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Speaker 1: Why from the Hartband and the Crossroads of America. It's

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 2: Got to assume at this stage of the game, we

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Speaker 3: All the time.

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Speaker 2: After listening to what took place in front of the

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Speaker 2: House Oversight Committee yesterday, hearing these people are from Minnesota say, oh, yeah, fraud.

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Speaker 2: Everybody knows this fraud. Oh, Tim Walls knows this fraud.

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Speaker 2: Your mom knows this fraud. That side piece your dad has,

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: Was I not supposed to I'm not supposed to tell Gosh?

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Speaker 2: Now I feel terrible Tony Kats Tony Katz today, what

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Speaker 2: are you doing? Everybody? Eight three three got Tony three

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Speaker 2: three four six eight eight six sixt' nine. That is

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Speaker 2: how you get to be a part of the show. Now,

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Speaker 2: it seems that there is no interest from the political

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Speaker 2: left in working on this fraud. Let's leave that to

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Speaker 2: the side for right now. Let's discuss what it is

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Speaker 2: that we know. What we know is that this isn't

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Speaker 2: just Somali nationals. What we also know is that there's

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Speaker 2: a large amount of people from Somalia who have been

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Speaker 3: Two things can be true.

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Speaker 2: At the same time, and this is certainly true of Minneapolis.

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Speaker 2: We're starting to see this in other places, and those

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Speaker 2: connections to the United Nations. You're like, my gosh, this.

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Speaker 3: Goes on for forever.

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Speaker 2: It's nuts. But of course it is not just.

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Speaker 3: People from Somalia.

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Speaker 2: Now you might have some people who have a connection

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Speaker 2: are American citizens. In all situations, we start with the basics.

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Speaker 2: What is the fraud, Who is committing the fraud. We

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Speaker 2: prosecute the fraud. People who are American citizens go to jail.

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Speaker 2: People who are not American citizens get deported with their families. Gone, no, no, no, no, no.

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Speaker 2: The child was born here, they get to stay here.

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Speaker 2: That stuff is over. That conversation, of course, is the

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Speaker 3: And we have now proven.

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Speaker 2: Beyond the shadow of a doubt, that we cannot condone

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Speaker 2: such activity. If you are not a citizen, you will

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Speaker 2: you will go to jail. That's true matter where the

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Speaker 2: heritage is. Just so we understand each other. The fraud

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Speaker 2: is so well known as members of the they don't

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Speaker 2: call it a general assembly in Minnesota, do they? You

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Speaker 2: had a series of Minnesota state representatives speaking in front

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Speaker 2: try and be a whistleblower in this situation, when you

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Speaker 4: Ms Errick, you spoke about the retaliation that many have

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Speaker 4: experienced in light of trying to expose the fraud and

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Speaker 4: the corruption happening in Minnesota. Can you speak more to

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Speaker 4: that and what people are experiencing when they try to

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Speaker 5: Right, So that Italiation has been going out to work

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Speaker 5: quite some time to feel at what they, for instance,

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Speaker 5: She was actually moved to a different state agency. She was,

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Speaker 5: you know, retaliated against every kind of way you can think.

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Speaker 5: What's happened now is retaliation has escalated, and now it's

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Speaker 5: anywhere else in state government, and from Minnesota that means

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Speaker 2: I have played this for you, and you have heard this,

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Speaker 2: and get you to lose elected office. If you're in office,

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Speaker 2: and you be quiet about it. If you mentioned the fraud, well,

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Speaker 2: you're just a racist, and you're just an islamophobe, and

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Speaker 2: the extent that they will listen to the progressive left.

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Speaker 2: Once you see this, you realize for the progressive how

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Speaker 2: strong it is not to be called a racist. Now,

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Speaker 2: I really should get Evan say it back on the show,

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Speaker 2: because his original dissertations about this, whether we're talking about

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Speaker 2: nothing worse in the eyes of the progressive, nothing more

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Speaker 2: horrifying than being bigoted. It is the greatest sin. It

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Speaker 2: might very well be the original sin. Bigotry is just

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Speaker 3: What if I want to do this and not do that.

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Speaker 2: Let's say you're figuring out what you're gonna wear in

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Speaker 2: these things are variations of the very sixteen concept of bigotry.

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Speaker 2: be to be bigoted. That's what moral relativism is all about,

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Speaker 2: Iran does kill their citizens, but look what do we

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Speaker 2: The very concept of bigotry is the thing that they

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Speaker 2: There's nothing worse than being called bigoted. They said nothing

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Speaker 2: good for these poor people who don't know how to

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Speaker 3: You understand the bigotry involved.

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Speaker 2: In that, right? How dare we expect these people to

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Speaker 2: What we have said out loud is people who come

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Speaker 3: English is the language of freedom. Hot damn.

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Speaker 2: That's the truth. But people make the sides of Spanish.

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Speaker 2: You gotta have the foreman Spanish. You got this in Spanish.

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Speaker 2: That's soft bigotry. You're calling these people stupid. I think

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Speaker 2: In Minnesota they said nothing, And you better believe that.

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Speaker 2: I'm with you, and we both agree that there's no

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Speaker 2: There isn't a mafia family alive that went after the kids.

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Speaker 2: This is the tip of the iceberg. The fraud is everywhere.

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Speaker 2: We're hearing about it. In Ohio, we're hearing about it.

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Speaker 2: In California, we're hearing about it. In Washington State, Alex

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Speaker 2: we must be relentless. We don't elect people who will

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Speaker 2: damn well get what my constitution affords me. No one

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Speaker 3: And safe means electorally.

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Speaker 2: Oh still have the protection of the constitution that you're

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Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Kats. Today.

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Speaker 3: Chat room is telling me.

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Speaker 2: That I don't know how to light a cigar. Admittedly

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Speaker 2: Tony Kats, Tony Kats today, Good to be here, good

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Speaker 2: to be with you. I have the the SpaceX lighter,

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Speaker 2: And so I just I was a little like out

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Speaker 3: And I felt it. I felt it on the foreheaded

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Speaker 2: I we we almost we almost have had a very

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Speaker 2: in a little bit. Christinoam having a press conference where

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Speaker 2: she was discussing the shooting that took place regarding immigrations

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Speaker 6: To continue those conversations so we can work together.

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Speaker 7: During her Russo spoke about how this operation happened discreetly.

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Speaker 8: Under the cover of darkness, and that's how it should be,

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Speaker 8: which is in contrast to what happened in Minneapolis.

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Speaker 3: Yes, today, you said.

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Speaker 6: What do you mean in contrast, was very very very

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Speaker 6: that operation, what happened was our officers were out trying

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Speaker 6: that were inciting.

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Speaker 3: The officer was following his training.

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Speaker 6: He did follow his training because of an individual.

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Speaker 3: That was blank into a driver's window.

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Speaker 2: Is that part of the training? Is that?

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Speaker 3: How is that self defense?

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Speaker 6: This is an experienced officer who followed his training. And

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Speaker 6: we will continue to let the investigation unfold into the

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Speaker 6: the events that surrounded what happened yesterday on that tragic situation.

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Speaker 6: Was that these individuals had followed our officers all day,

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Speaker 6: to allow this process to unfold and recognize that these

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Speaker 6: law enforcement officers, every single day put their lives on

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Speaker 2: They go out and do their jobs.

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Speaker 6: They got instic terrorists though without an that we now the.

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Speaker 2: Calling her a domestic terrorist. I'm going to address that

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Speaker 2: a little bit. But he left immediately. Want to call

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Speaker 2: ICE murderers and gestapa seems kind of obvious. They want

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Speaker 2: and I think there should be an investigation. Why can't

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Speaker 2: we have the investigation? Why immediately to the attack. We'll

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Speaker 2: discuss this.

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Speaker 3: Tony Kats today s.

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Speaker 2: Tenny Hoyer to retire. Stenny Hoyer was Nancy Pelosi's henchman,

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Speaker 2: the number two, and he has announced that, Yeah, he's done,

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Speaker 2: he's finished. How old is Stenny Hoyer. Stenny Hoyer is eighty.

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Speaker 2: He's been in the House of Representatives for forty years.

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Speaker 2: Forty years he has been in the House. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 2: nineteen eighty one. Listen, this is this is Maryland. So

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Speaker 2: I don't think that he is going to have Our

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Speaker 2: Democrats have got any issue in replacing him. No one

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Speaker 2: should think so. But it's it's uh, you know, for him,

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Speaker 2: it's age. But there's been a bunch of people walking

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Speaker 2: saying that they've they've basically had enough. There's it's it's

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Speaker 2: it's not as easy as it used to be. There's

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Speaker 2: too much scrutiny. It's it's difficults. It's all I know

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Speaker 2: is is that a woman by the name of Ilhan

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Speaker 2: Omar walked in being worth like thirty thousand dollars, and

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Speaker 2: right now she's worth thirty million dollars.

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Speaker 3: So I have to assume that Congress pays.

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Speaker 2: Well, outrageously, outrageously well. But now the story here is

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Speaker 3: You have seen this very possibly in.

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Speaker 2: Your ow neighborhoods. What you've seen is that these companies

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Speaker 2: you get them these random texts, Hey, you're still interested

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Speaker 3: Dada da?

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Speaker 2: Director? I gotta work this out guys. Hold on, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's right, that's the end theme. The price is right

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Speaker 2: what what's the Miami show pressure? Luck? Maybe I'm just

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Speaker 2: problem there, as I relight my cigar, the problem there

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Speaker 2: well please, what are you talking crazy? I can't sell

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Speaker 3: These are two different things.

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Speaker 2: Zillo went heavy into buying the houses and they got

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Speaker 2: to be worth. Well, that's part of the that's investing.

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Speaker 2: You ever buy high and sell low. Yeah, that's happened

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Speaker 3: But then again, I'm the.

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Speaker 2: Guy who leaves that there is no such thing as

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Speaker 2: if the president of the United States can do that.

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Speaker 2: And certainly there's a conversation regarding what is Congress's job

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Speaker 2: I am immediately taking steps to ban large institutional investors

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Speaker 3: People live in homes, not corporations.

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Speaker 2: I must admit I wrestle with this. Let's start with

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Speaker 2: I don't think it creates a value. I think that

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Speaker 3: Oh what what made me leave?

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Speaker 2: I got this? I got the radio job in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 3: And I was working for free.

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Speaker 2: You didn't use me, that's fine, but you're running a

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Speaker 2: rerun of Greg Garrison from nine to midnight. Don't put

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Speaker 2: me on instead, and I'll do it for free. That's

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Speaker 2: he said. Okay, That's how I got That's how I

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Speaker 2: got started. I mean I was doing I was putting

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Speaker 2: myself on anywhere I could put myself on. But how

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Speaker 2: I got started with the opportunity that has led me

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Speaker 2: to hear is that I said I would do it

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Speaker 2: for free.

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Speaker 3: That was it.

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Speaker 2: I would absolutely do it free. So I did it

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Speaker 2: from Los Angeles. I lived in LA and I connected

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Speaker 2: to the station and I did the show like that

447
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Speaker 2: in the evenings for like eight months, and then they

448
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Speaker 2: offered me mornings and I thought they were nuts. And

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Speaker 2: then I moved my family Sight Unseen to Indianapolis. That's

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Speaker 2: how it all happened. I was willing to do the thing,

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Speaker 2: but I was in LA and saw this house in

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Speaker 2: Seam Valley. It still haunts me, how incredible. It's not

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Speaker 2: that the house was over the opulent, but It was

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Speaker 2: beautiful and it was a ranch, but what it was

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Speaker 2: was the backyard. If you know anything about Calivern housing,

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Speaker 2: backyards aren't too big, right, the land isn't too big

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Speaker 2: the houses or don't have that. But there was a fence,

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Speaker 2: and then the mountain went down, and it was this

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Speaker 2: canyon and the mountains, and I couldn't believe that I

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Speaker 2: could afford it. This was before I lost everything, and

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Speaker 2: I tried to buy that house, and luckily it didn't

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Speaker 2: work out, because then nothing worked out, and then everything

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Speaker 2: went to to bloody hell, and then I got the

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Speaker 2: opportunity here in My life has been so much better

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Speaker 2: because of it. But I remember saying, this house is

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Speaker 2: crazy expensive. How in the world is a mortgage company

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Speaker 2: going to give me a mortgage? And the realtor everybody

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Speaker 2: else like, don't worry about it. What do you mean,

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Speaker 2: don't worry about it? And what I realized was I

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Speaker 2: didn't have to worry about how I was going to

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Speaker 2: afford this house. They had to worry about how I

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Speaker 2: was going to afford this house. They had to make

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Speaker 2: it work. The price was too high, it didn't make

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Speaker 2: any sense. The market was well out of whack with reality,

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Speaker 2: it was fake false. Everybody wanted to live there. I

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Speaker 2: think a lot of people at the time wanted to

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Speaker 2: live there. I don't think everybody wanted to live there,

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Speaker 2: But was that maybe without my knowing happening because of

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Speaker 2: other forces, like, for example, this where you have these

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Speaker 2: institutional investors coming in and buying up homes. How do

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Speaker 2: we get to a place where the government can say no,

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Speaker 2: you can't sell to them. Now, I understand how the

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Speaker 2: government can say no, you cannot sell to the communist Chinese.

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Speaker 2: I know how that works. That's a national security conversation.

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Speaker 2: How does it work that I can't sell to a company? Now?

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Speaker 2: I know, I've seen a bunch of people in the

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Speaker 2: talking about a group like black Rock. Okay, what if

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Speaker 2: it's John's house buying consolidated LLC dot Org? Like, what

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Speaker 2: if it's something like that and it's a group of

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Speaker 2: dentists and they're gonna buy forty two houses?

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Speaker 3: How do you tell me.

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Speaker 2: I'm not allowed to sell to them? How do you

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Speaker 2: get to tell me that I who owns my property

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Speaker 2: in a nation that still has property rights because we're

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Speaker 2: not controlled by Momdani? How do you tell me I

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Speaker 2: can't sell to them. And that's where I get broken.

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Speaker 2: If you will and I haven't come to a a.

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Speaker 2: I haven't come to a resolution on this, and I

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Speaker 2: haven't heard an argument yet that makes me go yep,

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Speaker 2: that's the answer right there. Okay, now I get it.

