1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,160 Speaker 1: You were listening to the Best of the Fan Morning 2 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: show on ninety three five and one oh seven five 3 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: The Fan Plot. 4 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 2: Twist Indianapolis Colts did not cut anybody yesterday. People started 5 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 2: cutting themselves, retirements all over the place. Good morning everyone, 6 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 2: Welcome into Thursday. We got football later on tonight. Mark 7 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 2: dykedon Good Morning, Kevin Bowen, James Boyd. You guys are 8 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 2: both out at Colts camp yesterday. KB, we'll start with you. 9 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 2: Just go ahead and deliver. If people haven't paid attention 10 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 2: or just getting up this morning, delivered the big news 11 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 2: out of Colts camp yesterday. 12 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, Xavid Howard has retired from the NFL. That was 13 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 3: announced yesterday evening. He was not practicing yesterday due to 14 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 3: a personal matter is what it was listed at. And 15 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:47,520 Speaker 3: then I don't know, probably an hour or two later, 16 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 3: the Colts announced that he was going on the reserve 17 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 3: retired list. He released a statement a little bit later 18 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 3: after that. We can get into his statement and everything. So, yeah, 19 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 3: certainly quite the news item. You don't see retires in 20 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 3: season very often in the NFL. Yeah, I think I've 21 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 3: made my stance pretty clear on the level plagu Xavian 22 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 3: Howard had through the first four games. I don't feel 23 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 3: the need to you know, reverse the car over him 24 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 3: here on this Thursday morning. In his statement he mentioned, 25 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 3: you know, being with his family, et cetera, et cetera. 26 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 3: You know, things like that. So certainly now we'll see 27 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 3: how the Colts try to whatever figure out their cornerback depth. 28 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 3: But yeah, I guess big picture of the Colts just 29 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 3: should have vetted this a little bit more and not 30 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 3: handed him a starting job day one when he walked 31 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 3: into the building. But outside of that, you know, predicting 32 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 3: retirements and things like that, probably he's difficult now. 33 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 2: So he's decided to walk away from the game that 34 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 2: I'm sure he loved. He said his family was more important. 35 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 2: We'll get some of that throughout the course of the show. 36 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 2: But he was not the only retirement announcement yesterday. James Boy, 37 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 2: we have more to share today. 38 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, this was just after our show ended. 39 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 5: I believe when the team sent out the announcement that 40 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 5: Shaq Lennard the Maniac will officially retire as a cult 41 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 5: he will return to Lucas Oil Stadium and have a ceremony. 42 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 5: I believe during halftime we'll meet with him as far 43 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 5: as media goes before the game, and so looking forward 44 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 5: to seeing Shaq back here. 45 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 4: I know when things ended. 46 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 5: He was hurt by how he was waived by the team, 47 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 5: but at that point he was not the great player 48 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,959 Speaker 5: that he once was. But you know, I believe Zaire 49 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 5: Franklin was asked yesterday, like, you know, is this one 50 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 5: of those what if type of careers considering the Hall 51 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 5: of Fame trajectory he was on before the injuries, and 52 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 5: Zayer said, no, you know, he gave everything he had 53 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 5: to the game, which I don't doubt for a second, 54 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 5: and we'll hear more from Shaq in a couple of days. 55 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 5: But yeah, that was I think a fitting in for 56 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 5: someone who should be, in my opinion, probably headed towards 57 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 5: the Ring of Honor someday. 58 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 3: They did want to ask you one question on Xavion 59 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 3: Howard in regards to the locker room on Sunday. We 60 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 3: didn't see him at all in the building of course yesterday. 61 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 3: It's not like he's a frequent necessarily locker room you know, 62 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 3: walker around her and chatting every Wednesday to the media. 63 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 3: But you did chat with him correct Sunday after the game, right, yes, 64 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 3: and locker room care to share what that experience was like. 65 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, first of all, he was not trying to talk 66 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 4: to us. 67 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 5: He was trying to get out the door, and we 68 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 5: were like, wait a second, you got to talk man, 69 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 5: Like you had a pretty poor game and we've been 70 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 5: waiting to talk to you, and you're trying to skate. 71 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 5: And so I could tell, you know, the bags were packed, 72 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 5: and you know he's just looking to say anything to 73 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 5: get away from us. And so the question that still 74 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 5: kind of rings in my head when I asked him, 75 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 5: can you assess your performance? And he simply said not 76 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 5: to my ability, And so that kind of stands out 77 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 5: to me as we sit here a couple of days 78 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 5: later and realize, oh, your career is now over. So 79 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 5: I know he gave a lot of statements about his family, 80 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 5: his kids, but I do wonder how much of his 81 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 5: level of play factored into that decision and how abrupt 82 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 5: it was, because again, you can think about your kids 83 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 5: and your future and your family all of that leading 84 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 5: up to signing a contract with the Colts, and so 85 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 5: you came here, you were good. I think after week 86 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 5: one I went to the Instagram page he had posted, 87 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 5: you know this basically video of him after the game, 88 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 5: hugging with all the former Dolphins players, perhaps even vindicated 89 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 5: that he won that game, had a fund of recovery 90 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 5: in that game. But then it went downhill from there 91 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 5: for Xavin Howard. So poor play plus him wanted to 92 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 5: be with his family led to him, I would imagine retiring. 93 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 2: So Zavian Howard has retired. Shack Leonard says he's retired 94 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 2: from the NFL. We'll talk a little bit more about that, Kevin. 95 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 2: I know you and I were in the press box 96 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 2: together back when Shack was just doing his thing, coming 97 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 2: into the league as a rookie and making an instant impact, 98 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 2: and just the range that he had, the hustle and 99 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 2: the big playability, just always punching at footballs, always around 100 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 2: the football, jumping up and grabbing an interception, jumping up 101 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 2: and tapping some football away like those first couple of 102 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:51,359 Speaker 2: years before the injuries set in. It was electric to 103 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 2: watch him play on the football field. 104 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a word that I used all yesterday. And 105 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 3: I don't think we talk about linebackers very much from 106 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 3: an electricity meter, if you will, but he was that. 107 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:04,039 Speaker 3: I mean, how many big plays in the fourth quarters too, 108 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 3: not just like, hey, you're forcing a turnover. I could 109 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 3: think of just moments where the Colts had allowed whatever 110 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 3: a touchdown and two touchdowns in a row, and you're like, gosh, 111 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:13,799 Speaker 3: unless Lenyard makes a play, they're screwed. 112 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 6: Sure enough, fifty three makes a. 113 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 3: Play, the interceptions, the force fumbles obviously, the punch out, 114 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 3: and boy, you think he'll bring some juice to the 115 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 3: old anvil coming up on Sunday. I think he'll be 116 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 3: a little bit more energetic than maybe Edrin James was 117 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 3: in Week one banging the old anvil. There we'll get 118 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 3: to Zaiah Franklin told a great story yesterday in the 119 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 3: locker room about shack in him being roommates on the road. 120 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 3: And Leonard had an eighteen tackle game in his first 121 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:46,359 Speaker 3: ever NFL road game, and let's just say his sleeping 122 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:51,239 Speaker 3: arrangements the previous night not ideal for an NFL football player, 123 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 3: not ideal for anyone for that matter. 124 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 6: So I think this is really cool. 125 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 3: Like the Leonard thing ended awkwardly, it ended suddenly, It 126 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 3: ended mid season. 127 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:04,239 Speaker 6: James. 128 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 3: It was the day of, if I'm not mistaken, the 129 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 3: day of his Thanksgiving meal delivery. I can remember being 130 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,919 Speaker 3: over a near covenant Christian High School, and he stood 131 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 3: in front of those cameras with his you know wife 132 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 3: right there and answered everything about what had just transpired. 133 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 3: And this is a guy that was on a Hall 134 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 3: of Fame pathway with four All Pros in his first 135 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 3: four seasons. So great for the Colts. Great on the Colts, 136 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 3: I should say, great on Check Leonard for this happening. 137 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:37,359 Speaker 3: You know, not everybody can go in the Ring of Honor, 138 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 3: but I think is a really cool way to honor 139 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 3: a player that I think, No, I think you need 140 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 3: some longevity with it. I'm a big believer when you 141 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 3: talk Hall of Fame, when you talk Ring of Honor, 142 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 3: I think there's a longevity component that's needed. But like, 143 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 3: don't get me wrong, a great, great football player, Like 144 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 3: I want to be really clear on that, and I 145 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 3: think this is cool. You get him in front of 146 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 3: the crowd and getting the anvilla and you know, for 147 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 3: four seasons here he was a world of a talent. 148 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 3: It's just unbelievable. So kudos to everybody involved from making 149 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 3: this happen. And in a game that probably lacks a 150 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 3: little bit of juice, Shaq Leonard will provide some of that. 151 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 2: Let me ask you guys this question about Shaq Leonard 152 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 2: and the Ring from twenty fifteen to now ten year period, 153 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 2: namely the defender that has had more of an impact 154 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 2: when he played than Shack Leonard with the cults. 155 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 6: Oh well, probably none. 156 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I just I think that makes I 157 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 2: hear your longevity. But I also, like I said, those 158 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 2: those I know it was only what three three and 159 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 2: a half years, maybe four if you stretch it out, 160 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 2: like he was the guy that was the making the plays. 161 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 2: He was making game deciding plays. He was making impacts 162 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 2: almost every week. 163 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:54,119 Speaker 5: Yeah, I can see both sides of it. I'm always 164 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 5: leaning more towards your peak. How good were you at 165 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 5: your peak? And it was a very short peak, considering 166 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 5: that would imagine he wanted to play longer than that. 167 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 5: But I certainly see us even even in the text 168 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 5: line Shane h says, you know he does not belong 169 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 5: in the Ring of Honor, And I can see both 170 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 5: sides of it. But nevertheless, great player and really a 171 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 5: good person too. He was crazy as far as with 172 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 5: the media. The first guy ever got yelled at in 173 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 5: the NFL was Shaq Leonard. 