1 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 1: For four years, he gets for four years. 2 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 2: I've had this cigar in my humanor. I have a 3 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 2: couple of camachos in my humid or, have some triple 4 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 2: maduros in there. I have some barrel aid Nicaragua's in there. 5 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: I don't even remember. I don't remember getting them, but 6 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: I think it's been like four years. Are you're testing 7 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: three years? Eight months? See drink smoke. 8 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz and that's America's favorite amateur drinker fingers, 9 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 2: But boy, we are smoking the camacho corojo. Now, a 10 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 2: corojo is not easy easy tobacco, right, So coroho originates. 11 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:50,520 Speaker 2: It developed in Cuba, but it can get really diseased, 12 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 2: really rotted, really quick. 13 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: So it grows in other areas. 14 00:00:55,560 --> 00:01:00,080 Speaker 2: Mainly this grows in Honduras, although I believe there are 15 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 2: a strain that is grown in Western Kentucky. 16 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:04,759 Speaker 1: I don't know why. I don't know what. 17 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 2: Honduras in Western Kentucky have in common, but that's the 18 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 2: way it goes. It's it's it's oily, it's some would 19 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 2: argue it's a touch red. I don't know if this 20 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 2: one specifically is, but that brown has a little bit 21 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 2: of saddle color to it, and I think that's where 22 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 2: you can kind of get the redness from. And people 23 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 2: utilize Croho and a lot of different cigars, but usually 24 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 2: as just a binder or a filler sometimes I should 25 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 2: say usually it's a rapper, sometimes a binder or or 26 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 2: or a filler. Using it for all three is not 27 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 2: the every day whatsoever. But I had the cigars, and 28 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 2: sometimes you will bought cigars and. 29 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 1: You'll forget you have them. You gotta go through your 30 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: human or. 31 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 2: We were just having this conversation Fingers Maloy and I 32 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 2: because he hadn't gone through his humidor in a while, 33 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 2: and he came across some cigars. He's like, I forgot 34 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 2: I had it, and then. 35 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: A rapper was cracked. Yeah, I have to do a 36 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: better job of rotating my cigars, which you said you 37 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: rotate yours every three weeks. Yeah. 38 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 2: I like to get my cigars rotated by a professional 39 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 2: who I bring in and rotates my cigars every. 40 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: Month to six weeks. 41 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 2: I'm moving the cigars around, so I have a refrigerated 42 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 2: I have a refrigerator of cigars. 43 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:21,519 Speaker 1: It holds three thousand, and I move things on shelves. 44 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 2: I literally move everything from shelf to shelf and move 45 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 2: it around because I have found, like you'll find with 46 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 2: your hut or in certain weather certain things, some spots 47 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 2: get more moist than others. It's like the hotspot in 48 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 2: your oven. Yeah, and I find that that's absolutely true 49 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 2: with how the air flows on this. But I've gotten 50 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 2: much better at managing it, which I have not replaced 51 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 2: the water supply in there in months, really just recycling 52 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 2: through and recycling through. 53 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 1: Now maybe I should. 54 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 2: I gotta find out I need to drain it all 55 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 2: out and get some pressure water in there. But it's 56 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 2: all everything's smoking well, working well. I'm adjusting to the 57 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 2: temperatures properly, which is gonna be a whole other thing 58 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 2: with your human because we're getting into spring, you've got 59 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 2: more humidity. You don't have that heat blasting on it, 60 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 2: so you got to make sure you're temperature working properly. 61 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 2: A whole bunch of stuff happens once you change the temperatures. 62 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 2: It's like the winter and summer blend of gas. 63 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: Yes, I have a humid or similar tiars on a 64 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 1: much smaller scale. It Mine holds probably anywhere from maybe 65 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 1: one seventy five to two hundred and fifty cigars. It's 66 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 1: a lot of cigars, yes it is. But the one 67 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: thing that I was really impressed with, based on my 68 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: experience with my previous humidors, is that seal that goes 69 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: around the door is so much more effective to where 70 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: I don't have to battle my humidity levels in the 71 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: winter like I would with my other humid oors. And 72 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: the issue there when you have an electrified humid or. 73 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 2: Is that the seal is so good, you don't get 74 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 2: any airflow like you would from a traditional humid or seater. 75 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: Right, the seal could be great, but there's still some movement. 76 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 2: When you don't have that movement that creates issues of 77 00:03:57,560 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 2: its own. And so if you have a refrigerated humid or, 78 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 2: open it up every now and again, just give it 79 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 2: thirty seconds of just getting some air through and letting 80 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 2: it letting it work itself out. 81 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: But let's talk about this the camacho here first. It 82 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: is a pretty cigar. 83 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 2: I like this brown. It's it's uh, it looks like 84 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 2: a good brown leather. It has a touch of saddle 85 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 2: to it. I'm gonna say very slight in any level 86 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 2: of red coloration. But the oiliness four years I'm pretty 87 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 2: sure it's four years that this has been in the 88 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 2: human Let me double check myself. 89 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going I'm going. 90 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 2: With that three years, seven months. You said eight months earlier, 91 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 2: and it's still has held. It's still Camacho does a 92 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 2: very nice job with the with the construction for sure. 93 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: Uh. And we have just lit this up. Fingers you 94 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: you've been puffing a little bit more than I. What's 95 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: say you, fingers Ratio maloy. Well, first of all, the 96 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 1: hand feels fantastic, too right, it feels the right, right, 97 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 1: doesn't feel too light, which we call with a ball bat. 98 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if this is necessarily beefy when we 99 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:00,840 Speaker 1: feel there's a bit of f to it, but it's 100 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 1: a good handski. No, it is very uh little red 101 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: riding hood, it's just right. 102 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 2: Ah, we've invented another term, free drink smoke. 103 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 1: Look at us. The dictionary grows to three. I'm just 104 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: into the first third of the first third of the cigar, 105 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 1: and right away I got a little bit of a 106 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: pepper note and some wood, and there's a maybe a 107 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 1: slight nutty sweetness. There's a sweetness I can't quite put 108 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: my finger on, but it may be the two Crispy 109 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: creams that I had on my way to the studio. 110 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: That is not true. Oh you're right, I'm making up stories. 111 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 1: I would never stop really, of course they were right 112 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: there next to my gas station. Fine today, good lord, 113 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: we're all going to die today. 114 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 2: Uh you want to pull out your notebooks? What did 115 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 2: you eat today? What did you drink today? Everything? All 116 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 2: that affects your palate. The weather affects your palate. And 117 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 2: it's been super cold, it's been crazy hot, it's been stormy, 118 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 2: it's been pleasant. Indianapolis, Indiana, where we come from, has 119 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 2: been ridiculous with the weather. Nice day today, Nice pleasant 120 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 2: day today. But what'd you eat today? 121 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:13,679 Speaker 1: What did you drink today? The weather? 122 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 2: And then take the cigar and break it up at 123 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 2: the thirds in your mind first, third, second, third, final 124 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 2: third boom boom boom, and then write down your flavors 125 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 2: in your notebook, any notebook will do. What are you 126 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 2: getting out of it, no matter how weird or how 127 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 2: base those conversations are. 128 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: And with that you write that down. 129 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 2: And then when you have that cigar a month from now, 130 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 2: six months from now, whatever it is, you go back 131 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 2: check your notes right find out you write your notes again, 132 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 2: you check your notes together. 133 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 1: That's you do line what it was that you got 134 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:46,679 Speaker 1: out of that cigar? So what is your opinion? You're 135 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: having a hard time getting that thing lit? 136 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 2: It was just me right now because I didn't I 137 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 2: didn't give it enough love right from the right from 138 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 2: the beginning. 139 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 1: But I did light it up. This is spicier than 140 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 1: I remember. I will admit. 141 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 2: When I say I've had this cigar for four years, 142 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 2: I think the last time I had a camacho was 143 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 2: four years ago. Really, it's just there's so many things 144 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 2: that we smoke, so many things that I naturally gravitate to. 145 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 2: It's just wasn't this is not it. I'm not angry, 146 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 2: but it's just not what I normally go to. 147 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: Do you find that as we do the show that 148 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: you need to reevaluate some of the brands that you 149 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: have had in the past. Not so much that you 150 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: smoke the same ones over and over again, but maybe 151 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: that it's a little bit too much of a comfort 152 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: zone and you need to branch out a little bit. 153 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 2: No, I like being very comfortable. As a matter of fact, 154 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 2: from now on, I do this show without pants. I 155 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 2: think it's important to try new things. I think it's 156 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 2: important to remind yourself, Hey, go out there and try things. 157 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 2: But that's what part of the pleasure of this is 158 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 2: that I get to utilize the show to do that, 159 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 2: which allows me in my more daily life to do 160 00:07:58,600 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 2: the things that I want to do. 161 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: I've already found we're nearing six years on this show. 162 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: We have smoked. 163 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 2: I did the math forty two million cigars is that 164 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 2: a fact? And seven forty two million and seven cigars. 165 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 2: So like, I feel like I've tried a lot of stuff, 166 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 2: and still there's so many brands we haven't gotten to, 167 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 2: we haven't dug into. We've only done one of we 168 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 2: haven't done five of there's a bunch of those. 169 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: I think we're coming up on seven years. What didn't 170 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: start in twenty nineteen. Oh my god, it is seven years. 171 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: You would think we would be bigger. Some days it 172 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:34,559 Speaker 1: feels like seven years. 173 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 2: Truly truly does, truly does overnight success. So fingers the 174 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 2: loy I found a way to make frozen burger patties 175 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 2: Field Gourmet. 176 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 1: Ooh, I don't know if I did, but the takeout 177 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,439 Speaker 1: claim that they'll be corme if you try their little 178 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: method see. 179 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 2: Drink smell Com Tony Kats and that's Fingers molloy the 180 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 2: takeout dot com. 181 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 1: It is a website. 