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Speaker 2: Now you've given me the piece that allows me to

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Speaker 2: do the rest. No, it's different, Carrie, Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate it. It's different than when an HOA has

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Speaker 2: a cap on the number of rentals allowed in a

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Speaker 2: neighborhood because you are buying the house in the full

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Speaker 2: knowledge of what the HOA is putting down as a requirement. Now,

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Speaker 2: if that should come if soo facto, well then I

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Speaker 2: have an issue with it because who are you to

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Speaker 2: tell me how I can engage the use of my property.

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Speaker 2: I should be able to do that. And there are

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Speaker 2: also hoas that say you can't airbnb it, and all

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Speaker 2: sorts of things that come up.

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Speaker 3: That's if you are already given the knowledge of what

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Speaker 3: the rules are.

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Speaker 2: But sticking with this, I think Trump is talking about

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Speaker 2: something that people are talking about, and cities are talking about,

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Speaker 2: towns are talking about. I just don't know how you

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Speaker 2: stop it. I do not know if we have a

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Speaker 2: system to do so, send me anything you want. I'll

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Speaker 2: take the information. Tonyetonycats dot com. Feel free keep it here.

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Speaker 2: This is Tony CAx today press conference being held by Governor

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Speaker 2: Tim Walls. He wants you to know that they may

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Speaker 2: be investigating the ICE agent involved in the shooting there

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Speaker 2: that led to one woman being killed, but we we

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Speaker 2: won't ever get the truth to everyone.

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Speaker 9: Minnesota must be part of this investigation. These are non partisan,

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Speaker 9: career professionals that have spent years building the trust of

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Speaker 9: the community. There's a BCA Force Investigations Unit that was

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Speaker 9: created by the legislature by the people of Minnesota to

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Speaker 9: provide an independent, consistent, and trusted mechanism for investigating the

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Speaker 9: use of force incidents involving law enforcement officers.

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Speaker 2: I favored investigation, did I say, hello, Tony Tony Katz today?

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Speaker 2: Of course they should, just because deep blood Twitter are like, oh,

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Speaker 2: that's a clean shoot. I think there's a lot there

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Speaker 2: that would exonerate the ICE agents. It doesn't mean I

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Speaker 2: want an investigation. It doesn't make me right. I want

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Speaker 2: the investigation. But listen to the governor.

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Speaker 9: Minnesota has seen our share of these and what you've

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Speaker 9: seen is, and I have witnessed it during my time

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Speaker 9: that these professionals have risen to the moment they are

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Speaker 9: trusted by people. People who are not by inclination trusting

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Speaker 9: of law enforcement or government have come to see the

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Speaker 9: professionals at the BCA as true arbitrators that can get

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Speaker 9: them justice. The unit is the result of years of scrutiny,

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Speaker 9: public engagement, and bipartisan legislative action. Minnesotans have made it

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Speaker 9: clear time and again they expect transparency through this process

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Speaker 9: where a police officer uses deadly for worse.

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Speaker 2: So the governor is going down the road that his

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Speaker 2: group can tell us what happened, but if ICE investigates,

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Speaker 2: we won't get the truth. Is this the argument he's presenting,

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Speaker 2: Because if this is the argument, it certainly does flow

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Speaker 2: into our argument that the left.

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Speaker 3: Is very, very interested.

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Speaker 2: In fomenting more anger against ICE and seeing ICE agents

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Speaker 2: be attacked. Your group, they'll give us the answer, but

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Speaker 2: that group will never get the end. That's Governor Tim Wallas, who,

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Speaker 2: by the way, should resign for the front.

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Speaker 3: The pressure should stay on. This is Tony katsa.

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Speaker 1: Line from vall Hartbeyer and the cross Roads of America

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Speaker 1: it's Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 2: Well, surprise, surprise, surprise, a White House Press briefing happening today.

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Speaker 2: This was not on the schedule when I started the show.

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Speaker 2: Tony Kats, Tony Kats today. Good to be here, Good

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Speaker 2: to be with you. Eight three three four six eight

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Speaker 2: eight six sixty nine eight three three Got Tony. That's

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Speaker 2: how you get to be a part of the program.

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Speaker 2: You can email me Tony Kats, twitter x Tony Kats,

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Speaker 2: or get in the chat room. Just go to that livestream,

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Speaker 2: YouTube dot com slash Tony Kats Katz and be a

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Speaker 2: part of it. It is the White House briefing, the

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Speaker 2: press briefings. You got Caroline Levitt and Vice President jd Vance.

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Speaker 2: Now there's a myriad of things going on that could

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Speaker 2: be discussed. You have the United States, as was reported

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Speaker 2: of President Trump making the announcement pulling out of a

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Speaker 2: series of organizations from the United Nations and others, saying

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Speaker 2: that these organizations simply do not serve the best interests

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Speaker 2: of the American people and therefore we should not.

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Speaker 3: Be a part of them.

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Speaker 2: Now, some of them have already happened, things like UNRA,

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Speaker 2: the United Nations Reliefs Work Agency for Palestinian refugees. Millions

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Speaker 2: and millions and millions of dollars have been spent. And

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Speaker 2: what happened.

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Speaker 3: They participated in.

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Speaker 2: Organizing October October seventh, They participated in the killing of

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Speaker 2: twelve hundred Israelis. That's what they did. Planning took place

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Speaker 2: in their offices. Of course, we shouldn't be a part

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Speaker 2: of it. Now. This really brings the larger conversation should

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Speaker 2: we be involved in the UN. And I've discussed this

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Speaker 2: on Some people push back, no, we got to go

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Speaker 2: this way that way, And I don't think anybody who's

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Speaker 2: come back in me is actually wrong because I have

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Speaker 2: said we need to end or a participation in the

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Speaker 2: UN and start new. Others have said, we don't need

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Speaker 2: to do anything, We don't need to be a part

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Speaker 2: of any of this regarding the UN. Why don't we

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Speaker 2: just get out of all of it. I only would

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Speaker 2: argue back that I think there is something to be

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Speaker 2: said about connection and collaboration with other nations, that the

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Speaker 2: talking is good. Our problem is we have allowed lesser people,

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Speaker 2: because of socialist wants and desires, to have powerful positions,

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Speaker 2: and we can't put the toothpaste back in the tube,

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Speaker 2: so you know what you need YouTube youthpaste. Maybe we

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Speaker 2: need to rethink that European order. Why in the world

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Speaker 2: or do we.

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Speaker 3: Have France on top in the UK on top? You

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Speaker 3: know should be.

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Speaker 2: On top, you know, should be our ally that we're

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Speaker 2: talking to Poland that's all rethinking it. So we have

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Speaker 2: got this briefing and I want to bring you as

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Speaker 2: much of it straight through as possible. It's gonna start

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Speaker 2: any minute, so I know it's it's it's early, but

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Speaker 2: we're gonna take the break now so I can bring

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Speaker 2: you as much of this as I can. Because it

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Speaker 2: could be Jadavan's talking about the pulling out of these organizations.

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Speaker 2: It could be that you had this Venezuelan tanker oil

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Speaker 2: in it, sanctioned oil that was getting an escort. With

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Speaker 2: the escort was a Russian submarine, as Axios reported, in

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Speaker 2: the vicinity of this tanker, like somehow they were just

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Speaker 2: gonna keep the oil as if we weren't gonna pay attention.

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Speaker 3: And what did the United States do?

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Speaker 2: The US Coast Guard took the tanker, So did the

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Speaker 2: Russians somehow not think that we were serious about all this?

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Speaker 2: Somebody's asking, are we about to see the move of

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Speaker 2: a carrier group to the coast of Columbia. We already

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Speaker 2: know that Columbia is on the president's naughty list. Is

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Speaker 2: this a conversation about Iran? Where you have the leader

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Speaker 2: of the Iranian military threatening a preemptive strike against the

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Speaker 2: United States their nation right now where the protests are

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Speaker 2: going on with such great force, they are flailing and

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Speaker 2: falling apart. They couldn't tell that we were coming to

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Speaker 2: engage a bombing graide against the nuclear facilities of Isfahan,

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Speaker 2: Natons and Fordeaux. And now what are they doing. They're

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Speaker 2: acting tough like them Being tough means anything. This could

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Speaker 2: be about the shooting with Ice. This could be about

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Speaker 2: the attack that happens at his house in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 3: It could be he just wants to say.

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Speaker 2: Hey, guys, just want you to know it's been about

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Speaker 2: a year since we've been in office and we won

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Speaker 2: and Kablo Lawson and.

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Speaker 3: Then he walks off stage.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know, but I'm gonna bring

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Speaker 2: it to you as much as I can in full

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Speaker 2: stay right there.

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Speaker 3: Press briefing with Caroline Levitt and.

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Speaker 2: The Vice President of the United States, Jadie Vance I'm

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz, and this is Tony Katz today. Well, if

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Speaker 2: a Keem Jeffries wants to tell me that there's no evidence,

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Speaker 2: there must not be evidence.

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Speaker 7: There is no evidence that has been presented to justify

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Speaker 7: the shooting of an unarmed woman resulting in her unnecessary death.

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Speaker 2: There are few more effect people than Jakiem Jeffries. Of course,

652
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Speaker 2: that changes from day to day. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today,

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Speaker 2: good to be with you talking about the shooting involving

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Speaker 2: a nice agent in Minneapolis. I want you to hear

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Speaker 2: that again.

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Speaker 7: No evidence that has been presented to justify the shooting

657
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Speaker 7: of an unarmed woman resulting in her unnecessary death.

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Speaker 3: Now I've got a little bit more here. I'm curious.

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Speaker 2: I'm curious if he at least admits that she was

660
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Speaker 2: blocking traffic, didn't listen to the police, and then was

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Speaker 2: seen driving as an agent could see it at him.

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Speaker 7: Christy Nolan, the so called Secretary of Homeland Security is.

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Speaker 2: A stone cold liar who has zero stone cold liar

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Speaker 2: and wait, what do you mean?

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Speaker 3: So called is.

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Speaker 7: A stone cold liar who has zero credibility on this

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Speaker 7: issue or on any other issue.

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Speaker 2: If you make this guy speaker, you will regret it

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Speaker 2: for forever. So called secretary of Homeland Security. That's that's

670
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Speaker 2: just nuts. Everything that happens, if you watch it is

671
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Speaker 2: about a dismissal. You know, they talk about, Look what

672
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Speaker 2: these Republicans are doing to our institutions. Look what they're

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Speaker 2: doing in the institutions. So called. No, she's the secretary

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Speaker 2: of Homeland Security. You disagree with her. You see the difference.

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Speaker 2: A la Hundre Mayork was the Secretary of Homeland Security

676
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Speaker 2: and he was blanking awful. He got impeached. Now Chuck

677
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Speaker 2: Schumer sent it wouldn't hold a trial. Remember that, Remember that.

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Speaker 3: All too well.

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Speaker 2: But no one ever said he was the so called

680
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Speaker 2: And here like this. This is a comment I just

681
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Speaker 2: got on the socials. Someone's calling me full of blank.

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Speaker 2: It's a comment that's actually on the live stream. The

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Speaker 2: woman wasn't armed. That can't be justified, christynom is a

684
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Speaker 2: joke cosplay. Hold on a second. You argue that the

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Speaker 2: woman wasn't armed, The woman was driving a vehicle that

686
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Speaker 2: weighs thousands of pounds and had horsepower. Now, I did

687
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Speaker 2: not say that the shooting was a good shoot. I

688
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Speaker 2: did not say that there couldn't have been other ways

689
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Speaker 2: this could have been handled, but we can't so somehow

690
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Speaker 2: avoid the fact that she was in a vehicle blocking traffic,

691
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Speaker 2: did not listen to law enforcements, back the car up,

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Speaker 2: and then started driving forward before she turned.

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Speaker 3: We also should note that because it.

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Speaker 2: Was icy, the wheels did spin. If she had traction

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Speaker 2: from the beginning, does she drive forward another twenty feet

696
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Speaker 2: hitting the agent?

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Speaker 3: Couldn't the agent have thought.

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Speaker 2: That this is what an investigation is for your problem?

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Speaker 3: Pamela, Hi, Pamela, welcome to the show.

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Speaker 2: Your chock full of emotion, and with all due respect,

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Speaker 2: I don't have any time for your emotion. Maybe save

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Speaker 2: that for your henpecked husband. Those of us of a

703
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Speaker 2: rational mind want to know what happened, and yes, I

704
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Speaker 2: do agree, chat room, he did get kit, but let's

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Speaker 2: make sure we're defining the terms properly. We saw that

706
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Speaker 2: one of the agents did get swiped. That is different

707
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Speaker 2: than getting run over, and if the truck, if the

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Speaker 2: SUV had been able to have its traction, that guy

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Speaker 2: could have been run over. Is that what we wanted?

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Speaker 2: You argue we didn't want the shooting, and I don't

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Speaker 2: disagree with that I didn't want the shooting either, But

712
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Speaker 2: are we not going to discuss what this woman did

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Speaker 2: in the process and the blame that may very well

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Speaker 2: belong to her in it. And I am not discounting

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Speaker 2: that this guy, this agent may maybe an investigation. No, no, no,

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Speaker 2: you should have done this that, and the training says

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Speaker 2: this and that you should.

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Speaker 3: Have done this and that.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, and neither do those just commenting on

720
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Speaker 2: social media because they're angry, because they are filled with rays.

721
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Speaker 2: You hate Trump more than you like being normal, and

722
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Speaker 2: you can't see through that, you cannot even begin to

723
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Speaker 2: allow yourself the opportunity to think about this rationally. Well

724
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Speaker 2: that's on you me. I'm only going to do this rationally.

725
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Speaker 2: And when I see a Keem Jeffries make this radical statement,

726
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Speaker 2: so called he's done this before, so called Secretary of

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Speaker 2: Homeland Security, like I would like to see the house

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Speaker 2: move against him. I would like to see the house

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Speaker 2: move against him on the live chat there the chat

730
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Speaker 2: on the live stream, stop interfering and no one will

731
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Speaker 2: get hurt, period.

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Speaker 3: Now Ain't that something? Thank you?

733
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Speaker 2: I thought I was the only person engaged in this conversation.

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Speaker 3: Clearly not. I am not saying the woman deserve to

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Speaker 3: be shocked.

