1 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: So there I was over the weekend, and I was 2 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: hosting an event. 3 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 2: For a few hundred people, and I was doing a presentation, 4 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 2: and and in in the presentation, uh I I incorporate 5 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 2: a tremendous amount of bourbon bourbon for everybody. 6 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 1: And the people who supply me the bourbon, Mike and Jim. 7 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:29,639 Speaker 2: Uh they they said, hey, we got something for you 8 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 2: for your table, and uh walks over, walks over the box. 9 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 3: Got it? 10 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 1: I got it right here, I got walks over with 11 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: a box. Nice sniss. Is the Jack Daniels Sinatra. 12 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 2: Tea drink smoke. I'm Tony Katz. That's America's favorite amateur drinker. 13 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 2: Fingers maloy and uh yes, it's a it's a lovely, 14 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 2: lovely box in the interior, uh, with with the little 15 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 2: book and the story of. 16 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: Sinatra, and then a place for the bourbon. 17 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 2: It's a one liter bottle, ladies, and Johnny coming in 18 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 2: at ninety proof. No applause, but it is the Sinatra, So, 19 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 2: oh my god, he makes the exception. 20 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 1: Luck be lady, two nights. 21 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 2: Shut chat shut, Sammy, bring the car around, which I'm 22 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 2: pretty sure God said, I'm just going to say that 23 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 2: right there. 24 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: The Sinatra is like for some people the Holy Grail. 25 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: There is a real, real love of what this is. 26 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 2: And this isn't bourbon, of course, this is Tennessee whiskey 27 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 2: because it is Jack Daniels eighty percent corn, eight percent 28 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 2: rye twelve percent malted barley or it's just just say 29 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 2: twelve percent barley aged five to seven years. And there's 30 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 2: a whole style in which how they do the barrel. 31 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 2: They kind of cut these grooves into the middle of 32 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 2: the barrel and then you know after I think it's 33 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 2: after the char and so you have different types of 34 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 2: wood hitting the. 35 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: Juice right here. 36 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 2: But it is, it is is the rarer find the 37 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 2: Jack Daniel sinatra is one of the rarer things. 38 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 1: And and it's it is this. 39 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 2: I mean that is just a deep, a deeper orange 40 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 2: right there. It's almost apple juice color. 41 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: Is where we are with this. And what's weird is, 42 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 1: you know, normally Jack Daniels is that banana knows right, 43 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 1: that banana flavor. 44 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 2: It's it's so outrageously distinctive, but it's I don't get 45 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:40,359 Speaker 2: it from this. So it's a little breadier, it's a 46 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 2: little richer, a little a little fuller, a little more. 47 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 3: It's a little more cake for me than it is 48 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 3: more fruit banana. Okay, I guess is the way to 49 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:54,239 Speaker 3: put some The banana is there for me, but it's fainter. Also, 50 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 3: you get some oak, a little bit faint oak, and 51 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 3: for me vanilla. 52 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, a touch of vanilla. Touch of vanilla. By the way, 53 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: this groove idea. 54 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 2: If you don't want to get yourself a bottle of 55 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 2: the Jack Daniel Sinatra, we'll go over costs in a minute. 56 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 2: According to the people at the bourbonculture dot com, the 57 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 2: same barrel process is used on Cooper's craft, the one 58 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 2: hundred proof, and we have had that bourbon before because 59 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 2: it's made by Old Forester, which is Brown Foreman, same 60 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 2: group of people as Jack Daniels. But it's the nose 61 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 2: does not overwhelm. No, it's it's flavorful, but it doesn't 62 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 2: have any particular punch to it. I can't say that 63 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 2: I'm getting a great bit of oak on it. I 64 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 2: could argue there's a little bit of a citrus kind 65 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 2: of kind of movement going on there, but that's that 66 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 2: is really it. 67 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 3: I'm starting to worry that I'm getting the cold that 68 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 3: you had a couple of weeks ago. 69 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: You're not picking things up. 70 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 3: No, I'm starting to get a little stuffed up. I 71 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 3: to the point where it makes me want to sneeze. 72 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 3: But I can still pick things up. But it's weird 73 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 3: that banana hits me first. But I don't know if 74 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 3: it's just because I've got Jack Daniels on the brain, 75 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 3: and you know this is all just psychological. But once 76 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 3: you get in there, it's the first hint is banana. 77 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 3: But it's not nearly as strong as what I would 78 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 3: expect from Jack Daniels. 