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Speaker 1: want to know was the Mike's still on of scene?

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Speaker 2: What up? Everybody?

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Speaker 3: Welcome to another episode of the France First Second Podcast.

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Speaker 3: My name is kennth be joining me on the show.

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Speaker 3: We be Spike, Mike and Rod.

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Speaker 2: What up?

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Speaker 3: Do we appreciate you guys joining us? If you want

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Speaker 2: At least uh.

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Speaker 3: Anywhere from twenty five to thirty minutes of just you know,

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Speaker 3: we said, now kind of warming up, be stretching our

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Speaker 2: Bit, and you know, before we start the show.

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Speaker 3: You know, so we were talking about kind of a

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Speaker 3: big conversation last week about this group on Twitter. So

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Speaker 3: we had a conversation about that, and.

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Speaker 2: You know, parents playing ratchet songs and uh, people smoking

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Speaker 2: cracking nash Stocks.

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Speaker 3: Interview with Bobby Brown, you know, and uh, you know,

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Speaker 3: Drake Fans going after our academics, going after Fantano.

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Speaker 2: So we love you Fantano. Yeah he had a white

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Speaker 2: man man. I'm just playing, but we do love Pantano. H.

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Speaker 3: So you want to hear all that man, Patreon man,

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Speaker 3: Patreon dot com Slesh is my salon as we always do.

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Speaker 2: Uh, we start to show out with fun facts.

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Speaker 4: Fun facts for the summertime. Mosquitos can smell which blood

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Speaker 4: type you are. There twice as likely to bite someone

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Speaker 4: who is Type O as opposed to Type A.

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Speaker 2: Really really yes, faction is a fun fact.

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Speaker 4: Love bros, like, because I do money type text my.

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Speaker 2: Wife right now, what's your blood type? I don't know

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Speaker 2: my blood type is not around? I bet I bet rods.

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Speaker 2: You know you be positive? You know your blood type? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's like it really is all. Yeah, it's in Apple Hill.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why it isn't let me check out. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I have no I have no fucking idea. I used

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Speaker 2: a card for because I used to give your organ.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it might be on your driver's license.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if that's on the driver's license. Then

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Speaker 4: it used to be no he was an organon or not? Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I don't think you.

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Speaker 2: Are an organ. Yes, but I don't feel like going

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Speaker 2: to get my license. Yeah. I took my mind off though.

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Speaker 2: Damn scared because they said they let you die.

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Speaker 4: It was a little rumor used to go, right, they'll

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Speaker 4: let you die, real harvest your organs. If they've seen it,

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Speaker 4: you're it's like the more likely. But but they.

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Speaker 2: Would do that to you because they know you're from Nashville.

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Speaker 2: So I'm not. I'm not doing it anyway, So you

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Speaker 4: Wait, I have been for a while. I've heard something

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Speaker 3: I'm not trying to live in somebody else unless I

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Speaker 2: You can't. How you try me?

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Speaker 4: I know my blood, Let me go get my license.

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Speaker 4: It's not on there. It's not the blood.

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Speaker 2: They took it off. Yeah, I know it used to

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Speaker 4: Another one, the air you breathe in train station subways,

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Speaker 4: fifteen percent of that is human skin. And if you

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Speaker 4: think the train station will save you from inhaling human skin,

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Speaker 4: just know when you see the little rays in the sun,

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Speaker 2: What's the other twenty? You know? Yez dust know so?

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Speaker 4: And last one, TV commercials admit a tone that's inaudible

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Speaker 4: and this is one way in which they work to

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Speaker 2: I did not yet what was the last one?

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Speaker 4: TV commercials admit an inaudible tone to the human ear

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Speaker 3: Oh no, I really didn't. I didn't, damn.

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Speaker 2: All right. Got a few fun facts today. Got a

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Speaker 2: his band's shirt. It's the singer slash guitar player from Metallica,

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Speaker 2: James Hetfield, the main guy with the with the mustache.

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Speaker 2: That happened to me again too, I had and she

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Speaker 4: You just got that shirt on. I said, you know

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Speaker 2: A weird thing. It was crazy, like you go that hair? No, right,

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Speaker 2: of deaths. Well, actually no, only one. Two thousand and six.

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Speaker 2: Arthur Lee. I don't know if y'all familiar with him,

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Speaker 2: but he was the singer and guitarist of the band Love.

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Speaker 2: Do y'all know the band Love? Yes? Yeah, yeah, anyway,

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Speaker 2: y'all should look them up. They have a great song

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Speaker 2: called Houses on a Motel, which is really, really, really

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Speaker 2: a fantastic song. But he was one of the first

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Speaker 2: and he would call himself the first black hippie, which

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Speaker 2: probably wasn't true, but he called himself that, so I

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Speaker 2: thought that was cool, and I always wondered if that's

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Speaker 2: where Kendrick and Crue got the name from. Probably not,

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Speaker 2: but either way, if you not know Love, do not

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Speaker 4: Is like a house Memphis. They're from Memphis, really, yeah,

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Speaker 4: from Memphis. House is not a hotel like houses not home.

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Speaker 2: Kind of, but yeah, yeah, I think it was kind

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Speaker 2: I did not know that. A couple more. In nineteen

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Speaker 2: shout out to Jesse Owens saying fuck these Nazis I'm

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Speaker 2: about to show y'all what we do saying, fuck you, Hitler.

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Speaker 2: We show you how fast we can run and perpetuate

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Speaker 4: No, I'm just playing a headline where Nazi was trying

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Speaker 4: to reclaim, like how we reclaimed nigga.

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Speaker 2: Y'all seen that, not to try to reclaim what the word?

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Speaker 2: The word, not the word. I saw the same clip.

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Speaker 2: It was a guy on the on the on the

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Speaker 2: news station like, oh, if you want to call us Nazi,

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Speaker 2: then we'll just it. What's up my Nazi?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 2: That's why I had I knew, Mike, probably because it

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Speaker 2: think I could do it? Though they can reclaim it,

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Speaker 2: there's no reclaim or unclaim. It's just like Nazi just

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Speaker 2: kind of is what it is. I don't think I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think so, because because the Nazis was

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Speaker 3: a thing, right that wasn't negative at the time.

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Speaker 2: Right, No, what do you mean I.

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Speaker 3: Thought, didn't they all call themselves Nazi?

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Speaker 2: Well in Germany, yeah, back in the day, But in

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Speaker 2: the United States, Nazi has never had a positive connotation.

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Speaker 3: But in Germany they were, yeah, publicly owning Nazis and

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Speaker 3: in America was always perceived negative. But as the war

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Speaker 2: Right in Germany. Yeah, I mean like in Germany now,

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Speaker 3: saying is it was an acceptable term, yes, in Germany

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Speaker 2: Got you? Yes, Yes, nigger was never a positive connotation.

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Speaker 2: We put a spin off because I don't like the

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Speaker 2: word you are saying it, But nigga, I know they're

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Speaker 2: So like there's no way for them to reclaim the

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Speaker 2: Do it? That makes it easier for me. I would

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Speaker 2: love for you to do it. The last thing I

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Speaker 2: have nineteen seventy three, what album was released on this day? No,

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Speaker 2: it would be Curtis Oh. I would say I'm out

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Speaker 3: It like Game sevent three.

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Speaker 2: That was eighties, wasn't it? Oh? No, it was late

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Speaker 2: late seventies, seventies, he said, seventy seventy three album. It

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Speaker 2: was just a hip hop album. It's not hip hop. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I'll give you, I'll give you. I can't give you

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Speaker 2: no hints. Fucking it was Stevie Wonders. What album did

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Speaker 2: he release today? It wasn't Talking Book. I think that

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Speaker 2: When I was popular album in seventy three albums when

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Speaker 2: he was like, yeah, that was his sixteenth album. Geez,

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Speaker 2: he's been hugging.

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Speaker 3: He was record of music since he was a child. Basically,

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Speaker 3: here's a whole live album. But I did a whole

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Speaker 2: The child he was in the sixties, in the sixties,

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Speaker 2: mid sixties. So sixteen is still crazy. That's like, that's like,

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Speaker 3: Year they used to put out albums like that, used.

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Speaker 4: To put out what I'm just saying that I didn't

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Speaker 2: Like he's putting them out like boom. And this was

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Speaker 2: Better Butter. Stupid asses. They were Dune. Oh they was

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Speaker 3: They don't you throw that prog bag away.

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Speaker 2: In the paper plates? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, I'm set with paper plates, bro. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to get us away from all this plastic ship.

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Speaker 2: Whatever we have in the house. Why is black different though?

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Speaker 3: Like the big place, like like the black spatchelors.

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Speaker 4: It is these two dudes they brought they ring home

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Speaker 2: It's like I let that. Neither one of them didn't

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Speaker 4: Because versus admitting plastic into your body microplastic?

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Speaker 3: Because she gets she buy all the expensive like pants names.

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Speaker 4: Like man, you know, all right, man, best thing sing

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Speaker 4: He's you know, if he dies, he dies, but he

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Speaker 4: Sure gas and oil companies don't like what he's doing,

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Speaker 2: Would you take it? I'll take the money that I

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Speaker 4: about the science and the groundbreaking.

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00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 2: Know, that's how scientists be. Man passion. Yeah, it's more

436
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:45,040
Speaker 2: about that than anything. Yeah, because about it. Yeah, yeah,

437
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:46,000
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, I.

438
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,240
Speaker 4: Was, Yeah, he definitely could to do more stuff, right,

439
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:50,920
Speaker 4: he probably, I'm sure he has so many other ideas

440
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,320
Speaker 4: and things he probably wants. He probably wants to do,

441
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,960
Speaker 4: and he probably should try to get funding or whatever.

442
00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,160
Speaker 2: But nah, he's he's just looking at it from the oh.

443
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,760
Speaker 4: Man, I just created this thing that can start engines

444
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:03,960
Speaker 4: and so yeah.

445
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,479
Speaker 2: He literally started up that. It was like a weed whacker.

446
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,119
Speaker 2: He poured it in there. Yeah, he started that. He

447
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 2: did that.

448
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, I don't know if you were

449
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 4: here when I brought him up the first time. I

450
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 4: brought him here on good news, and but he started

451
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 4: up a diesel truck. That was the first thing he did.

452
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,640
Speaker 4: He did a diesel truck, and night's been doing other stuff.

453
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:25,440
Speaker 4: He just did as really Yeah, he put the ship

454
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,640
Speaker 4: in the ship cranked up, so it's real like it

455
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,200
Speaker 4: really making like.

456
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:31,399
Speaker 2: Breaking ship bro.

457
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 4: It is it is so yeah, I just want to

458
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 4: do a follow up on him. He is alive and

459
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,840
Speaker 4: well as of right now today. But yeah, everybody keeps

460
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:41,360
Speaker 4: you keep guy man.

461
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 3: You see it they came out and droves bro. Yeah,

462
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 3: to put that message out that it was ever they

463
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:48,720
Speaker 3: got him off.

464
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 4: Yeah right, because everybody was saying it. We said it here,

465
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:54,399
Speaker 4: you tect that man at all.

466
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,440
Speaker 2: Costs oil comes gonna be like take him out.

467
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 4: The other good news I saw this week. When I

468
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 4: first saw it, I didn't know. It was just like, oh,

469
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 4: that's great news or whatever. I don't know if if

470
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:06,640
Speaker 4: I say it right now, I don't know if y'all

471
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:10,159
Speaker 4: would think it is either. But Sierra Scepts offered for

472
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 4: Beneen citizenship.

473
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 2: For whose citizenship is what it's called? Right that Africa

474
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 2: culture in Africa, country in Africa heard of it. It's

475
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:20,640
Speaker 2: right next to uh.

476
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 4: Like Togo and Nigeria, Ghana, It's like right there, it's

477
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 4: like West Africa, Gosha or whatever. She found her own

478
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 4: spot where they're trying to get her for cultural appropriation.

479
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,679
Speaker 4: They said she Yeah, they were criticizing her taking the citizenship.

480
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,479
Speaker 2: Okay, does any does that spark anything for y'alls? I mean,

481
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 2: I just want to hear this story. Yeah, I don't.

482
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 4: You don't understand how it's good news? Okay, does anybody

483
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 4: understand how that could be good?

484
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 5: I just want to I just want to know.

485
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:54,920
Speaker 4: We don't know, because I never thought about it.

486
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 2: I don't know if she's leaving.

487
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,639
Speaker 3: She just has citizenship there because Rosie o'donald has she

488
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 3: went to old Ronald yeahs comedian.

489
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, she loves she got citizenships. Yeah she did wow

490
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:13,679
Speaker 2: somewhere else. Yeah, all these rich white people believe they

491
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:14,439
Speaker 2: don't want to help us.

492
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 3: Right, we got a rich black person leaving.

493
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 4: So she's been a water citizenship in Africa. The country

494
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,159
Speaker 4: and Benen, as part of a new law that aims

495
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 4: to attract African diaspora, like several similar initiatives, is like

496
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,959
Speaker 4: the neighboring like Ghana. I didn't realize Ghana was doing

497
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 4: this either.

498
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 3: Oh, Manana the one that people like to go.

499
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,120
Speaker 4: The law is scene as a way of bringing tourism

500
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 4: and investment, but unlike its neighbors, Beneen believes is reckon

501
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 4: in and atoning for its own role in the trans

502
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 4: Atlantic slave trade, a step to a foremost other Western

503
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 4: African nations. So it's like they're trying to right they're wrong.

504
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,159
Speaker 4: So it's just like because of the slave trade that

505
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:54,639
Speaker 4: they're now offering you know people, if they can they

506
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,400
Speaker 4: can prove you know what I'm saying that their bloodline

507
00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,919
Speaker 4: that they'll they'll they'll look grant citizenship.

508
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:00,879
Speaker 3: So she's Benig.

509
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 4: No, if you a descendant of slaves, they offer you

510
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,640
Speaker 4: citizenship to that country. Yeah, but I thought I think

511
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:07,399
Speaker 4: she's not.

512
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 3: She's not Benig.

513
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 2: But because she's they're doing it to bring awareness to

514
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,119
Speaker 2: what they're doing. I never thought about it because we

515
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:17,719
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, we from Africa.

516
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 3: Also, were you saying we were automatically qualifi So.

517
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 2: Basically that you can so let me, let me get

518
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 2: through it.

519
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 4: So whatever the case may be, Benean Well, grant citizenship

520
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 4: to anyone over the age of eighteen who can use

521
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 4: DNA evidence, family records, or sworn testimony to prove the

522
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 4: ancestors came from the Sub Saharan Africa.

523
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 2: Uh so yeah, I thought that was cool.

524
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 4: Like and then let's see, by legally recognizing these children

525
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 4: in Africa, Benin is healing the historical wound. Is his

526
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:52,160
Speaker 4: act of justice, but also one belonging in hope. Let's see,

527
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 4: it's another part I wanted to read.

528
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,200
Speaker 2: Spike Lee got it last week too. He won to

529
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 2: well one. He missed the part right they said ally

530
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 2: gave it to him and his wife, Yes, descendent of slaves.

531
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:08,159
Speaker 2: Why you're looking at everybody?

532
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 4: It says between fifteen eighty and seventeen twenty seven, the

533
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 4: Kingdom of Wahada, a major slave trading center located on

534
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 4: what is now Benin's Coast, is estimated to have exported

535
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 4: more than a million Africans to the US, Caribbean and Brazil.

536
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 3: So they want to get back to Africans, they shipped off.

537
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 2: Yes, No, God, damn, that isn't form the way he said,

538
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 2: the way your goofy ass coast. True, that's not true. Yeah,

539
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 2: tell me how that's the way y'all said it. The

540
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 2: way y'all saying is it may not be.

541
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:46,400
Speaker 5: Sound kind of found.

542
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 2: I need I need somebody through it, right, I got you.

543
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 2: But no, it's it's good news because I've never thought

544
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 2: about it.

545
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 4: It's like, damn, they're actually, you know, honoring the fact

546
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,439
Speaker 4: that you know what I'm saying, that we brought over

547
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 4: here slaves, and like y'all y'all.

548
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 2: Because you know, we joke. I don't know if it's joking,

549
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 2: but a lot of us talk about leaving this motherfucker

550
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 2: right now. That's what I'm saying.

551
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:10,399
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying a lot of people and I

552
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 4: know several people that's trying to leave. But but but yeah,

553
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 4: but now this gives you a way to actually, you know,

554
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 4: be awarded citizenship somewhere else, just in case some ship

555
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 4: happened to go off here, like you're trying to go

556
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 4: to believe I mean, I don't know what I mean,

557
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 4: let me expe might be collecting.

558
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 2: They're trying to get some leverage that we have y'all here.

559
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 2: What's happening, I'll tell you.

560
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 5: Let the I thought it was.

561
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 2: I know they're joking, but I believe they're joking. But

562
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 2: it is a very honey all right, try to blow

563
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 2: this motherfuck up, y'all. They votiform. Oh man, but no, man,

564
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 2: it's seriously something that you might want to consider. You

565
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, it's too hard. I'm going to

566
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 2: the UK. Guess what their top X words? What people cotton?

567
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 2: I mean, it makes sense, it makes sense, it makes

568
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:28,479
Speaker 2: sense where it's where most of this Like, you got

569
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 2: a lot of jobs over here too, y'all. Y'all crazy

570
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 2: bro y'all, y'all are fucker. I don't even know.

571
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 4: If I believe that I'll be anymore I'm looking at.

572
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 4: I just looked up facts about They speak French. Uh,

573
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 4: their currency is west cfa French. They got a population

574
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 4: of about thirteen million, The climate is tropical, and then

575
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 4: economy says it's agricate agricultural base with palm oil and

576
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 4: cotton as its top X words.

577
00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 2: See, but they only said cotton. That's what I say. Point,

578
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 2: that was the point. Palm oil is very palms and

579
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 2: everything spike. Okay, So they need niggas for that too,

580
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 2: to get that. They need niggas to come and get

581
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:13,479
Speaker 2: that greuey smaller palm oil. They're too ignorant for this one.