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Speaker 2: That's what an investigation is for. But could we, at

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Speaker 2: the very least as rational people, could we say that

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Speaker 2: if this woman wasn't blocking traffic, none of this would

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Speaker 2: have happened, because I believe we can say such a thing.

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Speaker 2: Can't we at least say that if this woman had

741
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Speaker 2: listened to the authorities and stopped got out of the car,

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Speaker 2: that this wouldn't have happened. We have two opportunities to

743
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Speaker 2: recognize that there were actions taken by the driver, where

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Speaker 2: if she had just done something else, this wouldn't have happened.

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Speaker 2: This brings us and let's keep an eye on the sea.

746
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Speaker 2: Span feed their producer Land and for when the Vice

747
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Speaker 2: president comes out with Caroline Levitt.

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Speaker 3: I want to share this with you.

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Speaker 2: This is Chris Hayes from MS Now Miss Now. It's

750
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Speaker 2: so embarrassing. I want you to hear how he explains

751
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Speaker 2: what happened to a leftist audience on Stephen Colbert's.

752
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Speaker 10: Show is that the president has sort of declared one

753
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Speaker 10: of his occasional occupations of an American city that he

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Speaker 10: feels is excessively liberal.

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Speaker 2: He's done. That's not true. The President of the United

756
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Speaker 2: States was elected to secure the border and remove illegal immigrants.

757
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Speaker 2: They are breaking the law and he's doing his job.

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Speaker 2: This is what Americans voted for. It's not occupying of

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Speaker 2: leftist cities. What a gross thing to say. Now, if

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Speaker 2: you want to argue that leftist cities are also sanctuary

761
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Speaker 2: cities and are totally fine with the legal immigration, supportive

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Speaker 2: of it, you would be accurate.

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Speaker 3: Chris Hayes. But let's continue.

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Speaker 10: I'm this with Los Angeles.

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Speaker 2: He's on over Chicago, he's out in Portland.

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Speaker 10: There was a surge of immigration enforcement directed to Minnesota

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Speaker 10: this morning. There was a post by DHS about good

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Speaker 10: morning Minnesota, and these agents were attempting some sort of

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Speaker 10: ice raid, not diawar from many we've seen across the country.

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Speaker 2: If DHS was saying good morning Minnesota, that was DHS

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Speaker 2: letting you know that they were there. Wasn't clandestine, wasn't

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Speaker 2: in the dark. They were very open about it. The

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Speaker 2: woman in question, her name is Renee Good. She's thirty

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Speaker 2: seven years old.

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Speaker 10: She was in a car parked on the street in

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Speaker 10: a residential neighborhood about a mile from where George Floyd

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Speaker 10: was murdered, and she was in the car. Several Ice

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Speaker 10: agents came.

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Speaker 2: Up real quick. The Left is desperate for George Floyd

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Speaker 2: two point zero. But I want to be clear, I

781
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Speaker 2: have never once been okay with the actions of the

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Speaker 2: officer involved with George Floyd.

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Speaker 3: George Floyd was not killed by that officer's knee.

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Speaker 2: I can't remember his name right now. George Floyd was

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Speaker 2: killed by the drugs in his system. That's not me

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Speaker 2: saying that, that's the data saying that everything we were

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Speaker 2: told about George Floyd and how they were able to

788
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Speaker 2: engage the emotions was nothing about facts. I do not

789
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Speaker 2: support what the officer did and that other officers didn't say, okay,

790
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Speaker 2: get off them like that.

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Speaker 3: Inane.

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Speaker 2: But George Floyd is dead because of the drugs in

793
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Speaker 2: his system. Let's continue. The Left wants another George Floyd

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Speaker 2: riot up to her.

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Speaker 10: It's unclear from the two videos that I've watched numerous

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Speaker 10: times whether they said to get out of here or

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Speaker 10: get out of the car.

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Speaker 2: It sounds like they said get out of the car.

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Speaker 10: An Ice agent approached the car. She appears on both

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Speaker 10: angles of the video to be first backing up and

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Speaker 10: then trying to basically drive her car away from these

802
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Speaker 10: armed men who are coming to accost her.

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Speaker 2: No, this is Chris Hayes not telling the audience that

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Speaker 2: she was blocking traffic. Chris Hayes not being honest about

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Speaker 2: what was taking place. Chris Hayes saying, it's okay if

806
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Speaker 2: law enforcement says step out of the car, for you

807
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Speaker 2: to say no, you don't have to listen to law enforcement.

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Speaker 2: It's like Senator Mark Kelly saying, hey, military, you don't

809
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Speaker 2: have to listen to the president.

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Speaker 3: They are all in favor of not listening.

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Speaker 2: To authority, unless, of course, they're telling you you have

812
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 2: to get the vaccine, or you can't have your job,

813
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 2: or get on an airplane or go to a museum.

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Speaker 2: She backs up, she isn't just driving away at least

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Speaker 2: maybe that's not how the Ice agent took it. And

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Speaker 2: I didn't know you could just be like, ah, sorry,

817
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Speaker 2: copper and drive away, he continues.

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Speaker 10: One of the Ice agents is positioned himself right at

819
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Speaker 10: the front corner of the car. He proceeds to fire

820
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Speaker 10: four shots, three or four shots from extremely close range into.

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Speaker 3: The driver side of the car.

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Speaker 2: It was extremely close range because the car started coming

823
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Speaker 2: towards him.

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Speaker 10: The first shot from head on and the next three

825
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Speaker 10: with him at a ninety degree angle. You could see

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Speaker 10: it in the freeze frame. The gun is like this

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Speaker 10: and the open window is.

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Speaker 2: Like this, So he is what freeze frame? What freeze

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Speaker 2: frame are you talking about? Out of the way of

830
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Speaker 2: the car.

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Speaker 10: She loses contentciousness and the car heads into a lamppost

832
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Speaker 10: where it hits. Reports indicate that she was without medical

833
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Speaker 10: attention for between ten to fifteen minutes. There's reporting on

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Speaker 10: the scene that indicate that a doctor attempted to give

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Speaker 10: CPR and was stopped. Her partner was in the car,

836
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Speaker 10: as was her dog, and stuffed into the front seat

837
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Speaker 10: were a number of stuffed animals that belonged to her

838
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Speaker 10: four year old daughter, who has now lost her mother.

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Speaker 2: Now, the partner was not in the car. The six

840
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Speaker 2: year old daughter was not in the car. I know

841
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Speaker 2: nothing of the dog, nor do I know anything of

842
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Speaker 2: whether or not medical was not allowed at the scene.

843
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Speaker 2: I do know that I saw the videos where I

844
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Speaker 2: said call nine to one one. I don't know if

845
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Speaker 2: she lost consciousness or she was dead at the moment.

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Speaker 2: The awe you hear doesn't exist. If the ice agent

847
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Speaker 2: had been run over, which is really gross, stuff. Why

848
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:10,399
Speaker 2: don't you tell everybody what really happened and then they'll

849
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Speaker 2: make the decision.

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Speaker 3: Let them make the decision for themselves. You don't trust them.

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Speaker 2: You know what you want is the narrative, not the story,

852
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Speaker 2: and that is ugly stuff. That's why the mainstream media

853
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Speaker 2: can't be trusted to keep it here.

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Speaker 3: This is Tony Katz Today.

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Speaker 2: Find everything at Tony Katz dot com. So the Vice

856
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Speaker 2: President of the United States, Jade Vance, joins Caroline Levi

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Speaker 2: at the White House Press Secretary in the White House

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Speaker 2: Briefing Room. Tony Katz, Tony kats today, Good to be

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Speaker 2: with me. Caroline Levitt starting by saying that the administration

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Speaker 2: has the backs and stands with immigrations and customers Enforcement.

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Speaker 2: ICE agents are under attack. They're gonna stand with ICE.

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Speaker 2: This is why this president was elected to remove illegal

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Speaker 2: immigrants from the streets and to make the streets. Say

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Speaker 2: if Tony Katz, as I said, good to be with you.

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Speaker 2: So the Vice president now comes out, I hit pause

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, all right, vice President's going to speak.

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Speaker 2: Let's hear what he has to say, whether it's about what.

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Speaker 3: Happened with ICE or any other subject.

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Speaker 8: Good afternoon, everybody, and I want to echo some of

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Speaker 8: what Carolyn said about what we're doing to combat the

871
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:25,279
Speaker 8: rampant fraud that exists in our immigration system thanks to

872
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 8: failed politicians and thanks to people who allowed the American

873
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 8: taxpayer to be taken advantage of for far too long.

874
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Speaker 8: I think it's important to understand why this matters to

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00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 8: the American people. I am a father of three young kids.

876
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Speaker 3: A lot of kids, a lot of people in my generation.

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00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:42,839
Speaker 3: What is that going on?

878
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 2: There?

879
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 3: Is that normal?

880
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 8: Okay, CNN installed this broken camera just to throw me

881
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:50,239
Speaker 8: off my game, but it's not going to work.

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00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 3: So here's here's the simple fact. Here.

883
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 2: That sound that clicking is a broken y parent.

884
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Speaker 8: Struggling to afford childcare in the United States of America.

885
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 8: There are programs that we have to make it easier

886
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 8: for your kids to get in daycare, for your kids

887
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:08,320
Speaker 8: to get in preschool. Those programs should go to American citizens,

888
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 8: not be defrauded by Somali immigrants and others. Make it

889
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 8: hard for you to get the access to the resources

890
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 8: you need. But number two make it easier for people

891
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 8: who shouldn't even be in this country to fleece the

892
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 8: United States and our taxpayers. To begin with, we have

893
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Speaker 8: actually activated a major interagency task force to make it

894
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 8: possible to get to the heart of this fraud. We

895
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Speaker 8: have Department of Agriculture resources that are focused on snap fraud,

896
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Speaker 8: so that people who need food benefits can get them,

897
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Speaker 8: but illegal aliens.

898
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Speaker 3: And other fraudstres don't.

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Speaker 8: We have over fifteen hundred subpoenas that the Department of

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Speaker 8: Justice has issued to get to the heart of the

901
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Speaker 8: fraud ring. We've done almost one hundred indictments, mostly Somali immigrants,

902
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Speaker 8: but also a few others. And of course we're looking

903
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Speaker 8: in with broad investigatory authority to a number of the

904
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Speaker 8: instances of wrongdoing that we've seen in Minneapolis.

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Speaker 3: But we also want to expand this. We know that

906
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Speaker 3: the fraud isn't just happening in Minneapolis.

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Speaker 8: It's also happening in states like Ohio, It's happening in

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Speaker 8: states like California, and so what we're doing in order

909
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Speaker 8: to help coordinate this remarkable interagency effort from the Trump administration,

910
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Speaker 8: but also to make sure that we prosecute the bad

911
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Speaker 8: guys and do it as swiftly and efficiently as possible

912
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Speaker 8: is we are creating a new Assistant Attorney, a general

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Speaker 8: position who will have nationwide jurisdiction over the issue of fraud. Now,

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Speaker 8: of course that the Attorney General help and focused primarily

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Speaker 8: in Minnesota, but it is going to be a nationwide

916
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Speaker 8: effort because unfortunately, the American people have been defrauded in

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Speaker 8: a very nationwide way. I want to think a couple

918
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Speaker 8: of people for the cooperation, particular Pambondi, our Attorney General,

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Speaker 8: first of all, for getting a lot of resources to

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Speaker 8: Minneapolis to start to investigate and prosecute this fraud. Really

921
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Speaker 8: at an industrial scale we've never seen f I.

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Speaker 2: Don't mind them going after do I feel weird that

923
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Speaker 2: they felt like they had to create a new.

924
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Speaker 3: Position to do it uncovered?

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Speaker 2: But importantly to me, it.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't strike well.

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Speaker 2: But if they're going after, maybe my answer is, well, good,

928
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Speaker 2: let's go after the fraud, no matter who's committing it,

929
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Speaker 2: no matter their side of the issle, no matter where

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Speaker 2: they're from.

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Speaker 8: Hopefully in the next few days we'll obviously let you

932
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Speaker 8: guys know who that is when we do it. I've

933
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Speaker 8: talked to C Majority leader John Thun who has promised

934
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Speaker 8: me swift confirmation for this official. But this is the

935
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Speaker 8: person who is going to make sure that we stop

936
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Speaker 8: defrauding the American people.

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Speaker 3: Here's one final thing I'll say about this.

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Speaker 8: I've heard a lot of people say that we need

939
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Speaker 8: a special Council to investigate fraud in the United States

940
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Speaker 8: of America. I actually agree, and that's what this position

941
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Speaker 8: does and has all the benefits, all the resources, all

942
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Speaker 8: the authority of a special council, but with two crucial differences.

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Speaker 8: Number one, it will be run out of the White

944
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Speaker 8: House under the supervision of me and the President of the

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Speaker 8: United States. And number two, it's actually constitutionally legitimates. You

946
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Speaker 8: guys may know the Special Council Statute has some major

947
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Speaker 8: constitutional questions. When we get the bad guys, we want

948
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Speaker 8: to make sure sure we get them permanently and they

949
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Speaker 8: don't have some legal technicality they can get out of,

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Speaker 8: which is why we set it up.

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Speaker 3: As an Associate.

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Speaker 8: Attorney General, I'll take some questions, but I want to

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Speaker 8: make just one final observation here. When I was actually

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Speaker 8: walking out here, somebody send me a photo of a

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Speaker 8: CNN headline about what happened in Minneapolis, and this is

956
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Speaker 8: the headline.

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Speaker 3: I'm just going to read it.

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Speaker 8: Outrage after ice officer kills US citizen in Minneapolis. Well,

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Speaker 8: that's one way to put it, and that is the

960
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Speaker 8: way that many people in the corporate media have put

961
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Speaker 8: this attack over the last.

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Speaker 3: Twenty four hours.

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Speaker 8: And I say attack very very intentionally, because this was

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Speaker 8: an attack on federal law enforcement, This was an attack

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Speaker 8: on law and order, This was an attack.

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Speaker 3: On the American people.

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Speaker 8: The way that the media by and large has reported

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Speaker 8: this story has been an absolute disgrace and it puts

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Speaker 8: our law enforcement officers at risk every single day.

