1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:01,200 Speaker 1: Well, we beat Google. 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 2: We beat Google. How does one even do that? 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: Would you prefer ding dong? The Googles dead? 4 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:13,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, Google has withdrawn its petition to rezone those four 5 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 3: hundred and sixty acres of farmland in Franklin Township. 6 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:19,600 Speaker 1: Now, look, okay, so let's kind of reset everything for everybody, 7 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:21,440 Speaker 1: and then we'll get to the meat potatoes. What happened 8 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 1: last night? I sume most people know at this point. 9 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: We've talked about this at nauseum, but we have new 10 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: people coming in all the time. Okay. So Google was 11 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: attempting to build a one billion dollar a massive data 12 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: center in Franklin Township in Indianapolis. That's Beech Grove down 13 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: to the tip of Greenwood, that area of the city. 14 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 1: It was hundreds of acres of farmland they were going 15 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: to occupy, and it had made it past the Planning 16 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: Commission in the City of Indianapolis, and their final hurdle 17 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: was to get an affirmative vote from the Indianapolis City 18 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: County Council. Now, the injury had been because of an 19 00:00:56,520 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: outrage by the residents not just of Franklin Township, but 20 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: the entire city and the surrounding areas and much of that. Look, 21 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: those people were amazing that led the charge in that. 22 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 1: But and I posted this last night and everybody pretty 23 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 1: much agreed. Do not underscore the role that really conservative 24 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: media played in this US by us, I'm saying WIBC 25 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:28,559 Speaker 1: across the board hammer Nigel Us. Jacob Stewart at Indie 26 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: Star wrote about this whole bunch, And one guy who 27 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: deserves a lot of credit for this who put a 28 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: lot of info out is Indie reporter or Pal Stephen Whitmer. 29 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: Everybody should totally follow that account at Indie Underscore reporter 30 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: Underscore on Twitter. And the information that got out because 31 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: of that really motivated people. And I think to it, 32 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: and I can't tell you the amount of people already 33 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: who have said congratulations on beating Google. And it was like, well, sure, 34 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: why think you all, I'll put that little feather in 35 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: my cat right. 36 00:01:59,080 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 2: We did? 37 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: Yes. So, So the setup to this is they have 38 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:08,519 Speaker 1: this final vote at the City County Council. They had 39 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: walked in Google had walked in without having the votes 40 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: if the vote had failed, so they need to get fourteen. No, 41 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, they needed to get fifte. No, they need 42 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:20,959 Speaker 1: to get fourteen because of the way the vote was 43 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:22,519 Speaker 1: going to work, they need to get fourteen to twenty 44 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: five councilors on board. They did not have the votes 45 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 1: to do that, and so before a vote could be had, 46 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: the petition was pulled. 47 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 2: It was withdrawn. 48 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: Yes, So the reason Google did that is if had 49 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: there been a vote and it failed, they could not 50 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: have come back for one year. Now they have essentially 51 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: two weeks to either pull the petition from the Planning 52 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 1: commission level, which then they can't come back for three months, 53 00:02:55,480 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 1: or it buys them a them two weeks to try 54 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: to convince two counselors at the city county council level 55 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: to flip their vote. So basically they're stalling for time 56 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 1: at this point. 57 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,079 Speaker 2: That's it, exactly. It's not over right. 58 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 3: So a future hearing on the rezoning it could still 59 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 3: happen on October sixth, this unless Google submits that formal withdrawal. So, 60 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 3: like you mentioned, what they did last night was just 61 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 3: bought themselves more time. 62 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 2: And what are they going to do with that time? 63 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 3: They're going to what try to convince some counselors to 64 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 3: vote the way they want. 65 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: Well, and look it came out with the thing with 66 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: the Franklin Township School System. Google's doing all sorts of 67 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: things behind the scenes to try to sway these influencers 68 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: to get people to yes on this. The problem is, 69 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: and you know, we talked about this when James Briggs 70 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: and Jacob Stewart from the Indie Star were in the 71 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: Communist from the Star were in and they had their 72 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: little spirited back and forth about this, and Briggs, who 73 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: is in favor of the project, said in James, and 74 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: I don't think you might be sharing this. We're texting 75 00:03:56,280 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: about this earlier today that both Google and State has 76 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: done a horrible job of explaining to residents how this 77 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: will benefit them. All we know is Google's getting a 78 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: bunch of incentives and abatements, et cetera. And there's no 79 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 1: clear there's no clear document that says, hey, here's how 80 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:25,679 Speaker 1: much each entity is gonna benefit, here's exactly what we're doing. 