182 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 2: According to them, it's the key to taking a frozen 183 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 2: patty and making it great is. 184 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: A simple glaze. A simple glaze like a ham. Yeah. 185 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:29,439 Speaker 2: So basically what they are suggesting is, if you want 186 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:30,479 Speaker 2: your frozen. 187 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: Burger to taste delicious, add sugar. I hold on, fingers, 188 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: How am I going to argue against this? You know 189 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 1: I have a love of sugar and glazes. Yes, right, 190 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: mix it with beef. Now before you poo poo, Tony, 191 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: I did that before the show. What is one of 192 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: the three ingredients you put in your rub for your brisket? Oh? 193 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 2: I do put brown sugar in there. But it's not 194 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 2: But this is not This is not new. 195 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: This is not a simple trick. I don't know if 196 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:12,079 Speaker 1: they're saying brand new Discovery. 197 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 2: Give frozen burger patties a gourmet flavor with one simple trick. 198 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: Okay, but they're not saying brand new, no amazing product. 199 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 2: They're not doing that, right, So I'm just saying glazes 200 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 2: will work. They recommend barbecue sauce with vinegar and hot 201 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 2: sauce soy sauce, ginger and honey or butter enhanced with 202 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 2: Worcestershire sauce and Dijon mustard. 203 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:35,239 Speaker 1: There they're really talking about, not even just sweetness. 204 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 2: They really get into an idea of umami, which is right, umammy, 205 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 2: which is the idea of how would you describe it? 206 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: Like the idea of sensory? Right? 207 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 2: And the reason I bring it up is because the 208 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 2: bourbon today, which is not bourbon, it's whiskey, weirdest thing 209 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 2: I have ever come across. It was meant to pair 210 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 2: with Japanese pork and fish dishes that have a deep. 211 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: Broth also called umami. But that but that's just it. 212 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 2: It's that savoriness, it's that that feeling, that's umammy. 213 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: I don't know how I feel about the idea of 214 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 1: adding ginger to your ground beef. I guess it depends 215 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: on but you're not adding it to the ground glaze. 216 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: Ginger glaze. It doesn't have to be much. Ginger can 217 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 1: go far. Yeah, too far? Oh agreed, It doesn't take much, 218 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 1: is what I started with. 219 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:35,839 Speaker 2: Look at you, I can't remember you. 220 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: You like yours with lettuce and tomato Heinz fifty seven 221 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: and French fried potato. You went full Jimmy Buffett on 222 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: me dearly passed away? Right? What? Oh? Yeah, yeah, I 223 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 1: don't read the papers. But there's no mention of ginger 224 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: in that conversation. But fine, you can use ginger though. 225 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: That's not the point. I know, this isn't this isn't 226 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: Cuba good point. 227 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 2: But when you do a burger, do you season the 228 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 2: meat and then make the patty or do you make 229 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 2: the patty and the season the meat. I season the meat. Yes, 230 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 2: you're doing it wrong now, I full disclosure. I always 231 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 2: season the meat, mixed it up, and then did the burger. 232 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: Then. 233 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 2: I don't know if it was Bobby Flay or one 234 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 2: of those guys, because there are very few of those 235 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 2: guys that I really really trust, like when they're cooking 236 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 2: them like they're special. Bobby Flay is one of those dudes. 237 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 2: I mean, you can't be that proficient. It's just nuts. 238 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: It's surreal, but at what he's proficient at. And it 239 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: was a conversation. Maybe it was him. 240 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 2: Maybe it was that guy who's on Facebook loft Bob Morano, 241 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:56,559 Speaker 2: who I think is really good, bald guy. Uh, he's dude, 242 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 2: follow his videos so so good. The recipes are great, 243 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 2: the presentation is terrific. And they said to salt after 244 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,599 Speaker 2: the patty first, then salt. 245 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: And pepper when you take it off the grill. No, 246 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:13,959 Speaker 1: before it goes on the grill, before it goes on 247 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: the grill. Oh okay, So you make the patty, then 248 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: you put the seasoning on. Okay, and it's better. It 249 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:23,679 Speaker 1: is just better. Did they mention sprinkling ginger o? No, no, 250 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 1: but I would do that. 251 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, I don't know if we have time, because Finger 252 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 2: says to me just before we're about to start. 253 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:36,199 Speaker 1: Uh, yeah, I got a problem with the neighbors. I 254 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: said it like that. Do you want to do this now? 255 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: Do we have enough time? Because we have a hard 256 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 1: to it. We have enough time? Okay. So it's a 257 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: very active neighborhood and people are walking all the time, 258 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 1: constant foot traffic all the place, which I have a problem. 259 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: I hate it when people stay healthy. No, well, wait 260 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: for a second, tell me if I'm overreacting. A lot 261 00:13:56,520 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: of dog walkers, okay, A lot of dog walkers walking 262 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 1: on the sidewalk through my yard, A lot of dog 263 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:11,839 Speaker 1: walkers letting their dog pee on my mailbox post okay, 264 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 1: and it's not just one, it's several dogs and their owners. 265 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: The owners refrained from peeing on the post, but the 266 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: dogs they stop. It's like they encourage the dogs to 267 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 1: pee on my mailbox posts in front of me. You know, 268 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: I'm not naive enough to think that if you know, 269 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 1: these things don't go on while to stop. Yeah, exactly. 270 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: Now am I being unreasonable thinking to myself? You know 271 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: this isn't cool, man? Is it discoloring the post? No? 272 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: The post right now is all chewed up from the 273 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: lawn service that uses their weed whackers around. But so 274 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: am I being unreasonable? That's a great question right in 275 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: front of me. Yeah, that's a great, great, great, great question. 276 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 2: Part of me would not care at all. You know, 277 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 2: people walk their dogs here. You know, I live in 278 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 2: a very lavish community with many with many gates and guards. 279 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 1: The rose garden is fantastic. Thank you, thank you, thank 280 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: you so much. 281 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 2: So I was gonna tell a joke and then realize 282 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 2: that what's gonna get me thrown off the air. 283 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: That would be the last Tetrick smoke. 284 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 2: I don't know if you heard it happen where I 285 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 2: thought of the joke, loved the joke, and it said, 286 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 2: don't do the joke all the span of one second. 287 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 2: Tell me that off there, but I would I would 288 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 2: agree that that would. 289 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: Be it would be rude. And so the only thing 290 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 1: I can think. 291 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 2: Of is around the mailbox, broken charge of glass. 292 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: Thank you, That's what I said. Missus Malloy's like, oh, 293 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 1: you don't want arm the dog. Guys like that's the 294 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: only way they're going to learn. 295 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 2: We no, no, no, for the people. For the people, 296 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 2: I don't want to harm the dog. What did the 297 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 2: dog do wrong? Dog didn't do anything wrong. Dog's doing what? 298 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 2: Dogs dotting those people along on a lease? No, no, no, 299 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 2: the people you said are encouraging, and for the encouragement, 300 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 2: broken shards of glass. 301 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: That's fair enough. And by the way, I hope that 302 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: drink smoke Nation knows I would never harm a dog 303 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: with glass. Wow. I wouldn't harm a dog. 304 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 2: I just want you to know the joke I refrained 305 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 2: from not as bad as what Fingers just said. Not 306 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 2: in the slightest. Pets are lovely for other people. And 307 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 2: part of the reason I don't have pets is I 308 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 2: don't want to walk a dog. I don't want any 309 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 2: part of that whatsoever. I think that I don't think 310 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 2: it would bother me that much. If there is a discoloration, 311 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 2: then it's a sign, please don't let your dog on 312 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 2: this post. 313 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: Thank you. Right. 314 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 2: If there were lawn issues, then you'd have to say something. 315 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 2: But they clean up the other stuff, right. 316 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: As far as I know, I don't owe my own law. 317 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,400 Speaker 1: And Tony yeah, and I'm the elitist. 318 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 2: All I know is I start finding that on the lawn, 319 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 2: it's it's it's land mines, like it's the DMZ between 320 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 2: North and South Korea. 321 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hard to tell. We get geese and the 322 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: oh my goodness, they leave them back. These are crazy. Yes, 323 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 1: these are the nuts, eat, drink, smoke. It is your cigar, bourbon, 324 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 1: foody extravaganza. 325 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katz And that right there is America's favorite 326 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 2: amateur drinker. Fingers Maloy the camacho corojo. We're doing the toro. 327 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 2: You know what I realized We started talking about the corojo, 328 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 2: and I never said we were doing a toro, which 329 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 2: is a six by fifty, which means it is six 330 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:52,439 Speaker 2: inches long. Tea always makes Fingers Billy laugh. And the 331 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 2: ring age of fifty the diameter of the cigar or 332 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 2: how thick it is around again. 333 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 1: You know it is not laughable though, what joking about 334 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 1: harming animals? Correct? Is there anything you'd like to add 335 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 1: to that? Well? I got a cern email over the 336 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 1: break from the ASPCA, right, yeah, to remind everyone that 337 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 1: it is not funny to even joke about harming an animal, 338 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: and in no way was I serious. 339 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 2: Also, have your pet spader neuter there it is, which 340 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 2: is totally harming an animal. 341 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: Where can everyone get in touch with you on the 342 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 1: you want to get the freak on. I think Bob 343 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: Barker was wrong, That's all I'm saying. You should write 344 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: him a letter and tell him that you don't want 345 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:34,360 Speaker 1: to know what happened. 346 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 2: For the record, of course, he's right, But I'm just saying, 347 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 2: you are, you are, You're doing something to the animal. 348 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: Sure, so the animal can't do something anymore, right exactly. 349 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 1: I'm just saying. 350 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 2: That's why I stick the cigars the bourbon because the 351 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 2: show just got awkward. 352 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:59,400 Speaker 1: This is the Kamacho Coroho Toro, the six by fifty. 353 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 2: It's also of a box press oh right here, And 354 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 2: you know we talked about what we're getting out of 355 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:08,880 Speaker 2: the cigar and coroha and utilizing it for all three. Right, 356 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 2: the wrapper of the binder and the filler is not 357 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:14,880 Speaker 2: a normal thing handmade in Honduras. It is not an 358 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 2: overwhelming spice, but it is really, really there and a 359 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 2: couple of different degrees of peppers is what I would say. 360 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 2: I can't tell anybody that this is my flavor profile, right, 361 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 2: this is where I live and breathe. 