Speaker 1: On the Andy More Automotive Group potline. He knows I
Speaker 1: love him, but he forgot about me. A couple of
Speaker 1: days ago from ESPN, the senior writer Dan Wetzel joins us,
Speaker 1: my pal, did you forget about me?
Speaker 2: You don't? You know?
Speaker 3: You don't calling up anymore. I don't spend flowers, you know, right?
Speaker 2: Like you know? No, it was bad. It was bad.
Speaker 3: I am sorry you and more importantly to your listeners.
Speaker 1: Oh it is It is all good, pal. You know
Speaker 1: that you know how much I love you out there too.
Speaker 1: And hey, speaking of love, let's go the opposite of love.
Speaker 1: Ride here hate? Would I you in the football program
Speaker 1: be the most hated in college football? And the landscape
Speaker 1: right now? Is that what we're looking at?
Speaker 2: Are you?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't think they're hated. Why because
Speaker 2: they're they're they're the champs.
Speaker 1: Uh well, we'll look at the sec rallying in the troops,
Speaker 1: you know, Ohio stateon Michigan. You're looking at this infiltrator.
Speaker 1: You know, it used to be the doormat of college football,
Speaker 1: and now all of a sudden it's now the defending
Speaker 1: national champion. It seems like, hey, everything is all great
Speaker 1: until a team like this Infiltrates gets in and wins
Speaker 1: the national title. Now everything has to change. Why so
Speaker 1: much hate, Dan, Uh?
Speaker 2: Well, jealousy? I would say, I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 2: the one thing that Indiana did.
Speaker 3: Was blow out the excuse for about SUTI programs that's
Speaker 3: not more and why you.
Speaker 2: Can't compete, and.
Speaker 3: That to me it's the most fascinating part of their run,
Speaker 3: because I think you could reasonably sat around and said, hey,
Speaker 3: you know, how good can I don't know, you know,
Speaker 3: Missouri be? How good can Michigan State really be? How
Speaker 3: good can Minnesota? Well, Indiana was sixteen and uh so, uh,
Speaker 3: that's how good you can be if you get the
Speaker 3: right guy and and you're you get the right alignment
Speaker 3: and you get everything going.
Speaker 2: Uh, there's that, But I'd say there's a lot of jealousy.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of concern. When you're on top, you're
Speaker 2: gonna take the shots. But I don't think you're anywhere
Speaker 2: near the most heeded.
Speaker 1: So Dan Wetzell of ESPN ESPN dot COM's on the
Speaker 1: Andy Moore Automotive Group potline, how much longer do you
Speaker 1: think that the whole landscape of how you go about
Speaker 1: building a team and running you know, running a program
Speaker 1: within I L with a transfer portal. How much longevity
Speaker 1: do you think this ultimately has, Dan.
Speaker 2: I would think it.
Speaker 3: I think they'll they'll try to come up with some stuff,
Speaker 3: but there's only so much they can really limit it.
Speaker 3: At this point. The money is there, even even if
Speaker 3: they got some kind of ability to limit ants. Ferst
Speaker 3: to a degree where you know, they talk about you
Speaker 3: only have five years to play or something, and you
Speaker 3: have one one transfer without penalty, which I think is fine.
Speaker 3: You know, you can't transfer every year, but if you
Speaker 3: have one transfer without penalty and then you're always allowed
Speaker 3: to transfer once you've graduated. To become a grad student,
Speaker 3: you basically got two and three and a half to
Speaker 3: four years three years. Sometimes these kids graduate pretty quick.
Speaker 3: So I think the roster movements kind of here to
Speaker 3: say say it's about building a roster. I don't think
Speaker 3: they're going to be able to get you know, there's
Speaker 3: definitely people in the SEC to look back at the
Speaker 3: glory days of yeah, Georgia and Alabama got all the
Speaker 3: recruits and that's why they always won.
Speaker 2: But I just don't see that getting bad. There's no
Speaker 2: way to put.
Speaker 3: That that tooth space back in the tube. So wow, limits,
Speaker 3: But I don't think it's going to totally affect in Indiana.
Speaker 1: Hey, Dan, is that why we see the SEC? There
Speaker 1: seems to be a little bit of freak out going
Speaker 1: on there with Greg Sankee and and really lot of
Speaker 1: the coaches and the teams. Is that what they see?
Speaker 1: Do they see the longer term situation that they're going
Speaker 1: to have to deal with with this college football landscape
Speaker 1: that they never had to prior.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and like some of these complaints, if you if
Speaker 3: you if there was one thing about SEC media days,
Speaker 3: what we kept hearing is the Committee has to respect
Speaker 3: our strength to schedule right, And I'm not unsympathetic to
Speaker 3: that argument. I think the depth of the SEC is
Speaker 3: better than anywhere else. I think it's better. You know,
Speaker 3: the eighth nine tenth best team is better than maybe
Speaker 3: the eight nine tenth of the Big Ten, or they
Speaker 3: certainly care more. There's not many teams that are just
Speaker 3: sort of there kicking along your UCLA's or your Rutgers
Speaker 3: or whatever. But if you look at last year, the
Speaker 3: Committee absolutely gave the SEC the benefit the doubt. They
Speaker 3: put Oklahoma in the playoffs that didn't really have a
Speaker 3: great win. Their best win was Michigan, but that wasn't
Speaker 3: a very good team, and they got in without even debate.
Speaker 3: Alabama survived a terrible loss in the SEC championship game
Speaker 3: and got in. Notre Dame wasn't a Big ten team,
Speaker 3: but it was Notre Dame that got left out. And
Speaker 3: what did Oklahoma and Alabama do the respected because of
Speaker 3: their schedule, Well, they must be pretty good. Alabama beat
Speaker 3: Oklahoma and then they got beat thirty eight to three
Speaker 3: or so it was at least thirty eight to three
Speaker 3: in the end. They got run off the field at.
Speaker 2: The road balls. So like, what are you complaining about?
Speaker 3: Like, you got your chance and your teams didn't didn't
Speaker 3: show anything. They haven't had a SEC hasn't had a
Speaker 3: team in the title game in three year, let alone
Speaker 3: win it. They're losing significantly, you know, they're they're they're
Speaker 3: grasping as things to complain about. But getting more SEC
Speaker 3: teams into the playoff, because what's that going to show? Uh,
Speaker 3: you know, we're not seeing these SEC teams make you know,
Speaker 3: huge runs. I guess Ole Miss did last year that
Speaker 3: was pretty good. They made the final four. But you know,
Speaker 3: we're it's not like you're you're you're watching these fourth
Speaker 3: or fifth place teams and all of a sudden, the final.
