82 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 3: By the way, I'm not in favor of holding up 83 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 3: Elon Musk. I'm utilizing its illustrated point. The point is you, 84 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 3: James tel Rico, I don't care about your whole story. 85 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 3: And the guy has a story. Everybody has a story 86 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 3: member of the Democratic Party in the Texas House of Representatives, 87 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 3: masters of Education degree and education policy from Harvard. Well, 88 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 3: good for him, but no one taught him that government 89 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 3: is force and by saying I've decided that that person 90 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 3: has too much, you are the authoritarian. No one taught 91 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 3: him this, this embarrassing, embarrassing child. What do you mean child. 92 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 3: Well he's thirty six, so not a child, but he 93 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 3: certainly sounds like one. He certainly acts like one. He's 94 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 3: got more cookie than I do. He has to give 95 00:05:56,640 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 3: me some of his cookie. That's James Tallerico, James Salerco. 96 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 3: Want't your cookie? Not in the fun way. That's just 97 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:10,479 Speaker 3: one of many, many stories, but goes to the idea 98 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:14,799 Speaker 3: of my gosh, these people will say and do anything 99 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 3: except recognize that we should have rules, and we should 100 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 3: have laws, and there's no law against being a trillionaire. 101 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:30,359 Speaker 3: And if you want to do something about the costs 102 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 3: for people who have cancer or dealing with cancer in healthcare, 103 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 3: we can let's start by getting rid of Obamacare. 104 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: Because it doesn't work. 105 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 3: Are we allowed to do something about the illegal immigration issue? 106 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 3: People who have already been let in the country who 107 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 3: shouldn't be let in the country. 108 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know that New York Times story, right? 109 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:51,720 Speaker 3: The New York Times came out with. 110 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 1: A story yesterday. 111 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 3: Well, you know a lot of people told Joe Biden 112 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 3: that his immigration policy wasn't working and he should be 113 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 3: doing more. But they didn't look at that. They wouldn't 114 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 3: want to listen to that. The Biden administration and their 115 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 3: cohorts in the media told us that the border was 116 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 3: safe and secure. 117 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:10,239 Speaker 1: They did it, day after day after day. 118 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 3: They lied. We knew they were lying it, they kept 119 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 3: doing it, and the media kept going with it, sharing 120 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 3: that lie, calling people like us, you and me, no 121 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 3: matter where we are in the political spectrum, xenophobes for 122 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 3: noticing that the border wasn't safe. And now five years later, 123 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 3: here comes the New York Times to say, well, we 124 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 3: did our reporting, and our reporting shows us the Biden 125 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:35,239 Speaker 3: administration wouldn't listen. 126 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: Where the hell was your reporting for five years? You 127 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: were okay with all the suffering because you. 128 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 3: Didn't want to give Donald Trump any opportunity to get 129 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 3: the victory. Why do you think, New York Times, the 130 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 3: people hate you, and now you've had Immigrations and Customers 131 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 3: Enforcement moving people in the country illegally out now, Just 132 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 3: so we're on the same page, I do not belie 133 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 3: leave that ICE can ask anybody for their papers. 134 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: Do you know somebody is here illegally? 135 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 3: Now, someone's involved in a lawful arrest or stopp or attention, 136 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 3: just like in Arizona they have SB ten seventy. I 137 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 3: believe that there are places where you can ask that question. 138 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 3: Are you in the country legally? But walking around and 139 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 3: saying show me your papers? Absolutely not. Some cop walks 140 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 3: up to me and says, show me your ID. What 141 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 3: the hell's wrong with you? I don't show papers to 142 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 3: cross the street, get bent. 143 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: Do you suspect me of a crime? Otherwise I'm walking away. 144 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 3: Now. We've seen cops enough times now that I'm gonna 145 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 3: get arrested for doing absolutely nothing wrong. And that's an 146 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 3: issue with the police that we should be honest about. 