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Speaker 1: Indiana and Ohio State Big Ten Championship game coming up

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Speaker 1: Loucas Oil Stadium on Saturday night, and Graham ray Hall

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Speaker 1: has made I think eighteen indy five hundred starts. I

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Speaker 1: think he was like eighteen when he won his first

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Speaker 1: to IndyCar racing and mid Ohio and Buckeye lifestyle and

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Speaker 1: all of that. There are two things about IndyCar that

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Speaker 1: has that have made me nauseous. One is when I

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Speaker 1: very nauseous. And the other is anytime Graham ray Hall

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Speaker 1: starts talking about Ohio State, but he knows the Buckeyes

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Speaker 1: better than anybody, and I figured he would be the

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Speaker 1: perfect person to preview it. And he joins us now

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Speaker 1: on the Java House Peel and poor guest line Grammy

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Speaker 1: fired up for the game?

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Speaker 2: I am, brother, I am. You know.

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Speaker 3: I don't rub it into my I was rubbing it

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Speaker 3: in more to you when Clemson was was actually a

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Speaker 3: good football program.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, that's changed.

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Speaker 1: Brother, Listen, how about the beginning? And I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: go where we were on Opening Saturday, and you and

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Speaker 1: I are talking. I was in Nashville and Clemson's playing LSU,

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Speaker 1: and I'm saying, yeah, you know, this is they Clemson.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of expectation for him. And then they

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Speaker 1: go out and and it was just flat. And the

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Speaker 1: next day you come up to me and you go, well,

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Speaker 1: your defense is terrible and your quarterback I don't believe

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Speaker 1: in And I said, okay, well, other than that, I

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Speaker 1: know it was. It was a good scouting report, right

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Speaker 1: and then and you know, then we also, I think

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Speaker 1: both of us were kind of incredulous over arch Manning,

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Speaker 1: and maybe we didn't give enough credit to Ohio State's

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Speaker 1: a moment's too big for him, and that Ohio State

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Speaker 1: defense is obviously elite. Do you see that as the

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Speaker 1: biggest challenge for Indiana Saturday?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I think so. I mean, well, at first off, I.

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Speaker 3: Think it is super cool to see Indiana uh in

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Speaker 3: the position, and it's in fact, to me, the most

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Speaker 3: fascinating storyline that I've ever witnessed. I mean, I I

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Speaker 3: the rise of the program from the seller to you know,

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Speaker 3: in two years or even less, really is an unbelievable thing, right,

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Speaker 3: I mean, it is absolutely incredible what Signetti has done.

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Speaker 3: And but I do think that you know, Ohio State

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Speaker 3: on the whole this year, and we'll see what this

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Speaker 3: has been absolutely dominant in every facet of the game.

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Speaker 3: And if I could see one weakness in Indiana, it's

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Speaker 3: just that, you know, that Penn State game was a concern,

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Speaker 3: like you know, the Penn State deal. You know, I

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Speaker 3: really thought they werena blow Penn State out. Penn State

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Speaker 2: And they really didn't do that.

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Speaker 3: Right the the the the performance went really awe inspiring,

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Speaker 3: like like you may have thought. But at the end

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Speaker 3: But I do also think they're going to score points.

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Speaker 3: I don't think that this is going to be you know,

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Speaker 3: and that's not me saying as an arrogant fan. That's

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Speaker 1: Now, is that to say that you're admitting to being

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Speaker 2: Not a chance. Hey, I'll tell you this right now.

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Speaker 2: I'm not I'm confident this weekend. I'm not over confident

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Speaker 2: this weekend. You know, I don't. I think Indiana's got

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Speaker 3: Like most things you watch, there's gonna be a lot

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Speaker 2: I know that.

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Speaker 1: You know to me, Graham, and you're right. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Dude, I'm calling it right now. Jeorda is half.

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Speaker 3: They're They're not they are not that great. I'm telling

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Speaker 3: you right now. Alabama is overrated as hell. How Alabama

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Speaker 3: I actually don't think Oregon is that good. Now, this

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Speaker 3: is me going on my rant. I want a lot

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Speaker 3: And you know, to me, this weekend's matchup is just

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Speaker 3: I hope these teams don't get slighted by taking a loss.