Speaker 2: Four three STD teams.
Speaker 3: So I just think they're they're scrambling looking for something
Speaker 3: because they spent so many years dominant and then crowing
Speaker 3: about that dominance as is understandable, and they don't have
Speaker 3: that right now.
Speaker 1: So Dan Wetzel VESPN ESPN dot com, Dan, friend of
Speaker 1: the shows on the Andy Moore Auto Motive Group Potline
Speaker 1: Speedway City Garage, our location. Jeff's going to rejoin the
Speaker 1: second Doug Bowles Top of the Hour is going to
Speaker 1: be here live. Uh, your staked out home base is Michigan.
Speaker 1: Dusty May is a long time high school friend of mine.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: He bails after a national title, goes to Dallas. And
Speaker 1: I do know this, Dan, I know that that was
Speaker 1: always a goal of his, like any other coach, coach
Speaker 1: at the highest level, and he was offered and he took.
Speaker 1: But what is left behind? What is going on right
Speaker 1: now in an arbor? And was there a lot in
Speaker 1: your opinion of what you hear and what you know
Speaker 1: going up there that helped maybe him consider even more
Speaker 1: so that the NBA should be his next stop and
Speaker 1: be his next stop this year.
Speaker 2: You know, I kind of.
Speaker 3: Feel like Dusty was above the above the Fray as
Speaker 3: much as their Michigan keeps finding ways to put themselves
Speaker 3: in the headlines here.
Speaker 2: You know, the Harbaugh error was over.
Speaker 3: Sharon Moore scandals were really personal at this point. I mean,
Speaker 3: he got cheating on his wife with a staff member.
Speaker 3: That's not that's not really a NCA violation. He had
Speaker 3: a lot of problems, but Dusty had his own program
Speaker 3: running and they had plenty of backing all that, and
Speaker 3: obviously he knew he would capable winning national teams there.
Speaker 2: I just think, like you said.
Speaker 3: Anybody knows Dusty for a long time. The NBA's long
Speaker 3: intrigued him, and you know, I think he's gonna do
Speaker 3: pretty well. We'll see, But even if he does it,
Speaker 3: the thing about going to the NBA is it's not.
Speaker 2: A career killer.
Speaker 3: Michigan is a very good place to coach basketball, but
Speaker 3: it's not like it's the only place, and.
Speaker 2: There are probably places even better. So if Dusty may
Speaker 2: a couple.
Speaker 3: Of years it doesn't work out in Dallas, he can
Speaker 3: have the number one job whatever's open that year, All
Speaker 3: these schools will beg to get him. Whether it's you know,
Speaker 3: Kansas or North Carolina or even not you or whatever whatever's.
Speaker 2: Open that year, he'll go get it. So I think
Speaker 2: it did. I don't think one had so much to
Speaker 2: do with the other. If he had stayed he was,
Speaker 2: he was in great shape.
Speaker 1: Blinton. He always told me how important he was as
Speaker 1: a part of his staff in his program. And obviously
Speaker 1: now he gets annoyed there in an arbor to lead
Speaker 1: that that program and that team as the defending champion.
Speaker 1: You look back at his time at Oklahoma State and
Speaker 1: there was nothing really great about that. But I just
Speaker 1: know what Dusty tells me, and he was a huge
Speaker 1: part of the success of that program while he was
Speaker 1: in an r. But but what do you think about the
Speaker 1: guidance there moving forward?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I do it.
Speaker 3: A good movie kept them, kept the roster together for
Speaker 3: next year, and we'll see. Think about Mike Boyton, he
Speaker 3: is is a tenure in Oklahoma State does not stand out. However,
Speaker 3: two of the years they were like banned from the
Speaker 3: nca Basketball Tournament. He's dealing with a lot of sanctions.
Speaker 3: That program has lost a lot of juice. I think
Speaker 3: the rise of the Oklahoma City Thunder has played a
Speaker 3: role in sort of the de emphasis of I wasn't
Speaker 3: a de emphasis, but the last there's just not the
Speaker 3: passion around Oklahoma State and Okahoma basketball that there once
Speaker 3: was when those were the those are the teams. That's
Speaker 3: that's where basketball fans had to turn. And now, okay,
Speaker 3: see is so good. He did coach Kate Cunningham, who
Speaker 3: happens to be the biggest star in the biggest city
Speaker 3: of the state of Michigan. So you know, he's an
Speaker 3: experienced guy, but he's young. So we'll see he's gonna
Speaker 3: have a great chance to win the job. It's a
Speaker 3: two year contract, which is basically a one year contract,
Speaker 3: but uh, you don't have to get asked, you know,
Speaker 3: in the middle of November if you win or lose
Speaker 3: a game, are you coming back or not. It's a
Speaker 3: pretty smart contract. So we'll see he's got a great
Speaker 3: chance because they he kept almost all of the roster
Speaker 3: together and it should be a pretty good roster.
Speaker 1: I get down here really soon, all right, Mat, It's
Speaker 1: always great to have you on. We're going to stay
Speaker 1: in touch as we get closer to the end of summer,
Speaker 1: end of the fall. But Dan, I appreciate you more
Speaker 1: than you know. Pal.
Speaker 2: Thank you, ooculator man.
Speaker 1: There's Speedway President Doug Bowles walking over here. I Doug
Speaker 1: bowls towards us. Everybody loves them right here.
Speaker 5: So what do you think of this place?
Speaker 1: This is pretty awesome. It's pretty cool. You come here
Speaker 1: twice a day, That's what I hear.
Speaker 5: Certainly first thing in the morning, right and I got
Speaker 5: to get my coffee, and it's you know, you can
Speaker 5: keep an eye on the place because it's right across
Speaker 5: the streets.
Speaker 1: So did you walk over here?
Speaker 5: I did.
Speaker 1: I walked over there and got this. I saw you.
Speaker 5: I was going west earlier today and I saw you
Speaker 5: walking across the street.
Speaker 1: I was walking across the street. Ye, and I let
Speaker 1: cars just go ahead and go.
Speaker 5: Yep, you know what I mean, better than getting hit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't want to get here. I will say this,
Speaker 1: what they have done with its entire area and Speedway
Speaker 1: City garage is incredible, especially for those of us that
Speaker 1: know what it looked like guys back in the eighties,
Speaker 1: for example.
Speaker 5: Yep, No, this is a huge transition. I started working
Speaker 5: here in twenty ten and you had Dawson's and you
Speaker 5: had Charlie Brown's and that was really it. And just
Speaker 5: to see what the town of Speedway's really done with me,
Speaker 5: Street's fantastic. And you know, Jeff had Founders Grounds Coffee
Speaker 5: where I spent most of my mornings before he came here.
