1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: Line from Vaal Hartbiner and the Crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today. The Smally scandal is bigger than we know, 3 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 1: bigger than we understand. That it doesn't matter how much 4 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: people scream and yell about it. We are going to 5 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: be people who should be discussing it, who are discussing 6 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 1: it and should. 7 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 2: Be investigating it. 8 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: There's a problem here, and the problem might be whether 9 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 1: or not our immigration policies, our immigration thoughts, are based 10 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 1: on who is going to be a part of American society. 11 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 2: It is imperative in my view that we do not 12 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 2: take any. 13 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: Group of people and label them as persona. No, I 14 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: don't feel that way about Somali's. I do feel that 15 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: way about Islamists. And if we are going to say 16 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: that somehow it is wrong to look at those coming 17 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: from Islamic countries differently, well no, no, no, no, it's 18 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: it's the only rational course of course. Tony Katz, Tony 19 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: Katz today, good to be with you find everything going 20 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: on over at Tony Katz dot com. Appreciate it if you 21 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: head on over there, subscribe and be a part of it. 22 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: Let's start with the basics. What is this entire scandal 23 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: that is bigger than we know and worse than we think. 24 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: This has to do with theft, just stealing by a 25 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: group of people, either part of that Somali community in Minneapolis, 26 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: Somali themselves or others who saw the COVID money coming 27 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: in and said hey, I got an idea. What they 28 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: did was was they made the claim that they were 29 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: feeding children. There was a group called Feeding our Future. 30 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: There were a couple other groups. We're gonna feed children? 31 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: How many children are you feeding? And will send you 32 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: money to help you do that because you know COVID 33 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:20,519 Speaker 1: has affected everybody. Well, lockdown's affected everybody, and certainly Minnesota, 34 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: a progressive state. Are not so progressive when we talk 35 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: about how you grow a state, but progressive in their politics. 36 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: They were engaged in real shutdowns. How many people are 37 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:37,399 Speaker 1: you feeding? Feeding our future? Oh, eighteen thousand? While you're 38 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: feeding eighteen thousand children a month? That's something no, no, no, 39 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:41,519 Speaker 1: a day a day. 40 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 2: We met today. You're feeding eighteen thousand children every day. Yes, 41 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 2: we are money. Please. It's like Jenny Slate, what show 42 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 2: is that from? I forget? It's not Parks of our creation? 43 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 2: Is it? I forgot? 44 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 1: What money, please, it's so great, and Minnesota said, here 45 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: you go. And when Minnesota started getting an inkling, a whiff, 46 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 1: a little bit of a hint, a little something, a 47 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: little Joe Biden kind of. 48 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 2: Ah, smells like people. When that happened, the. 49 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 1: Good people there who were involved in this theft not 50 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: a grift theft, said, listen very carefully, you approve these 51 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: groups for this funding or we're going to call you racists. 52 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: And the government folk in Minnesota so afraid of being 53 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: called racist, they went along with it. You understand that 54 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: this means that Governor Tim Walls went along with it. 55 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: You mean you have to understand that that there are 56 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: people associated with this, like the Attorney General of Minnesota, 57 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: Keith Elsen, like the Congresswoman Ilano Mahr, who were in 58 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: so way connected. They certainly knew the groups. They were 59 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: there taking photos at least Illhana Mar was, so when 60 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: the investigation takes place, all of those players need to 61 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: be investigated. Stephen Miller called this the possibly the largest 62 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 1: fraud against Americans in. 63 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 2: History, which led to Ilhan. 64 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 1: Omar saying that you know, well that that's that's nice, 65 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: but you know, Stephen Miller, he's just a He's just 66 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: a white nationalist. 