362 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: But you had mentioned is there a little bit of 363 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 1: nutty on here? Yes? 364 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 2: I don't know how to do. I can't grab what 365 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 2: it is. Sometimes I can talk about almonds. Sometimes I 366 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 2: can talk about like a nutty creaminess, right, like when 367 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 2: you're if you have a handful of cashews, let's say, 368 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 2: and you chew on them, it gets that like tasty 369 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 2: kind of consistency that flavor. 370 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 1: I happen to love that and I look for that. 371 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 1: That's something more. 372 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 2: It's not that. But if you, if you asked me, 373 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,120 Speaker 2: could I believe it? The answer is yes, Yeah. 374 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 1: There's like some sort of sweetness, a light sweetness that 375 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: I was leaning towards, like a nutty sweetness along with 376 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,679 Speaker 1: wood and that spice you were talking about. That spice. 377 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 1: For me, I'm quite a bit further into the cigar 378 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 1: than you are. I'm in the second third. 379 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:23,679 Speaker 2: In the In the recording, we had to take a 380 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 2: rather large break and I had to go do something 381 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 2: and fingers was left to a beautiful day outdoors and 382 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 2: a cigar, and well, so it goes. But I the sweetness. 383 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 2: At Famous Smoke, Famous dash smoke dot Com, they argue, 384 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 2: it's actually the tobacco. Okay, very often we talk about 385 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 2: something mean tobacco forward, we're talking about the richness and 386 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 2: involved right that that that beautiful tobacco flavor. I don't 387 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 2: often think of it as sweet tobacco, but I guess 388 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 2: one could. So I think, whatever that sweetness is, you're 389 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 2: just getting in an overarching sense. 390 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: I could see that. I could totally see that. 391 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 2: But the question is, is this in your humid or 392 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 2: at nine dollars and eighty cents a stick. Yeah, it's 393 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 2: in someone's humid or for nine dollars. 394 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: It's not. It's not. That's that's the only issue. It's not. 395 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 1: But if you like a bit of because it's a 396 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 1: bit of black pepper, it's not white. White pepper to 397 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 1: me is bright, bounces off the top of the palette. 398 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: Black pepper is that standard pepper, red peppers. 399 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 2: When you get a little bit of kind of like that, 400 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 2: that little bit of deeper sensation on the tongue, that's 401 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:29,919 Speaker 2: where I am. I'm in black and red pepper in 402 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 2: this not where I live, but I can appreciate that 403 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 2: other people do, especially for hundred ten dollars a stick. 404 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, look this has been in your humidor and 405 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 1: how for three years and eight months? I said four years. 406 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 2: But you were able to suss out through just a 407 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 2: simple puff. Yes, right, the the some people do carbon dating, 408 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 2: Fingers does tobacco dating. 409 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 1: That's true. I took three puffs and I did what 410 00:21:56,160 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: was called the Hardy Boys method. All right, huh you 411 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: thought about it? You look tough at the sky. Three years, 412 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 1: eight months, eight months, nice nice stick. 413 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 2: And I could see where a lot of people would 414 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 2: be like, this is something for me, low costs. 415 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: I could see where a lot of people could be like, yeah, 416 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 1: this is in my humored ar. But it's time Fingers 417 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: boy for news of the week. So, Tony, we've kind 418 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: of been avoiding this subject, and it only has to 419 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 1: do with logistics of how we do this show. You 420 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 1: mentioned earlier that we record the show for broadcast later 421 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:37,680 Speaker 1: and developments between the United States and Iran. Everything changes 422 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: so quickly that it's really hard to comment on what's 423 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 1: going on over there. But you know, as we're talking 424 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:47,160 Speaker 1: right now, an Iranian minister said they have no intention 425 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: of negotiating for now as the US insists that war 426 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: goals are almost met. Yeah. I feel like we should 427 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 1: touch on this though, because it's like it's kind of 428 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: a big deal that people are talking about in the 429 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 1: scar lounge, But it's just hard to really dig deep 430 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,959 Speaker 1: into it because things can change twelve times between them. 431 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 2: And part of the issue is is that we spend 432 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 2: so much time on EA drink smoke, not being political. 433 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 2: We both come from a political backgrounds, political radio and 434 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 2: what you do on weekends there wam talking in the 435 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 2: Detroit area and what I do with my morning show 436 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 2: in Indianapolis and nationally syndicated midday. So to address this 437 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:29,919 Speaker 2: non politically, let us try our best. There is no 438 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 2: Iranian leadership right now, but there is still something called 439 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 2: the IRGC, the Islamic Revolutionary Guardcore, And because there is, 440 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 2: you still have a total oppression of the people. They 441 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 2: actually fire at people throughout the nights keep them from 442 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 2: engaging in protests. They are still set up at levels 443 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 2: of missile launchers mobile missile launchers, which are not the 444 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,919 Speaker 2: easiest thing to find, even though the United States and 445 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 2: Israel have knocked out a tremendous amount of their capacity 446 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 2: and really have deility disabled their entire navy. So they're 447 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:01,479 Speaker 2: still able to drop bombs, of fly drones, do some 448 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 2: things that create a damage. 449 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,919 Speaker 1: You have the IRGC still able to terrorize the people. 450 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 2: But in terms of leadership, allegedly we're now down to 451 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:14,640 Speaker 2: talking to the Speaker of the Parliament of Iran, who 452 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 2: is They call them a hardliner but a pragmatist, which 453 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 2: means I don't mind killing the people of Iran, but 454 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 2: also I love puppies. 455 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 1: It's a very weird, weird thing. I think that more 456 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: than anything. And this is where I am. 457 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 2: And this could all change between the time we're talking 458 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 2: and what you see when you hear the show. There's 459 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 2: a tremendous amount of misdirection going on from everybody. So 460 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 2: there was this allegation the Iranians said, we don't agree 461 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 2: to any part of this fifteen point plan, and the 462 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 2: response from carolineleve Att the White House. 463 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: Press secretary was like, what fifteen point plan? So that's 464 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: just it. There's misdirectional around and I think. 465 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 2: For a lot of people this is really the first 466 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 2: time they've seen it. You have to go back really 467 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 2: to World War two, good ideas of misdirection and what 468 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 2: D Day. 469 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: Was going to be and things like that. This is 470 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: all sun sou right. 471 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 2: The art of war well, you know, warfare is the 472 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 2: art of deception. It is about trying to make your 473 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:13,919 Speaker 2: enemy think you're doing one thing and then you do 474 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 2: another thing. But if we're going to get into what 475 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 2: the goal is, what it means to end this thing, 476 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 2: there are places where I split with this administration deeply 477 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,160 Speaker 2: on the idea of what that is. Do you think 478 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 2: they're looking for the exit? Do you think that's what 479 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 2: Trump and team are looking for? 480 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: I think that publicly that is what they're trying to convey, 481 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: is that they want this to end as soon as possible. 482 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 1: But what does ending it? What's the end mean? I mean, 483 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: is it full regime change? I think that there were 484 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 1: whispers from the administration the other day that that was 485 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 1: the goal, and I think it's the first time we've 486 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: actually heard actual regime change as one of the goals. 487 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: But for the most part you sit back and you say, well, 488 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: they have really weakened the infrastructure there, or they clearly 489 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: they have taken out leadership. But that regime is so 490 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: entrenched that and there's so much pressure on that regime 491 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: to stay in power because if they don't stay in power, 492 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,400 Speaker 1: the ones who are left over, they're dead. They will 493 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: be That. 494 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 2: Is, by the way, that's the absolutely correct assessment. I 495 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 2: don't think people understand that the IERGC has to stay 496 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 2: around or if they can't escape, they will get killed 497 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 2: by the people ten thousand percent. I am somebody who 498 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 2: favors full on regime change, and you can send me 499 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 2: emails if you want. 500 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,160 Speaker 1: If we disagree about it, it's fine. 501 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 2: I think what the administration has tried to set up 502 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 2: is the idea of ending their nuclear capability. They can't 503 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 2: have a nuclear weapon, no nuclear weapons, no long range missiles, 504 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 2: these twenty five hundred miles of things that can hit 505 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 2: the Diego Garcia base or hit the whole of Europe. 506 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 2: I wonder whether regime change is really in their view. 507 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 2: And if that's the case, that only happens if you 508 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:57,880 Speaker 2: break the IERGC. 509 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 1: It's the only way it happens, So. 510 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 2: A lot can happen between the time we're speaking now 511 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 2: and the events of the weekend. 512 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 1: Just want to make sure we touched on it. You 513 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 1: were right to talk about it. 514 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:18,400 Speaker 2: Big SIPs, Yes, that's brand and Fingers Maloy is now 515 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 2: going to. 516 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 1: Force me to drink it. You know why? Tell us 517 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 1: why Fingers Maloy? Because it's time for another gas station? Fine, Yeah, 518 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 1: deemed by Philip Glass see drinke smoke. I can't believe 519 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 1: I still laugh at that. I'm Tony Katz. 520 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 2: That's fingers Maloy, and fingers Maloy, if you did not know, 521 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:42,399 Speaker 2: spends a lot of time procuring his meals from gas stations, 522 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,400 Speaker 2: that and vending machines. It has become an art form 523 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 2: for Fingers Maloy. And he came across as he was 524 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:56,400 Speaker 2: fueling up his hot rot, he came across this fantastic sensation, 525 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 2: this brand new drink sensation that is uh sweeping the nation. 526 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 2: This is Big SIPs Chocolate Chocolate Martini. 527 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 1: It says on the website chocolate Martini. It doesn't say 528 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:19,719 Speaker 1: anywhere on just as chocolate. Yeah, the lovely uh canish bottle. 529 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: It's plastic, but yet it's got a it's got a 530 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 1: lid like it's a can, it's got a pop top. 531 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:31,679 Speaker 2: So this company, by the way, actually won two challenges 532 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,159 Speaker 2: from Buzzball. You know Buzzball, which makes drinks just like that. 533 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 2: Buzzball suit them for copyright. Big Zips won twice against 534 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 2: these people. That is not easy to do. Good for 535 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 2: Big SIPs. So so where did you find this? Where 536 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 2: exactly are you? 537 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 1: I was on my way to eat Drink Smoke studios 538 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 1: and I said to myselfself, you need to stop and 539 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 1: get yourself a beverage for the show. And when I 540 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: walked in there, right by the beverages was a display 541 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 1: of Crispy That's a discussion for a different day. But 542 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 1: next to the Krispy Creams was a little cooler and 543 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 1: once again, just like a couple of weeks ago when 544 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 1: we did the smearingoff for it was shorties. I believe 545 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: they were called the shorts. 