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Speaker 1: Live from vall Hartbiner and the Crossroads of America.

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Speaker 2: It's Tony Katz today.

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Speaker 1: I think with the sale of F thirty five strike

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Speaker 1: Fighter jets to Saudi Arabia from the United States, the

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Speaker 1: meeting that took place yesterday in the White House with

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Speaker 1: President Trump and Mohammed Ben Salomon, the Crown Prince, and

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Speaker 1: more happening today, I think there is a very acceptable

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Speaker 1: question out there as to what are we selling them,

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Speaker 1: but maybe more importantly, should we be selling to Saudi Arabia.

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Speaker 2: I'm not over what happened on September eleventh. That's me speaking.

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Speaker 1: I'm not speaking for you. I'm speaking for myself. Tony Katz,

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Speaker 1: Tony Kats today, Good to be with you. Major Mike

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Speaker 1: Lyons joins me right now. United States Army major, retired

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Speaker 1: military analyst, does a lot of work with West Point

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Speaker 1: and I live in the real world, and I was

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Speaker 1: explaining this yesterday on the show that there are a

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Speaker 1: lot of actors I don't want to work with, but

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Speaker 1: that doesn't mean you don't work with them. And I

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Speaker 1: actually think that the time for retribution regarding September eleventh

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Speaker 1: has long passed, and it wasn't done as I see

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Speaker 1: it properly then, But I'm here now and Saudi Arabia

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Speaker 1: as ally in agreement on the Abraham Accords and pushing

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Speaker 1: Iran and the Iranian regime further and further into disbanding

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Speaker 1: and nothingness and falling away, creating a better Ran and

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Speaker 1: a better future for the Middle East. That's what's on

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Speaker 1: the table. But let's start where we start these F

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Speaker 1: thirty five's.

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Speaker 2: What can you tell us about the.

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Speaker 1: Major lions and how do we feel about them going

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Speaker 1: to Saudi Arabia.

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Speaker 3: Well, Tony, I think clearly we have to always remember

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Speaker 3: what happened on September eleventh and go from there.

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Speaker 4: But this is a different Saudi Arabia.

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Speaker 3: This is a different country right now with a different leader,

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Speaker 3: and now's the time to strike this deal with Saudi

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Speaker 3: Arabia in order to gain this additional leverage over Iran

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Speaker 3: and to really start to set forward a new path

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Speaker 3: for the Middle East. So what we know about the deal,

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Speaker 3: It looks like Saudi Arabia has requested forty eight F

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Speaker 3: thirty five's to go along with three hundred main battle

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Speaker 3: tanks Abram's battle tank.

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Speaker 4: So it's not only airpower, it's going to be ground power.

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Speaker 3: This is Trump leverage at play, visible leverage right out there,

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Speaker 3: aligning with a country that had not had this level

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Speaker 3: of firepower before. Let's talk about the F thirty five

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Speaker 3: real quick. We'll talk more about it. But this is

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Speaker 3: not just a plane, This is an ecosystem and this

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Speaker 3: is a next generation fighter that will definitely took the

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Speaker 3: power balance in the Middle East towards Saudi Arabia.

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Speaker 1: You know, the F thirty five has been a big

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Speaker 1: part of conversation because not only is it this incredible.

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Speaker 2: Bit of hardware, this was built with a lot of NATO.

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Speaker 1: Partners at play, including Turkey, and then Turkey turned around

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Speaker 1: and purchased the SU four hundred missile defense system, which

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Speaker 1: is a Russian defense system which bills itself as an

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Speaker 1: F thirty five killer. And this is a real problem.

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Speaker 1: But keeping it on Saudi Arabia, just quickly, you brought

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Speaker 1: up the Abrams tanks. Saudi Arabia can't roll tanks into

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Speaker 2: For what purpose do they need Abrams tanks?

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Speaker 3: Well, I think they're always concerned about their birdies at

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Speaker 3: rock perhaps in the southern portion with the Yemen there,

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Speaker 3: but they project power. There's no question that three hundred

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Speaker 3: Abrams tanks, it's about a division's worth of that kind

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Speaker 3: of hardware would make Cut Arabia virtually inoculous to any

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Speaker 3: kind of attack that would come on the ground. They

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Speaker 3: have a big playground, they have a big place in

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Speaker 3: sandbox out there to train and practice on those. So

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Speaker 3: they want to get that because it's the most advanced

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Speaker 3: land based projection of power that's that's in the world

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Speaker 3: right now. There's nothing in the world that can defeat

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Speaker 4: So I like the deal.