Speaker 5: And when he said I've got this idea, I think
Speaker 5: a lot of us are like, I don't do that.
Speaker 5: This is perfect because the way his coffee shop was
Speaker 5: before and this is the vision of this is pretty impressive.
Speaker 5: And we in the idea you get a beer at
Speaker 5: what's seven in the morning, seven thirty, seven thirty, it's.
Speaker 1: Like right up my alley right there. So now, would
Speaker 1: you come up, Jeff with this idea for the beer,
Speaker 1: the cocktails, the coffee, the food and all of it
Speaker 1: strutting early?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it's one of those deals where it's
Speaker 6: it's not a new concept, it's just one that needed
Speaker 6: to be refined a little bit.
Speaker 1: So there's other places that do.
Speaker 6: Coffee and cocktails and beer, but not all day long.
Speaker 6: You know, they'll stop the service of coffee at a
Speaker 6: certain point of the day. But we also know that
Speaker 6: people like their lattes later on the afternoon, So it
Speaker 6: made sense for us to do this concept, and I
Speaker 6: think it's going to work out.
Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe it's been pretty good. So Beth, that's here,
Speaker 5: Connor's mom my wife, so she just said, I bet
Speaker 5: I lowed everybody. So she's drinking the coffee today.
Speaker 1: I go. So it's kind of running coming up here.
Speaker 5: He's running trucks tomorrow night. I saw Raceway Park and.
Speaker 1: Connor a little bit of love for that too, because
Speaker 1: I love the Truck Series race, you know what.
Speaker 5: And he's and he will he will drive anything. He's
Speaker 5: a racers racer, which is really cool. And the one
Speaker 5: thing I love about this week. You know, we have
Speaker 5: the sprint car race tonight at the Speedway. Tomorrow night,
Speaker 5: you have the trucks at Raceway Park. You had practice
Speaker 5: for both Cup and O'Reilly tomorrow, and then you got
Speaker 5: to know Riley Race on Saturday, and then on Sunday
Speaker 5: you've got the Cup race. So if you're a race fan,
Speaker 5: just the opportunity to see all the different kind of
Speaker 5: racing in just such a small area and short amount
Speaker 5: of time, is it's pretty cool for this.
Speaker 1: Does he feel comfortable and doing the trucks at O'Reilly.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he did it. He did it a couple of
Speaker 5: years ago and they actually they rolled him out for
Speaker 5: practice and the car, the truck broke so he couldn't qualify,
Speaker 5: so he started last. So we got some time just
Speaker 5: running around at the back. And so I think, I
Speaker 5: think it'd be good. He's looking forward to fun. He's
Speaker 5: doing some Ram deal. So Ram Trucks has been putting
Speaker 5: celebrities or non NASCAR drivers in the cars all year long,
Speaker 5: and like Tony Stewart was in it during the Daytona
Speaker 5: five hundred weekend, So it'll be fun for him.
Speaker 1: I think, what's this weekend mean for you?
Speaker 5: It's hard to believe that we're like our thirty third brickyard,
Speaker 5: right It's it still feels like it's so new, but
Speaker 5: it's become one of the traditions here. It's really important
Speaker 5: for us, I think from a just putting continuing to
Speaker 5: put the Indianapolimotor Speedway on on the pedestal that it
Speaker 5: belongs on. And this is a great weekend. You know,
Speaker 5: we continue to see that the ticket sales slowly creeping
Speaker 5: up as it relates to a brickyard. You know, to
Speaker 5: look it's never gonna be the Indy five hundred. We
Speaker 5: had three hundred and fifty thousand people here in May,
Speaker 5: and you'll have sixty five or seventy thousand people here
Speaker 5: on Sunday, and you know that's twenty percent of the venue.
Speaker 5: So it's pretty crazy how it looks. But it's a
Speaker 5: great event. And I love working with our friends in NASCAR.
Speaker 5: We got to race with them at Phoenix last year.
Speaker 5: We'll probably race with them at Phoenix again next year,
Speaker 5: so they've been pretty good partners for us, not just
Speaker 5: here but across the board.
Speaker 1: I love the fact too. You think about the growth
Speaker 1: of the five hundred too, and you know, selling out
Speaker 1: as much, and it seems like that we have never
Speaker 1: seen the enthusiasm for that race more than we see
Speaker 1: it right now.
Speaker 5: You know, people always say, well, why is it selling out?
Speaker 5: It's selling out because our fans. It has nothing to
Speaker 5: do with really us. Our fans have just embraced the
Speaker 5: Indy five hundred again, and there are people that continue
Speaker 5: to come back and not just come back, but they
Speaker 5: bring people with them, and you know that it has
Speaker 5: nothing to do with anything other than it starts right
Speaker 5: here in this community. If you in April in this
Speaker 5: community when it comes alive and the people decorate their porches,
Speaker 5: and then it goes out from the speedway into the
Speaker 5: city of Indianapolis and Central Indiana, and we just take
Speaker 5: an awful lot of pride as a community in events,
Speaker 5: but certainly the Indy five hundred, and that's really the
Speaker 5: secret sauce that makes it so special, the people that
Speaker 5: show up every year.
Speaker 1: I got an email a little bit earlier that said,
Speaker 1: plan ahead for this weekend. What does that mean? Plane ahead?
Speaker 5: Plan ahead? I never plan ahead, so I want to
Speaker 5: have to try. So I don't how did you get
Speaker 5: here from downtown? The sixteenth Street bridge? No, right, So
Speaker 5: that's one of the big things. So people don't know
Speaker 5: it came from Bargersville. So yeah, but a lot of
Speaker 5: people that are coming from downtown or do it the
Speaker 5: way they've always done Sixteenth Street bridge clothes. It's a
Speaker 5: pain on a regular day, let alone a day where
Speaker 5: we've got events going on. So just trying to make
Speaker 5: sure people know how they're getting here, where they're going
Speaker 5: to park, when things are going to happen, just makes
Speaker 5: it a lot easier. Oftentimes, you put something in your
Speaker 5: on your mobile device and it takes you to the
Speaker 5: wrong place. So just making sure people are making their
Speaker 5: plans before they come to Yeah.
Speaker 1: I saw that a little bit earlier too. So how's
Speaker 1: this gone compared to maybe the last five years?
Speaker 5: So I would say ten years ago, the Brickyard four
Speaker 5: hundred was on life support. It was really struggling. The
Speaker 5: racing product wasn't as good as we wanted it to be.
Speaker 5: It was hot in the summer. People were just sort
Speaker 5: of struggling with NASCAR in general. That was a problem.