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Speaker 3: What that headline leaves out is the fact that that.

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Speaker 11: Very ice officer nearly had his life dragged by a

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Speaker 11: car six months ago, thirty three stitches in his life,

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Speaker 11: so you think maybe he's a little bit sensitive about

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Speaker 11: somebody ramming him with an automobile. What that headline leaves

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Speaker 11: out is that that woman was there to interfere with

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Speaker 11: a legitimate law enforcement operation in the United States of America.

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Speaker 11: What that headline leaves out is that that woman is

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Speaker 11: part of a broader left wing network to attack, to docks,

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Speaker 11: to assault, and to make it impossible for our ice

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01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 11: officers to do their job.

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Speaker 2: A couple things here. Number one, of course, the headline

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Speaker 2: is misleading no one would expect anything less from the

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Speaker 2: CNNs of the world.

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Speaker 3: Number two.

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Speaker 2: This goes to when Christinome referred to as domestic terrorism

986
01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 2: yesterday and again today. This is the White House getting

987
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:49,960
Speaker 2: into the messaging game like the left does. One of

988
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Speaker 2: the things you're going to see from the left is

989
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:55,320
Speaker 2: legal observer. Something you're gonna see from the left is

990
01:01:55,560 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 2: innocent woman. The White House is saying, no, no, no, get

991
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 2: to paint this year way. We're gonna paint it our

992
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:05,600
Speaker 2: way domestic terrorism and we're how and we're gonna come

993
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:08,160
Speaker 2: out strong against your narratives and we're gonna beat you

994
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:09,800
Speaker 2: over the head with it. What I would say to

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Speaker 2: the Vice President is if this guy was hit by

996
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Speaker 2: a car six months ago and at thirty three stitches,

997
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:17,680
Speaker 2: that is awful and goes to how ice agents are

998
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:21,080
Speaker 2: being attacked. But if he's sensitive, he shouldn't be on

999
01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:24,160
Speaker 2: the streets. You're doing him a disservice by saying that,

1000
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:28,160
Speaker 2: which is weird because any other parlance left to be like, aren't.

1001
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 3: You sensitive to this? Aren' you sensitive to that?

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01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 2: In this situation, that one doesn't play, so the least

1003
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Speaker 2: doesn't for me.

1004
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:38,480
Speaker 4: Now to the Q and A on his rhetoric and marriage.

1005
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 8: Talking about and comments, well, that's very tough rhetoric from

1006
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 8: a guy who just quit because his fraudulent activities have

1007
01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:48,360
Speaker 8: been uncovered. But Tim Walls is a joke. His entire

1008
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 8: administration has been a joke. The idea that he's some

1009
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:53,440
Speaker 8: sort of freedom fighter, he's not. He's a guy who

1010
01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:56,280
Speaker 8: has enabled fraud and maybe in fact, has participated in fraud.

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01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 8: That's what this new Assistant Attorney General position is going

1012
01:02:58,680 --> 01:02:59,200
Speaker 8: to find out.

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01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 3: I don't care what Tim Waltz says.

1014
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:02,720
Speaker 8: I care about getting to the bottom of this fraud

1015
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:04,920
Speaker 8: for the American people, and I care about enforcing the

1016
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:06,080
Speaker 8: nation's immigration laws.

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Speaker 3: That's what we're going to stay focused on.

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01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:11,440
Speaker 5: Your related question here, I mean, don't rest have a

1019
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 5: huge base of murder based that you're targeting Americans.

1020
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Speaker 3: They told the Pace to.

1021
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Speaker 6: Get the f out of Minnesota.

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Speaker 3: This is why you stoke the.

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Speaker 2: Fire against lice agents. If you're talking about ice agents

1024
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:25,160
Speaker 2: right now being serted of what if anything, she gets

1025
01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:30,200
Speaker 2: asked the way person make the Minneapolis mayor taking freight

1026
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 2: singer on the thumb.

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Speaker 6: Pieces here, their seizures here, and nobody wants to see

1028
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:38,280
Speaker 6: American hilt are there changes that age be made to

1029
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Speaker 6: make sure something like.

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Speaker 2: This doesn't happen yet?

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Speaker 8: But first of all, of course, nobody wants an American

1032
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 8: citizen to be killed. This is absolutely a tragedy, but

1033
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 8: it's a tragedy of the making.

1034
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:48,760
Speaker 3: Of the far left.

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Speaker 8: They have radicalized a very small segment of the population,

1036
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:56,360
Speaker 8: taught them that ICE agents are engaging in wide scale

1037
01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:57,960
Speaker 8: violation of people's rights.

1038
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Speaker 3: What our ICE.

1039
01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:03,280
Speaker 8: Officers are doing is deporting the millions of criminal aliens.

1040
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Speaker 3: That were let in during the Biden administration.

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Speaker 8: So number one, we have to say as a matter

1042
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Speaker 8: of leadership, and I would appreciate if the Democrats would

1043
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 8: join me on this, Let's be honest about the fact

1044
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:14,160
Speaker 8: that we have way too many illegal aliens in this country.

1045
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:16,800
Speaker 3: Our ICE officers should be supported in doing their job.

1046
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Speaker 8: You're trying to actually marshal the far left, lunatic fringe,

1047
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Speaker 8: to engage in.

1048
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Speaker 3: Doxing, to try to make it impossible for them to.

1049
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Speaker 8: Enforce the law, and in some cases actually to engage

1050
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Speaker 8: in acts of domestic terrorism against our law enforcement officers.

1051
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 8: When you talk about different plans, different protocols, different policies.

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Speaker 3: I forget exactly how you ask the question. Here's the

1053
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:38,640
Speaker 3: simple fact.

1054
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Speaker 8: What we're going to do is make it easier for

1055
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Speaker 8: the American People's Administration to enforce the American People's Law.

1056
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Speaker 8: And that means that Democrats have to stop rallying the

1057
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:53,160
Speaker 8: mob against legitimate law enforcement operations. And that means that

1058
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Speaker 8: we are going to get tougher. And that's what this

1059
01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:58,320
Speaker 8: AAG position is about. We're going to get tougher at

1060
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 8: the people who are defrauding the United States by inciting

1061
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Speaker 8: violence against our law enforcement officers. That's one of the

1062
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Speaker 8: things that we're going to do. We've already started that

1063
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Speaker 8: work at the Department of Justice. We're going to keep

1064
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Speaker 8: on doing it, and this new AAG position is going

1065
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Speaker 8: to kick that into high gear.

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Speaker 11: Sorry, my friends, in advance, you just suggested that this

1067
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Speaker 11: woman who was killed, Rene Good, is part of a

1068
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Speaker 11: broader left wing network.

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Speaker 3: Who do you think is behind this broader winge network. Well,

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Speaker 3: it's one of the things we're going to have to

1071
01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:29,320
Speaker 3: figure out. But here here's the way that I put it.

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Speaker 8: When somebody throws a brick an ICE agent, or somebody

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Speaker 8: tries to run over an ICE agent who paid for

1074
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Speaker 8: the brick and who told protesters to show up and

1075
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Speaker 8: engage in violent activity against our law enforcement officers. You

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Speaker 8: see just with this most recent terrible incident in Minneapolis,

1077
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Speaker 8: do you see friends of this woman's or other people

1078
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Speaker 8: who are eyewitnesses saying basically that she was there to

1079
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Speaker 8: engage in obstruction of a legitimate law enforcement operation.

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Speaker 3: How did she get there? How did she learn about this?

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Speaker 8: There's an entire network and frankly the media are participating

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Speaker 8: in it that is trying to incite violence against our

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Speaker 8: law enforcement. Although that's a doubted ridiculous, it's preposterous. There

1084
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Speaker 8: are people investigatory, vine is getting to the bottom up.

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Speaker 2: They want the fight, they want George Floyd two point

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Speaker 2: zero riots and unquestionable that part is unrelated question really true.

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Speaker 3: We're going to get to the bottom of that and

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Speaker 3: prosecute it where we can present. Thank you for taking

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Speaker 3: questions today.

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Speaker 7: Is there a risk you describing for as the range.

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Speaker 2: That is talking about very specific facts of these events

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Speaker 2: when an investigation is just beginning.

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Speaker 3: Are you pre empting.

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Speaker 2: A solid question whether or not rually investigating Thomas video

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Speaker 2: creating the office in the AG and the DJA. It's

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Speaker 2: not a better ask.

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Speaker 6: That has informed your point of view.

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Speaker 8: Well, first of all, the Department of Justice is going

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Speaker 8: to investigate this. The Department of Homeland Security is already

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Speaker 8: investigating this. But the simple fact is what you see

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Speaker 8: is what you get. In this case, you have a

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Speaker 8: woman who is trying to obs to a legitimate law

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Speaker 8: enforcement operation.

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Speaker 3: Nobody debates that. You have a woman who.

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Speaker 8: Aimed her car at a law enforcement officer and pressed

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Speaker 8: on the accelerator. Nobody debates that I can believe that

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Speaker 8: her death is a tragedy while also recognizing that it's

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Speaker 8: a tragedy of her own making and a tragedy of

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Speaker 8: the far left, who has marshaled an entire movement, a

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Speaker 8: lunatic fringe against our law enforcement officers. I think what

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Speaker 8: is clearly happening here, and it's going to keep on

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Speaker 8: happening unless the Democrats wake up and say, you know what,

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Speaker 8: you don't have to agree with our immigration policies.

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Speaker 3: You don't have to agree with.

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Speaker 8: What the president or the vice president believe about immigration enforcement.

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Speaker 8: But why don't you take this to the ballot box.

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Speaker 8: Why don't you vote? Why do you organize instead? What

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Speaker 8: some of them are doing, what some of them are

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Speaker 8: doing is encouraging people to get violent with our law

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Speaker 8: enforcement officials.

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Speaker 3: It's disgraceful and it's got.

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Speaker 2: To stop once again, one hundred percent true. Add more

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Speaker 2: of this on the flip side. Keep it right here.

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Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 8: She accelerated in a way where she ran into the guy.

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Speaker 8: I don't know what was in her heart and what

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Speaker 8: was in her head, but I know that she violated

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Speaker 8: the law, and I know that officer was acting in self.

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Speaker 3: Depends that. It is an interesting point though.

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Speaker 8: Look, if people want to say that we should have

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Speaker 8: a legitimate debate about what was she really doing? Right,

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Speaker 8: was she panicking when she drove into this officer or

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Speaker 8: was she actually trying to ram him? That's a reasonable conversation.

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Speaker 8: What's not reasonable is for so many of you to

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Speaker 8: plaster all over the media that this was an innocent

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Speaker 8: woman and that the ice agent committed murder, which is

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Speaker 8: what many of you have said explicitly and some of

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Speaker 8: you have said implicitly.

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Speaker 3: That's what that is.

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Speaker 2: Vance at his very very best, Tony Katz, Tony kats today,

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01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:41,759
Speaker 2: good to be here, good to be with you. And

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Speaker 2: as this presser has been going on. That's exactly what's

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01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:50,280
Speaker 2: been happening, trying to engage gotcha kind of questions. The

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01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:53,320
Speaker 2: argument here is what this woman did and why aren't

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Speaker 2: we discussing that? And an investigation should look into the

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Speaker 2: shooting and whether or not it was a good shoot.

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Speaker 2: That makes perfect sense that the Attorney General is going

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Speaker 2: to be creating a new position, a Deputy Attorney General,

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Speaker 2: to focus on these issues and focus on what JD.

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Speaker 2: Vans and Vice President refers to as a network that

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Speaker 2: is built to engage in violence against immigrations, customs enforcement,

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Speaker 2: and others. So this is happening from the White House briefing.

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Speaker 2: Let's take it back to the Vice President.

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Speaker 8: Treated by as a federal assassin by so many of

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Speaker 8: the people in this room. What I first of all,

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Speaker 8: let me say about crime. You mentioned violence. One of

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Speaker 8: the things we're proudest about is that you saw violent

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Speaker 8: crime over the last year dropped by twenty percent. Why

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01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:37,920
Speaker 8: is that dropped by twenty percent? Is it because we're

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Speaker 8: attacking our law enforcement officers or is it because we

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Speaker 8: in the administration are empowering our law enforcement officers to

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Speaker 8: enforce the law. I think that's one of the ways

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Speaker 8: you take down the temperature is you make people feel

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Speaker 8: more secure and safe in their person and property. That's

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Speaker 8: why we care so much about protecting our law enforcement,

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Speaker 8: because it accrues to the benefit of the entire national community.

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Speaker 3: I think that we can.

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Speaker 8: Absolutely talk about the ways in which we can try

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Speaker 8: to we can lower the temperature by discussing differences in

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Speaker 8: a reasonable and rational way. Again, I'm happy to talk

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Speaker 8: with any Congressional Democrat or any of you about our

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Speaker 8: immigration policy, about why I think it's necessary, that why

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Speaker 8: I think it's in the best interest of the country,

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Speaker 8: About why the President of the United States was elected

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Speaker 8: to actually enforce the border.

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Speaker 3: For the first time in at least four years.

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Speaker 8: So here's the problem. That's not the debate so many

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Speaker 8: people are having. They are actively covering for people who

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Speaker 8: are committing acts of violence against federal law enforcement.

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Speaker 3: It is preposterous. The way to take down the temperature

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Speaker 3: is to stop it.

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Speaker 8: Have your debates about policy, attack me, attack the president

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Speaker 8: the United States.

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Speaker 3: Don't attack our law enforcement officers.

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Speaker 8: They are trying to do the job the American people

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Speaker 8: demanded that they do that. They are not policy actors,

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Speaker 8: they are enforcing the law. They should be treated with

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Speaker 8: a modicum of dignity and respect to the fact that

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Speaker 8: they're not. Is why incidents like yesterday happen. The one

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Speaker 8: final point I'll make about this is, Look, there's a

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Speaker 8: part of me that feels very, very sad for this woman,

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Speaker 8: not just because she lost her life, but because I

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Speaker 8: think she is a victim of left wing ideology. What

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Speaker 8: young mother shows up and decides they're going to throw

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Speaker 8: their car in front of ice officers who are enforcing

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Speaker 8: legitimate law. You've got to be a little brainwashed to

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Speaker 8: get to that point to where you're willing not not

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Speaker 8: just to protest, that's fine, not peacefully protests, but throw

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Speaker 8: your vehicle in front of legitimate law enforcement officers.