546 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 2: Just shorts, no shorties, maybe it shorty anyway. 547 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 1: Uh, these were in the refrigerator and they had several 548 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 1: flavors to choose from America. I almost got America because 549 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 1: it had a bald eagle on it, but I felt 550 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: that that looked like it was a similar flavor profile 551 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 1: to the Smeirinoff that we did a couple of weeks ago, 552 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 1: that blue raspberry citrusy drink that we both still have 553 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 1: nightmares about. True, But they also had a pina colada. 554 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 1: I almost grabbed the penia kilata. It would have gotten 555 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 1: lost in the rain. Though there it is, But I 556 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: was not sure of your thoughts on penia coladas. I 557 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 1: woul drink a piniaklata right now. How can we never 558 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 1: make me penia cladas. I don't make myself penia claudas. 559 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 1: Why would I? That's why? But a hard lemonade, lime margarita, 560 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 1: strawberry margarita, there are green apple, There are so many 561 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 1: flavors here, hard iced team. I thought it's myself. Can 562 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 1: they screw up chocolate? Is it possible? That's fine? Maybe? 563 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 2: Now they offer this in four sizes. Do you have 564 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 2: to shake that first? It doesn't say anything, but you 565 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 2: know why, I would give it a little shake. I'd 566 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 2: give it a little hot shot shot shake. Oh he's 567 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 2: doing it so gently. Now they've got the small ones, 568 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 2: which is the big zips cup. Then they've got like 569 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 2: the paper container like you would have a protein shake. 570 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 2: Then they have a larger one of that. Then you 571 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 2: can get in a gallon and they call that big 572 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 2: zips jugs jug z. 573 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 1: You get a jug. You just stumbled upon a little 574 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 1: bit of brilliance here. What for you soccer moms out 575 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 1: there who have to go to your soccer game in 576 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 1: the morning. You could pretend that this is a protein shake, 577 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: put it right in your little one of the those 578 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 1: glasses with the straws that they ever Stanley. Yeah, yeah, 579 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: you're like, this is my protein shake, Winky winky. 580 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 2: Or you could be a real woman and just bring 581 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 2: bourbon with a crazy straw to look at the other 582 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 2: moms and be like, what's your problem? That's that's the 583 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 2: mom I want to know. Did it just shoot all 584 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 2: over you? 585 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 1: Yes? Probably because I shook it? Well, you needed to 586 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 1: shake its carbonated? No, yeah, yeah, this made me Really 587 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 1: this may be carbonated, so I will pour a little 588 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: bit in my glass here. 589 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,760 Speaker 2: That's not carbonated. That's not carbonateing. There's no fizzy fizz. 590 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 2: By the way, I love the fact that this whole 591 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 2: thing costs you a buck. 592 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 1: Eighty and you bought one. You know you're sharing, We 593 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 1: are sharing the big sip. Well, first of all, it 594 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: costs three dollars. And second of all, I knew, what's 595 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 1: the point in buying two of these because we aren't 596 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: going to finish two. We're not going to finish one, 597 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 1: We're not gonna finish half of this. 598 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 2: I'm just saying, what's the point of a gas station 599 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 2: find if you don't waste your money? 600 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 1: It's not called gas station finds. It's called gas station finds. 601 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 1: It's gas station find No, it's much all right. 602 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 2: Uh, first, this has a little bit of the consistency 603 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 2: from the look of you. 604 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 1: Who yes, that is what it looks like. The smell 605 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 1: that's not bad. 606 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 2: There's nothing that's almost it's almost like a very very 607 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 2: light simple kolua. That's what it is. 608 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 1: Okay, there's nothing wrong with that. I thought it smelled 609 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 1: like gym sock. But okay, oh there's no, it doesn't. 610 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 1: It's totally fine. It doesn't. So far everything about this 611 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 1: is working for me. Okay, this is I go first, 612 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 1: you know what please do? 613 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 2: By the way, they've got the diamond flavor, the cherry 614 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 2: manifest uh, waterheads, warheads watermelon, and the green apple and 615 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 2: the hard iced tea. You you mentioned these flavors and 616 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 2: they do call it chocolate martini. And then they've got 617 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 2: the big zips murca pastrophe, M. 618 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 1: E R I c A. Do you listen to me? 619 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 1: I just and a half ago. 620 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I forgot already purple Punch by Waka Flakka. 621 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 1: You don't know who that is? Now all right, I'm 622 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 1: going and I saw them open for ongle boying, going 623 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 1: going in. This is the they say chocolate martini. 624 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 2: Yes, but uh but we don't say chi And this 625 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 2: is sixteen percent alcohol by volume thirty two proof you 626 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 2: can apply if you want. 627 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 1: I'm going in. Oh, this is exciting. He's going in 628 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen for his chocolatini. And what's the verdict. 629 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you can drink this. 630 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 2: Oh really, you're gonna get in all sorts of big zips, 631 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 2: big ups from big t It's up, son. 632 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 1: How you doing? How's your mother? Hot? Damn? Oh my. 633 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 2: Not white Russian, white Russian, white Russian white Russian. Yep, yes, yes, 634 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 2: all day, Yes, okay, I have some go in fingers. 635 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 2: Will Now, by the way, it's not chocolate martine, you 636 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 2: guys full of crap. That's white Russian. So what happens is. 637 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,360 Speaker 1: It starts off a little bit of chocolate sweet. 638 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 2: Then the alcohol hits right in the throat and you're like, 639 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:40,319 Speaker 2: what just happened to me? And then it gets a 640 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:47,359 Speaker 2: weird bit fudgie. Yeah, that that's good to your health, 641 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:48,279 Speaker 2: to your health. 642 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 1: There is first time ever we we we clinked. Yeah, 643 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,840 Speaker 1: and it's the first time in the while that you 644 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,239 Speaker 1: have enjoyed a gas station find. Oh, that's a that's 645 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 1: a winner. You could serve those at a party. There 646 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 1: he is, he's going, it's all good, it's all gone, 647 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 1: finish up. Do I have to do that? Now? Doctor? 648 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 1: Are you gonna do it? Are you all look at it? Wow? 649 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 1: You know it's a good gas station? Fine? What's the 650 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 1: calorie count? Really? That's what we're gonna go with. Let's 651 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,759 Speaker 1: see is it even on there? I don't know? Oh 652 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:26,360 Speaker 1: good lord. Can we get an eight year old in 653 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,919 Speaker 1: here who could read the print on this bottel? Oh? 654 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 1: It's it's always good when you talk about me. Let 655 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 1: me you want me to look, you want me to 656 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,320 Speaker 1: look look? Let me get the Oh. 657 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,879 Speaker 2: God, he's pulling out his phone so you can take 658 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:42,320 Speaker 2: a picture and. 659 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:43,880 Speaker 1: The Yeah, that's better. Oh my gosh, holy cow. We 660 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 1: shouldn't have drink. This was a government warning on here. 661 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 1: There's nothing on here, no nutritional information at all. That's crazy. 662 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 1: Oh serving size three, that's not true. That's not true. 663 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,359 Speaker 1: It's oh you know what, in very very fine print 664 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:03,920 Speaker 1: down here, shake well. 665 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you. Oh that is a winner. I 666 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,839 Speaker 2: can't guarantee they're all winners. But if you want a 667 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 2: sweet little dessert drink, just a little done and done. 668 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 1: I don't know what it is with some of these drinks. 669 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,319 Speaker 1: I feel like this is so good for the holidays. 670 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 1: You're right around you Christmas. If you're like, I'm not 671 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 1: gonna have a bourbon, but you got a fire and 672 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:30,319 Speaker 1: you're like, I want a little dessert drink. You know, 673 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 1: you know you're gonna have Marca this time of year. 674 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 1: But yeah, that's that's very good. 675 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 2: Three bucks, really really well done for short. It's sweet, 676 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,280 Speaker 2: but well done. Bravo with the the gas station, find 677 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 2: to Eat, drink, smoke. If you want a place to 678 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 2: order meat from that's gonna take perfect care of you. 679 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 2: That is defiancebeef dot Com. And the new deal is stupid. 680 00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 1: Now. 681 00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 2: I ordered my full cow. I heard him order the 682 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:03,759 Speaker 2: cow's huge. I ordered the full cow. I have it 683 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:07,799 Speaker 2: like in this cow amongst all the rabbis, all the tenderloins, 684 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,920 Speaker 2: the two full thirteen pound briskets that are coming. 685 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,839 Speaker 1: They're somewhere around three hundred pounds of ground beef coming 686 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 1: my way. And they said to you on the phone, 687 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 1: conservatively three hundred pounds. This happens to be a very 688 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 1: large cow. Like it is a very large. Some of 689 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,800 Speaker 1: them a little bit smaller. This one is huge. 690 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 2: And you can get yours quarter, half or full Indiana 691 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 2: raised everything aged twenty one days. The flavor is outstanding, 692 00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,920 Speaker 2: and then packed, frozen and sent to you right to 693 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,440 Speaker 2: your door, right into the chest freezer, and right now 694 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,799 Speaker 2: you get yourself a quarter or a half or a 695 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,320 Speaker 2: full cow. Not only will you get free shipping, which 696 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,959 Speaker 2: is nuts, you're gonna get a free mini share. 697 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,399 Speaker 1: And a mini share is. 698 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,279 Speaker 2: A mix of one inch thick steaks like Ribby's or 699 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:55,880 Speaker 2: t bones, a chuck. 700 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:56,719 Speaker 1: In arm or a surloin. 701 00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:00,360 Speaker 2: You're gonna get short ribs, cube steak, skirt steak, flying steak, 702 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:04,319 Speaker 2: and five pounds of ground beef added on to your order. 703 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,239 Speaker 1: Just use promo code, Eat, drink, smoke. 704 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,239 Speaker 2: Now is the time, guys, get ready for summer, Get 705 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:13,720 Speaker 2: ready for the grilling. Get yourself real beef, incredible flavor 706 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:17,239 Speaker 2: aged twenty one days from Indiana to you that you 707 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 2: can trust and you want to feed your family. 