147 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 3: But if there is an understanding of this is an 148 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 3: area where we have people who are in the country illegally. 149 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 3: I don't have an issue with ICE doing their job, 150 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 3: and no one should. But if you were to ask 151 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 3: MS NOW and the people they're talking to over at 152 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 3: MS NOW, like Congressman Robert Garcia. 153 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 4: Okay, let's move on to the immigration crackdown that we're 154 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 4: seeing with this administration, because I know tomorrow you're going 155 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 4: to be leading a public forum in combination with Senator 156 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 4: Richard Blumenthal to hear from American citizens who have been 157 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 4: caught up in enforcement actions by this administration. This as 158 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 4: we're seeing more disturbing reports like this the Miami Herald 159 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 4: capturing a moment a woman in Florida was forcibly removed 160 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 4: from her car on the way to work. DHS claims 161 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 4: she was detained after failing to follow orders. But listen 162 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 4: to her calling for help. Here's say, I'm a US citizen, 163 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 4: Please help me. How does it's been like this fit 164 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 4: into the stories you might hear tomorrow? 165 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 3: Is there a through line there? Over? 166 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 5: We know of over one hundred and seventy US citizens 167 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 5: that have been detained by ICE, many of whom have 168 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 5: spent days in detention without any ability to call their 169 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 5: family or access to a lawyer. Now, we know in 170 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 5: this country that due process is something that is that 171 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 5: both US citizens and non citizens have. 172 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: That's clear. 173 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 3: Now ICE ignores that. Let's stop for a moment. ICE 174 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 3: does not ignore them in this case. Here, I believe 175 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 3: it was Homeland Security that responded with this woman was 176 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 3: in a car with somebody who was here illegally and 177 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 3: was involved in a stop, and that's why she was 178 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 3: also taken into custody at that moment to determine who 179 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 3: she was. And as reported by CBLS at CBS twelve 180 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 3: dot com a statement from US Customs and Border Protection 181 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 3: provided to the Miami Heralds, the woman refused to roll 182 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 3: down her window or provide her driver's license after being stopped. 183 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 3: Agent's then removed her from her car and placed her 184 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:53,959 Speaker 3: in a patrol vehicle while they searched her vehicle, and 185 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 3: then when they got her driver's license and confirmed she 186 00:10:56,720 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 3: was a US citizen, she was released shortly afterward. So 187 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 3: this is ms NOW not giving you the whole story, 188 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 3: not engaged in the honesty. This wasn't a woman who 189 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 3: has just plucked off the streets. 190 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: And you we're going to put you in cuffs. 191 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 3: That isn't what happened. And so here is ms NOW 192 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 3: and Representative Garcia engaged in a lie, in a fraud 193 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 3: and gaslighting the American people on what it is ICE 194 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 3: is doing. By the way, if ICE is walking into 195 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 3: people's houses and arresting them. I want it stopped. If 196 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:37,199 Speaker 3: ICE has the warrants and the knowledge that it's somebody 197 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 3: who's here I legally involved in X, Y and Z, 198 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 3: that's different. But let's listen more to Representative Garcia. 199 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 5: But to go after United States citizens because of the 200 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,439 Speaker 5: color of their skin or because an ICE agent might 201 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 5: think they are undocumented is outrageous. No one now is 202 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 5: safe in this country? 