79 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's the it's it's it's more cake. There's 80 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:29,280 Speaker 2: more of a citrus right going on. 81 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:31,720 Speaker 1: But you know what it's. It's enough A sniff and 82 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: fingers from WY. Are you ready for this? 83 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 3: I've been ready for well, for Sinatra. I've been ready 84 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 3: for this all my life. 85 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 2: The Jack Daniels Sinatra right here, the Sinatra select bold, smooth, 86 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 2: classic Tennessee whiskey. 87 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: Fingers from WY is doing what's known as the Kentucky chew, 88 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 1: moving the. 89 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 2: Juice around the palette, really trying to get a feel 90 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 2: for it. I'm a believer in the two SIPs methodology. 91 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 2: The first tip to set the taste buds. The second 92 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 2: tip to really. 93 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: Get an idea of the flavors. 94 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 4: What say you fingers, Well, there's definitely Uh, I would say, 95 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 4: what that banana as if you happen to be Inhaling 96 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 4: as you take it, Uh, you know the taste, Uh, 97 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 4: you'll get that. 98 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 3: But there's no real banana flavor on the palate. It's 99 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 3: a i'd say a little bit of baking spice. Uh, 100 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 3: there's some oak, maybe some cherry. Uh, it's a pal Yes, 101 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 3: it's very good. It's it's it's it's very good. And uh, 102 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 3: I'm going back and forth. Maybe a little bit of 103 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 3: brown sugar. Okay, so you're you're giving the sweet a name. 104 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, I'm going in, going in, he's the 105 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:50,239 Speaker 2: Sinatra from Jack Daniels to Your Health. 106 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 3: To your Health. He's going in, ladies and gentlemen, and 107 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 3: he's doing what we like to call the Sagonna swish. 108 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 3: Maybe some cinnamon on the finish, not just swish, the 109 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 3: Sinatra swish there is. 110 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: I'm going back. I'll good for you. 111 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 3: Once again, going in and he's doing the Memphis munch. 112 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 3: H I a rat pack row ninety proof huh ninety 113 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 3: nice little bit of sting on the tongue. 114 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it plays bigger than ninety I do. 115 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:34,359 Speaker 1: I think you're right about Are you right about cherry? 116 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 2: You might be. 117 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 1: It's it's a it's a big fruit. There's a lot 118 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 1: of depth to the to the fruit. That's that's that's 119 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 1: that's going on there. 120 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 2: It's it has a little bit of spice and that 121 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 2: that certainly stays so the middle tongue going back in 122 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 2: only now do I get any kind of warmth in 123 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 2: in the chest? 124 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 1: There there is a sweetness that's kind of like a 125 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: that's not dark chocolate, that's not chocolate. Is that chocolate? 126 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 1: There are? 127 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 2: There are a couple of different layers of sweetness that 128 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 2: are going on. I'm wondering is that that's not nutty either? 129 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 2: And you do you do get a little bit of 130 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 2: vanilla in there? There is I think a little bit 131 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 2: of that kind of working its way through. It's got 132 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 2: a little bit of mouthfield to it, a little bit 133 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 2: of richness in the cheek. 134 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 3: Did you get any cinnamon unfinished it all? 135 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 2: No? 136 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, you must have a problem. 137 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 2: Probably it could be you. It probably it could probably 138 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 2: be you. My issue because I've had this snatcher before 139 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 2: I appreciate what Jack has done here. Fingers moly, is 140 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 2: this in your. 141 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: Liquor cabinet for one hundred and fifty five dollars? Now? 142 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: Absolutely not? Now it's a leader, not a seven fifty. 143 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 3: No. 144 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. So I like what they've done here, and it 145 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: is a a unique presentation, but man, is it not 146 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: my speed? It has never been my speed. 147 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 2: And when they brought it to me for the event, 148 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, I'm gonna try, of course, because I 149 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 2: was happy to give it another go. 150 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 3: Nope, Oh, listen, I like this one hundred and fifty 151 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 3: dollars a bottle. I love Sonati, I love Sinatra, I 152 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 3: love the rat pack. It would look cool on a mantle. 153 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:32,439 Speaker 3: But man, for the juice one hundred and fifty dollars now. 154 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: Fifty five dollars? Oh well, definitely. No. I think there 155 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: are other Jack things I'd want to do. I really, 156 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:43,079 Speaker 1: I really do. But we're gonna put it on a 157 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: cube and find out. 158 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 2: Let us talk about the state of tipping, which, as 159 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 2: we have discussed and you have experienced in your life, 160 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 2: has become freaking ridiculous. 161 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:04,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, drink smoke. Ops, Oh no, okay, you can say yes, whoops. 