582
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 2: And like they're doing a good things. They're doing a

583
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 2: good thing, right, they're wrong reparations.

584
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 4: Banina is considered the birthplace of voodoo religion, which is

585
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 4: still practiced today.

586
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 2: All scared of voodoo, but Christianity does ten times worse things.

587
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 2: Christianity we got or we got they do the way

588
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 2: the second they read voodoo. Oh no, christian have been

589
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 2: even more scared.

590
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, we know what they did, but they did the

591
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:47,479
Speaker 3: black folks in the Christianity too.

592
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 4: Benina's doing some beautiful things. I think it's dope, so

593
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 4: like I said, it's not just Benina. Apparently, like I said,

594
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 4: Ghana has been doing I wasn't aware of that. I

595
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 4: know people and Ghana, but yeah, they're actually they're doing

596
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 4: it too. But you know, I mean, I think that's dope, bro, Like,

597
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 4: I think that's really dope. Like when I first saw it,

598
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 4: I was like, Okay, this is the big deal. But

599
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 4: then then I read into it, I was like, oh, snap,

600
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 4: Like so yeah, we can actually have centizens ship there.

601
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 4: I mean, you have your options, that's know what I'm saying,

602
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 4: You know what I mean like that and the way

603
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 4: ship is going here, options is pretty good, you know

604
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. The application they got, the website on them.

605
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 4: Yeah it's a website. Okay, I can't even get a passports.

606
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 4: I don't know if they let me back. You can't

607
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 4: get a pass with That's a whole other thing.

608
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 2: I know you said that. Another. Look, he's still a

609
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 2: slave technically, right.

610
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 3: Really if you look at Mississippi, we didn't get free

611
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 3: until it was two thousan two thousand something and can

612
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 3: never signed the paper Spike, it's as ness.

613
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 2: Ye damn broly, let me fact.

614
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 5: Check that after the real want to cy crazy about to.

615
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 2: Make sure that's interesting. Who even says that exactly? Certificate

616
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 2: missip male Negro.

617
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 3: I'm checking cause my wife said, my brain, I've been

618
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,959
Speaker 3: skipping c he been skipping a little bit. But anyway,

619
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 3: but yeah, so and just kinda close the loop on

620
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 3: the other stuff about the p F o A yeah,

621
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 3: so yeah she said the hets clad caraway and always.

622
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 2: Pants that we have r p F. There you go.

623
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 2: So yeah, so we all right, people should always look

624
00:32:55,840 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 2: for that and don't ever use metal uh utensils with

625
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 2: with your nonstick. I learned that the hard way because

626
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 2: it is scratched and it ruins the non stick. Like

627
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 2: why is this ship still sticking? No advertising?

628
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 3: But the funny thing I think with these pants, and

629
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 3: it made sense to what you were saying. They came

630
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 3: with wooden spoon exactly. Yep, wooden plastics all introduced and

631
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 3: one of these mother fuckers because it has a little

632
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 3: a hole in it or you can put the spoon

633
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 3: and a little not It's really.

634
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 2: I didn't know. I didn't know either. I know, so

635
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 2: either I was like, God, thank god you're here. It's

636
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 2: a bullet ship. It was like no, I'm like okay,

637
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 2: thank you.

638
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 4: Mm hmmm.

639
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 3: We're gonna take a little bit of a break this

640
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 3: week from politics, but you know, but we do need

641
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 3: to talk about the Sydney Squeeny thing because it was

642
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 3: kind of crazy.

643
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 2: Last week.

644
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:17,760
Speaker 3: So apparently people were up in arms about this American

645
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 3: Eagle campaign that says Sidney Sweeney has great gens and

646
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 3: it's plays on the jeans and jeans, the homophones jeans

647
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 3: and jeans, a E A n s and g E

648
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 3: n e s And it was on giant billboards, Times Square,

649
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 3: ass all over the place.

650
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:38,959
Speaker 2: It fits.

651
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 3: Features Sidney Swingey refersenting inherited traits. My gens are blue,

652
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 3: with the camera angles linger on her blonde hair and

653
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 3: blue eyes. And the critics claim the campaign echoes eugenic,

654
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 3: eugenic and white supremacists rhetoric, and it was a big

655
00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 3: controversy around it, with some called the tone deaf or

656
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:05,439
Speaker 3: regressive and uh, others are helding it as anti woke

657
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 3: and American Eagle stop rose eighteen percent, of which I

658
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:12,919
Speaker 3: would have spike.

659
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 4: I would I would have tried. I know bunch it costs,

660
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,399
Speaker 4: but I would it would have. It's like twenty three dollars.

661
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, got a couple of chairs, bro.

662
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,839
Speaker 3: And uh yeah, but they came out and they stand

663
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 3: by that of course, and uh and that was it.

664
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 2: So what do you guys think? Was this a good campaign?

665
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 2: Was it tone deaf? Uh? At this overreaction?

666
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 3: Like what is really going on with this campaign? What

667
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:40,399
Speaker 3: do you what do you what do you guys think?

668
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 2: Mm hmm? Did you look at it? Did you see that?

669
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 2: Did you follow that?

670
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 1: I didn't watch the whole thing. I just saw like

671
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 1: clips and screenshots of it, But I didn't watch the

672
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 1: whole thing.

673
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, okay, because I was one to Watchpike.

674
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 2: I was like, why the fuck you put this ad? Would?

675
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 2: I didn't get it at first? I didn't either.

676
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:00,839
Speaker 3: I was you know what I did?

677
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 2: I see? I saw?

678
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 3: Why?

679
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 2: Am I trying to make a rapper that said she

680
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 2: was mimicking it? What was her name?

681
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 5: Yeah?

682
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all that what she doing, of course, just

683
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 2: this morning making fun of it. But it's like, yeah,

684
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 2: I don't think we need you adversary we need I

685
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 2: was confused by that, Mike, and I'm like, wait a minute,

686
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 2: remember we talked about change and all that, when we're

687
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 2: talking about the homie. Yeah, I don't know that I'm

688
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 2: seeing enough change from her to really be like, yeah,

689
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,359
Speaker 2: we don't need you advocating for ship. So that's my fault.

690
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 4: I should have watched it once I saw her video,

691
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 4: but I didn't, so I heard I watched it, and

692
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 4: I didn't think anything of it. And then I heard

693
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 4: more Mark lam Hill talking about it, and he gave

694
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,240
Speaker 4: it a lot more context as far as the German

695
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 4: blue eyed, blond hair jean type thing, and how she

696
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 4: was speaking in the video saying that her genes were

697
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 4: better and that was reminiscent of the Germans trying to

698
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 4: do what they were doing with their jeans with the

699
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 4: blind here, blue eyed thing.

700
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 2: But before he said that, I didn't even a thank

701
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 2: God for the Joe Budden podcast.

702
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 4: Well this was actually this is actually on Piers Morgan

703
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 4: with a panelful of white people, and.

704
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 2: That's worse right, It's just what I'm saying.

705
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,359
Speaker 4: They would like him and Pierce Morgan were going at

706
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 4: it like they were, They would make it it sound

707
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 4: like he was completely ridiculous. He was being too woke,

708
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 4: you you foolish, like Piers Morgan was trying to sun

709
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 4: him essentially for even acting or approaching this as if

710
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 4: it was racist.

711
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 3: Interesting, Yeah, Marla Mana actually does a live show, I

712
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:41,760
Speaker 3: think every every night night school. I think yeah, Twitter,

713
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 3: twitter to Yeah, well he doesn't on YouTube. I think

714
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 3: it just.

715
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,720
Speaker 2: So is the official member of the Joe Yeah contract.

716
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 2: He had his own show and yeah show him and

717
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 2: it's like current your enthusiasm? Mm hmmm. So how do

718
00:37:56,360 --> 00:38:00,359
Speaker 2: you keep up all this stuff? Spike? He's a Joe

719
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 2: Budden podcast where they say, what do you say again, Glazier,

720
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,800
Speaker 2: I'm a podcast in general, Like I listened, Okay, I

721
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,879
Speaker 2: got you, I got you, damn. So how do you Yeah,

722
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 2: I don't know, if you how do you feel about it?

723
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 2: Then the ad Yeah not that Mark? You said Mark

724
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 2: kind of once he.

725
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 4: Explained that I understood more was like, Okay, I feel

726
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 4: like the American Eagle wasn't oblivious in doing it, but

727
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 4: in the age of rage marketing, they knew that. Just

728
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 4: like when we had the H and M and they

729
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 4: had the black dude in the gorilla shirt all monkeys

730
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 4: from the jungle Yard. We talked about that up here.

731
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,240
Speaker 4: I don't think that was I think this is similar.

732
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,280
Speaker 4: I think it was a raise more what you think.

733
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 2: You did it? They did a mask. Yeah, they had

734
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:54,320
Speaker 2: the gorilla masks. H and them had H and M

735
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,240
Speaker 2: had the black kid in the shirt said the coolest

736
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 2: monkey in the jungle. I remember that. Okay, Remember I

737
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 2: thought I thought it was it was a different time.

738
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 4: Did the gorilla mask with something like I thought it

739
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 4: was Gucci it was the I don't eve think it

740
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 4: was a gorilla mask.

741
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 2: I think it was just yeah, it was just no,

742
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 2: it was like a black mask lips. So it's like

743
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 2: kind of worse. It's like, what are you doing? It

744
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,720
Speaker 2: was like with minstrel show type, that's what it was getting.

745
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 2: It was wild. It was that was wild, And then

746
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 2: people are still shopping at Gucci, like oh yeah, I

747
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 2: mean I don't think any of us were going to

748
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 2: American Eagle anyway. Right now? That was it any on

749
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 2: this right? That ship went totally over my head, Like

750
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 2: I saw it. I'm like, what I saw that.

751
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 4: I can't remember where I saw the commercial. I don't

752
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:46,760
Speaker 4: know if somebody put it in the but with no content,

753
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 4: no context, there was plenty of context. It all just

754
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 4: started clowning and down playing and no context.

755
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 2: When it was a link was clicking. You can't blame

756
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:57,399
Speaker 2: Spike for this. One.

757
00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 3: No.

758
00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 2: All I saw was the tweet and it just said

759
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 2: Sydney swingy something.

760
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 3: And that was it.

761
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 4: And I was like, Okay, I want y'all had the

762
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 4: same experience I did. I went into it with no context.

763
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 4: I want to see that. Y'all think it was racist

764
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 4: without the context? Yeah, yeah, y'all can't blame Spike for

765
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 4: that one. I didn't think it was racist when I

766
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 4: saw it. I just thought it was an American ego

767
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 4: commercial with a white girl.

768
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 2: So, Mike, you knew off what they was doing. Yes,

769
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 2: that's why didn't say that in y'alls text. Really, I

770
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 2: was like, I'm not finna argue with y'all in a text,

771
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,879
Speaker 2: y'all being I'm sorry, Yeah, up to so you saw

772
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 2: the tweet?

773
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:32,399
Speaker 3: Did say Sidney Sweeney is reviving the Third Rich never mind?

774
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I apologies. And then y'all started clowning and I

775
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 2: was like, I'm not getting in this. I think I did.

776
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 2: I laugh at it. You said they really mad at

777
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 2: her for doing an ad. In my brain, I'm like, yes,

778
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 2: that wasn't Spike's fault.

779
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, I apologize, I said, so off the whim, you

780
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 4: got it mine? Yes, one hundred percent. What would you

781
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 4: credit that to just knowing history? You just think they're racist.

782
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 4: You said all will I don't think.

783
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 2: I don't even think. I didn't say all white. See

784
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:09,359
Speaker 2: I said when a white person automatically to get me back.

785
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:19,800
Speaker 2: I like that. That was good. That was good. No,

786
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 2: it's just when if no one said a word about it,

787
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 2: I would have in my brain been like that fucked up.

788
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 2: But I'm not gonna say nothing until somebody else does.

789
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,879
Speaker 2: They're gonna they're gonna act like I'm crazy. But when

790
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 2: I saw people complaining about it, I was like, Okay,

791
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 2: I'm not nuts. Like the whole thing gave me fucking

792
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 2: Nazi vibes. It's just it's so And the thing about

793
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 2: it is people acting like everybody's crazy for taking that,

794
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 2: taking this from that ad, you're gaslighting the fuck out

795
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 2: of us because they did this on purpose. They the

796
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:59,959
Speaker 2: the whole thing is her being a pretty white, blue eye,

797
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 2: blonde haired, big breasted woman and she says jeans are

798
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 2: past us and pat kids, and the kids get the personality.

799
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 2: I couln't. Sydney Sweeney has great genes. It's clear that

800
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 2: they're making a double entendre. They're talking about Jay jeans

801
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 2: and g jeans. What the fuck are they talking about

802
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 2: with the Sydney Sweeney has good jeans. Saying someone has

803
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 2: good jeans would kind of imply that someone else has

804
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:47,879
Speaker 2: bad jeans. Typically, yes, yes, this was different dogs Like, yeah,

805
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,839
Speaker 2: I thought it was a character. That is that really

806
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:54,359
Speaker 2: just her? And then it's just her Jesus Jesus, Okay,

807
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 2: I guess I'm wrong. Then I was. I thought she

808
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 2: was doing a character. No, no, that's how she normally said.

809
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 2: That's a shame, that's not good jeens. Then sound like

810
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 2: you got some fucked up genes somewhere in there, at

811
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 2: least three spike shit, what the fuck? But nah, Like

812
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 2: I yes, I was like, this is this is fucked up.

813
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 2: This is absolutely rage marketing. Like you said, because you

814
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 2: you're playing with some ship you really should not be

815
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 2: playing with. They are clearly making eugenics references. Now, do

816
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 2: I think there are a bunch of Nazis? No, not

817
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 2: at all. I don't know anything about them. I mean,

818
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,359
Speaker 2: they are called American Eagle, but I don't know anything

819
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 2: about American Eagle. I mean, but I do know that

820
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 2: even if they're not Nazis, they're absolutely fucking capitalists, so

821
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 2: they know that we can run this real quick. And

822
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 2: if anybody gets mad, guess who will save us. All

823
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 2: of the fucking white foxs, Fox News, the right wingers,

824
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 2: they will save us. And look what happened, Look what happened.

825
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 2: Who the fuck was talking about American Eagle prior to now? Yes,

826
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 2: and they're in the mall and all that short. I'm

827
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 2: sure they're a popular store. Who was having a conversation about, Yo,

828
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 2: you got to do American Eagle shirt? That's just bomb.

829
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 2: Nobody how she signed to get my.

830
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 3: Was I lying?

831
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 2: She sounds like she just hit some real good week

832
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 2: crack like that, like you know, you sounds just like

833
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 2: your So I had to listen for myself. I had

834
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 2: had I don't know what Mark Lamont Hill said, but

835
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 2: I typically I typically he said similar.

836
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:48,359
Speaker 4: He said something similar, very similar to what you said

837
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 4: about the eugenics thing. And if you know the history

838
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 4: of what they they were essentially word for what you

839
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 4: said in the sense of why even play with this like.

840
00:44:56,840 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 3: They were intentionally doing this or do you think they

841
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 3: were just like, man, this should be dope, we just

842
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 3: write it this way.

843
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 2: Think about it. They were just trying to be clever.

844
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 3: I thought they would just think they thought they was

845
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 3: just that's what I thought.

846
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:09,760
Speaker 2: That's what I was like, trying to be rappers.

847
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 5: Yeah bro.

848
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 2: Clever. Yeah, I didn't even think it would be just well, yeah,

849
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 2: the double time. But I didn't. You gotta think about

850
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 2: these kind of things. Who would that be a signal to?

851
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 5: Not to us?

852
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 2: Oh?

853
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 3: I know who it's a sign too, But I didn't

854
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 3: take it as far as That's why I laughed at

855
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 3: I'm like, bro, are y'all really about to do this

856
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 3: about a fucking as?

857
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 4: I think it's that deep though. You say sing the signal?

858
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:38,439
Speaker 4: When you say sing the singal? Who is it sending

859
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 4: the signal too? And when they even catch you.

860
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 2: You're asking me or ken you because you don't want

861
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 2: to say that. I wouldn't say that. Before I listen

862
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 2: to I was like, else would I be talking talking about?

863
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 2: Was downplaying it?

864
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 5: Being serious?

865
00:45:58,239 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 3: Anyway?

866
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 2: I ain't listening. He didn't see him looking at you though.

867
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 2: He was just right. He said, don't that's what That's

868
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 2: what his face said. The word says something different, but

869
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 2: his places like talking to you. But Kim was the

870
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 2: last one talking. He was downplayings. I thought he was

871
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 2: talking to him. What did you ask me? Again? I

872
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:41,399
Speaker 2: think it's that deep.

873
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 4: No, So you're saying that it's it's clearly a signal,

874
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 4: and I'm saying that, do you think the people that

875
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 4: is signaling to would.

876
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 2: Even catch it? Yes? Yeah, that's why I'm asking, like,

877
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 2: why do you think they would? Because that seems pretty

878
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 2: I missed it. I know it's not signal to me,

879
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:57,800
Speaker 2: but I thought it was just them being trying to

880
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 2: be clever with jeans and jeans. You know, yeah, they are.

881
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 2: They are trying to be clevered with jeans and jeans.

882
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 2: But the whole thing is again, and before I even

883
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:06,879
Speaker 2: get deep into this, I don't think it's that big

884
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 2: of a deal because this is what I expect out

885
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 2: of these motherfuckers, don't I don't care if people run

886
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 2: out there and do protests in front of American Eagle.

887
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 2: I don't care, mainly because I think that that is

888
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 2: what they were hoping for. They put out this ad

889
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,439
Speaker 2: with this pretty blonde, blue eyed white girl and she's

890
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 2: talking about my genes are blue geans. Hey, I said,

891
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 2: he it's I know what you're doing. Like, do I

892
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 2: think it's that deep for them? I think that they

893
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 2: are hoping that the public would take it that deep.

