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Speaker 1: I'm still on a speeding bullet, more powerful, got a locomotive. Hey, well,

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Speaker 1: believe all buildings at a single.

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Speaker 2: Bound the sky.

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Speaker 3: It's a bird Lincoln, Lincoln, Lincoln for Bingavana, BEng Gun

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Speaker 3: baby ling gun Lincoln.

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Speaker 4: They say this cat Lincoln is a bad mother. We're

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Speaker 4: just talking about Lincoln. Good morning, Cincinnati.

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Speaker 5: Welcome to twelve thirty w DVZ.

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Speaker 4: We are the buzz of Cincinnati, your talk station, the

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Speaker 4: Lincoln Wear Show till one o'clock this afternoon. It is Tuesday,

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Speaker 4: and uh, pretty good game last night?

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Speaker 5: Wasn't bad?

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Speaker 4: Chicago and Minnesota the Vikings there and who won the game?

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Speaker 4: I fell asleep again? I think the Vikings one. I

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Speaker 4: think I fell asleep. I really did.

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: But it was okay, not a bad game. They played

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Speaker 4: at the level. I think the Bengals play the Vikings

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Speaker 4: this year. I think we played the Vikings and I

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Speaker 4: think we can beat them. Just by looking at them yesterday,

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Speaker 4: I think we can beat them. Yeah, all right, there's

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Speaker 4: a lot going on.

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Speaker 5: Where do we start? Where do we start?

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Speaker 4: Man? City council is I guess scheduled to vote tomorrow

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Speaker 4: to give police another five million dollars. Yeah, to fight crime.

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Speaker 4: We need to fix it right now. And I kind

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Speaker 4: of agree with Scottie Johnson. I don't know if throwing

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Speaker 4: money at this is gonna fix it. I don't know

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Speaker 4: if throwing money is gonna get people to join the

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Speaker 4: Cincinnati Police Department.

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Speaker 5: I just don't know. I just don't know.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So Minnesota one, Okay, thank you Taja Gibson.

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Speaker 5: But I don't know. It's uh five point four million?

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Speaker 4: Now are we?

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Speaker 5: Where's all this money coming from? You know?

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Speaker 4: Is this gonna throw the city into a big deficit?

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Speaker 5: What is this?

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Speaker 4: You know, money they had extra from the railroad money,

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Speaker 4: I mean money that they saved that they didn't have

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Speaker 4: to spend because of the railroad money. I'll ask the

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Speaker 4: mayor that question when he comes in here in a

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Speaker 4: couple of weeks. Yeah, you'll be here in a couple

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Speaker 4: of weeks. But man, they just last week, a few

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Speaker 4: weeks ago, there was what a million or so?

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Speaker 5: Now it's another fight, man, And Okay, I guess the

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Speaker 5: governor is coming with his big plan.

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Speaker 4: I did see three State Patrol Highway State patrol members

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Speaker 4: have it had three people pulled over between Fighter Road

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Speaker 5: How is that fighting crime?

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Speaker 4: That's just that's taking money from citizens for you know,

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Speaker 4: minor infractions.

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Speaker 5: I don't know what the people were doing. It's hard

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Speaker 4: Speeding with all the traffic out there, So maybe they

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Speaker 4: were on the phone, license expired, license plate expired, or something.

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure what they had him pulled over for,

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Speaker 4: but it couldn't have been speeding. But that's the first

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Speaker 4: time I've ever seen three people pulled over in the

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Speaker 4: Fifer and downtown. How was that fighting crime? And I

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Speaker 4: guess some of the people will be uh, they'll be

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Speaker 4: plan that the governor has that's worked in other cities,

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Speaker 4: and I'm offering it to Cincinnati, and see, he's just

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Speaker 5: That's something we gotta pay for. It's something I don't know.

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Speaker 4: He's been awfully nice offering all this stuff to the

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Speaker 4: governor seems to be a little skeptical. The sister of

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Speaker 4: the young lady that was killed in Millville. She wants

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Speaker 4: She ended up plea of not guilty. She's crying self defense.

