WEBVTT - Mac & Bone Show - Adam Gold Interview 

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<v Speaker 1>The craziest thing, Bone, about what has just happened here

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<v Speaker 1>on the Mac and Bone show is that the text line,

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<v Speaker 1>not all, not even the majority.

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<v Speaker 1>But 30% or so responding to the Chris Sims, Wussy Cats,

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<v Speaker 1>Yo-Ho-Ho pirate routine, about 30% of them are saying, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>he wasn't telling any lies.

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<v Speaker 2>We deserve that one. And I don't think we're saying

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<v Speaker 2>he was lying.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, he was putting us down for all the horrible

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that we did on that football field. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>that he hated being picked on the week before. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, he's a tough guy. Like Bagel

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<v Speaker 1>Guy Bone, of course.

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<v Speaker 3>You can name off the people that enjoyed that without

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<v Speaker 3>even looking at the text line.

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<v Speaker 2>And Bagel Guy is one of them.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's some A-plus trolling right there.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Bebop would even like that. He did. But

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<v Speaker 2>here's the thing, though. He's like three texts below you.

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<v Speaker 1>If you are a troller, you have to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to take the trolling. I can't say it any simpler

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<v Speaker 1>than that. You can't cry victim the week before and

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<v Speaker 1>then be a badass. Because now it's on. You will

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<v Speaker 1>be trolled constantly now. Or at least you should be.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a rule in life that you can't be soft

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<v Speaker 3>and then call somebody a wussy cat and use those

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<v Speaker 3>type of terms the next week. You don't call a

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<v Speaker 3>grown man a wussy cat. It's something you don't do.

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<v Speaker 3>We're also getting a lot of this.

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<v Speaker 1>He is angry still that Al Wallace.

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<v Speaker 2>Messed up his ruptured screen. Yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe there's something to that. We can't say it, though,

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<v Speaker 3>can we? No, no, there's former players questioning that, too.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, let's just.

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<v Speaker 2>Leave it at that, though. Let's leave it at that.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. Anyway, speaking of players, that's the word I

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<v Speaker 1>think of when we bring in our next guest, baby.

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<v Speaker 2>Just a player. Adam Gold is joining us.

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<v Speaker 1>99.9 The Fan in Raleigh here in Charlotte. You can

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<v Speaker 1>listen to him most weeknights at 7 o'clock. And Goldie

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<v Speaker 1>is here, I'm sure, to chime in. on the Panther debacle,

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<v Speaker 1>among many other things. What's up, Goldie? How you doing, brother?

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<v Speaker 4>I am doing well. Who has the thinnest skin? Chris Sims,

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<v Speaker 4>Pat McAfee, or Stephen A. Smith?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>The answer is yes. That is a great question.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, McAfee's thin skin will appear next segment on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's interesting you bring that up. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>go McAfee in the moment, yes.

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<v Speaker 4>Did you see the video... That he is all like,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, underwear and a bunch about.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so bland from the Utah students.

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<v Speaker 4>It's nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>He felt uncomfortable at you. Are you joking?

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<v Speaker 2>I thought he might get assassinated off that video. And

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<v Speaker 2>what in the world?

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<v Speaker 1>We got to play this for y'all coming up next

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<v Speaker 1>segment of what he said, because it was unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 3>You think that a guy that makes that much money

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<v Speaker 3>is involved in as many things as he wants to do,

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<v Speaker 3>controls all of ESPN, would not really care what a

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<v Speaker 3>bunch of Utah nerds have to say about him.

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<v Speaker 2>But here we say seriously.

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<v Speaker 4>Was he most offended by the keep your shirt on?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, if they said that about me, I would understand.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe that's why McAfee's like, I'm fit. I actually look

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<v Speaker 1>good with my shirt off.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, man. I don't get it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we got to let y'all hear what he said

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<v Speaker 1>on his show yesterday, because it is crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>But.

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<v Speaker 1>Also crazy was the Panthers' performance that we did not

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<v Speaker 1>see come in Goldie. I mean, how much does that

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<v Speaker 1>worry you that, man, maybe this team has not made

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<v Speaker 1>the strides and the growth that we.

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<v Speaker 2>Thought they did?

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<v Speaker 1>Or do you just view it as just a crap

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<v Speaker 1>game and flush it like they've been saying?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not going to be prisoner of the moment about it.

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<v Speaker 4>It all depends on whether or not we have assigned

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<v Speaker 4>meaning to to the previous two weeks where, all right,

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<v Speaker 4>this is a team that's basically now going to run

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<v Speaker 4>roughshod on the rest of the league. And I didn't.