894
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:48,399
Speaker 2: And that's exactly what happened, because again, nobody really gave

895
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,879
Speaker 2: a fuck about American Egle like that. Not saying people

896
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 2: didn't shop there, not saying they don't make a lot

897
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 2: of money, not saying that they're not just about every

898
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 2: mall in the world. I don't know. I don't know,

899
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 2: but all I'm saying is I don't think people were

900
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 2: going online and discussing American Eagles New Egg right, they

901
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 2: don't care, but they were hoping, let's play this game.

902
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 2: Let's put this girl on the ad. Because one of

903
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 2: the guys there was like a leaked conversation or whatever

904
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 2: where they were asking her Sidney Sweeney, if like she

905
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 2: was cool with them pushing the pushing the line, and

906
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 2: she was like, oh yeah, let's push it. So it's

907
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 2: like they planned for this, and now you're getting what

908
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 2: you plan for. You're getting a bunch of people upset. Also,

909
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 2: you have to consider the people that are upset were

910
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 2: not going there, you know what I'm saying. The motherfuckers

911
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:36,879
Speaker 2: that are like what the fuck American fuck American Ego.

912
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 2: They weren't shopping there anyway. So all they're trying to

913
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:44,240
Speaker 2: do is bring more of that crowd, the ault rights

914
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,800
Speaker 2: whatever over there. Because this is my last point, I

915
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 2: promise now shut the fuck up for at least five minutes.

916
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 2: They know that the easiest people to market to are

917
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 2: right wingers. Maga, maga, because all you have to do

918
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 2: is just slightly pretend that you care about their cause.

919
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 2: That's all you gotta do. Hook one sinker with with

920
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 2: with people that are further on the left. It's like,

921
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 2: maybe like me, but even more left. They question everything.

922
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 2: If somebody's marketing to me, my first thought is, why

923
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 2: the fuck are you marketing to me?

924
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 5: Why are you?

925
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 2: Why are you trying to get me to buy this product?

926
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 2: Why specifically need? This is weird? But when maga, they're

927
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 2: just like, I ain't man, there's a big pitted blonde bitch.

928
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 2: She's fucking awesome. I ain't never seen no movie. You

929
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 2: don't know what you Farika is, man, I don't know

930
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 2: none of that. All I know is that woman is blonde,

931
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 2: blue eyed, and got some big ass titties. Man. So

932
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 2: I'm on board, American Eagle. Let's go sign sign me

933
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 2: the fuck up?

934
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 3: Do you do you think I got a question, get

935
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:55,879
Speaker 3: them ken, get you. No, I'm not because I think

936
00:49:55,960 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 3: this whole thing is stupid, But I do you think that.

937
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,800
Speaker 2: They fail for it? Then if this they've been the

938
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:09,720
Speaker 2: left wing or whatever.

939
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,320
Speaker 3: But do you think that they fail for if this

940
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 3: was intentional and they put this out or like you

941
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 3: guys are kind of talking about rage marketing, we're gonna

942
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:20,800
Speaker 3: intentionally put this out because we want a reaction. Do

943
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 3: you think that they fail for and gave them the

944
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 3: amplification they were looking for? The one pushed their stock

945
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 3: up and two push their sales up.

946
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 2: You have to So that's like saying, well, never mind,

947
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 2: I won't even make an analogy. Yes, I do think

948
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 2: they fail for it, But I don't think there was

949
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 2: an option because it's like, if you don't say anything,

950
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 2: then you're just letting companies play around with fucking white

951
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:46,279
Speaker 2: supremacy and they're doing it unchecked. So I don't think

952
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:48,840
Speaker 2: you had an option but to say something, you know,

953
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:53,320
Speaker 2: like like y'all might think it's stupid, but at the

954
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 2: end of the day, this is a popular brand, at

955
00:50:58,080 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 2: least in the ball I don't know how popular, but

956
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,319
Speaker 2: I'm again that they're a popular brand in the mall

957
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 2: that is playing around with some really heinous shit. If

958
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 2: you look up the history of eugenics and you look

959
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 2: up how I mean, even America was doing eugenics. It

960
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,800
Speaker 2: wasn't just Germany. That's what makes this even more fucked

961
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 2: up for sterilization. And then look who do you think

962
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:22,400
Speaker 2: was getting for sterilized? Sure as fuck wasn't white people.

963
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:27,399
Speaker 2: It was us. It was Mexicans. It was like, you know, so, yeah,

964
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 2: I again, y'all might think it's stupid, but at the

965
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 2: same time you should look at American eagle and be like,

966
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:35,879
Speaker 2: why did y'all even think that this was a cool

967
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 2: thing for y'all to play with, versus looking at us

968
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 2: that are saying, well, this is fucking stupid and foul.

969
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Put the blame where it belongs.

970
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:47,360
Speaker 2: It belongs with them, because you can't deny even if

971
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 2: y'all think it's just a simple, friendly, clever double entendre marketing.

972
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 2: People are not stupid. There's no way I believe that

973
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 2: nobody in that room was like, wait, why are we

974
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 2: doing this? Why are we talking about her having good jeans?

975
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 2: That's kind of weird. No, there's no way I believe

976
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 2: that they knew what they were doing. I do.

977
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 3: I thought Don draper a Spike was just in as

978
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 3: bad bro.

979
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:16,840
Speaker 2: That makes sense.

980
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:18,799
Speaker 4: But that makes me one to two to the point

981
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 4: that we always ask, because I'm sure Mike is right

982
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 4: in the sense of somebody was like why, but I

983
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 4: don't think it was a black person, because I think

984
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:26,840
Speaker 4: there's a very simple solution to this.

985
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I don't think it would't have black people.

986
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:33,399
Speaker 2: I believe there's probably one two three that because I'm

987
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 2: past the point of thinking that every black person is

988
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 2: gonna speak up about this kind of shit.

989
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 4: But it's a better idea there if you don't want

990
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 4: people to be enraged, which maybe have been their point,

991
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 4: but you can they could have launched a multi face

992
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 4: campaign where she wasn't the only one saying that. It

993
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:49,400
Speaker 4: could have been a black, curly haired girl too. It

994
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 4: could have been an Asian lady like. It could have

995
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 4: been a lot of different faces of people saying, oh,

996
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 4: I have good jeans, and this would have been nothing.

997
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:58,760
Speaker 2: That's the point though, Spike. It would have been nothing,

998
00:52:58,920 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 2: got it.

999
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 4: Someone would have talked about and I feel like that's

1000
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 4: a better idea most people would It would have resignated

1001
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 4: with people more.

1002
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 2: I think you don't think so. But what I was

1003
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 2: going to say is because.

1004
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 4: I went and looked at the American Eagles page and

1005
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 4: they hadn't been getting much traction at all. I mean,

1006
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:15,760
Speaker 4: this ship has four point three million views, and everything

1007
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 4: else they have is like one thousand and five thousand views.

1008
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 2: Trade.

1009
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, But the thing I was going to say is

1010
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:27,319
Speaker 4: they had just did a campaign with Coco, the tennis player.

1011
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 2: She's black or whatever, so I was trying to see

1012
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 2: what she got, right, So I was just trying to

1013
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 2: see like.

1014
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:42,879
Speaker 4: Like like because they're they're working with black influencers as well, influencers.

1015
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 2: Or names Coco, who else? What they did like little

1016
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 2: Wayne and stuff? How long that that was exactly? They

1017
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 2: became unpopular? They whatever. I trusted that they did something

1018
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 2: with this Coco person. It probably didn't. She didn't work.

1019
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 4: It got it got more of was in most stuff

1020
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 4: did got it got up to eighteen thousand eight.

1021
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 2: So it didn't work. It works better than than what

1022
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 2: they were doing before. I could do with video and

1023
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 2: I'll get eighteen thousand no no, no, hold on, hold

1024
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 2: on how much of Sidney Swingy's hold on stop.

1025
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 3: Wait, hold on, okay, if I want to just add

1026
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:18,760
Speaker 3: it just a little bit, like the eighteen thousand compared

1027
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 3: to everything before that, how did that perform before the

1028
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 3: Sydney Sweny thing, Right, that's what It wasn't as great,

1029
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.

1030
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 1: So the.

1031
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 3: Sydney the Sydney Sweeney ad was amplified by the discussion

1032
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 3: that reached fucking JD Van So I think that's an

1033
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 3: anomaly that we have to extract before we we have

1034
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 3: to look at the performance. What I want to know

1035
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 3: is how did Coco Golf's ad compared to all of

1036
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:47,399
Speaker 3: the other videos from other people.

1037
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 2: That's what I was trying to tell you. Okay, so

1038
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 2: so so I'm not even counting he got you too, No, no.

1039
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 3: No, no no.

1040
00:54:53,320 --> 00:55:02,839
Speaker 2: His eyes were a little big on that interestingly enough, right, man,

1041
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 2: I don't see that ship. I don't go fuck what

1042
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:07,840
Speaker 2: Ron talking about it?

1043
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 4: It was add to his point though, it was adding,

1044
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 4: but go ahead, Yes, it's probably the same thing you're

1045
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 4: gonna say. Go ahead, So on the page, by the way,

1046
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 4: go ahead, you probably see your ahead idea just said

1047
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 4: you probably won't that page a week ago, there's a

1048
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 4: black girl with curly hair and the caption is dnim

1049
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 4: On denim On denim Ae has great jeans with the

1050
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:37,839
Speaker 4: black girl with ten thousand likes. The Sydney Sweeney one has,

1051
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 4: like you said, one point whatever million.

1052
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1053
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 3: So my question would be, if there was never this

1054
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 3: big outrage over this, I know it would have probably

1055
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 3: done more than I would imagine that it would do

1056
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 3: more than Coco because Sydney Swingey is popular. I just

1057
00:55:57,719 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 3: don't think it would have done four mil.

1058
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:02,839
Speaker 2: It wouldn't have. Nobody's here is disagreeing with that. Only

1059
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 2: thing I think the only my only disagreement with y'all

1060
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 2: is I feel like y'all are just trying to act

1061
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:11,800
Speaker 2: like this is just some made up outrage that a

1062
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 2: bunch of weirdo, terminally online leftists are just creating. That's

1063
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:19,720
Speaker 2: where I disagree with y'all. I don't think that. Again,

1064
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 2: I I don't think it's big enough a deal for

1065
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 2: people to go down in protest. I don't. I just

1066
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 2: think it's it's whatever. But I don't blame people for

1067
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:31,359
Speaker 2: being bothered by this. I don't blame people for calling

1068
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 2: it out because it's fucked up. It is fucked up,

1069
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 2: even if there is some other ad that they ran

1070
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 2: with a black girl with curly hair. There's no fucking

1071
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 2: way I believe that nobody thought that this was going

1072
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 2: to rile people up. They did it on purpose. Let's see,

1073
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:54,279
Speaker 2: I don't, I don't, I don't know. But Nazis call

1074
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:57,840
Speaker 2: you nigger on purpose, ken, right, Nazis call you nigger

1075
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:02,320
Speaker 2: on purpose. This line of thinking is like, well, you

1076
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 2: fell for it because he called you a nigger to

1077
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:08,959
Speaker 2: make you mad, and you got mad, so you fell

1078
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 2: for it. It's like, well, yeah, but they shouldn't have

1079
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 2: called me a dinner. That's where we should start. Don't

1080
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 2: call me a dinner.

1081
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 3: Like or I mean, but yes, they true, they could

1082
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 3: be doing that to get a reaction, and the reaction

1083
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 3: is criticized more than the the thing that triggered the reaction. So,

1084
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 3: you know, I get it, and then I'm looked at

1085
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 3: as violence exactly know what I'm so I understand that

1086
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:39,919
Speaker 3: I think when when I when I saw, I guess

1087
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 3: my thing is the unfortunate thing for me sometimes that

1088
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 3: I can see the logic and the reasoning that people

1089
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 3: that are upset got to end this app you know

1090
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 3: where they saw that when I listened to it that

1091
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 3: this was an ad for Eugenius all those stuff. But

1092
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 3: when I was like, man, really, like, y'all really gonna

1093
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 3: be upset about this out of all like there are

1094
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 3: other things, not saying that you can't do both, but

1095
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 3: why amplify that crowd and bring attention to something that

1096
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 3: I don't even know if they were intentionally doing this?

1097
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:18,920
Speaker 2: But I think that's what we different. But why are

1098
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 2: you putting more of the blame on the people that

1099
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 2: are upset than you are the company for doing it?

1100
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 3: Because I think what we differ is I think that

1101
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 3: you think they intentionally did it, and I don't think

1102
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 3: they intentionally did it. I think they were just thought

1103
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 3: they were writing a real the marketing company was writing

1104
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 3: a real clever ad, and it just I think the

1105
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 3: WoT crowd And I hate saying it.

1106
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 2: Just why you keep saying it? Because I don't know

1107
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 2: what else to use. Can somebody give.

1108
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 3: An empathetic the intelligent progressive or whatever? Progressive crowd just

1109
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 3: was like, oh my god, what are they doing? So

1110
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 3: like when Martin Mohell explains it, it makes a lot

1111
00:58:57,320 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 3: of sense because I understand the connection, but I'm like.

1112
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 2: It would have went over most people's head, you think

1113
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 2: if I do, I do. I honestly think that you

1114
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 2: think it went over when you say most people's heads,

1115
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 2: who are the most people? I think that, but they're

1116
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:12,960
Speaker 2: not marketing to you?

1117
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:17,919
Speaker 3: You mean most people like that's I think that every Yeah,

1118
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 3: So what Mike is saying that there there are marketing

1119
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 3: to a specific person the white Maga crowd is what

1120
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 3: this is targeted, and I think that the no. I

1121
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 3: think that what Mike is saying that they would have

1122
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 3: latched onto it and went about the products, which they did.

1123
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 3: But I also wondered if that was in response to

1124
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 3: the backlass. It was, But what I'm what I'm thinking

1125
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 3: is that most people heads is that people would just

1126
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 3: saw to add the.

1127
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:46,919
Speaker 2: Ad and just saw just the ad. No one would

1128
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 2: have kid so so.

1129
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 3: On one, if the marketing campaign was hyper targeting, targeting

1130
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 3: specifically a subset group of people, they would have called it,

1131
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 3: heard it, responded. Everybody else would have just saw added,

1132
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 3: just moved on. But once the backlash started and all

1133
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 3: the controversy started, now everybody is aware of what may

1134
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 3: have been specifically a targeting mission for a specific roup.

1135
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:22,200
Speaker 2: I guess I'm not really understanding your point. So you're

1136
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 2: you're saying, because a bunch of laymen would not have

1137
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 2: caught the dog whistle, then it's not that big of

1138
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 2: a deal.

1139
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 3: No, I'm saying that I don't think it was a

1140
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 3: dog whistle. That's where I think you and I disagree.

1141
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 3: I don't think it was a dog with So you think.

1142
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 2: They specifically had her talk about her hair color, her

1143
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 2: eye color, and her personality. They take that. No, it's

1144
01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 2: still there. The ones I saw don't have it.

1145
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 4: I'm telling actually, because it's a pretty it's a loan,

1146
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 4: it's a lone commercial.

1147
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 2: Okay.

1148
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 4: The one I saw, I didn't see a big deal

1149
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:57,880
Speaker 4: with it, Like that's the one that's actually on the

1150
01:00:57,880 --> 01:00:59,040
Speaker 4: American Eagle page.

1151
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 2: The one I saw, she was like laying and she

1152
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 2: said she was talking. She was saying like blue eyes,

1153
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 2: passed down butt or something like that. I don't remember that.

1154
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 2: The one. The one I went back and saw was

1155
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 2: thirty seconds long. Now this was like minute and thirty seconds.

1156
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 2: That's somebody. Because I've been looking at the other one

1157
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:23,800
Speaker 2: like what's the big dude, Because the other one, when

1158
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 2: she's showing her tail, he says, eyes up here. No,

1159
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:29,800
Speaker 2: there's there's like three or four different versions, but I

1160
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:33,920
Speaker 2: think the one that people are exceptionally bothered by is

1161
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:37,360
Speaker 2: the one where she specifically says jeans are passed down

1162
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:41,600
Speaker 2: from parent to child and it determines your hair color,

1163
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 2: your eye color, and your personality. Then the commercial ends

1164
01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 2: with Sydney has great gene id. So the fact that

1165
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 2: people will sit there and pretend that American eagle just

1166
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:56,640
Speaker 2: did this innocently is crazy because that was the main

1167
01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 2: thing that was involved in what Hitler was looking at

1168
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:02,080
Speaker 2: as far as eugenics. Now, if you look deeper in

1169
01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 2: the eugenics, he got a lot of that from the

1170
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:07,439
Speaker 2: United States. But when they taught Hitler, right, they didn't

1171
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 2: teach Hitler but was it Jim America? Regardless, there were

1172
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 2: there were eugenics happening in the United States prior to this,

1173
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 2: and it wasn't Jim Crow. This was this was in

1174
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:24,600
Speaker 2: relation to weeding out things like uh uh, like mental defects,

1175
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:28,919
Speaker 2: physical defects, and then it started to become other things.

1176
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 2: Later you're thinking, you're thinking about the big meeting that

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01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 2: that they talk about, the round tape of meeting that

1178
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 2: Hitler was fascinated by. I think that was a little

1179
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 2: bit different than the eugenics conversation. The eugenics conversations were

1180
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:43,280
Speaker 2: actually scientists, they were just shitty ones. But regardless of

1181
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:47,200
Speaker 2: all of that, the way Hitler viewed eugenics and wanted

1182
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:51,200
Speaker 2: it to be implemented was according to eye color and

1183
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:53,919
Speaker 2: hair color and of course skin color. But of course

1184
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaker 2: they're not going to go far enough American Eagle and

1185
01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:58,560
Speaker 2: say skin color. They're not going to say she has

1186
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 2: you know, I have blonde hair and blue eyes and

1187
01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:06,920
Speaker 2: great skin. That would be too far. But this is

1188
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 2: it's not a coincidence. I just I'm just not at

1189
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:13,040
Speaker 2: the point of being up in arms about it. I'm

1190
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 2: just trying to explain it to y'all to where I

1191
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:18,600
Speaker 2: don't think it's just a bunch of weirdos online just

1192
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:19,720
Speaker 2: made up some outrage.