174 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 3: Yelled at me, you don't bleed blue. At one point, 175 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 3: you don't bleed blue. 176 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 5: I think he told me to keep that same energy 177 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 5: after they beat the Chiefs in twenty twenty two. And 178 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 5: I can say this now, but did you see how 179 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 5: the season went. The energy was not kept the same 180 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 5: for the rest of that group. That was a rough 181 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 5: season for them. But nevertheless, he was someone who will 182 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 5: hold you accountable. He DM me one time on Twitter 183 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 5: to yell at me about something and then he like 184 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 5: apologized later that week about it. So he was a 185 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,959 Speaker 5: very emotional guy. But also I mean I enjoyed it. 186 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 5: I like, he will bring their issue straight to you, 187 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 5: so you certainly didn't have to get That's where you 188 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:03,959 Speaker 5: still with Shack. And to give him credit whenever he's 189 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 5: away from the facility, he wasn't really liked. I think 190 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 5: that was a different side of him because when I 191 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 5: saw him the day he got cut at that Thanksgiving giveaway, 192 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 5: the man you know, after that he just talked to 193 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 5: us like regular people and was asked what was going on. 194 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 6: I would always be struck by that day. 195 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 3: James and this really handled, honestly everything and obviously physically 196 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 3: he was dealing with a lot. I frankly thought he 197 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 3: should have taken the rest of the year off. He 198 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 3: joined the Eagles for a couple of weeks. Unfortunately it 199 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:29,559 Speaker 3: didn't go well there he was at I don't know 200 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 3: if you saw that. He was at the Fever game 201 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 3: the other night, sitting I think it was actually right 202 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 3: behind Obie topping with his girl, So it was you know, 203 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 3: he's not living here, but it was cool to see, 204 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 3: you know him obviously still has a lot of affinity 205 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 3: and if you follow him on Twitter during Colt's games, 206 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 3: he's tweeted during games and he's still very much involved 207 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 3: in it. 208 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 2: Well, it's gonna be fun to talk about him and 209 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 2: always been great in the community. But yeah, a couple 210 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:55,119 Speaker 2: of retirement announcements yesterday out of West fifty sixth. One obviously, 211 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 2: Shack Leonard is really not played for a bit and 212 00:09:57,679 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 2: wants to retire as a cope with the other one, 213 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 2: Xavian Howard is like, yeah, I'm done. 214 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 7: I'm just done. 215 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 2: We were all talking about whether or not he should 216 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 2: benched where you should be playing next thing, you know, 217 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, I'm out. So I always kind of 218 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 2: respect that when. 219 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 4: A guy's like, yeah, I'm out. 220 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 8: Kevin, you want to explain your shirt this morning. That's 221 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 8: a cub shirt you're wearing. Did you lose a bet 222 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 8: that we did not make? What's going on there? I'm 223 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 8: very confused about your wardrobe decision today. 224 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 6: Mark amidst our roller coaster of a relationship. 225 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 3: I call you a friend and I'm here to support 226 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 3: you today. 227 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 8: I don't know if we want your bad juju jumping 228 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 8: over here to the north side. 229 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 3: Here, I am trying to be supportive and are you 230 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 3: not accepting it? Doing a game today where they have 231 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 3: to win to keep their season alive. My Reds today 232 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 3: are hungover. They are off to Cabo. They stink. They've 233 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 3: been dead for a month. The Mets were just deader 234 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 3: than them. The only wildcard team not to advance to 235 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 3: a third game, the Reds. I'm trying to They got 236 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 3: steam rolled once again last night by the Dodgers. So 237 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 3: here I am, Mark, trying to support you. That's purely 238 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 3: what I'm doing, trying to be a good friend. 239 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 8: Trying to think of the word that happened to the Reds. 240 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 8: They didn't win a game in the series, meaning they 241 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 8: got what would even be that word? They got swept 242 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 8: out of the playoffs. I thought it was only a 243 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 8: two game series though I know you're the two games things, 244 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 8: but that seems like that's the sweet my friend. 245 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 3: I was hoping for some relevant maybe Rick Carlisle audio 246 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 3: to describe one career of Tristan Thompson of you know, 247 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,199 Speaker 3: maybe the Reds in the preseason or. 248 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 4: It was, uh, it was fun while it last year 249 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 4: they got you, buddy. 250 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 6: You could probably play that for maybe xavieron Howard's time 251 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 6: with the. 252 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 8: So the Reds get swept out of the playoffs in 253 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 8: two games, so it is possible to have a two 254 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 8: games sweep. Apparently, so Kevin needs to update his uh 255 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 8: over the years shirt thinking he's just gonna hop on 256 00:11:55,480 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 8: the bandwagon a team and I'm supporting a freaking verbal 257 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:03,199 Speaker 8: all season long. Now you want to jump aboard the bandwagon, 258 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 8: we don't want your bad juju. I think you could 259 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 8: go throw on the Dodgers shirt or or something like 260 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:11,959 Speaker 8: the Tigers or the Guardians. Your money's no good here. 261 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 8: You're not allowed on this cub's bandwagon. All of a sudden, 262 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 8: I don't know where that shirt came from. I have 263 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 8: very lot of questions. Or is that a purchased shirt. 264 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 8: Did you borrow it from a friend? 265 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 6: Came from the closet. I think it looks pretty good, 266 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 6: does it not. I don't seen a lot of wrinkles. 267 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 8: I'm just curious. I mean, I don't own any Reds 268 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 8: apparel now. 269 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 6: A lot of things in the closet fit very well 270 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 6: these days for me. 271 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,439 Speaker 2: So all I know is apparently I'm not the only 272 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 2: PCA fan around here. 273 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 8: I was gonna say, you don't like Jeff's PCA, but 274 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:38,839 Speaker 8: you see, I'm not a Cubs fan. 275 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 6: I'm here to support Mark. 276 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 8: Bad juju that is vibing in the studio this early. 277 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 2: And wants nothing to do with any of this. 278 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm just disgusted looking at it. 279 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 6: I mean I'm disgusted with the rets. I mean, think 280 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 6: about it. 281 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 3: Yesterday, you see all these teams backs against their wall. 282 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 6: They deliver. 283 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 3: We get three game threes today, exactly what you want. 284 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 3: The only team not to stretch you to a game 285 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 3: four and outside of their they do it. 286 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 8: Just the start times for the games because the Reds 287 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 8: couldn't show up there. 288 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 3: I am you know Max Bones, you know whine and 289 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 3: I can't sleep, blah blah blah. I'm sitting next to 290 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 3: his bed, watching the Reds game at twelve oh one, thinking, 291 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 3: somehow in the eighth Any and TJ. Friedl strikes out 292 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 3: of the bases loaded. I mean, this is just tying 293 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 3: Run came to play this same thing in the sixth 294 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 3: bases loaded, no outs, just pathetic. 295 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're playing against a team with like a seven 296 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 2: billion dollar payroll. 297 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 3: Well, their bullpen stinks and the Reds couldn't touch it. 298 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 8: Well, I expect you to announce the Cubs lineup later today, 299 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:39,079 Speaker 8: and who's the starting pitcher. I'm assuming you're gonna have 300 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 8: all that knowledge readily available to you a sudden yesterday, 301 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 8: Tony Bankster, is that Kevin Bowen here? 302 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 3: Whoever the padres threw out there, they did a nice 303 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 3: job against. 304 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 2: Your all right, we'll tell you all about that. 305 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 3: Apparently, in a moment, Brian's asking me if I'd like 306 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:58,199 Speaker 3: to join the Guardians train. Brian, we'll see again. I'm 307 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 3: supporting my friend. It's disappointing to hear him not be 308 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 3: accepting of that. 309 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 2: All right, we'll talk all about it throughout the morning. 310 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 9: Here. 311 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:07,559 Speaker 2: Let these two bicker back and forth during the break, 312 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 2: James wisely staying out of it over there. It's the 313 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 2: Fan Morning Show ninety three five and one oh seven 314 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 2: to five of the Fan. Happy to welcome in our 315 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 2: next guest. I used to work with him at Sporting 316 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 2: News Radio. Brian Baldinger does just fantastic work all the time. 317 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 2: He posts his stuff on social media. Is one of 318 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 2: my favorite people to listen to when it comes to 319 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 2: why things work and why they're not working and who's 320 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 2: playing well in the National Football League. And he is 321 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 2: on the Payless Liquors Hotline right now. Good morning, Baldy, 322 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 2: how you been. 323 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 7: Hey, good morning, I'm doing good. 324 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 2: Good to be with you, guys, Always good to be 325 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 2: with you. So I guess first things first, like three 326 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 2: and one, Daniel Jones has played pretty well. 327 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 6: Are these cults for real? Are there is this something 328 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 6: that can sustain. 329 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 7: Well if they can find some corners? I mean, they're 330 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 7: cornerback short right now. That's an issue. It's an issue 331 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 7: around the league. It's not just Indianapolis. It's an issue though. 332 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 7: I mean, obviously Xavin didn't work out and who could 333 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 7: put it two? But he had he you know, you 334 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 7: get a point nine years in his business. You can't 335 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 7: run quite like you want to run. And the way 336 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 7: he once did, and so now he's out and so 337 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 7: that's an issue. But I think they're for real. I 338 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 7: think uh, I think Daniels, you know, I mean, you 339 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 7: could take the interceptions by Cam Curle last week. Ones 340 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 7: at the end of the game, the one is is 341 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 7: a good deep shot. They certainly had their chances to 342 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 7: win the game. A couple of bone headed plays by 343 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 7: you know, some guys, But uh, I think they're for real. 344 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 7: I mean, that was a that's a good Rams team. 345 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 7: You're gonna see him tonight. They're very well coached. They've 346 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 7: got some star power on that team, a lot of 347 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 7: good young players and quarterback that's you know, still rolling 348 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 7: really strong. So yeah, I think the CULTU are for 349 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 7: real and Jacksonville's for real. And we'll see if Houston 350 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 7: could come out of the crypt right now. But I 351 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 7: think they're off to a good start. 352 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 3: Paudy, I know you were on the call, and thank 353 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 3: you for the time here on this Thursday morning. I 354 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 3: know you're on the call on Sunday and you saw 355 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 3: Daniel Jones and you know you hit on a little 356 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 3: bit right there. But what you've observed from Afar, I 357 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 3: guess the first three weeks and then in person on Sunday, 358 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 3: what do you make of what Daniel Jones and Change 359 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 3: Sichin have done through the first four weeks. 