162 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 2: Yes, drink smoke. We should have had rehearsal. I'm Tony Katz. 163 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 2: That's America's favorite amateur drinker. Fingers with bloy because there 164 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 2: was the story over there from Fox News that we 165 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 2: found on the New York Post five most and least 166 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 2: generous tipping states, right who's good at tipping? 167 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:26,599 Speaker 1: Who is terrible at at at at at giving the 168 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: giving the tips? Right there? 169 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 2: And it turns out South Carolina is the top of 170 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 2: the tipping world, giving twenty point seven to one percent, 171 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 2: the only state to pass the twenty percent threshold. 172 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: And then after that it's Wisconsin, Connecticut, Maryland, and Nevada. 173 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: But on the other end. 174 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 2: You go to Illinois, then Alaska, New York, Virginia, and 175 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 2: then Oregon as the least generous state right there at 176 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 2: only thirteen percent is what it is. 177 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: They tip. 178 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 2: You can play a lot with this and talk about 179 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 2: the politics of the state, and you can do the. 180 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 3: Whole sorts, do the whole thing you could. You could 181 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 3: play politics with this all you want, well, I would want. 182 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 3: Let's take the state of Oregon. We don't know what, 183 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,439 Speaker 3: off the top of our heads, what the wage laws 184 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 3: are there as far. 185 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: As the minimum wage higher. 186 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then some states I believe, or at least 187 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 3: some cities have enacted where you have to pay you 188 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 3: know how some you know, weight staff. A lot of 189 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 3: times they'll only make three or four dollars an hour, 190 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 3: and then they make most of their money on tips 191 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 3: some restaurants. Maybe some states have made companies go ahead 192 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 3: and force them to pay a higher wage. So people 193 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 3: are saying, well, the tip is folded into the bill 194 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 3: already tipping. 195 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 1: As much, so that could be it as well. 196 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 2: By the way, in Oregon, the new laws come and 197 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 2: effect July twenty twenty six, where the standard rate will 198 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 2: be fifteen. 199 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 1: Dollars and five cents an hour. That's the minimum wage. 200 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 2: Non urban counties are fourteen dollars and five cents an hour, 201 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 2: and then in Portland, the Portland metro area, it's sixteen 202 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 2: dollars and thirty cents an hour, which that alone ends 203 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 2: the conversation of this living wage thing, because they're saying 204 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:31,199 Speaker 2: you can get less money in non urban areas because 205 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 2: it costs less to live, so therefore there's no such 206 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 2: things as a living wage, right, It's all mythology. But 207 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 2: the real issue here is that we have destroyed tipping 208 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 2: by demanding tips everywhere, always a machine. Do you want 209 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:53,199 Speaker 2: to leave a tip? Do you want to leave this? 210 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:54,959 Speaker 2: Do you want to leave that? And the answer is no. 211 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 2: Yet none of these people have learned that it's damaging 212 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 2: to the customer. And I can only conclude that the 213 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 2: only reason they haven't learned is that people are tipping less, 214 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:09,959 Speaker 2: but they're tipping more often. So the percentage no to 215 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 2: your point, right, you make a good point. I'm going 216 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:16,439 Speaker 2: in a different direction. The percentage could be down, but 217 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 2: the amount of tipping is up because every damn machine 218 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 2: kiosk nonsense for cock. 219 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 1: The craziness is saying, would you like to leave a tip? 220 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: Do you care? Or are you low life scumbag? 221 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 3: Huh? 222 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 1: Everybody's watching. 223 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:38,479 Speaker 3: Well. And what makes it worse is when the cashier 224 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 3: will not to cash here, the waiter or waitress cashes 225 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 3: you out and has the machine right there. Oh, the 226 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,199 Speaker 3: machine is going to ask you a question, but I'm 227 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 3: not looking what the answer is. But they got one 228 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 3: eye on the machine looking what the answer is. I'm 229 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 3: gonna tip you anyway, but it's like they're standing right 230 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:58,559 Speaker 3: over you as you're writing what the tip is going? 231 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: To be. So that's it's a violation. 232 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, but the reason for that is that it's about 233 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,959 Speaker 2: card safety. Right, You're no longer giving your card to 234 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 2: a total stranger who you also trusted to bring you 235 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 2: food that wasn't spit in, or we can go full 236 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 2: South Park and and and then they walk away with 237 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 2: the card and you're like, well, what did they do. 238 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: In my card? Where'd they take my card? Which is 239 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: that with my card? 240 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:26,959 Speaker 2: And so this way the card is safer because it's 241 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 2: never out of your eyesight or possession. 