708 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,840 Speaker 1: Defiancebeef dot Com. 709 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,319 Speaker 2: You use promo code eat, drink, smoke, and you're not 710 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 2: only gonna get free shipping, you are going to get 711 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,319 Speaker 2: that mini beef share with all the good stuff and 712 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 2: you can you can give that stuff away or not. 713 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 1: It's your choice. Defiance beef dot Com. Where are we 714 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:37,879 Speaker 1: gonna go pick up your cow? We gotta go up there, 715 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 1: we gotta visit the guys. You want to go pick 716 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 1: it up on ourselves? Sure, just you and me. Yes, 717 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:45,960 Speaker 1: we'll get the flat beat out. Now. I can go 718 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 1: with that, Okay, I can work with that. 719 00:38:48,080 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 2: Defiancebeef dot Com. 720 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:06,160 Speaker 1: Try new things, he said, So I did. 721 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,879 Speaker 2: I don't know if I regret it yet, but man, 722 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,319 Speaker 2: do I love this bottle. It's eat drinks, smell come 723 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:17,160 Speaker 2: Tony Katz. That is America's favorite amateur drinker. Fingers molloy Uh. 724 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 2: Not a bourbon, but a whiskey, and a very odd 725 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 2: whiskey that is distilled unbottled locally. Corktown, Detroit, heck yeah, 726 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 2: home of. 727 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 1: The not winning the NFC Central Detroit LIONSFC Central talking 728 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 1: about Grandpa. It was like twenty some odd years ago, 729 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:47,520 Speaker 1: also known as your Heyday. That's true, fingers. Have you 730 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,040 Speaker 1: ever heard of two James Spirits? No? 731 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:55,320 Speaker 2: Okay, I had not either. I found this locally in 732 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:59,920 Speaker 2: a liquor store, local liquor store here in the Indianapolis area, 733 00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 2: and it was it was the only one. It was 734 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:07,560 Speaker 2: the only bottle. Literally has Detroit marked into the glass 735 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,360 Speaker 2: Corktown on the other side. 736 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:12,640 Speaker 1: Ever been to Corktown? I have never been to Corktown. 737 00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 1: Good good spot. Yes, party town where the old uh Now, 738 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,759 Speaker 1: people in Detroit are gonna gonna kill me for this. 739 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:25,000 Speaker 1: I believe that's where the old Tiger Stadium was. Corktown. Okay, 740 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:29,279 Speaker 1: I believe you. It was a Nemo's bar. No, I 741 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,520 Speaker 1: gotta google it. Love Corktown. You do that. 742 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:35,680 Speaker 2: I'll talk about this. This is a weird concoction. First 743 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,239 Speaker 2: of all, it is a whiskey, not a bourbon. I 744 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:43,480 Speaker 2: do not have a mash bill, right, It's a series 745 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,640 Speaker 2: of blended whiskies. And the reason there is no mash bill, 746 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 2: so you can't guarantee that's fifty one percent corn. If 747 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:53,160 Speaker 2: not fifty corn, it is not bourbon Is because this 748 00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:58,480 Speaker 2: Johnny Smoking Gun, that's the name of this whiskey. This 749 00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:11,239 Speaker 2: is a mix of whiskeys crafted specifically to compliment the umami. Again, 750 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,600 Speaker 2: we were talking about the umami, this idea of savoriness 751 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,960 Speaker 2: of the rich pork and fish bross of Japanese cuisine. 752 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:23,400 Speaker 2: I have no idea what that's supposed to me except 753 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:27,080 Speaker 2: what they do with this, how they work this. I 754 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:30,240 Speaker 2: want to make sure I've got this totally right, because 755 00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,080 Speaker 2: if you go to too James dot com, it tells 756 00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:37,120 Speaker 2: the story specifically crafted specifically to complement the umami flavors 757 00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:40,480 Speaker 2: of rich pork and fish bross in Japanese cuisine, possessing 758 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:45,400 Speaker 2: intriguing smoke character from two stage maceration that will surely 759 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:46,279 Speaker 2: not disappoint. 760 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,880 Speaker 1: It is infused with tea. 761 00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:55,040 Speaker 2: M There are as I have read, and I've been reading, 762 00:41:55,600 --> 00:42:00,640 Speaker 2: like three different kinds of tea. I believe it is 763 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:04,520 Speaker 2: that go into this Earl Gray Hot I honestly don't know. 764 00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,080 Speaker 2: I'm reading the rest of it. That they are located 765 00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:11,320 Speaker 2: in Corkdown, Detroit, first licensed discillary in Detroit, Sins Prohibition 766 00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,440 Speaker 2: they use locally sourced ingredients with the sole aim of 767 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,320 Speaker 2: revitalizing the community and reinforcing the craft product movement. 768 00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:19,879 Speaker 1: That's that's what they say right here. 769 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,720 Speaker 2: And it comes in at forty three point five percent 770 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,600 Speaker 2: alcohol by volume, wore eighty seven proof. No applause from 771 00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:29,879 Speaker 2: fingers from sorry right there? This is first of all, 772 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,240 Speaker 2: how awesome is that label? How beautiful is that bottle? 773 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,640 Speaker 2: It is beautiful and it has you know what good 774 00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:35,200 Speaker 2: hand feel? 775 00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,799 Speaker 1: It does? It truly does. And I can't believe I 776 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:43,239 Speaker 1: questioned my own knowledge about Detroit, Corktown, that's where the 777 00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,440 Speaker 1: old Tiger Stadium was, Michigan and Trumbull. I could tell 778 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,800 Speaker 1: you that, Oh yeah, I didn't know that was I 779 00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,640 Speaker 1: didn't remember it being in Corktown. But then Nemo's Bar 780 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:57,080 Speaker 1: right nearby too. Who hasn't been to Nemos? Do you 781 00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:58,600 Speaker 1: ever find it? Nemo? 782 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:06,120 Speaker 2: I've been to Nemo's Bar, found Memo just poured that 783 00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,440 Speaker 2: right in. It is a great looking label. It's not 784 00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:14,200 Speaker 2: an etched bottle, but there is some some great uh 785 00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:16,680 Speaker 2: relief of two faces. 786 00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:17,680 Speaker 1: Here on the bottle. 787 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:25,839 Speaker 2: That is James Landrum and James James Landrum. It's two 788 00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,680 Speaker 2: different landrums. Maybe the father and son. Maybe that's why 789 00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,480 Speaker 2: it's called two James spirits right there, fingers with why 790 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:35,640 Speaker 2: take a sniff? If you would take a snort right 791 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:39,080 Speaker 2: there and tell me what you're getting on the nose here? 792 00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:47,440 Speaker 1: Whoa? When is that? I what? What is that? Whoa? 793 00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,319 Speaker 1: All right? I don't think they were kidding. That is 794 00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:57,279 Speaker 1: weirdo smoky, get in a little bit and almost it's 795 00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,920 Speaker 1: got a little smoky, a little herbal and a little 796 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:00,680 Speaker 1: corn whiskey. 797 00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:04,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but you're right about the herbal, but I 798 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:07,719 Speaker 2: don't I'm not talking about I'm talking about herbs that 799 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:11,120 Speaker 2: like like really savory kind of stuff. 800 00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:17,839 Speaker 1: Holy cow. Oh alcohol ethanol on the nose? No, that 801 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,399 Speaker 1: is am I making that up? Have you ever had 802 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:24,680 Speaker 1: like just corn whiskey? Sure does have a little bit of. 803 00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:28,240 Speaker 2: That of that And so the smoke is so odd 804 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:32,239 Speaker 2: and so weird you would almost think it's pete on 805 00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:35,480 Speaker 2: a scotch. Yeah that oh by that. 806 00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:36,080 Speaker 1: But it's not. 807 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:42,200 Speaker 2: A PETI scotch would be more effervescent, right, pungent, you would, 808 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,760 Speaker 2: you would, you would have it more wafting. You wouldn't 809 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,080 Speaker 2: have to get so into it into the nose you 810 00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:48,160 Speaker 2: do have to get into that. 811 00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,800 Speaker 1: And by the way, the color is nice. It's a 812 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:52,880 Speaker 1: little bit orange, right. I wouldn't say there's much of 813 00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,400 Speaker 1: a viscosity on the glass at all. We're doing this 814 00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,120 Speaker 1: in a rocks glass. Don't ask me why. It's just 815 00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:00,120 Speaker 1: what we did. I don't know what to make of it. 816 00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,719 Speaker 1: That is weird. I don't know what time. 817 00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:06,600 Speaker 2: I do not know if that smells appealing, but if 818 00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,760 Speaker 2: you want it awkward, congratulations to James. 819 00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:14,040 Speaker 1: I want to like this. It's Michigan, it's Detroit because 820 00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,360 Speaker 1: you're a homer. Yes, now, I don't claim to be 821 00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:20,040 Speaker 1: from Detroit. I'm from Saginaw, which is ninety miles north 822 00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:26,520 Speaker 1: of Detroit and sagon awesome, that's so true. All right, 823 00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,440 Speaker 1: I'm ready. You're right, fingers well, are you ready for this, Tony? 824 00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,720 Speaker 1: I've been ready for this all my life? 825 00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:35,680 Speaker 2: You say he's going in. This is the two James spirits, 826 00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:41,000 Speaker 2: Johnny smoking gun. This is this is infused with tea. 827 00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:42,319 Speaker 1: This is a. 828 00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:50,080 Speaker 2: Very very odd thing here. And that smoke on the nose. 829 00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,640 Speaker 2: You're talking about a blend of whiskeys and with tea 830 00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:59,960 Speaker 2: and just weirdo, weirdo kind of stuff. 831 00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:05,160 Speaker 1: The amount of smoke on the palette is unreal. It 832 00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:09,200 Speaker 1: is smoky, it's herbal. It almost has a little bit 833 00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:17,680 Speaker 1: of that scotchy moss thing that you were talking about. 834 00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:21,040 Speaker 1: It's kind of got a buttery finish to it. There's 835 00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,239 Speaker 1: a lot of odd things going on here. I will 836 00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,719 Speaker 1: say this, it's a lot better on the palette than 837 00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:29,520 Speaker 1: it is on the nose. Really, Yes, all right, it 838 00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:32,799 Speaker 1: is awkward bacco finish to it. There's a lot of 839 00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:34,560 Speaker 1: weird things going on here. 840 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,520 Speaker 2: I'm going in to James Spirit's This is the Johnny 841 00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:40,319 Speaker 2: smoking gun here it is. 842 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,440 Speaker 1: He's going in ladies and gentlemen and he's going to 843 00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:43,920 Speaker 1: do what we like to call the sag and a 844 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:53,359 Speaker 1: swish Memphis munch chad nooka chump. That's crazy. 845 00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:57,040 Speaker 2: Now, when you do that, when you're tasting a bourbon, 846 00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,560 Speaker 2: it's called or whiskey. It's the Kentucky chew move it 847 00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:01,120 Speaker 2: around the can an idea of the play. 848 00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,000 Speaker 1: That's fruity. What the hell is going on there? 849 00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,640 Speaker 2: That's crazy Because I'm a believer in two SIPs, So 850 00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:09,319 Speaker 2: I'm going back and. 851 00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,560 Speaker 1: He's going back in ladies and gentlemen for a second 852 00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:21,640 Speaker 1: sip and a third. That is wild. That is really smoky, right, 853 00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:25,600 Speaker 1: that's not bitter. That's something else. 854 00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:32,239 Speaker 2: It doesn't taste like tea. That's crazy. I don't know 855 00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,040 Speaker 2: what that is either. Oh, we're gonna do What. 856 00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:36,480 Speaker 1: The hell is that? It's fun? 857 00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:48,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, We only hope you have not been stuck 858 00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:53,160 Speaker 3: in the airline insanity that's been going on across America because. 859 00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,240 Speaker 2: Of the no funding for the Department of Homeland Security, 860 00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:59,480 Speaker 2: which means no funding for TSA, Transportation Safety US Translation 861 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:04,279 Speaker 2: Security Iministration, and therefore the insane lines that have been 862 00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,800 Speaker 2: going on at major hubs and other airports all across 863 00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:08,240 Speaker 2: the country. 864 00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,440 Speaker 1: Your wife got stuck in it. 865 00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,879 Speaker 2: But there are some airlines that are trying to make 866 00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,640 Speaker 2: things easier. It's Eat Drink smoke. I'm Tony Katz. That's 867 00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:20,160 Speaker 2: fingers Maloy. You find everything at Eat drinksmokeshow dot com. 868 00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:23,719 Speaker 2: And don't forget eat drinksmokeshow dot com is all new 869 00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:26,240 Speaker 2: websites looking amazing thanks to fingers Maloy. 870 00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,560 Speaker 1: Be sure to subscribe and be a part of it. 871 00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:35,160 Speaker 2: This this non funding of TSA, the four hour, five hour, 872 00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:39,920 Speaker 2: six hour lines, this is no joke. And so they 873 00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:43,799 Speaker 2: brought in Immigration's Immigration customs enforcement officers to help with 874 00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:45,879 Speaker 2: the lines, and some people are angry, and most people 875 00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,000 Speaker 2: are like, thank goodness, I'm gonna make my flight to 876 00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:53,480 Speaker 2: go on spring break. But it's it's really inconveniencing a 877 00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:54,560 Speaker 2: tremendous number of people. 