360 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 7: Well, he knows where he wants to go with the ball, 361 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 7: and he's very very certain about where he's going, and 362 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 7: he's very good at getting it there. You know, they 363 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 7: obviously could have won that game easily except for two 364 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 7: bad plays. But regardless of the offense makes a lot 365 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 7: of sensors. Ty Warren has made a big difference in 366 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 7: that offense. The offensive line has played really well. Jonathan 367 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 7: Taylor is on his game. I like the design, I 368 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 7: like the way getting guys open and a little creativity 369 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 7: to some of it. But I feel like Dangle Jones 370 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 7: is playing the best football he's ever played, and that 371 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 7: includes a year that they went to the playoffs. But 372 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 7: he's an elite athlete. He always was, you know, coming 373 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 7: out of Charlotte, coming out of the Duke, and he 374 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 7: still has all that ability, his ability to scramble to 375 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 7: extend plays, all that is there. But he's I think 376 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 7: he really knows what he's looking at here Andy, and 377 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 7: he can put the ball where he wants to put it, 378 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 7: you know, in tight spots, and it's been doing it 379 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 7: for the first month of the season. I don't think 380 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 7: that's going to change. 381 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:11,479 Speaker 5: Wealdy, Are you surprised at all with how well he's 382 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 5: hit the ground here in Indianapolis just given the resume 383 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 5: with the Giants. 384 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, look, there's not a whole lot of 385 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 7: his guys that went to Duke that play played in 386 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 7: the NFL, so we kind of know each other and 387 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,880 Speaker 7: pay attention. But I you know, I mean, I've always 388 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 7: pulled for the guy. He's always been a straight shooter 389 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 7: with me, and you know, we've always had a pretty 390 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 7: good relationship from afar, you know. But I you know, 391 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 7: I've been critical of Daniel before, Yeah, because I think 392 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:41,360 Speaker 7: there was moments where, you know, he really was unsure 393 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 7: about what he was doing and it showed up on film. 394 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 7: But he's very very sure about what he's doing. So 395 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 7: that's that's the time that him and and uh, you know, 396 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 7: Shane are really getting along quite well. And and so 397 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 7: I think the town around him is as good as 398 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 7: it's ever been. And that includes what he had Saquan 399 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 7: and you know, some good play in New York, but 400 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 7: the talent round him is really good and so you know, 401 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 7: I think it now with Piersack will really help. But regardless, 402 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 7: it's the best I've seen him play. And that's just 403 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 7: just a short sample, it's one month. But he's very 404 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 7: very he's very confident about what he's doing. 405 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 4: Again. 406 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 5: Brian Baldinger joining us here on the Payofslickers Hotline, NFL Network, 407 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 5: Fox Sports, all of the above. Brian, when you look 408 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 5: at the way Tyler Warren has changed this offense, what 409 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 5: stands out to you and what do you like about 410 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 5: just the greediness of his blocking and things of that 411 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 5: nature that perhaps maybe go unnoticed as opposed to all 412 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 5: the catches in yards. 413 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 7: Well, you said it, I mean the gritties. I did 414 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 7: not know ty Warren. So I went to the pro 415 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 7: day in Penn State this year and I got a 416 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 7: chance to interview him and just watch him go to work. 417 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 7: I mean, the guy is he said, like, for example, 418 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 7: this is ty Warn. We wanted to get him for 419 00:18:57,760 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 7: the NFL networking an interview and he goes, Baldy, I'll 420 00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 7: do it, but wait till everybody gets done. Like he 421 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 7: wanted to support all of his teammates at Penn State 422 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 7: and all the things they were doing and then he 423 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 7: would give us a few minutes. That kind of tells 424 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 7: you a little bit. He's all about team, but he's 425 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 7: just so versatile. He lines up at receiver, he lines 426 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,120 Speaker 7: up in the backfield, they line up in the backfield 427 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 7: and they you know, they drive him through the line 428 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 7: and you know, link him out the back against Denver 429 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 7: for forty yards. He catches everything. He's good after to catch, 430 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 7: you know, on the Jonathan Taylor touchdown run that got 431 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 7: called back, you know, he's the lead blocker on the 432 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:35,439 Speaker 7: play and he gets it done. He's not you know, 433 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 7: he's not John Mackey. He's not knocking guys on their back. 434 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,120 Speaker 7: He's not ground. But I think he's going to get 435 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 7: her at it and he's he's he certainly makes a difference, 436 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 7: but you know, just just the versatility of what he 437 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 7: can do and the dependability and there's nothing like having 438 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 7: a six foot six monster in the middle of the 439 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 7: field to throw it to. And I think every quarterback 440 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 7: would welcome that. 441 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 6: Think you know that voice. 442 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 3: Brian Baldinger with us here on the Payloss Slickers Hotline 443 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 3: on this Thursday morning, and Baldy, the social media videos 444 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 3: you do and breaking down some film are electric every 445 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 3: single week. I am maybe a little biased. Some of 446 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:11,880 Speaker 3: my favorites are when you get going on a good 447 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 3: Quintin Nelson pancaker too. Yeah, where does that rank for 448 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 3: you good Quintin Nelson film breakdown in terms of your energy? 449 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:21,919 Speaker 7: He would have been there this week because he had 450 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 7: a great pancake on. I believe it was Braydon Fisk 451 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 7: on Jonathan Taylor's touchdown runn I get called back, but 452 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,880 Speaker 7: he had a great block there. Yeah. I think, Look, 453 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 7: he's he's had to play with a new left tackle, 454 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 7: he's guy had a new center in Bordolini. It doesn't 455 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 7: really matter. I mean he's still and I talked him 456 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 7: a little bit more the game on Sunday. I feel 457 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 7: like right now he's probably as healthy as he's been 458 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 7: in the while, and it does show like his power 459 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 7: is still there. His attention to detail is still there. 460 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 7: But you know, good pancake from Quinton is right there 461 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 7: at the top of my not just the top of 462 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 7: the videos that I do every week. It's it makes 463 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 7: my life better when I get to watch that, you know, 464 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 7: like I just hit in a better moods. 465 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 2: Nothing like watching a human road greater. Brian I'm just curious, 466 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 2: what are you saying from defensively the Cults under lou 467 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 2: an Aroma, what's been different? 468 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 7: Well, I think they've been better, you know. I know 469 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 7: Kyron had a couple of good runs last week, but 470 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,360 Speaker 7: I think they've been better against the run. The run 471 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 7: fits I look look better. I feel like I feel 472 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 7: like he's got just a monster and deforce Buckner, you know, 473 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 7: and he hadn't had a really really great three sneak 474 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 7: in a while. But I just feel like the run 475 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 7: fits will be better and Lou. I talked to Lou. 476 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 7: I mean, he lives right down the block for me 477 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 7: in Florida, you know, whenever he's home. But you know, 478 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 7: I talked to him on the field before the game, 479 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 7: and I think he was really nervous about Pukafont, to 480 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,640 Speaker 7: be honest with you, but uh, you know, I think 481 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 7: that so just gonna be very sound. No, the quarterback 482 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 7: situation is a problem for any coordinator. I feel like 483 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,199 Speaker 7: they're gonna be really sound about what they're doing and 484 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,439 Speaker 7: how they go about it. He's a great coach and 485 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:15,880 Speaker 7: he's a he's an excellent play caller. He gets He's 486 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 7: had some big moments in big games where his the 487 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 7: pressures that he's using, or how he's attacking third downs, 488 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 7: it's it's unique. He has a unique way of attacking offenses. 489 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 7: And I thought for most of the part on Sunday 490 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 7: up until the at well, you know, touchdown, I thought 491 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 7: he did a good job of even though Puuk had 492 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 7: a big game of really containing that offense, that didn't 493 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 7: really explode him. 494 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:43,919 Speaker 10: Yep, we lost him. 495 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 7: And I think I think Zayer Franklin's gonna have another 496 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 7: monster year. Like his linebackers will make a lot of tackles, 497 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 7: so he's off to a good start. He likes it, 498 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 7: he likes the new changes. I talked to Zaira before 499 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 7: the game, but he's you know, he's a unique player 500 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 7: in that he can find the football anywhere on the 501 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 7: field and then do something about it. So I think 502 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 7: this thing is I think they found the right guy. 503 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,400 Speaker 7: I thought they were I don't know. I thought they 504 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 7: were very vanilla, you know, the guss and some of 505 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:11,679 Speaker 7: the things that they were doing. I think this is 506 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 7: going to be a little bit more creative. 507 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 5: So, Baldy, the last one I have for you, and 508 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 5: this is kind of serious, but not very serious. 509 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 4: Well, what's the set up when you're breaking down film. 510 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 5: Because when I see that clicker going and you're it 511 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:25,360 Speaker 5: looks like you're in a cave somewhere. 512 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 4: It's dark, and all I see is a screen. 513 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 5: So can you break us or give us a breakdown 514 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 5: of your setup when you're breaking down film? 515 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 7: Well, I mean at the NFL Films, I just called 516 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:39,199 Speaker 7: the bubble. I might talk to the people in the 517 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,880 Speaker 7: in the dining hall that are making lunch and breakfast 518 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 7: and dinner, but other than that, it's it's just me 519 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 7: and the projector and the clicker. That's it. I don't 520 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 7: answer the phone. I just tweet things out, you know, 521 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 7: or put things on social media as I see fit. 522 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 7: And I'm literally there for fifteen hours every Monday and Tuesday, 523 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 7: just try to I figure, if I'm entertaining myself, then 524 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 7: I'm going to entertain the other people that are watching, 525 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 7: whether it's players or guys like yourself, or you know, 526 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 7: some some widow in Berlin, Germany. Maybe who knows, but uh, 527 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 7: you know, I'm just I'm just trying to entertain myself 528 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:19,640 Speaker 7: and and things that catch my eye. I figure if 529 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 7: it catches my eye, maybe it will do the same 530 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,120 Speaker 7: to whatever audience is out to and. 531 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 3: If you're having a bad day, you dial up number 532 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 3: fifty six in the blue and white. 