1193
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 4: They did it on purpose, if they had all that

1194
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:24,360
Speaker 4: shit in it, I get it. Like this is interesting

1195
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:26,520
Speaker 4: because the one I saw is thirty seconds long. I

1196
01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 4: don't know if I ever clicked on the one that

1197
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:30,680
Speaker 4: you sent. I clicked on the one on the page

1198
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 4: that's thirty minutes long. This is the one that they're promoting.

1199
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Speaker 4: It has four point three million views, and.

1200
01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:37,640
Speaker 2: It doesn't have any of that shit y'all talking about it?

1201
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:40,479
Speaker 2: That's why I was confused. I'm like, are we watching

1202
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 2: the same video? Because the one I saw I can

1203
01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:46,960
Speaker 2: show y'all right now, I've seen that one, don't I know?

1204
01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:48,960
Speaker 2: I know, I know this is the one I saw.

1205
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 2: So I'm like, what are everybody talking about there? And

1206
01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:55,240
Speaker 2: I'm wondering if that's what other people saw. I'm like, this'

1207
01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:57,560
Speaker 2: because if this is what y'all talking about, what the

1208
01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:00,320
Speaker 2: fuck are y'all? Like? Y'all serious? Because that's what I

1209
01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 2: was like, But where are they promoting this other one?

1210
01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:05,840
Speaker 2: Was it leaked or something? I wasn't leaked? It was everywhere.

1211
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:07,720
Speaker 2: It was on Twitter, like the whole ad was. Just

1212
01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:09,400
Speaker 2: because it was on Twitter doesn't mean it wasn't leaked.

1213
01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 2: What was it that the American American Eagle put it out?

1214
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 2: Nobody is still there? I don't know this is this

1215
01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:18,600
Speaker 2: is the only one that're promoted. They might have taken

1216
01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:20,560
Speaker 2: it down by now, but we're because they already got

1217
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:23,560
Speaker 2: what they needed. There's the people are rushing to defend them.

1218
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:26,480
Speaker 2: Not only are right wingers defending them, people that are

1219
01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 2: center left are defending them by acting like leftists are crazy,

1220
01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 2: They're stock went up, they're winning. So they're like, okay, well,

1221
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:34,680
Speaker 2: let's just take down the one that they have a

1222
01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:37,080
Speaker 2: problem with and we'll leave the other ones out then.

1223
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 3: And then and then the best, the best thing quote

1224
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:41,880
Speaker 3: unquote that could have did is what they're standing by that.

1225
01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:44,600
Speaker 3: They were like, you know that is fine, which you know,

1226
01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 3: the right are going to eat all that up because

1227
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 3: they love when they push back against the whole anti

1228
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:51,680
Speaker 3: wol crowd, you know, so.

1229
01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:53,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course they're going to leave it up because

1230
01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:57,240
Speaker 2: it did its purpose. It did its purpose. It got

1231
01:04:57,320 --> 01:05:01,960
Speaker 2: people upset, and it pulled people to their little raggedy

1232
01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:04,680
Speaker 2: store in the fucking mall. And this is even like

1233
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:07,360
Speaker 2: me just hating. I didn't even think the jeans had

1234
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:09,800
Speaker 2: a nice cut or nothing. The jeans look boxy as fuck.

1235
01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:15,480
Speaker 2: They look regula ass, boring ass jeans. But I guarantee

1236
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:19,360
Speaker 2: you a whole bunch of fucking Margarets are running up there,

1237
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:25,280
Speaker 2: Margaret to go buy those jeans. I guarantee Mark Margaret

1238
01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:27,919
Speaker 2: already got them jeans on a tombox. Look I'm Sandy Sway,

1239
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:30,160
Speaker 2: look at me. I got good jams.

1240
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:31,840
Speaker 4: It ain't even that when I just sent you either.

1241
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:34,120
Speaker 4: I don't know what the original was. I can't find it.

1242
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:35,920
Speaker 2: It's there. We did not make it up, and it

1243
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:37,760
Speaker 2: was not I heard it. It's there. I heard it.

1244
01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:43,880
Speaker 2: It's because when I was like, jeans they are they are?

1245
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:46,000
Speaker 2: I was like, all right, But again you have to

1246
01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:48,040
Speaker 2: ask questions when someone said, I mean, first of all,

1247
01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:50,680
Speaker 2: who the fuck do you know says I got good jeans?

1248
01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:53,760
Speaker 2: Like nobody says that. It's not a common thing for

1249
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:56,280
Speaker 2: people to say I got good unless they're like joking

1250
01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:59,680
Speaker 2: around or something. But I don't think anybody seriously is like,

1251
01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:03,680
Speaker 2: you know, I have good hair and I got great eyes,

1252
01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:07,320
Speaker 2: I got good. Nobody really didn't.

1253
01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:10,240
Speaker 4: Really, they really was trying to mimic what Beyonce did

1254
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:14,200
Speaker 4: with Levi's. No, they weren't what she did a Genia

1255
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:15,720
Speaker 4: ado with them, and the people were surprised that she

1256
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:18,160
Speaker 4: was such a major superstar doing a Geena ad with Levi,

1257
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:20,080
Speaker 4: and I feel like American Eagle was trying to metch

1258
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:22,040
Speaker 4: that with Sidney Swinge.

1259
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:26,000
Speaker 2: Oh. I thought the ad was no. No, they said

1260
01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:27,920
Speaker 2: they were trying. They said they were paying homage to

1261
01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:31,200
Speaker 2: an old ass Brooke brookshields ad. And then when you're

1262
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:34,400
Speaker 2: gonna look at that ad. She was fucking fifteen. So

1263
01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:37,040
Speaker 2: it's like, there's no winning this, even if even if

1264
01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:39,840
Speaker 2: everybody believe, which all believe that it was just an accident,

1265
01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:42,200
Speaker 2: and then they're like, oh, by the way, we're referencing

1266
01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:44,640
Speaker 2: this old ad that Brooke Shields did. Then you go

1267
01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:46,800
Speaker 2: look at and you're like, wait, but they were sexualizing

1268
01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:49,640
Speaker 2: a fifteen year old, so are you Are you pandering

1269
01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:53,120
Speaker 2: the white supremacists or are you pandering the PDFs or both?

1270
01:06:56,760 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 2: It probably was because nobody nobody minded it. Nobody minded

1271
01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:03,360
Speaker 2: it when they did it. That's what That's what she says.

1272
01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 2: But she's not wrong. But I say, people, yeah, times

1273
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:09,840
Speaker 2: were different back then, and nobody really cared that she

1274
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:12,760
Speaker 2: was fifteen trying to be sexy, pulling her jeans up

1275
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:15,080
Speaker 2: over her underwear. Nobody really thought that way. But you

1276
01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:16,680
Speaker 2: look back at it now and you're like, that's kind

1277
01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:20,640
Speaker 2: of yes, yes, this is a lot deeper than I

1278
01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:23,960
Speaker 2: feel like, you know, y'all are giving credit. I don't

1279
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:27,080
Speaker 2: think that this was just a minor accident that poor

1280
01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:28,480
Speaker 2: little American eagle just made.

1281
01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:30,480
Speaker 4: Yeah no, no, not based on that. On that when

1282
01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:33,760
Speaker 4: I just heard about the genes are passed down and stuff.

1283
01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:34,960
Speaker 2: So you thought, no.

1284
01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:36,640
Speaker 3: I heard the ad and I was like, yeah, they

1285
01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:37,360
Speaker 3: are passed down.

1286
01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:39,400
Speaker 2: I heard the one before that one, and I was like,

1287
01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:41,040
Speaker 2: that's fucked up. And then I heard that one. I

1288
01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:43,120
Speaker 2: was like, Oh, I'm not nuts, this is definitely fucked up.

1289
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:45,320
Speaker 2: Which one you heard before? This is the one that

1290
01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:47,640
Speaker 2: y'all talking about before that didn't have the genes are

1291
01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:49,920
Speaker 2: passed down blah blah blah, but it still said that

1292
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:52,240
Speaker 2: she has good genes at the end of the commercial,

1293
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:55,680
Speaker 2: and I was like, that's a weird statement. I wouldn't

1294
01:07:55,720 --> 01:07:57,760
Speaker 2: do that, but what do I know? And I just

1295
01:07:57,840 --> 01:07:58,560
Speaker 2: moved off my day.

1296
01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:01,200
Speaker 4: So if you had a conversation and would the advertised

1297
01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:04,400
Speaker 4: team and they the Don Draper type, like Ken said,

1298
01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:07,080
Speaker 4: and this guy was, well, he's an ad exect from

1299
01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 4: Mad mad Man TV show. Yeah, okay, that's what he did.

1300
01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:13,080
Speaker 4: So if he told you, I just really thought that

1301
01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:17,840
Speaker 4: it was I. I wasn't intentionally doing the eugenic stuff,

1302
01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:20,000
Speaker 4: but I did think it was a good double entendre

1303
01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:23,559
Speaker 4: because jeans are passed down in the sense of old

1304
01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:27,120
Speaker 4: jeans being given to like your brother or whatever it

1305
01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:29,800
Speaker 4: may be. And he said, he genuinely just thought that

1306
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:32,120
Speaker 4: that was clever. You wouldn't believe him? Why would I

1307
01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:32,680
Speaker 4: believe him?

1308
01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:36,559
Speaker 2: I'm just wondering, okay, because people lie regularly, so I mean,

1309
01:08:37,160 --> 01:08:39,639
Speaker 2: why would he tell me the truth? There's no reason

1310
01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:41,360
Speaker 2: that he would be Like, Yes, I was trying to

1311
01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:44,840
Speaker 2: I was trying to send out a faux dog base

1312
01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:48,680
Speaker 2: public platform, like let's say you knew him, even if

1313
01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:54,200
Speaker 2: I wouldn't know him, because I have heard him. You know,

1314
01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:57,880
Speaker 2: I was playing. You can't just say that if you're

1315
01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:00,920
Speaker 2: if you're giving me a hypothetical on I'm hypothetical game.

1316
01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:02,720
Speaker 2: If I'm let's say I'm at a group with a

1317
01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:05,360
Speaker 2: bunch of friends and one of their friends is introducing

1318
01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:06,960
Speaker 2: him and he says, oh, yeah, this is the guy

1319
01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:09,880
Speaker 2: from American American Eagle. I would immediately look at him

1320
01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:12,040
Speaker 2: and be like, oh, fuck this guy. I'm cool on

1321
01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:14,479
Speaker 2: this dude. I'm not gonna start a fight, but I'm

1322
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:16,439
Speaker 2: just not fucking with him. But if it got around it,

1323
01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:17,880
Speaker 2: like if Rod was there, because you know he would

1324
01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:20,680
Speaker 2: do this, well, I mean, my mean to do this

1325
01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:25,280
Speaker 2: stat that you did this ad because of this Let's

1326
01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:26,640
Speaker 2: talk about it, man, what did you do it for

1327
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:28,360
Speaker 2: and if the dude was like, oh no, it was

1328
01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:32,200
Speaker 2: just a I was just making a clever pun about

1329
01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:35,400
Speaker 2: good gens. I wasn't thinking about eugenics, and I wasn't

1330
01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:38,720
Speaker 2: trying to do outrage marketing. I'd be like, do you

1331
01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:41,120
Speaker 2: really want my response, because my response is you're a

1332
01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:45,400
Speaker 2: fucking liar. But my response is, also I understand why

1333
01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:47,519
Speaker 2: you did it. You need money, you want money, You're

1334
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:51,639
Speaker 2: a capitalist. I get it, I get it, but come on, man,

1335
01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:56,080
Speaker 2: like's there's just no place on this earth that you

1336
01:09:56,120 --> 01:09:57,800
Speaker 2: could put me rum and be like, oh, yeah, that

1337
01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:02,120
Speaker 2: was just a mistake. Why would I do that? That's

1338
01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:05,400
Speaker 2: what you do. You always want to answers and and

1339
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:08,120
Speaker 2: and and you know you would do not put you

1340
01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:11,120
Speaker 2: on the spot like that. I would not do that.

1341
01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:14,200
Speaker 2: You might maybe not to be an asshole or anything.

1342
01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:16,200
Speaker 2: Of course that's not true finality, but you would be like,

1343
01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:18,560
Speaker 2: let's clear this up, because Mike thinks this way, and

1344
01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:20,120
Speaker 2: I want y'all to be friends. I know what you're

1345
01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:22,760
Speaker 2: talking about, But I wouldn't do that in that particular situation. Now,

1346
01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:26,160
Speaker 2: not not in that situation. Maybe I get you, maybe

1347
01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:32,680
Speaker 2: maybe adjacent, but not that particular situation. But again to

1348
01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:37,240
Speaker 2: wrap up by stance again, I don't think it's a

1349
01:10:37,439 --> 01:10:41,600
Speaker 2: humongous thing. I don't. I don't care if there's protests.

1350
01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:44,759
Speaker 2: I wasn't shopping an American Eagle anyway, so it doesn't

1351
01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:47,120
Speaker 2: make a difference to me. But if people are upset

1352
01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:49,320
Speaker 2: and they want to bug out, I think they should

1353
01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:51,040
Speaker 2: have the space to be upset and bug out. People.

1354
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:53,599
Speaker 2: The protesters, I don't know. I'm saying that they did

1355
01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:56,200
Speaker 2: if they did, because this is no different than any other.

1356
01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:58,639
Speaker 2: Like if bud Light did it, I feel like y'all

1357
01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:00,960
Speaker 2: would give way less grace to bud Light then you

1358
01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:02,920
Speaker 2: then you would American equal because you just don't know

1359
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:05,320
Speaker 2: ship about American eagle. But if bud Light did this

1360
01:11:05,479 --> 01:11:07,000
Speaker 2: and everyone was mad, you'd be like, oh yeah, bud

1361
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:09,040
Speaker 2: like did that's your purpose? I know about American ego.

1362
01:11:09,479 --> 01:11:11,840
Speaker 2: You can't help but see that mother store, And I'm

1363
01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:13,559
Speaker 2: saying you've seen the store. You ain't been in there

1364
01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:19,600
Speaker 2: the shop. I ain't seen you wear a thing that

1365
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:21,240
Speaker 2: looks like you got America?

1366
01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:23,360
Speaker 5: Why are you?

1367
01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:28,920
Speaker 2: Why are you? I got good? You ain't said that

1368
01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:35,160
Speaker 2: ship beIN me. It was clearly for me, exactly exactly,

1369
01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:45,720
Speaker 2: that's your man. What's the other story Abracambrie and that

1370
01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:50,720
Speaker 2: white people wouldn't do that. I bet they wouldn't cause

1371
01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:52,519
Speaker 2: they're already winning. I think they're already like a really

1372
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:54,840
Speaker 2: popular brand, right probably. I thought it was the same

1373
01:11:54,880 --> 01:12:01,040
Speaker 2: as I thought maybe American American Eagles, like.

1374
01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:07,040
Speaker 4: Just exactly the one I saw was no, I'm talking

1375
01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:09,920
Speaker 4: about well, yeah, the other one is kind of sketchy.

1376
01:12:10,680 --> 01:12:12,880
Speaker 2: Stock price is ten dollars, not twenty three. It's just

1377
01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:13,920
Speaker 2: down to ten dollars.

1378
01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:16,880
Speaker 3: So they sold it off. Motherfucker about that up.

1379
01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:19,840
Speaker 2: It's like I have to look at the chard stand

1380
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:21,040
Speaker 2: for nothing, fall for Everything.

1381
01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:23,519
Speaker 4: I thought that I thought the first one, the one

1382
01:12:23,560 --> 01:12:26,160
Speaker 4: I saw that's on that page, I was like, oh, yeah,

1383
01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:28,519
Speaker 4: that's just a clever I didn't see the uproar. But like,

1384
01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:30,960
Speaker 4: but when Mark Lamar Hills did say the stuff that

1385
01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:32,400
Speaker 4: he said, I was like, Okay, yeah, I can see

1386
01:12:32,439 --> 01:12:36,320
Speaker 4: that that's a progressive approach or whatever. But like that

1387
01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:39,680
Speaker 4: other one though, when they talking about ancestry and all

1388
01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:42,240
Speaker 4: that ship and I'm like, weird, that's a little weird.

1389
01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:43,519
Speaker 4: Why did you Why are you putting all that in

1390
01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:45,640
Speaker 4: the fucking that's unnecessary.

1391
01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:46,479
Speaker 2: It's funny.

1392
01:12:46,479 --> 01:12:49,360
Speaker 4: Everybody laughed Mark lam Hill off when he because even

1393
01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:51,560
Speaker 4: like you said, you mentioned Jbpach Oakley, but all of

1394
01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:52,559
Speaker 4: them like shrugged him off.

1395
01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:53,200
Speaker 2: I didn't like that.

1396
01:12:53,920 --> 01:12:56,960
Speaker 4: I was the white man and shruggedhim off too, so

1397
01:12:57,120 --> 01:12:59,560
Speaker 4: like everybody was thinking he was nikking too deep in it.

1398
01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:03,479
Speaker 2: Of course that that bothered me, the way they were

1399
01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:05,439
Speaker 2: just missing. Oh yeah, I hate it. To Piers Morgan,

1400
01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:08,920
Speaker 2: I don't like them off and all that ship like yeah,

1401
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:10,040
Speaker 2: that that that wasn't cool.

1402
01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:12,679
Speaker 4: He wouldn't go even if I didn't agree with Mark Lamont,

1403
01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:14,360
Speaker 4: like you're talking like you're talking to this man like this,

1404
01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:16,040
Speaker 4: They steady do that ship.