67 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 3: The architect of the president's immigration policy, Stephen Miller said 68 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 3: on Thanksgiving Day, he posted, no magic transformation occurs when 69 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 3: failed state's cross borders at scale, migrants and their descendants 70 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 3: recreate the conditions and terrors of the broken homelands. What 71 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 3: do you make of this argument of failure to assimilate 72 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 3: and sort of ruining America? How do you understand this? 73 00:04:59,800 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 2: Mean? 74 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 4: When I think about Stephen Miller and his white supremacist rhetoric, 75 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 4: it reminds me. Yes, it reminds me of the way 76 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 4: the Nazis described Jewish people. 77 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:18,359 Speaker 1: At that moment, Margaret Brennan of CBS News, who hosts 78 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 1: Faced the Nation, should have ended the interview, said. 79 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 2: Thank you, goodbye. 80 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 1: You don't have to get to call Stephen Miller a 81 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 1: white supremacist based on what based on what a recognition 82 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: that you're a bigot, Ilhanimore, you are Jews controlled Congress. 83 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 1: It's all about the Benjamins. That was you, right, that 84 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: was you. 85 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:48,239 Speaker 2: Who did those things? 86 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 1: Now do people come to the United States and recreate. 87 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 2: The horrors they came from? 88 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: So I want to say for the record that I 89 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 1: don't actually believe that part true. 90 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 2: Here is one thing that I do believe if we 91 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 2: look at it honestly, if. 92 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 1: There is not a buy in to how we do things, well, 93 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: what does one expect You're going to go with what 94 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: you know? 95 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 2: That that's a very rational. 96 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: Point of view, which of course brings us to what 97 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: it is that we expect when people are a part 98 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: of the nation. I had shared a a part of 99 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: this last week, and I had created a short out 100 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 1: of a of you follow us on YouTube, YouTube dot 101 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 1: com slash Tony Katz It's gone, It's done, all sorts 102 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: of views about the idea of assimilation. 103 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 2: And you would have thought that I had engaged in the. 104 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: Most barbaric talk the world had ever seen, which is 105 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: not the case. All I was discussing the idea of hyphenization, 106 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: and I was discussing the idea of assimilation. 107 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 2: This is what I said last week. 108 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: If we are to agree that that is true, that 109 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: the American left has no belief in assimilation, and we 110 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: can see this in a myriad of ways. For example, 111 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: the hyphenization of America, what the bloody heck is African American, Mexican, American, Columbian, American, 112 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: Irish American. 113 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 2: There's American, and that's it. 114 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 1: The hyphen is an absolute problem because it creates separation 115 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: as opposed to assimilation. 116 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 2: I believe that that is an accurate statement. 117 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: The hyphen creates separation, not assimilation. And I had put 118 00:07:56,480 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: this out in a post where I said, you can't 119 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: have assimilation to American culture if everyone wants to talk 120 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: about only where they are from, to which I had 121 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: some people who I think aren't thinking clearly, well, what's 122 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 1: American culture? And then someone said, well, Tony doesn't want 123 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: Saint Patrick's Day. 124 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 2: Who doesn't want Saint Patrick's Day? 125 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: Admittedly I don't want green beer, but I love corn, 126 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: beef and cabbage. These things are delightful. I want bars 127 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: to be packed, to be having a very good time. 128 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: What kind of fool would say such a thing Tony 129 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: doesn't want. 130 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:35,599 Speaker 2: Saint Patrick's Day. 131 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: I never said anything like that. I did say that 132 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: hyphens are an issue because they are I added Irish American, 133 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 1: but I could add Jewish American, I can add Mexican American. 134 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 2: All these things keep us from being American. 135 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 1: American involves where you can from and a recognition that. 136 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:02,439 Speaker 2: Where you are. 137 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: This idea, this ideal is better. This place that we 138 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: have created is indeed better. I think that's when we 139 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: talk about assimilation. It isn't about forgetting where you came from. 140 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 1: It's a recognition of where you're at and how fortunate 141 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: you are to be there. 