533 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 2: There you go. 534 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I don't have many bad days, but 535 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 7: if I'm you know, having a rough moment, like I 536 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,919 Speaker 7: I don't know how this social media thing works, or 537 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 7: you know, something's got downloading the way it's supposed to, 538 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 7: and I get frustrated. You know, I'll just put a 539 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 7: little big cue on them. And I like it. 540 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 4: Simple man, reoklick. 541 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 6: Where we talking about that last thing? 542 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 2: For me too? Like, can we give some flowers to 543 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor because even when he gets into the open, 544 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 2: open field, oftentimes that guy at the second level is 545 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,479 Speaker 2: the first guy to greet him is not making the tackle. 546 00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 2: He's been unbelievable. 547 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 7: Yeah, he has been great, man. He's uh, you know, 548 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,679 Speaker 7: you know he's from New Jersey's a Jersey guy live 549 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 7: in Jersey too, and uh, you know he's from Salem, 550 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,439 Speaker 7: New Jersey. And there's nothing going on in Sale, New Jersey. 551 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 7: Nothing and uh and that was by design. His dad. 552 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 7: I don't know if you know his dad. His dad's 553 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 7: a character. His dad's a bodybuilder. He's got the biggest 554 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 7: set of pipes on any man I've seen since Arnold Schwarzenegger. Maybe, 555 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 7: but his dad played for the Jersey Generals, and his 556 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 7: dad evidently, I mean, is his dad telling me this 557 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 7: that you know, he was having too much fun out 558 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 7: there while he played, and it probably cut his career short. 559 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 7: And he didn't want that to happen to his son 560 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 7: growing up. So he purposely moved to like just the 561 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 7: deadest spot in all of New Jerseys where there's no distractions. 562 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 7: And I just feel he's raised the right way. He's 563 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 7: a great kid. He's also a great star. He's healthy, 564 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 7: the line's playing good. You know, he's breaking fifty yard 565 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 7: runs and some of them get called back, but you 566 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 7: know he's he's all this game right now. He'll compete, 567 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 7: you know, for that rushing title again this year. 568 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 2: A lot of fun. Good to catch up with you again, buddy. 569 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 2: Stay tuned and stay stay on top of all that film. 570 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 2: It's amazing to watch. I love it every day. Keep 571 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:12,400 Speaker 2: it going. 572 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 7: I appreciate it, man. 573 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 9: Ah. 574 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 2: We love basketball. It's a basketball state. We can talk 575 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 2: about basketball three sixty five and love every single moment 576 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,479 Speaker 2: of it. And that's what we're gonna do right now. 577 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 2: On the Fan Morning Show, Kevin Bowen, James Boyd, Mark 578 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 2: Dyton over there making it all happen. I'm jeff Rickard 579 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 2: and Tony East who talks basketball, fever, pacers, you name it. 580 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 2: He's got insight and he joins us now on the 581 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 2: Fan Morning Show and the Payless Lockers Hotline, and you're 582 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 2: coming with stories and everything else today, Tony, how you doing? 583 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:43,880 Speaker 7: Oh great? 584 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:44,679 Speaker 5: How are you guys? 585 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 11: I'm glad I'm coming through. 586 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 10: Okay. 587 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 11: I just dropped my phone and water about thirty seconds 588 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 11: before this phone call, so I'm glad you can hear 589 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 11: me in My phone still works. 590 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,120 Speaker 4: So what kind of water are we talking here? Tony? 591 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 4: You're a journalist, give us some details. 592 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,399 Speaker 11: What kind of water? Water from my kitchen sink that 593 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 11: I was trying to mix with with medicine for the morning. 594 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 11: And I just apparently forgot how my hands working. 595 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 5: Thought you were talking to us from the old stool 596 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 5: there for a seconds. 597 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 8: Kevin has reached in the porta potty not too long ago. 598 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 8: We have to ask I will to clear it. 599 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 11: If I dropped my phone in the toilet. I will 600 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 11: tell you straight up, I dropped my phone in the toilet. 601 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 6: That did not have a man of integrity. 602 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 3: Tony's Okay, Tony, your schedule on Tuesday of this week, 603 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 3: can you walk us through your I guess it was probably, 604 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 3: I don't know. Was it about a thirty six hour period? 605 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 3: It will walk us through PACER practice, flight time to Vegas, 606 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 3: flight back from Vegas, and you're back at PACER practice yesterday? 607 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 7: It was only like, well, I guess. 608 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,400 Speaker 11: If you count both practices, about a twenty four hour experience. 609 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 11: They practice at twelve thirty Tuesday is their first one, 610 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 11: so I wanted to be there. Left a little early 611 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 11: because my flight was at two thirty. Flew through Dallas 612 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 11: to Vegas. I landed about thirty minutes before the game, 613 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 11: so barely made it on time Game five of Aces Fever, 614 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,120 Speaker 11: and then an eleven thirty pm Radye threw Atlanta back 615 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 11: here that I got home at about ten ish, and 616 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 11: then they practice at twelfth pages practice at twelve thirty. 617 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 6: Unbelievable. That is wild to me. Were you scheduled to 618 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 6: land thirty minutes before tip? Or was that a delay? 619 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:24,959 Speaker 9: No, the slight delay. 620 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 11: Unfortunately, I was trying to get there like four forty 621 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 11: five I think was the original time you gained so 622 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 11: much time with time changes in the. 623 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 7: Air that it's possible to do this right. But you 624 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 7: can work as well. If you're playing is stuck on 625 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 7: the ground. 626 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 6: You are insane. Brother, God, I don't think I don't 627 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 6: think you deserve much credit at your job. 628 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 7: Do your job. 629 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 6: You did your job, unbelievable. 630 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 10: I agree with that. Chance. 631 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 11: The thing is, I can sleep so easily on planes 632 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 11: that like it's I get that, it's like not comfortable, 633 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 11: but it worked well because of that. 634 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 5: See, I told you it's a skill on you, guys. Guys 635 00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 5: this all the time. 636 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 6: You guys got a special good when you lived. 637 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 4: The NBA life like Tony, you got to be able 638 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 4: to see all. 639 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 7: Yeah. 640 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 6: I guess it's probably bred into you. 641 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 3: Honestly, after a few games, Tony's latest Stadianna fever fought 642 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 3: to the end and they did it together. Next tube 643 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 3: dot com where you can find that great, great stuff 644 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 3: from Tony. I do want to ask you about Tuesday Night, 645 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 3: just briefly. It was eerie watching. 646 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 6: It on TV. 647 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 3: And I'm talking about the Kelsey Mitchell scene, the towels 648 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 3: over her, the stretcher out. I'm not gonna lie for 649 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 3: a brief second there, I thought, is this like a 650 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 3: DeMar Hamlin situation? Like what what's going on? They went 651 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 3: to commercial, which probably didn't help the situation of like 652 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 3: the unknown, and if I remember correctly that at the 653 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 3: ESPN went to commercial pretty you know, quickly right after 654 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 3: the Hamlin thing, once they knew something was super serious. 655 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 3: They kind of got their ducks in order. What was 656 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 3: it like in arena? 657 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's uh. 658 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 11: It was really bizarre because she was like fine, you 659 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 11: know the play that had happened. She was involved kind 660 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 11: of defending the action, and Ahiah Boston committed. 661 00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 10: Her fifth foul. 662 00:29:58,040 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 11: So I wasn't even looking at Kelsey Mitchell, but she 663 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 11: was like walking away from the play. And then all 664 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 11: of a sudden, someone's like, who is that? 665 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 7: And I thought, who's that? 666 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 11: What on the ground what? And there's Kelsey Mitchell surrounded 667 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 11: by towels. I didn't even know who the player was 668 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 11: for much of the exchange, and so it was really 669 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 11: kind of alarming and scary for a second because you 670 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 11: don't know how that happens. And then you only get 671 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 11: to see one replay and she just kind of has 672 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 11: her leg give out, like to me the I don't 673 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 11: know if you guys remember this act, Like I kind 674 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 11: of thought of Victor Oladipo when he just blew his 675 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 11: leg out with his really long injury, and I said, 676 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 11: oh man, is this a quad? Is this whatever? But 677 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 11: a very scary moment when that happened. The towels are 678 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 11: always alarming, and of course the stretcher Leah Bostin's crying 679 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 11: like in Arena. It was just so shocking because I 680 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 11: had no idea what happened, Like there was no contact 681 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 11: on the play, she wasn't running and something gave out. 682 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 11: It just happened and a raft had to kind of 683 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 11: guide her to the ground. As we've seen today, it's 684 00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 11: like maybe a good scenario situation, but also so maybe not, 685 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 11: because what gets you to the issue that she had 686 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 11: sometimes can be like also alarming or maybe a sign of. 687 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 7: An issue with your kidneys. 688 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 11: But at least as of right now, if it's something 689 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 11: like not super scary, maybe she could still keep playing 690 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 11: pretty soon. So it's scary and alarming when it happens. 691 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I don't know if anybody caught this. For 692 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 2: as much grief as we've been given WNBA officials, and 693 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 2: a lot of it earned this year. The official that 694 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 2: was standing next to Kelsey, she kind of reached over 695 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 2: and grabbed his arm. He immediately knew something was wrong. 696 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 2: I give him a lot of credit because he very 697 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 2: carefully and gently kind of helped her lay down on 698 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 2: the ground. I don't know if you saw that, Tony, 699 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 2: but I thought, you know, forget being a referee and 700 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 2: a basketball player, he was just a human being at that. 701 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 4: Point in time. 702 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 11: Yeah, absolutely, you know, and I got you got to 703 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 11: give him credit to like have the wherewithals to know 704 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 11: that a player is saying help specifically to you, right 705 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 11: and actually be involved in that moment. And thankfully the 706 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 11: game was kind of at a stut or slowed down point, 707 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 11: but yeah, that was just a scary, alarming sequence that. 708 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 11: And then if you're a teammate, you know, you don't 709 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 11: know what happened. The towels are out, like very serially 710 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 11: similar to the pacers in that you know, like you 711 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 11: got to keep playing. It's a huge game, but you 712 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 11: just saw what happened to your teammate, and there muscles 713 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 11: like you got to find a way to fight through 714 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 11: it somehow. And I think that was hard for everybody 715 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 11: to do, even if just for a few moments because 716 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 11: they got back into the game. Obviously they got it 717 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 11: to overtime, but you know, if you have a bad 718 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 11: two minutes in a game like that, that's just it 719 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 11: was really crushing and it was sad for everybody. So 720 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 11: just a huge bummer. And then Arena, it was even 721 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 11: scarier because we had no idea what happened. 