203 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 3: Not true. But if people are here illegally, are not 204 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 3: safe in this country? Okay? Clearly, with the work that 205 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:05,559 Speaker 3: we have done at the border and the shutting down 206 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 3: of illegal immigration at the border, clearly we can argue 207 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 3: we're safer. And clearly we can argue that the more 208 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 3: people in the country illegally that we remove that never 209 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:19,559 Speaker 3: got metted, the safer we will be. If the argument 210 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 3: is we have to safeguard ourselves against abuses of a 211 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 3: police state, I'll say absolutely. Let's start with not attacking 212 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 3: people for the amount of money they have in the 213 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 3: bank by threatening to eradicate them. 214 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:39,959 Speaker 1: See how that works, See. 215 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 3: How we were able to tie that together. Now the 216 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 3: left won't accept the argument. I'm not having this conversation 217 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 3: because I need them to accept it. I need. What 218 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 3: I hope is that other people who maybe haven't thought 219 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 3: about it see it, are like, Okay, Tony's making a 220 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 3: point there. I may not agree with them on everything, 221 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 3: but all right, that's a solid point about the use 222 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 3: of power, the use of authority, the use of governments, 223 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 3: and utilizing it as a weapon. I don't want American 224 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 3: citizens having their rights violated, and I don't think that 225 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 3: attacking Elon Musk for making money is anything other than 226 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 3: government force and government threat. 227 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 5: Because of Donald Trump and what he's done to law 228 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 5: enforcement agencies like ICE and DHS, I've talked to numerous 229 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,559 Speaker 5: US citizens who were detained for days. I talked to 230 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 5: a veteran just a few weeks ago served our country 231 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:34,959 Speaker 5: in Iraq, was detained. 232 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: He did nothing wrong, no criminal record. 233 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 5: He was detained for days, missed his daughter's own birthday. 234 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 5: Has never been given an explanation. A US citizen and 235 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 5: veteran of the United. 236 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 3: States, with all due respect, Representative Garcia, based on what 237 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 3: you said just moments ago about this woman who was detained, 238 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 3: I'm not so sure I'm going to believe your story. 239 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 3: I would like more evidence to the story, more data 240 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 3: to the story. Take you at your word. You've already 241 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 3: proven an MS now has already proven that you are 242 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 3: not credible on this. You're not zero credibility. I think 243 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 3: I would speak for rational people. We wouldn't want any 244 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 3: part of that. We wouldn't want any American citizen detained 245 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 3: for days without representation or anything else. By the way, 246 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 3: asked the representative what he thought about all those J 247 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 3: six defendants. No, no, he doesn't care about them. Okay, 248 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 3: all right, I care all the way around. But I'm 249 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 3: not going to take a man who just in the 250 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 3: same segment, in the same basically breaths lied about what 251 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 3: happened with this woman who was detained after she wouldn't 252 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 3: get out of the car, wouldn't show a driver's license, 253 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 3: was in a car with somebody who the whois was 254 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 3: going after and then when it was determined she was 255 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 3: an American citizen, was released. Now, I'm not gonna I'm 256 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 3: not gonna listen to him. As for the Mayor of Minneapolis. 257 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 6: Jacob Fray, correct, Our police officers will not coordinate with 258 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 6: ICE or any federal agency around immigration law enforcement work. Now, 259 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 6: we do work with federal agents around important criminal activity, narcotics, 260 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 6: gun violence. We arrest perpetrators of violent crime. But we 261 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 6: will not work with federal agents around immigration law enforcement. 262 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 6: Why because we've seen the unconstitutionality of it, We've seen 263 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 6: the chaotic nature that it creates. 264 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 3: We know that it. 265 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 6: Breaks apart families that make Minneapolis better, and we want 266 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 6: nothing to do with it. 267 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 3: And we don't want to stop any riots from happening 268 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 3: in Minneapolis for about a year and just let our 269 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 3: city burn to the freaking grounds. I'm Jacob Fray. Where 270 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 3: can I take a knee for George Floyd? That's him, 271 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 3: that's him. But the people in Minneapolis keep voting for terrible, 272 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 3: You're going to keep getting terrible. That's all there is 273 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 3: to it. By the way, he's got bigger issue shooes, 274 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 3: like the entire Somali fraud case. Yeah, yeah, bigger issues 275 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 3: does he have. But I don't think it's gonna stop Ice. 276 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 3: I think they're