142 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 2: Let's at least be clear it's better here. If it 143 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 2: was really better there, you would have stayed there. 144 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: So when we see people coming to the United States 145 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: who don't think that this is better, they think this 146 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: is bad. They think this place owes them, and they 147 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 1: are proactive in wanting its destruction. I think those are 148 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: people telling us that they don't want to be Americans 149 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: and we should oblige them. I'm saying that they don't 150 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: pass the test. You're like, oh, woh, wah, wah wah, 151 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 1: what tests to be an American? What do you mean 152 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 1: what test to be an American? Do you believe in 153 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: the destruction of the Uni Nited States? How would it 154 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: be possible for us to take in anybody who believes 155 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: in the destruction of the United States. What is clear 156 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: is that I'm not interested in labeling a whole group 157 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: as you're all terrible when there are people who are 158 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: part of this world in Minneapolis, who haven't done anything wrong, 159 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: and so I do have an objection. Now President Trump 160 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: has gone about discussing things, what I have noticed is 161 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: that when we see a specific level of issue with 162 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: not being interested in being part of the American society, 163 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:43,439 Speaker 1: the American fabric, that while we've seen. 164 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 2: It in groups from South America and Central. 165 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: America because of their progressive bona fides and their hatred 166 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: of the United States, their hatred of Western culture, of 167 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 1: their Western civilization, their their hatred that permeates. We see 168 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: this from his life onic societies. The Islamist is not 169 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: compatible with Western civilization. 170 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 2: They're just not. 171 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: They're not compatible with anything in Europe. They're not compatible 172 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: with other Muslims. 173 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:13,439 Speaker 2: They're not. 174 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: We need to be honest about this and clear about this, 175 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 1: and maybe there should be some reticence regarding those nations 176 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: that are Islamic nations. 177 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 2: Well, Tony, you see, now you're painting everybody with. 178 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 1: A broad brush because of their culture, their religion. No, 179 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:33,199 Speaker 1: and that's where the first part of this conversation is 180 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: going to take place. When we talk about Islamists, we're 181 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: not talking about a religion. We're talking about a political system. 182 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 1: And it is incompatible with ours, and we have every 183 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: right to say the answer is no. And I only 184 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,079 Speaker 1: have to look back to the Barbary pirates in order 185 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: to be able to, I believe, make my case. 186 00:11:54,760 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 2: That is about who we take into the nation. Maybe 187 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:08,079 Speaker 2: there is a moment proven that our kindness cannot be extended. 188 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 2: That's a hard thing to say, and I won't lie. 189 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 1: I feel weird saying it because what's the difference between 190 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:19,079 Speaker 1: that and someone says. 191 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 2: Well, really, the people we can't allow into the country 192 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 2: are Jews. 193 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 1: I mean, what is the line there? What is the 194 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: separation point in that? I got asked today. I did 195 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 1: a radio interview with someone and they were discussing how 196 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:40,199 Speaker 1: they what they hear from young people zoomers. 197 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, did we just use the 198 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 2: term zoomer gen Z? What we hear. 199 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: From gen Z is number one, fix the economy and 200 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: number two stop talking about Israel. 201 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 2: What do you think, Tony? 202 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: I was like, well, first yeah, things need to be cheaper, 203 00:12:57,679 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 1: and secondly, I'm a Zionist. 204 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 2: Also, Israel all I want and I'll debate it with anybody. 205 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 1: I don't actually care, but if somebody is more interested 206 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: in how what it's going to cost them for a 207 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 1: gallon of gas as opposed to is rally foreign policy. 