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Speaker 2: You know, you you would hate to see it.

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying they're not going to make play, Clearly,

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Speaker 3: because they don't deserve it, right, They certainly shouldn't drop

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Speaker 3: that's basin on Georgia actually winning.

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Speaker 2: So you know, overall we'll see I suppose.

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Speaker 1: Graham in racing, Graham Rayhil's my guest, Java House Peel

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Speaker 1: it's the last twenty five laps of the race. Now,

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Speaker 1: let's turn up the wick. Let's get everything we have

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Speaker 1: Do you believe that, offensively speaking, that Ohio State is

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Speaker 1: there's still another level on the notch for the Buckeyes

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Speaker 3: Yes, So to answer the question, I have to be

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Speaker 2: I hear more.

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Speaker 3: I asked a buddy this very question earlier this year.

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Speaker 3: I said, I explain it to me. We're not putting

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Speaker 3: look flat out, the objective is simple. We want to

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Speaker 3: play one last game by the end of the year

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Speaker 3: than everybody else. We want to the play clock. We'll

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Speaker 3: move the ball, on the ball and count. That's number one, buddy.

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Speaker 3: He said, you remember the Penn State game. I said, yep,

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Speaker 3: I said, yep, he goes. That was fourth year. We

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Speaker 3: We knew we had to come out in the second

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Speaker 3: And that's precisely what we did. And you know, to me,

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Speaker 3: it's pretty damn pool to hear. I mean, that's what

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Speaker 3: Like they they are truly in control of what is

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Speaker 3: in control of the time of possession. I mean, dude,

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Speaker 3: look what they did in the mission. I mean, only

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Speaker 3: they beat them, but they didn't. They weren't trying to

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Speaker 3: run up the score clearly, but they had forty minutes

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Speaker 3: that's the thing that's going to be interesting as compared

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Speaker 3: paced team. They're gun slingers. Mendoza is going to try

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Speaker 3: They're a little bit of a faster pace of play typically,

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Speaker 3: and they're willing clearly to run up scores. Ohio State

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Speaker 3: this year is in the opposite mentality. Keep the score count,

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Speaker 1: Where is Ohio State from what you've seen, Graham, where

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Speaker 3: I think actually they're cornerbacks. They have you know, a

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Speaker 3: So I think, to me, that's what's you know, made

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Speaker 3: arguably the best safety in the country, and Caleb Downs,

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Speaker 3: he's the smart player. I think that ultimately will limit

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Speaker 3: But on the corners, I do think that, you know,

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Speaker 3: Ohio State can be susceptible to the crossing or else

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Speaker 3: to see how that, you know, plays out this weekend

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Speaker 3: with Mendoza obviously, you know, it's obviously a pretty pretty

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Speaker 1: If this were any other team but Ohio State, let's

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Speaker 1: this way, if Ohio State was allowed, if they said,

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Speaker 1: you know what, Ohio State, you're the defending national champion,

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Speaker 1: so we're going to let you sit out the Big

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Speaker 1: Ten game and pick the opponent for Indiana. And so

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Speaker 1: they just pick an opponent, Okay, And let's it's not Michigan, Oregon, whoever.

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Speaker 1: If it were anybody but Ohio State, would you be

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Speaker 2: Hell? Yeah, man, of course I would, absolutely.

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Speaker 1: Because it's mean of a second home or because of

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Speaker 3: Oh no, it's been home for an extended period of time,

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Speaker 3: You know, it's a it's a cool story. And you

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Speaker 1: And they both deserve it, for sure. Graham, Ray Hall,

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to say go bucks. I'm not going

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Speaker 6: Get some big time of creats that come in and

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Speaker 6: hopefully change that.

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Speaker 1: What do you anticipate in terms sam of trains for portal,

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Speaker 1: you know, the percent of players that may still be

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Speaker 1: departing the Purdue program, or do you think that there

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Speaker 1: is enough buy in of look, I want to be

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Speaker 1: here to try to build this thing.