242 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 3: Then print a receipt for me to be able to 243 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:35,079 Speaker 3: fill out the rest of the information necessary to pay 244 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 3: my bill instead of you standing over me with the 245 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 3: tablet in my hand looking to see what I'm tipping. 246 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 2: And you've only given me three options two percent or mortgage. 247 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 2: That's the you're you're you're not You're not wrong about that. 248 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 2: The the tipping culture is a problem, and I do 249 00:13:56,200 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 2: think it's it is abusive, but I don't and I 250 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 2: by the way, you hear crazy stories where shop owners 251 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 2: keep the tips. 252 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:11,319 Speaker 1: Have you heard these? Oh? Yeah, that stuff is so 253 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: messed up. 254 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 3: I'll tell you another thing you need to start looking 255 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 3: at to our fees that are added to a bill 256 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 3: that you don't know what they are. And I'll give 257 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 3: you an example. Over the weekend, I was at a 258 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 3: hotel and spent the night and then charged a meal 259 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 3: and some drinks from the bar to my room. Right 260 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 3: and I woke up the next day and I looked 261 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 3: at the folio Industry lingo and there was a thirty 262 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 3: dollars service charge from the bar. And I said, I 263 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 3: don't know what this is. What a thirty dollars? Just 264 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 3: said the name of the bar, service charge thirty dollars. 265 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 3: And I said to myself, I have no idea what 266 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 3: this is. And if I would have just you know 267 00:14:57,920 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 3: a lot of people when they stay at a hotel, 268 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 3: they'll just leave and not check out, not get the bill, 269 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 3: and be surprised later. And well, I called the front desk. 270 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 3: I said, what is this thirty dollars service charge? They 271 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 3: put me on hold for about two minutes, came back 272 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 3: and said, we don't know what that service charge is, 273 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 3: so we will wave it. No. Yeah, So they waved 274 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 3: the thirty dollars service charge and I said, thank you 275 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 3: very much. Since you don't know what it is, it's 276 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 3: nice of you to wave it and I walked away happy. 277 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 3: But if I wouldn't have looked at the folio and 278 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 3: then called down, I would have been charged. 279 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: Thirty front desk said, we don't know what it is. 280 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 3: Yes, we don't know what it just says the restaurant 281 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 3: the bar service charge. And we're like, we don't know 282 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 3: what this is. And being that the bar wasn't open 283 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 3: because it was eleven thirty in the morning. 284 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 2: Assuming it's the bar giving itself the tip for the 285 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 2: server because you charged it to the room. 286 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 3: But I left, They still give you paperwork to fill out, 287 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 3: and I filled out the paperwork when I paid my bill, 288 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 3: and I put my name in my room number and 289 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 3: the tip and the total, and it wasn't thirty dollars 290 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 3: on the nose. It was very strange, But thank you 291 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 3: to that hotel for waving that fee that they imposed 292 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 3: on me. 293 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: That they didn't know what it was. 294 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 3: That is. 295 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: That's interesting. I have not seen that you. 296 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 3: Hear about that in Vegas too, Brando, Vegas can kiss 297 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 3: off and a lot of people are saying Vegas can 298 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 3: kiss You discuss that many times. But there are fees, 299 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 3: mystery fees where you can ask the restaurant what's this fee? 300 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 3: And a lot of times they'll wave it. It's crazy 301 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 3: the fees that are added in Las Vegas. So look 302 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 3: over your bill, whether it is the tip that's That's 303 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 3: the other thing too, when there's an automatic tip added 304 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 3: to your bill, and if you're not paying attention, you're 305 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 3: gonna tip on top of the bill and the tip 306 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 3: that was already added to begin with. 307 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 1: But those are places where you're expecting to tip. I 308 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 1: don't want to be asked for a tip at a 309 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 1: kiosk where I had to do all the work. It's 310 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: not it. It does have to stop. 311 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 2: It is a be and the only reason I can 312 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 2: come to is that it hasn't stopped is that people 313 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:21,360 Speaker 2: still do it and somehow the places they're making. 314 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: Money off of this. 315 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 3: It's our new normal, Tony. 316 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, you can do it, your new normal. Tell you 317 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: off the air, do it your normal. Eat drinks, smoke 318 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: it is your cigar, bourbon food, the extravaganza. I'm Tony Kats. 319 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 1: That's fingers from why you find everything at Eat Drinks, 320 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: Smoke show dot com. You're of the duke or is 321 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: it duque? 