gonna keep working. I think they're gonna 277 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 3: keep doing their job. It should be a reasonable thing 278 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 3: to say that Americans can never be abused by law enforcement, 279 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 3: Americans can never be inconvenienced by law enforcement, and any 280 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 3: time there they are, we have to take a look 281 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 3: at the system. I believe this. I will say this 282 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 3: to anyone anywhere, at any time. But should ice keep 283 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 3: working to make sure that we remove illegal immigrants from 284 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 3: the United States. Absolutely, do not stop, do not rest, 285 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 3: do not quit. That is what we voted for. I'm 286 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 3: Tony Katz and this is Tony Katz today. So all 287 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 3: eyes on Indiana redistricting and makes sense because you know, 288 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 3: however this goes, however this works out, the story is 289 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 3: going to be what is worth the fight? That's the question. 290 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 3: Tony Katz, Tony Kats today. Good to be with you. You 291 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 3: guys know I'm based in Indiana. I've been asked a 292 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 3: million million questions regarding what it is that's been happening 293 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 3: here and done some interviews about it. And one of 294 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:33,400 Speaker 3: the questions that I keep getting asked is why is this? 295 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 3: Why is it that Republicans are so hesitant to move 296 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 3: forward on redistricting. I mean, there's a great, great series 297 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 3: of answers here that don't satisfy. The Republican Party in 298 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:50,360 Speaker 3: Indiana is a very weird bird that isn't based on conservatism. 299 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 3: Oh so they're all being led by Mike Pence. No 300 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 3: one here is being led by Mike Pence absolutely, no 301 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 3: one just one of the more ridiculous things ever said. 302 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: I have lived here for. 303 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 3: Eleven years, and what I've seen in my eleven years 304 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 3: from Mike Pence's the governor to Eric Holcomb is the 305 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 3: governor now Mike Brawn is the governor, is that there 306 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 3: is a real lack of team leadership that takes place 307 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 3: from the governor's mansion. There is no rallying the troops 308 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 3: that happens. And the more you watch, the more you 309 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 3: realize that the governor's position here isn't as strong as 310 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 3: it might be in other states. The General Assembly has 311 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 3: much more power and can quite literally in the vast 312 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 3: majority of cases, ignore the governor altogether. Once that's the case, 313 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 3: now they're playing a game of whether or not they're 314 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 3: concerned about your group's ability to get them out of office. 315 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 3: Do they really think that some group of DC named this, 316 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:04,679 Speaker 3: that or the others are going to come in and 317 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,640 Speaker 3: get them out of their district? And in you know, 318 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:11,880 Speaker 3: northwestern Indiana, they don't. And as a matter of fact, 319 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 3: it seems obvious that they're saying to the Trump faithful, 320 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 3: we dare you to. 321 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 1: I mean, that's clearly what's going on. 322 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 3: So the issue here is that these Republicans are immune 323 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 3: to so much of what US conservatives want to engage in, 324 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 3: and until they get real primary challenges, it's true, they 325 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 3: won't respond. They won't respond until their own jobs are 326 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 3: on the line. And actually the only thing that's. 327 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 1: On the line for you, I'm Tony Katz. 328 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 3: I have never heard people discuss the idea of cheating 329 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 3: in the NFL more than I have over the last 330 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 3: six months. Tony Katz, Tony kats today. Good to be 331 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 3: with you, Good to be here. Find out everything I 332 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 3: do over at Tony Katz dot com. Never in my 333 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 3: life have I heard so many people talk about cheating 334 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:11,919 Speaker 3: in football that very clearly there's something going on, and 335 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:13,919 Speaker 3: it's all has to do with the gambling, and the 336 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 3: gambling has become so prolific and proficient everybody's doing it ubiquitous, 337 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:23,159 Speaker 3: that would be the right word. That clearly games are 338 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 3: getting manipulated in order to beat the spread and not 339 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 3: beat the spread. 