1405
01:13:16,439 --> 01:13:19,719
Speaker 2: I don't watch, but it'll pop up on Twitter sometimes

1406
01:13:19,720 --> 01:13:21,640
Speaker 2: and it makes me uncomfortable. As he was like, bro,

1407
01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:23,760
Speaker 2: why he asked him on the podcast, like why do

1408
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:25,120
Speaker 2: you do that? Why do you go up there? He

1409
01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:27,320
Speaker 2: was like, they don't treat you with the respect you should.

1410
01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:31,120
Speaker 2: He they don't. They he has to go up there

1411
01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:32,920
Speaker 2: because he has to give a voice for the people.

1412
01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:34,719
Speaker 2: That's exactly what he says. I mean, he's a smart

1413
01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:37,080
Speaker 2: fucking guy. Exactly what he said. I don't do it,

1414
01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:39,080
Speaker 2: no one else will that's a fact, because you gotta

1415
01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:41,600
Speaker 2: think about it, like even again, even if it is

1416
01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:46,320
Speaker 2: stupid and overthought, if you just let this ship go,

1417
01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:49,200
Speaker 2: then it gets fucking normalized. And then the next time

1418
01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:51,280
Speaker 2: they're gonna go even further, and then the next time

1419
01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:54,040
Speaker 2: they're gonna go even further, and then once again, I mean,

1420
01:13:54,479 --> 01:13:57,880
Speaker 2: you're gonna you're gonna have young black girls, whether you

1421
01:13:57,920 --> 01:14:00,240
Speaker 2: think these people exist or not, you're gonna go to

1422
01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:02,360
Speaker 2: have young black girls that are gonna see that commercial

1423
01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:05,920
Speaker 2: and think, well, wait a minute, she has good jeans,

1424
01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:09,160
Speaker 2: she's blonde hair, blue eyed, big tits. What does that

1425
01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:11,439
Speaker 2: mean for me? Do I have bad jeans? Kids aren't

1426
01:14:11,479 --> 01:14:15,160
Speaker 2: fucking stupid, and it's not again, it's not like motherfuckers

1427
01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:17,920
Speaker 2: are just weird. Eric is just making shut up like, no,

1428
01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:22,639
Speaker 2: this is they did it on purpose. I'm y'all. I'm

1429
01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:24,400
Speaker 2: glad Mark with my hill win his ass up there

1430
01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:26,320
Speaker 2: and argue with them. I didn't see it, but I'm

1431
01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:28,360
Speaker 2: glad he did. And I'm glad he wanted Joe Budden

1432
01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:30,200
Speaker 2: podcast and said that shit, because I'm sure most of

1433
01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:33,160
Speaker 2: those fools would just be like, what my whole thing

1434
01:14:33,240 --> 01:14:38,080
Speaker 2: is that I thought? I just think we're just so

1435
01:14:38,240 --> 01:14:39,240
Speaker 2: far removed from that.

1436
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:42,160
Speaker 4: Like I think back in the day when from like

1437
01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:45,880
Speaker 4: you know, propaganda, like certain propaganda like like marketing tours

1438
01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:49,240
Speaker 4: our youth and not generate like because we have so

1439
01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:52,439
Speaker 4: many it's because of the Internet, right, they can see

1440
01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:55,639
Speaker 4: themselves in so many different areas now, in so many

1441
01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:58,640
Speaker 4: different lights. So like, if this is like back in

1442
01:14:58,720 --> 01:15:01,800
Speaker 4: the day when all we had wasmmercial TV, this will

1443
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:04,280
Speaker 4: be a little different. But now it's like, you know,

1444
01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:07,080
Speaker 4: you could choose to watch something else and pay attention

1445
01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:07,760
Speaker 4: to something else.

1446
01:15:08,479 --> 01:15:09,960
Speaker 2: So that that was one of my one of my

1447
01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:14,080
Speaker 2: thoughts about it too. Yeah, I feel you. I'm just

1448
01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:17,479
Speaker 2: not a big fan of ignoring white supremacy in general.

1449
01:15:18,120 --> 01:15:19,840
Speaker 2: If it happens, I think you should call it out

1450
01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:26,320
Speaker 2: every single fucking time, even if it does make their

1451
01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:29,040
Speaker 2: fucking stock go up, because you know how Nazis are,

1452
01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:30,479
Speaker 2: you know how the alt right is, you know how

1453
01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:33,280
Speaker 2: maga is. But you have to still call it out.

1454
01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:37,679
Speaker 2: You're you're doing yourself and your your your your community

1455
01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:39,560
Speaker 2: a disservice when you just act like this ship is

1456
01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:40,320
Speaker 2: made up.

1457
01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:42,920
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, and at least you know the other thought

1458
01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:45,680
Speaker 3: and perspective is out there somebody can listen to it

1459
01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:48,680
Speaker 3: and say, oh, well I didn't look at it that way, but.

1460
01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:52,599
Speaker 2: Now I see it that way and agree and disagree.

1461
01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:54,280
Speaker 2: If they did make a mistake, maybe they want to

1462
01:15:54,280 --> 01:15:55,080
Speaker 2: make that mistake again.

1463
01:15:55,320 --> 01:15:57,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so they standing on they standing on business,

1464
01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:02,240
Speaker 4: I know, I'm yeah, if it was just a mistake,

1465
01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:05,120
Speaker 4: then maybe they just won't make that mistake again. I

1466
01:16:05,200 --> 01:16:06,599
Speaker 4: was just going to ask, would you think differently if

1467
01:16:06,600 --> 01:16:08,800
Speaker 4: she would the person was black, like they did this

1468
01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:09,760
Speaker 4: whole campaign.

1469
01:16:09,400 --> 01:16:11,280
Speaker 2: But it was a black girl. No, I would definitely

1470
01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:16,200
Speaker 2: think about it differently, absolutely, because we've never had eugenics

1471
01:16:17,160 --> 01:16:17,839
Speaker 2: was positive.

1472
01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:19,880
Speaker 4: That seemed like a correct answer to the question. Even

1473
01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:21,680
Speaker 4: if they were thinking about it the way that you were,

1474
01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:23,840
Speaker 4: somebody should have been like, well maybe she should be

1475
01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:27,280
Speaker 4: like multi racial, black, anything, and then it would have

1476
01:16:27,320 --> 01:16:30,800
Speaker 4: went over different. It wouldn't have been popular, had Mega

1477
01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:33,759
Speaker 4: would have been outraced, yeah.

1478
01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:37,240
Speaker 3: You know, yeah, because they you know, this whole anti

1479
01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:38,760
Speaker 3: Wolt thing, so could have if it.

1480
01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:43,240
Speaker 2: Was a girl with a butt. And yeah, but again,

1481
01:16:43,400 --> 01:16:45,599
Speaker 2: remember I mean this is just my opinion, of course,

1482
01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:47,559
Speaker 2: but I don't think I don't think people that are

1483
01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:50,960
Speaker 2: even center left are are as easy to market to

1484
01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:54,439
Speaker 2: as dumb ass right wingers. I don't know that a

1485
01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:57,280
Speaker 2: bunch of black women with big asses would have ran

1486
01:16:57,360 --> 01:17:00,400
Speaker 2: up to American Eagle to go buy these jeans, unless

1487
01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:05,240
Speaker 2: it was a Beyonce or somebody that's really popular, look good.

1488
01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:08,560
Speaker 2: They probably get it from somewhere else. I don't. I

1489
01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:10,800
Speaker 2: just don't. I don't see the numbers being anywhere near

1490
01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:14,800
Speaker 2: as high as if Maga does it. Maga is gonna

1491
01:17:14,840 --> 01:17:16,720
Speaker 2: run down there and spend that money, I think.

1492
01:17:18,280 --> 01:17:34,799
Speaker 3: But anyway, yeah, you know, I was I was wondering

1493
01:17:34,920 --> 01:17:37,719
Speaker 3: if like the girls, the black girls you were talking about,

1494
01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:41,040
Speaker 3: saw that ad and would you know, think about, like, well,

1495
01:17:41,080 --> 01:17:44,320
Speaker 3: what does that mean for me? You know, especially if

1496
01:17:44,320 --> 01:17:48,080
Speaker 3: there's one with Coco in it, and there's a lot

1497
01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:49,519
Speaker 3: of other representation out there.

1498
01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:50,080
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1499
01:17:50,120 --> 01:17:53,240
Speaker 3: I'm sure that there are a group that would see

1500
01:17:53,280 --> 01:17:56,479
Speaker 3: that and think that way, but something that something that

1501
01:17:56,560 --> 01:18:01,080
Speaker 3: speaks specifically to them, be as where are Lennix was

1502
01:18:01,160 --> 01:18:07,000
Speaker 3: saying about Pam Martin, so that is more directly related

1503
01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:11,920
Speaker 3: to them in this particular instance when she came out

1504
01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:14,439
Speaker 3: and UH didn't like the jokes.

1505
01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:16,800
Speaker 2: I couldn't even watch that ship In nineteen ninety.

1506
01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:20,519
Speaker 3: Sitcom Martin that was targeting Pam, which was played by

1507
01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:25,599
Speaker 3: China Arnold. She shout out Martin's character because he routinely

1508
01:18:25,720 --> 01:18:30,920
Speaker 3: mocked her hair features ted B b B, even though

1509
01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:35,200
Speaker 3: he praised the light skin Gina as ideal. Lennard said,

1510
01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:37,560
Speaker 3: Pam was so beautiful, and jokes like that made it

1511
01:18:37,640 --> 01:18:40,280
Speaker 3: hard as a dark skinned woman to fully appreciate it

1512
01:18:41,240 --> 01:18:41,759
Speaker 3: was beautiful.

1513
01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:46,400
Speaker 2: And I think I want to say it was she did.

1514
01:18:46,479 --> 01:18:48,280
Speaker 2: She did some years ago. She did.

1515
01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:52,800
Speaker 1: You saw about when she was talking about like like

1516
01:18:52,920 --> 01:18:55,479
Speaker 1: she was okay with the jokes, like she's okay with everything,

1517
01:18:55,560 --> 01:18:58,200
Speaker 1: and it was certain stuff that that they were censored.

1518
01:18:58,280 --> 01:18:59,120
Speaker 5: Martin be like, no, I'm not.

1519
01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:01,000
Speaker 2: I'm not about to say that too. I mean, I'm

1520
01:19:01,000 --> 01:19:02,479
Speaker 2: about you know, I'm not about to say this type

1521
01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:05,400
Speaker 2: of joke to or whatever to offend offend people.

1522
01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:08,840
Speaker 1: It's just but the thing is she would fire right

1523
01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:11,000
Speaker 1: back at them, like I think that's that's the thing

1524
01:19:11,080 --> 01:19:12,360
Speaker 1: too that I think we kind of forget into.

1525
01:19:12,400 --> 01:19:14,120
Speaker 2: It's not like she was just playing this victim on

1526
01:19:14,160 --> 01:19:17,920
Speaker 2: the show him right, like black don't like that ship.

1527
01:19:18,520 --> 01:19:21,120
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. She was. She was quick as

1528
01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:23,200
Speaker 2: she was quick and witty right back at it, just

1529
01:19:23,280 --> 01:19:24,920
Speaker 2: like if we was in school or something like that

1530
01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:26,400
Speaker 2: and you and you're trying to jone the girl and

1531
01:19:26,520 --> 01:19:29,639
Speaker 2: she come back at you like that's that was normal.

1532
01:19:30,320 --> 01:19:33,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's really interesting that out of that show,

1533
01:19:33,040 --> 01:19:34,880
Speaker 4: if she was an avid watcher of it, that that's

1534
01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:36,320
Speaker 4: what she got from younger.

1535
01:19:37,080 --> 01:19:42,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's young, Sophie's age like that age range. Don't

1536
01:19:42,479 --> 01:19:45,439
Speaker 1: really mess with Martin like that what you buy say,

1537
01:19:45,439 --> 01:19:46,800
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I.

1538
01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:47,240
Speaker 2: Was just saying.

1539
01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:49,920
Speaker 4: I just find it interesting that, like heard being asked

1540
01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:51,960
Speaker 4: about Martin, that's what she took from it. And I

1541
01:19:52,040 --> 01:19:55,880
Speaker 4: get it that the relatable experience because her complexion is

1542
01:19:55,960 --> 01:19:58,519
Speaker 4: similar to PAMs. But I think there was so much

1543
01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:01,680
Speaker 4: more depth and content to that show and things that

1544
01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:03,760
Speaker 4: you could take away from it looking back at it

1545
01:20:03,880 --> 01:20:07,640
Speaker 4: versus all he was demeaning to dark skinned women like that.

1546
01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:11,560
Speaker 2: That that's all. That's way down the list in my

1547
01:20:11,720 --> 01:20:13,599
Speaker 2: opinion of the experience of that show.

1548
01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:16,640
Speaker 3: I know that colorism is a very real thing, and

1549
01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:22,080
Speaker 3: especially Yeah, there was a shift especially that happened with

1550
01:20:22,200 --> 01:20:25,000
Speaker 3: men where dark skinned man became really popular, So that

1551
01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:28,600
Speaker 3: ship flipped and same thing that started to kind of

1552
01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:31,840
Speaker 3: also feel like a similar thing were happening with with

1553
01:20:32,160 --> 01:20:34,120
Speaker 3: dark skinned women too. And I was actually talking to

1554
01:20:34,240 --> 01:20:35,720
Speaker 3: with my wife and I'm like, you know, I think

1555
01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:38,320
Speaker 3: what's interesting is that this is the person that like,

1556
01:20:38,439 --> 01:20:40,800
Speaker 3: if you this is the way I put it to her,

1557
01:20:40,880 --> 01:20:44,680
Speaker 3: is this is online Twitter, social media ship, and you're

1558
01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:47,680
Speaker 3: not connected to the streets, right because when you go

1559
01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:49,439
Speaker 3: to when you go to the streets and you talk

1560
01:20:49,520 --> 01:20:52,240
Speaker 3: to people like and I will tell us that all

1561
01:20:52,320 --> 01:20:55,360
Speaker 3: of the men have always said that Pam was the

1562
01:20:55,439 --> 01:20:58,000
Speaker 3: one that's well, yeah, for the most part, the majority

1563
01:20:58,000 --> 01:20:59,160
Speaker 3: of the men said pan was the.

1564
01:20:59,200 --> 01:20:59,880
Speaker 2: One that was the bad.

1565
01:21:00,200 --> 01:21:02,880
Speaker 1: And of course women are age, you know, if you

1566
01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:05,439
Speaker 1: ask them that's brown skin of dark skin, they never

1567
01:21:06,720 --> 01:21:08,640
Speaker 1: at least they never said it to us or never

1568
01:21:08,760 --> 01:21:10,280
Speaker 1: talk when they talked about the show. We always talked

1569
01:21:10,280 --> 01:21:12,920
Speaker 1: about how funny the episodes were, you know what I'm saying, Like,

1570
01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:15,400
Speaker 1: my sister never got offended by.

1571
01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:18,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, like the conversations weren't happened. So I was like,

1572
01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:22,800
Speaker 3: so I don't want to I don't wanna, you know,

1573
01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:26,160
Speaker 3: discredit how she felt watching the show based on her

1574
01:21:26,280 --> 01:21:28,720
Speaker 3: color and what she pulled from it because she and

1575
01:21:28,800 --> 01:21:31,960
Speaker 3: maybe her experiences exactly, and that's what she's seeing and

1576
01:21:32,439 --> 01:21:34,120
Speaker 3: but and feeling, you.

1577
01:21:34,160 --> 01:21:35,400
Speaker 2: Know, maybe something triggered her.

1578
01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:39,600
Speaker 3: But I also think that it's it's you know, so

1579
01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:43,920
Speaker 3: it's important for the context. And I don't know if

1580
01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:46,960
Speaker 3: she's seen it or heard it or maybe to change

1581
01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:50,400
Speaker 3: to talk to her about what Pam has actually said.

1582
01:21:50,600 --> 01:21:53,200
Speaker 2: Something something triggered her, and that's what I'm saying.

1583
01:21:53,200 --> 01:21:55,160
Speaker 3: I want to undermand how she's feeling about it, but

1584
01:21:55,240 --> 01:22:01,320
Speaker 3: I think that it's also important to understan saying that Toino,

1585
01:22:01,520 --> 01:22:05,519
Speaker 3: Arnold said that, like you said, they were firing back

1586
01:22:05,560 --> 01:22:09,479
Speaker 3: and forth. This camaraderie, this chemistry they had was was

1587
01:22:09,640 --> 01:22:11,080
Speaker 3: off camera as well, which.

1588
01:22:10,920 --> 01:22:15,760
Speaker 2: Is how she got the role and that and that's

1589
01:22:15,880 --> 01:22:17,920
Speaker 2: the only show that has that dynamic either like it's

1590
01:22:17,960 --> 01:22:19,640
Speaker 2: a lot of other it was a lot of that.

1591
01:22:19,880 --> 01:22:21,880
Speaker 3: You know, and that they were really really good friends,

1592
01:22:21,960 --> 01:22:24,040
Speaker 3: so they just wanted to build that into the show.

1593
01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:28,320
Speaker 3: So this is how she and Martin basically said that

1594
01:22:28,400 --> 01:22:31,840
Speaker 3: that character came about. So not that this was intentional,

1595
01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:35,960
Speaker 3: I for one think that that makes a difference. But

1596
01:22:36,360 --> 01:22:39,080
Speaker 3: I'm not the dark skinned black woman, so I understand

1597
01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:42,800
Speaker 3: how she could aself, I mean, could interpret what she's

1598
01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:47,400
Speaker 3: saying based on her live experiences. But I don't know,

1599
01:22:47,680 --> 01:22:50,479
Speaker 3: it feels like we always having this conversation about, you know,

1600
01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:51,360
Speaker 3: this whole thing.

1601
01:22:51,560 --> 01:22:56,519
Speaker 2: It feels like to me, what Mike, he's switching around

1602
01:22:56,560 --> 01:23:06,760
Speaker 2: his y'all cook. I'm like, y'all cook it say over there.