878 00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:58,040 Speaker 1: Your wife got caught in it heading back. Yeah, but 879 00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:03,120 Speaker 1: it wasn't TSA. That was an air line issue. Oh no, 880 00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:06,759 Speaker 1: but you know who knows. I just know that the 881 00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:11,200 Speaker 1: airline contacted her at seven o'clock in the morning as 882 00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:13,920 Speaker 1: she was getting ready to leave for a ten o'clock 883 00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,920 Speaker 1: in the morning flight, and said, your flight's delayed eleven hours. 884 00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:22,440 Speaker 1: Just right off the bat ended up being delayed thirteen hours. 885 00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:24,680 Speaker 1: She switched flights to the next day, and we got 886 00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:27,000 Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty dollars voucher burning a hole in 887 00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,680 Speaker 1: our pocket for the next time we're going to fly. 888 00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:34,080 Speaker 1: But what's interesting is her flight. First of all, I 889 00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,120 Speaker 1: hate to say this, and I know people who live 890 00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:38,640 Speaker 1: in Central Indiana are going to be angry that I'm 891 00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:41,480 Speaker 1: saying this. I'm knocking on wood right now. As far 892 00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:45,560 Speaker 1: as I can tell, things are pretty smooth still at 893 00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:50,080 Speaker 1: the Indianapolis International Airport. My wife had no problem at 894 00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:54,480 Speaker 1: all getting onto her flight, getting through security, and the 895 00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:59,480 Speaker 1: airport that she flew back from. Punta Gorda Airport is 896 00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:02,040 Speaker 1: one of only twenty airports in the United States that 897 00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,239 Speaker 1: does not use TSA. Right, so there are a couple 898 00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:05,840 Speaker 1: of airports that still use private security. 899 00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,319 Speaker 2: San Francisco is one of them. Yes, I didn't up 900 00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:10,920 Speaker 2: Hunta Gorda. I happen to be a believer that we 901 00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:12,400 Speaker 2: should be private security. 902 00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:16,160 Speaker 1: And not TSA. But that's not the conversation for right now. 903 00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:20,520 Speaker 1: Thirteen hour delay, thirteen hour delay. I don't know. You 904 00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:22,879 Speaker 1: just booked her to the next day. Yeah, yeah, just 905 00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:24,440 Speaker 1: said the heck with it, because I was gonna have 906 00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:26,280 Speaker 1: to pick her up at one thirty in the morning, 907 00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:33,600 Speaker 1: and who needs that. So but it's it's interesting that, 908 00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:37,320 Speaker 1: you know, these smaller airports have that kind of delay. 909 00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,239 Speaker 1: It's one thing when you're in a big airport and 910 00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:42,359 Speaker 1: you've got all the bars, all the restaurants, But when 911 00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:45,359 Speaker 1: you're in a little airport like Fort Wayne, Indiana has 912 00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:48,919 Speaker 1: a wonderful small airport, I think only have eight gates, right, 913 00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:53,920 Speaker 1: maybe one bar, maybe one place where you can get coffee. 914 00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,880 Speaker 1: If you're stuck in an airport like that, for thirteen hours. 915 00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:01,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I know this first problem stuff, but God 916 00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:02,799 Speaker 1: help you. I remember, you can get to know you're 917 00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:05,640 Speaker 1: the person next to you. You can make small talk. 918 00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:07,880 Speaker 1: Wouldn't that be one way? It was some other people's 919 00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:11,759 Speaker 1: kids that that would that if you could just sit 920 00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:14,240 Speaker 1: there for thirteen hours and talk to a complete stranger 921 00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,840 Speaker 1: about the weather. That sounds like a little slice. I 922 00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:17,319 Speaker 1: have it for me. 923 00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:19,640 Speaker 2: I'll update you and then maybe they'll show you a 924 00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:20,600 Speaker 2: slide show other kids. 925 00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:23,520 Speaker 1: Can I tell you one little grandchildren? One little side 926 00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:26,760 Speaker 1: story pets. Yes, you had an event a few weeks 927 00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,440 Speaker 1: ago that I attended and someone came up to me, 928 00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:32,600 Speaker 1: a big eat rink smoke fan, and said. The first 929 00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,000 Speaker 1: thing he said to me was, I know you really 930 00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:36,319 Speaker 1: don't want to talk to me because you don't like 931 00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:41,319 Speaker 1: talking to people. That's so great you did this. It's 932 00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:46,400 Speaker 1: not true you did this. Listen. I enjoy especially I 933 00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:49,279 Speaker 1: enjoy talking to eat rink smoke nation. I just don't 934 00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:54,600 Speaker 1: want to be in a grocery store, hung up at 935 00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:56,960 Speaker 1: check out and someone turn around and say to me, 936 00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:00,000 Speaker 1: hot enough for you. That's when you'll see my soul 937 00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,320 Speaker 1: will actually leave. I'm gonna start paying people to follow 938 00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:09,280 Speaker 1: you stillors and do that hot enough for you? Don't 939 00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,959 Speaker 1: like the weather in central Indiana? You know what I say, 940 00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:20,600 Speaker 1: Wait fifteen minutes. I don't know how long this is 941 00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:21,360 Speaker 1: going to last. 942 00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,640 Speaker 2: I don't know how long this department, if I'm a 943 00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:26,280 Speaker 2: security shutdown, is going to last. 944 00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:30,279 Speaker 1: This is this seems to be. While I won't get 945 00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:30,600 Speaker 1: into the. 946 00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:34,040 Speaker 2: Politics of it all, in my take, this seems to 947 00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:39,480 Speaker 2: be very much the most fascinating test of wills because 948 00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,719 Speaker 2: this is usually and Fingers and I will agree on this, 949 00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,520 Speaker 2: and I'm not afraid to discuss this. This is usually 950 00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:48,480 Speaker 2: the kind of stuff that Republicans cave on immediately. 951 00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:50,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, and they're not. 952 00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,600 Speaker 2: And the Democrats have tried some other angles, like well, 953 00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:58,000 Speaker 2: we'll just fun TSA, but we won't fund the other stuff, 954 00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:03,440 Speaker 2: and Republicans are like nah. And it is interesting only 955 00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:07,320 Speaker 2: in that it's doing real damage to people and TSA. 956 00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:09,480 Speaker 2: Even if I'm not a believer in TSA. These people 957 00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:10,200 Speaker 2: aren't getting paid. 958 00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:12,920 Speaker 1: It's not cool. It's very very rough. 959 00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:16,239 Speaker 2: And I'm not about to bag on them or diminish 960 00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:21,600 Speaker 2: what it is that they're experiencing, but rarely, because we're 961 00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:24,760 Speaker 2: forty nine days in well today, forty nine to fifty, 962 00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:28,000 Speaker 2: so by the weekend we're like on nine million days 963 00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:32,280 Speaker 2: in Yeah, this is really long. This is way longer 964 00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:35,759 Speaker 2: than people expected. And we've gotten a level of use 965 00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:38,040 Speaker 2: to it, which is also pretty odd. And we now 966 00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:40,719 Speaker 2: we're not funding levels of the Coastguard and you're talking 967 00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:44,080 Speaker 2: about serious issues about what could be coming into the 968 00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,520 Speaker 2: country and are people paying their most attention. 969 00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:50,160 Speaker 1: That's the thing that they usually say that something lasts 970 00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:53,759 Speaker 1: this long, super rare. I actually know when this is 971 00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:59,359 Speaker 1: going to end. I have a prediction. You're ready three years, 972 00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:02,440 Speaker 1: eight months, that's the callback. 973 00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,319 Speaker 2: See what I did there, That's how long I've had 974 00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:08,319 Speaker 2: the cigars in the humidor we're smoking. By the way, 975 00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:12,320 Speaker 2: the camacho kroho is what we are smoking. Nine dollars 976 00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:14,120 Speaker 2: and fifty cents. We will get into whether or not 977 00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:16,880 Speaker 2: it's in your humid are coming up. But some of 978 00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:19,680 Speaker 2: the airlines, not having anything to do with with this, 979 00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:25,400 Speaker 2: they're starting to recognize that maybe just maybe. 980 00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:26,440 Speaker 1: They're the problem. 981 00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:32,040 Speaker 2: They don't give service, they don't give selection, they make 982 00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:35,120 Speaker 2: the seats smaller, they charge you for every last thing, 983 00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:39,399 Speaker 2: and people have said screw this, and then of course 984 00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:41,439 Speaker 2: they've said it not only by saying it, but by 985 00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:44,440 Speaker 2: engaging in fights on every single airplane there is. This 986 00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:48,520 Speaker 2: is no longer Spirits problem alone. 987 00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:49,440 Speaker 1: United. 988 00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:54,759 Speaker 2: Now, I'm a believer that if if airlines were to 989 00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:59,719 Speaker 2: go higher end, people would spend the money. United is 990 00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:04,120 Speaker 2: now going to start offering international flights a relax row. 991 00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:07,200 Speaker 2: It's a set of three coach seats with leg rest 992 00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:11,200 Speaker 2: that flip up ninety degrees that convert into a flatbed 993 00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:14,680 Speaker 2: big enough for two adults and a small child. 994 00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:21,279 Speaker 1: Okay, that's not good. Why Why? Because couples are gonna 995 00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:24,319 Speaker 1: get up there on that flight in that position and 996 00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:27,560 Speaker 1: end up nine months later with a small child. Oh, 997 00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:30,480 Speaker 1: you think that's gonna happen. I know it's gonna happen. 998 00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:32,719 Speaker 1: You think this is just an introduction to the mile 999 00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:34,719 Speaker 1: high club? Yes, right. 1000 00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:39,200 Speaker 2: Air New Zealand calls it the skycouch. That's because casting 1001 00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:45,120 Speaker 2: couch was taken skycouch. 1002 00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:51,960 Speaker 1: Okay, you have a choice. First, you're you're Johnny first class, YEP, 1003 00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:56,800 Speaker 1: first class or a sofa bed on the plane, private 1004 00:55:56,840 --> 00:56:00,880 Speaker 1: plane private if you have a private plane. Get to 1005 00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:05,280 Speaker 1: know me. Wow, I'm going to John Lovets. 1006 00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:09,520 Speaker 2: Callback right there. Oh, first class in every way in 1007 00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:10,320 Speaker 2: every way. 1008 00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:15,560 Speaker 1: But I don't mind this. Give people opportunities, give them options, 1009 00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:19,040 Speaker 1: and apparently you get three TVs. Well that's always a 1010 00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:29,120 Speaker 1: good thing. This is eat drink smoke, eat drinks smoke. 1011 00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:33,560 Speaker 2: It is your cigar bourbon foodie extravaganza. I'm Tony Katz 1012 00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:39,040 Speaker 2: that right there. He is America's favorite amateur drinker. Fingers molloy. 1013 00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:42,759 Speaker 2: So we are smoking the Camacho Coroho. So I had 1014 00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:44,920 Speaker 2: these in my human room for four years? 1015 00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:47,560 Speaker 1: How long? Let me here? Are you gonna take a 1016 00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:53,880 Speaker 1: quick puff? Three years? Thirty seven weeks? Nice? Nice, like 1017 00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:56,920 Speaker 1: he's having a baby. Good lord. 1018 00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:01,040 Speaker 2: Coroha and the wrapper, binder and the filler. Not my 1019 00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:03,960 Speaker 2: normal cigar. A lot of pepper moving on this, but 1020 00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:07,280 Speaker 2: still i'd say medium, not abusive, not a pepper bomb, 1021 00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:09,760 Speaker 2: but just definitely there in the black and the red pepper. 1022 00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:11,960 Speaker 2: You talk about a little bit of sweetness going on, 1023 00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:13,400 Speaker 2: maybe a little bit of nuttiness. 