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Speaker 3: I like the fact that American hardware will go towards

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Speaker 3: that and so and what's going to provide is interoperaate ability.

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Speaker 3: So should it have And we never thought we'd have

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Speaker 4: So I think I'm crazy about this deal. I think

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Speaker 4: it's a great thing.

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Speaker 1: Talking to Major Mike Lyons, retired to the United States

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Speaker 1: Army military analyst, You're crazy about the deal.

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Speaker 2: So you're a yes, but a lot of.

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Speaker 1: People are asking should we be selling jets to Saudi Arabia.

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Speaker 1: You started by saying, this is a different Saudi Arabia.

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Speaker 2: Walk me through your thinking.

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Speaker 3: Well, we're selling fighter jets obviously, but the interoperability of

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Speaker 3: these jets are just more than that.

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Speaker 4: As they fly, they collect data.

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Speaker 3: They can provide data to us, to the United States

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Speaker 3: as we fly in that region as well. They're meshed

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Speaker 3: in communications networks, and I think that they'll provide a

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Speaker 3: moving intel post that we're always looking for looking for

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Speaker 3: on the ground, let's say, and that we've had to

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Speaker 3: that again they will be used as a deterrent and leverage.

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Speaker 4: We'll go back to Trump.

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Speaker 3: It's all about leverage with him, and in this case,

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Speaker 3: it's showing that leverage over the iraniance. Iron does not

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Speaker 3: have a partner that's going to provide this level of

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Speaker 3: military hardware to them. That goes against it. So from

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Speaker 3: a way to preserve the peace and to project power

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Speaker 3: in the Middle East, there's no better platforms than these

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Speaker 3: two on the ground than the air.

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Speaker 1: You talk about projecting power and peace. This move because

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Speaker 1: a lot of this. You know, hey, you were helpful

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Speaker 1: with some things regarding Iran. Of course Saudi Arabia wants

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Speaker 1: I ran off the board there. They want to be

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Speaker 1: the hegemonic power in the area. Trump saying, we can

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Speaker 1: the Abraham Accords.

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Speaker 2: We need to change fundamentally.

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Speaker 1: And then they had a little bit of a back

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Speaker 1: where Mohammed bin Saman said, we need a two state

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Speaker 1: it being a two state solution and getting some of

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Speaker 1: these other nations involved in the rebuild of Gaza doesn't

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Speaker 1: mean a two state solution in the slightest. But this

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Speaker 1: is all in a larger sense about Trump realigning the

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Speaker 1: Middle East. It starts with the Abraham Accords and it's

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Speaker 3: Well, the realignment goal is more towards economic and economic

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Speaker 3: They want they want to live in peace and prosperity.

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Speaker 3: So that's that's this new Middle East that that the

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Speaker 3: Trump administration has carved out right now, and it's it's

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Speaker 3: moving down that path. And sure there's risks sending military

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Speaker 3: software side of it, because again Saudi Arabia now will

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Speaker 3: pick up Intel that perhaps that they wouldn't have before

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Speaker 3: because they don't have that capability. The F thirty five

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Speaker 3: as it's flying through the skies. Uh And and again

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Speaker 3: it comes to this in the leader's perspective. But given

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Speaker 3: the relationship that Trump is established with with NBS, and

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Speaker 3: given where Saudi Arabia is right now, this is the

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Speaker 3: time to strike when the fire's hot.

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Speaker 1: You know this, You brought up Syria, and it's weird this.

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Speaker 1: This is a guy who's a terrorist. I mean, America

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Speaker 1: he's visiting the White House. And yet this has been

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Speaker 1: greeted with a great amount of applause. And so this

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Speaker 1: idea of realigning the Middle East, you know, when people

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Speaker 1: are upset with this is Saudi Arabia. This is responsible

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Speaker 1: for September eleventh, This is responsible for the murder of

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Speaker 1: Jamal Kashogi. And I'm not saying no to any of

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Speaker 1: those things. It is about dealing with the world as

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Speaker 1: it is, not as you may want it to be.

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Speaker 1: And President Trump, I would argue, does that.

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Speaker 2: Very very well.

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Speaker 1: The reception that the new Syrian leadership has gotten, what

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Speaker 4: I think it's been seen positive.