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Speaker 2: And that brainwashing is what we were discussing earlier. The

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Speaker 2: lefts did this with President Trump, threat to democracy, threats

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Speaker 2: to this, threats to that, begging for a lone wolf.

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Speaker 2: Ice agents are Nazis. Ice agents are engaged in violence.

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Speaker 2: It's not American. That part is also true. More to

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Speaker 2: get to you keep it here, this is Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 1: Lie from val Hartbiner and the Crossroads of America.

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Speaker 3: It's Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 2: We need to have a serious conversation about people who

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01:12:12,280 --> 01:12:18,479
Speaker 2: are purposefully stupid. And I know what you're saying. What happened, Tony, Well,

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Speaker 2: something purposefully stupid, so absolutely ridiculous. It's not obtuse right,

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01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:30,160
Speaker 2: that word doesn't satisfy. This is about pretending that you're

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Speaker 2: an intellectual. Tony Katz, Tony Kats today, Good to be here,

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Speaker 2: good to be with you find everything at Tony kats

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Speaker 2: dot com. Let me go through this. Of course, you

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Speaker 2: know that the United States captured Nicholas Maduro, the strongman,

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Speaker 2: non leader of Venezuela, who did not allow for free elections.

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Speaker 2: I should take that back. Free elections happened. He did

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Speaker 2: not honor the results, state and power jail, Dithlemant's killed people, destroyed,

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Speaker 2: with Hugoshavez before him, the entire economy, in the entire

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Speaker 2: future of Venezuela, if it stayed under communism, there was

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Speaker 2: going to be no future. And the Venezuelan people cheered

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Speaker 2: when Maduro was arrested.

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Speaker 3: That raid.

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Speaker 2: Took a tremendous amount of planning. As we know, they

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Speaker 2: actually were able to understand what his compound to look like.

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Speaker 3: They rebuilt it, and they practiced.

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Speaker 2: Going in and capturing him over and over and over again,

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Speaker 2: and when the time came, they went in and they

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Speaker 2: captured him, they cuffed him, and they were able to

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Speaker 2: get him out quick and easy. Now it's not easy easy.

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Speaker 2: I mean people were killed along the way. Thirty two

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Speaker 2: Cubans who were doing security for him, twenty three Venezuelans

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Speaker 2: who were troops. They were killed. No Americans were harmed,

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Speaker 2: not a one. In our parlance, we would call that

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Speaker 2: a successful operation. Now share with you something that is

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01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:08,360
Speaker 2: purposefully stupid. There is somebody on Twitter X I never

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01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:10,599
Speaker 2: heard of before. Now I know what you're saying, Tony.

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Speaker 2: Did you just say it was on social media? Of

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Speaker 2: course it was purposely stupid. Hold, there's a reason I

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Speaker 2: bring it up, nov Steva. I don't know who this

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Speaker 2: dude is. I know that this dude has seventy one

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Speaker 2: thousand followers. It's more than I am on Twitter X.

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01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:36,920
Speaker 2: I'm at like fifty thousand. But I never really pushed it, like,

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01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:39,040
Speaker 2: because social media was never where I lived and breathed,

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Speaker 2: and I've only recently learned how these things are done.

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Speaker 2: And honestly, if you want to build up massive followings

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Speaker 2: on Twitter, you have to spend your life there and

1248
01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:51,519
Speaker 2: I would rather spend my life here. So let's go back.

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Speaker 2: This guy posts it took Delta Force. Of course, Delta

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01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:04,400
Speaker 2: force is is what went in. It took Delta force

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01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:10,040
Speaker 2: one hundred plus men plus a dozen navy ships to

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Speaker 2: capture one unarmed sixty three year old man and his

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Speaker 2: sixty nine year old wife. And it's got a picture

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Speaker 2: of Pete Hegseth giving a thumbs up.

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Speaker 3: Let me read that again.

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01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:29,400
Speaker 2: It took Delta Force one hundred plus men plus a

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Speaker 2: dozen navy ships to capture one unarmed sixty three year

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Speaker 2: old man and his sixty nine year old wife, picture

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Speaker 2: of hegseeth giving a thumbs up. That, ladies and gentlemen,

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Speaker 2: is purposefully stupid. Now why do I bring it up?

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Speaker 2: We already know why it's purposely stupid. We'll do that

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Speaker 2: part at the end. Why do we bring it up?

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Speaker 2: Because even though it's Twitter, it's social media. People are

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01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:55,439
Speaker 2: gonna look at that and say, yeah, we think our

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Speaker 2: military so tough. It took so many people just to

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Speaker 2: get one old guy. First, if we're talking that sixty

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Speaker 2: three years old is old. I don't know, I don't

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Speaker 2: know what's happen. Maybe I'm showing my age. I'm not

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Speaker 2: sixty three by any stretch, but still people live to

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Speaker 2: be ninety. Sixty three is still pretty young. I don't

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Speaker 2: think that's the argument. The argument is it was overkill.

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Speaker 2: The argument is our military is somehow so weak or

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Speaker 2: so incapable that they needed all these people to do

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Speaker 2: something that would be so easy.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't so easy.

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Speaker 2: It's certainly like wasn't like getting your grandma off the

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Speaker 2: couch after she fell. This is a precision operation, and

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Speaker 2: anybody who knows anything knows that in a situation like this,

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Speaker 2: you come in with what I can hear you saying,

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Speaker 2: it's say it a little bit louder, overwhelming force. That

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Speaker 2: is correct.

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Speaker 3: The problem with.

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Speaker 2: Statements like this, nonsense like this, absolutely garbage, ridiculousness like this.

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Speaker 3: Is that it gets shared.

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Speaker 2: This thing got four thousand likes, and people are gonna

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Speaker 2: start sharing this kind of stuff and talking this way

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Speaker 2: in every situation. Law enforcement, in military, the idea of

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Speaker 2: overwhelming force business is a key and fundamental role because

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Speaker 2: overwhelming force helps to guarantee victory and keeps people safer.

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Speaker 2: They've got a sixty nine year old woman and a

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Speaker 2: sixty three year old man, So we should have sent

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Speaker 2: in a sixty nine year old woman in a sixty

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Speaker 2: three year old man.

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Speaker 3: You gotta keep it fair. Who possibly would say such

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Speaker 3: a thing?

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Speaker 2: And I think that we could take it out of

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Speaker 2: the parlance of this of this social mediaism and you

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Speaker 2: can put it into anything where people get into the

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Speaker 2: idea of oh, it's too much. Oh look what Ice

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Speaker 2: is doing. Look at all these people. Wasn't that the

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Speaker 2: thing they were? Somebody got arrested legal immigrants some library

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Speaker 2: and there were a whole bunch of agents, and the

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01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:12,880
Speaker 2: left is like, look at how much these people are

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01:18:12,920 --> 01:18:15,719
Speaker 2: playing in kabuki theater, Like you need all these agents

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Speaker 2: to arrest one person. You and I have watched episodes

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Speaker 2: of Cops and we have seen guys out man police officers.

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Speaker 2: We've seen them out fight police officers. We've seen the

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Speaker 2: two on one fight. We've seen suspects who are stronger

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Speaker 2: than the cops. And I'm not just talking about the

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Speaker 2: female cops. Oh I'm gonna get emails for that. But

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Speaker 2: that does happen more often because men buying large stronger

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Speaker 2: than women. It's always a group, it's always a larger

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Speaker 2: amount of the force. When you look at these nonsense

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Speaker 2: rioters and they have these clashes with police. What happened.

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01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:02,479
Speaker 2: There's a police line. There's more riders than the police line.

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01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:05,840
Speaker 2: There's a police line. And then some guy will get

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01:19:05,880 --> 01:19:09,360
Speaker 2: a little too ridiculous. He'll get grabbed and swarm by

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01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:12,240
Speaker 2: like six cops, and then the line closes in to

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01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:17,960
Speaker 2: protect them. It's always overwhelming force. That is a listen,

1320
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Speaker 2: not a military guy, not a law enforcement guy. But

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01:19:21,320 --> 01:19:23,800
Speaker 2: I think every military guy in law enforcement guy. Well,

1322
01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:26,519
Speaker 2: I may have the words wrong, I have the concept right.

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01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:34,360
Speaker 2: That's safety. That's a standard operating procedure regarding safety. And

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01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:37,519
Speaker 2: if we were to sit and think about it, you

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01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:40,280
Speaker 2: and me and we're sitting on the barstool having a bourbon,

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01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:43,479
Speaker 2: wouldn't you think that's a better way to achieve victory

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01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:49,439
Speaker 2: overwhelm your opponent. I mean, can't we go back to

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01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:50,720
Speaker 2: Sun Sue.

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Speaker 3: Hold on?

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Speaker 2: Let me make sure ancient art of war, The Art

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01:19:56,000 --> 01:20:01,320
Speaker 2: of War by Son Sue Suh said, whoever is first

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01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:03,439
Speaker 2: in the field and awaits the coming of the enemy

1333
01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:06,000
Speaker 2: will be fresh for the fight. Whoever is second in

1334
01:20:06,040 --> 01:20:09,320
Speaker 2: the field and has to hasten to battle will arrive exhausted.

1335
01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:12,000
Speaker 3: Therefore, the clever combatant imposes.

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01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:13,439
Speaker 2: As well in the enemy, but does not allow the

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01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:16,439
Speaker 2: enemies will to be imposed on him. By holding out

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01:20:16,479 --> 01:20:19,320
Speaker 2: advantages to him, he can cause the enemy to approach

1339
01:20:19,360 --> 01:20:22,280
Speaker 2: of his own accord, or by inflicting damage, he can

1340
01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:25,200
Speaker 2: make it impossible for the enemy to draw near. And

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01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:29,840
Speaker 2: it goes on and on and on and on about

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01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:35,000
Speaker 2: how you defeat your opponent. Oh, you should really read sonsu. Yeah,

1343
01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:41,200
Speaker 2: and just as a life primer in the business context,

1344
01:20:41,560 --> 01:20:44,679
Speaker 2: in a philosophy context, which is really a conversation about

1345
01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:54,599
Speaker 2: reading stoics. If you're not reading Marcus Aurelius, you're making

1346
01:20:54,680 --> 01:21:03,760
Speaker 2: a huge mistake. The Meditations by Marcus Aurelius a Relius.

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01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:07,800
Speaker 2: By the way, au r E l I U s

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Speaker 2: Roman Empire. I'm sorry, yeah, Roman Empire. Yeah, I have

1349
01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:20,120
Speaker 2: that right, he was the Empire. I had to look

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Speaker 2: up the timing one sixty one to one. And stoicism

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01:21:28,800 --> 01:21:35,160
Speaker 2: is how does one describe stoicism. It's I don't think

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01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:37,160
Speaker 2: it's a lack of emotion. I would argue it's a

1353
01:21:37,160 --> 01:21:44,200
Speaker 2: control of emotion. It's about focus, it's about too many ways,

1354
01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:52,160
Speaker 2: the recognition that sacrifice is of value, about being able

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01:21:52,240 --> 01:21:55,320
Speaker 2: to stand strong. And again I go back to the emotion,

1356
01:21:56,160 --> 01:21:59,160
Speaker 2: which is where we are. And people are on the

1357
01:21:59,160 --> 01:22:01,040
Speaker 2: political right. He might be on the political right with me,

1358
01:22:01,080 --> 01:22:04,080
Speaker 2: but understand where I come from versus the political left.

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01:22:04,120 --> 01:22:06,800
Speaker 2: The political left is all emotional. I think it's a

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01:22:06,880 --> 01:22:11,680
Speaker 2: valueless proposition. Emotions are good. Running a life, a lifestyle,

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01:22:11,720 --> 01:22:15,439
Speaker 2: a government, a society on emotions terrible and horrific.

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01:22:16,439 --> 01:22:18,400
Speaker 3: Awful idea. It doesn't work.

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01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:23,880
Speaker 2: Marxism tries to exacerbate the emotional side. I am not

1364
01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:27,960
Speaker 2: there for that. There has to be a rational order

1365
01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:31,559
Speaker 2: to the universe, in a rational order to things. That's

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01:22:32,920 --> 01:22:37,400
Speaker 2: I guess, a good way to engage stoicism. Right.

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Speaker 3: These things matter.

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01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:42,840
Speaker 2: They're unbelievably helpful in trying to understand yourself in all ways,

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01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:45,519
Speaker 2: in all things, life is better when you can control

1370
01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:50,080
Speaker 2: your emotions and your emotions don't control you in all ways,

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01:22:50,240 --> 01:22:53,360
Speaker 2: and in all things, life is better when you can

1372
01:22:53,400 --> 01:22:56,400
Speaker 2: control your emotions and your emotions do not control you.

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01:22:56,880 --> 01:22:58,840
Speaker 2: That is true of men, It is true of women,

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01:22:59,080 --> 01:23:04,640
Speaker 2: is true of sons and husbands and wives, brothers and sisters. Everyone.

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01:23:05,360 --> 01:23:11,679
Speaker 2: It's important. No one thinks that one should walk into

1376
01:23:11,720 --> 01:23:19,280
Speaker 2: a battle unready for battle. Also, as we state with

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01:23:19,400 --> 01:23:22,679
Speaker 2: the amount of Venezuelans and Cubans were killed, it wasn't

1378
01:23:22,720 --> 01:23:25,920
Speaker 2: about one man and one woman. It was about having

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01:23:25,960 --> 01:23:28,479
Speaker 2: to defeat what you didn't know was the army because

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01:23:29,760 --> 01:23:33,600
Speaker 2: Maduro lived on an army base. It was about defeating

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01:23:33,880 --> 01:23:42,720
Speaker 2: them to be able to get the target. The ignorance,

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01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:49,200
Speaker 2: the willful ignorance of this post, and I mean, it

1383
01:23:49,280 --> 01:23:52,240
Speaker 2: is what it is. Do you know how purposefully stupid

1384
01:23:52,520 --> 01:23:54,400
Speaker 2: you have to be to make a statement like the

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01:23:54,439 --> 01:23:57,160
Speaker 2: one below and think it's smart. That's what I put

1386
01:23:58,360 --> 01:24:05,720
Speaker 2: on Twitter X purposefully stupid. I have to assume the

1387
01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:08,160
Speaker 2: guy knows better. But he's like, ah, I'll get in

1388
01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:12,000
Speaker 2: a dig. Look at me, there's a dig. It's not

1389
01:24:12,120 --> 01:24:16,759
Speaker 2: a dig. It is a great example of why people

1390
01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:20,520
Speaker 2: like him and people who engage this kind of philosophy

1391
01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:23,600
Speaker 2: hate Trump, hate heg Seth with everything in you.