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Speaker 4: But man, two young ladies had a relationship and somebody

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: The woman who did the shooting looked like maybe she

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Speaker 5: There was no household, but you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: The secret grand jury testimony could be released in Cincinnati

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Speaker 4: on the brawl case. Clyde Bennett, he says he wants

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Speaker 5: That's what Clyde Bennett said.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he says he needs the secret grand jury testimony

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Speaker 4: She wants the woman to move out of the apartment.

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Speaker 4: The landlord wants her to move out, So what can

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Speaker 4: you say. Clyde Bennet said he has filed emotion to

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Speaker 4: dismiss the case based on selective prosecution of the law.

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Speaker 4: My claim is that my client is being unconstitutionally charged

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Speaker 4: because she is black. Because she's black. He may have

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Speaker 4: something there, so we'll see. The FBI is searching for

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Speaker 4: a woman man accused of stealing thirty four million dollars

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Speaker 4: in COVID relief funds. Thirty four million dollars. She's not

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Speaker 4: a bad looking young lady either.

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Speaker 5: Elaine Esco.

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Speaker 4: She stole thirty four million dollars in COVID relief funds.

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Speaker 4: If she stole that much, she's hiding pretty good. If

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Speaker 4: she stole thirty four million, she's hiding real good. If

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Speaker 4: she had a passport, guess what, she's probably not even

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Speaker 4: in the United States. But how did she get that

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Speaker 4: yet you can. Oh boy, she's only five four weighs,

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Speaker 4: one hundred and fifty pounds, black hair, brown eyes, tattoos

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Speaker 4: while she's free.

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Speaker 5: But if they ever catch her, she'll never see the

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Speaker 5: light of day again. Oh boy.

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Speaker 4: Uh. The NFL has banned that fan for shoving uh

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Speaker 4: DeAndre Hopkins and Lamar Jackson at the game. They've banned

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Speaker 4: He's totally banned. He will not see another NFL game

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Speaker 4: and lets it's on TV.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so there you have it. I mean, he really

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Speaker 5: did give Lamar a good shove, but Lamar the first.

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Speaker 4: Guy he took it. He just kept going. He was

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Speaker 4: so happy that he scored the touchdown. Lamar Jackson, he

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Speaker 5: So when the guy shoved him, he like, what.

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Speaker 4: The what you fool. He shoved me back, and now

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Speaker 4: he says he's sorry he did it. I wouldn't apologize.

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Speaker 4: The guy had no business doing that to Lamar.

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Speaker 5: So and have you seen.

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Speaker 4: This this letter that Trump signed for the birthday book

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Speaker 4: of Epstein.

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Speaker 5: That is Trump's writing. I don't care.

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Speaker 4: And he only signed his first name, but it looks

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Speaker 4: just like the writing on all these amendments and stuff

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Speaker 4: he's signing. It looks just like that. That is his nobody.

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Speaker 4: I've never seen anybody else write like that. That is

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Speaker 4: I wonder what was the secret, But that is Trump's handwriting.

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Speaker 4: I don't care what. Yeah, that is his writing. See

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Speaker 4: what else we have here? Oh man?

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Speaker 5: Of course, the wine.

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Speaker 4: Meet with city leaders about the crime reduction partnership. So

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Speaker 4: we have offered them help for the Highway Patrol to

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Speaker 4: just I don't know. This whole thing is a little skeptical.

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Speaker 4: I'm a little skeptical of this whole Mister nice governor

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Speaker 4: stuff wants to end crime after only after some white

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Speaker 4: telling you, none of this would be going on if

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Speaker 4: to fight crime. We can't have white folks getting beat up.

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Speaker 4: But they say nothing about the thirty eight herders that

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Speaker 4: And they were getting on Cecil Thomas's case too. I'll

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Speaker 4: All right, let's take a break, we'll come back. We

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Speaker 4: got Miss Nettie. And I never didn't get to Miss

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Speaker 4: But I guarantee you I'll get to her today after

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Speaker 4: Crime Stoppers. Let's take a break. Twelve thirty the Buzz

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Speaker 4: Talk station, and I thought the War and Treaty. I

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Speaker 5: But I didn't get a chance to talk.

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Speaker 7: To him, how come you didn't get a chance to

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Speaker 7: I mean, you were cutting in line from.