Speaker 5: And then over the last few years we went to
Speaker 5: the road course, which gave us a little bit of
Speaker 5: bump the first year, and there I said, okay, that's
Speaker 5: a novelty and we did a couple more years. But
Speaker 5: just getting back to the oval has been good. The
Speaker 5: racing has been relatively decent. I think it continues to
Speaker 5: get better. So it's growing slowly, but it is going
Speaker 5: in the right direction.
Speaker 1: Was it close to not being here any longer?
Speaker 5: No? I think for the drivers it's still one of
Speaker 5: their crown jewels, especially when it's on the oval. The
Speaker 5: road course they struggled with. You know, unless you were
Speaker 5: Michael McDowell right, you wanted it on the you wanted
Speaker 5: it to be on the on the oval. So I
Speaker 5: don't think it was ever close to being taken away
Speaker 5: from here because it is a crown jewel. But we
Speaker 5: definitely need to get it off life support, and I
Speaker 5: think I think we've done that.
Speaker 1: What are some of the things you've done to create
Speaker 1: more enthusiasm?
Speaker 5: A lot A lot of what we've done is I think,
Speaker 5: you know, sometimes familiarity breeds contempt, right, and so the
Speaker 5: more we were familiar with the oval and the racing
Speaker 5: product and more frustrated we got with it. So when
Speaker 5: we went back to the road course and that was
Speaker 5: okay for a year, and then people were like, hang
Speaker 5: on a minute, if you race at the Indian Apposmotor Speedway,
Speaker 5: you want to win on the oval. And so I
Speaker 5: think that created some energy. Kyle Larson certainly helped the
Speaker 5: fact that Kyle was running the five hundred for the
Speaker 5: two years he did, and then doing the brick card
Speaker 5: here that was helpful. I think NASCAR's picked up some
Speaker 5: more star names, which is which has helped it. And
Speaker 5: then our one the thing I love the most about
Speaker 5: is we continue to be fifteen and under free with
Speaker 5: your flex ticket, you can actually get a grandstand ticket
Speaker 5: as an adult and bring fifteen and unders for free,
Speaker 5: and you can choose those grand stands. There's several grand
Speaker 5: stands you can do with that. So just trying to
Speaker 5: get creative how we make the customer experience better and
Speaker 5: and the value better.
Speaker 1: That is Speedway President Doug Bowles. The owner of Speedway
Speaker 1: City Garage is Jeff Matthews. You want a question for Doug.
Speaker 1: You got a question for Doug right here.
Speaker 6: You know, I talked to Doug almost every day.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you do. And Doug and I go back.
Speaker 6: We get him all, well, you know, we've actually got
Speaker 6: a drink named after him. So he comes in and
Speaker 6: he orders a certain drink, and so we got to
Speaker 6: a point where like, well we're just gonna name this
Speaker 6: drink after him. So we got the president and it's
Speaker 6: interesting and it's fun to watch and listen to the
Speaker 6: president order the president.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what he does. That's that's great.
Speaker 6: So yeah, Doug and I go back for a few years,
Speaker 6: back to diar L days when he was in a
Speaker 6: panther and I was with a small team and and uh,
Speaker 6: it's just it's it's fun to sit here today.
Speaker 2: Here we are.
Speaker 1: You know, do you have a lot of relationships like
Speaker 1: that when when you go back to your days before
Speaker 1: you were a president.
Speaker 5: I mean there's a lot. Yeah, I have a handful
Speaker 5: of relationships like that.
Speaker 1: And there's nose seem like that they could be the
Speaker 1: strongest of bonds.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there are. There are some of those that are
Speaker 5: really strong. And then and so we talk coffee. But
Speaker 5: we also like pinball machines. Yeah, yeah, so we get
Speaker 5: a chance we're talking about in fact, this morning we
Speaker 5: were talking about pinball machines.
Speaker 1: All right, so what are we talking about? What pinball machines?
Speaker 5: So we both have the same machine. It's called spin Out.
Speaker 5: It's a nineteen seventy five racing themed, pretty simple machine.
Speaker 5: It means more to Jeff than I love it for
Speaker 5: the racing. But he remembers that he had it in
Speaker 5: his house as a kid, And so I got mine,
Speaker 5: and I when I end up with mine, he's like,
Speaker 5: I gotta find one, and so we talk about that,
Speaker 5: and then what other racing machines do we want to get?
Speaker 5: And it's just kind of fun.
Speaker 1: So I've always wanted the Gorgaar pinball machine because I
Speaker 1: believe that was the first one that had voice activation,
Speaker 1: Like when you walk by it, Gorgaar, it's yeah, oh god, right,
Speaker 1: good money. I've always wanted and I never really understood
Speaker 1: what Gorgaar was, but it was just so awesome for
Speaker 1: the time. I've always looked for that. You guys aware
Speaker 1: as pinball officiate were off Gorgar.
Speaker 5: And it's funny when you get it. Yes, yes, I
Speaker 5: for sure, but when you get into that the number
Speaker 5: there's a lot of people that are in the pinball
Speaker 5: machines and when they hear you're into it, they start
Speaker 5: and people will call you and say, I've got this game.
Speaker 5: You want this game? And I'm pretty focused on racing
Speaker 5: related games where they're people out there looking for.
Speaker 1: Every how many are there of racing Well, we were.
Speaker 5: Looking this morning and so so there's a there's a
Speaker 5: website called pin Side, and on pin Side you can
Speaker 5: have a wish list, and I think I probably got
Speaker 5: what we would look like ten or eleven racing related
Speaker 5: games so that we're interested. There's an amazing Indy five
Speaker 5: hundred game that fortunately Beth allowed me to pick up
Speaker 5: a couple of years ago ago. That's h and that
Speaker 5: was done in nineteen ninety five ninety six. So it's
Speaker 5: got Bobby Unster's voice, and it's got Paul Page's voice,
Speaker 5: and you can hear Tom Carnegie and it it's a
Speaker 5: really it's a really cool Indy five hundred game. But
Speaker 5: there's a bunch most of the racing games were done
Speaker 5: in the nine will be right.
Speaker 1: So I just think about those games that I think about,
Speaker 1: like Playboy with Hugh Hefner and then Kiss as well.
Speaker 1: Those were some of the phenomenal pinball I mean.
Speaker 6: And Doug's got a great one that I wish I had,
Speaker 6: the Evil Kniebral.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's pretty cool. Yeah, how many do you have?
Speaker 5: Just three? I just have, But my wish list is
Speaker 5: a bunch more than that. So I keep telling Beth,
Speaker 5: we need to make more room in the basement so
Speaker 5: they can. So you know, it's funny people, But what's
Speaker 5: the third do you have?