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Speaker 6: Towards the end of the year, he started to see

442
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Speaker 6: some guys fall out of the rotation and some other

443
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Speaker 6: guys who were younger start getting more reps. And I

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Speaker 6: think that that was with the future in mind a

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Speaker 6: little bit. Now Purdue will say it was putting the

446
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Speaker 6: best product on the field to try to win every Saturday,

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Speaker 6: and sometimes that's true, but also when you're in a

448
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Speaker 6: situation that Purdue was in this year, you do have

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Speaker 6: to think about moving forward. So I do think that

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Speaker 6: there will be probably more retention than people would think

451
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Speaker 6: from a two and ten team because the guys that

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Speaker 6: they brought in the portal last year, and there were

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Speaker 6: a ton of them. I think it was eighty two

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Speaker 6: players overall between the signing class and transfers. A lot

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Speaker 6: of those guys were bought in with the mind that, hey,

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Speaker 6: if you get sophomores out of the portal, that's almost

457
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Speaker 6: as good as game a high school kid if you

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Speaker 6: can develop them for three years. And I imagine that

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Speaker 6: that was the plan. And now moving forward, you have

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Speaker 6: a lot of the same guys who now have a

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Speaker 6: your experience under their belt.

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Speaker 1: When you look stylistically, Sam, and then we'll get to

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Speaker 1: basketball here in a second, Sam King, my guest Lafayette

464
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Speaker 1: Journal and Courier covers Purdue Athletics for them on the

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Speaker 1: job of House Peel and poor guest line, Sam, when

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Speaker 1: you look stylistically at Purdue, you know, and this is

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Speaker 1: maybe the danger of branding or reputation. But I think

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Speaker 1: of college football today as a fast, in space game,

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Speaker 1: and I think of Purdue and the way that they played,

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Speaker 1: and in particular, what what Odum maybe did at UNLV

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Speaker 1: is a more grind out, smash mouth game can produce

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Speaker 1: stylistically compete in the Big Ten if they master that

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Speaker 1: style and don't become more of the in space speed

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Speaker 1: team or am I selling them short altogether?

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Speaker 6: I mean, I guess time will tell is the cop

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Speaker 6: out answer there. But you know, there's several ways to

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Speaker 6: win a football game, and I think because of what

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Speaker 6: Purdue had this year, it had to try to slow

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Speaker 6: games down and grind it out and make the games

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Speaker 6: shorter for the other team's offense. So that might be

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Speaker 6: what played a little bit into you know, running as

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Speaker 6: much as Purdue did and now is blacking running backs

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Speaker 6: right now. So they're going to have to find some

484
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Speaker 6: help there to to think about that style moving forward.

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Speaker 6: But we also saw the offense pull out some things

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Speaker 6: out of the back of tricks. You think back to

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Speaker 6: Notre Dame where Devin Makabe through a touchdown pass to

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Speaker 6: Ryan Brown, very conventional, but something that had been worked

489
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Speaker 6: on and didn't work in practice, it sounds like, but

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Speaker 6: it came through in a game setting and produce run

491
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Speaker 6: some other trick plays throughout the course of the year.

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Speaker 6: So I think, you know, it's going to adapt to

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Speaker 6: whatever kind of playmakers it has, and this year, just

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Speaker 6: with the makeup of the team, I think it felt

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Speaker 6: like his best interest was trying to just you know,

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Speaker 6: keep the other team's offense off the field as much

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Speaker 6: as possible.

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Speaker 1: Do you feel at this point, Sam, from a basketball standpoint,

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Speaker 1: Matt Painter is not afraid to play anybody. And you know,

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Speaker 1: Purdue in terms of their schedule when it comes to

501
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Speaker 1: selection Sunday, they're going to have a chock full of

502
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Speaker 1: you know on the left side where they show you know,

503
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Speaker 1: quality wins. They are got a lot of them already.

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Speaker 1: But do you feel that Purdue offensively has a versatility

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Speaker 1: about them where they can play different games depending on

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Speaker 1: who the opponent is or are they more this is

507
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Speaker 1: how we're going to play. We do it better than anybody.

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Speaker 1: Come and beat us if you can.