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Speaker 3: But you've described real politique exactly how it is. And

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Speaker 3: that's the United States, and this administration looks at the

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Speaker 3: They want to tell other countries how they can talk

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Speaker 4: And where it is.

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Speaker 3: So what do we want? Do we want the Russians

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Speaker 3: go after them when they crossed the multiple red lines

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Speaker 3: with chemical weapons. So this is this is realigning the

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Speaker 3: over control. Let's say that the umbrella for control, but

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Speaker 3: returning power to the people in the legion, as to

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Speaker 1: analysts and and with Trump, as in so many things,

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Speaker 1: it is about the dollars, and this investment into into

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Speaker 1: Gaza is about a return, and it is about a

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Speaker 1: guarantee in some levels of safety. First off, you have

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Speaker 1: trade partners, you're you're not likely to attack them. That's

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Speaker 1: very Milton Friedman and it's in its concept, but it's

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Speaker 1: also highly accurate.

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Speaker 2: I would argue.

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Speaker 1: High would would I would assume agree with that.

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Speaker 2: Maybe I've misread the man.

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Speaker 1: But the follow up here is who are we dealing

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Speaker 1: with still as the enemies? And this is of course Iran.

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Speaker 1: You take out Naton's, you take out Isfahan, you take

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Speaker 1: out four Doah, these nuclear facilities. You've engaged massive sanctions

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Speaker 1: the Straits of Hormuz that was Marshall Islands flagged.

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Speaker 2: We still think of Iran as the threat in the region.

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Speaker 3: Well, we do from their capability perspective and their level

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Speaker 3: And you know what's happened to Iran in the past

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Speaker 1: Major Mike Lyons, retired Nited States Army military analyst, I

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Speaker 1: appreciate you being with us. More to come. I'm Tony Katz.

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Speaker 1: This is Tony Kats today. So I says, been all

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Speaker 2: We're going into New York.

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Speaker 5: But in New York City. I plan on being in

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Speaker 2: Shut it down. So we're going to becoming New York City.

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Speaker 5: We're already there now, I mean teams are there now,

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Speaker 1: Every day with that an well, anybody who's a sanctuary

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Speaker 2: Tony Katz, Tony Katz.

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Speaker 1: Today, good to be with You find everything at tonycats

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Speaker 1: Operations going to go? Where else do we see these

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Speaker 1: This is still.

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Speaker 2: Going on and rightfully so.

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Speaker 1: And what is rightfully so is that it is what

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Speaker 1: The question is why not? Why do you feel like

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Speaker 1: We all agree the politician recognizes that there are other

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Speaker 2: Like Independence, who vote for them. Not everybody is this.

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Speaker 2: This is Tony Katz Today.

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Speaker 1: There's an expression that is off to use depending on

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Speaker 1: where you're from. And that expression is when hell freeze

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Speaker 1: Tony Katz Today, Good to be with you. Find everything

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Speaker 1: at Tony Katz dot com. Well, here's the story. Members

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Speaker 1: congressional stock trading.

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Speaker 2: My god, okay, it's happening.

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Speaker 1: Everybody, say, what's a procedure.

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Speaker 2: What's going on?

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Speaker 1: Holy crap, I am freaking out, you know as well

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Speaker 1: as I do that congressional stock trading. I mean, this

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Speaker 1: is how Nancy Pelosi made all her money.

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Speaker 2: You know, she was insider trading. Everybody does.

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Speaker 1: She was beaten, the doubt, beaten, this one beaten that

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Speaker 2: The whole thing. Oh sure, we all saw it. We've

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Speaker 1: They're allowed to utilize the information they get from private

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Speaker 2: And we've all said this is gross.

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Speaker 1: And I'm watching this, this thing take place where I

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Speaker 1: And they were very clear, not only is this going

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Speaker 2: To the idea that this is only gonna get talked about.

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Speaker 1: We're bringing the vote. This isn't just something we're talking about.

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Speaker 6: Terrific talented, committed colleagues who are united in our belief

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Speaker 6: Everybody here knows why this is important. Right when members

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Speaker 6: need for this to happen and how we can get

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Speaker 6: it done. But make a mistake, if this is not

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Speaker 6: a step in the right direction but a delaying tactic,

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Speaker 6: then other options will be on the table for how

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Speaker 6: to get at this bill to the floor.

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Speaker 2: So good.