1603
01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:09,120
Speaker 2: I don't have any anything itching to say. I mean,

1604
01:23:09,439 --> 01:23:12,599
Speaker 2: for the most part, I agree with the sentiments y'all

1605
01:23:12,640 --> 01:23:14,519
Speaker 2: are putting out there. I just think that y'all might

1606
01:23:14,560 --> 01:23:19,760
Speaker 2: be being a little bit unfair. Yes, our Lennox didn't

1607
01:23:19,800 --> 01:23:23,240
Speaker 2: say nothing about the rest of society. She said what

1608
01:23:23,560 --> 01:23:27,080
Speaker 2: she saw and how she felt, and y'all just spent

1609
01:23:27,160 --> 01:23:30,880
Speaker 2: about eight and a half minutes, you know, kind of

1610
01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:34,560
Speaker 2: ignoring what she said. And then you got around to

1611
01:23:34,720 --> 01:23:37,960
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to, you know, ignore what she's saying,

1612
01:23:38,479 --> 01:23:42,720
Speaker 2: but you're kind of ignoring what she's saying. Man, you're

1613
01:23:42,760 --> 01:23:44,639
Speaker 2: kind of ignoring what she's saying. If she if all

1614
01:23:44,760 --> 01:23:49,760
Speaker 2: she said was when I saw this, it made me

1615
01:23:49,920 --> 01:23:52,840
Speaker 2: feel a type of way as being a dark skinned woman,

1616
01:23:53,320 --> 01:23:56,720
Speaker 2: because Martin was throwing stereotypes about dark skinned women at

1617
01:23:56,800 --> 01:23:58,320
Speaker 2: PAM and it made me feel a type of way.

1618
01:23:59,640 --> 01:24:03,559
Speaker 2: I saw that and I was just like, all right,

1619
01:24:03,920 --> 01:24:06,840
Speaker 2: and I moved on the rest of my day, because

1620
01:24:06,840 --> 01:24:10,200
Speaker 2: she has a right to feel any way she feels.

1621
01:24:11,479 --> 01:24:15,040
Speaker 2: But but but y'all did just kind of be like, well,

1622
01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:18,640
Speaker 2: you know this, and what about this? And well this,

1623
01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:20,960
Speaker 2: and she should do this. Does she have to do

1624
01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:27,840
Speaker 2: anything except for be bothered? Be that if she felt

1625
01:24:27,880 --> 01:24:30,680
Speaker 2: away about the show, then she felt away about the show.

1626
01:24:30,680 --> 01:24:32,439
Speaker 2: I mean, sure, she was probably triggered by some stuff

1627
01:24:32,439 --> 01:24:33,960
Speaker 2: when Yeah, but it took a while for us to

1628
01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:36,800
Speaker 2: get there. That's why I was switching around in my scene. Rod.

1629
01:24:37,880 --> 01:24:40,000
Speaker 2: It took a long time for us to get there.

1630
01:24:40,120 --> 01:24:42,920
Speaker 2: It was before this, it was this, and what about this?

1631
01:24:43,080 --> 01:24:45,280
Speaker 2: And she should do this? And then we got to well,

1632
01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:47,719
Speaker 2: maybe she was triggered by it. It seemed very obvious

1633
01:24:47,760 --> 01:24:51,000
Speaker 2: she was triggered by something. Maybe they called her a

1634
01:24:51,120 --> 01:24:55,880
Speaker 2: dolty in her life she could think about it. It's

1635
01:24:55,960 --> 01:24:59,519
Speaker 2: like we all grew up and we saw these jokes.

1636
01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:01,920
Speaker 2: They didn't really make those kind of beady b jokes

1637
01:25:01,920 --> 01:25:04,080
Speaker 2: about life skin chicks. They kind of they didn't. It

1638
01:25:04,200 --> 01:25:08,280
Speaker 2: was mostly about like dark skinned women, right, So why

1639
01:25:08,400 --> 01:25:12,800
Speaker 2: do you think you can say some but we know

1640
01:25:13,280 --> 01:25:16,160
Speaker 2: that that stereotype was attached to a certain type, and

1641
01:25:16,720 --> 01:25:21,360
Speaker 2: so was the manly you're manly and you're angry. That

1642
01:25:21,640 --> 01:25:24,560
Speaker 2: was more thrown at dark skinned women. Yes, I know

1643
01:25:24,600 --> 01:25:27,800
Speaker 2: you're about to say there was three people that were

1644
01:25:27,880 --> 01:25:32,559
Speaker 2: light skin them, but I'm saying, you know, the exactly three. Yeah,

1645
01:25:32,560 --> 01:25:50,679
Speaker 2: I'm not yeah, not exactly three before anybody anybody. Yeah,

1646
01:25:51,160 --> 01:25:54,519
Speaker 2: but you gotta think it is it's typically throwing at

1647
01:25:54,600 --> 01:25:57,360
Speaker 2: dark skinned women. And of course my sister has never

1648
01:25:57,439 --> 01:26:00,599
Speaker 2: said anything, my cousins have never said anything. But I'm

1649
01:26:00,640 --> 01:26:01,880
Speaker 2: not gonna look at that and be like, well, that

1650
01:26:02,000 --> 01:26:04,000
Speaker 2: means Ari Landis can't feel the type of way she

1651
01:26:04,120 --> 01:26:06,080
Speaker 2: can feel however she wants. And it's not like this

1652
01:26:06,360 --> 01:26:07,920
Speaker 2: is the first time this has come up. We've heard

1653
01:26:07,960 --> 01:26:11,000
Speaker 2: people say this before about Pam, and then our response

1654
01:26:11,120 --> 01:26:13,760
Speaker 2: is always the same thing. Oh the man all thought

1655
01:26:14,160 --> 01:26:17,240
Speaker 2: Pam was the baddest. That doesn't mean anything. That does

1656
01:26:17,400 --> 01:26:19,080
Speaker 2: mean thing. That doesn't mean that people weren't still picking

1657
01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:21,400
Speaker 2: on Ari Lennox at her school. I don't know Ari Lennox.

1658
01:26:21,960 --> 01:26:24,439
Speaker 2: I couldn't tell you a single Ori Linx song. I

1659
01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:27,120
Speaker 2: know y'all told me she's a singer. I know nothing

1660
01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:29,479
Speaker 2: about her, but this could be someone at the gas

1661
01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:31,200
Speaker 2: station that says this, and I'd be like, I feel you.

1662
01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:33,600
Speaker 2: I don't necessarily agree with you, because I'm not in

1663
01:26:33,640 --> 01:26:34,720
Speaker 2: your position, but I feel you.

1664
01:26:35,280 --> 01:26:35,320
Speaker 3: Know.

1665
01:26:35,400 --> 01:26:37,200
Speaker 2: That's what I was asking about her age too. But

1666
01:26:37,280 --> 01:26:38,880
Speaker 2: I think all this jumping out and being like, well,

1667
01:26:38,920 --> 01:26:40,960
Speaker 2: this and this and this and this, I don't think

1668
01:26:41,000 --> 01:26:43,080
Speaker 2: that really helps the discourse because all we're doing is

1669
01:26:43,120 --> 01:26:46,240
Speaker 2: we're defending a show we liked. That's all we're doing this.

1670
01:26:46,520 --> 01:26:48,240
Speaker 2: If we didn't like Martin Spike, we would not be

1671
01:26:48,280 --> 01:26:52,120
Speaker 2: having this conversation at all. You'll be like, Okay, I

1672
01:26:52,200 --> 01:26:54,400
Speaker 2: feel fairly fatter if we'd be like, Okay, what's the

1673
01:26:54,479 --> 01:26:55,000
Speaker 2: next topic?

1674
01:26:55,560 --> 01:26:56,120
Speaker 5: Because Martin?

1675
01:26:56,120 --> 01:27:00,479
Speaker 2: We hold Martin because dear yeah, because she was like,

1676
01:27:00,720 --> 01:27:03,760
Speaker 2: you can't be Martin. But then it's like, no, let

1677
01:27:03,800 --> 01:27:06,040
Speaker 2: me watch the video of what she said. I always

1678
01:27:06,040 --> 01:27:07,960
Speaker 2: look at it as an age thing, though for some reason,

1679
01:27:08,200 --> 01:27:10,200
Speaker 2: like I feel like one probably came out of yet

1680
01:27:10,240 --> 01:27:12,800
Speaker 2: she was born, right. I don't know how much that

1681
01:27:12,880 --> 01:27:15,280
Speaker 2: is she's born in ninety one, that it came out

1682
01:27:15,320 --> 01:27:17,160
Speaker 2: in ninety two, But I get you. I think I

1683
01:27:17,240 --> 01:27:20,040
Speaker 2: think again, we're just making excuses for how she felt.

1684
01:27:20,439 --> 01:27:22,840
Speaker 2: But the only reason of just saying she feels that

1685
01:27:23,000 --> 01:27:25,240
Speaker 2: way and she has a right to feel that, absolutely.

1686
01:27:25,479 --> 01:27:27,519
Speaker 4: I think the only reason I said that to ask

1687
01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:29,640
Speaker 4: about the age because again, like we just said, your

1688
01:27:29,680 --> 01:27:32,160
Speaker 4: sister didn't feel a way about it, My sister, I

1689
01:27:32,200 --> 01:27:35,479
Speaker 4: don't know if she felt Yeah, I don't know anybody that.

1690
01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:37,760
Speaker 2: My sister feelt some way about it. She would have,

1691
01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:40,920
Speaker 2: it would have been known. Yeah, Well then maybe maybe

1692
01:27:41,280 --> 01:27:45,160
Speaker 2: y'all and my family were lucky and that they didn't

1693
01:27:45,200 --> 01:27:48,160
Speaker 2: deal with those types of colorism. I don't know. Well,

1694
01:27:48,520 --> 01:27:49,760
Speaker 2: I think I don't know. I got you.

1695
01:27:49,960 --> 01:27:53,280
Speaker 3: So for those around me, it's not a show that

1696
01:27:53,439 --> 01:27:56,160
Speaker 3: makes them feel the type of way is about the

1697
01:27:56,240 --> 01:28:00,320
Speaker 3: fucking real life experiences that makes them feel probably experience

1698
01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:03,400
Speaker 3: and colorism. The show's not a trigger. Who fucking life is.

1699
01:28:03,479 --> 01:28:06,280
Speaker 2: She probably had that, She probably had that. True, she

1700
01:28:06,360 --> 01:28:09,760
Speaker 2: probably had that experience. That's how triggers work, man, But

1701
01:28:10,560 --> 01:28:14,719
Speaker 2: triggers are show TV about it, triggers you think about

1702
01:28:14,720 --> 01:28:18,880
Speaker 2: real life. I get you, but I guess speak.

1703
01:28:18,880 --> 01:28:24,280
Speaker 3: I guess I'm just saying that, Like I guess said said,

1704
01:28:26,280 --> 01:28:28,719
Speaker 3: it's a tricky conversation to have because she's talking about

1705
01:28:28,720 --> 01:28:33,000
Speaker 3: her personal experiences. But there's a larger conversation about I

1706
01:28:33,040 --> 01:28:36,120
Speaker 3: guess for me as taking a pragmatic approach to it.

1707
01:28:36,240 --> 01:28:37,720
Speaker 2: This is where I struggle with it.

1708
01:28:38,200 --> 01:28:41,640
Speaker 3: It's because of how It's because the origin of how

1709
01:28:41,720 --> 01:28:44,840
Speaker 3: the character was created. It wasn't damn, we're right about

1710
01:28:44,840 --> 01:28:48,120
Speaker 3: to Sidney Sweetey. It wasn't intended to initiate that type

1711
01:28:48,160 --> 01:28:51,040
Speaker 3: of response, but the response was initiated. People feel away

1712
01:28:51,080 --> 01:28:53,439
Speaker 3: about it, so people sneak out about how they felt

1713
01:28:53,479 --> 01:28:53,920
Speaker 3: about the head.

1714
01:28:54,040 --> 01:28:56,000
Speaker 2: Here we are having a conversation. But see the difference

1715
01:28:56,160 --> 01:28:59,920
Speaker 2: is I'm almost positive in her video she said, I

1716
01:29:00,240 --> 01:29:03,320
Speaker 2: love Martin. I'm not attacking Martin. I'm almost positive. I

1717
01:29:03,360 --> 01:29:04,920
Speaker 2: could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure I heard that.

1718
01:29:06,160 --> 01:29:08,479
Speaker 2: I don't think she was attacking Martin. She was just

1719
01:29:08,600 --> 01:29:12,840
Speaker 2: saying but the way he treated her made me feel

1720
01:29:12,880 --> 01:29:15,640
Speaker 2: a type of way. She didn't say everybody needs to

1721
01:29:15,640 --> 01:29:18,760
Speaker 2: stop watching Martin. Fuck Martin, I hate She didn't say

1722
01:29:18,840 --> 01:29:22,360
Speaker 2: none of that, but we as men, which is I

1723
01:29:22,400 --> 01:29:25,040
Speaker 2: think is the funniest part. A bunch of dudes in

1724
01:29:25,160 --> 01:29:27,360
Speaker 2: here being like she needs to shut the fuck off.

1725
01:29:27,600 --> 01:29:35,200
Speaker 2: Nobody said that. You don't get Jesus, It's not even

1726
01:29:35,280 --> 01:29:37,240
Speaker 2: just me, b Like Ki could have said this, He

1727
01:29:37,240 --> 01:29:40,920
Speaker 2: would have said that, but he takes me overly liberally. Yes,

1728
01:29:41,120 --> 01:29:44,400
Speaker 2: nobody literally said that, Spike, but figuratively I thought I

1729
01:29:44,479 --> 01:29:46,960
Speaker 2: might have slipped what happened.

1730
01:29:48,240 --> 01:29:54,640
Speaker 3: I thought, let's get away from a man, because we

1731
01:29:54,720 --> 01:29:59,519
Speaker 3: can't tell how she feel. I saw a clip of

1732
01:29:59,600 --> 01:30:03,680
Speaker 3: Van Leet and having a discussion about this, and he

1733
01:30:03,880 --> 01:30:05,960
Speaker 3: was talking about just the way that we all just

1734
01:30:06,040 --> 01:30:08,599
Speaker 3: kind of talked at Jones with the Jones with each

1735
01:30:08,600 --> 01:30:12,439
Speaker 3: other back in the day, and that that's just how

1736
01:30:12,520 --> 01:30:16,760
Speaker 3: we talked to interact. And we didn't probably perceive that

1737
01:30:17,120 --> 01:30:20,519
Speaker 3: to be negative. It was just we were just doing

1738
01:30:20,600 --> 01:30:23,919
Speaker 3: what we naturally do and then realize that that was harmful,

1739
01:30:24,280 --> 01:30:28,040
Speaker 3: when in actuality it probably was, but it was a

1740
01:30:28,080 --> 01:30:31,000
Speaker 3: way for us to kind of mask our kind of pain.

1741
01:30:35,280 --> 01:30:36,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, what y'all think about that perspective?

1742
01:30:36,880 --> 01:30:38,400
Speaker 3: So he was kind of using that to say, Yeah,

1743
01:30:38,439 --> 01:30:40,360
Speaker 3: they kind of joked and clown about each other because

1744
01:30:40,360 --> 01:30:43,080
Speaker 3: that's what they do, and maybe they ain't realize that

1745
01:30:43,160 --> 01:30:45,080
Speaker 3: that was actually harmful rhetoric to one another.

1746
01:30:45,360 --> 01:30:47,839
Speaker 2: Think about this. Kids still be called an African booty scratcher.

1747
01:30:48,080 --> 01:30:50,080
Speaker 2: I know you probably haven't, but have you ever called

1748
01:30:50,080 --> 01:30:52,320
Speaker 2: an African booty scratcher. You know that was you from

1749
01:30:52,360 --> 01:30:56,439
Speaker 2: Boys in the Hood, right, boys the hood man? But

1750
01:30:56,880 --> 01:31:00,200
Speaker 2: you said from oh okay, got you said? He tried

1751
01:31:00,240 --> 01:31:02,360
Speaker 2: to give me again. I picked up on your tricks.

1752
01:31:02,760 --> 01:31:06,160
Speaker 2: It wasn't from wasn't from it, but a kid I

1753
01:31:06,280 --> 01:31:09,880
Speaker 2: was called that African, but probably rarely because he's you're

1754
01:31:09,880 --> 01:31:12,120
Speaker 2: a little bit later. See he was just about to

1755
01:31:12,120 --> 01:31:16,479
Speaker 2: say it. He knows that that's crazy. Bro, we're at

1756
01:31:21,520 --> 01:31:23,840
Speaker 2: I'm not that dark, but we're we're we're we're a

1757
01:31:23,880 --> 01:31:25,439
Speaker 2: shade too dark. I'm a share too darker than.

1758
01:31:25,400 --> 01:31:29,360
Speaker 3: You, Spike, and we rank them mics at least me

1759
01:31:29,479 --> 01:31:34,320
Speaker 3: and rod on the same before is probably a shade shade.

1760
01:31:34,479 --> 01:31:36,120
Speaker 2: Like you said, I'm the lights. We were trying to

1761
01:31:36,200 --> 01:31:39,840
Speaker 2: figure out what he is. You're you're, you're below him.

1762
01:31:40,360 --> 01:31:44,800
Speaker 4: No pause, pro homo, I think the same complexion. But

1763
01:31:44,920 --> 01:31:46,400
Speaker 4: we undertone. That's what we came.

1764
01:31:46,479 --> 01:31:48,040
Speaker 2: I thought we came to the to the griment of

1765
01:31:48,080 --> 01:31:53,120
Speaker 2: the undertone. Different a lot here. So anyway, I used

1766
01:31:53,120 --> 01:31:56,440
Speaker 2: to be Kim's complexion, if you believe it, what California.