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Speaker 6: No, this team has more variety and versatility than I

510
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Speaker 6: think any team that Matt Painters had. Just when you

511
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Speaker 6: think of all of the different options available, and you

512
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Speaker 6: have the flexibility now with Trey Coffman wren Back at

513
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Speaker 6: the forth that he can move back and play center

514
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Speaker 6: against smaller lineups and things of that sort. And Oma

515
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Speaker 6: Mayer has proven to be capable point guard right away,

516
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Speaker 6: so you've kind of seen some mix where he's won

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Speaker 6: the point and Braden Smith's been kind of the two

518
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Speaker 6: guard or curling off screens and things like that. There's

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Speaker 6: a lot of different options here. Now you've got to

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Speaker 6: think of the big men as pastors a little bit too.

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Speaker 6: We've seen Ay Coffman Wrenn lobbing over the top. You know,

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Speaker 6: he's had that short push shot a lot last year

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Speaker 6: that sometimes now he's dropping out over the top for Ali,

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Speaker 6: you dunks for Daniel Jacobson or Oscar Cluff. Just a

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Speaker 6: ton of flexibility, and you're right. The schedule that pretty

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Speaker 6: played plays this year, I guess is all with March

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Speaker 6: in mind, and I think that it's going to be

528
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Speaker 6: as well as it as he can be. And I've

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Speaker 6: seen everything you want to see when you get to

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Speaker 6: the postseason.

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Speaker 1: Was last night the glass, let me rephrase that was

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Speaker 1: last night the high bar. Exception for Jakari Harris or

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Speaker 1: is this realistically who he can be for them? In

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Speaker 1: spot rolls over the course of the year. A guy

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Speaker 1: that comes in and plays, you know, half the minutes

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Speaker 1: off the bench, hits a couple of threes and gets

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Speaker 1: into double digits. Can they anticipate that on the regular.

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Speaker 6: I think this is more of what Jakari Harris was

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Speaker 6: going to be this year. I thought over the summer,

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Speaker 6: I thought JAKARIY Harris was produced most improved player and

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Speaker 6: honestly thought he had a chance to be a starter. CJ.

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Speaker 6: Cox obviouslyos a distinction, but you have to think of CJ.

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Speaker 6: Cox Carri Harris. In some ways, it's kind of like

544
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Speaker 6: one player, what do they give you combined and some knights.

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Speaker 6: It's going to be CJ. Cox's night. We saw against

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Speaker 6: Memphis in the Bahamas, So night's going to be Jakari

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Speaker 6: Harris's night, as it was last night. And I think

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Speaker 6: you roll with whichever guy is hit in shots or

549
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Speaker 6: playing better at the time for what you need. But yeah,

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Speaker 6: Jacuriy Harris is going to be a guy who probably

551
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Speaker 6: ends up at some point in his career averaging double figures.

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Speaker 6: And he's a much improved three point shooter. People think

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Speaker 6: of him last year as more of a lockdown perimeter defender,

554
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Speaker 6: but I think he has a lot of offensive style

555
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Speaker 6: to his game. Two that can help Produe just adds

556
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Speaker 6: more depth to an already deep team.

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Speaker 1: Boiler Makers already with a big ten win. They did

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Speaker 1: that last night at Rutgers. Now back Saturday at a conference,

559
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Speaker 1: and a big one. It is Iowa State coming up

560
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Speaker 1: for a noon start this weekend. Sam King will have

561
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Speaker 1: all of it covered for the Lafayette Journal and Courier.

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Speaker 1: Sam appreciate the time as always, man, look forward to.

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Speaker 2: Talking to you again absolutely anytime.

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Speaker 1: I'd Sam King joining us on the Joba House Peel

565
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Speaker 1: and Poor Guest line. So I'm going to be at

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Speaker 1: Bankley's at five o'clock tonight, right five to seven, apparently

567
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Speaker 1: Jake five until seven as part of Mick Ultra. Come out,

568
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Speaker 1: do a little Papa shot, and then after that I'll

569
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Speaker 1: be heading out of the Pacer game. I think I

570
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Speaker 1: know I'm going to the game, but five pm Bankley's tonight.

571
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Speaker 1: I love Bankley's awesome place. Look forward to seeing everybody

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Speaker 1: there for that. So are you a good Papa shot guy, Eddie?