322 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 2: From Dunbart and Tobacco and Trust right here this five 323 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 2: by forty eight with the Habano rossatto Ecuadorian rapper, a 324 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 2: Mexican San Andreas, and the binder filler that's Nicka Roguin 325 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 2: and Pennsylvania broadleaf. All Right, I got a little une 326 00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 2: even of a burn here. It's probably my fault more 327 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 2: than any thing else. It's not a big deal. Into 328 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 2: the final third here five by forty eight, smaller a cigar, 329 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 2: you have no problem with the burn whatsoever. 330 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, you've talked me into it. 331 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 3: Just because of my experiences lately with cigars and a 332 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 3: lot of them being high maintenance. This has been a 333 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 3: delight to smoke. The flavor profile is nice. At seventeen 334 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 3: dollars a stick, I'm probably in. It's wood, there's a 335 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 3: little bit of cocoa, there's pepper. You mentioned it's getting 336 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 3: more tobacco forward as I go into the final third 337 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 3: of the cigar, and. 338 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:36,360 Speaker 1: No, I'm getting a little more spices. I go into 339 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 1: the cigar. It's wild. 340 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 3: So yeah, I think I'm in. I would not buy 341 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 3: a box of these, but I think I would have 342 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:44,919 Speaker 3: a couple in my humanity. 343 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,120 Speaker 2: But if I buy a box of these and then 344 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 2: we split it, okay, I do that. Yeah, I'd do that. 345 00:18:56,119 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 2: It's a nice stick, it is, and Dunbar and Steve's 346 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 2: soccer well done. Well played with this. 347 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 1: It's it. 348 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 2: It's it's not as spice forward as I really thought 349 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 2: it was going to be with the Habano Rosato Rapper, 350 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 2: but it's it's now at least present. 351 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 1: It's there, But that initial with the char and I keep. 352 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 2: Going back to this, which remind me a little bit 353 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 2: of of The Meat Lovers, the Red Meat Lovers that 354 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 2: he does, Steve Soka, Dunbart and Tobacco and Trust. 355 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: I like that. 356 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:34,959 Speaker 2: I'm gonna start searching that out. 357 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: Can I find cigars that have this little bit of char? 358 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: And You're like, Tony, do you mean burnt? 359 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 2: I wish I had a better way to kind of 360 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 2: explain it to people and and and present it to people, 361 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 2: but this is this is a nice it's a nice stick. 362 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 3: This is. 363 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. 364 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 3: Was the Red Meat Lover's a limited release or can 365 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 3: you still get I. 366 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:58,239 Speaker 2: Think you can still get it. If I remember Red 367 00:19:58,280 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 2: Meat Lovers with something that was only going to be 368 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:02,880 Speaker 2: a elbow. It was for an event that he was doing. 369 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 2: I don't know if it was in New Hampshire where 370 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 2: their home base is or somewhere else, and then so 371 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 2: many people liked it. 372 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:09,199 Speaker 1: He introduced it out right, it. 373 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 2: Was it was. 374 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 1: Was it for an event on a battleship. 375 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 2: I think it was where they serve steak this and 376 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 2: meet that and and everything else, And so I think 377 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 2: it was for that. And we are drinking the Jack 378 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 2: Daniels Sinatra coming in at ninety proof right here. 379 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 1: Now, I got a cube where I'm gonna dump it in. 380 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 2: It's it's it's it's got a lot of fruit to it, 381 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 2: a little bit of that traditional banana on the nose. 382 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: It's there. There's nothing wrong with it. It's just not 383 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 1: my flavor profile as it is neat. But I moved 384 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:49,360 Speaker 1: into a cube. You added a little bit of water 385 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: to yours. Let me let me go in here. 386 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,439 Speaker 3: He's going in ladies and gentlemen, and he's doing, uh 387 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 3: what we call this week the Sinatra swish. 388 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 1: Thank you very much. 389 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:03,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, it smoothed out a little bit, right, It's definitely 390 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 2: got a little bit smoother. I keep saying, is that 391 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 2: chocolate that I get dark chocolate? 392 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: You said, cherry. 393 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 2: I think there's something too there. I'm a little more 394 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:18,479 Speaker 2: just fruit in general going on. There's a little bit 395 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:22,439 Speaker 2: of richness, a touch of mouthfeel. But in the end, 396 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 2: and by the way, the ice on the cube a 397 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 2: little more oak, which I appreciate. This is not my 398 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 2: flavor profile. It's not my flavor profile. And one hundred 399 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:34,880 Speaker 2: and fifty five dollars a bottle. It is a one leader, 400 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 2: but one hundred and fifty five dollars a bottle. There 401 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 2: are Jack products for thirty two bucks. The triple mash 402 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 2: is what I'm thinking of. I would I would absolutely. 