81 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 1: Here's why this is in your best interest. Because don't 82 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: forget the IEDC, the Indian Economic Development Corporation is inserted 83 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: in the middle of this, this shadow quasi government entity 84 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 1: that was giving away all sorts of freebies for Google 85 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: to come and people were just like, eh, this we 86 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 1: have seen enough of these things go up. We're hearing 87 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: what they may do in terms of the power, the electricity, 88 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,479 Speaker 1: the water, and we don't see a benefit to take 89 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 1: that risk. And that's why the outcry was so overwhelming 90 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 1: by the public throughout the past several months. 91 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 3: Now. The Franklin Township School Corporation they did support the 92 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 3: project because Google has offered some financial incentives to the 93 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 3: school corporate, which. 94 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: You don't know exactly what they are because you don't 95 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: get to know until the rubber meets the road on 96 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 1: all of this, so it wasn't abundantly clear exactly what 97 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: the incentives were. And this is another example of people 98 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: being going out of their way to be anti transparent. 99 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 1: And so my question would be to Susie Javarowski, the 100 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: Energy secretary, who said these data centers and windmill and 101 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: solar projects should sue municipalities who quote unquote drag them along. 102 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: Is this dragging them along? Would you say that Google 103 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: should now sue the city of Indianapolis, Susie, because the 104 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 1: elected officials heard an overwhelming outcry from their their taxpayers. 105 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 2: So no lots of people gathered at that meeting last night. 106 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: Does Bronze cabinet member believe. Does the governor believe, because 107 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 1: she's his voice on the topic, does he believe that 108 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: that Google should now sue the City of indianaplis because 109 00:05:56,760 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: they're quot unquote drug along Or did the process work 110 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: the way the process has always worked? And the ultimate 111 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: say is the elected official who is the only person 112 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:08,559 Speaker 1: at any of this process who's actually accountable to the voters. 113 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, So what did Mayor Joe Hogseett do. He 114 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 3: responded to the withdrawal, and he praised Indianapolis as a 115 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 3: city of growth and innovation. He respected Google's decision, but 116 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 3: he reaffirmed the city's commitment to attract investments it would 117 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 3: create jobs and also support economic development. So if it 118 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 3: doesn't happen in Franklin Township, is Google just gonna go 119 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:36,359 Speaker 3: to the next city over and try again. 120 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: Sure, they're alread trying it in Martinsville. We've already had 121 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: the folks on the show. There's another one they're trying 122 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 1: to do in Martinsville. This is what I'm telling everyone. 123 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 1: These data center people, whether it's Google or many of 124 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: the others, they're like Jason Borhees, they're horror movie characters. 125 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: You can burn them. You can bury them at sea, 126 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: you can put them in a cavern underground, can you 127 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: can whatever, you can chop them in half. They're gonna 128 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,359 Speaker 1: come back. There's going to be another episode. They're not 129 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: giving up, and so some people were like, can't we 130 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: just have this one. By the way, we have the 131 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: audio of Michael Paul Hart telling the this was. 132 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 2: When the attorneys got up gathered their paper. 133 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no no. So there was a clip Jim Sullivan, 134 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: who is a long time Indianapolis you know kind of 135 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: political figure is a strong word, but involved in Indianapolis 136 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: politics and government. He played this clip and it was great. 137 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: I wish we had it. I thought we had it 138 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: for the show. Michael Paul Hart, who's a city do 139 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: we have it? 140 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 2: Yeah? 141 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: Okay. So Michael Paul Hart, who is the Republican well 142 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: he was, he got kicked out for being too mean 143 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: to hog Set, but was the Republican leader of the 144 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: city County Council, tells the people this is his district, 145 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: that this is going on. He tells the people that 146 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: Google is pulling the petition and listen to this response. Evening, 147 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: I just want to give you a quick update. I 148 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: was given notice by our council attorney that Google is 149 00:07:49,760 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: withdrawing their petition. Okay, I mean that, And good on 150 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: Michael Paul Hart, who did lead the charge on this 151 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: from this city county council perspective. My thing to him 152 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: and the restless people is, now do this with everything 153 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: hog set Where was Hawks that during the riots? You 154 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: might find out you've just proven you can beat the guy. 155 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 2: You want something. 156 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: Keep going, Thomas Carl Cook stuff. Do this with that. 157 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: You guys can accomplish this. It's like Fred krueger Man. 158 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: If you just walk away and say Hawks, it doesn't exist. 159 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: You can do whatever you want to do. But a 160 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: big win, not just for the city of Indianapolis, the 161 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 1: people of Franklin Township, but hopefully a big win for 162 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: the people across the state of Indiana who now know 163 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: if you organize and if you engage properly, you can 164 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: stop these things. 