208 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 2: I get that. I get that. That makes perfect sense 209 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 2: to me. 210 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 1: I have to stop talking about what's happening from Islamists 211 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: against a society that allows people to allows people to 212 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: live freely. Hell no, no, not at all, not in 213 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: any way, shape or form. I think that we have 214 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 1: to accept the fact that the conversation we're having is 215 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: super heavy. That the people involved in the criminal activity 216 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:44,679 Speaker 1: in Minneapolis, Man, they have to go to jail, and 217 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: if they're not from the United States, if they're not 218 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: American citizens, they have to be deported and their family 219 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: get deported. So be it, that's the crime. You are 220 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: welcomed into the United States with open arms, and you said, 221 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 1: how badly can we blank these people? How can we 222 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: steal from them? How can we take advantage of their generosity? 223 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: And when they notice, we will call them racists so 224 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 1: they don't do. 225 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:11,200 Speaker 2: Anything about it. 226 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: Then we have to investigate all of those elected officials 227 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: who went along with the grift, the theft. 228 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 2: Did they profit off of it, did they profit. 229 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: Monetarily off of it, or do they see a value 230 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: in bankrupting the system. Do they see a value in 231 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: bankrupting the system because they want the system to fail? 232 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 2: I mean, we're getting into like Glenn. 233 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: Beck, Cloward Piven kind of conversations here, But it's true. 234 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 1: I ask point blank of Ilhan o Mar are you 235 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: disgusted by what you saw? And do you believe in investigations? 236 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: No mention of Troup, no mention of Stephen Miller. Do 237 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 1: you believe that people who are in the country on 238 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: a level of permanence but not necessarily citizens yet should 239 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: they be the port And if the answer is anything 240 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: but absolutely, well, then what are we discussing here? Not 241 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: every Somali did something wrong, guys, it's just not true. 242 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: It's just not factual. But larger scale questions have to 243 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: be asked. We should be a nation that welcomes people 244 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: who want to live a better life and be a 245 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: part of it, and by the way, bring the cool 246 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 1: stuff with you. 247 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 2: Love it. 248 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: But when the nation is primarily Islamic, maybe we have 249 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: to ask a different question. 250 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 2: Because the data, whether it's in our own country or 251 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 2: whether it's in Europe, is in and that's rough. 252 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: But if we don't have this rough talk, this rough conversation, 253 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: how are we going to come to a determination and 254 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: do it without losing our souls as Americans. 255 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 2: Let's start here. 256 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: The investigations have to happen, and anybody involved can't win reelection. 257 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: Anybody involved has to go to jail. With the fleecing 258 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: of Americans to the tune of us. Fox News reported 259 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: it possibly eight billion dollars. If we have objection to that, 260 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: can you imagine the objection they're going to give to 261 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 1: everything else. 262 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz. 263 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: We are not so far removed from the horror show 264 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: that took place in Charlotte, the stabbing that took place 265 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: on the light rail. 266 00:16:51,880 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 2: This was how many months ago, four months ago, where 267 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 2: Arena Zarutzka was traveling on the light rail in Charlotte 268 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 2: and she. 269 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: Was stabbed repeatedly by a black man. She's white. And 270 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 1: I bring that up because it was the other way around. 271 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: We'd be told that this was a racial incident and 272 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: a hate crime, and yet no one screams that, just 273 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 1: proving that hate crimes are nothing more than political tools 274 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 1: and not anything anyone actually cares about. 275 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 2: This is not that this is different. 276 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 1: This is a suspect now being charged in the stabbing 277 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 1: on the light rail, in Charlotte five counts, including attempted 278 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 1: first degree murderer, saw it with deadly weapons, serious injury, 279 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: and carrying a concealed weapon. The victim was a man 280 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 1: stab by another man. The man he was stabbed by, well, 281 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 1: that guy has been charged before. He's a native of 282 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 1: Honduras in the US illegally twice removed from the country. Now, 283 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: when that happens, I believe that Mexico owes US one 284 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 1: hundred million dollars what I could have said, And when 285 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 1: that happens, I believe we take twenty two square miles 286 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: of Mexican territory. 