722 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 7: Or how it happened. 723 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, So I believe Kelsey came online yesterday and revealed 724 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 5: that she had and I hope I say this correctly. 725 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 5: Rob dom ulosis robb domialysis robbed domilis is a dinosaur. 726 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 5: I mean, it sounds it pretty rough, and it says 727 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 5: it's a condition when muscle cells break down and release 728 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 5: a protein into the bloodstream, which can be very bad 729 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 5: for like your kidney and the rest of your body. 730 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 5: And so just to give some addic context, they're like, yeah, 731 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 5: it was severe cramping, but it wasn't just cramps, Like 732 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 5: it wasn't just okay, go get some water and you'll 733 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 5: be fine, because I was thinking, oh, okay, like did 734 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 5: she not drink enough fluids throughout the day. It was 735 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 5: the you know, the vegas heat getting to. 736 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 4: Her or something like that. 737 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 5: But it was obviously more than that, and so she 738 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 5: basically said she played until the wheels fell off, Tony. 739 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 5: So to have that diagnosis, to have it get treated, 740 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 5: and to have her a season kind of end like that. 741 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 5: What'd you think of post the injury? How the team 742 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 5: rally to push that game into overtime? 743 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 7: Yeah? 744 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 11: I got a kick out of her saying that wheel 745 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 11: till the wheels fall off part. But yeah, you know, 746 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 11: credit to them for I mean, that was the story 747 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 11: of their whole season, right. They would get to a 748 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 11: situation where it's like there's no way they can keep winning, right, 749 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 11: and then they would and then that game to lose 750 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 11: her and need to rely on Shan Paddy and Honesty 751 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 11: Sims to the extent they did, and then losely of 752 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 11: Boston due to foul trouble and have to rely on 753 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 11: Free Turner and Mikhaela Simpson to the extent they did. 754 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 11: I'm gonna I don't know about you, guys. 755 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 7: I thought it was over right. 756 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 11: I thought I was like, Oh, there's no way that 757 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 11: they can do it with this crew available, But like, 758 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 11: who am I to say that? 759 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 7: I watched the Fever all year? 760 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 11: Like the way they were able to battle back was remarkable. 761 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 11: They had the ball in a tie game in overtime 762 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,320 Speaker 11: at one point, like they could have taken the lead, 763 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 11: what that crew they had available, It was just it 764 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 11: was so impressive that they could do this. It was 765 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 11: such a testament to what Stephanie White's been able to do. 766 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 11: And you know, obviously to bumbed that they lost in 767 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 11: this in the way that they did and in that setting, 768 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,759 Speaker 11: but it was just so impressive that they were able 769 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 11: to keep fighting like that. 770 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,879 Speaker 2: Tony, thanks as always for stopping by. We'll be talking 771 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,760 Speaker 2: to you quite a bit as the PACER season rolls 772 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,319 Speaker 2: out and starts up. And we were glad you're home 773 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 2: safe and sound after all that travel and get some 774 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 2: rest now. 775 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 3: Okay, Rice, and thank you full of rice, Tony for 776 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 3: the phone, all right, and a hair drug. 777 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 2: Never have to wait very long for an NFL game 778 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 2: After a Monday night contest. We are a couple of 779 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 2: Monday night contests this past week. We turn our attention 780 00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 2: out of Thursday night football for the Rams and the 781 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,360 Speaker 2: Niner comes your way tonight. 782 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,799 Speaker 6: I'm not sure I call what we saw Monday night football. 783 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 10: I don't know. 784 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,719 Speaker 2: Twenty eight three will take it at least there's a win. 785 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 2: Was not a not a fun game to watch, There's 786 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 2: no question, I. 787 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 6: Say, Floral, I don't know if Juds Dolphins was much better. 788 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. But we're getting ready now for Colts 789 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 2: and Raiders coming up on Sunday afternoon. It's NFL seemingly 790 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 2: all the time, every day now, and we are happy 791 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 2: to be joined by Joel a Ericson, who covers the 792 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 2: Colts for the Indie Star and as also, as Mark 793 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,439 Speaker 2: was talking to him during the break, there might be 794 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 2: Brewers fan number one. You might be number one on 795 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 2: that fan list right there, number one in Indiana. 796 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,879 Speaker 3: I think, Joel, reveal what you sent me the other 797 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 3: day about your Brewers fandom. 798 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,719 Speaker 12: Yeah, you're a sick home the Milwaukee Journal setting I'll 799 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 12: put out a sporkle quiz and they said, can you 800 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,759 Speaker 12: name all fifty five people who have played for the 801 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 12: Brewers this season? 802 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 10: And I got fifty four? 803 00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 7: Right? 804 00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 9: Whoo? 805 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 3: I mean, Joel, you strike me. You strike me as 806 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 3: a wonderful husband, a wonderful father. But damn man, your 807 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 3: wife's got to look in the mirror right now. 808 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:09,399 Speaker 6: Unbelievable. 809 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 13: Fifty four fifty five? 810 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 4: Were you mad? You didn't get to one. 811 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,400 Speaker 10: Yeah, oh yeah, I was curious Drew Drew Avins. I 812 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 10: remember when he hit. I remember the fact by he 813 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 10: hitting the one game he played see Minico. 814 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:21,880 Speaker 7: Are you? 815 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:23,560 Speaker 2: Are you also like me? You still look at the 816 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:24,439 Speaker 2: box scores every day? 817 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 10: I don't. 818 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:30,360 Speaker 9: I mean yes, but I watched so many games that, like, 819 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:31,880 Speaker 9: I kind of know the box scores. 820 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 3: For being honest, I've sat behind Joel where he has 821 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,799 Speaker 3: done the score book during a day game. You know 822 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,239 Speaker 3: he has he has the score book and he just 823 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 3: sits there in his lap like he's, you know, seventy 824 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 3: four years old at Wrigley on the day game, Joel, 825 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 3: Little real quick, Joel. 826 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 8: If your team were to get eliminated in the playoffs, 827 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,279 Speaker 8: are you wearing another team's shirt the next day and 828 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 8: just like riding with them to the World Series. 829 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 6: Well, now you're putting words in my mouth. I didn't 830 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 6: say I'm riding with anyone. 831 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 8: You're wearing a Joe Madden Cub shirt. List morning, Joel. 832 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,240 Speaker 3: Again, you strike me as a wonderful husband, wonderful father. 833 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 6: I consider you a friend. I am literally supporting my 834 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 6: friend Mark Dyton today. 835 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 3: I am trying to be a good friend, I would 836 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:15,399 Speaker 3: imagine today's stressful. You just got shut out. You had 837 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,920 Speaker 3: a chance to move on, maybe face a team of 838 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 3: note to Joel a Ericson in the next round, and 839 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:26,320 Speaker 3: instead you have to face elimination today. So I would 840 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,279 Speaker 3: consider today a stressful time to be a fan. And 841 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,480 Speaker 3: so I am simply supporting Mark Dyton with a try 842 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:38,320 Speaker 3: not to suck Joe Madden glasses shirt and considering Kevin's 843 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 3: track record of sports teams in the Year of Our 844 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 3: Lord twenty twenty five, with Notre Ding getting smoked in 845 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:48,920 Speaker 3: the National Championship, the yeah, that was not necessarily love 846 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,160 Speaker 3: for your Cubs to be one of those standing here. 847 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,720 Speaker 8: We've got we've got speedo bets that have fallen flat 848 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,200 Speaker 8: because every time Kevin puts his h puts chips in 849 00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 8: on a team, they fall flat. So I'm a bit 850 00:37:58,719 --> 00:37:59,360 Speaker 8: nervous today. 851 00:37:59,480 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 6: Shut the hell. 852 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 9: This this is a SE's that's the that's the elimination 853 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:09,319 Speaker 9: game baseball playoff nerves coming out of Mark dykeen right theres. 854 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:09,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's so true. 855 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 3: I know I'm not going to you know what, I'll 856 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:12,479 Speaker 3: be the bigger man Joel. 857 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,280 Speaker 6: I'm not gonna hold him to this standard. 858 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,440 Speaker 3: On October second, we'll just move on. 859 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:18,879 Speaker 4: Did you clone me or something? 860 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:20,719 Speaker 5: I'm like, this is totally what I would do, But man, 861 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 5: you are on troll a thousand right now. 862 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 2: Essentially give Mark a pass by saying, hey, do you 863 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 2: know what he's going through today? 864 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,440 Speaker 10: Ye, baseball playoffs? 865 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:32,719 Speaker 7: For hell? 866 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 6: I know, I trust me. There's part of me it's 867 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,480 Speaker 6: glad it's over. I never got to the stressful period. 868 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:38,879 Speaker 6: It was like, well, if that. 869 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 3: Runner gets on and then that batter does this, and 870 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,319 Speaker 3: then maybe you can cut the deficit to three. 871 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,560 Speaker 6: And you know, I never got to the stress. 872 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,960 Speaker 8: Well, and if the Cubs do lose, Joel a couple 873 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:49,759 Speaker 8: of training camps ago. I think Kevin wore one of 874 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 8: your Brewer shirts. He's gonna need that again because he's 875 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 8: gonna jump on the Brewers bandwagon. 876 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:56,320 Speaker 6: I'm a little nervous if I could fit in that. 877 00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:57,640 Speaker 10: I want to. 878 00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 2: Nickname him Bernie for the for the remainder of the playoffs. 879 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 6: That that happened, I was quite distressful a day for 880 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:04,320 Speaker 6: me racking that shirt. Joel A. 881 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,160 Speaker 3: Rickson from the Star went to see on the Payless 882 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:07,160 Speaker 3: Slickers hot line. 883 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 6: I believe it's upcoming. We tweeted the or we at 884 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 6: tease a. 885 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,839 Speaker 3: Little bit earlier, Joel uh coming to any star here 886 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 3: in the next day or so? Could you let our 887 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,400 Speaker 3: audience in on where you consume the first half of 888 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:24,920 Speaker 3: Colts Rams on Sunday. Not because beer, it wasn't. 889 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:26,360 Speaker 10: It wasn't Colts Rams. 890 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:26,799 Speaker 7: I was. 891 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:28,520 Speaker 10: I was at so far for all of Colts Rams, 892 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 10: but the. 893 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:32,879 Speaker 9: Early games, early games, sorry, the early games. I spent 894 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 9: the early games at Fox Studios in Los Angeles with 895 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 9: Mike Pereira, who I think most fans know as the guy. 896 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,040 Speaker 10: Who explains what the refs are. 897 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,560 Speaker 9: Thinking and sometimes tells us when they're wrong. Uh In 898 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 9: in the command center at Fox Studios. It was pretty cool. 899 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:52,839 Speaker 9: It was very very cool. Also, there's way more going 900 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:54,720 Speaker 9: on there than I ever realized. 