1024 00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:15,400 Speaker 1: But at nine dollars and fifty cents, is this in 1025 00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:18,160 Speaker 1: your humidory? Yes it is, and it's not an everyday smoke, 1026 00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:23,080 Speaker 1: but it's there. I'm getting also some wood as well, 1027 00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:30,400 Speaker 1: do you. Yeah? It has been fairly trouble free. Had 1028 00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:33,800 Speaker 1: to touch it up a couple of times, but other 1029 00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:35,760 Speaker 1: than that, the hand feel is there. I could see 1030 00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:40,439 Speaker 1: taking this on a golf course and enjoying it. Yeah, 1031 00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:42,479 Speaker 1: that's in my humor door. But like I said, maybe 1032 00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:46,480 Speaker 1: once a month. Yeah, it's not an every day for 1033 00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:49,200 Speaker 1: me at all. It's not where I live and breathe. 1034 00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:51,320 Speaker 2: But for under ten bucks, I can see a lot 1035 00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:53,720 Speaker 2: of people saying this is something that they can enjoy. 1036 00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:58,040 Speaker 2: And we are drinking the Johnny Smoking Gun, which is 1037 00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:02,960 Speaker 2: this blend of whiskeys. This is an American whiskey that 1038 00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:05,920 Speaker 2: is infused with three types of Japanese tea. It was 1039 00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:12,960 Speaker 2: formulated to go with rich kind of of bros pork 1040 00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:16,360 Speaker 2: and fish bros in Japanese food. I assume maybe we 1041 00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:19,040 Speaker 2: could kind of expand it out to ramens and the 1042 00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:21,040 Speaker 2: kind of things that they kind of want to connect 1043 00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:25,160 Speaker 2: it with. It's it's this weird, weird flavor, very smoky. 1044 00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:27,960 Speaker 2: You would think like a Scotch, but in terms of 1045 00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:30,439 Speaker 2: of some of that flavor maybe a little bit more 1046 00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:31,440 Speaker 2: like an Irish whiskey. 1047 00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:36,840 Speaker 1: It's it's very it's it's peculiar. 1048 00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:41,600 Speaker 2: As can be now over there at Total Wine and 1049 00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:44,040 Speaker 2: Spirits where they carry it. They say it's a blend 1050 00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:47,760 Speaker 2: of corn whiskey and rye. No part of me picked 1051 00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:51,200 Speaker 2: up any rye. But because I'm also overwhelmed by a 1052 00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:56,320 Speaker 2: series of other flavors going on here, it's really unique. 1053 00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:59,040 Speaker 1: Is it gimmicky? 1054 00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:03,240 Speaker 2: I don't know they were going for something specific. The 1055 00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:05,640 Speaker 2: tea brought down the proof and fingers. You brought up 1056 00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:08,640 Speaker 2: the point they weren't bringing down proof to a number. 1057 00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:10,600 Speaker 2: They were bringing down proof to a flavor. 1058 00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:14,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, I mean they there's no way. They were 1059 00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:16,880 Speaker 1: saying themselves, we're gonna bring this down to a eighty 1060 00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:19,400 Speaker 1: proof and we're just gonna dump tea into it. It 1061 00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:22,960 Speaker 1: was a situation like a little more, a little more, 1062 00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:26,600 Speaker 1: a little more. Okay, that's it. But you know, you 1063 00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:30,520 Speaker 1: and I talked about this during the break, and I'm 1064 00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:33,800 Speaker 1: struggling to figure out what you could do with this 1065 00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:39,240 Speaker 1: if you weren't going to drink it straight. I don't 1066 00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:41,280 Speaker 1: know what kind of cocktail you could make with this. 1067 00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:45,600 Speaker 2: I have absolutely no idea, no clue what you would 1068 00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:47,520 Speaker 2: do with this. But I'm I put mine on a 1069 00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:50,080 Speaker 2: rock because we do our job. He already drink smoke. 1070 00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:52,400 Speaker 2: Sometimes you don't like it. You like it on a cube, 1071 00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:53,960 Speaker 2: you don't like it on a cube. You'd rather just 1072 00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:55,560 Speaker 2: add a little bit of water. Fingers added a little 1073 00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:55,840 Speaker 2: bit of water. 1074 00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:56,240 Speaker 1: It is. 1075 00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:59,560 Speaker 2: I added a cube thirty seconds ago, and it is 1076 00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:00,280 Speaker 2: basically milt. 1077 01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:02,480 Speaker 1: Wow, you would think it's one hundred degrees outside. It 1078 01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:05,440 Speaker 1: is not. I'm going in. He's going in, ladies and gentlemen, 1079 01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:14,040 Speaker 1: and he's doing the Kentucky shoe. No, it's good. 1080 01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:17,400 Speaker 2: Wow, it's the first of all, it's better on a cube. 1081 01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:20,120 Speaker 2: It's better on the cube because the intensity of the herbal. 1082 01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:24,120 Speaker 2: We talked about herbal over there at Bourbon Blenders. They 1083 01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:29,200 Speaker 2: say the herbal uh is is rosemary on the nose 1084 01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:30,280 Speaker 2: and a regano. 1085 01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:32,560 Speaker 1: On the finish. Okay, right, God bless you. 1086 01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:34,840 Speaker 2: These are also the people who said that the palette 1087 01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:38,760 Speaker 2: was decorative soaps. Guys, I invite you on the show. 1088 01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:42,600 Speaker 2: Would love to talk to you. Decorative soaps. Who can't 1089 01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:48,080 Speaker 2: give that as a flavor? Not not to Americans, No 1090 01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:53,040 Speaker 2: Grandma soap dish, No the little rose shaped ones. 1091 01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:56,240 Speaker 1: Uhh. You know you know what I find fascinating about 1092 01:00:56,440 --> 01:01:01,080 Speaker 1: you know your review there and when you were giving it. 1093 01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:06,200 Speaker 2: A really really hot top of chest all excuse me, hah. 1094 01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:10,440 Speaker 1: For those who tune into Eat Drink Smoke on YouTube, 1095 01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:13,960 Speaker 1: find our YouTube channel. Just search for each Drink smoke 1096 01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:19,840 Speaker 1: you when you're sampling this, the face you make is, oh, 1097 01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:22,760 Speaker 1: he's gonna hate this. Oh, he doesn't like this at all. 1098 01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:24,120 Speaker 1: And then you're like, it's good. 1099 01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:29,760 Speaker 2: It's the weirdest, it's crazy, and that smoke thing is surreal. 1100 01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:32,640 Speaker 2: I don't know it's it's not scotch, but it's the 1101 01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:35,440 Speaker 2: only way I can kind of it's but it's not scotch, 1102 01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:38,360 Speaker 2: and it's not campfire, but. 1103 01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:41,720 Speaker 1: It's a little campfire and it's a little scotch. I've 1104 01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:47,400 Speaker 1: never had a cocktail before where they use I don't 1105 01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:49,480 Speaker 1: even know what you call it that where they infuse 1106 01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:54,360 Speaker 1: smoke into that is you've had that before? Is it 1107 01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:59,920 Speaker 1: similar to? This? Is way different? Wild? All right? Go ahead? 1108 01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:00,360 Speaker 1: He had it. 1109 01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:03,080 Speaker 2: Just a little bit of water. Now water brings down proof, right. 1110 01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:06,120 Speaker 2: The water also opens up the bourbon. Some flavors more muted, 1111 01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:07,440 Speaker 2: some flavors more pronounced. 1112 01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:11,360 Speaker 1: That nose is so wild. It's everything about this is 1113 01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:15,720 Speaker 1: just bizarre, and not in not a bad way, not 1114 01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:19,600 Speaker 1: in a bad way, but not in an everyday way. 1115 01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:22,960 Speaker 1: I don't know what to do with this now. 1116 01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:24,960 Speaker 2: There is a part of me that definitely wants to 1117 01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:28,240 Speaker 2: try this with with a Ramen esque type of meal. 1118 01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:34,920 Speaker 1: To me, it brought down a little bit of the 1119 01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:39,360 Speaker 1: smoke brought which is not a bad thing. No, the 1120 01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:44,840 Speaker 1: smoke wasn't overwhelming, neat. It brought down a little bit 1121 01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:46,960 Speaker 1: of smoke, brought a little bit more of that herbal 1122 01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:54,240 Speaker 1: smoked meat. I don't, I don't, I don't get at all. 1123 01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:57,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was one that was one review, and then 1124 01:02:57,080 --> 01:03:00,680 Speaker 2: the people over there at to James dot com this 1125 01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:02,800 Speaker 2: is too James spirits. 1126 01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:04,200 Speaker 1: They they say. 1127 01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:07,640 Speaker 2: A Reguino brown butter thyme smoked peperka. 1128 01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:10,680 Speaker 1: Oh it wasn't them, I'm sorry. 1129 01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:14,240 Speaker 2: I it wasn't the people at uh at Bourbon Blenders 1130 01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:15,400 Speaker 2: who said decorative soaps. 1131 01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:16,240 Speaker 1: I'm yelling at them. 1132 01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:18,840 Speaker 2: No, No, it's the people at two James dot com 1133 01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:21,520 Speaker 2: who said decorative soaps. And that's not the way you 1134 01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:25,560 Speaker 2: sell whiskey. I'm and I'm again. I brought this up earlier. 1135 01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:30,160 Speaker 1: There's almost like a tobacco finish to it. It's it's 1136 01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:35,400 Speaker 1: so bizarre, it's interesting, and it's not listen, let me 1137 01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:38,120 Speaker 1: let me ask let me, let me ask you. Is 1138 01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:40,520 Speaker 1: this in your liquor cabinet for fifty bucks? Yeah? I 1139 01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:42,960 Speaker 1: found it for forty seven ninety nine. Yes. And this 1140 01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:46,120 Speaker 1: isn't just a homer thing. This would because it comes 1141 01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:48,880 Speaker 1: out of Detroit. Yeah. This is not a situation where 1142 01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:52,320 Speaker 1: I'm being a homer or I'm not going to claim 1143 01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:54,480 Speaker 1: that this is an everyday drink for me. It certainly 1144 01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:59,120 Speaker 1: would not be. This is a bottle that you want 1145 01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:01,840 Speaker 1: to bring out when ends visit and you're like, give 1146 01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:04,520 Speaker 1: this a try. Tell me what you think of it. 1147 01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:07,480 Speaker 1: If it's at your favorite lounge, you need to give 1148 01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:09,440 Speaker 1: it a try. Let us know what you think of it. 1149 01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:12,600 Speaker 2: But start at neat, Yes, start at neat, rocks back 1150 01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:20,000 Speaker 2: and then you know see it from there. It's it is. 1151 01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:23,800 Speaker 2: It is that I wish I could say nope. I 1152 01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:24,720 Speaker 2: can't say nope. 1153 01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:28,760 Speaker 1: You're topping off out on my limit on what I 1154 01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:31,200 Speaker 1: would spend fifty bucks. I don't think if you would 1155 01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:33,520 Speaker 1: have said seventy dollars, I would have said, I love 1156 01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:38,960 Speaker 1: you and I love Detroit. No, but fifty Yeah, between 1157 01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:45,000 Speaker 1: the presentation and the uniqueness of the flavor. 1158 01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:46,440 Speaker 2: Because it's a label that goes all the way around, 1159 01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:49,800 Speaker 2: and the label's almost a little glossy yeah on the front, 1160 01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:52,000 Speaker 2: and then it's got the relief of the two James's 1161 01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:54,800 Speaker 2: on the back, and then it's kind of like octagonal 1162 01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:57,040 Speaker 2: and has Detroit and what's the other name of the 1163 01:04:57,080 --> 01:05:02,280 Speaker 2: town Corktown Corktown embossed the bottom of of the of 1164 01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:02,840 Speaker 2: the bottle. 1165 01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:06,320 Speaker 1: It's really some thought went into it, or there was 1166 01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:08,080 Speaker 1: a good fine. It's very very cool. 1167 01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:13,520 Speaker 2: And I will tell you this, the heat was all 1168 01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:16,520 Speaker 2: upper chest and you and I both even after the 1169 01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:22,000 Speaker 2: first SIPs, it slowly moves its way down to the belly. 1170 01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:24,360 Speaker 1: It's the weirdest weird. 1171 01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:27,400 Speaker 2: I don't think we've ever spent this long describing what 1172 01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:31,240 Speaker 2: a bourbon does or what a whiskey does. There's there's 1173 01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:33,280 Speaker 2: just a ton happening, and I think some people are 1174 01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:33,840 Speaker 2: gonna sit. 1175 01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:35,680 Speaker 1: This and be like, guys, you're insane. This is this 1176 01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:38,360 Speaker 1: is crap. Sure, there's no doubt in my mind, I 1177 01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:41,400 Speaker 1: believe because this this is like no other whiskey I've 1178 01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:42,640 Speaker 1: ever had in my life. 1179 01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:47,320 Speaker 2: And I think that's what's got us intrades because I 1180 01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:51,040 Speaker 2: don't I don't know how to properly categorize it. 1181 01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:53,800 Speaker 1: I don't think this is gonna be on my list 1182 01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:57,240 Speaker 1: for my top three of the year. Yeah, I do 1183 01:05:57,280 --> 01:05:59,080 Speaker 1: think it's I do think it's in the liquor cabinet 1184 01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:03,400 Speaker 1: for it. You want to take something weird. It's an experience. Yeah, 1185 01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:04,160 Speaker 1: well said. 1186 01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:13,680 Speaker 2: Every year they come up with these lists the best 1187 01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:16,640 Speaker 2: place is to work in America, and then the company 1188 01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:20,240 Speaker 2: will sign on a door best place to work in America. 