Speaker 4: The rate?
Speaker 5: So I've got the NY five hundred games, spin Out
Speaker 5: and and Evil Canievl or the three games that that
Speaker 5: I've got.
Speaker 1: Okay, man, that's great. I love pinball games.
Speaker 5: It is really fun. It is really fun.
Speaker 1: Do you think that that a lot of the video games,
Speaker 1: the old school video games have stood the test of time.
Speaker 1: Has pinball done the same thing?
Speaker 5: Pinball's kind of come back.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 5: You see an awful lot of people with pinball, and
Speaker 5: then you also see like the old pac Man's and
Speaker 5: the old pack you know, Misspacked. Those games also are
Speaker 5: kind of big right now. So there are a lot
Speaker 5: of people that collect them.
Speaker 1: And you have an arcade in your basement.
Speaker 5: We've got three mission not an arcade, but we have
Speaker 5: three machines in the basic.
Speaker 1: I guess the video games in there too, Gallaga, maybe
Speaker 1: the Little Donkey Kong something like that.
Speaker 5: Could be looking I'm looking okay, and the.
Speaker 1: Reason the reason why I want to bring I know,
Speaker 1: I think she's okay with it. We could put a
Speaker 1: little peer pressure on right here if you want, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we could. So what is are you involved at all
Speaker 1: with the the indiecar video?
Speaker 5: For sure? One hundred percent?
Speaker 1: Where are we going with that right now?
Speaker 5: Well, so we've had I Racing has been fantastic, So
Speaker 5: the simulator side of racing has been really really good
Speaker 5: over the last decade or so. But we haven't had
Speaker 5: a console game in twenty years, and so that's we
Speaker 5: have been really working hard to get a console game.
Speaker 5: And when I Racing decided to get into console games,
Speaker 5: they actually did the NASCAR game that's out right now.
Speaker 5: They say, hey, let's go figure out how to do
Speaker 5: an IndyCar game. So we've seen a lot of the
Speaker 5: renders and some of the some of the initial play
Speaker 5: the game. It'll it'll come out the first quarter of
Speaker 5: next year. Really excited about that and that that opens
Speaker 5: us up to a completely new audience because there are
Speaker 5: sim gamers and then there are console gamers. So the
Speaker 5: folks that really play the you know, the play PlayStations
Speaker 5: in the xboxes, that this will be that for them,
Speaker 5: and it's going to be great for our sport. And
Speaker 5: you get to play the drivers you like, the cars
Speaker 5: you like. It's gonna be a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: Who's on the cover.
Speaker 5: We don't have a cover yet. We're working on that,
Speaker 5: so we got a little bit of time.
Speaker 1: We got a little bit of time to get there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so what are the options of the cover right now?
Speaker 5: You know that it's a great question. I don't know
Speaker 5: exactly what we'll so I think it's going to be
Speaker 5: called IndyCar the Game. So well, Alex Plow would be
Speaker 5: the guy that you pick, right now, yeah, Well, I mean.
Speaker 1: Will they like fight over who wants to be on
Speaker 1: the cover.
Speaker 5: No, I think we'll look at what makes the most
Speaker 5: sense for the sport. My guess is it would be
Speaker 5: the car and some and multiple drivers at that point.
Speaker 1: It's funny. My kid, who Blake is a big race fan,
Speaker 1: text me the other day. So he's watching the Sopranos
Speaker 1: series and he goes, man Aj is playing some cart
Speaker 1: the kart racing game from I think ninety nine or
Speaker 1: two thousand, I don't know which one that was, but
Speaker 1: he was actually playing it on an episode of the Sopranos.
Speaker 1: That's the type of product placement you guys need right there.
Speaker 5: And so so we're excited about the opportunities that'll that'll
Speaker 5: present for us, and I think it's gonna be a
Speaker 5: good game. And it's long, long, long, over time.
Speaker 1: Why why has it been so long?
Speaker 5: Well, I think a lot of it is we hadn't
Speaker 5: focused on it so for a period of time. When
Speaker 5: there was the split, that was a challenge, and then
Speaker 5: when you unification happened, people were just worried about getting
Speaker 5: this moving the sport forward. And I just don't know
Speaker 5: that the audience was big enough, you know, there wasn't
Speaker 5: enough momentum for somebody to take the risk of creating
Speaker 5: a game like that. And then Motorsports Games was going
Speaker 5: to do a game for us, and that that whole
Speaker 5: company went under, And really what I Racing did was
Speaker 5: stepped in and said, look, this is there's too much
Speaker 5: value in this. Let's figure out how we make it
Speaker 5: work from here. So a lot of it was just
Speaker 5: the timing wasn't right for IndyCar, and then the Motorsports
Speaker 5: game things fell apart, and now we're at the point
Speaker 5: where I think I Racing trying to step into the
Speaker 5: console game that makes sense for that.
Speaker 1: Was it disappointing with the way things were down with
Speaker 1: the weather following the World Cup match last week in Nashville?
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was really disappointing.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 5: The worst part about outside races, especially Ovals's weather. First
Speaker 5: of all, everybody's in. Everybody's a weather man, right because
Speaker 5: we all have it on our apps. Even the five
Speaker 5: hundred this year, I had people saying, hey, you need
Speaker 5: to cancel the five hundred, move it to Monday. You're
Speaker 5: crazy for stay And the one thing that I've learned
Speaker 5: is you cannot make a decision on weather until you're
Speaker 5: within a few hours of the weather there. There's maybe
Speaker 5: there there. Every once in a while you know for
Speaker 5: sure you're going to get a massive rain and you
Speaker 5: can move on. But for the most part, especially here,
Speaker 5: the weather changes. So I'm just glad we stuck with it.
Speaker 5: Same thing with Nashville. What hurt us at Nashville was
Speaker 5: the lightning delays that happened essentially as soon as the
Speaker 5: as soon as the soccer game was over, not not
Speaker 5: the post game, but as soon as the game ended
Speaker 5: or when they were real close to ending. We started
Speaker 5: getting in lightning delays. But the weather was missing us
Speaker 5: other than the lightning, and if you're within eight miles,
Speaker 5: TV has to come down, all of their all of
Speaker 5: their guys have to come out, so you couldn't broadcast
Speaker 5: it anyway. So we kept having these weather delays, and
Speaker 5: then we thought we were going to be okay, and
Speaker 5: it looked like the rain was going to miss us,
Speaker 5: and then the one of the storms that was going
Speaker 5: to go to just miss us barely started blowing up,
Speaker 5: and that was that rain that caused us the issue.