403 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 1: Do over this. 404 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 3: I just listen. I like this, but we're talking one 405 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 3: hundred and fifty dollars. I mean, I guess it's one 406 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 3: of those splurge bottles. It's cool to have. The box 407 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 3: is cool to have, yeah, you know, on your mantle. 408 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 3: But that's that's just it's two orch for my blood. 409 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 3: But now I'm going to go in. I took my 410 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:08,400 Speaker 3: eye drop it, and I took a couple of drops 411 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 3: of cool water, and I did not use a drop 412 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 3: or stop lying to people. 413 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: Stop that. Now, water will bring down proof. That's what 414 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: water does, and same thing with a cube. 415 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 2: But what it does is some flavors more pronounced, some heightened, 416 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 2: some a little more subdued, and that's why you got 417 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 2: try it and all the ways to see bourbon that 418 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 2: doesn't work if you unique could work for. 419 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: You in a cube and vice versa. 420 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 3: It brought out little bit more that kind of that 421 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:36,120 Speaker 3: baking spice, and to me, it enhanced the sting even more. 422 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 3: Really yeah, which I wasn't expecting. There's oak there, a 423 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 3: brown sugar like a cherry, like a dark cherry. 424 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: Listen. 425 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 3: I like it, I really do. This is just all 426 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 3: a value conversation. And when you could buy five bottles 427 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 3: of jack for one bottle of this, I just can't 428 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 3: do it. 429 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: There it is, that's all there is to it. Yeah, 430 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: for me, it is it is. There is a dollar conversation, 431 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: but it's just it's just not my it's not my juice. 432 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 1: And I feel bad. I feel bad, but honesty above everything. 433 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 3: This isn't going to get back to Sinatra, is it. 434 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: Well, he's watching right now. It's time fingers with LOI 435 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: for News of the week. 436 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 3: So I have a story from CNBC Tony that makes 437 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 3: absolutely no sense to me at all. Okay, because we 438 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,959 Speaker 3: have been talking for months now about the affordability crisis 439 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 3: and how people are struggling to pay their bills and afordability. Yes, 440 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 3: that's what people are saying. And yet CNBC reports that 441 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 3: there's research done by the black Rock Foundation and Commonwealth 442 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 3: that says since twenty twenty, the number of low and 443 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 3: moderate income investors has increased one hundred and sixty seven percent. 444 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 1: Wait stop, walk me back through it. This is from CNBC. 445 00:23:55,920 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 3: Yes, and this story reads that what now, since twenty twenty, 446 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 3: the number of low and moderate income investors has increased 447 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,160 Speaker 3: one hundred and sixty seven percent. 448 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 2: Okay, that's not data. Data has to come from the 449 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 2: follow up question. I do not know if it's in 450 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 2: the article. 451 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 1: I actually just pulled it up. What age group? What 452 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 1: age group are we talking about here? 453 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 2: Because low and moderate income investors who are gen Z 454 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 2: and just starting out in life, this is very very 455 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 2: interesting that they see. 456 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 1: Their economic future having. 457 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 2: One and they're seeing what the markets can do, whether 458 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 2: they're finding stuff on YouTube or on Instagram other places, 459 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 2: TikTok videos where they're getting advice, ideas, etc. Or Is 460 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 2: this is this gen X and boomers trying to engage 461 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 2: in some level of catch up thinking that they're going 462 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 2: to live for freaking Ever, it does not have from 463 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:09,159 Speaker 2: what I see here a breakdown as far as the 464 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 2: age of the investors. But what it does say is 465 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 2: the reasons why there is much more information out there 466 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 2: for people to make intelligent decisions on investing. And then 467 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 2: on top of it, there are many more avenues. 468 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 3: On which to invest, particularly through apps. May get much 469 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 3: easier for people to invest, but it's been. 470 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 2: Easier for the last twenty years. The apps have been there. 