901 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:56,680 Speaker 4: Can you elaborate? 902 00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:01,520 Speaker 9: You look, so you see Perera come on, you know, 903 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 9: once or twice a game. 904 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:04,480 Speaker 10: Maybe I know he was on in the Colts game 905 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,360 Speaker 10: the other day. He is. 906 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:11,000 Speaker 9: They see every call in every game. Somehow, there's four 907 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:15,000 Speaker 9: guys in the command center. They are all kind of 908 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,799 Speaker 9: going looking at all these different screens. There's one specifically 909 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:19,760 Speaker 9: for Perira. 910 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:22,759 Speaker 10: That they put big calls on. 911 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:26,320 Speaker 9: But then there's also like eight screens to the sides 912 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,640 Speaker 9: of that where they can see the other games, and 913 00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:30,480 Speaker 9: you would think they would miss stuff. They don't miss 914 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,640 Speaker 9: anything they see like holds in false starts being a 915 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,560 Speaker 9: tiny screen and you're not paying attention to it. 916 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,840 Speaker 10: And then the other thing I think. 917 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 9: That sticks out is just a lot of what Perra does, 918 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,719 Speaker 9: more of what Para does than coming on screen and 919 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:49,239 Speaker 9: telling us what happens, is he will reach forward and 920 00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,279 Speaker 9: press a little button that goes to the producer to 921 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:55,360 Speaker 9: whichever city and just kind of say what the call is, Like, 922 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,560 Speaker 9: you know, hey, that's a hook and hold right there. 923 00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,800 Speaker 9: That's why they called that passage year into that hold. 924 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,680 Speaker 9: And then when when you're watching a game and you 925 00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:08,000 Speaker 9: hear a broadcaster say give you an explanation and a rule, 926 00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,680 Speaker 9: a lot of times that's Pereira talking through the producer. 927 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,320 Speaker 9: So it's it's way more. 928 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:15,319 Speaker 10: Involved than I ever thought. 929 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,120 Speaker 9: I had a headset on for a little while listing 930 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 9: to all the producers coming to the year. 931 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:20,920 Speaker 10: I don't know how you do that without going crazy. 932 00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:23,680 Speaker 10: It was really cool. It was a really really neat 933 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 10: thing to do. 934 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 2: So how many how many people are actually in that 935 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,359 Speaker 2: room and what are the discussions like when they are 936 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,360 Speaker 2: kind of picking over a call there. 937 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,799 Speaker 10: Well, it's it's it's really fast. That's the first of all, 938 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 10: there's four of them. 939 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:41,600 Speaker 9: There's Parreira, there's their rules analyst, and then there's two producers, 940 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,000 Speaker 9: and it has to be really fast. 941 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,759 Speaker 10: Like one of the calls he was doing the uh 942 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:47,680 Speaker 10: he was. 943 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,640 Speaker 9: Serving as the rules analyst for the europe game and 944 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,400 Speaker 9: it was right after I walked in and I timed 945 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 9: it on my recorder. He the call. The play happened 946 00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,879 Speaker 9: in a minute and fifty six seconds later. Parreira has 947 00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,680 Speaker 9: to be on knowing exactly what he thinks about the 948 00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:06,160 Speaker 9: call without having, you know, the sixteen camera angles that 949 00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,040 Speaker 9: they have in New York, they only have the live 950 00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:11,120 Speaker 9: broadcast angle, so a lot of it is really fast 951 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,920 Speaker 9: where they're like one guy is suggesting, hey, did he 952 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:15,480 Speaker 9: get his feet in? 953 00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:16,880 Speaker 10: And the other guy is saying did he bobble it? 954 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:18,360 Speaker 10: And then you have them. 955 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,799 Speaker 9: Pereira answering that stuff along with the other rules an 956 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,000 Speaker 9: list and then they're suggesting more stuff and then they're going, okay, 957 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:24,080 Speaker 9: we need a camera angle for. 958 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,520 Speaker 10: This, Hey we need Mike on Okay, we he got Mike. 959 00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:28,960 Speaker 9: We've got Mike ready, but he hasn't seen a replay 960 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:30,839 Speaker 9: yet where he can see anything yet, So hold on, 961 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:34,440 Speaker 9: hold on, and then boom, he's on TV and then 962 00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,200 Speaker 9: he's off, and then you're going right back to the 963 00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,680 Speaker 9: next game if it's a multi game situation. 964 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:40,480 Speaker 10: That's the other thing. 965 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,399 Speaker 9: I was only there on a day when they had 966 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:45,160 Speaker 9: two Fox games in the early window. 967 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,440 Speaker 10: He said the week before that they had five Fox. 968 00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,279 Speaker 9: Games in the early window. And he's helping all of 969 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,960 Speaker 9: those producers and all of that broadcast talent understand the 970 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:54,880 Speaker 9: rules all at once. 971 00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,000 Speaker 5: So basically, Joel, all I'm hearing is that you didn't 972 00:42:58,040 --> 00:42:59,839 Speaker 5: have the guts to walk in there and tell them, Hey, 973 00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,120 Speaker 5: this call that ruined my team years ago. 974 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:03,160 Speaker 4: You should have been there. 975 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:05,600 Speaker 5: To correct this, because I feel like every fan in 976 00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,960 Speaker 5: America would love the opportunity to tell him, you know what, 977 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,840 Speaker 5: bleep bleep bleeped at replay, whatever your interpretation of it was, 978 00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:12,560 Speaker 5: that was a catch. 979 00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:16,120 Speaker 9: So well, the interesting thing is that the interesting thing 980 00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,239 Speaker 9: is that Pereira knows the rule books so well that 981 00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,640 Speaker 9: he a lot of times if you're watching the broadcast. 982 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,680 Speaker 10: You kind of you'll hear and you'll see it. I mean, 983 00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,560 Speaker 10: I know, James, you've seen it con in Colts games. 984 00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,879 Speaker 10: Were like they'll make a call and then a bunch 985 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:31,560 Speaker 10: of fans. 986 00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,320 Speaker 9: Will say, hey, Mike Pereira or whoever. The ref on 987 00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,960 Speaker 9: the broadcast said that this was the wrong Paul. And 988 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:41,000 Speaker 9: that's interesting too, because yeah, some of their rules knowledge. 989 00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,600 Speaker 9: Like hearing him and Steve Strimling talk to the rules 990 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,879 Speaker 9: as they're going was wild because they're like getting into 991 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,680 Speaker 9: stuff that I never consider. And he said, you know, 992 00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:52,640 Speaker 9: another big part of what they do is educating the 993 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:57,080 Speaker 9: broadcasters because they can't the broadcasters. James me, Kevin, we 994 00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:01,000 Speaker 9: can't be expected to understrule, he said. He said, you 995 00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,839 Speaker 9: can't be expected to understand the rule book that I've 996 00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:05,560 Speaker 9: been reading literally for decades. 997 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,080 Speaker 3: It's Joel Ericson from A and Apple Star that'll be 998 00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,919 Speaker 3: up on The Star's website, hopefully in the next day 999 00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,279 Speaker 3: or so. Looking forward to that full piece Joel gets 1000 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:15,080 Speaker 3: to work from. 1001 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,240 Speaker 6: Joel, Oh no, no, it's it's done. 1002 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:22,600 Speaker 9: Indiana sports scene will not quit. Yes, we keep looking 1003 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:26,040 Speaker 9: for a police to let it go, and something keeps happening. 1004 00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:29,280 Speaker 3: Well, speaking of quitting and xaviing Howard that news yesterday 1005 00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,160 Speaker 3: retiring from the NFL. I mean way, I was sitting 1006 00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:33,960 Speaker 3: there on a platter. Unlike the Reds. I'm not actually 1007 00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:37,360 Speaker 3: gonna hit the ball there speaking uh Joel, let's start 1008 00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,440 Speaker 3: there with you know, I I asked James Voyd this 1009 00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,200 Speaker 3: to lead off the show. I didn't of course, we 1010 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,560 Speaker 3: didn't see how to practice yesterday. It was listed as 1011 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,120 Speaker 3: a personal matter. I didn't catch him in the locker 1012 00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,320 Speaker 3: room either. You guys, did I think see him in 1013 00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:51,839 Speaker 3: the locker room after Sunday's game? 1014 00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:53,759 Speaker 6: Did you get I don't know, did you get any 1015 00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,280 Speaker 6: vibe that this was even a possibility. 1016 00:44:56,680 --> 00:45:01,919 Speaker 9: He so in to the Denver game When we got 1017 00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:07,160 Speaker 9: him on the Monday after, I thought that there was 1018 00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:08,960 Speaker 9: a difference in the interviews he did. 1019 00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:10,960 Speaker 10: He was a little bit hard to get. 1020 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,359 Speaker 9: I think, you know, the colch cr staff did a 1021 00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,719 Speaker 9: really good job making sure he didn't, you know, kind 1022 00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:20,760 Speaker 9: of escape on us, want to talk to us. Yeah, 1023 00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:24,000 Speaker 9: and and you know, he'd been pretty candid about his 1024 00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,399 Speaker 9: play and we kind of had to pull it out 1025 00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,560 Speaker 9: of him a little bit on Sunday. 1026 00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,080 Speaker 10: So I don't know that I thought. 1027 00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:36,080 Speaker 9: Requirement was a possibility at this point, But I did 1028 00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:39,080 Speaker 9: think I do think I got the vibe that like 1029 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:40,680 Speaker 9: that one got to him a little bit more. 1030 00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,960 Speaker 5: And then when you look at their options at cornerback, Joel, 1031 00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,000 Speaker 5: where do you go from here? Because Examin Howard had 1032 00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,920 Speaker 5: been a starter throughout the first four games of this season, 1033 00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,840 Speaker 5: and so when you look at Makay Blackman, Jonathan Edwards, 1034 00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:57,359 Speaker 5: you know Jaylen Jones could possibly return next week. How 1035 00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:00,520 Speaker 5: are you kind of ranking your pecking order in that regard? 1036 00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,239 Speaker 9: Well, this game, you know, any Ruma likes to play 1037 00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:06,280 Speaker 9: the matchups, and this game against the Raiders, I think 1038 00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:08,920 Speaker 9: kind of sets up as a Mkai Blackman game because 1039 00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,520 Speaker 9: the Raiders' number two receivers so far this year has 1040 00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:15,320 Speaker 9: been Trey Tucker, and he's he's a burner, He's a 1041 00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,000 Speaker 9: guy who's gonna beat That's what Mkayi Blackman has been, 1042 00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,480 Speaker 9: you know, essentially, that's the role he's been playing all season. 1043 00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:24,880 Speaker 9: So I kind of figure you'll get black men. We 1044 00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,319 Speaker 9: saw a lot of black men when when Ward missed 1045 00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,960 Speaker 9: the second game of the season. I do think you'll 1046 00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:33,239 Speaker 9: see a little bit more Jonathan Edwards, and he did 1047 00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,280 Speaker 9: have a pass breakup in his in his three snaps, 1048 00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,319 Speaker 9: he got the other day, and it was a nice one. 1049 00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,400 Speaker 9: You know, he at some point you kind of have 1050 00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,160 Speaker 9: to do that. But really, I think the long term 1051 00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:47,200 Speaker 9: answer this season is get Jalen Jones fully healthy, get 1052 00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,399 Speaker 9: him in this defense, and give him a chance, because 1053 00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,840 Speaker 9: we've seen Jalen Jones play like a starting cornerback in 1054 00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:55,239 Speaker 9: the NFL, and as long as you can get that 1055 00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,440 Speaker 9: hamstring to the point where he can really play on it, 1056 00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,719 Speaker 9: I think that's that's probably that's the that's the answer. 