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<v Speaker 4>I still think that they were, you know, a 9

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<v Speaker 4>or 10 win team. And that doesn't change. And they

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<v Speaker 4>had a bad game against a capable team. And let's

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<v Speaker 4>be perfectly honest. The mistakes that they made early, the

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<v Speaker 4>muffed punts, then the strip sack return for a touchdown

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<v Speaker 4>had them in a spot where they were behind it.

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<v Speaker 4>Then Bryce completes, I mean, a gorgeous pass to Waller

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<v Speaker 4>for the touchdown. And then they can't block the guy

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<v Speaker 4>up the middle. And all of a sudden, so rather

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<v Speaker 4>than pick up seven points, they'd pick up four. And

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<v Speaker 4>so instead of being down, it would have been 17, what? 17, seven. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>it's now 19-6. Unbelievable. So right there, then you throw

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<v Speaker 4>the interception. I actually haven't heard whether or not... I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>that pass was so bad, part of me thinks that

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<v Speaker 4>it was a bad route or guys trying to read

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<v Speaker 4>off each other and they just individually made different reads.

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<v Speaker 4>Because the pass was... I don't know who that was to.

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<v Speaker 4>I really don't. Seriously. So... After that, I think the

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<v Speaker 4>game was gone, and I don't really put anything into it.

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<v Speaker 4>It was just one of those things. But look, on

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<v Speaker 4>the back-to-back sacks, we've been saying, at least I have,

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<v Speaker 4>all year long, I don't trust the offensive line. It's

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<v Speaker 4>amazing that they were this good without a good offensive line.

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<v Speaker 4>They're not good up the middle. Rasheed Walker has not

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<v Speaker 4>been good. He has not been good at left tackle.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if it was a plant by Ike

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<v Speaker 4>Ikuonu to get paid. But Walker has not been good.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's been brutal.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think eventually they're going to have to make

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<v Speaker 3>a move at defensive coordinator?

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<v Speaker 4>No. No, I like Averro. I mean, is he Vic Fangio?

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<v Speaker 4>Probably not. But there's a reason why he is one

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<v Speaker 4>of those under-the-radar head coaching candidates. I think he has

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<v Speaker 4>got a great rep around the league. I don't think

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<v Speaker 4>he's the problem. Uh, to me, the pro I mean, honestly,

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<v Speaker 4>there were 14 to 16 defensive points put on the board, um, early.

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<v Speaker 4>I just think you get, they, they haven't been able

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<v Speaker 4>to stop the run forever. So, I mean, Vero is

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<v Speaker 4>not the first guy that, uh, hasn't been able to

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<v Speaker 4>stop the run. Uh, like I said, it's against the, uh,

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<v Speaker 4>the bears and it was made worse by Caleb Williams, uh,

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<v Speaker 4>going nuts. They couldn't stop Swift either. Um, the, I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not a hundred percent sure they've got elite defensive personnel.

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<v Speaker 4>I think there's only so much you can do. Lloyd

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<v Speaker 4>is great. Uh, I don't think Derrick Brown had his

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<v Speaker 4>best game this past weekend. Uh, but they really couldn't

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<v Speaker 4>stop Bucky Irving. Um, and, but they haven't been able

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<v Speaker 4>to stop the run in a while. Um, I think they,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, not having Phillips, not, uh, certainly hurt i

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<v Speaker 4>don't know that it hurts the run game but it

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<v Speaker 4>just hurts your own world defense.

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely i think he's the best run playing edge not

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<v Speaker 1>to mention the corners right um we're targeted we're targeted

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<v Speaker 1>and you lose two great tackling corners so and nick

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<v Speaker 1>scorton nick scorton's a great run defender i mean i

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<v Speaker 1>know that's old news oh man.

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<v Speaker 4>A lot of personnel issues they have.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay let's uh um Mack Gold. What the hell am

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<v Speaker 2>I talking about? Adam Gold is with us here on

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<v Speaker 2>the Mack.

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<v Speaker 4>I remind you of an old you.

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<v Speaker 2>A hairless me. Adam Gold, apparently.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. Adam Gold is with us. Let's talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the big news in Raleigh. Dave Doran fired after the

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<v Speaker 1>Stanford loss. Now Philip Rivers is seen as this hot candidate.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you feel about the firing being done in season?

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<v Speaker 1>And then, and Rivers as a candidate.

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<v Speaker 4>I think the firing, even though it's out of character

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<v Speaker 4>for state, I don't know, can't remember them ever doing

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<v Speaker 4>it since I've been here. I think it had to

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<v Speaker 4>happen just because it was too toxic. And it's one

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<v Speaker 4>of those things that, I mean, they could have let

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<v Speaker 4>it go to the end of the year. Wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 4>really impacted anything significant, but it's one of those things

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<v Speaker 4>where And I've said this before. I kind of wish

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<v Speaker 4>that Dave would have retired like a couple of years ago.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I keep saying that there's two different parallel conversations.