1767
01:31:57,360 --> 01:32:00,360
Speaker 2: I swear to god, I was a lot lighter because

1768
01:32:00,360 --> 01:32:02,000
Speaker 2: I don't like I don't believe you when you told

1769
01:32:02,040 --> 01:32:03,840
Speaker 2: me I could show you young pictures if you need,

1770
01:32:04,280 --> 01:32:08,000
Speaker 2: I don't show you. Before moving to Georgia, when I

1771
01:32:08,080 --> 01:32:10,160
Speaker 2: was like, if I could, if I showed you a

1772
01:32:10,240 --> 01:32:13,200
Speaker 2: picture of me at like eight, nine, ten twelve, I

1773
01:32:13,439 --> 01:32:16,560
Speaker 2: was at least three or four shades lighter. Sometimes you

1774
01:32:16,600 --> 01:32:23,240
Speaker 2: can see it like I burned very easy, like look out,

1775
01:32:23,280 --> 01:32:26,679
Speaker 2: look out, Like my legs are compared to like my arms. Yeah,

1776
01:32:26,880 --> 01:32:29,599
Speaker 2: I'm telling you anyway, it doesn't matter. The whole point

1777
01:32:29,720 --> 01:32:35,960
Speaker 2: is different. Brother. Yeah, yeah, y'all don't burn like that. Yes,

1778
01:32:36,040 --> 01:32:38,600
Speaker 2: because you probably spent days out in the sun. You

1779
01:32:38,720 --> 01:32:47,960
Speaker 2: spent netate. He's definitely been outside a lot from him

1780
01:32:48,080 --> 01:32:55,200
Speaker 2: was a fieldy from riding donkeys and ship That's funny.

1781
01:32:55,400 --> 01:32:58,599
Speaker 2: You're the one mar was talking about riding palm right right.

1782
01:32:59,360 --> 01:33:01,960
Speaker 2: But my point is when I was younger, I was

1783
01:33:02,040 --> 01:33:03,960
Speaker 2: even though I was lighter, I was still a little

1784
01:33:04,000 --> 01:33:05,800
Speaker 2: bit darker than a lot of the other black kids.

1785
01:33:05,840 --> 01:33:08,360
Speaker 2: So yes, they would call me African booty scratcher. Did

1786
01:33:08,439 --> 01:33:11,240
Speaker 2: I get upset at the time, No, because I didn't

1787
01:33:11,240 --> 01:33:14,360
Speaker 2: even know where it came from. But I would probably

1788
01:33:14,400 --> 01:33:17,559
Speaker 2: white people, Okay, probably white people, but as I got

1789
01:33:17,600 --> 01:33:20,080
Speaker 2: a little bit older, and that continued to be a

1790
01:33:20,120 --> 01:33:22,400
Speaker 2: thing African booty scratcher. It was like, wait a minute,

1791
01:33:22,400 --> 01:33:24,960
Speaker 2: why are you only calling me this? And then you

1792
01:33:25,160 --> 01:33:29,040
Speaker 2: realize why that is. Now, if there was a show

1793
01:33:29,880 --> 01:33:32,880
Speaker 2: that was there was a dark skinned black man on there,

1794
01:33:32,960 --> 01:33:34,840
Speaker 2: and the lighter skinned black man would call him an

1795
01:33:34,840 --> 01:33:37,400
Speaker 2: African booty scratcher, Yeah, maybe as a kid, I might

1796
01:33:37,439 --> 01:33:39,800
Speaker 2: have been triggered by that. So all I'm saying is

1797
01:33:40,280 --> 01:33:44,160
Speaker 2: we can love the show, we can disagree with her take,

1798
01:33:44,280 --> 01:33:48,200
Speaker 2: but I don't know that we should like disrespectfully kind

1799
01:33:48,240 --> 01:33:50,240
Speaker 2: of ignore her take, because I'm sure she's not the

1800
01:33:50,280 --> 01:33:53,120
Speaker 2: only one that thinks that. You got teenagers. Do they

1801
01:33:53,160 --> 01:33:55,280
Speaker 2: joke on each other like we used to do? They

1802
01:33:55,320 --> 01:33:56,479
Speaker 2: do Jones and and stuff like that.

1803
01:33:57,760 --> 01:34:02,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, they yes, absolutely don't change, Probably not do it

1804
01:34:02,520 --> 01:34:05,439
Speaker 4: worse now, Probably worse because when we.

1805
01:34:05,520 --> 01:34:07,080
Speaker 2: Were kids, there was certain ship you just there's a

1806
01:34:07,120 --> 01:34:13,840
Speaker 2: line you couldn't cross. Relative relative, dead relative, can't do it.

1807
01:34:14,320 --> 01:34:17,280
Speaker 2: Do it. Where I grew up, it was also your

1808
01:34:17,320 --> 01:34:18,000
Speaker 2: crackhead uncle.

1809
01:34:18,600 --> 01:34:23,360
Speaker 3: You say that, you know what's funny? Though I don't

1810
01:34:23,360 --> 01:34:25,040
Speaker 3: think that's funny as we used to be.

1811
01:34:25,160 --> 01:34:28,360
Speaker 4: They don't think they're funny as we used to.

1812
01:34:28,600 --> 01:34:32,559
Speaker 2: They're just mean now just maybe we were.

1813
01:34:33,240 --> 01:34:37,559
Speaker 3: We had a whole classes cracking like yeah, you need

1814
01:34:37,600 --> 01:34:45,960
Speaker 3: to right, I've heard some of these. We were.

1815
01:34:46,000 --> 01:34:49,559
Speaker 2: We were stand up comedians because we had to be Ye.

1816
01:34:49,880 --> 01:34:54,880
Speaker 2: Remember boys and girls, Yeah you have to bang. Maybe

1817
01:34:54,960 --> 01:35:00,560
Speaker 2: not Nashville, butwhere like character I remember the count like

1818
01:35:00,640 --> 01:35:01,919
Speaker 2: in summer pro the counselors.

1819
01:35:02,280 --> 01:35:04,200
Speaker 4: They will tear you up like the kids as far

1820
01:35:04,280 --> 01:35:05,800
Speaker 4: as joking on you as soon as you walk in.

1821
01:35:05,880 --> 01:35:07,960
Speaker 4: You got some funny little shoes get you.

1822
01:35:08,280 --> 01:35:10,720
Speaker 2: They getting you. It don't matter that you're eight years old, bro,

1823
01:35:10,840 --> 01:35:13,439
Speaker 2: and they've grown. They like, what is them? What you got?

1824
01:35:13,560 --> 01:35:15,720
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, anybody could get it? Like then they stole

1825
01:35:15,760 --> 01:35:18,280
Speaker 4: that from us that what are those? Yeah we did

1826
01:35:18,680 --> 01:35:19,240
Speaker 4: that was us.

1827
01:35:20,600 --> 01:35:26,320
Speaker 2: Man, get better. I think it's get better. She always

1828
01:35:26,320 --> 01:35:33,000
Speaker 2: complained about something. Let her complain. She is always complains

1829
01:35:33,200 --> 01:35:35,840
Speaker 2: always if she want to use that platform, let her

1830
01:35:36,000 --> 01:35:40,400
Speaker 2: letter complain. She said, she you can agree and disagree,

1831
01:35:40,439 --> 01:35:42,960
Speaker 2: but let her be the same Guys that will say

1832
01:35:43,000 --> 01:35:44,640
Speaker 2: put you black women be, But then they clown them

1833
01:35:44,640 --> 01:35:47,200
Speaker 2: when she said something about something that bothers it's not pretty.

1834
01:35:47,240 --> 01:35:50,439
Speaker 2: All that's fine. She can get it off that she

1835
01:35:50,640 --> 01:35:54,639
Speaker 2: is always complaining herself. Like that sounds like a white

1836
01:35:54,640 --> 01:35:56,800
Speaker 2: man talking about black folks. That's how that sounds like

1837
01:35:57,560 --> 01:36:00,759
Speaker 2: work and what they say about us. They always complaining

1838
01:36:00,800 --> 01:36:03,880
Speaker 2: about something. Always got your boy what's his name?

1839
01:36:04,040 --> 01:36:04,240
Speaker 3: Chad?

1840
01:36:04,360 --> 01:36:07,479
Speaker 2: You got that from Chad because Chad Man, Spike, I

1841
01:36:07,680 --> 01:36:09,880
Speaker 2: like you, Spik Beers. You don't ever complain, man, You

1842
01:36:09,920 --> 01:36:12,160
Speaker 2: don't ever complain. You might be an African booty scratcher,

1843
01:36:12,600 --> 01:36:14,600
Speaker 2: but you don't complain. You'll complain about it. You just

1844
01:36:14,640 --> 01:36:16,559
Speaker 2: scratch it and move on. You're not like them. You're

1845
01:36:16,600 --> 01:36:21,200
Speaker 2: not like the west of them there, You're not like

1846
01:36:24,439 --> 01:36:30,280
Speaker 2: you must be a part of the good jeans. I

1847
01:36:30,479 --> 01:36:35,879
Speaker 2: Spike got them good James, the non complaining jeans, complaining

1848
01:36:36,479 --> 01:36:38,479
Speaker 2: to put cream in my coffee for me. Spike, you

1849
01:36:38,479 --> 01:36:41,599
Speaker 2: don't complain, man, that's your jeans, dude, that's James.

1850
01:36:50,200 --> 01:36:50,759
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm.

1851
01:36:57,439 --> 01:37:01,519
Speaker 2: Uh. We'll tell you a couple of minutes love before

1852
01:37:01,640 --> 01:37:02,360
Speaker 2: going on time.

1853
01:37:03,040 --> 01:37:05,240
Speaker 3: Atlanta isn't the top four major city in the US.

1854
01:37:06,120 --> 01:37:08,280
Speaker 3: So the four are Chicago, New York, l A. And

1855
01:37:08,280 --> 01:37:10,439
Speaker 3: Atlanta in what regard Yeah.

1856
01:37:11,680 --> 01:37:16,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, like what it was a conversation. What's the criteria

1857
01:37:16,720 --> 01:37:19,040
Speaker 2: of being you put it in there.

1858
01:37:19,120 --> 01:37:20,600
Speaker 4: It wasn't really a criteria if it was just a

1859
01:37:20,640 --> 01:37:23,040
Speaker 4: conversation being had that people couldn't believe that Atlanta was

1860
01:37:23,240 --> 01:37:25,800
Speaker 4: top four. They were saying it was d C or

1861
01:37:25,840 --> 01:37:29,560
Speaker 4: it was Houston. I didn't really see any criteria for

1862
01:37:29,920 --> 01:37:32,679
Speaker 4: just as far as the top metropolitan city in the US.

1863
01:37:33,640 --> 01:37:35,920
Speaker 2: So they think it's l A or New York. They

1864
01:37:35,960 --> 01:37:38,400
Speaker 2: think it's they think those are the four Chicago, l A,

1865
01:37:38,520 --> 01:37:38,880
Speaker 2: New York.

1866
01:37:39,479 --> 01:37:41,519
Speaker 3: So they said Atlanta should be on the list, all right.

1867
01:37:42,240 --> 01:37:48,120
Speaker 2: Shouldn't should not? You think it's like it's like New Hollywood.

1868
01:37:48,439 --> 01:37:51,639
Speaker 4: You think the fourth it's up there, it's top something.

1869
01:37:52,080 --> 01:37:54,559
Speaker 4: It's just like the New Hollywood. It's so many celebrities here,

1870
01:37:54,680 --> 01:37:59,800
Speaker 4: so many people come here and plants like yeah, and

1871
01:37:59,840 --> 01:38:03,599
Speaker 4: it's a major business in the south of Houston, Miami

1872
01:38:03,760 --> 01:38:03,960
Speaker 4: d C.

1873
01:38:05,080 --> 01:38:09,400
Speaker 3: Miami has Vegas, but that's a vacation spot US.

1874
01:38:09,800 --> 01:38:12,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a vacation spots Like Yeah, I want to

1875
01:38:12,479 --> 01:38:14,840
Speaker 2: consider like Vegas and Atlanta. They live.

1876
01:38:14,920 --> 01:38:19,000
Speaker 3: They just said major for major city, So I think

1877
01:38:19,800 --> 01:38:23,960
Speaker 3: Miami and Vegas may have an argument, but Atlanta's definitely

1878
01:38:24,080 --> 01:38:24,599
Speaker 3: top five.

1879
01:38:25,479 --> 01:38:27,360
Speaker 2: You know, I would definitely agree with that, especially from

1880
01:38:27,400 --> 01:38:28,400
Speaker 2: a business perspective.

1881
01:38:28,439 --> 01:38:32,160
Speaker 3: Everything Nobody talking about Houston like that. No, you know,

1882
01:38:32,720 --> 01:38:34,920
Speaker 3: the only ones that you ever hear. I definitely hear

1883
01:38:35,320 --> 01:38:38,120
Speaker 3: Miami and Vegas when people want to go gamble.

1884
01:38:38,240 --> 01:38:42,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's it. But nobody's yeah in DC ain't well,

1885
01:38:42,400 --> 01:38:47,640
Speaker 2: I wouldn't consider DC. Nobody DC either. So no, they

1886
01:38:47,720 --> 01:38:52,960
Speaker 2: still talk about d C Nation Capital D. It's emerging

1887
01:38:53,000 --> 01:38:55,160
Speaker 2: back as like black people were left there for a while.

1888
01:38:55,240 --> 01:38:57,280
Speaker 2: But going back is that the criteria is just that

1889
01:38:58,000 --> 01:39:01,920
Speaker 2: I just do that there, Yeah, don't. Yeah, because all

1890
01:39:01,920 --> 01:39:04,960
Speaker 2: the museums and stuff for there. Yeah, DC still gets

1891
01:39:05,120 --> 01:39:09,839
Speaker 2: a good amount of I think Atlanta's bigger. Yeah. Anybody

1892
01:39:09,880 --> 01:39:12,000
Speaker 2: saying that shouldn't be on this list is bugging and

1893
01:39:12,080 --> 01:39:14,800
Speaker 2: they've never paid attention to what Atlanta's doing, especially right now.

1894
01:39:15,240 --> 01:39:16,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, Atlanta is mentioned.

1895
01:39:17,000 --> 01:39:20,479
Speaker 2: I feel like I think that for is solid. Yeah yeah, yeah,

1896
01:39:22,320 --> 01:39:25,679
Speaker 2: y'all read Jayleen's messages. You got two of them. Jesus Christ,

1897
01:39:26,120 --> 01:39:28,160
Speaker 2: it's cool, it's cool.

1898
01:39:29,000 --> 01:39:34,120
Speaker 3: Love were talking this, How I go bro, NBA, Young Boy,

1899
01:39:34,400 --> 01:39:38,000
Speaker 3: Playboard CARDI only rap stars under thirty?

1900
01:39:38,479 --> 01:39:41,960
Speaker 2: Do y'all agree with that? Only rap stars under thirty? Superstars,

1901
01:39:42,840 --> 01:39:45,640
Speaker 2: rap superstar bro, it's then, bro. We talked about it

1902
01:39:45,720 --> 01:39:48,160
Speaker 2: though on that end did we put Travis Scott there?

1903
01:39:48,520 --> 01:39:50,640
Speaker 4: Thirty four years old? Okay, so he thirty four. We

1904
01:39:50,800 --> 01:39:52,160
Speaker 4: were trying to figure out who were.

1905
01:39:52,280 --> 01:39:55,240
Speaker 2: I think, and I think we all came up with card.

1906
01:39:55,560 --> 01:39:58,400
Speaker 2: I thought it was Jayleen you listening? Who who? Who said?

1907
01:39:58,439 --> 01:40:01,519
Speaker 2: Look y'all over time? He did say that, yeah he's

1908
01:40:01,560 --> 01:40:06,400
Speaker 2: under thirty. Yeah, well he was for a minute, maybe

1909
01:40:06,439 --> 01:40:09,080
Speaker 2: not anymore. I don't know who. I mean, y'ady probably

1910
01:40:09,080 --> 01:40:11,840
Speaker 2: over thirty two, even be a young boy. I remember,

1911
01:40:12,040 --> 01:40:16,080
Speaker 2: I define like he's he's definitely so yeah, little y'all,

1912
01:40:16,080 --> 01:40:19,439
Speaker 2: he's twenty seven. But I find Spike, you're probably right

1913
01:40:19,479 --> 01:40:22,599
Speaker 2: he's not under thirty, and little baby is just at thirty.

1914
01:40:24,040 --> 01:40:26,320
Speaker 2: So damn Chief Keith ain't thirty yet. I don't know

1915
01:40:26,360 --> 01:40:31,080
Speaker 2: what keeps forty seven? Howld she keeps? It is only

1916
01:40:31,160 --> 01:40:33,920
Speaker 2: twenty nine you look for He just looked like he's

1917
01:40:33,920 --> 01:40:34,599
Speaker 2: been through some ship.

1918
01:40:36,520 --> 01:40:40,200
Speaker 3: Yeah you got cat, he's under third twenty nine, called

1919
01:40:40,240 --> 01:40:44,400
Speaker 3: that black it's twenty eight, nice spice twenty four. I

1920
01:40:44,439 --> 01:40:47,479
Speaker 3: thought he was forty roddy rich twenty six. These guys

1921
01:40:47,520 --> 01:40:51,679
Speaker 3: ain't None of thy black is the right and little Baby.

1922
01:40:52,080 --> 01:40:54,200
Speaker 1: I feel like he's like Mike said about Yady, he

1923
01:40:54,320 --> 01:40:56,320
Speaker 1: had like a moment where he was like a start

1924
01:40:56,360 --> 01:40:57,960
Speaker 1: and I feel like it's he's.

1925
01:40:57,840 --> 01:40:58,599
Speaker 2: Still in the news.

1926
01:40:58,720 --> 01:41:01,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, like all of the guys but not music older

1927
01:41:01,880 --> 01:41:04,000
Speaker 3: in their forties. Damn the Drake Kendrick.