340 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: It's nuts. 341 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 3: And this was the latest was Dave Portnoy over there 342 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:37,439 Speaker 3: at barstool, and so he posts this video to his 343 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 3: Twitter feed. So I don't know what the rules are, 344 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 3: but I'm sharing it I have. The NFL wants to 345 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 3: come take it down, that's fine. This is the Broncos 346 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 3: Raiders game now full disclosure. 347 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 1: I am not saying that anybody. 348 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 3: Is doing nothing. God I'm trying to avoid that lawsuit. 349 00:20:56,440 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 3: I noticing what it is people are saying a lot. 350 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 3: This conversation is coming up everywhere that there's something really 351 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 3: weird going on. This is the Broncos, the Raiders, and 352 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,959 Speaker 3: the Broncos are up, by the way, they've won ten 353 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 3: in a row. They're nuts, they're good. They're now eleven 354 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,360 Speaker 3: and two. The Broncos are up twenty four to fourteen, 355 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 3: and Portnoy, who I don't know. 356 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 1: Is just losing his mind. 357 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 3: It's a two minute clip where he's like, everybody has 358 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 3: to go to prison. 359 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 7: Listen, we need this entire segment investigated by the NFL. 360 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 7: Third and three to twenty four seconds. The spread is 361 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 7: denver mise eight and a half. They were up twenty. 362 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 3: Four to seven. By the way, like two minutes to go, 363 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 3: he spikes the ball. 364 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 7: Why are you spiking the ball with sixteen seconds in 365 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 7: a ten point game? 366 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 3: Is beyond me. The game is over. 367 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 7: I don't know if I've ever seen a spike in 368 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 7: that situation. 369 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 1: Now he's got a solid point there. 370 00:21:56,640 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 3: The Broncos are up by ten, they're sixteen seconds left. 371 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 3: You're not gonna get two scores. 372 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: In sixteen seconds. 373 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 3: What's the point of it all. It's over. Go for 374 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 3: the end zone. Just to go for the end zone. 375 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 3: It's done. Spiking the ball is to stop the clock, right, 376 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 3: That's that's what you're doing. Okay, you're there to stop 377 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 3: the clock. I hear you. I see you. I don't 378 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 3: quite understand it. It doesn't make sense neither here nor there. 379 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: You're stopping the clock. Fine, but now it gets more interesting. 380 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 7: But we're just starting, boys and girls, we're just starting. 381 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 3: To get now. 382 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 7: I want you to watch this next play, because he's 383 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:38,880 Speaker 7: gonna roll out, throw a pass and get caught. 384 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 3: The clock should run out later. 385 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 7: They can't get up to spike it, and they can't even, 386 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 7: to be honest, get called Pete Carroll. 387 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 3: You're a piece of shit. 388 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll is one of the great scumbags. 389 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 7: I would honestly punch Pete Carroll right his old face if. 390 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:56,679 Speaker 3: I sow his so I hear at Tony Katz today. 391 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 3: Do not recommend the violence. Good Lord Fortnoy. The rules 392 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:10,679 Speaker 3: of the Internet versus the rules of radio were so different. Ha. 393 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 1: Now, I didn't know this about Pete Carroll. 394 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 3: I've done a much better job of getting myself up 395 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 3: to snuff on a lot of different sports categories, football especially. 396 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 8: But man, I didn't know there was such hate for 397 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 8: Pete Carroll, former coach of the Seattle Seahawks, formerly there 398 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 8: USC and some other places, and now with the Las 399 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:32,400 Speaker 8: Vegas Raiders. 400 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: I had no idea, no clue. 401 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 3: And some people are like, oh, and. 402 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: Some people are like, you don't know. 403 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:42,120 Speaker 3: He's called Sneaky Pete. 404 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:43,160 Speaker 1: Sneaky Pete. 405 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 3: Sneaky Pete is a guy who's some low level drug 406 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 3: runner in a much greater mafia story, Sneaky Pete. Next 407 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 3: thing you know, there's Little PAULI. The whole thing's going on. 408 00:23:56,600 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 3: So he's got some choice words for for Pete Carroll. 