Speaker 5: So a lot of people are giving us a hard
Speaker 5: time saying, well, if you'd come out of soccer earlier.
Speaker 5: Actually we had a weather delay soccer. Fox stayed with
Speaker 5: soccer longer than they planned, because what we really wanted
Speaker 5: to do was come out of soccer and go right
Speaker 5: to racing, not to pre race, but right to racing.
Speaker 5: And so they said, look, we'll stay at soccer longer
Speaker 5: to give us that opportunity, which we thought we'd get.
Speaker 5: And then ultimately that rain came and was so so
Speaker 5: much rain that we just knew we couldn't we couldn't
Speaker 5: move on, and then we you know, have to run
Speaker 5: on Monday, and running on mondays terrible. The good news
Speaker 5: about the Monday race was we we still had seven
Speaker 5: hundred and seventy five thousand viewers on a Monday afternoon, right,
Speaker 5: we had two point nine million viewers that actually watched
Speaker 5: the rain delay broadcast of IndyCars. So you know what,
Speaker 5: I think we're most excited about that. Seven to seventy
Speaker 5: five on a Monday afternoon is a pretty strong number.
Speaker 1: I look back too, as you're probably hoping for non
Speaker 1: extra time or not for that soccer match, did you
Speaker 1: find yourself say we'll just get this thing.
Speaker 5: Well, initially we were, we were not wanting not the
Speaker 5: extra time, and then when it got an extra time, right,
Speaker 5: you know, we ended up having that rain delay. So
Speaker 5: even if that non extra time hadn't lightning delay, even
Speaker 5: if that hadn't happened, we'd have been in the same
Speaker 5: situation with lightning. But yes, as the game was going,
Speaker 5: we're like, just get this game over and let us
Speaker 5: have an opportunity to go racing.
Speaker 1: And that's that's hard right there, when you're dealing with
Speaker 1: mother nature of good luck with it. Seriously, I mean,
Speaker 1: what penny to do nothing? And yeah, and it's good
Speaker 1: that you've got that good number on Monday too, because
Speaker 1: that's also a tough avenue to take, right. For sure,
Speaker 1: you never really know what you're going to get, and
Speaker 1: most of the time, if you feel you know what
Speaker 1: you're going to get, it is probably not going to
Speaker 1: be great.
Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, no, it was. It was not ideal. The
Speaker 5: worst part is the way it's terrible for fans. I mean,
Speaker 5: you've got fans who have to go to work but
Speaker 5: have to go back to work on Monday, or who
Speaker 5: have made other plans, and you put fans in a really,
Speaker 5: really terrible spot. We talked at one point in time
Speaker 5: as do we just try and go as late as
Speaker 5: we can and get it in on Sunday night. And
Speaker 5: we were prepared at that point in time to go
Speaker 5: to eleven o'clock start time, but when that trenchill rain came,
Speaker 5: we realized there's no way we'd make it by eleven even.
Speaker 1: That is Speedway President Doug Bulls and Jeff Matthews, the
Speaker 1: owner here of Speedway City Garage, and that's a location
Speaker 1: the NASCAR Haller Parade. Doug, this is the first time
Speaker 1: I've ever seen one. Why it's entail. I've never been
Speaker 1: here before.
Speaker 5: Saw the trucks that bring all the cars in. We
Speaker 5: call them transporters in IndyCar. They call them hallers in NASCAR.
Speaker 5: So all the transporters will be lined up here. It's
Speaker 5: a really cool event because so many people come to
Speaker 5: this with kids, and it's a really cool opportunity for
Speaker 5: kids to get right up next close to those trucks.
Speaker 5: The truck drivers oftentimes are handing out hero cars. It
Speaker 5: just is a fun way to celebrate the fact that
Speaker 5: the Brickyards just around the corner. This Haller Parade idea
Speaker 5: is started here in Indianapolis. There's a couple other communities
Speaker 5: that do it now, but this is as much a
Speaker 5: tradition as kissing the Bricks. Thirtieth anniversary of that this
Speaker 5: year at the Brickyard, it's the Haller Parade that comes
Speaker 5: right here on Main Street and then everybody all these
Speaker 5: businesses on Main Street, so we're in one of the
Speaker 5: great ones here on the North End. But walking up
Speaker 5: and down Main Street there's tons of shops, tons of
Speaker 5: places to eat. It's really a cool evening of just
Speaker 5: seeing the haulers and getting a chance to check out
Speaker 5: the vibrancy of Main Street.
Speaker 1: Do you have a favorite NASCAR driver? Oh? Who? Your
Speaker 1: favorite driver is coming out tomorrow night? Yeah?
Speaker 5: No, I mean yeah, So Connor would be my favorite
Speaker 5: Yune car driver. Followed behind if it wasn't family related.
Speaker 5: Followed behind by Will Power because Will it's just crazy.
Speaker 1: Sure, he's crazy, all right.
Speaker 5: So I'm a Chase Briscoe fan, a Christopher Bell fan,
Speaker 5: and a Kyle Larson fan. Those would be my two.
Speaker 1: So here's what's funny about Chase Briscoe around here, and
Speaker 1: he's kind enough to come on the show often, and
Speaker 1: he's from Mitchell, Indiana, down where I'm from. It does
Speaker 1: not seem like that he gets the love nor the
Speaker 1: notoriety that certainly Jeff Gordon got from the time that
Speaker 1: he spent over in Hendris County or Tony Stewart from
Speaker 1: being from here as well. How do you get I mean,
Speaker 1: is it all up to winning and results or what
Speaker 1: is it with Chase Because it seems like if you're
Speaker 1: really going on a raise somebody around here that would
Speaker 1: be the dude because he is from Laurent Rule, Lawrence County,
Speaker 1: for sure.
Speaker 5: I think Jeff came to NASCAR exactly the right time.
Speaker 5: You had the older guard beginning to slow down. You
Speaker 5: had this young, good looking kid from Indiana slash California,
Speaker 5: and he instantly became successful. Yeah, and so Chase has
Speaker 5: not been as successful as Jeff, as He's obviously won
Speaker 5: some races. He's really competitive and and he's a great guy.
Speaker 5: And I hope to the extent he continues to win
Speaker 5: races that that people get on board, especially Hoosiers, get
Speaker 5: on board with Chase. He's a great guy. He and
Speaker 5: Connor get along really well. It's pretty fun when you
Speaker 5: see some of these indy car drivers who actually have
Speaker 5: good relationship with NASCAR drivers. In fact, I think Connor
Speaker 5: spent some time Bend and Chase's ear about driving trucks even.