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Speaker 3: It's why they cannot be allowed to lead. You can't

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01:24:29,960 --> 01:24:34,200
Speaker 3: let them lead the country. They cannot get votes. They're

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01:24:34,240 --> 01:24:45,080
Speaker 3: not good enough, They're fundamentally dumb. They are what they are,

1395
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Speaker 3: what they are.

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Speaker 2: Now you could say to me, you know, Tony, when

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01:24:50,120 --> 01:24:52,559
Speaker 2: these people do have power, they seem to be willing

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01:24:52,600 --> 01:24:57,880
Speaker 2: to fight. Oh, you're talking about an old school vestige

1399
01:24:58,439 --> 01:25:03,599
Speaker 2: of democrats that is falling by the wayside every single day.

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Speaker 3: They aren't willing. More and more and more they aren't willing.

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01:25:13,040 --> 01:25:16,960
Speaker 2: They would continue to allow the abuses, allow.

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01:25:16,800 --> 01:25:19,240
Speaker 3: China and Russia to get.

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01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:22,360
Speaker 2: Closer and closer, to gain more control in South America,

1404
01:25:22,640 --> 01:25:25,559
Speaker 2: give up the western hemisphere and allow themselves to be

1405
01:25:25,640 --> 01:25:32,559
Speaker 2: overtaken because their ignorance forces it. And they would look

1406
01:25:32,560 --> 01:25:34,960
Speaker 2: at this and say it's too much. You still have

1407
01:25:35,040 --> 01:25:37,519
Speaker 2: a keem Jeffrey saying it was wrong to take Maduro.

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01:25:40,479 --> 01:25:45,000
Speaker 2: The people of Venezuela are cheering, and he is like, oh,

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01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:45,400
Speaker 2: what an.

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01:25:45,320 --> 01:25:49,160
Speaker 3: Awful thing you could say to me, Tony.

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01:25:49,280 --> 01:25:52,040
Speaker 2: I think you're overreacting a little bit to one post.

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01:25:52,520 --> 01:25:55,479
Speaker 2: It's not really about the post, is it. It's about

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01:25:55,520 --> 01:26:00,519
Speaker 2: an idea. It's about an absolute viciousness from the left

1414
01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:03,800
Speaker 2: to distort all things. And as Melanie Phillips talks about

1415
01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:09,080
Speaker 2: and we talk about here, a destroying reason. It's an

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01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:12,920
Speaker 2: illogical statement that people in an illogical world will say, Yeah,

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01:26:12,960 --> 01:26:14,240
Speaker 2: why they need so many people?

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01:26:14,280 --> 01:26:15,360
Speaker 3: That's just so unfair.

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01:26:16,840 --> 01:26:19,200
Speaker 2: These are the same people who look at twelve hundred

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01:26:19,240 --> 01:26:21,760
Speaker 2: murdered in Israel. Then see the response and say, well,

1421
01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:24,479
Speaker 2: that's just too much. What do you mean it's too much?

1422
01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:28,320
Speaker 2: Too much? Too much? What the hell is that.

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01:26:30,160 --> 01:26:31,439
Speaker 3: It isn't too much?

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01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:35,960
Speaker 2: Every member of Hamas should be killed and wiped off

1425
01:26:35,960 --> 01:26:40,120
Speaker 2: the earth, that anybody who supports them gone, and then

1426
01:26:40,160 --> 01:26:43,760
Speaker 2: it'll be almost just enough. No.

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01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:47,720
Speaker 3: My concern is that things like this permeate.

1428
01:26:49,240 --> 01:26:54,160
Speaker 2: The stupidity grows, and we need to be people who

1429
01:26:54,240 --> 01:26:58,040
Speaker 2: call it out and stop it before it destroys us,

1430
01:26:58,880 --> 01:27:04,200
Speaker 2: before the purpose. It's fully stupid, get us hurt. Good

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01:27:04,280 --> 01:27:06,800
Speaker 2: job by Delta Force. This is Tony Katz today.

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01:27:07,160 --> 01:27:09,840
Speaker 12: I mean it's it's devastating. I mean, I mean it's

1433
01:27:09,880 --> 01:27:14,799
Speaker 12: absolutely tragedy. My heart goes out to her, to her family.

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01:27:14,840 --> 01:27:17,080
Speaker 12: I mean, I don't know the circumstances. I haven't seen

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01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:21,120
Speaker 12: the actual video, but a life is loft. I mean

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01:27:21,160 --> 01:27:26,000
Speaker 12: it's a tragedy and absolutely and you know my views.

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01:27:26,040 --> 01:27:32,800
Speaker 12: I support ICE about deporting criminals. I don't support and

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01:27:32,960 --> 01:27:36,400
Speaker 12: understand if you want to target otherwise hardworking people.

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01:27:37,280 --> 01:27:39,000
Speaker 2: And I think that's where a lot of people are.

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01:27:39,920 --> 01:27:42,240
Speaker 2: I don't know what happened that made John Fetterman, a

1441
01:27:42,320 --> 01:27:45,439
Speaker 2: voice of reason. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to

1442
01:27:45,439 --> 01:27:47,840
Speaker 2: be here, good to be with you. That's the center

1443
01:27:47,880 --> 01:27:51,559
Speaker 2: from Pennsylvania Democrat who the Democrats hate. They're gonna vote

1444
01:27:51,560 --> 01:27:53,640
Speaker 2: amount office. They're going to spend money to vote him

1445
01:27:53,640 --> 01:27:56,080
Speaker 2: out office. That's because of his support for Israel. But

1446
01:27:56,120 --> 01:27:59,800
Speaker 2: in this conversation about this Ice agent, remember this is

1447
01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:02,880
Speaker 2: a shooting involving an ICE agent and that left a

1448
01:28:02,880 --> 01:28:07,080
Speaker 2: woman dead. That's different how the Democrats are screaming Ice

1449
01:28:07,200 --> 01:28:10,280
Speaker 2: murdered a woman. They murder her in cold blood. Ice

1450
01:28:10,360 --> 01:28:15,640
Speaker 2: is the Gestapo. Remember this, The political left wants to

1451
01:28:15,680 --> 01:28:19,240
Speaker 2: see Ice agents killed. Now, you say to me, that's harsh,

1452
01:28:19,520 --> 01:28:22,679
Speaker 2: And I'll say to you, I'm looking at what they're saying,

1453
01:28:23,360 --> 01:28:26,240
Speaker 2: and I don't know how one could rationally come to

1454
01:28:26,280 --> 01:28:29,040
Speaker 2: any other conclusion. Remember where are the people who said

1455
01:28:29,160 --> 01:28:31,519
Speaker 2: from the very beginning, and I know Scott Jennings is

1456
01:28:31,560 --> 01:28:34,519
Speaker 2: now talking about it, which is super great. The left

1457
01:28:34,520 --> 01:28:37,800
Speaker 2: has been saying Trump is a threat. Trump is a threat.

1458
01:28:37,880 --> 01:28:41,520
Speaker 2: Trump is a threat. They've been saying it for years

1459
01:28:42,920 --> 01:28:44,920
Speaker 2: because they were looking for a lone wolf. They were

1460
01:28:44,960 --> 01:28:50,160
Speaker 2: looking for somebody to kill Donald Trump, and they had

1461
01:28:50,200 --> 01:28:52,240
Speaker 2: somebody give it a shot in Butler, Pennsylvania.

1462
01:28:52,680 --> 01:28:54,200
Speaker 3: Thank goodness it didn't happen.

1463
01:28:55,560 --> 01:28:59,960
Speaker 2: We don't all talk about it often, but you understand

1464
01:29:00,040 --> 01:29:02,240
Speaker 2: and that the horror of.

1465
01:29:02,360 --> 01:29:04,240
Speaker 3: Charlie Kirk's assassination is that.

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01:29:04,240 --> 01:29:08,840
Speaker 2: We saw it more than it happened, is that they

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01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:10,800
Speaker 2: did it right in front of us, and they didn't

1468
01:29:10,880 --> 01:29:15,000
Speaker 2: give a blank Do you know how they would have

1469
01:29:15,200 --> 01:29:21,040
Speaker 2: cheered if Trump had been killed in that moment? What

1470
01:29:21,240 --> 01:29:24,320
Speaker 2: is our mind like if we.

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01:29:24,479 --> 01:29:25,360
Speaker 3: Had watched it.

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01:29:28,200 --> 01:29:31,760
Speaker 2: It's a question, and it's one that I'm glad that

1473
01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:34,160
Speaker 2: we don't have to answer. I wish we didn't have

1474
01:29:34,160 --> 01:29:38,200
Speaker 2: to answer it regarding Charlie Kirk, but they want. I mean,

1475
01:29:38,680 --> 01:29:39,840
Speaker 2: the call for the lone wolf.

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01:29:40,200 --> 01:29:42,439
Speaker 3: Trump's a threat. Trump's a threat. We have to do somebody,

1477
01:29:42,479 --> 01:29:43,839
Speaker 3: won't somebody do something?

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01:29:44,160 --> 01:29:49,360
Speaker 2: Wing wink. That's what's happening here with ice agents and

1479
01:29:49,479 --> 01:29:53,280
Speaker 2: the political left. And what Fetterman is saying is can

1480
01:29:53,280 --> 01:29:55,800
Speaker 2: everybody just calm down for a bit. I don't support that.

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01:29:55,840 --> 01:30:00,360
Speaker 12: I never have on that. I remained pro pro wrongly

1482
01:30:00,800 --> 01:30:04,320
Speaker 12: immigration and that's never going to change. So let's see

1483
01:30:04,360 --> 01:30:07,720
Speaker 12: here we are now where a woman instead, and that's

1484
01:30:07,840 --> 01:30:12,280
Speaker 12: tragedy and you know, we'll know, you know the circumstances.

1485
01:30:12,280 --> 01:30:14,640
Speaker 12: I'm not going to make any judgment other than just

1486
01:30:14,760 --> 01:30:18,160
Speaker 12: express my sympathy for the family. I mean, just what

1487
01:30:18,280 --> 01:30:18,799
Speaker 12: a tragedy.

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01:30:18,960 --> 01:30:21,120
Speaker 13: The mayor of Minneapolis said that I should get the

1489
01:30:21,240 --> 01:30:22,960
Speaker 13: half out of the city.

1490
01:30:23,280 --> 01:30:24,880
Speaker 2: You think they should get out.

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01:30:25,920 --> 01:30:27,560
Speaker 12: I mean, I'm not that close to the kind of

1492
01:30:27,640 --> 01:30:30,040
Speaker 12: violence and the tragedy, so I don't want to judge that.

1493
01:30:30,120 --> 01:30:32,559
Speaker 12: But but for me, I think it's all probably always

1494
01:30:32,640 --> 01:30:34,920
Speaker 12: more helpful to turn the temperature down.

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01:30:35,560 --> 01:30:38,920
Speaker 2: That is a Democrat saying, can we find out what happened? First?

1496
01:30:39,160 --> 01:30:44,559
Speaker 2: Everybody not get crazy? And the mayor of Minneapolis, Jacob Fray, screaming, hey, Ice,

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01:30:44,600 --> 01:30:47,679
Speaker 2: get the blank out of Minneapolis, does no good. By

1498
01:30:47,720 --> 01:30:51,840
Speaker 2: the way, tough guy Frey he is. He is such

1499
01:30:51,960 --> 01:30:55,519
Speaker 2: a beta male child. Show that guy to your kids

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01:30:55,560 --> 01:30:57,960
Speaker 2: and then tell your kids to start lifting weights. Immediately.

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01:30:59,000 --> 01:31:02,519
Speaker 2: You've got Jacob, You've got this woman who is the

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01:31:02,640 --> 01:31:06,479
Speaker 2: tenant manager there in New York, see a weaver. Look

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01:31:06,520 --> 01:31:09,320
Speaker 2: how tough they are, and look how good they are.

1504
01:31:09,320 --> 01:31:11,400
Speaker 3: Because they utilized the force of government.

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01:31:11,640 --> 01:31:14,800
Speaker 2: These are the people who got picked last for kickball,

1506
01:31:15,320 --> 01:31:17,599
Speaker 2: and now they're taking it out on all of us

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01:31:17,880 --> 01:31:20,559
Speaker 2: with their Marxist pseudo intellectualism.

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01:31:20,760 --> 01:31:23,840
Speaker 3: They're not tough, Jacob Fray and tough.

1509
01:31:23,880 --> 01:31:29,120
Speaker 2: Seriously, get your kids lifting weights, more testosterone something you

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01:31:29,160 --> 01:31:32,120
Speaker 2: don't want to end up full Fray because full Pray

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01:31:32,160 --> 01:31:34,519
Speaker 2: is one step away from that chick in New York.

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Speaker 2: This is Tony Katz today. So was it an act

1513
01:31:43,080 --> 01:31:46,760
Speaker 2: of domestics terrorism? That's what Homeland Security said regarding the

1514
01:31:46,800 --> 01:31:51,240
Speaker 2: woman who was in her car blocking traffic when she

1515
01:31:52,080 --> 01:31:55,679
Speaker 2: backed up, didn't listen to officers, started at and then

1516
01:31:55,800 --> 01:31:59,280
Speaker 2: turned where an officer was, and then she was shot

1517
01:31:59,320 --> 01:32:01,960
Speaker 2: and killed. Tony Cats, Tony Kats today, Good to be here,

1518
01:32:02,439 --> 01:32:05,000
Speaker 2: Good to be with you. The Secretary of Homeland Security,

1519
01:32:05,080 --> 01:32:09,960
Speaker 2: Christy Nome, had a presser in New York talking about

1520
01:32:10,640 --> 01:32:16,040
Speaker 2: the arrests and deportations of illegal alien criminals, and so

1521
01:32:16,120 --> 01:32:18,400
Speaker 2: I wanted to share some of that with you, But

1522
01:32:18,479 --> 01:32:23,120
Speaker 2: it was interesting the immediate response of domestic terrorist. This

1523
01:32:23,160 --> 01:32:25,920
Speaker 2: woman was a domestic terrorist. Now the left will tell

1524
01:32:25,920 --> 01:32:28,880
Speaker 2: you this was a mom. You killed a mom. And

1525
01:32:28,920 --> 01:32:31,880
Speaker 2: then people like Chris Hayes, as I pointed out from

1526
01:32:32,240 --> 01:32:35,680
Speaker 2: MS now miss Now went on Stephen Colbert's show and

1527
01:32:35,680 --> 01:32:40,240
Speaker 2: basically told a false not basically a false story about

1528
01:32:40,240 --> 01:32:40,679
Speaker 2: what happened.