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure? Thank you for bringing that up. By

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Speaker 1: the way, Welome Joel a Eericson joins us now on

575
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Speaker 1: the Java House Peel and Port guest line. Joeli, you

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Speaker 1: a good papa shot guy.

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Speaker 4: I'm excellent. I'm an excellent player.

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Speaker 1: I mean that was not even a hesitation.

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Speaker 6: No.

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Speaker 4: The last time, the last time that we were in

581
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Speaker 4: an arcade with my kids, they got mad at me

582
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Speaker 4: because we got to the end and I had way

583
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Speaker 4: more tickets than them because I just kept doing the

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Speaker 4: papa shot.

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Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough. Do you do the moving papa shot

586
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Speaker 1: or just the standard papa shot.

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Speaker 4: Both? Well, usually there's just like one papa shot thing

588
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Speaker 4: in there, so you're kind of at the mercy of

589
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Speaker 4: whatever the arcade wanted to put.

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Speaker 1: In there, because there are times, you know, they have

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Speaker 1: the papa shots where the goal is moving back and forth,

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Speaker 1: and that's kind of what it seemed like Michael Bagley

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Speaker 1: was looking at in terms of extra points, right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it really is, because, like you know, you ask

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Speaker 4: the question whenever a guy's missing extra points, like is

596
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Speaker 4: there anything specific, And at one point Brian Mason said, well,

597
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Speaker 4: he missed the first one left and he missed the

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Speaker 4: second one right, So no, they're not the they're not

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Speaker 4: the same. And then this last one he kind of

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Speaker 4: just slammed, kind of like when you pull your driver

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Speaker 4: and don't you don't look it, you just pull it

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Speaker 4: directly down the fairway into a tree.

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Speaker 1: I know that feeling all too well. Let's get to this, Joel.

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Speaker 1: It's unfortunate because the kicker is a relatively unless you

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Speaker 1: have an elite one, it can be kind of interchangeable position.

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Speaker 1: And it's only noteworthy when you make a kicking change

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Speaker 1: late in the year, when I shouldn't say it's only

608
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Speaker 1: noteworthy win, but it becomes more noteworthy when one of

609
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Speaker 1: the greatest kickers in the history of the game is

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Speaker 1: a guy that you brought in and you decided not

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Speaker 1: to go with. And I had forgotten about this, and

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Speaker 1: I want you to tell me if you think this

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Speaker 1: was a factor. Justin Tucker is a guy that has

614
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Speaker 1: been a very, very good kicker in the National Football League. Undoubtedly,

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Speaker 1: he was never criminally nor civilly charged with allegations of

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Speaker 1: inappropriate behavior with massage therapists and sexual harassment. Essentially, he

617
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Speaker 1: was never charged with that, but the NFL did their

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Speaker 1: own investigation suspended him ten games do you believe and

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Speaker 1: I would totally understand and support this, but do you

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Speaker 1: believe the Indianapolis Colts being led by an ownership group

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Speaker 1: of women factored into why he was not signed?

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Speaker 4: No? Real, I really don't know, because the thing is,

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Speaker 4: like I would think that in that case, if it

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Speaker 4: played a role in him not being signed, I would

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Speaker 4: have thought that he wouldn't even bring him into the tryout,

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Speaker 4: you know, if it was if the stance was that

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Speaker 4: strong against you know, the allegations at sixteen it's not

628
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Speaker 4: therapist in the Baltimore area made I always thought you

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Speaker 4: wouldn't have brought him into the tryout. I really don't

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Speaker 4: have any necessarily any thought of or answer to go

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Speaker 4: on based on prior history of whether or not that

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Speaker 4: would have played.

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Speaker 1: A role with the kicker that they end up going

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Speaker 1: up with. What can you tell us about him?

635
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Speaker 2: Blake Groupy, he's got a bigger.