1928
01:41:04,080 --> 01:41:08,640
Speaker 2: Yea, yeah, I think young Boy said, y'all, let me

1929
01:41:08,680 --> 01:41:13,240
Speaker 2: see who's putting it here. Yeah, Joja Cat is probably

1930
01:41:13,280 --> 01:41:19,280
Speaker 2: a superstars not thirty. How is Joja not thirty? I

1931
01:41:19,320 --> 01:41:21,160
Speaker 2: ain't know. Make somel there you go. So yeah, he's

1932
01:41:21,160 --> 01:41:27,880
Speaker 2: almost there. Is definitely a fucking super meg a woman.

1933
01:41:28,479 --> 01:41:31,479
Speaker 2: I feel like they had they got a better lane.

1934
01:41:31,720 --> 01:41:35,720
Speaker 4: It's more Yeah, females under thirty that a super I

1935
01:41:35,800 --> 01:41:37,200
Speaker 4: want to say, we brought that up when we did

1936
01:41:37,920 --> 01:41:40,240
Speaker 4: under thirty. Well, Spike and bringing up because he put

1937
01:41:40,240 --> 01:41:43,320
Speaker 4: this in the end was dead hip hops and Spike

1938
01:41:43,360 --> 01:41:46,280
Speaker 4: it's a dead end you talking hip hop clarified.

1939
01:41:46,439 --> 01:41:50,160
Speaker 2: It was a dead hip hop conversation. Yeah, yeah, I

1940
01:41:50,200 --> 01:41:51,600
Speaker 2: don't know where this where this come from. This is

1941
01:41:51,640 --> 01:41:53,800
Speaker 2: like a conversation on Twitter or something I saw.

1942
01:41:55,040 --> 01:41:55,200
Speaker 1: Uh.

1943
01:41:56,120 --> 01:41:59,960
Speaker 4: It was a producer talking some producer was talking about

1944
01:42:00,240 --> 01:42:04,760
Speaker 4: like the emergence of the older MC and how well

1945
01:42:04,800 --> 01:42:08,880
Speaker 4: they're doing with the success of the Clips and Freddy

1946
01:42:08,920 --> 01:42:09,439
Speaker 4: Gibbs album.

1947
01:42:09,439 --> 01:42:10,040
Speaker 2: It's just dropped.

1948
01:42:10,080 --> 01:42:13,599
Speaker 4: He forty Drake Kendrick, like y'all said, they forty years old,

1949
01:42:13,600 --> 01:42:16,599
Speaker 4: and they were talking about how rap has changed from

1950
01:42:16,960 --> 01:42:20,040
Speaker 4: being a young man's game more so to an older

1951
01:42:20,160 --> 01:42:21,880
Speaker 4: man's like sport now.

1952
01:42:23,400 --> 01:42:26,080
Speaker 2: Damn shit on life support. Sounds like they're exaggerating a

1953
01:42:26,080 --> 01:42:28,960
Speaker 2: little bit done that, but I mean an old man's game.

1954
01:42:29,160 --> 01:42:30,880
Speaker 2: I don't think so those are the people that are

1955
01:42:30,920 --> 01:42:33,760
Speaker 2: most successful. Yeah, if you're looking at it like, but

1956
01:42:33,840 --> 01:42:35,400
Speaker 2: you're not gonna get a I bet you won't get

1957
01:42:35,400 --> 01:42:36,280
Speaker 2: a new young dude.

1958
01:42:36,280 --> 01:42:38,120
Speaker 4: You say that, you're right, That's what I'm saying. So

1959
01:42:38,400 --> 01:42:40,160
Speaker 4: when Kendrick came out, he was, oh, you should have

1960
01:42:40,280 --> 01:42:42,120
Speaker 4: new old Like, could a fifty year old come out

1961
01:42:42,160 --> 01:42:44,519
Speaker 4: then this be their first? A new forty year old

1962
01:42:44,600 --> 01:42:47,800
Speaker 4: come out drop his first album and be successful like that.

1963
01:42:47,960 --> 01:42:49,880
Speaker 2: Kendrick's been in the game for ten years now, right,

1964
01:42:51,560 --> 01:42:53,320
Speaker 2: longer than that, right, So when he entered and got

1965
01:42:53,360 --> 01:42:55,560
Speaker 2: really popular, he was in his twenty early thirties or

1966
01:42:55,640 --> 01:43:01,040
Speaker 2: late twenties. So I think these are I mean, obviously

1967
01:43:01,120 --> 01:43:02,600
Speaker 2: y'all dead in folks know better than me, But this

1968
01:43:02,760 --> 01:43:04,800
Speaker 2: just sounds like more people that just jump out there

1969
01:43:04,840 --> 01:43:08,040
Speaker 2: and they say, well, you know, rap is rap is changing,

1970
01:43:08,080 --> 01:43:09,720
Speaker 2: and rap is doing this, rap is doing that because

1971
01:43:09,720 --> 01:43:12,120
Speaker 2: they want a hot take. You know, rap is no

1972
01:43:12,200 --> 01:43:14,120
Speaker 2: longer a young man's sport. It's an old man's sport.

1973
01:43:14,400 --> 01:43:17,879
Speaker 2: Who's your examples? The Clips and jay Z like they're

1974
01:43:17,880 --> 01:43:21,519
Speaker 2: already they've been superstars. They never stopped. Give me a

1975
01:43:21,600 --> 01:43:25,200
Speaker 2: new motherfucker that just showed up two days ago. That's

1976
01:43:25,280 --> 01:43:28,479
Speaker 2: that's that's thirty eight and it's dropping albums where you're like,

1977
01:43:28,520 --> 01:43:30,519
Speaker 2: oh my god, this is amazing. I don't know how

1978
01:43:30,640 --> 01:43:34,439
Speaker 2: often that happens. But I could also be wrong, but

1979
01:43:34,520 --> 01:43:43,560
Speaker 2: I see dead ends quiet. So yeah, I don't know.

1980
01:43:44,520 --> 01:43:53,120
Speaker 2: I don't know who the who the new hotness is. Yeah,

1981
01:43:53,600 --> 01:43:55,479
Speaker 2: Spike said, it is that person.

1982
01:43:55,720 --> 01:43:59,640
Speaker 3: Young young that I talked to some high schoolers and

1983
01:43:59,640 --> 01:44:03,000
Speaker 3: they gave you his name, some dude named b Sits.

1984
01:44:03,479 --> 01:44:04,040
Speaker 2: Is he young to?

1985
01:44:04,280 --> 01:44:06,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're all young. This is what the high school listening.

1986
01:44:06,520 --> 01:44:09,000
Speaker 3: But where they become superstars? I have no fucking idea.

1987
01:44:09,160 --> 01:44:11,679
Speaker 2: Well, music is so disposable now where it wasn't when

1988
01:44:11,720 --> 01:44:14,479
Speaker 2: we were in the Maybe do it look like years old.

1989
01:44:14,520 --> 01:44:16,880
Speaker 3: And they and they to your point, Mike need time

1990
01:44:16,960 --> 01:44:18,520
Speaker 3: to kind of grow and build.

1991
01:44:18,400 --> 01:44:22,639
Speaker 2: To get to that point, right, you know, And let's

1992
01:44:22,680 --> 01:44:25,439
Speaker 2: be also let's also be real clips, which first of all,

1993
01:44:25,600 --> 01:44:27,880
Speaker 2: let me say that's publicly, y'all review was not that bad.

1994
01:44:29,080 --> 01:44:31,519
Speaker 2: Y'all said some wild ship. But y'all review was not

1995
01:44:31,800 --> 01:44:35,360
Speaker 2: that bad. But it was a couple of things. He

1996
01:44:35,479 --> 01:44:37,000
Speaker 2: said that I could see why they got a little upset,

1997
01:44:37,040 --> 01:44:39,080
Speaker 2: but I think it's just Rod saying ship, but it

1998
01:44:39,120 --> 01:44:41,320
Speaker 2: doesn't really mean it that way. But when I first

1999
01:44:41,320 --> 01:44:43,400
Speaker 2: saw it, I was like, man, what And I'm like,

2000
01:44:43,560 --> 01:44:44,760
Speaker 2: it's right. Yeah.

2001
01:44:44,880 --> 01:44:47,960
Speaker 1: See, I knew you like once you watch it, I

2002
01:44:48,040 --> 01:44:50,600
Speaker 1: knew you was gonna I mean, I still disagree.

2003
01:44:50,200 --> 01:44:53,000
Speaker 2: With y'all like a motherfucker, but it wasn't like y'all anyway.

2004
01:44:53,200 --> 01:44:56,080
Speaker 2: But let's be real. Old people made the clips fucking hot.

2005
01:44:56,240 --> 01:44:58,720
Speaker 2: It wasn't a bunch of young people. Old people made

2006
01:44:58,760 --> 01:45:01,240
Speaker 2: the clips high. Like we said, so saying like, oh, well,

2007
01:45:01,280 --> 01:45:03,760
Speaker 2: the clips came out therefore as an old man game. Nah,

2008
01:45:03,800 --> 01:45:06,080
Speaker 2: I think y'all are exaggerating a little bit because people

2009
01:45:06,160 --> 01:45:08,759
Speaker 2: like our age are the ones running out buying clips.

2010
01:45:09,000 --> 01:45:13,680
Speaker 2: It wasn't y'all kids young kids. They clips out that

2011
01:45:13,880 --> 01:45:17,000
Speaker 2: dad wrapped to them. Yeah exactly, it's dad wrapped this

2012
01:45:17,240 --> 01:45:20,080
Speaker 2: right right, and they hear like that, Hey, check this out.

2013
01:45:20,080 --> 01:45:21,880
Speaker 2: You might like this clips ship Yeah.

2014
01:45:22,360 --> 01:45:22,559
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2015
01:45:22,720 --> 01:45:24,439
Speaker 1: They had an old school rollout man, like what we

2016
01:45:24,560 --> 01:45:26,240
Speaker 1: used to see back in the nineties, and it worked

2017
01:45:26,840 --> 01:45:28,240
Speaker 1: twenty five yeat.

2018
01:45:29,640 --> 01:45:32,160
Speaker 4: Oh he's popular, right, check them out. You probably like

2019
01:45:32,240 --> 01:45:35,600
Speaker 4: that ship by he just dropped the album. Is that

2020
01:45:35,760 --> 01:45:36,719
Speaker 4: like crash out music?

2021
01:45:38,000 --> 01:45:41,240
Speaker 2: Yeah? I've raged wrapped something like that. I don't like that.

2022
01:45:41,320 --> 01:45:43,120
Speaker 2: What is rage? I want to hear that it's crash

2023
01:45:43,160 --> 01:45:43,479
Speaker 2: out like.

2024
01:45:43,920 --> 01:45:46,040
Speaker 3: I don't think it's the rage you think. I think

2025
01:45:46,040 --> 01:45:48,640
Speaker 3: they just call it that. But did you listen to

2026
01:45:49,520 --> 01:45:50,240
Speaker 3: I know we got to move on.

2027
01:45:50,320 --> 01:45:52,360
Speaker 2: Did you listen to, uh, we gotta get out of here,

2028
01:45:53,439 --> 01:45:56,800
Speaker 2: damn bro got ten minutes? No, we don't. I thought

2029
01:45:57,040 --> 01:46:01,880
Speaker 2: I thought it's over at too what screenshot and everything?

2030
01:46:02,000 --> 01:46:04,599
Speaker 2: That big okay wrapping up that big ass clocking wrap

2031
01:46:04,680 --> 01:46:06,559
Speaker 2: it up. I didn't know it was one. I thought

2032
01:46:06,880 --> 01:46:08,960
Speaker 2: I've always thought it was two o'clock. I did too.

2033
01:46:10,200 --> 01:46:12,479
Speaker 2: I guess the wrong is being here at eight o'clock.

2034
01:46:12,800 --> 01:46:17,120
Speaker 2: It does say one we have more stuff on here.

2035
01:46:17,120 --> 01:46:20,320
Speaker 2: But I okay, fine, they give me. Why do we

2036
01:46:20,360 --> 01:46:22,280
Speaker 2: need a thirty minute gap between is the mic and

2037
01:46:22,360 --> 01:46:24,400
Speaker 2: the next recording. That's why it goes to too because

2038
01:46:24,400 --> 01:46:26,080
Speaker 2: I mean, we don't need really need a gap. So

2039
01:46:26,880 --> 01:46:34,679
Speaker 2: you finish. Okay, you an export bouncing or something that's true.

2040
01:46:34,760 --> 01:46:36,960
Speaker 2: That's sorry, Jalen. That was Ken's fault. This is a

2041
01:46:37,000 --> 01:46:37,479
Speaker 2: quick answer.

2042
01:46:37,520 --> 01:46:40,479
Speaker 4: Have y'all seen the alien the alien wrapping that walks

2043
01:46:40,479 --> 01:46:42,639
Speaker 4: around Atland and this dude dressed up like an alien.

2044
01:46:42,479 --> 01:46:45,160
Speaker 2: So that's real. Yes. I thought it was like getting

2045
01:46:45,160 --> 01:46:46,640
Speaker 2: like book for events and everything. I thought it was

2046
01:46:46,680 --> 01:46:48,240
Speaker 2: like a filter. I thought he was I thought it

2047
01:46:48,280 --> 01:46:51,040
Speaker 2: was like a nigga walking around in a a mask,

2048
01:46:52,120 --> 01:46:56,040
Speaker 2: masking the whole thing. That's dope, skin and everything, Like

2049
01:46:56,160 --> 01:46:58,280
Speaker 2: that's dope. I hope he's black. That's dope. You called

2050
01:46:58,600 --> 01:47:02,560
Speaker 2: at L you lying? I love it. I love it.

2051
01:47:03,920 --> 01:47:06,760
Speaker 4: Like Polo had a more House revealed that they was

2052
01:47:06,840 --> 01:47:10,280
Speaker 4: doing for their clothing line, because they're doing a the

2053
01:47:10,400 --> 01:47:13,200
Speaker 4: whole thing for more House history and he was one

2054
01:47:13,240 --> 01:47:13,799
Speaker 4: of the models.

2055
01:47:14,040 --> 01:47:18,080
Speaker 2: I love It's really cool. I'm surprised Cast never did that.

2056
01:47:18,400 --> 01:47:28,960
Speaker 2: Damn American. I got futuristic. We should do a show

2057
01:47:29,000 --> 01:47:31,960
Speaker 2: one day about how bad some of our takes have

2058
01:47:32,040 --> 01:47:34,920
Speaker 2: aged me included. I'm not you know, I'm just saying

2059
01:47:35,160 --> 01:47:37,120
Speaker 2: some of them. We've said some wild ship and then

2060
01:47:37,720 --> 01:47:41,160
Speaker 2: five six years later, but it might be fun to y'all.

2061
01:47:41,960 --> 01:47:44,320
Speaker 2: What means to y'all I've said some terrible ship. I mean,

2062
01:47:45,320 --> 01:47:54,639
Speaker 2: I mean not as bad as you. Darkness of the week.

2063
01:47:55,240 --> 01:47:57,599
Speaker 2: See what beat On cooked up for? May be careful

2064
01:47:57,640 --> 01:48:02,960
Speaker 2: because I already here this ship might be mad. I'm

2065
01:48:03,200 --> 01:48:08,840
Speaker 2: just kidding already. I love you. Does it sounds here?

2066
01:48:08,880 --> 01:48:13,240
Speaker 2: I don't hear nothing. He looks like a legally blind

2067
01:48:14,479 --> 01:48:17,040
Speaker 2: He legally blind? Is he pointing the wrong way?

2068
01:48:24,960 --> 01:48:26,439
Speaker 3: I know you.

2069
01:48:32,600 --> 01:48:40,479
Speaker 2: Did? He say three? He said three face? First of all,

2070
01:48:40,600 --> 01:48:44,400
Speaker 2: is a dude in the truck? Is he black? Country?

2071
01:48:44,720 --> 01:48:49,479
Speaker 2: That's just country black? Yeah, okay, you ain't blind, mother.

2072
01:48:50,880 --> 01:48:52,960
Speaker 2: He was like this, He was.

2073
01:48:54,520 --> 01:48:55,040
Speaker 5: Loot.

2074
01:48:56,479 --> 01:48:57,479
Speaker 2: That's what took it out.

2075
01:48:58,840 --> 01:49:04,439
Speaker 6: That's what took me up. Why you got it and

2076
01:49:04,479 --> 01:49:07,160
Speaker 6: why you got the sun joint, the sun protected. He

2077
01:49:07,280 --> 01:49:09,360
Speaker 6: got the sun shades like the ones that got the

2078
01:49:09,439 --> 01:49:11,160
Speaker 6: polar like you need.

2079
01:49:13,160 --> 01:49:17,280
Speaker 2: You already fly right. See the whole video was just

2080
01:49:17,840 --> 01:49:21,719
Speaker 2: rag level. You got the solar shades on, bro, you don't.

2081
01:49:21,600 --> 01:49:23,519
Speaker 5: Even need to that's probably how that got do.

2082
01:49:24,200 --> 01:49:27,120
Speaker 2: Like, wait a minute, bro, you got a solar shades?

2083
01:49:28,120 --> 01:49:35,679
Speaker 2: He finalized. He said, you ain't flying like he faced

2084
01:49:35,720 --> 01:49:39,160
Speaker 2: the right way and everything. Why you face the right way? O? Man?

2085
01:49:39,960 --> 01:49:45,360
Speaker 2: I said, oh, this is so wrong. You stupid, just

2086
01:49:45,400 --> 01:49:49,320
Speaker 2: trying to call him up out. Yeah, you're lie is bro.

2087
01:49:50,120 --> 01:49:53,439
Speaker 2: He still gave the still gave the money. Well you

2088
01:49:53,479 --> 01:49:56,519
Speaker 2: can walk, yeah, I'll get it, find out if you

2089
01:49:56,560 --> 01:49:59,880
Speaker 2: get your ass up and come get it. Oh man,

2090
01:50:00,960 --> 01:50:04,519
Speaker 2: oh god, alright, man, Well we're gonna leave it there. Man,

2091
01:50:04,560 --> 01:50:06,280
Speaker 2: we did guys. Next week we got peace