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<v Speaker 4>There's the conversation about the program, which I think is outstanding.

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<v Speaker 4>And then there's the conversation about why can't Dave get

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<v Speaker 4>the most out of any individual season? Why is there

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<v Speaker 4>always meat left on the bones? for a particular season.

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<v Speaker 4>And for instance, this year, look, there's no business losing

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<v Speaker 4>to Stanford if you're NC State, none, but they did.

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<v Speaker 4>The way you lost to Vanderbilt, it's really unacceptable. So

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<v Speaker 4>what are they, three and four? I mean, at the

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<v Speaker 4>very least, they should be Four and three, if you

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<v Speaker 4>say they beat Vanderbilt, but maybe don't beat Louisville. So,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, at the very least, they should be four

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<v Speaker 4>and three. but probably five and two. And we're not

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<v Speaker 4>having this conversation, right? Because the program has been so

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<v Speaker 4>good and so consistent. State fans will argue with me

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<v Speaker 4>all day long. You can't find a 10 year run

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<v Speaker 4>before this year that has a better outcome than over

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<v Speaker 4>a 10 year period. You can't find it. Certainly not

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<v Speaker 4>with one coach. Doran has really laid the foundation for

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<v Speaker 4>somebody else to take it to the next step. In

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<v Speaker 4>some ways, he's like David Cutcliffe at Duke. And that

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<v Speaker 4>at the end, it became apparent that David couldn't get

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<v Speaker 4>them to the next step if they wanted to take

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<v Speaker 4>another step. And they obviously did because that's what success does.

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<v Speaker 4>It makes you want more success. Dorn had basically cranked

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<v Speaker 4>out eight win seasons over and over and over and

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<v Speaker 4>over and over again. Sometimes there was a nine. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 4>there was a seven. There was an occasional bad. But

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<v Speaker 4>that's basically what they had become. And now you want more.

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<v Speaker 4>And I get it. Totally get it. Dave couldn't do that.

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<v Speaker 4>I wish he had retired a couple of years ago

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<v Speaker 4>and let somebody else. Then he'd be a hero. and

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<v Speaker 4>now he's just another fired coach. Although I give him

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of credit. Today he's going to do a

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<v Speaker 4>Zoom at 4 o'clock.

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<v Speaker 2>Much credit to him for that. That's awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you think of him talking before Boo talks?

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<v Speaker 3>What's that say about the future of Boo as the

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<v Speaker 3>AD at NC State?

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<v Speaker 4>I hadn't really thought about it in those terms. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not sure NC State has had– I like Boo personally.

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<v Speaker 4>I really do. I'm not sure they have had very

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<v Speaker 4>many strong ADs since I've been here. I mean, Lee

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<v Speaker 4>Fowler was fine. And I mean, state fans probably hate him,

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<v Speaker 4>but he's fine. But I wouldn't call him a strong voice.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I thought North Carolina had, even though one

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<v Speaker 4>of them was Dick Bedore, he was more of a

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<v Speaker 4>money guy. than anything else. I think Bubba Cunningham was

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<v Speaker 4>an outstanding director of athletics. Uh, but these things, these

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<v Speaker 4>programs now are run by the boosters. And I think

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<v Speaker 4>the boosters are running NC state, uh, just like the

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<v Speaker 4>boosters are running UNC. Um, That's just the way it's gone.

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<v Speaker 4>The money is running these programs.

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<v Speaker 1>And they always had power, but I'll be damned, they've

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<v Speaker 1>never had this sort of power where they need them

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<v Speaker 1>constantly to get players. Goldie, you are the man, brother.

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<v Speaker 1>You brought it, baby. We appreciate you, man.

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<v Speaker 4>You got it. I'm going to go take my shirt off.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go, baby. I'm going to put mine on.

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<v Speaker 2>Please do. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, nice. That's a vision I will have next.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, yeah. And you know what, Bo?

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<v Speaker 1>Put your pants on, too, while you're at it. What's

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<v Speaker 1>going on with you today? I will in time.

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<v Speaker 4>Go put your eagle costume on.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Goldie. Goldie, I have a pirate costume, but I.

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<v Speaker 4>I know you do.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't use it yet. One of these games, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>beat Baker again.

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<v Speaker 4>We're the village people.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, man.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't really know what to do for Thursday. Just

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<v Speaker 3>a big old piece of cheese, I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>We should go out Saturday night, Bone, and just dress

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<v Speaker 1>up in all your different costumes as a group, man.

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<v Speaker 2>Make use of them. I've got more than you know.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Goldie. Thank you, brother. Later, fellas.