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Speaker 1: It's weird when you can find a moment we can

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Speaker 1: all agree with, and I think we all.

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Speaker 2: Agree with this.

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Speaker 1: That it is it is not acceptable, and it is

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Speaker 1: just a one of those things. I often talk about

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Speaker 1: this with police, and I talk about the fact that

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Speaker 1: I think that one of the biggest problems we have

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Speaker 1: with local policing is that they create an adversarial relationship.

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Speaker 2: With the community they police. Give an example, if you.

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Speaker 1: Hide behind the billboard, right, I'm thinking like old timey

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Speaker 1: movie style, But if you're hiding in the median looking

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Speaker 1: for people speeding, I think that creates an adversarial relationship. Well,

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Speaker 1: how are they supposed to find people who are speeding, Well,

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Speaker 1: they're not supposed to hide.

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Speaker 2: And this has a part too.

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Speaker 1: Why is it the police vehicles look like every other

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Speaker 1: vehicle and why do they have such low profile lights

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Speaker 1: and you can barely see the signage on them. Police

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Speaker 1: vehicles should be in neon, green and orange. They should

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Speaker 1: be easy to identify. Otherwise, It's clear that the city,

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Speaker 1: the town, the municipality is trying to catch the people.

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Speaker 1: They're being sneaky and duplicitous, and it creates it in

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Speaker 1: the head of this, my gosh, I can't trust these people,

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Speaker 1: so it creates the adversarial relationship. They're always after it,

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Speaker 1: They're always behind the corner look out.

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Speaker 2: That's valueless. I think that that's valueless.

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Speaker 1: And the idea putting an end to this kind of

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Speaker 1: awful thing that members of Congress can do is that

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Speaker 1: it's simply unfair. And you say to me, Tony, what's

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Speaker 1: fairness have to do with it? Well, in this case everything.

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Speaker 1: I don't think fairness has anything to do with politics.

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Speaker 2: But we're not talking about politics here.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about one group of people having an advantage

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Speaker 1: that other people don't have.

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Speaker 2: And if we did it, we'd go to jail. But

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Speaker 2: when they do it, it's fine. Nope, that's not the

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Speaker 2: American way, kitten, not at all.

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Speaker 1: So the idea that we can find something by partisan

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Speaker 1: on this on, I mean, flabbergas.

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Speaker 2: Gets a little bit of good news in a.

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Speaker 1: Sea of just total crap that's out there. This is something.

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Speaker 1: So they had the hearing about this, and I wanted

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Speaker 1: to bring it to you. I get that other hosts

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Speaker 1: don't do it this way. I can appreciate that. I

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Speaker 1: just think this stuff is outrageously important that we hear

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Speaker 1: what it is that these members have to say about

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Speaker 1: these hearings. So I will share it with you. I

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Speaker 1: will bring it to you. I have a lot to

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Speaker 1: get to, but could we actually see this happen? Because

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Speaker 1: I'm all in the only other thing I'm seeing starting

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Speaker 1: to see some people get all sorts of excited about

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Speaker 1: and work in a bipartisan manner is the idea that

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Speaker 1: stolen valor is an eton. This has to do with

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Speaker 1: Representative Corey Mills, but it has to do also with

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Speaker 1: Senator Richard Blumenthal. And if it doesn't, well, then it's

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Speaker 1: political and it's gross and I don't want any part

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Speaker 1: of it. Are we not censuring Delegate Stacy Plaskett for

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Speaker 1: texting with Jeffrey Epstein during a hearing because you don't

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Speaker 1: want Democrats to then go after Representative Corey Mills because

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Speaker 1: he is accused of stolen valor claims of service, or

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Speaker 1: of medals or of commendations.

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Speaker 2: That he never got.

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Speaker 1: And so therefore we don't center somebody who clearly deserves

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Speaker 1: it like Plaskett, who's a terrible person. Don't let your

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Speaker 1: daughters grow up to be like Stacy Plaskett texting with

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Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein in twenty nineteen during a hearing involving Michael

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Speaker 1: Cohen about Donald Trump. Everybody knew who this guy was

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Speaker 1: a pedophile and engaged with trafficking underage girls.

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Speaker 2: They knew the stories. Would you want to be connected

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Speaker 2: to this guy?