1057 00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,000 Speaker 9: We thought it was going to be all season before 1058 00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,399 Speaker 9: some of the injuries kind of kind of messed with him. 1059 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,719 Speaker 9: But I think that's the real answer for this team 1060 00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,080 Speaker 9: is your your best shot is probably Jamn Jones. 1061 00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,200 Speaker 2: Joy Eric's and the Indie Star joining us on the 1062 00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,480 Speaker 2: pay Less Slickers hotline. What's your sense of what the 1063 00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,600 Speaker 2: wide receivers are going to look like when the official 1064 00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:19,720 Speaker 2: rosters are announced before the game on Sunday. 1065 00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:25,160 Speaker 10: You know, it is interesting that Shane Steiken. 1066 00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:28,920 Speaker 9: Said we'll see how the week goes, but asked about 1067 00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:33,000 Speaker 9: you know, Ady Mitchell's availability. I Alec Pierce being in 1068 00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:34,920 Speaker 9: a blue jersey yesterday is a good sign, and for 1069 00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:38,040 Speaker 9: him playing against the Raiders typically that means they're in 1070 00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:41,440 Speaker 9: the last step of the five steps of the concussion Protocol, 1071 00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:43,960 Speaker 9: which puts him in a spot where you're just waiting 1072 00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:47,319 Speaker 9: on an independent neurologist to evaluate. It's where Ward was 1073 00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:49,880 Speaker 9: two weeks ago, and he ended up playing in that 1074 00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:53,920 Speaker 9: Titans game. So it probably looks good for Peers playing 1075 00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:57,040 Speaker 9: Ady Mitchell, I think is the real question mark, and 1076 00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,960 Speaker 9: it's It's just it's very interesting that Shane Stiken can 1077 00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:03,439 Speaker 9: keep saying, you know, we'll see how the week goes. 1078 00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:04,960 Speaker 10: In terms of Mitchell playing. 1079 00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,120 Speaker 9: If he does play, I don't think I think you're 1080 00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,040 Speaker 9: if pierces back, you're back. He's back to like a 1081 00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,240 Speaker 9: ten to twelve snap roll at most. 1082 00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:13,880 Speaker 4: Would you sit him, Joel. 1083 00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:23,120 Speaker 9: Based on based on like what I think my end, 1084 00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,920 Speaker 9: like what I got from the coaches and players about 1085 00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:29,640 Speaker 9: how much they've emphasized this after the tailor mistake last year, 1086 00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:33,239 Speaker 9: I think probably yes, you have to, because I I 1087 00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:35,520 Speaker 9: don't know how you felt, James, but I got the 1088 00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,160 Speaker 9: impression in talking to Mitchell. 1089 00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:37,279 Speaker 2: That like. 1090 00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:41,880 Speaker 9: Part of what he was going through was knowing that 1091 00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:43,960 Speaker 9: they've said this over and over again. I think when 1092 00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,839 Speaker 9: we asked the question about you know. 1093 00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:48,360 Speaker 10: Is this something Shane's emphasized. 1094 00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,040 Speaker 9: I think before the question was even out, he was 1095 00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:53,279 Speaker 9: already saying, you know, letters and logos, letters and logos. 1096 00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:56,799 Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely for those listening, letters and logos means that 1097 00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,359 Speaker 5: Shane was basically telling them to run through the end 1098 00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,560 Speaker 5: zone where the letters and logos of the team are painted. 1099 00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:04,080 Speaker 5: And so, yes, you are correct, Joel. When we were 1100 00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:07,440 Speaker 5: talking to ad we didn't even ask that question before 1101 00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:09,319 Speaker 5: he mentioned it himself, which I had to follow up 1102 00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:12,120 Speaker 5: and say, what does that even mean? So along those lines, 1103 00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:15,879 Speaker 5: as we pivot away from Xavin Howard and Adie Mitchell 1104 00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:19,040 Speaker 5: in this conversation, how would you assess Daniel Jones? I 1105 00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:20,799 Speaker 5: know you've been over all over this, I think this 1106 00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,359 Speaker 5: week trying of asking him and the coach, you know 1107 00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,200 Speaker 5: what went into your turnovers? How do you bounce back 1108 00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:28,480 Speaker 5: from him? How would you assess his performance? And then 1109 00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,040 Speaker 5: perhaps the ability to bounce back against the Raiders. 1110 00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:36,239 Speaker 9: I think part of it is just I think part 1111 00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:39,040 Speaker 9: of it is just they've got to do a better 1112 00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,640 Speaker 9: job protecting him. He done a good job under pressure 1113 00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,080 Speaker 9: this year, but I do think that when the pressure 1114 00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:46,920 Speaker 9: is as consistent as it was on Sunday, it speeds 1115 00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:49,960 Speaker 9: a quarterback up or makes them a little bit uncertain. 1116 00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:53,080 Speaker 9: I think the other thing, And no one has said this. 1117 00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:54,920 Speaker 9: This is just kind of me watching him over the 1118 00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:57,279 Speaker 9: course of the season. If he's going to throw the 1119 00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:58,680 Speaker 9: deep ball, it has to get out early. 1120 00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:00,080 Speaker 10: It can't be. 1121 00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,440 Speaker 9: It can't be a later ball in the in the 1122 00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,360 Speaker 9: in the progression he's he's got to get it out. 1123 00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:09,600 Speaker 10: Early so the receiver can go under it. I thought, 1124 00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:10,600 Speaker 10: you know, I. 1125 00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:14,640 Speaker 9: Thought that Mitchell throw was open when he uh, you know, 1126 00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:17,360 Speaker 9: when he's when he let it go. But he doesn't 1127 00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:19,560 Speaker 9: necessarily have the It doesn't seem like he has the 1128 00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:21,040 Speaker 9: arm strength to drive it. 1129 00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:22,279 Speaker 10: It's where it. 1130 00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,640 Speaker 9: Needs to go, So I think you can. You can 1131 00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:27,040 Speaker 9: be successful throwing the ball down the field doing that. 1132 00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:28,399 Speaker 9: You just have to get it out early. And when 1133 00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:31,520 Speaker 9: we've seen him be successful getting the ball down the field, 1134 00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:33,319 Speaker 9: it's usually when he knows where he's going with it 1135 00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,040 Speaker 9: and lets it go early in the route and then 1136 00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:38,160 Speaker 9: lets the receiver run under it and and make a 1137 00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:40,600 Speaker 9: play on the ball. That's where you know, Alec Pierce 1138 00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,560 Speaker 9: helps a ton, because Pierce is so good when the 1139 00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,880 Speaker 9: ball is in the air at aggressively attacking it and 1140 00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:46,880 Speaker 9: going to get the football. 1141 00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:47,439 Speaker 7: Joe. 1142 00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:49,239 Speaker 2: I know we've kept it for a while today and 1143 00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:52,360 Speaker 2: we appreciate that. But before we go, I'd be remiss 1144 00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:55,799 Speaker 2: if I didn't say, ask you from your perspective, what 1145 00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,440 Speaker 2: what should we know and be talking about with Shaq 1146 00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:01,200 Speaker 2: Leonard and the announcement of his retirement and him banging 1147 00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:02,160 Speaker 2: the anvil this Sunday. 1148 00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,440 Speaker 9: So I don't know how you I don't know the 1149 00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:08,080 Speaker 9: reception you guys have gotten. I think on on social 1150 00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:13,120 Speaker 9: media you get a little bit of oddly, a little 1151 00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:15,759 Speaker 9: bit of some stuff where people are like, why is 1152 00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:18,840 Speaker 9: this a big deal? He was he was on the 1153 00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:20,120 Speaker 9: way to being in the Hall of Fame. 1154 00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,240 Speaker 10: Like he was an incredible player. 1155 00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,560 Speaker 9: I think the only to me, Shack Leonard is an 1156 00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:29,160 Speaker 9: ultimate what if type of story, like what if he'd 1157 00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,919 Speaker 9: been healthy his whole career because even in twenty twenty one, 1158 00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:35,000 Speaker 9: you know, he forced a bunch of turnovers, But that 1159 00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,920 Speaker 9: was the start of him realizing that there was something 1160 00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:39,520 Speaker 9: wrong with a nerve in his back. At the time, 1161 00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:41,759 Speaker 9: they thought it was his leg, but that was the 1162 00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:43,960 Speaker 9: start of the injury. Was that season. I remember we 1163 00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:47,080 Speaker 9: had interviews with him where he said I can't react 1164 00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:49,759 Speaker 9: the way I used to. I want to explode and 1165 00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,560 Speaker 9: my leg isn't doing it, So really you do. You 1166 00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:55,759 Speaker 9: only got four years, and really it was three years 1167 00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,600 Speaker 9: of healthy Leonard, and I think, I think that's that's 1168 00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:01,600 Speaker 9: to me if he goes down, and you know, this franchise, 1169 00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:04,080 Speaker 9: like like a lot of franchise has a lot of 1170 00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:07,480 Speaker 9: these types of players. But to me, that's that's how 1171 00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,919 Speaker 9: I look at him, is what if he hadn't gotten hurt, 1172 00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:12,440 Speaker 9: what if he hadn't had a spinal injury? Because he 1173 00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:16,160 Speaker 9: was really, really good and really really unique as a 1174 00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:18,320 Speaker 9: player when he was when he was playing. 1175 00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:20,680 Speaker 10: People don't realize this. 1176 00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:24,960 Speaker 9: I don't think, but statistically speaking, turnovers are not something 1177 00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,560 Speaker 9: that are replicated easily a year over year. They're just 1178 00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:29,600 Speaker 9: not There's a few guys in the history of the 1179 00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:32,759 Speaker 9: NFL who've been able to make them consistent, and he's 1180 00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:33,719 Speaker 9: one of them. 1181 00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:37,360 Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us. Good luck in the baseball playoffs 1182 00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:38,640 Speaker 2: this weekend. We'll see how things go. 1183 00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:40,960 Speaker 6: We have four of fifty five brewers. 1184 00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:42,080 Speaker 2: That's impessing. 1185 00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:44,320 Speaker 6: You couldn't get the guy with a big beard. 1186 00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:47,480 Speaker 10: Yeah, Drew Avens. Drew Avens gonna haunt me. 1187 00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:49,359 Speaker 4: Have a good one y'all. 1188 00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:50,719 Speaker 10: Thanks well, the. 1189 00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:54,719 Speaker 2: That's like one of the all time great intros right 1190 00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:58,160 Speaker 2: there for Jason Hammer from WIBC coming in here and 1191 00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:00,680 Speaker 2: make us all a little bit of money. Love that 1192 00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:02,399 Speaker 2: when Mark's pumping you up like. 1193 00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:04,640 Speaker 6: That, the Shane o' mac theme. I like it. 1194 00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,160 Speaker 1: I could get with that. We had a pretty good 1195 00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:10,520 Speaker 1: week last week. Okay, so we got the Big Game 1196 00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:13,560 Speaker 1: right on Thursday. That's three and one on the Big 1197 00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:17,000 Speaker 1: Game picks. We split the props, so we went two 1198 00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:19,719 Speaker 1: out of three last week. That's a winning week. We 1199 00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:23,120 Speaker 1: also gave you Michael Pittman of the Colts plus two 1200 00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:26,720 Speaker 1: point fifteen on anytime touchdown. We cashed that bad boy. 1201 00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:31,520 Speaker 1: We had Kevin's Irish cover for us. Lost the Georgia bet, 1202 00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:33,920 Speaker 1: but all in all, it was a good week. And 1203 00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:37,239 Speaker 1: the policy around here is when I win, you win. 1204 00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:39,200 Speaker 6: Come on. So look what we got here. 1205 00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:42,120 Speaker 4: It's drugs. 1206 00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:45,560 Speaker 3: Is this do you imagine seeing that at your trigger 1207 00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:48,520 Speaker 3: treaty neighborhood honey, stand on this side of the side 1208 00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:52,200 Speaker 3: mondo for you, Kevin, So take one, pull it out, 1209 00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:53,320 Speaker 3: pass it around the board. 1210 00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:53,520 Speaker 7: Here. 1211 00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:54,360 Speaker 13: It's a little. 1212 00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:58,160 Speaker 6: Something something to celebrate, boy, some cash money, oh boy 1213 00:53:58,880 --> 00:53:59,720 Speaker 6: to say, oh man. 1214 00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:03,200 Speaker 1: But your hand in my big bag, Mama, I'm sorry. 