1529
01:32:40,720 --> 01:32:45,519
Speaker 3: Claimed the kid was in the car. No, this woman's

1530
01:32:45,600 --> 01:32:48,599
Speaker 3: child was not in the car. That didn't happen.

1531
01:32:49,960 --> 01:32:52,120
Speaker 2: Nor did Chris Hayes admit to the fact that this

1532
01:32:52,160 --> 01:32:55,240
Speaker 2: woman was blocking traffic. There are reports that she had

1533
01:32:55,240 --> 01:32:58,599
Speaker 2: been engaged in trying to coordinate people to block traffic

1534
01:32:58,880 --> 01:33:02,519
Speaker 2: for immigrations and customer enforcement, that she was in gaining

1535
01:33:02,560 --> 01:33:04,679
Speaker 2: that she didn't listen to officers, that she was parked

1536
01:33:05,240 --> 01:33:12,000
Speaker 2: sideways blocking traffic in a roadway. I mean, there is

1537
01:33:12,080 --> 01:33:14,840
Speaker 2: a whole moment in the video where the car that

1538
01:33:14,880 --> 01:33:16,799
Speaker 2: she's in, the SUV I think it's a Honda Pilot,

1539
01:33:17,960 --> 01:33:20,840
Speaker 2: kind of kind of spins out on a piece of ice.

1540
01:33:21,840 --> 01:33:24,080
Speaker 3: If the ice wasn't there.

1541
01:33:25,479 --> 01:33:29,559
Speaker 2: Is the officer struck like head on, like flying as

1542
01:33:29,560 --> 01:33:35,040
Speaker 2: opposed to just swiped. I don't know if in the

1543
01:33:35,080 --> 01:33:38,640
Speaker 2: world of law enforcement it's a would the expression be

1544
01:33:38,680 --> 01:33:42,600
Speaker 2: a good shoot. I'm not trying to downplay it, I

1545
01:33:42,800 --> 01:33:48,760
Speaker 2: say an investigation. But these people screaming ices, murderers, ICE's gestapo,

1546
01:33:48,920 --> 01:33:53,160
Speaker 2: there's no place for them. They're despicable. But it brings

1547
01:33:53,240 --> 01:33:56,000
Speaker 2: up now this conversation of immediately branding this woman a

1548
01:33:56,000 --> 01:34:00,519
Speaker 2: domestic terrorist, which is really interesting because she you and me,

1549
01:34:01,560 --> 01:34:03,639
Speaker 2: it might hit the ear really awful.

1550
01:34:05,240 --> 01:34:07,679
Speaker 3: Right, we don't think like that. We're like, boa, first, give.

1551
01:34:07,600 --> 01:34:11,519
Speaker 2: Us what happened? What is that? That is the Trump

1552
01:34:11,600 --> 01:34:18,240
Speaker 2: administration using leftist tactics against them domestic terrorists? I'm sorry,

1553
01:34:18,240 --> 01:34:21,519
Speaker 2: what domesiarists? We said, domestic terroists are domestic terrorists. And

1554
01:34:21,560 --> 01:34:22,320
Speaker 2: now there it is.

1555
01:34:23,479 --> 01:34:26,200
Speaker 3: You have painted the story, You have painted the subject.

1556
01:34:26,560 --> 01:34:28,960
Speaker 2: And did the left immediately go.

1557
01:34:28,920 --> 01:34:31,000
Speaker 3: To murder and gestapo?

1558
01:34:32,080 --> 01:34:34,720
Speaker 2: Oh and if you take a look all of the

1559
01:34:34,880 --> 01:34:39,599
Speaker 2: leftists out there posting on their social media, this woman

1560
01:34:39,760 --> 01:34:44,759
Speaker 2: was what not just a mom, not an American citizen?

1561
01:34:45,800 --> 01:34:50,799
Speaker 2: Legal observer watch for that term. It is freaking everywhere.

1562
01:34:51,000 --> 01:34:54,040
Speaker 2: Some people who were reaching out to me about this, like, yeah,

1563
01:34:54,080 --> 01:34:55,760
Speaker 2: I see it too, You see it too, We all

1564
01:34:55,800 --> 01:34:58,640
Speaker 2: see it. If you haven't yet because you're you know,

1565
01:34:58,760 --> 01:35:02,120
Speaker 2: living a life and you're not twenty four to seven

1566
01:35:02,160 --> 01:35:04,559
Speaker 2: in this muck and meer like me, Uh.

1567
01:35:05,360 --> 01:35:06,280
Speaker 3: Start paying attention.

1568
01:35:06,840 --> 01:35:10,080
Speaker 2: Just see if you notice legal observer and especially in

1569
01:35:10,120 --> 01:35:12,640
Speaker 2: this story, and you'll be like, oh my gosh, how

1570
01:35:12,640 --> 01:35:13,240
Speaker 2: many times.

1571
01:35:13,040 --> 01:35:16,240
Speaker 3: Does this come up? It's as if the left got

1572
01:35:16,280 --> 01:35:16,799
Speaker 3: the memo.

1573
01:35:18,120 --> 01:35:22,439
Speaker 2: Remember when Kamala Harris's campaign was all about joy. It

1574
01:35:22,520 --> 01:35:28,280
Speaker 2: was the campaign of joy, same thing. Everybody was talking

1575
01:35:28,280 --> 01:35:32,120
Speaker 2: about joy. Everything was joy. It was all so much joy,

1576
01:35:32,320 --> 01:35:36,320
Speaker 2: joy to joy joy joy. Oh what but.

1577
01:35:36,280 --> 01:35:39,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I did that to the thound song loud what?

1578
01:35:39,200 --> 01:35:42,439
Speaker 3: I can't have a past? How dare you?

1579
01:35:42,520 --> 01:35:45,559
Speaker 2: Everything was about the joy, nothing but the joy, twenty

1580
01:35:45,560 --> 01:35:48,960
Speaker 2: four to seven joy, because that was the narrative. The

1581
01:35:49,080 --> 01:35:53,479
Speaker 2: narrative here is legal observer. She didn't do anything wrong.

1582
01:35:54,000 --> 01:35:57,720
Speaker 2: She was just a legal observer blocking a roadway with

1583
01:35:57,760 --> 01:36:02,280
Speaker 2: a vehicle and then not to the orders of law enforcement. Now,

1584
01:36:02,320 --> 01:36:04,280
Speaker 2: I do think there's an interesting question one of the

1585
01:36:04,280 --> 01:36:07,599
Speaker 2: things I'd like to get an answer to if can

1586
01:36:07,680 --> 01:36:11,240
Speaker 2: ICE Immigrations and Customs enforcement or do you off the

1587
01:36:11,280 --> 01:36:13,800
Speaker 2: road or do you need law enforcement as a local

1588
01:36:13,800 --> 01:36:15,639
Speaker 2: police to do that or state police to do that.

1589
01:36:16,720 --> 01:36:18,760
Speaker 3: I'm not condoning anything this woman did.

1590
01:36:19,360 --> 01:36:23,320
Speaker 2: I will say for the record, this woman put herself

1591
01:36:23,439 --> 01:36:31,080
Speaker 2: in a position to have bad things happen, blocking the roadway,

1592
01:36:32,000 --> 01:36:35,920
Speaker 2: as is reported, trying to engage and instigate with ICE,

1593
01:36:36,040 --> 01:36:39,679
Speaker 2: looking for the issue, and then not listening to orders.

1594
01:36:39,840 --> 01:36:43,360
Speaker 3: The question before us is, and I mean not the question,

1595
01:36:43,400 --> 01:36:44,479
Speaker 3: but a question that I have.

1596
01:36:46,080 --> 01:36:50,000
Speaker 2: Can ICE do that? I would assume that, in pursuit

1597
01:36:50,080 --> 01:36:54,040
Speaker 2: of their duties they can do that. I'm assuming that

1598
01:36:54,200 --> 01:36:57,200
Speaker 2: is written into some code and some law somewhere. I

1599
01:36:57,200 --> 01:37:02,360
Speaker 2: would assume that to be accurate, that they can order

1600
01:37:02,400 --> 01:37:05,360
Speaker 2: somebody out of a vehicle, do a whole host of things.

1601
01:37:05,800 --> 01:37:09,280
Speaker 2: Now you say to me, well, she's an American citizen.

1602
01:37:09,320 --> 01:37:13,880
Speaker 2: She doesn't have to listen what an American citizen doesn't

1603
01:37:13,880 --> 01:37:15,040
Speaker 2: have to listen to law enforcement?

1604
01:37:17,120 --> 01:37:18,839
Speaker 3: Well, it's obviously it's not law enforcement.

1605
01:37:19,520 --> 01:37:20,200
Speaker 2: What did she know?

1606
01:37:20,840 --> 01:37:21,040
Speaker 8: When?

1607
01:37:21,080 --> 01:37:21,800
Speaker 3: Did she know it?

1608
01:37:22,280 --> 01:37:23,360
Speaker 2: Did she ask questions?

1609
01:37:23,439 --> 01:37:26,760
Speaker 3: Did she try and get information? Was it ascertained?

1610
01:37:27,479 --> 01:37:31,679
Speaker 2: I don't believe in the American losing rights at all.

1611
01:37:31,720 --> 01:37:36,800
Speaker 2: In the slightest. I'm saying that there were two moments

1612
01:37:37,120 --> 01:37:39,000
Speaker 2: where she didn't have to do the thing.

1613
01:37:39,080 --> 01:37:42,120
Speaker 3: She did three actually, and she did them all.

1614
01:37:43,280 --> 01:37:45,920
Speaker 2: I didn't want her shot. I don't want anybody's shot.

1615
01:37:46,479 --> 01:37:48,519
Speaker 2: I want ICE to do their job, and I want

1616
01:37:48,520 --> 01:37:51,679
Speaker 2: people not to be criminally insane. But as we discussed earlier,

1617
01:37:51,840 --> 01:37:54,000
Speaker 2: it is very obvious that these people want to kill

1618
01:37:54,040 --> 01:37:57,960
Speaker 2: ICE agents, and so were also clear. It's like they

1619
01:37:57,960 --> 01:38:01,960
Speaker 2: were waiting for this moment, like the left is overjoyed

1620
01:38:02,080 --> 01:38:04,120
Speaker 2: about this moment. You know how much they were jetting

1621
01:38:04,200 --> 01:38:07,040
Speaker 2: up a George Floyd type riot last night, the political left.

1622
01:38:07,479 --> 01:38:09,519
Speaker 2: I'm amazed it didn't happen. I don't know about you.

1623
01:38:10,080 --> 01:38:12,439
Speaker 2: I'm amazed. And some people were like, Tony, it's it's

1624
01:38:12,479 --> 01:38:15,200
Speaker 2: it's really cold and this woman is white. They're not

1625
01:38:15,200 --> 01:38:18,640
Speaker 2: gonna do that. You're not gonna have those riots. And

1626
01:38:18,720 --> 01:38:21,840
Speaker 2: my immediate response is, I hear you. I don't believe that.

1627
01:38:23,760 --> 01:38:27,320
Speaker 2: I don't think that you now have a case of well,

1628
01:38:27,360 --> 01:38:30,479
Speaker 2: we'd be really angry at Ice, but the dead woman's white,

1629
01:38:30,520 --> 01:38:39,320
Speaker 2: So what evs the the The hatred is ideological and

1630
01:38:39,479 --> 01:38:44,640
Speaker 2: the woman in question can be painted as the oppressed

1631
01:38:45,000 --> 01:38:48,519
Speaker 2: versus the Ice suppressor, so it fits their narrative and

1632
01:38:48,520 --> 01:38:52,439
Speaker 2: their dogma. So I I do you understand? Am I

1633
01:38:52,479 --> 01:38:54,800
Speaker 2: making am I making sense? Like I hear you when

1634
01:38:54,840 --> 01:38:57,200
Speaker 2: you say if the woman was black, because these people

1635
01:38:57,240 --> 01:39:01,040
Speaker 2: are all identity based, they would they would have engaged

1636
01:39:01,080 --> 01:39:01,519
Speaker 2: the riots.

1637
01:39:01,560 --> 01:39:02,320
Speaker 3: And they did.

1638
01:39:02,080 --> 01:39:04,599
Speaker 2: Surround the courthouse, they did break windows and things like that,

1639
01:39:05,600 --> 01:39:08,000
Speaker 2: and then they were chanting weird stuff Do I have?

1640
01:39:09,400 --> 01:39:11,679
Speaker 2: Do I have the weird stuff that they were chanting.

1641
01:39:11,760 --> 01:39:15,120
Speaker 2: I hold on, I know, I do. I know I

1642
01:39:15,240 --> 01:39:19,200
Speaker 2: do because I saw Anthony Know post about it here.

1643
01:39:19,240 --> 01:39:22,200
Speaker 2: It is you want to talk about weird, you want

1644
01:39:22,240 --> 01:39:24,960
Speaker 2: to talk about weird. This is some of the stuff

1645
01:39:25,000 --> 01:39:45,160
Speaker 2: that was being chanted last night. They're chanting about stolen land.

1646
01:39:46,800 --> 01:39:49,000
Speaker 2: So my, by the way, there's a bunch of people,

1647
01:39:49,040 --> 01:39:51,120
Speaker 2: a lot of people, and that's a thousand people plus.

