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Speaker 1: And I'm not tying tight kiss anymore.

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Speaker 2: And now am Nigel Joe off the Rails with Rob Christian.

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Speaker 2: My name is Nigel. Jason Hammer is here also joining

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Speaker 2: us live at studio. Rob Kendall from The Kendle and

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Speaker 2: Casey Show, here to go off the rails, Rob, how

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Speaker 2: are you great?

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Speaker 1: Thanks as always to our segment sponsor Garage Doors of Indianapolis.

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Speaker 1: Did you really pay sixty dollars to walk to rich

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Speaker 3: Are you talking a home?

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Speaker 2: Ramma? Yes, it's got a name last weekend my wife.

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Speaker 2: It's something my wife likes to do. Okay, so you

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Speaker 2: like it? Well, I think it's interesting. Yeah, it's so good.

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Speaker 4: You're not you do not like to walk through people's

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Speaker 2: I mean it's kind of cool though, the five million

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Speaker 3: It was on an NFL Sunday?

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Speaker 3: Don't give me that look like?

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Speaker 4: I enjoyed missing football to walk through a home. I'll

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Speaker 4: We and our wives like it. We do it multiple

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Speaker 1: This is literally just like rich people in Westfield open

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Speaker 2: This time. It was in Chatham Hills. It's been in

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Speaker 2: you can't open the refrigerator and get out free beer.

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Speaker 2: You gotta pay for the beer and everything. That's what

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Speaker 3: You have to pay.

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Speaker 4: Here shall we uh rama heard you and uh Casey

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Speaker 1: So the id C stands for Indiana Economic Development Corporation.

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Speaker 4: So our tax dollars are going to this Indiana Economic

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Speaker 4: Why am I here so much about an investigation if

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Speaker 2: The law, you talk about the audit.

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Speaker 1: That's that's basically what Braun wants to have ab and

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Speaker 1: legal review right now. Suppose legal review. The forensic audit

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Speaker 1: Nothing's gonna happen because of this.

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Speaker 3: Going off the rails with Rob Kendall.

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Speaker 4: I heard on your program you took a victory lap

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Speaker 4: on stopping Google. On our program, we took a victory

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Speaker 4: lap on stopping Google. Narrator, You've not seen the last

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Speaker 4: of Google. Like this data center into Franklin township. Yes,

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Speaker 4: it was supposed to be near the school. The school

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Speaker 4: Do I have this correct?

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Speaker 1: No, In fairness, I only took a victory lap for

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Speaker 3: Ended a segment going we stopped Google. If you're gonna

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Speaker 1: You know you're right though, So what happened with Google

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Speaker 1: As long as the IEDC is involved giving out hundreds

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Speaker 1: Well, okay, if Google came and said we're gonna build

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Speaker 1: Now do you think a one billion dollar Google data

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Speaker 4: Rob Kendall Experience. That's what we're going to rename the show.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's fine. I just like he just wanted to

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Speaker 3: I've paid for India. I've paid for India.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's like, what the hell is this guy you've been

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Speaker 4: So go back to the reason why you were banned.

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Speaker 4: You posted on social media that something along the lines

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Speaker 3: What does that even mean?

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Speaker 4: Like if I go out and say, yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: Well, no, I guess according to the day to Jerry

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Speaker 1: far as you can throw him. That's irrelevant though, right,

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, what the.

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Speaker 1: Guy's gonna get the high school lunch room table again?

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Speaker 1: You know when the guy comes on your show when

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Speaker 1: I knew. I knew that we're gonna do that when

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Speaker 1: Had said that they could stop me. That's what I

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Speaker 1: Phil is my number. He could call me, come on

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Speaker 1: that's fine, but it's irrelevant. Good standing back. It doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: I'm not running for public office and not anything.

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Speaker 3: I'm not running from.

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Speaker 1: The point is though, Phil Clay and restless Republicans in

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Speaker 1: Hendrick's County and other places, they don't want me there

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Speaker 1: want that. And they also don't want their candidates, whether

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Speaker 1: whether it's Craig Haggard lying to our audience about redistricting,

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Speaker 1: they don't want hard questions ask. So instead of holding

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Speaker 1: me and think they've accomplished something. He made it way worse.

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Speaker 3: I'm glad he did it.

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Speaker 1: We got great publicity out of it.

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Speaker 3: What's coming up tomorrow? I'm not working for Mart's Ryder Cup.

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Speaker 3: That's right, you lucky, Yeah, this is what you say

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Speaker 3: is better than The Masters Ryder Cup is the super

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Speaker 3: Bowl of Golf.

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Speaker 4: Now yes, leave leave now, just he's off the rails

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Speaker 4: over Where Candles Expert special thanks.

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Speaker 1: To Which stores of Indianapolis seeing the Ryder Cup.

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Speaker 3: Stammer and Nigel Show