636
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Speaker 4: Leg than Michael Badgley. The idea that like he's you know,

637
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Speaker 4: he's a guy who's kicked I think either fifteen or

638
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Speaker 4: sixteen kicks that he's made from fifteen plus yards now

639
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Speaker 4: he's missed. The trade off here is that he's missed

640
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Speaker 4: a significant amount of field goals in his career too,

641
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Speaker 4: especially this season, but he does have a bigger leg

642
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Speaker 4: coming into this year. I think he was supposed to

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Speaker 4: be the Saints franchise kicker, and I know in New

644
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Speaker 4: Orleans they were a little bit surprised when the Saints

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Speaker 4: who leaves him, Not because he was not because they

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Speaker 4: thought he was kicking better than the Saints did, but

647
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Speaker 4: just because what did the Saints have to lose by

648
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Speaker 4: keeping a young kicker who's struggling? You know, I think

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Speaker 4: I think that the biggest thing the Colts are betting

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Speaker 4: on here. It's just that Brian Mason knows him, He's

651
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Speaker 4: worked with him before in a at a time of

652
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 4: year when any kicker you bring in is some level

653
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 4: of uncertain I think they're kind of betting on that

654
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 4: familiarity to kind of get Groupy back to something closer

655
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 4: to what he was last year, when he was a

656
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 4: solid NFL kicker.

657
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 1: Joel, Do we know yet when? Maybe it's irrelevant now,

658
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 1: I guess, but I guess it could give us indication

659
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 1: as to how long he's been playing with this and

660
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 1: what we can anticipate moving forward. Do we know when

661
00:31:58,440 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones got hurt.

662
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 4: He says that he felt it for the first time

663
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 4: on that Thursday when he got placed on an injury report.

664
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Speaker 4: There was an answer where he said something to the

665
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 4: effect of something that's been hanging around, but he didn't

666
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 4: really say much more than that. So, yeah, we don't

667
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 4: actually know when exactly Daniel Jones got hurt.

668
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Speaker 1: So do you believe that Jones in terms of his maneuverability?

669
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Speaker 1: Have we now seen the ceiling for this year in

670
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Speaker 1: terms of pocket maneuverability and escapability of Daniel Jones.

671
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Speaker 4: I guess my understanding is that the Colts and Jones

672
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 4: both believe that this can heal well. He's playing and

673
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Speaker 4: I know what that sounds like because in my head,

674
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 4: how but I don't. Also, I'm also not a I'm

675
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 4: also not somebody who's ever really dealt with the fraction

676
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 4: in fibula that someone's playing through before. I don't have

677
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 4: a I don't have a I try to keep like

678
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 4: a not necessarily like an actual on my computer or anything,

679
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 4: but I try to keep a file in my brain

680
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 4: of injuries that I've covered before the guys have played

681
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 4: through or didn't play through. I don't remember ever having

682
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 4: a fibula injury like this, so I don't know. And

683
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 4: the other thing is like, there's also the piece of

684
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 4: this where they say, well, they don't think he can

685
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 4: hurt it worse by playing. That also seems crazy, But

686
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 4: you know, I don't know, but they would know more

687
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 4: than I would.

688
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 1: Joel Erickson is our guest Indianapols star is on the

689
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 1: Joba House Peel and poor guest line. You're around this team.

690
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 1: You are, and I know what it's like when you're

691
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 1: when you're a beat guy. Meaning for those that don't know,

692
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 1: and I think most know this by now. You are

693
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 1: at every media availability you know, you and and everybody

694
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: within the local media here. You are there on the

695
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 1: available days during the course of the week. You're there

696
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 1: after games, you're there before games, et cetera. Have you seen,

697
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 1: in any way, shape or form, any change of persona

698
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 1: or approach or mentality of this team from now versus

699
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 1: a month ago. As things have started to get a

700
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 1: little bit tighter and the pucker factor for fans has increased.

701
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 4: The locker room on Sunday felt different than previous losses.

702
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 4: The locker room postgame felt different than previous losses. It

703
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 4: was a little bit more tight lip divert wiing to

704
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,240
Speaker 4: say as much, but then when when we got there today,

705
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 4: it felt like to me that that they've bounced back

706
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 4: for the most part to what we've seen before from

707
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 4: the team. So if if there, I don't I don't

708
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 4: think that the the team itself seals the same pucker

709
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 4: factor that you're talking because that's that's definitely there within

710
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 4: the fan base. I think, you know, those of us

711
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 4: who cover the team or looking at the schedule and going, well,

712
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 4: you guys don't win in Jacksonville, if Seattle's looming after that,

713
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 4: you got this difficult schedule, you can see how it

714
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 4: could go bad really really quickly. I don't think that

715
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 4: the Colts are in the same are in the same spot.