1215 00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:07,759 Speaker 1: Got over to Mark and KB and honestly, I think 1216 00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:10,880 Speaker 1: the turning point last week was the pep talk that 1217 00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:12,200 Speaker 1: Kevin Bowen gave me. 1218 00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:12,680 Speaker 10: Thank you. 1219 00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:14,840 Speaker 1: It was like that scene in Rudy where Rudy was 1220 00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,080 Speaker 1: down on his luck and then the jam, what you're doing? 1221 00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:18,840 Speaker 6: Don't you have practice? Not anymore? 1222 00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:19,200 Speaker 7: I quit? 1223 00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:22,799 Speaker 3: Well, since when are you the Quinn con Amore going 1224 00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:23,640 Speaker 3: to make that dressing? 1225 00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:27,000 Speaker 6: Come on, come on, that's fantastic. 1226 00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:27,239 Speaker 7: Now. 1227 00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,239 Speaker 1: I wasn't sure you were going to recite that, but 1228 00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:33,000 Speaker 1: I made a backup plan just in case you didn't 1229 00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:36,400 Speaker 1: feel comfortable doing that. Here to recap what happened last 1230 00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:39,320 Speaker 1: week and what he goes through on a daily basis 1231 00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:43,280 Speaker 1: here at the fan, please welcome back Ai Kevin Bowen. 1232 00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:45,160 Speaker 13: Look, it's pretty bad. 1233 00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:48,400 Speaker 14: I have to motivate your big fat beach grove face 1234 00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:50,880 Speaker 14: to do a good job. But it's par for the 1235 00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:53,960 Speaker 14: course for me around here. I carry this station. And 1236 00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,360 Speaker 14: what reward do I get? I'm in a studio with 1237 00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:59,239 Speaker 14: all guys. It looks like the worst fraternity on an 1238 00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:03,080 Speaker 14: all male camp. Oh and I have my boss in here. Maybe, 1239 00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:05,960 Speaker 14: if I'm lucky, he'll wear his tight, sweaty spandex shorts 1240 00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:08,320 Speaker 14: he wears for biking, exposing his old man crotch. 1241 00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:09,000 Speaker 7: Maybe. 1242 00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,759 Speaker 14: As for everyone else in here, I still don't know 1243 00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:13,799 Speaker 14: James last name, and Mark just smells like. 1244 00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:16,800 Speaker 13: A poor person. Maybe just get on with this segment. 1245 00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:20,160 Speaker 14: This delay is taking away time I could be talking 1246 00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:22,160 Speaker 14: about golf and being better than people. 1247 00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,120 Speaker 13: Ai Bowen out. 1248 00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:28,799 Speaker 6: I think I pretty much encompassed Kevin Bowen to a. 1249 00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:35,160 Speaker 1: Tea right, the golf loving elitist that is Kevin Bowen. 1250 00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:37,440 Speaker 2: I feel like we captured that, didn't we? 1251 00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:38,719 Speaker 3: Wow? 1252 00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:41,680 Speaker 6: I'm sitting here, you know, Wow? You have Jason Hammer 1253 00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:43,439 Speaker 6: in for these segments. I give up my seat. 1254 00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:45,279 Speaker 4: How you really feel? 1255 00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:46,160 Speaker 9: Mark? 1256 00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:48,919 Speaker 4: I love over here and Mark Tykes and I share 1257 00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:49,239 Speaker 4: a Mike? 1258 00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:50,280 Speaker 6: Can we share a headset? 1259 00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:51,759 Speaker 7: All of a sudden. 1260 00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:59,400 Speaker 1: That I sent you, you knew what was coming, right, Okay? 1261 00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:01,080 Speaker 7: Man? 1262 00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:03,200 Speaker 6: I think, oh, thank you. It's funny. 1263 00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:05,800 Speaker 2: That's what we go with. 1264 00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:09,279 Speaker 4: Okay, or so he says. 1265 00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:15,600 Speaker 5: Every week, I got beef with this Ai boweing guy, James. 1266 00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:21,000 Speaker 3: Right night, We've got the divisional game with a touchdown underdoll. 1267 00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:22,520 Speaker 11: Yeah. 1268 00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:23,960 Speaker 6: Man, this one tonight. 1269 00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:27,000 Speaker 1: So many injuries on the forty nine er side and 1270 00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:30,800 Speaker 1: a short week too, but the Nighters always play the 1271 00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:33,239 Speaker 1: Rams really well and vice versa. It's one of these 1272 00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:36,359 Speaker 1: games where it's usually close, but with the injuries, I'm 1273 00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:38,799 Speaker 1: kind of out on a side. So let's look at 1274 00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:42,359 Speaker 1: this total here. Depending on which book you're using, shop 1275 00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:45,720 Speaker 1: around find the best number. I'm seeing the over under 1276 00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:48,520 Speaker 1: at around forty five. Some spots might have it at 1277 00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:51,479 Speaker 1: forty four, forty four and a half. I saw forty five. 1278 00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:54,240 Speaker 1: So we're gonna ride the under. 1279 00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:54,600 Speaker 4: On this one. 1280 00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:58,279 Speaker 1: Hold your nose and take the under tonight. Each of 1281 00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:01,880 Speaker 1: the rams last five games as home favorites, it's gone 1282 00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:08,040 Speaker 1: under forty nine Ers decent defensively at times divisional matchup, 1283 00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:11,680 Speaker 1: they know the Rams, they're beat up, so we're going 1284 00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:14,960 Speaker 1: to again. I hate being under guy here. You hate 1285 00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:18,240 Speaker 1: rooting for punts, but I think under is to play 1286 00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:21,720 Speaker 1: on this one short week injuries, go under forty five. 1287 00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:22,440 Speaker 7: I like that. 1288 00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:24,480 Speaker 2: I like that a lot for all the reasons you said, 1289 00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:26,840 Speaker 2: And I'm just really worried about how many points the 1290 00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:31,120 Speaker 2: Niners can score r this game tonight as much as anything, and. 1291 00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:33,880 Speaker 1: The Rams as much as Stafford passes for big yardage, 1292 00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:37,040 Speaker 1: and you see Nikua have these video game like numbers. 1293 00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:39,720 Speaker 1: It's not like they're putting forty on the board either, 1294 00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:42,240 Speaker 1: like they get down the field, but sometimes they struggle 1295 00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:44,440 Speaker 1: in the red zone. So are prop bets we're going 1296 00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:48,480 Speaker 1: to do tonight. We're going to look at Christian McCaffrey 1297 00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:51,000 Speaker 1: for the forty nine ers. Somebody is going to have 1298 00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:53,520 Speaker 1: to touch the football for the forty nine ers, it's 1299 00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:57,160 Speaker 1: probably McCaffrey. We're going to go over fifty four and 1300 00:57:57,200 --> 00:58:01,080 Speaker 1: a half receiving yards from McCaffrey to if you look 1301 00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:05,440 Speaker 1: at his targets in every game, just targets ten, seven, fifteen, 1302 00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:10,280 Speaker 1: and eleven, and his yardage every game seventy three, fifty two, 1303 00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:13,920 Speaker 1: eighty eight and ninety two receiving yards. So we're going 1304 00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,960 Speaker 1: to take that over tonight. Whether it's Purty, whether it's 1305 00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:19,880 Speaker 1: mac Jones, I can't see them doing anything but dnking 1306 00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:20,480 Speaker 1: and dunking. 1307 00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:22,240 Speaker 6: So let's ride out McCaffrey. 1308 00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:24,280 Speaker 1: And if you want some plus money, if you want 1309 00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:28,800 Speaker 1: to get a little nuts tonight, Davante Adams anytime touchdown 1310 00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,640 Speaker 1: for the Rams, you can get that around plus one 1311 00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:35,160 Speaker 1: twenty five it's not huge, but it's plus plus money. 1312 00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:39,520 Speaker 1: Nine red zone targets so far leads the NFL in 1313 00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:42,840 Speaker 1: red zone targets, doesn't lead in catches in the red zone, 1314 00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:44,920 Speaker 1: but they're looking for him in the red zone. That's 1315 00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:46,560 Speaker 1: all I'm asking for it plus money. 1316 00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:50,320 Speaker 2: All right, that's where we're at, Dan, Let's go into 1317 00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:54,200 Speaker 2: the little gifts that you gave us. Here, it's all smoky, 1318 00:58:54,800 --> 00:59:00,160 Speaker 2: like mini bell jar full of I'm guessing spirits, shine. 1319 00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:04,080 Speaker 1: White, lightning, commercial shine. Now when I say shine, like 1320 00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:06,720 Speaker 1: the purists get all upset. It's not really shine unless 1321 00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:08,920 Speaker 1: some hillbillion a mountain makes it and then passes it 1322 00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:12,120 Speaker 1: to you in an unmarked jar. But the best you 1323 00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:16,320 Speaker 1: can get store bought, probably old smoky. Right, so on 1324 00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:20,080 Speaker 1: behalf of the winning week, last week and my birthday 1325 00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:23,560 Speaker 1: which is today. Oh, we are going to celebrate. Everybody 1326 00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:26,680 Speaker 1: crack one of these bad boys open. Here's to making 1327 00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:28,960 Speaker 1: so much money we can buy our way out of 1328 00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:31,400 Speaker 1: any situation and buy any politician. 1329 00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:33,960 Speaker 2: Cheers, Everybody go, I. 1330 00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:34,760 Speaker 4: Don't drink. 1331 00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:37,000 Speaker 2: On the air man. 1332 00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:41,480 Speaker 4: Oh wow you are Yeah, it was gone. 1333 00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:43,760 Speaker 6: That was a breath, and it was gone. That was 1334 00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:45,240 Speaker 6: electric by Jason Hammer. 1335 00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:47,280 Speaker 4: That's an elite talent right there. 1336 00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:48,320 Speaker 2: I've done that before. 1337 00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:52,840 Speaker 3: That there. If we can gamble like that, well we 1338 00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:56,480 Speaker 3: might be you know, we might be retire of the 1339 00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:57,200 Speaker 3: beach front home. 1340 00:59:57,240 --> 01:00:01,400 Speaker 4: And what is the rest of the birthday entail? 1341 01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:04,840 Speaker 5: Any birthday? Any birthday props you're throwing out there is 1342 01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:07,160 Speaker 5: you're just feeling a little too good today to pass up. 1343 01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:09,160 Speaker 1: So we're gonna have to maybe do a little baseball 1344 01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:11,280 Speaker 1: parlay in. I'm not a parlay guy. 1345 01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:12,280 Speaker 6: You guys know that. 1346 01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:15,120 Speaker 1: I think they're sucker bets. But it's my birthday, so 1347 01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:19,040 Speaker 1: I'll try a little lightning here. Maybe looking at the Guardians, Cubs, 1348 01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:21,360 Speaker 1: and Yankees. Do a little money line with those home 1349 01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:24,560 Speaker 1: team action there, I'll go home team all right, man. 1350 01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:28,120 Speaker 3: Happy birthday, degenerates next door you and Rob Kendall. We've 1351 01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:30,640 Speaker 3: already got the college football pod out NFL pot later today, 1352 01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:31,240 Speaker 3: is that correct? 1353 01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:34,200 Speaker 1: That's right around one o'clock this afternoon. We'll break down 1354 01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:36,680 Speaker 1: the game of the week, which it's kind of a 1355 01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:38,360 Speaker 1: dud slate in the NFL. 1356 01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:38,960 Speaker 2: This week. 1357 01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:42,520 Speaker 1: We looked at Tampa Bay and Seattle probably has the 1358 01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:44,880 Speaker 1: game of the week, so we'll pick that. We have 1359 01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:47,760 Speaker 1: professional gamblers to come on, we make them give out 1360 01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:50,120 Speaker 1: free plays, they'll pick that and we'll have some more 1361 01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:50,640 Speaker 1: props to. 1362 01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:54,600 Speaker 3: The lowest over under in the NFL this season in 1363 01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:59,360 Speaker 3: London that is thirty five points Vikings and Browns, Carson 1364 01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:02,800 Speaker 3: Wentz and Gabriel. Nothing says international football like that. 1365 01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:05,600 Speaker 5: I feel like they always get the worst game they do, right, 1366 01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:08,840 Speaker 5: like just offul you know here, here is you know 1367 01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:10,520 Speaker 5: in the league Jacksonville. 1368 01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:13,240 Speaker 1: A couple of years ago, I can't remember what it was. 1369 01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:16,560 Speaker 1: It was some horrible game in Germany, and somebody said, 1370 01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:19,600 Speaker 1: what have the Germans done to deserve this game? And 1371 01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:20,800 Speaker 1: then everybody took a pause. 1372 01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:22,320 Speaker 4: I was like, well, that might not. 1373 01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:24,920 Speaker 6: Be the line on the other side. 1374 01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:28,600 Speaker 2: Jason, happy birthday, have a good day. Thank you, gentlemen. 1375 01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:29,280 Speaker 6: Let's win tonight. 1376 01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:29,720 Speaker 7: Let's go. 1377 01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:30,760 Speaker 6: Happy birthday, Hammer