471 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 2: Fifteen years, they've been there and has been easier. So 472 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 2: you had said something to me the other day that 473 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,640 Speaker 2: you think maybe people are starting to have a little 474 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 2: more faith in the economy, that maybe some things have 475 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:50,159 Speaker 2: turned a quarter Now. I think that what has happened 476 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 2: with Iran changes all that. We should get into what's 477 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 2: going on with Iran, and certainly we can only give 478 00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 2: you the information we have now and not information that 479 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 2: might And this is a fluid, fluid situation. I would 480 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 2: like to think that that's true, because that's that's a 481 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 2: nice sign. I don't know if it necessarily is true, 482 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 2: but I would like to think that that's true. 483 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 3: You do you I buy that you see certain apps, 484 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 3: and I don't have the information on what apps they are. 485 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 3: Off off the top of my head or in front 486 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 3: of me, but where they'll even take when you make 487 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 3: a purchase, they'll round up and then take that money 488 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 3: and invest it so it may only be thirty cents. 489 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 3: You know, you spend six dollars and seventy cents on something, 490 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 3: they'll take thirty cents, roll it into an account and 491 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 3: over you know time. You know it's a little bit 492 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 3: of money here, a little bit of money there. But 493 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 3: if you are making several purchases a day, a week, 494 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 3: and a year, that does add up and accounts. 495 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 2: If if you're not teaching your kids about compounding, start 496 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 2: with anything and just keep at It's all you gotta do. 497 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 1: Just keep at it, don't look at it every day, 498 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 1: Just let it cook. Life will be good down the road. 499 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:19,159 Speaker 1: It will. We do Eat Drink Smoke to avoid the politics. 500 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 1: We started it this way. 501 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 2: We both do political radio myself in Indianapolis with a 502 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 2: morning show here and a nationally syndicated radio show Fingers 503 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 2: Maloy in Michigan, and we wanted Eat Drink Smoke to 504 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 2: be the break and the escape from that. But we 505 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,679 Speaker 2: also talk about what's being discussed in the cigar lounge, 506 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:45,400 Speaker 2: and the war in Iran is something that's being discussed 507 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 2: in the cigar lounge, So it's gonna get discussed here. 508 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 2: It's eat, drink, smoke. I'm Tony Katz. That's America's favorite 509 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 2: amateur drinker, Fingers Maloy. So this was early last weekend, 510 00:27:55,920 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 2: Saturday morning, the United States and Israel engaging in this 511 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 2: coordinated attack against the Iranian regime. You then had the 512 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 2: announcement from President Trump video announcement the Israeli state, absolutely 513 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 2: we are involved in this. You had forty high level 514 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 2: members of the Iranian regime taken out, the Ayatola, the Iola, Kammane, 515 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 2: what was killed. You had Iran pushing back and firing 516 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 2: at neighboring countries like Kuwait and Qatar, countries that would 517 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 2: normally possibly be on a rand side. 518 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 1: Well that ended. That is over. This has continued in. 519 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 2: The days ahead. Now as we are talking to you, 520 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 2: we only have limited information. It's only been a few days, 521 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 2: so things absolutely can change. But the real as we 522 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 2: bring this part of the story is not whether or 523 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 2: not we agree or disagree. If I'm asked, I'll tell 524 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 2: you what I think and if you ask me, I 525 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 2: do agree. But we can discuss that part of it later, 526 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 2: oil prices immediately shot up, immediately shot up. The markets 527 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 2: went all sorts of cattywampus, and it's kind of amazing 528 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 2: that you take a look at I think it was 529 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 2: a Tuesday. 530 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: The Dow went down twelve hundred points immediately, and then 531 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 1: it came back and it closed four unto points down. 532 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 1: And don't get me wrong, four under points down is 533 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: a real down. But I think the. 534 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 2: Story here is that there's still these these fluctuations, there's still. 535 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 1: This kind of feeling it out what it means. 536 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 2: And the oil prices went up per barrel. The Brent 537 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 2: crude was at eighty dollars a barrel. I'm sorry, the 538 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 2: Brent crude was at eighty seven dollars a barrel at 539 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 2: one moment that I saw this week. 540 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 1: It could be higher by now. 541 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 2: And then the West Texas crewed which comes out of 542 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 2: the ground, was at eighty dollars. The West Texas is 543 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 2: always a little less expensive than the Brent crude on 544 00:29:55,520 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 2: the barrel price. Gas prices have been coming down, and 545 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 2: if you want to take a look at popularity polls 546 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 2: and approval poles, Trump's popularity was going up because gas. 547 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: Prices had come down. This changes things. 548 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 2: So when you were seeing national averages that were getting 549 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 2: that two dollars and you know, the administration claims a 550 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 2: little bit lower, I would say it was a little 551 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 2: bit higher. 