716
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 4: I you know, I actually was thinking about that today

717
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 4: and he was just kind of saying, like, I think

718
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 4: we've all heard this from really not just football players,

719
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 4: but like any athlete. I feel like anytime they're asked about, hey,

720
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 4: things are going bad, how do you step back out

721
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,479
Speaker 4: of it? They always say like, it's just you don't

722
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 4: dwell on that stuff. I think the hard part for

723
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 4: us is you know that as a fan and as

724
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 4: a as a media member like that. We are we

725
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 4: do dwell on that stuff, and so the idea that

726
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,839
Speaker 4: you could somehow just fit out of that and get

727
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 4: into your India preparation is kind of hard for us

728
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:52,320
Speaker 4: to fathom.

729
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 1: Joel. Jacksonville is a team that you know down there

730
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 1: has been a boogaboo for the Colts. It's been like

731
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 1: the Bermuda Did you believe in the Bermuda Triangle when

732
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 1: you were a kiddel.

733
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 4: I don't remember if I remember if I believed in

734
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 4: it or not, but I definitely believe that Jacksonville's cursed.

735
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 4: That's the only explanation for some of these results that

736
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,439
Speaker 4: have happened over the last however many years.

737
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 1: I mean, it is bizarre, right, and yet Jacksonville now

738
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 1: is starting to almost quietly and you know, without a

739
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: lot of fanfare, to it play better, play more competently.

740
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 1: What do we know or in terms of talking to

741
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 1: the culture Shane Steichen, what do we anticipate out of

742
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 1: Jacksonville of what challenges they create?

743
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 4: Well, I think the biggest one that Colts fans need

744
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 4: to get their head around right now going into it

745
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,879
Speaker 4: is that their run defense is very, very very good.

746
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,919
Speaker 4: Their first in the league in rushing yards allowed. Their

747
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,399
Speaker 4: yards per carry is not quite the same, but it's

748
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 4: still eight. I was looking at some of the advanced

749
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 4: stats on next Gen Stats. They're they're close at or

750
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 4: close to the top in all of those. The running

751
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 4: game not really being as efficient or as explosive has

752
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 4: played a pretty significant role in all three of the

753
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,879
Speaker 4: losses in the last four games. I think that's one thing.

754
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 4: You know, so much of the conversation on the team is,

755
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 4: you know, just handing to Jonathan Taylor on every play

756
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 4: and it'll be fine. This is this is just looking

757
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 4: at their statistical profile. This is a game that feels

758
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 4: like they need to throw and get to Taylor later.

759
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 4: So I think that's one thing specifically. They didn't see

760
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 4: that today, but I was. I was I doing my

761
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 4: game preview that we run on Sundays. I do most

762
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 4: of it on Tuesday, and I was looking at yesterday

763
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 4: I was. It just stuck out to me that this

764
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 4: is a team that just looking at the numbers you

765
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 4: throw on you don't run.

766
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Speaker 1: You know, one of the things that was more prevalent

767
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 1: a year ago. And I get it. Jonathan Taylor is

768
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 1: I mean, this guy is a potential carry on my

769
00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: back level running back. I get it, Joel Okay, but

770
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 1: if I were going to nitpick something offensively, it seemed

771
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 1: like a year ago they did use more of backs

772
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 1: aside from Jonathan Taylor, even in like the short passing

773
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 1: game or just spelling him from time to time or

774
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: keeping balance within their running game. Have they completely abandoned that,

775
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: and if so, does it tell us more about Jonathan Taylor,

776
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 1: about or about Shane Steichen's belief or lack thereof in

777
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:28,839
Speaker 1: those that are underneath them.