165 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 3: Now, let's talk about the problem here the future, because 166 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 3: what's gonna happen is Google's just gonna hope everybody gets 167 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 3: disinterested in this over the next couple of weeks and 168 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,679 Speaker 3: come back and nobody's there this time. 169 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, So again, let's repeat that Google now has two 170 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: options with this. They can officially pull the petition, in 171 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 1: which case they will have to wait three months to refile, 172 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: and then they'll go through the process again. Now, what 173 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:18,719 Speaker 1: it wasn't clear to me was if they have to 174 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: go back through the Planning Commission again, or they just 175 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: can go directly back to the council if they can 176 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: bypass the Planning Commission, not that that seems like it's 177 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: much of a hurdle for them to do. Or they 178 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: can spend two weeks trying to get two councilors to yes, 179 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: and then they can bring it back by October sixth 180 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 1: to the City Kenny Council and have it voted on 181 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: and if it's approved, then it we go forward. So 182 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: again I just want to tell everybody great, enjoy your 183 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: evening last night. Your work starts again today if you 184 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: don't want this thing, because these guys they are not 185 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 1: like going to be like they're coming back. But the 186 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: biggest takeaway is we beat Google. Yeah, Kennelly Casey beat Google. 187 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 2: It is Kennelly Casey on ninety three WIBC. 188 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 1: Okay, look, if I've never been banned from the radio, 189 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: he got to really try hard. To actually get banned 190 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: right or suspended right well, from any sort of you know, 191 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: public air broadcasting. 192 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 3: I think your bosses could suspend you pretty easily, especially 193 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 3: if you said one of the magic words. 194 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 2: That got a big fine. That would do it. 195 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:23,439 Speaker 1: Okay, So we're talking about it's Kittle case show and 196 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: Rob that's Casey. We're talking about Jimmy Kimmel. If you 197 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: hadn't heard what he's he's back tonight. Is that right? 198 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 2: Yes, he is returning to the air tonight. 199 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: That was one heck of a suspension. Did that even 200 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: last a week? 201 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a five days. 202 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 3: ABC said that they had thoughtful conversations with Kimmel before 203 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 3: deciding to reinstate him. He was suspended indefinitely last Wednesday 204 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 3: after he made some controversial comments about Charlie Kirk's assassination. 205 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 3: But yes, he will be back tonight. However, he won't 206 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 3: be back everywhere. Sinclair Broadcast Group, which owns thirty one 207 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 3: ABC affiliates, they say they're not going to be airing 208 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 3: his show tonight and instead they're going to broadcast news. 209 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 1: You're a TV person former, Yes, you still should be 210 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,839 Speaker 1: on TV. Thanks you and Phil Sanchez would do a 211 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:11,439 Speaker 1: great program together. That not on any way dispersing the 212 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: people currently doing programs with Phil Sanchez. But I've always 213 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 1: thought you would make a great team. How big of 214 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: a deal if I like baseball enough? How big a 215 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: deal is thirty one television stations in terms of the 216 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: like landscape? 217 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 2: Is it like thirty one markets? 218 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, don't don't let the door hit you. Where the 219 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: good Lord split you. It's an airport. It's not an airport. 220 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: You don't need to announce your departure. Or they're like, oh, shoot, 221 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: that's really gonna hurt us, And well, no. 222 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 3: I think that would. That's really that's something. It really 223 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 3: depends on the markets that they're. 224 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: I'm asking you like that. 225 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 3: I don't know exactly which markets the ABC affiliates are in. 226 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 3: For example, the television station that I formerly worked at 227 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 3: was a Sinclair Group. 228 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 1: Okay, so however I. 229 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:53,959 Speaker 2: Was on a Fox, not on ABC. 230 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: I get it. But I'm trying to put this in 231 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: perspective for audience. So let's just say, just look, some 232 00:11:58,320 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 1: we're gonna be bigger, so some we're gonna be smaller. 233 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: But let's say it was thirty one South Bins. Let's 234 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 1: say you lost Let's say the average market they're in 235 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: is South Bend, Indiana. Would that at all motivate or 236 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: move how ABC programs if thirty one South Bend said 237 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: we're out? 238 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean it is what the second largest 239 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:18,719 Speaker 3: television group. 240 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 1: In the countries, so they do have some influence. 241 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, Okay, they've got some. 242 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: But there's some reason they've decided to bring this guy back. 243 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 3: Now. 244 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: Carl Tony's producer that are known as Conspiracy Carl has 245 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: his own little program that he does, Conspiracy Carl's Corner 246 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 1: with Ethan believes that the fix is in and this 247 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 1: whole thing was planned, and that they're doing this just 248 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: to get like a hit for Jimmy Kimmel, Like this 249 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: whole thing publicity is designed to give him a bump 250 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: because otherwise nobody's watching Kimmel and now people like, ooh, 251 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: I wonder what he's gonna say. And I don't necessarily 252 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 1: rule that out. My question just be Okay, so somebody 253 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: watches him the first night back and the show still stinks, 254 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: then yeah, you got to. 255 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 2: Come back to Sunway right. Well, you had I don't know. 256 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 3: Four hundred plus Hollywood figures signing some big letter defending 257 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:11,079 Speaker 3: free speech and demanding that Kim will come back. And 258 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 3: so he's coming back, and then he'll be on there tonight. 