409 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 3: So the Las Vegas Raiders set up for a pass. 410 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 3: They set up for a pass, they're in the shotgun 411 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 3: and then this all right, here we go sixteen seconds. 412 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:18,439 Speaker 7: Raiders are definitely cheating right now doing whatever big money 413 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 7: clearly on the. 414 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,880 Speaker 1: Raiders plus the points. So they throw down. 415 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 3: Here there's nine eight. 416 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: Watch, watch he gets up. 417 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 3: They call that a delay a game. 418 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 7: There's four seconds, the game is over it What is 419 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 7: that flag? 420 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 3: By the way, we're gonna rewind it. Jones didn't even 421 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:39,400 Speaker 3: do anything. 422 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 1: So the player goes down. 423 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 3: The Las Vegas Raiders player goes down, and then he 424 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 3: gets covered up a little bit by the Broncos on 425 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 3: the defense right to try and run out the clock 426 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 3: or whatever it is. But then the Broncos player gets 427 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 3: up and the Las Vegas player gets up, and all 428 00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 3: the set a flag is thrown and the flag is 429 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,679 Speaker 3: a defends of penalty. But what does the flag do? 430 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 3: It stops the clock with four seconds left. And this 431 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 3: is what's got Portnoy out of his mind, right. He 432 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 3: can't believe it was called a penalty. He's talking about 433 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,479 Speaker 3: him gonna fast forward a little bit, and then he 434 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,640 Speaker 3: gets into what is the crux of the situation? 435 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 7: Delay a game silly played when the game is over. 436 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 7: Laid on, dude, I've seen now a thousand times words. 437 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 7: It's four three to one, go home games over and 438 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,639 Speaker 7: then Pete Carroll runs out the field goal unit. 439 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 1: It kicks a field goal to end the game with 440 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 1: no time. 441 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 7: This guy prison this rep Prison, Pete Carroll prison. 442 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 1: NFL prison. 443 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 7: This is the most rigged game I've ever seen in. 444 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 3: My entire life. And with doing that, with kicking the 445 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:59,880 Speaker 3: field goal, they changed I think the spread was seven 446 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 3: half when they beat the spread, and people are like, 447 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 3: this is it. 448 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: This is the proof the NFL is rigged. 449 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 3: Now, I want to say, for the record again, Roger Goodell, 450 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 3: this is what other people are saying. 451 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:23,120 Speaker 1: I did not say such a thing. But let's not. 452 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 3: Pretend that Portnoyd don't have something interesting to talk about here, 453 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 3: shall we? Let us not beat people who want to 454 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,880 Speaker 3: play some great, big game of make. 455 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 1: Believe that he's just making it all up. Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 456 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 1: that happened. 457 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:50,120 Speaker 3: That happened. My problem with all conspiracy theories is that 458 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:54,879 Speaker 3: once you buy into them, everything's a conspiracy theory. You 459 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:59,120 Speaker 3: can find a conspiracy theory under every pot, you can 460 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 3: find one under a rock, you can turn a corner boom. 461 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 3: Conspiracy theory just hit me in the face. And so 462 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,679 Speaker 3: I think there's a fair amount of that happening. But 463 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:13,159 Speaker 3: are we going to pretend that the gambling doesn't have 464 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 3: an effect on everything? If Pete Rose existed in this 465 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,679 Speaker 3: world would he had ever been banned from baseball for life. 466 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 3: The gambling's ubiquitous. It's twenty four seven, three sixty five. 467 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 3: The look I've done ads before for one of the 468 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 3: one of the betting apps. I'm not opposed to the 469 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:38,439 Speaker 3: betting apps, but holy mackerel, the people are like, you know, 470 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 3: we've got a real problem with betting in the United States. 