552 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 1: I think we're now going to see three dollars plus gas. 553 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 2: For a while, especially when you see oil refineries in 554 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 2: ryand in Saudi Arabia and other places that are offline 555 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 2: right now because they're dealing with these attacks that are 556 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 2: coming from Iran. And Iran and Saudi Arabia are not friends. 557 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 2: They have been in this fight for hegemonic power. The 558 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 2: whole civil war in Yemen is a proxy fight between 559 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 2: the Saudis and Iran via a group called the Huthi 560 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 2: Rebels h O U t Hi. 561 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 1: So there's no love lost there. 562 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 3: But the. 563 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 2: America's acceptance are not acceptance of this. And I'm calling 564 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 2: it a war. You can call it a conflict, call 565 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 2: it anything you will. I'm just using a more generic term. 566 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 2: Going to be based on whether or not it increases 567 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 2: their prices and for how long. I think that's how 568 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 2: people look. 569 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 3: At this, and also how many American service members end 570 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 3: up unfortunately losing their lives during this whole operation. Right, 571 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 3: But you know, it's it's strange that when this happened, 572 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 3: and especially because there was talk, you know, Iranian threats 573 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,719 Speaker 3: of cutting off the Strait of Hormos, which which may 574 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 3: still come in time you hear this, it may have happened. 575 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 3: Twenty percent of the world's oil supply flows through that strait. 576 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 3: You know, there used to be talk if that threat 577 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 3: ever happened, you'd see oil shoot up to one hundred 578 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 3: and fifty dollars a barrel. Of course, that hasn't happened, 579 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 3: but the threat has been there. I'm actually surprised that 580 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 3: at this point as we're speaking, that oil hasn't shot 581 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 3: up more than it has, especially with the attack on 582 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 3: the on the refineries that you were talking about, and 583 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 3: then you know, the threat of the Strait of horm 584 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 3: moves being closed, and some people have asked, how is. 585 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 2: That going to happen? The Strait of Hormone is there's 586 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 2: this little where the Persian Gulf is. It goes into 587 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 2: the Gulf of Oman. Look at the map, it's really interesting. 588 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 2: There's this jut out that takes place, and so it's 589 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 2: a very very thin bit of of area where these 590 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 2: massive ships are going around. 591 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 1: You put a couple of ships in their sideways. No 592 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 1: one's getting through. 593 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 2: And what the theory has been what the Iranians would 594 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 2: do is they would take some of their ships and 595 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 2: just think them boom right there. Now, the initial TAC 596 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 2: took out eleven ships out of the Iranian navy. Now 597 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 2: there are other ships, and there are the boats, and 598 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 2: are the things that they could do. They've gained planned this, 599 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 2: but they've also lost a tremendous amount of their leadership 600 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 2: and they may not be able to operate the way 601 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 2: they normally operated. But yeah, that is a huge one. 602 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 2: That is a huge one, not only an oil price, 603 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 2: but lives loss. 604 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 3: And the other thing that I think needs to be 605 00:32:56,240 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 3: talked about is how impressive it is that they were 606 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 3: able to pull out pull off this operation without any leaks. 607 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 3: I mean it everyone felt like this was coming, but 608 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 3: usually you're Hue whispers. 609 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 1: Hey it's it's coming. 610 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 3: Now, Hey we're going to see something this weekend. And 611 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 3: it really I felt even though there was a build up, 612 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 3: there was still talk of negotiations, and the fact that 613 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 3: it happened Saturday morning, I think caught a lot of 614 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 3: people off guard. And I think it's really impressive that 615 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 3: they were able to pull this off without any leaks. 616 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 1: Can I change the subject for one moment. Absolutely, you 617 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 1: have some cigar ash in your right eyebrow. Of course. 618 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 3: Oh some of us have a real passion and flair 619 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 3: for cigars. Tony, I was say, thank you, it's still 620 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 3: it's still, thank you. 621 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 2: It was. 622 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 1: It was totally freaking me out. I know it was serious, 623 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 1: but come on, come on. 624 00:33:56,000 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 2: The the ability as of late, and again, how however 625 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 2: you feel politically whatever for this Pentagon, the attack that 626 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 2: took out the nuclear facilities in Iran, total misdirection. What 627 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 2: the capture of Nicholas Maduro in Venezuela. These have been 628 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 2: incredible operations. 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