259 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 3: Well guess what he's got to produce again Wednesday night? Yeah, 260 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 3: and then Thursday night and then Friday night. Oh, and 261 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 3: then next week and then the week after that, and 262 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 3: the week after that and on. 263 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 2: And on and on and on. 264 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:28,839 Speaker 1: Right. So, I don't know, it is interesting that that 265 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: that could be what I guess it would determined. Did 266 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 1: Kim will get paid while he was quote unquote suspending 267 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: because he ain't giving up no money. If it was all, 268 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: you know, if they were all in on the you know, 269 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: the work together or whatever. Here's the point of all 270 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 1: of this. Society will still police it whether Kimmel's on 271 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: the air or not. If you don't watch it, then 272 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 1: it will naturally take care of itself, because they're not 273 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: going to have something on that nobody pays attention to. 274 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: And it's if you simply don't engage with the product 275 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:59,439 Speaker 1: the same aayu you would advertisers on a program where 276 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: somebody says so than you're upset with or whatever, that 277 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: it'll all take care of itself. Whether Kimmel's there or not. 278 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 3: So Kimmel, he negotiated his return directly with Disney CEO 279 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:13,479 Speaker 3: Bob Iger, and he's going to address allegedly the controversy 280 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 3: in his monologue tonight, but he's not going to apologize 281 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 3: for it now. Next Star, who's another major affiliate owner, 282 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 3: hasn't confirmed whether they're going to erit or not. 283 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: Okay, so let's back up for just a second. And 284 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 1: I'm sure I'll get in big trouble for even asking 285 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: this question. I have seen the take of many people, 286 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: including some concerned. Look like rand Paul has come out, 287 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: you know, against. 288 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 2: This, and Ted Cruz against his return. 289 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: The suspension, and well it's primarily it's so much his 290 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 1: suspension as the heavy hand of the FCC orders perceived 291 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: as the heavy hand of the FCC. 292 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 2: Todd Young was even saying, you know what, Brandon Carr 293 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 2: crossed the line, right. 294 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: Who's the chairman of the FCC. The argument is Kimmel 295 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: wasn't in sight now said stuff that's factually incorrect, right 296 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: about the shooter. That's bad. But there's also an argument 297 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: that Kimmel was simply talking about Trump's reaction to it 298 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: and what he sort of believe was the hypocrisy of 299 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: Trump's reaction to it, talking about the ballroom and everything else. 300 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: You know, your good friend has you know, been assassinated, 301 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: and is that really going to be on the you know, 302 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: the first thing you're thinking about. And he was insulting 303 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: that they have a case for that. Do they have 304 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: a case to say, Well, we were going after the 305 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: president showing a ridiculous he's being about it. However, people 306 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: are laughing, people are having a good time. You can't 307 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: be laughing and having a good time in delivering jokes abouts, 308 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: you know, in or around some guy's assassination. 309 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was in poor taste. But again it will 310 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 2: you know, the public will police this via rating. 311 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 312 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 3: Sinclair asked Kimmel to apologize and also donate to Turning Point. 313 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 2: USA. 314 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: Oh, that ain't gonna happen. 315 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 3: Well, no kidding, even though he could. Yeah, no, he's 316 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 3: in a financial position where he could do that. 317 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: No way is that happening. All right, we gotta take 318 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: a break. What are we doing next? 319 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 2: What are we doing next? 320 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 3: You know what, We've got to talk about the cabinet 321 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 3: positions with the governor. 322 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 2: Oh and the dual office holding. 323 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: Okay, so this is uh well, I'll just tell a 324 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: personal story about this. 325 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 3: I got. 326 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: File how this whole thing all works. Right. 327 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 2: It is Kendall and Casey. It's ninety three WIBC. 328 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: You know, Casey, my enemies have tried to do a 329 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: lot to me over the years. You got a lot 330 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: of those, do you And look at me, my bullet 331 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 1: riddled body, still in front of everyone. I'm still here 332 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: broadcasting every single days. 333 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 2: You are. 334 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: And actually one of the things they tried to do 335 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: to me over the year is actually, now I can 336 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: speak from good experience on this because there's an it's 337 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: actually affecting our state government now in the Indiana Capitol 338 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: Chronicle has a big article about a topic that I've 339 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 1: I've got some experience with. 340 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 3: So Governor Mike Brown has appointed two top officials to 341 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 3: hold dual leadership roles. So this is now a debate 342 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:08,399 Speaker 3: over holding two positions, and it's sparking some constitutional concerns. 