471 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 1: They're onto something. I don't want to ban it. 472 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 3: Someone said to me that we need to work aggressively 473 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 3: to ban it. I'm like, no, it's legal, and I'm 474 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:52,679 Speaker 3: not here to stop that. There are people out there 475 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 3: who want to ban cigars and bourbon. I tell those 476 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 3: temperance folk to sit down. I'll do what I want. 477 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 3: I'm not interested in your thoughts. Don't tell me about 478 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 3: my health. I'm fully aware. Now, hand me a cigar 479 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 3: on another bourbon. Please. But is this now getting to 480 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 3: a place where outcomes are predetermined and worked to achieve? Right, 481 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 3: it's hard to redetermine whether or not the Broncos can score. 482 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 3: It can be somewhat arranged to ensure an opportunity for 483 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:37,120 Speaker 3: a reduction in the spread. That's that's not theoretical. That 484 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 3: is that that proof is in the proof. Why do 485 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 3: you think they called seven and a half points? What 486 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 3: do you think that half point is? I gotta tell you, 487 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 3: I I not just Portnoy, Right, you could argue Portnoy loudmouth. 488 00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 3: Well whatever. It's a lot of people buying into this, 489 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 3: and we should be clear that the NFL's got a 490 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 3: real problem, a real problem with this. Now do they care? 491 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 1: I don't think they care. 492 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 3: I mean, if they cared, they wouldn't be trying to 493 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 3: push internationally the way they are. And we are just 494 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 3: a decade away from having NFL teams based in other countries. 495 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 3: I mean, you know that that's coming, right, It's two 496 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 3: thousand percent coming. Dear lord. They're playing in Spain, they're 497 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 3: playing in Germany, they're playing in London. I mean, to 498 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 3: one said, you know, to play in Israel would be 499 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 3: pretty cool. They're not gonna do that. I would like 500 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 3: to see which NFL players don't show up, just so 501 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 3: I know which ones. That's what my jerseys have. 502 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 1: I'm kidding. 503 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 3: I'm not buying any jerseys. But this is a thing. 504 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 3: This is a thing. The NFL has got to start 505 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 3: dealing with the fact that the fans think there's a problem, 506 00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 3: and they think that you are liars. And so now 507 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 3: if you're betting on the games, what is it you're 508 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 3: betting on outcomes or what somebody else is rigged? 509 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: Is the outcome? 510 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 3: Don't get angry with me, NFL. I'm just reporting. Seriously, 511 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 3: am I getting sued? What are the odds? Are the 512 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 3: odds high? Porto has got more cash than me, They'll 513 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 3: go after him first. I'm not suggesting they do, but 514 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 3: I'm saying I'd be further down. We're like an accessory 515 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 3: just for bringing up the story this time, kind of like here, 516 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 3: he's not the only one having this conversation. He's not 517 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 3: the only one bothered. The NFL better recognized they're not 518 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 3: escaping this. People think that they're is serious chicanery. A man, 519 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 3: they're bringing receipts. I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz today. 520 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 9: It's completely disgusting. These are Americans that he is calling garbage, 521 00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 9: and we feel like there is an unhealthy obsession that 522 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 9: he has on the Somali community and an unhealthy and 523 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 9: creepy obsession that he has with me. I think it 524 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 9: is also really important for us to remember that this 525 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 9: kind of hateful rhetoric, and this level of dehumanizing can 526 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 9: lead to dangerous actions by people who listen to the president. 527 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 3: It certainly can, just like it led to him being 528 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 3: shot at. So we're clear, Representative Ilhan Omar, you Jew 529 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 3: hating bigot. It absolutely can't. I wah wah wah wah woah, 530 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 3: don't look at me. She's the one who's the Jew 531 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 3: hating bigot. Your problem is, I'm noticing. That's what makes 532 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 3: her conversation so weird. Your ire Representative Omar is not 533 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 3: for those Somalis involved in a massive fraud against the 534 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 3: American people. Your argument is some words Trump said about them. Now, 535 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 3: I can agree, you don't go after a group of 536 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 3: people for what some people in that group did. 537 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 1: I think that's correct. But how dare you think that 538 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 1: he's got some kind. 539 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 3: Of creepy obsession with Somali's in Minnesota when look at 540 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 3: what took place, the criminal activity with people you knew 541 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 3: and you took photos with, and so did Keith Thousand, 542 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 3: the attorney general, and the Governor Tim Walls clearly knew 543 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 3: what was going on, and no one said, boo, you're 544 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 3: angry that we're watching. That's the story Ilhano mar Tony Katz. 545 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 3: That's me Tony Katz today. Great to be with you. 546 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 3: She's a bigot, end of list. She has no place 547 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 3: in Congress, and shame on anybody in Minnesota who votes 548 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 3: for her. 549 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 1: But the story is massive and growing. 