Speaker 1: That's pretty cool. I just I just think that he
Speaker 1: is as talented, and I just kind of wonder why,
Speaker 1: you know, from locally speaking, he doesn't get as much
Speaker 1: known to.
Speaker 5: Run the other thing too. I think I think you
Speaker 5: think about the pop larity of NASCAR when it came
Speaker 5: here in nineteen ninety four, was such a big deal.
Speaker 5: That was a part of the platform. Was maybe a
Speaker 5: little bit bitter.
Speaker 1: And Jeff was a phenomenon.
Speaker 5: It was definitely Wow. Yeah, he's actually he's actually over
Speaker 5: at the museum right now, is it really, Yeah, he's
Speaker 5: because we've got in the museum, we've got a Jeff
Speaker 5: Gordon exhibit, so he's over there officially doing the ribbon cutting.
Speaker 1: So I had my kids with me, and they were
Speaker 1: much younger once upon a time, and you put me
Speaker 1: up in the pagoda, and I'm in the bathroom and
Speaker 1: I hear my daughter, who was I think around eight
Speaker 1: at the time, Lenny talking to somebody. I go, who
Speaker 1: in the world is she talking to? And I walk
Speaker 1: out of the bathroom and it's Jeff Gordon. I don't
Speaker 1: know if she knows anything of what you're talking about
Speaker 1: right here. But it was a thank you very much,
Speaker 1: Terre Hote. It was a really cool moment right there.
Speaker 1: And see, those are moments that you will remember forever
Speaker 1: around here, because that's what can happen when you run into.
Speaker 5: Guys like you know. I remember when I first started
Speaker 5: working the speedway. One of the one of the things
Speaker 5: I think was a challenge for us was I was told, hey, Ja,
Speaker 5: he doesn't like NASCAR because none of the NASCAR guys
Speaker 5: that go on the show. And that was one of
Speaker 5: the things I do get pissy about that, and that
Speaker 5: was one of the things I was like, well, we
Speaker 5: got to fix that. And that's the beauty like a
Speaker 5: Chase Briscoe and you got people that because there are
Speaker 5: still drivers who.
Speaker 1: Are Logano comes on and he's awesome too, So you've.
Speaker 5: Got you do have a handful of guys that are like,
Speaker 5: I don't want to call radio, and they don't understand
Speaker 5: how big your reach is and how important because you're
Speaker 5: and you're talking to sports fans exactly right, You're talking
Speaker 5: to their their core demo. And so when you have
Speaker 5: guys that understand it, like a Chase and and and
Speaker 5: Joey's really good about that too. You know, even Michael
Speaker 5: McDowell coming in last week and trying to help out
Speaker 5: those Those are the guys that are the good guys
Speaker 5: that understand how important it is to talk to the fans.
Speaker 1: Mike Chapel of CBS four and Fucked at the Nines
Speaker 1: on the Dymore Automnive group, Paula, Hello, Mike, how are you? Mike?
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask because you kind of chimed in
Speaker 1: on the whole Caitlin Clark thing last night. Here's what
Speaker 1: I say. It can be okay if you feel that
Speaker 1: that's that's what you are. In this case, you are
Speaker 1: you're compelled to be a competitor and you get teed up.
Speaker 1: But honestly, when you've already done that and you're you're
Speaker 1: sitting on six and now seven in a thirty point blowout,
Speaker 1: as the team leader, the most important piece of that team,
Speaker 1: you're going to let that thing go. Yeah, and I.
Speaker 4: Understand, And the defense is going to be, well, she's
Speaker 4: such a competitor and she doesn't have an off switch. Well,
Speaker 4: you also have to understand the moment. And now maybe
Speaker 4: there's a couple of games. I don't know what the
Speaker 4: rules are. Once you have eight, you're suspended one game, okay,
Speaker 4: you come back, and then you get another one that
Speaker 4: you get like a couple more before you're suspended again.
Speaker 1: I don't how that work. You go, you go to eight,
Speaker 1: you're suspended, and then two more. Every two after that
Speaker 1: you get suspended again.
Speaker 4: But you know, at one point then I guess what
Speaker 4: you do? You look at the schedule. If there's two
Speaker 4: easy games, easier games, you get teed up in one
Speaker 4: to get thrown out, and then you know you don't
Speaker 4: play the nice game if you play two crappy teams.
Speaker 4: But what what she's done with her fiery way she
Speaker 4: approaches the game is she's put herself one one, one
Speaker 4: reaction away from a suspension, and your best player can't
Speaker 4: should not put herself in that situation. It was unnecessary,
Speaker 4: and I understand the fire that burns in her. And
Speaker 4: somebody mentioned where that was such a soft peck. Maybe,
Speaker 4: But but you've got to understand also that these rests
Speaker 4: don't know what the hell they're doing. They're not out there,
Speaker 4: they're just out there guessing. So don't put yourself, don't
Speaker 4: don't put that your availability in someone else's hands. Walk away,
Speaker 4: and and I don't know, the word that comes to
Speaker 4: mind is unnecessary because she's put herself with the accumulation
Speaker 4: in a spot where maybe there's something that's really valid.
Speaker 4: Somebody's really pushed her to the edge, and you respond, Well,
Speaker 4: then the legitimate one gets you a suspicion when maybe
Speaker 4: there were a couple and there have been a couple
Speaker 4: that were that were iffies, but that doesn't matter. They're
Speaker 4: on there, so that's the only thing. And when they
Speaker 4: I tell you, when they play like they did last night,
Speaker 4: I realized Connecticut's not very good. But when you get
Speaker 4: three players that can routinely drop seventy points as these
Speaker 4: three players can do, you can do great things that
Speaker 4: they still can't play defense they either can or won't
Speaker 4: or whatever. You know what they remind me of You
Speaker 4: remember Loyola, Meloch Marrymount. Yeah, they were That's what they
Speaker 4: remind me of. They want to get the game set up.
Speaker 4: They didn't care if they gave a easy basket is
Speaker 4: in a gate. They let them get going hot and
Speaker 4: heavy the other way. But but no, one hundred and
Speaker 4: twenty three points and the third with the fourth quarter
Speaker 4: for mainly your backup, so they could have scored if
Speaker 4: they had a mind too, they could have scored one
Speaker 4: hundred and thirty and not bad at I.
Speaker 1: Hey, Mike, I say this. Don't get triggered by a scrub. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, she got triggered by a scrub for one
Speaker 1: point a tony point blowout. Don't get triggered and compromise
Speaker 1: your participation in the future by a scrub. That's it,
Speaker 1: because maybe.