1648
01:39:51,840 --> 01:39:57,639
Speaker 2: I'm saying that their ideology is more than just color

1649
01:39:57,680 --> 01:40:00,639
Speaker 2: of skin. When you're talking about the Marxist as long

1650
01:40:00,680 --> 01:40:05,080
Speaker 2: as you can paint it as oppressed a pressor, you're good, right,

1651
01:40:05,200 --> 01:40:09,040
Speaker 2: It's fine, you're gonna you're gonna, you're gonna get people

1652
01:40:09,080 --> 01:40:11,160
Speaker 2: on your side. You're gonna totally be able to do this.

1653
01:40:11,280 --> 01:40:16,439
Speaker 2: So that's the the the the idea that the riot

1654
01:40:16,479 --> 01:40:18,880
Speaker 2: didn't happen, and the left jitting it out to me

1655
01:40:19,040 --> 01:40:23,040
Speaker 2: was kind of amazing. I was was shocked that it

1656
01:40:23,240 --> 01:40:29,960
Speaker 2: did not take place. Meanwhile, Christino Homeland Security secretary, this

1657
01:40:30,120 --> 01:40:32,320
Speaker 2: presser that that took place.

1658
01:40:33,040 --> 01:40:34,360
Speaker 3: Let me bring you some of that right here.

1659
01:40:34,720 --> 01:40:36,880
Speaker 6: And today we're here to talk about an operation that's

1660
01:40:36,920 --> 01:40:39,800
Speaker 6: been going on for several months. In fact, after an

1661
01:40:39,800 --> 01:40:43,559
Speaker 6: incident happened here in New York City. That brought us

1662
01:40:44,000 --> 01:40:46,160
Speaker 6: to a point where we recognized that we had to

1663
01:40:46,200 --> 01:40:50,839
Speaker 6: work together in order to bring illegal criminal aliens to justice.

1664
01:40:51,040 --> 01:40:55,360
Speaker 6: Nearly six months ago, two criminal illegal aliens attacked an

1665
01:40:55,400 --> 01:40:58,920
Speaker 6: off duty Customs and Border Protection agent and his friend

1666
01:40:58,960 --> 01:41:00,920
Speaker 6: while they were sitting on a rock in a park

1667
01:41:01,439 --> 01:41:05,519
Speaker 6: after hours enjoying the evening together. These two criminals came

1668
01:41:05,560 --> 01:41:09,639
Speaker 6: and attempted to rob them, and it ended up where

1669
01:41:09,800 --> 01:41:14,240
Speaker 6: they bravely fought back. This officer defended himself and his friend,

1670
01:41:14,600 --> 01:41:17,000
Speaker 6: but not before being shot in the face and in

1671
01:41:17,080 --> 01:41:20,720
Speaker 6: the arm by one of these criminals. Immediately after, the

1672
01:41:20,800 --> 01:41:25,120
Speaker 6: men and women of the Homeland Security Investigations worked with NYPD,

1673
01:41:25,439 --> 01:41:28,519
Speaker 6: leading to the arrest of that gunman in just two hours.

1674
01:41:29,040 --> 01:41:33,320
Speaker 6: Within twenty eight hours, the second assailant was arrested as well,

1675
01:41:33,439 --> 01:41:36,280
Speaker 6: and those individuals have been brought to justice. But those

1676
01:41:36,320 --> 01:41:38,840
Speaker 6: individuals would have never been in this country if they

1677
01:41:38,880 --> 01:41:42,000
Speaker 6: hadn't been allowed in by the Biden administration when they

1678
01:41:42,000 --> 01:41:45,800
Speaker 6: ignored our federal laws and allowed them to come in illegally. Now,

1679
01:41:45,840 --> 01:41:49,800
Speaker 6: the officer that was injured doesn't seek public attention. He

1680
01:41:49,880 --> 01:41:53,639
Speaker 6: wishes to remain anonymous, but he had a distinguished career

1681
01:41:53,800 --> 01:41:56,240
Speaker 6: in a legacy of service and continues to do so.

1682
01:41:56,680 --> 01:42:00,240
Speaker 6: But his life was forever altered by this heinous crime.

1683
01:42:00,640 --> 01:42:03,240
Speaker 6: His attackers never should have been in this country, and

1684
01:42:03,280 --> 01:42:06,120
Speaker 6: they've been protected and were protected up until that point

1685
01:42:06,200 --> 01:42:09,799
Speaker 6: by sanctuary city policies. In fact, they had long criminal

1686
01:42:09,880 --> 01:42:13,439
Speaker 6: raps sheets and were released by the Biden administration and

1687
01:42:13,560 --> 01:42:16,720
Speaker 6: continued to be released by leaders in this city to

1688
01:42:16,760 --> 01:42:21,280
Speaker 6: perpetuate crimes against the citizens that live here. During our investigation,

1689
01:42:21,600 --> 01:42:25,480
Speaker 6: we learned that these scumbags were affiliated with the transnational

1690
01:42:25,520 --> 01:42:31,080
Speaker 6: criminal organization, the notorious Triniturists gang in New York. We

1691
01:42:31,160 --> 01:42:34,640
Speaker 6: began to target every single last person that is affiliated

1692
01:42:34,680 --> 01:42:37,360
Speaker 6: with them and recognize that they needed to be brought

1693
01:42:37,400 --> 01:42:41,639
Speaker 6: to justice. The American people deserve dignity, they deserve justice,

1694
01:42:41,760 --> 01:42:45,599
Speaker 6: and we deliver both. So we launched Operation Salvo here

1695
01:42:45,640 --> 01:42:46,599
Speaker 6: in New York City.

1696
01:42:47,120 --> 01:42:48,760
Speaker 2: Now I didn't know she was going to get into

1697
01:42:48,800 --> 01:42:51,320
Speaker 2: some of these I didn't know she was going to

1698
01:42:51,320 --> 01:42:52,760
Speaker 2: start with some of these other things. I thought she

1699
01:42:52,840 --> 01:42:55,240
Speaker 2: was going to start with Minneapolis. But I'm going to

1700
01:42:55,240 --> 01:42:59,640
Speaker 2: stick with it because first, the language, the language is

1701
01:42:59,720 --> 01:43:03,800
Speaker 2: meant connect with everyday Americans and who cares about elitist

1702
01:43:03,800 --> 01:43:07,599
Speaker 2: progressives who think that criminal activity is okay and fine

1703
01:43:07,640 --> 01:43:10,240
Speaker 2: as long as those criminals vote for them.

1704
01:43:10,720 --> 01:43:14,719
Speaker 3: This is what people voted for. It can't be said enough.

1705
01:43:15,520 --> 01:43:18,000
Speaker 2: The more the left screams about it and mainstream media

1706
01:43:18,040 --> 01:43:20,680
Speaker 2: screams about it, really is what we're talking about, Cable news, etc.

1707
01:43:22,240 --> 01:43:24,160
Speaker 3: You must remind yourself.

1708
01:43:24,080 --> 01:43:27,439
Speaker 2: That this is what people voted for. Their screams, their howls,

1709
01:43:27,560 --> 01:43:32,400
Speaker 2: are not representative of where Americans are at. We want

1710
01:43:33,040 --> 01:43:36,720
Speaker 2: illegal aliens off out of the country because they broke

1711
01:43:36,760 --> 01:43:39,479
Speaker 2: the law, and we want criminals off the street because

1712
01:43:39,800 --> 01:43:44,720
Speaker 2: they do us harm. Two things. Well, they didn't break

1713
01:43:44,760 --> 01:43:47,519
Speaker 2: any laws. Why are you after illegal immigrants. Well, because

1714
01:43:47,560 --> 01:43:50,519
Speaker 2: they broke the law. They may not be involved in

1715
01:43:50,560 --> 01:43:55,000
Speaker 2: something violent against me at the moment, but we still can't.

1716
01:43:55,040 --> 01:43:57,920
Speaker 2: I'll just allow lawbreaking because if we can allow law breaking,

1717
01:43:58,560 --> 01:44:00,520
Speaker 2: how many of you are going to not pay your taxes?

1718
01:44:00,760 --> 01:44:02,320
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, that has a lot of hands.

1719
01:44:02,680 --> 01:44:06,080
Speaker 3: That's a tremendous number of hands right there. But back

1720
01:44:06,120 --> 01:44:07,000
Speaker 3: to the secretary.

1721
01:44:07,800 --> 01:44:11,760
Speaker 6: Operation Salvo was a cooperation of the resources of CBP,

1722
01:44:12,160 --> 01:44:17,120
Speaker 6: HSI RO and also the federal prosecutors from the Southern

1723
01:44:17,160 --> 01:44:18,240
Speaker 6: District of New York.

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Speaker 3: The New York.

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Speaker 6: County District Attorney's Office also participated in this operation. We've

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01:44:25,200 --> 01:44:28,960
Speaker 6: arrested fifty four individuals as a part of Operations Salvo

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01:44:29,320 --> 01:44:32,719
Speaker 6: since its exception just a few months ago. Those arrested

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01:44:32,800 --> 01:44:38,160
Speaker 6: are violent trans national gang members in affiliates associated with Trinitarios,

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01:44:38,439 --> 01:44:43,360
Speaker 6: who are responsible for weapons trafficking, for human smuggling, for

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01:44:43,840 --> 01:44:48,719
Speaker 6: narcotics distribution, and for armed robberies. They had perpetuated previous

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01:44:48,840 --> 01:44:51,400
Speaker 6: violent attacks across the city of New York City.

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Speaker 2: And these kinds of things are happening all across the country.

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01:44:59,200 --> 01:45:03,200
Speaker 2: And this is, as I said, what people voted to

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Speaker 2: do away with of the law.

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Speaker 6: In every single thing the Trump administration does, we put

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Speaker 6: the American people first. Operation Salvo has proven that by

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01:45:14,479 --> 01:45:18,000
Speaker 6: taking fifty four dangerous individuals off of our streets and

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01:45:18,080 --> 01:45:21,120
Speaker 6: protecting the people who live here in this city. Now,

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01:45:21,960 --> 01:45:24,920
Speaker 6: also thanks to President Trump, we have two point six

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Speaker 6: million people who have left our country who shouldn't have

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01:45:28,240 --> 01:45:30,800
Speaker 6: been here in the first place. They were here illegally,

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Speaker 6: and over six hundred and fifty thousand of them were arrested, detained,

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01:45:35,280 --> 01:45:38,320
Speaker 6: and deported back to their home countries. Two million of

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01:45:38,360 --> 01:45:39,080
Speaker 6: them left.

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Speaker 3: Volunteer voluntarily excellent, again what we voted for.

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Speaker 2: So I really thought she was going to get into,

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01:45:47,920 --> 01:45:52,880
Speaker 2: at least in that first part what happened in Minneapolis.

1748
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Speaker 2: I'm sure. I'm sure it's going to get talked about. Guaranteed,

1749
01:45:57,680 --> 01:45:59,719
Speaker 2: I'll bring it to you. Keep it here. I'm Tony Katz.

1750
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Speaker 2: This is Tony Cox today.

1751
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Speaker 3: I think some.

1752
01:46:04,640 --> 01:46:06,519
Speaker 2: Comics go the route of.

1753
01:46:07,960 --> 01:46:08,760
Speaker 3: I'm going to just.

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Speaker 13: Say F Trump every all the time, or that's their comedy.

1755
01:46:12,200 --> 01:46:14,240
Speaker 13: And I think, well, now a little bit, you're being

1756
01:46:14,280 --> 01:46:16,519
Speaker 13: co opted because you're so angry.

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Speaker 3: You've been lulled.

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Speaker 13: It's like a siren leading you into the rocks. You've

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01:46:20,320 --> 01:46:24,400
Speaker 13: been lulled into just saying Trump F Trump, F Trump.

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Speaker 13: Screw this guy, you know.

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Speaker 3: And I think you've now.

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Speaker 13: Put down your best weapon, which is being funny, and

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01:46:34,200 --> 01:46:37,679
Speaker 13: you've exchanged it for anger and.

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Speaker 2: That and Conan O'Brien is completely correct, Tony Kax, Tony

1765
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Speaker 2: Katz today, Good to be here, good to be with you,

1766
01:46:46,320 --> 01:46:51,680
Speaker 2: be cutting, be thinking, engage the policy, mock and do

1767
01:46:51,760 --> 01:46:55,479
Speaker 2: that with all the politicos. But no, they all need

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01:46:55,520 --> 01:46:59,160
Speaker 2: to be Jimmy Kimmel. We should be clear, Jimmy Kimmel

1769
01:46:59,680 --> 01:47:03,160
Speaker 2: is a is not a host. He's not doing late

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Speaker 2: night TV. It's ugly what ABC allows. It's ugly that

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01:47:07,320 --> 01:47:10,040
Speaker 2: there are still sponsors. Why would anybody want to be

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01:47:10,120 --> 01:47:14,720
Speaker 2: associated with it. It's just not valuable. But amongst his

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01:47:14,840 --> 01:47:18,000
Speaker 2: peer group that has millions of dollars in all this influence,

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Speaker 2: it's great and that's why he does it. I've often

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01:47:20,840 --> 01:47:24,000
Speaker 2: argued that the reason these shows are still allowed on

1776
01:47:24,040 --> 01:47:27,519
Speaker 2: television is that it's the way of the network giving

1777
01:47:27,520 --> 01:47:29,599
Speaker 2: a wink and a nod to their friends, saying, hey,

1778
01:47:29,960 --> 01:47:31,479
Speaker 2: we know what we have to cover in the news,

1779
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Speaker 2: but you know how we really feel. I don't know

1780
01:47:34,280 --> 01:47:36,160
Speaker 2: if that's the ego or the id it's one or

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01:47:36,160 --> 01:47:38,280
Speaker 2: the other, but that's what late night TV has become.

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Speaker 3: And two, Conan O'Brien's point right there.

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01:47:42,880 --> 01:47:47,599
Speaker 2: All the late night hosts, sans Gutfeld, laid down their

1784
01:47:47,640 --> 01:47:52,000
Speaker 2: best weapon, the ability to be funny and reach an audience.

1785
01:47:52,760 --> 01:47:55,160
Speaker 2: But the networks clearly don't care about reaching the audience.

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01:47:55,160 --> 01:47:57,759
Speaker 2: So what does it matter? Find everything at Tony Kats

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Speaker 2: dot com tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Everyone take care

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Speaker 2: In a