550 00:32:55,360 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 3: The scheme where billions, and when I say billions, this 551 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 3: was the reporting from Fox News. 552 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 10: Fraud investigators are finding in Minnesota is growing by the day. 553 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 10: Kelly Leffler, who leads the Small Business Administration, says in 554 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 10: the two days her agency has been investigating the state, 555 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 10: they've uncovered at least a million dollars in PPP fraud 556 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 10: just two days in. Several of the whistleblowers in Minnesota 557 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 10: have also told lawmakers they believe the total amount of 558 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 10: fraud could total up. 559 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 3: To more than eight billion dollars. 560 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 10: Governor Tim Walls, who is up for reelection, is under 561 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 10: fire for all of this happening under his watch. 562 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 3: But yet I don't believe that the people in Minnesota 563 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 3: are going to change their vote because, well, he's a 564 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 3: Democrat and I have to support the Democrats. 565 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 1: Well, this is clearly Trump's fault. 566 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 3: I don't know how it's Trump's fault. We'm gonna have 567 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 3: to blame Trump because it has to be Trump's fault, 568 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 3: because it can't be Tim Wallas's fault. After all, somebody 569 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 3: that maskuline, it can never be their fault. It's not 570 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 3: a bad impression out of mid I think I nailed 571 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 3: it like a lie. I'm pretty proud of myself, right there. 572 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 3: Eight billion dollars possible, the greatest fraud operation, greatest stuff 573 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 3: the tax fair dollars to offer fraud in American history. 574 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 1: That according to Stephen Miller. 575 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 3: And that's the same Stephen Miller that she is referring 576 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,880 Speaker 3: to as a white supremacist. She did that on CBS, 577 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 3: and Margaret Brennan didn't say, Okay, stop that, stop that 578 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,399 Speaker 3: right now. No, no, no, no, no, she allows this 579 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 3: to happen. 580 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 11: I want to ask you what something else that the 581 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 11: architect of the president's immigration policy, Stephen Miller said. On 582 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:43,280 Speaker 11: Thanksgiving Day, he posted, no magic transformation occurs when failed 583 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 11: states cross borders at scale, migrants and their descendants recreate 584 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,840 Speaker 11: the conditions and terrors of the broken homelands. What do 585 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:54,319 Speaker 11: you make of this argument of failure to assimilate and 586 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 11: sort of ruining America? How do you understand this. 587 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 3: I mean, when I think. 588 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 9: Of out Stephen Miller and his white supremacist rhetoric, it 589 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 9: reminds me. Yes, it reminds me of the way the 590 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 9: Nazis described Jewish people in Germany. 591 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,840 Speaker 3: Let's talk about the way you've described Jewish people. She 592 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 3: calls them a white supremacist. Goodbye, you're off the set. 593 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 3: Leave and now now noticing what happened in Minneapolis, well, 594 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 3: you see, that's like the Nazis deflection and gross deflection 595 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 3: and denigration of the Holocaust. People were given an opportunity 596 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:37,719 Speaker 3: to be Americans, some of them born in America, and 597 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 3: they stole and they have to go to jail for it. 598 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:45,279 Speaker 3: And you're right, not every person who is from Somalia 599 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:46,879 Speaker 3: is guilty. 600 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,719 Speaker 1: There's a real question about what you knew, and we 601 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:50,319 Speaker 1: should at the. 602 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 3: Very least investigate you, which I hope is coming and 603 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,359 Speaker 3: that right soon find everything at Tony Katz dot com. 604 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 3: I'll catch you tomorrow. Everyone you begot take care.