287 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 2: We just take it. 288 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:23,880 Speaker 1: We defy them, we say, we bet you your military 289 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 1: can't do a damn thing about. 290 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 2: It, and we just take the land. We move everybody 291 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 2: off of it. You don't live there anymore. We just 292 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:30,919 Speaker 2: take it. 293 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:34,400 Speaker 1: That's the price for allowing someone like that to traverse 294 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 1: your country. Now, if they didn't traverse the country and 295 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,360 Speaker 1: they got it in another way, Mexico didn't do anything wrong. 296 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 1: We're fine. Twice deported. This will lead us to a 297 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:51,880 Speaker 1: story from the New York Times. We're magically over the weekend. 298 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 1: They said, you know, people warned Biden that his soft 299 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: on immigration approach wasn't working, but he didn't care. Where 300 00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 1: was this reporting in twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two, 301 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, twenty twenty four. You wait until December 302 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty five. You know what complicit means. 303 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 2: New York Times. 304 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 1: Hopefully this man will be okay, and this is a 305 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:22,679 Speaker 1: reason for ICE to do their job faster. 306 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 2: I'm Tony Kams. 307 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 5: For had me On. I think, frankly, what we're hearing 308 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 5: is some smoke and mirrors. This idea that you know, 309 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 5: the Secretary of war crimes as I've been calling him 310 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 5: up to these strikes and the revelations of this double 311 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 5: tap are trying to cover for on opsect reasons that 312 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 5: they can't release this video when. 313 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: Numerousy's let's let's stop listening to Alexander Vinman. 314 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 2: So he's not the. 315 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: Secretary of war, he's the Secretary of war crimes because 316 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:57,400 Speaker 1: of taking out these boats in the Caribbean. 317 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 2: That's that is hilarious. 318 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: You're the same guy who was upset with a phone 319 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 1: call to Ukraine that was nothing right. 320 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 2: And what is this that I'm now hearing about Ukraine that. 321 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: Zelenski has not read the piece plan yet. That's what 322 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 1: Trump was saying, that Zelenski hasn't read this thing. How 323 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 1: is that even remotely possible? Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, 324 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 1: good to be with you. I've got to have that 325 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:33,719 Speaker 1: somewhere in my big bunch. 326 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,199 Speaker 2: I don't know how it's possible. 327 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 5: That. 328 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 2: Oh no, here, Oh gosh, I do have it. Hold 329 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 2: on a second, hold on, I say he was at the Kennedy. 330 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 1: Center Honors, which, by the way, they've redone the Kennedy Center. 331 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: Trump did that as well. They were able to rework it. 332 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: They've redone. The money, They've got everybody showing up. 333 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 2: Everybody's happy. I mean, it's it's. 334 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 1: Sylvester Stallone and it's kiss and it's oh sorry, left 335 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 1: I know it upset. 336 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 2: You all right. By the way, I'm outrageously. 337 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 1: Thrilled with this, because if this allows the right to 338 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,719 Speaker 1: understand what culture is and how you connect with it 339 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 1: and how you have to be a participant in the 340 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:24,880 Speaker 1: arts and not hate everything. Good A plus. But this 341 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 1: was this was President Trump. He's there with the First 342 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 1: Lady Milania Trump talking about Zelensky and the peace deal 343 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: and very powerful, Your president, what's the next. 344 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 3: What's your next step in Russia Ukraine talks after last 345 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 3: week's Segochi. 346 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 6: So, we've been speaking to President Putin and we have 347 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 6: been speaking to Ukrainian leaders, including Zelensky, President Zolensky. 348 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 2: And I have to say that I'm a little. 