343 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 2: Can they do this? Can they not do this? 344 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 1: So the big one is like that Anthony Scott, dude, 345 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: who is the state police superintendent. You know Anthony Scott, 346 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 1: He's the guy who when he became state police superintendent. 347 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: The Tom Kleinhelter investigation. Tom klein Helter, of course, du 348 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:27,439 Speaker 1: Boys County sheriff, very close political ally and friend of 349 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: Governor Mike Brawn, was accused in an eighty page probable 350 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: cause affidavit by the previous State Police commissioners or superintendent's administration, 351 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: Doug Carter, of massive misuse of commissary money, including buying 352 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:48,199 Speaker 1: his wife plane tickets, et cetera. And then, once Anthony 353 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:54,679 Speaker 1: Scott became the state Police superintendent, magically that investigation went away. 354 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: And not only did it go away without really an 355 00:17:57,080 --> 00:18:00,080 Speaker 1: explanation about why, because you know, eighty page called I 356 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 1: have a David's pretty strong, but also the detective who 357 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: was in charge of the case, Jeff here in thirty 358 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: plus year distinguished member of state police, got reprimanded, I believe, demoted, etc. 359 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 1: Because he was quote unquote well, I don't know if 360 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: they used this exact quote, but they basic said it 361 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 1: was unprofessional in his dealings with the social prosecutor who 362 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: decided not to file the charges against the governor's close 363 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: political ally without really an explanation on why. Anyway, I'm 364 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 1: getting off topic here. 365 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 3: Anthony Scott, Dediana State Police Superintendent, conveniently then gets promoted 366 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 3: to this public Safety Secretary position. 367 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: When Jennifer Ruth Green has her little meltdown Ski, you know, 368 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: she resigned in a cloud of scandal. There's an Inspector 369 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 1: General's report, ethics commissions looking into that. You know all this. 370 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:50,120 Speaker 1: So not only now is Anthony Scott the state police superintendent, 371 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 1: he's also the public Safety Secretary, which is a cabinet 372 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: level position. 373 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 2: Correct. 374 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 3: You also have the Secretary of Education. Katie Jenner was 375 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 3: confirmed as Higher Education Commissioner while keeping her previous role. 376 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 2: So the Indiana Constitution prohibits. 377 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 3: Holding more than one lucrative office unless expressly allowed. So 378 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 3: what is a lucrative office? 379 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 1: Ah, that's the question. Okay, So it's called dual lucrative 380 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 1: office holding in casey. And this is funny because every 381 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:28,159 Speaker 1: so often I'll be in an engagement with someone and 382 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 1: then they'll go, yeah, but you're the dual lucrative office guy, 383 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:34,159 Speaker 1: So what will you know? 384 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 2: Oh, so you have some experience in that. 385 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 1: So this would have been twenty twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen, 386 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: when I was on the town council in Brownsburg. I 387 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: was also working as the Pharmacy Board director for Governor 388 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 1: Pennce and one is a state employee. Job one is 389 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 1: an elected position. They're not in any way connected. I 390 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 1: also saw served at the request of my fellow council 391 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: members because if there was one thing I was good at, Casey, 392 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,199 Speaker 1: not good at much. I was good at broadcasting and 393 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 1: good at government. Because boy, and Casey will back me 394 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: up on this, the OCD works great if you give 395 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 1: a damn about government, because you got to read a lot, 396 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 1: and you got to obsess over things, and you got 397 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: to never stop. So they my fellow colleagues kept asking 398 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: me to do things like a redevelopment commission, the planning Commission. 399 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: I was even on the solid waste board. Casey, you 400 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: want to find the most boring job in all of government, 401 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 1: go serve on the solid wasteboard. But I was always 402 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,400 Speaker 1: wanted to raise my hand and say, okay, I'll go 403 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 1: do this, and there were this will shock you, Casey. 404 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: When I was an elected person, there were some people 405 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:44,919 Speaker 1: who didn't care for me. No, and they accused me 406 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 1: of what is known as dual lucrative office holding because 407 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 1: I had all of these government, you know, appointed positions, 408 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: and I was the Pharmacy Board director wells, I was 409 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: friends with the prosecutor in our home county, Hendricks County. 410 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: So when you they filed a complaint with the prosecutor, 411 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: and the prosecutor is like, look, there's totally nothing here. 412 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 1: But because i'm your friend, I'm not going to be 413 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 1: able to look into any of this. I'm just going 414 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 1: to give this to the neighboring neighboring prosecute. This was 415 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: Boone County, I think, was who they gave it to, 416 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 1: and I'm sure there's nothing here, but just give it away. Well, 417 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 1: the news finds out special prosecutor and all of a 418 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 1: sudden they're sprinting to Boone County counselmen accused him do it. 419 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: I was accused by some guy who didn't like me. 420 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 1: It wasn't like I was accused by the state police 421 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: or the Brownsburg Police or the FBI. It was like, 422 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 1: some guy who doesn't like me is accused me of this. 423 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: And so as a result, there was a I believe 424 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: it was fourteen page document. And by the way, it 425 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 1: wasn't just me. There were other people that were also 426 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,919 Speaker 1: accused of this. There's a fourteen page document that exists. 