Speaker 4: That's what happens when it matters and they send a
Speaker 4: the eighth player on the roster out the rough her up,
Speaker 4: and you know, she throws an elbow or whatever I
Speaker 4: mean Clark in response, and then she suspended it, and
Speaker 4: then it matters, and may maybe they're probably good enough
Speaker 4: to handle a one game suspension with the way they're
Speaker 4: playing and their record, but it's just unnecessary.
Speaker 1: And.
Speaker 4: I don't anticipate her changing. It's kind of like with
Speaker 4: Andrew Luck with it the way he played. He always
Speaker 4: told us he would try to change how he played,
Speaker 4: and and he didn't a lot because that's who that's
Speaker 4: what made him who he is. But at the same time,
Speaker 4: what is it the best ability, the availability and and
Speaker 4: if you if you can't play, you can't help. Although, yeah,
Speaker 4: my chapel of just behave behaviorself, but just just watch
Speaker 4: your reactions.
Speaker 1: My chapel of CBS four and Fox with you down
Speaker 1: with us. So next week Coats camp officially gets started.
Speaker 1: What are the some of the dialogue expectations when the
Speaker 1: players come in, you guys converse with them, What are
Speaker 1: some of the expectations from Daniel Jones to John Fan Taylor,
Speaker 1: to Leatu Latu, the Mooney Ward to the Forrest Buckner.
Speaker 1: Give me some of the expectations, Mike.
Speaker 4: Oh, they're going to talk to defensively, this I think
Speaker 4: this is a chance to be a really good top
Speaker 4: ten defense that I think they can be if the
Speaker 4: Forrest Buckner can give them some meaningful playing time. And
Speaker 4: we don't know Daniel Jones. See, I don't know who
Speaker 4: we get on Southy when they report we won't get Jones,
Speaker 4: I don't think. But no, they're gonna be optimistic again
Speaker 4: if this team can stay healthy, which I already already
Speaker 4: saw that Carolina lost a top tier linebacker with a
Speaker 4: knee injury or lower leg injury or whatever. But I
Speaker 4: think they're gonna be optimistic.
Speaker 1: Again.
Speaker 4: Defensively, you've got five new starters. Offensively, you know with
Speaker 4: the Tyler Warrens, and it's a good offense with Tyler
Speaker 4: Warren and Pierce and downs internally Jonathan Taylor. But the
Speaker 4: quarterback has to be healthy and stay healthy, so it'll
Speaker 4: be upfeat. It always is a beat. Sometimes you're thinking, yeah,
Speaker 4: these guys they're talking big and they'll be you know,
Speaker 4: four and twelve back in the sixteen game season. But
Speaker 4: I think there's rent for this team to be up
Speaker 4: theat But it just it just depends on four or
Speaker 4: five issues, and some of them is an injury. But again,
Speaker 4: until you start playing, you're not gonna know. I'm more
Speaker 4: interested next Tuesday when Chris Ballard talks with us. He
Speaker 4: always does that free camp and he'll he'll give us
Speaker 4: some insight I think on who's aware, who's going to
Speaker 4: do what, whether a buckler is going to be on
Speaker 4: puff or calix.
Speaker 2: Here.
Speaker 4: See the last time we saw I like, here's he
Speaker 4: wasn't practicing because of the ankle. Well that's been a month,
Speaker 4: five weeks, so he very well could have been. I'm
Speaker 4: sure by now he's running around now, whether it's full
Speaker 4: go I don't know, but you know, one of the
Speaker 4: big questions is when he'll be ready to really cut
Speaker 4: loosing camp. And that's kind of important because if you're
Speaker 4: paid him big money and if you got rid of
Speaker 4: Michael Pittman and you don't really have approven number three receiver.
Speaker 1: To Mike Chapel of CBS four or Fox with It,
Speaker 1: don he might be. That's why I let you go here.
Speaker 1: We're kind of short on time. I want to ask
Speaker 1: you this. I brought this up yesterday. Situationally speaking, is
Speaker 1: there a scenario that you looked at if the Colts
Speaker 1: lived down again to expectations at twenty twenty six to
Speaker 1: where they have an organizational change but the head coach
Speaker 1: remains the same. How much of a possibility is that?
Speaker 4: In my mind? Not likely because then again you're and again,
Speaker 4: I think Shane is one of the top offensive coordinators
Speaker 4: offensive minds in the league now, whether he's made enough
Speaker 4: growth as a head coach. No, I think if Carly
Speaker 4: decides to make a change, it's everything, and then which
Speaker 4: only a handful of players will be off limits. As
Speaker 4: far as you know. I guess core players, I guess
Speaker 4: for the younger players are draft picks. Now if it
Speaker 4: doesn't go well, barring injuries, really you know, complicate things.
Speaker 4: I just think she blows it up and starts over.
Speaker 1: I would agree with you on that they're just ways.
Speaker 1: For example, if they don't live up through expectations as
Speaker 1: a team and the offense looks good in the process,
Speaker 1: I kind of wonder if situations are rethought.
Speaker 4: Yeah, trutally, but again, then you're telling you're telling your
Speaker 4: new general manager. You know, here's your team, and by
Speaker 4: the way, here's your head coach, and here's your quarterback.
Speaker 4: It makes a lot of sense to not have let
Speaker 4: the general manager make this team in his own image
Speaker 4: would be difficult from the start.
Speaker 1: Right, And my chapel of CBS four Fox with the
Speaker 1: nine Tuesday will be out in front of all of
Speaker 1: it with the players and Chris Boward and everybody for
Speaker 1: the final time that Grant Park in Westfield before it
Speaker 1: moves over to West fifty six. And we'll see what
Speaker 1: happens after that. Yeah, it's gonna be interesting, Mike, it
Speaker 1: it really is. It's funny. I mentioned this at the
Speaker 1: outset of the show. I thought even more so last
Speaker 1: year there most of the Colts fans out there are
Speaker 1: gonna say, yeah, I'll believe it when I see it,
Speaker 1: and it's going to have to be the entirety of
Speaker 1: the season, not just half of it.
Speaker 4: And you can't blame him. It's it's been five years
Speaker 4: enough to play off, so you know at the proven
Speaker 4: League and no one gives you much when you go
Speaker 4: eight to nine or nine and eight or whatever, and
Speaker 4: they don't want to excuse the just win, baby.
Speaker 1: Mike, I appreciate you. Man. Next week we'll do it
Speaker 1: for real while they're in training camp, pal thank you
Speaker 1: instead of bees, and we can just talk about real
Speaker 1: so I know, real things and no BS. That'd be weird,
Speaker 1: although I think most of my shows a lot of
Speaker 1: BS anyway, So yeah, thanks Mike, Mike Chappell and CBS
Speaker 1: four and Fox with the Nine on the Indy Moore
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