349 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 6: Bit disappointed that President Zelinsky hasn't yet read the proposal 350 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 6: that was as a few hours ago. 351 00:21:58,359 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 2: What the hell? 352 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: Am I the only person who heard that and said, 353 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 1: how is that even possible? He hasn't ready did he 354 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: skim it? Are you telling me the guy hasn't gone 355 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 1: to the bathroom wants and he's like, I'm bored. I 356 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 1: guess I'll read this peace proposal that keeps my people alive? 357 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:23,919 Speaker 2: How is that possible? His people love it, but he 358 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 2: has Russia's fine with it. 359 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 6: Russia's you know, Russia, Russia, I guess. 360 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 2: Would rather have the whole country when you think of it. 361 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 6: But Russia is I believe, fine with it. But I'm 362 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 6: not sure that Zelinski is fine with it. His people 363 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 6: love it, but he hasn't read it. So someday you'll 364 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 6: explain that one to me, Jeff. 365 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,120 Speaker 1: I'm not Jeff, but I can't explain it at all. 366 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 1: There was a follow up to this story. If someone 367 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: I wasn't able to find it's ev you can look 368 00:22:55,640 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 1: for producer landon about what it is that Youians are stealing, 369 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,400 Speaker 1: the amount of aid that's been stolen. I have got 370 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 1: over this many times. Yes, thanks producer land and look 371 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: for that. I've gone over this many times. I have 372 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 1: supported from the beginning sending weapons and sending bullets to Ukraine. 373 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 1: I do not believe you reward Russian aggression. No way. 374 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: I did not support at the time any level of 375 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 1: air assault or no fly zone. I stand by that 376 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: I do not support any troops on the grounds. 377 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 2: I stand by. 378 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: That I support if NATO nations want to be buying 379 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 1: US hardware and placing it in places to keep the 380 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 1: Russians at bay. 381 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 2: Fine with that. 382 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,640 Speaker 1: Russia is the aggressor, Russia is the bad guy, and 383 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: every other story is wrong. It's garbage. It was always garbage. 384 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 1: Tucker's garbage was garbage. The rest of it was nonsense. 385 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 2: Bull Crab said that Zelenski's. 386 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:06,360 Speaker 1: An angel and all the Ukrainian leadership come from on high. 387 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:12,679 Speaker 1: Never once, never, ever, I said on this show, I 388 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: have zero interest in paying for their pensions. I don't 389 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: want to pay for retirements. I want to pay for bullets. 390 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 1: Let the Ukrainians fight for their survival, and let us 391 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 1: not be fools and reward Russian aggression. That's only bad 392 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:31,199 Speaker 1: for us. Let's make sure they've got the tools to 393 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 1: fight this fight. 394 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 2: They might lose, but you could take one of the 395 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:36,640 Speaker 2: bastards with. 396 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 1: You, which I think is a kind of a lost 397 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: art philosophy. I think it's very important and I'm willing 398 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: to defend it. I support them trying to survive. I 399 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 1: do not support providing any of the people. I don't 400 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 1: support providing them with vacations or retirements or anything else. 401 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 1: If they're stealing billions of dollars and we've got a 402 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: provable billions of dollars stolen, then you can get me. 403 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,640 Speaker 2: You can absolutely get me. 404 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: To say, all right, we've done everything we can here. 405 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: The problem is gonna be well, Tony, a lot of 406 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: people are still gonna die. Part of the problem that 407 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: we have, and I think this is where, of course, 408 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 1: part of the disgust is they steal, and I'm told 409 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: I have to be the good guy they steal, and 410 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: I have to continue to be supportive because some money 411 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 1: does make it needs, does make it to where it 412 00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 1: needs it's needed. 413 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,199 Speaker 2: We did buy another bullet, or we did help some kid. 414 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 1: So therefore I have to continue to be the good guy, 415 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 1: and they can steal and nothing's gonna happen. Going back 416 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: to a story about a month ago at Politico, Ukrainian 417 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:20,919 Speaker 1: anti corruption agencies revealing Monday, someone Zelenski's close associates allegedly 418 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 1: involved in a plot to skim about one hundred million 419 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,719 Speaker 1: dollars from the Ukrainian energy sector. Now, that's not it 420 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 1: and its totality their producer land. Now, but there's an example. 421 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 2: I'm not wrong when I say this is the thing 422 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 2: that bothers Americans. 