778
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 4: I I they essentially do play. They play Taylor on

779
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:38,280
Speaker 4: almost every snap, and that's that's that's not really common

780
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 4: around the NFL. Most teams, even the Eagles with Saquon Barkley,

781
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 4: you see Kenneth Stanwell in the game. Sometimes you don't

782
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 4: really see that with the Colts. We've asked Psychin about

783
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 4: that over kind of over two years now, and I

784
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 4: think it just comes down to you. They feel like

785
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 4: any carry that you don't give to Jonathan Taylor that

786
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 4: might have been the carry that he was going to

787
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 4: do what he did in Berlin and turned something that

788
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 4: looks like nothing into an eighty three yard touchdown. I

789
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 4: think like that's That's kind of what we keep getting

790
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 4: back from them is just you know, we've got twenty

791
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 4: eight back there. That's who we want to run the ball.

792
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 4: Like they've even you know, kind of I think he's

793
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 4: even said that about like, you know, they haven't really

794
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 4: run Daniel Jones very much. It's like, well, they've got

795
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 4: Jonathon Taylor if you want to see run the.

796
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 1: Ball, Joe. One question that I guess now is the

797
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 1: time to start looking at it. Somebody asked me this

798
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,439
Speaker 1: earlier today. I think Rakestraw asked me this earlier today.

799
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,439
Speaker 1: I thought it was a good question, and I'll pose

800
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:38,439
Speaker 1: it to you. I've resigned myself to the fact now

801
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 1: that and I think it makes sense when you have

802
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: Alec Pierce that is going into free agency and that's

803
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 1: going to be a priority. He's become their number one guy.

804
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 1: Adie mitchells now in New York, So you can't necessarily

805
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 1: elevate like the position each guy a level here. So

806
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: if they go and they franchise Daniel Jones, which I

807
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 1: think they will do because they want to free up

808
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 1: money in particular for Alec Pierce, you got to address

809
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:07,879
Speaker 1: that first. But if they franchise Daniel Jones. Does that

810
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,360
Speaker 1: tell us it's because they simply are doing it to

811
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 1: give themselves financial flexibility to shore elsewhere, or is it

812
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 1: because they are buying themselves that much more time to

813
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,879
Speaker 1: figure out whether or not he is the multi year guy.

814
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 4: I think the next five games will tell us that.

815
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,399
Speaker 4: I think I think that, you know, whatever happens down

816
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 4: the stretch, he is going to tell us that because

817
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 4: I know that the cold steel like he has played

818
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 4: better over this stretch than than the numbers necessarily say

819
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 4: he has. But I do think, you know, it's impossible

820
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 4: to ignore the fact that they've lost three or four.

821
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 4: You know, there were turnovers early, there have been some

822
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 4: incompletions later on. Again, I thought, I thought in his

823
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 4: last game he played pretty well, But like it's just

824
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 4: the totality of the of the four game stretch, there's

825
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,479
Speaker 4: there's some reason for worry. I really think this last

826
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 4: five games, whatever happens in this last five games, is

827
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 4: going to tell us when, if when they make that

828
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 4: move to franchise Tim, what their intentions might be.

829
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 1: Joel A. Eericson Indianapolis Star Java House Peel and Poor

830
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 1: guest line, This is by far the most professional interview.

831
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 1: We've done with you, by the way, are you disappointed?

832
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 4: Uh? Well no, you guys. You guys. Opened opened the

833
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 4: segment by playing in the the bumper music was the

834
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 4: third down music from when I was at Missouri. So

835
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 4: I'm I'm feeling like really.

836
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 1: Good the whole time, Eddie. Was that true? Was that?

837
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 1: My intention? Did not even know that?

838
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 2: Now?

839
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 1: What what song was it?

840
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 2: Again?

841
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 4: Uh? It's h.

842
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 2: Is it?

843
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 4: Ram jam Is that what it's called?

844
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 1: That was Black Betty by Ram Jamson Betty?

845
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, Ram dam It's the band.

846
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 1: That was in the movie Blow Right? Is that right?

847
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 4: I think I've only seen blow one.

848
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 1: Okay, well probably in some aspects that that's that's a

849
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: smart thing. All right, Joel, appreciate it.

850
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 4: Man.

851
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 1: We'll talk to you soon, all right, you bet. Joela

852
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:10,280
Speaker 1: ericson joining us on the program.