1189 01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:23,800 Speaker 2: I'm just amazed that in a world where that could 1190 01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:26,560 Speaker 2: still be an office building, no one's going to the office. 1191 01:06:27,720 --> 01:06:30,840 Speaker 2: Imagine the money you would save on stickers. It's eat 1192 01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:33,480 Speaker 2: Drink smoke. I'm Tony Katz. That is fingers below. I 1193 01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:35,200 Speaker 2: find everything at Eat Drinks Smoke show dot com. 1194 01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:37,200 Speaker 1: Do we have a sticker budget here? Oh, we've got 1195 01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:40,360 Speaker 1: a sticker budget. Nice. You need some stickers, I need four. 1196 01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:42,360 Speaker 1: I will get you want to eat drink smoke stickers. 1197 01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:44,320 Speaker 2: I'll get you some eat drinks for all of my friends. 1198 01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:47,080 Speaker 2: Get you some fingers stickers. Oh, it could it could be. 1199 01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:49,440 Speaker 2: It could look like a hand follow fingers. 1200 01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:52,520 Speaker 1: See what you did there? I see what I did there. 1201 01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:57,480 Speaker 2: So there's a list from the Visualcapitalist dot com. The 1202 01:06:57,480 --> 01:06:59,560 Speaker 2: best place to work in America in twenty twenty six. 1203 01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:02,640 Speaker 2: Six isn't even over. I don't know how it could 1204 01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:05,600 Speaker 2: be the best place now. Two hundred and seventeen thousand 1205 01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:09,920 Speaker 2: employees surveys rating factors such as pay, career growth, culture, 1206 01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:14,880 Speaker 2: and likelihood to recommend also pay do out the large 1207 01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:17,480 Speaker 2: companies which are over five thousand employees, or the mid 1208 01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:18,080 Speaker 2: sized companies. 1209 01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:20,040 Speaker 1: Let's go with the large companies because they are more 1210 01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:21,040 Speaker 1: recognizable names. 1211 01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:24,600 Speaker 2: I assume there are twenty on this list, and Samsung 1212 01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:27,600 Speaker 2: comes in at number twenty, and Salesforce comes in at 1213 01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:32,160 Speaker 2: number eighteen, and Adobe number fifteen, Delta's number thirteen, Carhart 1214 01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:36,040 Speaker 2: number eleven, Apples don't number twelve actually, and then you 1215 01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:40,000 Speaker 2: get to number ten, which is Houston Methodists Hospital Group. 1216 01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:42,760 Speaker 1: I guess number nine is Hogue. I don't know what 1217 01:07:42,760 --> 01:07:45,840 Speaker 1: a Hogue is. It's a sandwich. That's a Hoge. 1218 01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:49,960 Speaker 2: Oh, then American Express, then Nvidia, then in and Out. 1219 01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:53,280 Speaker 1: Then it's a Stanford. Do they mean the University? I 1220 01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:54,640 Speaker 1: would think so. Maybe. 1221 01:07:55,160 --> 01:08:00,920 Speaker 2: Then it's Microsoft, Google, Saint Jude Children's Research Hospital. And 1222 01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:07,080 Speaker 2: what's number one on the list, Trader Joe's. Trader Joe's 1223 01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:12,120 Speaker 2: is the best place to work, mainly because of the uniform. 1224 01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:17,840 Speaker 1: They give you a Hawaiian shirt. What you look at me? 1225 01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:20,080 Speaker 1: Do I look like I walk into Trader Joe's? Why not? 1226 01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:22,799 Speaker 1: You'd love Trader Joe's. Why would I love Trader Joe's 1227 01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:26,680 Speaker 1: Because they've got the JoJo's. Which are the cookies? If 1228 01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:31,040 Speaker 1: they've got some great, cool frozen foods. None of these 1229 01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:34,320 Speaker 1: sound like they're loaded with preservatives. No, no, no, that's 1230 01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:36,000 Speaker 1: the whole point. Well, why would I go in there? 1231 01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:38,360 Speaker 1: Then I need preservatives. 1232 01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:40,120 Speaker 2: Because they've got a bell and you can ring the 1233 01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:43,360 Speaker 2: bell for for good service and everyone goes whoo or 1234 01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:44,160 Speaker 2: something like that. 1235 01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:48,320 Speaker 1: Why do they go whoo or something like that? They 1236 01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:52,280 Speaker 1: wear Hawaiian shirts? What is the purpose of the Hawaiian 1237 01:08:52,360 --> 01:08:56,919 Speaker 1: shirt of traders jokes? Do you feel all sorts of aloha? 1238 01:08:57,040 --> 01:08:59,800 Speaker 1: Some people think it's cultural appropriation. I'm not one of those. 1239 01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:03,880 Speaker 2: So, and then you get to the mid size companies 1240 01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:08,439 Speaker 2: one to five thousand people, and you go from the 1241 01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:09,840 Speaker 2: New York Power Authority. 1242 01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:10,800 Speaker 1: Stop right there. 1243 01:09:13,400 --> 01:09:15,200 Speaker 2: The only way the New York Power Authority is a 1244 01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:17,320 Speaker 2: great job is because you don't actually have to show up. 1245 01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:20,559 Speaker 1: The whole thing is the no show job. The New 1246 01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:24,160 Speaker 1: York Power Authority. I'm guessing you know when you can well, 1247 01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:27,840 Speaker 1: I don't want to get sued. It's it's like the 1248 01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:31,200 Speaker 1: South Park episode where they make fun of cable companies. 1249 01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:35,040 Speaker 1: It's like, Oh, you're upset that we're not going to 1250 01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:41,200 Speaker 1: be there for another week. Oh that's terror. I'm so sorry. 1251 01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:44,920 Speaker 1: So I'm thinking the New York Power Company is like, Oh, 1252 01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:47,960 Speaker 1: you're upset that your bill's gotten really high because there's 1253 01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:51,599 Speaker 1: like twenty data centers. Now buy your house. Oh that's 1254 01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:57,320 Speaker 1: too bad. We're sorry. This is a great pace to work, 1255 01:09:57,400 --> 01:09:58,520 Speaker 1: isn't it, Johnny. 1256 01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:03,880 Speaker 2: That they've got green Bay Packaging, Spotify, Open Lane, don't 1257 01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:05,960 Speaker 2: know what it is, Business Solver or don't know, UIC, 1258 01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:10,479 Speaker 2: don't know, Medical Mutual, don't know, United Community, don't know 1259 01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:13,720 Speaker 2: Patagonia that's the clothing, and then Toll Brothers. 1260 01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:17,040 Speaker 1: Which is a construction company. These are the are the 1261 01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:18,160 Speaker 1: are the companies. 1262 01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:23,240 Speaker 2: But what is there anything that makes a place truly 1263 01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:27,960 Speaker 2: great to work for that isn't pay related. I mean 1264 01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:32,200 Speaker 2: you have to have a general interest in I would 1265 01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:34,559 Speaker 2: assume what are you doing? I mean there are people 1266 01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:37,160 Speaker 2: who don't do things that they're not interested in and 1267 01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:38,719 Speaker 2: they do them for the other things. 1268 01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:44,320 Speaker 1: Again, the economics of it all. I know people who 1269 01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:47,800 Speaker 1: work in a major corporation. Is that right, yes? And 1270 01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:52,120 Speaker 1: I've talked to these people and while they say yeah, 1271 01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:58,040 Speaker 1: while they say that the pay is satisfying and the 1272 01:10:58,120 --> 01:11:02,519 Speaker 1: benefits are fantastic. Right when you're at a workplace where 1273 01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:05,680 Speaker 1: you don't feel like you are respected as an employee, 1274 01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:10,760 Speaker 1: where you don't feel like the mission is defined and 1275 01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:14,760 Speaker 1: you have a better way to fulfill that mission, your 1276 01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:18,000 Speaker 1: voice isn't heard, where you feel like you've just been 1277 01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:21,639 Speaker 1: turned into a number and you're punching a clock every day. 1278 01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:28,320 Speaker 1: Sometimes personal sometimes I'm talking about people I talk to. 1279 01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:33,160 Speaker 1: We already know. You don't talk to anybody for people, 1280 01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:41,320 Speaker 1: and they're going to get stickers very soon. I feel 1281 01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:45,439 Speaker 1: that sometimes pay isn't enough for people like that, that 1282 01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:49,080 Speaker 1: they want more. You know, we've we've heard stories about 1283 01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:53,000 Speaker 1: the old stories about when Twitter was called Twitter, Oh, 1284 01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:56,880 Speaker 1: good old days, Yes, twenty twelve. It was a simpler time. 1285 01:11:57,560 --> 01:12:01,679 Speaker 1: People would work at Twitter and it was ry, hands off, 1286 01:12:02,080 --> 01:12:07,120 Speaker 1: relaxed atmosphere, to the point where when the new owner 1287 01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:09,080 Speaker 1: came in, they looked around and said, this is so 1288 01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:13,640 Speaker 1: relaxed why are you people here? What exactly do you 1289 01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:18,439 Speaker 1: do here? Office space? Thank you? And that became a 1290 01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:21,680 Speaker 1: less relaxed atmosphere for those people because they were no 1291 01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:27,360 Speaker 1: longer in that atmosphere. But I'm assuming, just based on 1292 01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:30,760 Speaker 1: what I've heard on the outside looking in, that some 1293 01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:34,160 Speaker 1: of these tech companies like Google may have that same 1294 01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:36,760 Speaker 1: kind of Hey, you know what, for the first half hour, 1295 01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:38,840 Speaker 1: you should just hang out at the coffee bar over here, 1296 01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:41,760 Speaker 1: we're just gonna exchange ideas and coffee bar. 1297 01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:46,000 Speaker 2: They have got multiple campus wide cafeterias where they're making 1298 01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:46,800 Speaker 2: food to order. 1299 01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:50,080 Speaker 1: It's crazy. But do they have coffee? Oh? Oh, do 1300 01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:53,679 Speaker 1: they have coffee? They have their own baristas. Wow? Right? 1301 01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:56,720 Speaker 1: And Google that you want a flat white, they'll get 1302 01:12:56,760 --> 01:13:02,840 Speaker 1: you covered. That's San Francisco still, right, so they probably 1303 01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:06,760 Speaker 1: that's close to Seattle? Is it Starbucks? What do you think? 1304 01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:11,320 Speaker 1: Oh no, let's let's send him an email and ask me. 1305 01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:15,280 Speaker 2: If you're looking for a place to work, that's gonna 1306 01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:16,880 Speaker 2: take perfect care of you. Although I don't know if 1307 01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:18,960 Speaker 2: they're hiring, but if you want a place to order 1308 01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:21,519 Speaker 2: meat from, that's gonna take perfect care of you. That 1309 01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:24,839 Speaker 2: is defiancebeef dot Com and the new deal is stupid. 1310 01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:28,040 Speaker 1: Now I ordered my full cow. I heard him order 1311 01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:34,040 Speaker 1: the cow. It's it's huge. I ordered the full cow. 1312 01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:38,240 Speaker 2: I have it like in this cow amongst all the rabbis, 1313 01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:42,840 Speaker 2: all the tenderloins, the two full thirteen pound briskets that 1314 01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:43,439 Speaker 2: are coming. 1315 01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:46,360 Speaker 1: They're somewhere around three hundred pounds of ground beef coming 1316 01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:48,679 Speaker 1: my way. And they said to you on the phone, 1317 01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:52,320 Speaker 1: conservatively three hundred pounds. This happens to be a very 1318 01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:54,479 Speaker 1: large cow. Like it is a very large. Some of 1319 01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:57,000 Speaker 1: them a little bit smaller. This one is huge. 1320 01:13:57,040 --> 01:13:59,880 Speaker 2: And you can get yours quarter, half or full in 1321 01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:04,160 Speaker 2: Indiana raised everything aged twenty one days. The flavor is outstanding, 1322 01:14:04,439 --> 01:14:08,120 Speaker 2: and then packed frozen and sent to you right to 1323 01:14:08,120 --> 01:14:10,639 Speaker 2: your door, right into the chest freezer, and right now 1324 01:14:11,720 --> 01:14:14,960 Speaker 2: you get yourself a quarter or a half or a 1325 01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:19,479 Speaker 2: full col Not only will you get free shipping, which 1326 01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:22,880 Speaker 2: is nuts, you're gonna get a free mini share and 1327 01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:26,320 Speaker 2: a mini share uh is a mix of one inch 1328 01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:29,680 Speaker 2: thick steaks like Ribby's or t bones, a chuck. 1329 01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:31,320 Speaker 1: In armor, a sirloin. You're gonna get. 1330 01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:34,639 Speaker 2: Short roobs, cube steak, skirt steak, flank steak and five 1331 01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:38,880 Speaker 2: pounds of ground beef. 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Where are we gonna go pick up your cow? 1342 01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:13,400 Speaker 2: We gotta go up there. We gotta visit the guys. 1343 01:15:13,439 --> 01:15:15,400 Speaker 2: You want to go pick it up on ourselves? 1344 01:15:15,479 --> 01:15:15,799 Speaker 3: Sure? 1345 01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:19,599 Speaker 1: Just you and me. Yes, we'll get the flat beat out. 1346 01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:22,280 Speaker 1: I can go with that, Okay, I can work with that. 1347 01:15:23,200 --> 01:15:27,840 Speaker 2: This is from two James Spirits The Johnny Smoking Gun. 1348 01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:32,400 Speaker 1: This is weird. This is weird and at fifty bucks 1349 01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:32,960 Speaker 1: worth a try. 1350 01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:37,280 Speaker 2: And this Camacho Kurojo the Toro for nine dollars and 1351 01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:38,320 Speaker 2: fifty cents. 1352 01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:40,720 Speaker 1: It's in humanois. 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