423 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 1: We have to live by a standard that nobody else 424 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:52,160 Speaker 1: has to live by. And when they flaunt every bit 425 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:58,880 Speaker 1: of normalcy and decency. 426 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 2: Nothing ever happens to them. No one goes to jail. 427 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 2: We just have to keep spending. That's an exhausting proposition 428 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 2: I put forth to you. 429 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:15,400 Speaker 1: That is also where people get the very rational understanding 430 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,919 Speaker 1: of you know, these people are not as good. 431 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 2: As us, they're less then, and we're told that's awful 432 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 2: and horrible and terrible. 433 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 1: You are fighting for your survival we're helping you survive, 434 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 1: and you take our money, you steal from US. 435 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 2: Ukrainians. 436 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: The Somalian situation in Minneapolis, it's the same level of 437 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:53,160 Speaker 1: disgust and anger. I I don't know exactly how angered 438 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 1: President Trump is that he hasn't been able to achieve 439 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 1: a piece here, Whether he's angry at Zelenski or not 440 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: just giving up all the lands and in the dunbast 441 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 1: Denet's Garia, La Hanska, Shaporzia, et cetera. 442 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 2: All the way down to Crimea. 443 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,879 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's really angry at the Russians. 444 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,120 Speaker 1: What are you doing with all this killing your your 445 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 1: own people are dying? Are you really this blanking stupid? 446 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 1: Because I mean that, of course, as we've discussed, is 447 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,199 Speaker 1: Trump's philosophy ten thousand percent. 448 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 2: The war doesn't make any sense to him. 449 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 1: Why in the world would you have a war and 450 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: kill each other when you can make some money and 451 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 1: enjoy yourself. 452 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 2: The whole thing is such anathema to him. But remember, Trump. 453 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: Has no It's one of the ways I know that 454 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: Trump is not only not a warmonger. Trump doesn't have 455 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 1: any desire for empire. It's not necessary. We have what 456 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 1: we have, and we make money at what we have. 457 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 1: Now we can make more money by getting Greenland. Well, 458 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: let's work out a grill for Greenland. Let's work out 459 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 1: a deal. Not hey, let's send our warships not to 460 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 1: the Caribbean to deal with Venezuela, but let's send it 461 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 1: to Greenland. 462 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 2: Let the Russian see what they're gonna do. By the 463 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 2: way to Denmark. This is our ours. Now that didn't happen. 464 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 2: What deal could be made? Why? 465 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 1: Because it better protects America. That I understand about the guy, 466 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 1: war is just it. It strikes him as the most 467 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 1: peculiar thing because he doesn't really have any Would it 468 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 1: be weird if I said I don't think he has 469 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 1: any tribalism about him. America first might be as much 470 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 1: as he goes, but it doesn't involve any level of conquest. 471 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: It should be. It should be much more about trade 472 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 1: and deals and you know, fair and being able to 473 00:29:54,400 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 1: use his leverage to get fair, et cetera. What moment 474 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 1: does he say, you know what I tried with you people, 475 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 1: This is on you. 476 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 2: We're out. 477 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: If NATO wants to keep buying and your bonds, keep 478 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 1: buying our hardware we'll keep selling it to him. We're 479 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 1: making great money. We're done here, America. I've done everything 480 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 1: I can. These two schmucks they don't want peace. This 481 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 1: guy won't stop fighting. This guy hasn't even read a 482 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 1: piece deal. 483 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 2: I'm out best of luck. 484 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: That's a bad, bad place. But you know you could 485 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 1: see him going there, right, you can see him doing it. 486 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: I gave it everything I can. Yeah, you could argue 487 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 1: it the other way. Tony's ego requires him to get 488 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 1: this done so he can say he can get it done. Remember, 489 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 1: there are the two rules of trump Ism coined right 490 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 1: here by yours truly. The first rule of trump Ism 491 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 1: is that Trump wins. The second rule of trump Ism 492 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 1: is that a deal can always be made as long 493 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 1: as it here is to the first rule of trump Ism. 494 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 2: So we're not done with this yet. But Zelenski hasn't 495 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 2: read it. I mean, that's just that might be the 496 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 2: craziest thing I've ever heard. 