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Speaker 1: And here she is engaged in texting with him, and

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Speaker 1: the defense from Democrats like Jamie Raskin, the defense for

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Speaker 1: her is well, he was a constituent, he had a

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Speaker 1: house in the US Virgin Islands. He wasn't a constituent.

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Speaker 1: Good gosh, that's gross, that's so gross. But they'll defend anything,

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Speaker 1: and that's just it. So now, the word on the

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Speaker 1: street is Republicans didn't engage completing the censure because it

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Speaker 1: would have meant Democrats would have pushed for the center

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Speaker 1: of Representative Corey Mills, and so they wanted to protect Mills. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: this is all insane. This is the stuff we don't want.

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Speaker 1: I'm starting to hear rumblings a lot of members of

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Speaker 1: the House, Ana Paulinea Luna and Cat Camick, Nancy Mace,

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Speaker 1: a lot of disgusted people out there. Well, disgusted people.

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Speaker 2: Can make noise.

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Speaker 1: But if you're not going to also deal with Democrats

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Speaker 1: involved with this, people who lied about their service, like

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Speaker 1: Tim Walls, like Richard Blumenthal who lied about Vietnam service,

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Speaker 1: well then we're nuts. That's not gonna work. You got

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Speaker 1: to come together in certain levels of or do we

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Speaker 1: utilize the term common cause or is that somehow inappropriate.

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Speaker 1: I have a feeling it's inappropriate. But on stock trading,

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Speaker 1: it's totally appropriate. It's totally approp. It's also totally appropriate

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Speaker 1: to go after people who are engaged in stolen valor

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Speaker 1: or lying about service. Ten thousand percent totally appropriate. This

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Speaker 1: is a good move. I am excited about this, and

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Speaker 1: if we can put an end to this that's fantastic,

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Speaker 1: an end to members of Congress getting a better deal

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Speaker 1: than the people they represent all day. I'm Tony Katz.

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Speaker 7: Two Democrat Senators Elizabeth warn and Congressman Robert de Garcia.

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Speaker 7: They've introduced a bill targeting Trump's ballroom. It's called the

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Speaker 7: Stop Ballroom Bribery Act, and they want to restrict private

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Speaker 7: donations that are funding the construction. You know, Barron Trump

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Speaker 7: just can't win anything, Kenny, this is just stupid.

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Speaker 8: I mean, look, the Democrats have lost their minds. They've

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Speaker 8: lost the plot. Instead of being focused on affordability, instead

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Speaker 8: of being focused on young people in America being able

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Speaker 8: to buy homes, getting making it cheaper for homes to

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Speaker 8: be constructed, making it cheaper to acquire the raw materials

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Speaker 8: to build these homes, they're focused on stupidity.

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Speaker 2: Like this Byron Donalds is not wrong.

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Speaker 1: If you're opposed to a ballroom, you're not focused properly.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: I do believe you could do two things at once,

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Speaker 1: but neither one of those things should be involving opposing

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Speaker 1: a ballroom. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to be

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Speaker 1: with You find everything at Tony Katz dot com.

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Speaker 2: Good to be here, appreciate you being here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was on there Byron Donalds was on there

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Speaker 1: with it was Steve Varney over there at Fox Business.

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Speaker 1: He's having this conversation and the representative from Florida who

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Speaker 1: is running for governor, he goes a step further.

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Speaker 8: This is why I've been saying for a while it's

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Speaker 8: time for the Senate filibuster to end. These people are

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Speaker 8: not serious. They're focused on politics. The issue that was

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Speaker 8: played earlier about air traffic controllers where they would be

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Speaker 8: paid during shutdowns. The reason why it's even happening to

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Speaker 8: having to be considered is because of Democrat obstruction, because

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Speaker 8: they are obsessed with Donald Trump as opposed to doing

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Speaker 8: their job on behalf of the people of the United

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Speaker 8: States of America.

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Speaker 2: So that's where all this stuff comes from. It's ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: The obsession part is real, and I think it is

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Speaker 1: imperative for us to note that this conversation of TDS

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Speaker 1: Trump derangement syndrome never has a term been more accurately,

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Speaker 1: accurately stated, and definitively proven. That's the part, and that's

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Speaker 1: why I see you shaking your head in your car

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Speaker 1: in agreement.

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Speaker 2: Is that true. It's not that the term is so apropos.

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Speaker 1: These people are nuts, they're deranged. They have Trump arrangement syndrome.

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Speaker 1: Everyone goes ah Trump derangement syndrome. It's that day after day,

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Speaker 1: week after week, month after month, year after year, they

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Speaker 1: prove it, and you start looking around and you say,

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Speaker 1: my gosh, this isn't just true of members of the House.

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Speaker 1: This isn't just true of members of the Senate. The

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Speaker 1: Stop Ballroom Bribery Act because the argument is is that

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Speaker 1: the ballroom is being paid for by private funds. See first,

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Speaker 1: how dare the taxpayers pay for his ballroom? Well, the

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Speaker 1: taxpayer pays for all sorts of things that happen at

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Speaker 1: the White House. Lots of repairs, renovations, changes have been

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Speaker 1: made to the White House over the years, and there's

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Speaker 1: been always talk, or I should say always, there has

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Speaker 1: been talk from repeated administrations about needing space to have

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Speaker 1: formal events. They don't have it at the White House. Now,

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Speaker 1: you could argue that's part of its charm. You could

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Speaker 1: also argue, maybe that doesn't have to be our charm

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Speaker 1: going forward.

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Speaker 2: Maybe we can have a different and right people can

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Speaker 2: have a.

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Speaker 1: Good hearted debate about the thing the president wanted to make.

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Speaker 2: This change is not a big deal. It just isn't.

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Speaker 1: And to then say, well, I can't believe the taxpayer

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Speaker 1: is going to pay for this. Well, the taxpayer isn't

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Speaker 1: paying for this, it's private funds. Oh so it's a bribe.

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Speaker 1: Oh good lord, track every dollar unquestionably true. Then take

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Speaker 1: a look at whatever happens and say who donated and

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Speaker 1: then got some level of benefit.

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Speaker 2: If you want to make that claim, you can, you

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Speaker 2: just have to back it up.

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Speaker 1: But if your opposition is a ballroom and look, he's

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Speaker 1: destroying the East wing like he destroyed the country. Trump

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Speaker 1: de rangements in him, Oh absolutely, And everyone sees just

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Speaker 1: how messed up these people are and sees what they

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Speaker 1: don't focus on and what they do. But when you

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Speaker 1: realize that, in so many ways they prove it. They

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Speaker 1: show you how real it is. That's the part that's amazing.

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Speaker 1: It's not deniable anymore. It is pure derangement. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: matter what he does. If he said good morning, everybody,

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Speaker 1: people will be like, well, it's actually nine forty five,

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Speaker 1: is that really morning? He doesn't even know what morning is.

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Speaker 2: See, he's delusion. Oh my god, his brain can't take it.

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Speaker 2: He's falling apart twenty fifth Amendment, and they they lose

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Speaker 2: their heads.

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Speaker 1: But this is the first I've really heard a member

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Speaker 1: of Congress say, because they're all deranged and deluded and

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Speaker 1: nonsensical in their thoughts, get rid of the filibuster.

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Speaker 7: It's worrying that if you get rid of the filibuster,

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Speaker 7: you're out of Puerto Rico becoming a state.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that could happen.

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Speaker 8: What I'm what I'm what I'm What I'm more concerned

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Speaker 8: about right now is we can't building homes as far

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Speaker 8: too expensive. Our energy systems is far too expensive because

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Speaker 8: of crazy subsidies that.

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Speaker 2: Don't that do not work.

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Speaker 8: We have an immigration of visa problem in the United States.

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Speaker 2: That is in thorough need of overhauled.

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Speaker 8: It prioritizes Americans and American workers, not the way it

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Speaker 8: works today.

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Speaker 2: So if the.

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Speaker 8: Choice is getting all that stuff done for the American

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Speaker 8: people versus the rhetoric of the Democrats might make DC estate,

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Speaker 8: I'm going to choose the American people. If we pass

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Speaker 8: great policy in Washington, the American people will see that

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Speaker 8: and they will vote responsibly and accordingly.

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Speaker 2: And that's how I view it. It's a worthy argument.

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Speaker 2: It's an aspirational argument. I don't know if everyone's going

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Speaker 2: to buy it.

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Speaker 1: But if you want to tackle the issue of the

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Speaker 1: cost of a home by saying, how are we regulating

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Speaker 1: these prices into heights that make it unaffordable and how

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Speaker 1: do we bring it down, well, I'm happy to have

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Speaker 1: that conversation.

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Speaker 2: I think that's a worthy conversation.

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Speaker 1: But you also sometimes might have to move if you

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