427 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 1: People can read it, find it. It's been around for years. 428 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 1: Saying Rob Kendall did absolutely nothing wrong. He's guilty of 429 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 1: nothing other than being really good at government. Everyone go home. 430 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: But because there are news articles about it. And by 431 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:57,880 Speaker 1: the way, there are news articles that say Rob Kendall 432 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 1: did nothing wrong, everyone go home. That I think it's 433 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: at the end of the news when you're there the 434 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: accusations made. You're the lead story to the top. So 435 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: I have some experience. But my favorite thing is always 436 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: This has been around for like eleven and a half 437 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 1: years now, and my favorite thing is every so often 438 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: somebody will find a newspaper article, the accusation article be like, 439 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: that's you, not the article that says Rob did nothing wrong. 440 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: But this is just one of the numerous things I've 441 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 1: dealt with over the years of people trying to take 442 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: me down and take me out. And I always laugh 443 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 1: when people think they found They're like Indiana Jones. They've 444 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 1: properly executed a Google search and they found the accusation 445 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: and they're like, what do you know double dipper? 446 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 2: Double dipper? 447 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: Uh So maybe someday I don't figure out. You have 448 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 1: to show me how to do this. We could like 449 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 1: scan it in on our does the copy you're working 450 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: there not today, we could scan the special prosecutors reports 451 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: saying it did nothing wrong, and maybe we could post 452 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 1: it online for people to see. You educate the people 453 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: who every every time I make a new mortal enemy, 454 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,360 Speaker 1: they think they found something amazing. Anyway, I've a lot 455 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 1: of experience with this, and there are rules, there are laws. 456 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,439 Speaker 1: There are certain offices you can or can't do things with, 457 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 1: and the Constitution very clearly spells all those things out. 458 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: And you know, I would assume they've got attorneys working 459 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 1: on this to make sure that their employees are in 460 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: the clear and everything's fine. 461 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 3: So lucrative office is typically a paid public post created 462 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 3: by law with sovereign powers. So the Attorney General's office 463 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 3: uses a four step test to evaluate whether it's a 464 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 3: dual office. Right, They ask, are both positions lucrative offices? 465 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 3: Does the arrangement violate separation of powers? Are the positions 466 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 3: incompatible or conflicting? And are there other legal prohibittions? So prohibitations. 467 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 3: So the thing with Jenner and Scott, they're going to 468 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 3: receive only one salary, and this is to try to 469 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 3: help avoid any lucrative office conflict. And the governor says 470 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 3: that their roles share a common mission so that avoids 471 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 3: any separation of powers or conflict of interest issues. 472 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: And by the way, so I want to tell people this, 473 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 1: this is why when I air things, because of what 474 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: I went through. And look the reason I am the 475 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 1: way that I am, and I'm so tough on all 476 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 1: this stuff and what people say about me doesn't bother 477 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 1: me at all. Look, I've been through it all right, 478 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 1: There's nothing somebody's gonna say that's gonna be worse of 479 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: somebody accusing you of something. I was young. I mean 480 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,439 Speaker 1: I think it was what twenty nine or thirty years old, 481 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: Like I just started and it was like, what is 482 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 1: going on here? That hardens you to the point where 483 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: it's like, not that your gold face is going to 484 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,919 Speaker 1: be worse than that, but it is why, because I 485 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 1: went through that, I am so meticulous when like we 486 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 1: broke the Bohotchick story, making sure I get multiple sources 487 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: when we are the bow beard OWI story that I'm 488 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: so meticulous get other sources. I don't take lightly when 489 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 1: I say somebody's done something without having the stuff to 490 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: back it up, because I've been through and that's why 491 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: we get the stuff right. Because I am so meticulous 492 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 1: about it. 493 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 3: So Bron's office, he framed the moves as part of 494 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 3: government streamlining. It's a way to cut costs and approve efficiently. 495 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 2: Wait, so according to him, both of these posts they're 496 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:16,120 Speaker 2: they're fine, they're. 497 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 1: Good well, and they may very well be. My question 498 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,679 Speaker 1: about the streamlining is how does he keep doing all 499 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: these things to streamline government? But we couldn't fund the 500 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,880 Speaker 1: government without raising taxes by a billion dollars these two things. 501 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 1: And by the way, listen, act like Anthony Scott's running 502 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: a soup kitchen over there, He's making two hundred and 503 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:37,360 Speaker 1: seventy five thousand dollars under the new post. These are 504 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: not poor singing orphans. We're paying these people tons of money. 505 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: I'm not sure how streamline that is. Clearly it must 506 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,400 Speaker 1: not be that streamline. If you couldn't fund your government 507 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 1: without raising taxes. 508 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 3: By my streamline, having one person do multiple things than 509 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,919 Speaker 3: having two separate people in two different jobs. 510 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: Well, it depends on how efficient and effective they're running 511 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:57,919 Speaker 1: the government. Just because you have one person at the 512 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: tippy top versus two. If the way they're running things 513 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 1: isn't better or more effective, then you might as well. 514 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 3: Have the two two people right, Yeah, so this isn't 515 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:09,160 Speaker 3: the first time this has happened. 516 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 2: Mitch Daniels did it. Eric Holcomb did it as well. 517 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I think it's common thing. People gonna run 518 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 1: the administration is the way they want to run them. 519 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:19,719 Speaker 1: The dual lucrative office holding thing is. I mean, it 520 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 1: does happen. I think people have gone down for it. 521 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: It's not a you know, it's not a it's not 522 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 1: a total nothing. But I don't I think they probably 523 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,159 Speaker 1: worded this to the point. Look, see I'm defending the 524 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,120 Speaker 1: Brawn administration on something. Casey, Wait, what's going about that? 525 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:34,880 Speaker 1: Is there anything else today? 526 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,400 Speaker 2: September twenty third, what are we doing? 527 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: Back? So let's going on. 528 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 3: We've got to talk about what's going on with Turning 529 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 3: Point USA. They made some announcements last night and where 530 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 3: they're going to be close to us coming up. 531 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 2: Okay, let's do it. It's Kenneln Casey on ninety three WIBC. 532 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 1: Okay, we got to talk about who's coming to IU 533 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 1: in the in the place that Charlie Kirk would have 534 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: would have been. 535 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. 536 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 3: So Turning Point USA thenounced they're going to be continuing 537 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 3: the campus tour that Charlie Kirk started. And some of 538 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 3: the big names that are going to be filling in 539 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 3: for Charlie are Tucker Carlson, Meghan Kelly, Governor, Glenn Younkin, Oh, 540 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 3: Glenn Beck. 541 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 1: Wait wait, okay, so time out to me and I 542 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 1: realized these people are trying to do a great thing. 543 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: So I'm not in any way trying to on that. 544 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 1: But okay, you get Tucker, because there was always used 545 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 1: to be in a like a saying in show business 546 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 1: that if somebody can't make it, like if you're in 547 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 1: a band or whatever and somebody can't make it, you 548 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,400 Speaker 1: always trying to replace him for the audience with equal 549 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 1: or bigger, right, And again that Charlie Kirk's a massive 550 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 1: shoe to fill, but Tucker Carlson sort of feels like 551 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: equal or bigger. Meghan Kelly okay in the vicinity. 552 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, well I'd like to see her. 553 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 1: Glenn Beck, you know, I think his his ship has 554 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 1: sailed in terms of his you know, one boy, he 555 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,880 Speaker 1: was a dominant figure in the media. Still a big name. 556 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 1: Glenn Younkin, which one of these is not like the 557 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 1: other casey. 558 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 2: They also have Mike Lee, Andy Biggs and Jeff Lander. 559 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,199 Speaker 1: And they say, oooh, Jeff Big that's a congressman, isn't it. 560 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 1: That's right. 561 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 3: They say they have an even bigger guest that will 562 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 3: be announced soon. But there was a stop scheduled for 563 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,159 Speaker 3: IU and it's still gonna happen. 564 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 1: And it is Tucker Carlson's Tucker Carlson. 565 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 3: So October twenty first at IU Bloomington, Tucker Carlson will 566 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 3: be there part of the Turning Point USA Campus visit. 567 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 1: Now this, I mean, this will be the hottest ticket. 568 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 1: I mean, this will be like I'm not, like I say, 569 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 1: Taylor Swift level. I don't think there will be that 570 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 1: many people that will go to this, but this because 571 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: of as a tribute to Charlie Kirk, it will be 572 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 1: a massive ticket if somebody. I guess if you already 573 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 1: had them, they're still good. People have already bought them whatever. 574 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 1: So if you got in on that, great you probably 575 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 1: be able to make a fortune if you can sell them. 576 00:28:58,280 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 1: I don't know what the rules are with all of this. 577 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 1: I assume it's you have to pay to go, right. 578 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: This is not a I thought they were free? Are they? 579 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 3: Oh? 580 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 1: They free? I thought they were, Oh, you just had 581 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 1: to get a ticket, you just have to get in 582 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 1: the door. Now they're not doing it at Assembly Hall. 583 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 1: Are they're doing it at some sort of theater or 584 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 1: does it say on the I thought there was a list. 585 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 2: I don't have exactly where it's going to go. 586 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: Well, I'll look it up here real quick. 587 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 3: You could go to turningpointtour dot com, the turning Point 588 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 3: toour dot com. Some other places they're scheduled to go 589 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 3: University of Minnesota, Virginia Tech, Utah State, University of North Dakota, 590 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 3: University of Oklahoma, Ole, miss Auburn, UC Berkeley, and also 591 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 3: Louisiana State University. But the stop at IU is on 592 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 3: October twenty first. 593 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, it still doesn't say these articles are not very 594 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: well written, like where he's what? Because I would I 595 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 1: would bet at this point you might have been able 596 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 1: to do that before Charlie Kirk was pretty popular that 597 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 1: you could put that in Assembly Hall and you would 598 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 1: have enough people that would. Now, again I don't know 599 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 1: for security or whatever that maybe they don't want to 600 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 1: do that, but that will be a massively extent. I'll 601 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 1: get a answer on this and get it back to 602 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 1: people later. Hey, I do have a big announcement though 603 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: before because we have a bunch of other things to 604 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 1: talk about. But I had a big parenting win this morning. 605 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 1: Oh yes, I'm pretty proud of this, Casey. I don't 606 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: mind telling you so. Obviously, when you have a two 607 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 1: year old, every day is some new adventure. And today 608 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: in our sing along, my kid effectively because they'll have 609 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: the little simple songs is what we watch. I know 610 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: some young young parents, people with young kids right now 611 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 1: before after your time, Casey was gonna. 612 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 2: Say that wasn't around. 613 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 1: I was. It's famous actively, it's songs and they're acted 614 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 1: out either through cartoons or puppets or whatever. Well there's 615 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 1: one with the colors where that they have the puppets 616 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: holding up the colors and the balloons. And today my 617 00:30:56,360 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 1: kid effectively in real time got red, blue, green, and yellow. 618 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 2: Correct, good, good, and the counting is still hot. 619 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 1: Soon we're rolling. We were getting ready for getting ready 620 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 1: for as we call it, school today and we did 621 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 1: the effective one two, fee, four, five, six, set A 622 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 1: nine ten. So for some reason, the seventh, the seven, 623 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 1: and eight are the ones we can't I mean, she's 624 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 1: trying to say them maybe some language expert could tell me. 625 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 1: Is there some thing about the the number seven and 626 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 1: eight that are hard for other kids to pronounce? She 627 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 1: knows them, she's trying to say them. It's just not 628 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 1: coming out exactly correct. But all the other ones were 629 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 1: golden spot on. 630 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 2: She'll get there. Yeah, it just makes perfect right. 631 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 1: Okay, yes, other, but I was I wanted to share 632 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 1: that with our audience that we had We are now mastering, uh, 633 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 1: the colors. We're now mastering the colors. Okay, So coming up? 634 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 1: What next next segment? 635 00:31:58,600 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 3: Right? 636 00:31:59,000 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 2: Coming up next? 637 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 1: There's been a lot of conversation about whether I'm a 638 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 1: good boy or not when it comes to the Republican Party, 639 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 1: about whether I'm a Republican in good standing or not. 640 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,959 Speaker 1: This is the most amazing This is our show, This 641 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 1: is my life, Casey. Somebody that was laughing with this 642 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 1: with me yesterday about this this is my life where 643 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 1: there are people who hate me so much that their 644 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 1: thing is they're going to try to prove I'm not 645 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 1: saying our next guest does, but I'm saying there are 646 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 1: people out there who their whole thing they have obsessed 647 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 1: over is whether or not by the letter of the law, 648 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 1: I am a Republican and good standing. 649 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:31,400 Speaker 3: Well you do say that on the air, you say 650 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 3: I'm a Republican and good standing. 651 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 1: Now, of course I've been referring all this time because 652 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 1: with Daniel ll Let's State treasure on, then I'm a 653 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 1: Republican good standing with what people would actually care about, 654 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 1: which is whether I could run for public office, Like 655 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 1: if I wanted to, I check all the boxes. Trust me, 656 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 1: I do everything in my power to stay in good 657 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: standing in terms of voting, how I vote, et cetera. 658 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 1: About being able to run for public office as a 659 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 1: Republican state treasure Daniel Elliott has come on this program. 660 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 1: We heard people like David Shelton, the Knox County Treasurer, 661 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: say it, but they're like, I guess by the technical 662 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 1: letter of the Republican Party bylaws. People are really hung 663 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 1: up on they can disprove that I'm not a good Republican. 664 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 3: Jerry Lopez our very own Indie Spanglish, he says, is 665 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 3: Rob Kendall in good standing? 666 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 2: No, he says, You're not. 667 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 1: This is the most interesting and stupid segment. 668 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 3: At the same time, he's going to join us next 669 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 3: on ninety three WIBC