497 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 1: And I've heard Sonny Hosten speak twice. 498 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz. 499 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 1: This is Tony Katz today, So this is not the 500 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 1: first time I've seen this story, and it's. 501 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 2: Something I think you should keep an eye on. 502 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 1: There is a report I shouldn't say. I'll call it reporting, 503 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 1: not a report that we are about to see from 504 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 1: the House Republicans, a whole bunch of retirements. Tony Katz 505 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 1: Tony Kats Today, Great to be here, Good be with you. 506 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 1: Find everything on Tony kats dot com. We touched on 507 00:31:52,560 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 1: this lightly last week where the morale amongst how Republicans 508 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 1: not great because Trump doesn't help them. Trump's in the 509 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 1: Trump business. 510 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 2: Oh, I think we're going to find that Trump is 511 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 2: not going to you know, we are in a place 512 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 2: where we could find that Trump is going to leave 513 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 2: the RNC in the same shape that Obama left the DNC. 514 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 1: And that's not good shape. That is not good shape. 515 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 1: Who's going to have the lists, who's going to have 516 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 1: the power? Everything else? It is clear to me that 517 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 1: Trump is interested in a level of dynasty for the kids, etc. 518 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 1: I knew this was coming from word go. I gotta 519 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 1: deal with things as I deal with them. Obama did it. 520 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 1: Obama tried to shape the Democratic Party in his image. 521 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: He ruined them financially, then never left and then what 522 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 1: cost them the White House in twenty twenty four, him 523 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 1: and Nancy Pelosi. You'll notice that There hasn't been much 524 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 1: ceremony as of yet for Pelosi leaving. Oh, they'll do 525 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 1: a dog and pony and that'll be yet and they'll 526 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: be glad she's gone. 527 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 2: But Republicans, according to multiple sources, are not pleased. 528 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 1: They are not happy with the amount of backup they're 529 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 1: getting in other things. Is it possible that there are 530 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 1: twenty Republicans. 531 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 2: Saying I don't need this anymore. 532 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: There's a private sector job for four hundred and twenty 533 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 1: thousand a year. 534 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 2: Coming my way. 535 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 1: Sounds good, Ok, you know what, it's time for me 536 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 1: to go write my book. 537 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 2: Twenty How does that play out for a midterm? 538 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 1: My gut reaction not well, there is a fair amount 539 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 1: working against the Republicans going into these midterms. 540 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 2: And more than. 541 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 1: Anything, Trump needs an economic turnaround for this to get better. 542 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 1: He needs inflation down, He needs dollars flowing in. He 543 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,759 Speaker 1: needs the price of milk and meat to go down. 544 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,359 Speaker 2: He needs to see some. 545 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 1: Level of insurance betterment in pricing. All I know is 546 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:29,919 Speaker 1: my main radio employer. That's where I get my insurance through. 547 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 1: And it's open enrollment. And there was an email today 548 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,720 Speaker 1: that basically said, hey, everybody we know that you're quite 549 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 1: literally having heart attacks over the new premiums. But life sucks, 550 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 1: and it wasn't that mean, But it's exactly what they 551 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 1: were saying. It's brutal, it's brutalizing. This is what Americans 552 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:54,479 Speaker 1: are dealing with, higher costs in everything now. The truth 553 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 1: is it's not everything, but it's still enough things to. 554 00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 2: Make people say the costs are too high. 555 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:04,360 Speaker 1: And so that is job one in trying to win reelection, 556 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 1: keep the Republicans in the House and the Senate for 557 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 1: the midterms. 558 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,880 Speaker 2: The retirements, if they come, just make it all that 559 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 2: more difficult. But I think the question is why the retirements. 560 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:25,400 Speaker 1: It's a worthy conversation, and I question how much of 561 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,359 Speaker 1: it has to do with Trump or something else. 562 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz