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Speaker 1: Debtit hip Hop Man, the first recorded content of twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty six. You know what I'm saying, everybody had their

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Speaker 1: little holiday time off. We go year round, so you know,

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Speaker 1: DETA hip Hop, but for ourselves and our family, you

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, So we definitely needed that time

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Speaker 1: Top one hundred hip Hop Lists or Debt of hip

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Speaker 1: Hop officially ranked top to bottom. We're gonna have behind

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Speaker 1: the scenes, We're gonna have content. We're gonna have a

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Speaker 1: because that will be dropping soon. The date is tbd,

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Speaker 1: figure that out, we're gonna have the whole promo. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna roll it out. We're gonna make it very beautiful

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Speaker 1: and exceptional and as big as in the needed to be,

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Speaker 1: because what what are we sixteen fifteen years in this year?

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Speaker 1: So look, so you know, we definitely had to do it.

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Speaker 1: Now the one caveat is this. I saw when we

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Speaker 1: mentioned this on our last live of the year, people

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Speaker 1: were questioning there are gonna be no repeat albums. So

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Speaker 1: we narrowed it down so that way we have more

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Speaker 1: artists on there with more representation. We're not gonna have

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Speaker 1: Kanye's best album, Jay's best album. Obviously I gave you three,

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Speaker 1: gonna be on the list, but stay tuned for that.

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Speaker 1: But today, man, we're talking J Cole bro he just

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Speaker 1: dropped Obviously the fall off is on the way. You know,

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Speaker 1: it took a little hiatus because of the beef two

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Speaker 1: years ago and it got pushed back, but J Cole said,

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Speaker 1: fuck all that, we're gonna drop it February sixth. I

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Speaker 1: believe that is the tentative date for the project. And

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Speaker 1: one of the first singles that we are gonna be

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Speaker 1: talking about is track two, Disc two. Watch the music

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Speaker 1: video and everything. How did y'all feel about that.

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Speaker 2: Particular song, Well, he dropped that the little trailer first, right,

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Speaker 2: I thought that trailer was dope that he dropped saying

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Speaker 1: Song got You. Yeah, I didn't see the trailer.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it was a trailer that has a snippet

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Speaker 2: So I do want to mention that that he did

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Speaker 2: the video for that first song. But but yeah, man,

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Speaker 2: I just I just think it's crazy the irony of

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Speaker 2: so this kind of played into his his whole favor honestly,

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Speaker 2: when you think about it, I want to say I

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Speaker 2: but but I think it's interesting that he did in

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: We saw him on the beach, we saw him all

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Speaker 2: these other places or whatever. So I think it's interesting, Uh,

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Speaker 2: you know, what's what's going on with Jake Cole as

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Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on, hold hold on pause right there,

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Speaker 1: because I want to tap into what you said because

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Speaker 1: I don't disagree. You know, Initially I was like I thought,

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Speaker 1: But I agree with you. I do think it allowed

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Speaker 1: because the fall off was just him kind of playing like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Did But again, I think that plays into his favors.

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Speaker 2: It brings humility, right, you know what I'm saying, Like, like,

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Speaker 3: To get to get some footing under this thing.

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Speaker 2: Already got a lot of views like and it just drops,

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Speaker 1: Yeah. But now I think this was the best promo

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Speaker 1: Yeah, in reverse. So so I thought that was dope.

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Speaker 2: I mean, well, yeah, that's what he was going for.

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Speaker 3: Like like I said, he started off with.

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Speaker 2: Like I was like, damn, like he really telling like

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Speaker 2: I thought was was really cool to identify those those

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Speaker 2: Like, so that part you had to kind of come

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Speaker 4: out for you. Well, I don't know it didn't work

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Speaker 4: hell of a story that is told depending on how

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Speaker 4: good this album is. And this song is a good start,

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Speaker 4: including the trailer. Rod I do think the trailer was

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Speaker 3: And what he did with the song on the the

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Speaker 4: Back end of it, that sounded good. This song sounded

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Speaker 4: good as well. The beat was dope. The concept of

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Speaker 4: the song was the rapping J Cole just rapping. You know,

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Speaker 4: we already know he's good at that.

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Speaker 1: And and I think it delivered.

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Speaker 4: And you know, I think it's strong enough to create

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Speaker 4: So it's going to be interesting to see what the

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Speaker 4: to this, if there, if there is one, and I

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Speaker 4: think it's I think I also think it's dope, just

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Speaker 4: going with two six two six, like it's right there,

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Speaker 4: And I think that that was a good that was

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Speaker 4: a good move. I didn't even care, Yeah February. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: So I think that that's dope too. So that's another

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Speaker 4: thing that that's packaged right on top of it.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 4: And and and I think we're I think Jake Go's

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Speaker 4: off to a good start, man, I really do. Like

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Speaker 4: when I listened, I was like the first time when

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Speaker 4: the beat start, I was like, oh, he is good,

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Speaker 4: Like what is he gonna do with it?

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Speaker 1: And he did his thing with it?

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Speaker 3: Man, so you know, I can't even hate. Yeah. And

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Speaker 3: then then you heard the song that's like for the credits.

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Speaker 4: Right yeah, and that's yeah, yeah, I did. I thought

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Speaker 4: And I think that, man, that was a great lead

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know I mentioned the features and I'm

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Speaker 4: Yeah, bruh, Yeah, but the best of live and what

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Speaker 3: The inspiration was rare and it spurts the wind. It's there.

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Speaker 4: I'm immersed And if you just thinking about that, about

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Speaker 4: But maybe now after everything that went down taking that

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Speaker 2: You know, it is a good way to start the year.

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Speaker 2: And you know what with a good J Cole project,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's a really good start and it's

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Speaker 2: But but yeah, you know, telling what's gonna happen after that,

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Speaker 1: Know, no features.

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Speaker 3: So I can definitely see him doing that on this.

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Speaker 2: But man, this is definitely a solid, solid track to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think for j Cole, like a lot of

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