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Speaker 4: Everybody, and that's why I wanted to get out there

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Speaker 7: You could have just busted into that dressing room saying

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Speaker 7: I got questions for you, no security, I'm linking ware

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Speaker 7: and I have questions. That's what you should have done.

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, but uh oh, by the way, I

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Speaker 4: How about that?

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Speaker 5: To Tiffany Green, how you doing today?

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Speaker 9: So mourning?

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Speaker 10: Well, thank you because you have.

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Speaker 10: Never did a look kid like that.

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Speaker 5: That was horrible. That was horrible.

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Speaker 5: Yes, yes, yes, who are we looking for today?

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Speaker 10: Cincinnati Police District four is looking for Jay Clothes Fraggins.

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Speaker 10: Mister Spraggins is wanted for felony, strangulation and misumeanor assault.

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Speaker 10: Ohio area listeners. If anyone has information on where police

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Speaker 4: Are all right three, five, two, forty night or day

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Speaker 5: All right.

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Speaker 4: That's a detective Tiffany Green. And she even said that

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Speaker 5: Unbelievable, unbelievable.

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Speaker 4: All right. Day two and we still haven't heard from

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Speaker 5: On the date.

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Speaker 7: She's still on that meet Koma.

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Speaker 5: If you know what I mean, I don't know, Oh boy,

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Speaker 5: I don't know what you mean. I have no idea

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Speaker 4: Let's go to my good friend out in Lincoln Heights,

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Speaker 4: Miss nd Yes, beautiful Lincoln Height, lady.

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Speaker 12: Of Walking Talk first Lady Yes, Walking Talk, Sharon Ware Yes.

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Speaker 12: And then to her beautiful husband.

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Speaker 5: Oh boy, Lincoln Way, Oh boy.

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Speaker 12: And for the real Terrence Howard.

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Speaker 6: I want to.

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Speaker 12: Listen to your show is on Sunday, Yes on the

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Speaker 12: Oh my god, on one old three. Yes, Yes, thank

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Speaker 12: send a shout out to Ken and Bobby Lawson, Yes, okay,

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 11: Em Danuel Live, we dump that?

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Speaker 4: Can we dump that?

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Speaker 5: Okay?

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Speaker 12: Don't dump that?

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Speaker 5: I think I'm gonna dump that.

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Speaker 13: Why go ahead?

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Speaker 4: Go ahead?

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Speaker 12: And Nathan Living since Yes, Dad was a delight to know. Yes,

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Speaker 12: and added jan Brown. My cousins took me up at

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Speaker 4: He's always thinking about you. And there's a pilot by

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Speaker 12: Well, I don't need to know his name, but I

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Speaker 12: hat that I got on my Bengals cap now, yes,

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Speaker 12: And the white Lion, hi baby, and.

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Speaker 14: To black lions.

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Speaker 6: Oh.

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Speaker 12: But I want everybody to tune over to the real

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Speaker 6: Yes, okay, and I want it boring.

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Speaker 12: It's not boring, don start that. And I want to

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Speaker 5: Yes all right, thank.

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Speaker 12: Y'all so much. And I think first lady and I thank.

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Speaker 15: You, Yes all right.

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Speaker 4: Unbelievable. Unbelievable. Is anybody did she leave anybody out? She

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Speaker 4: Can you dig it?

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Speaker 5: All right? Let's go to Margie Hey, Margie.

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Speaker 11: Good morning, Good. I just wanted to say it was

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Speaker 11: good to hear Kenneth Lawton on the phone yesterday. I

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Speaker 4: Well do you? Does he have your number? No?

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Speaker 11: It was just so strange.

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Speaker 4: That's kind of grat.

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Speaker 11: You know, when I get a call do you? It

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Speaker 5: That is weird.

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Speaker 4: Right, thanks for your call.

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Speaker 5: All right.

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Speaker 4: That he's kind of strange. And I'm looking at Donald

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Speaker 4: Trump's signature to the birth on the birthday letter that

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Speaker 4: he's denying that, and then they compared it to another

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Speaker 4: So yeah, the cats out of the bag, Donald Trump,

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Speaker 4: the cats out of the bag. That is your signature,

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Speaker 4: and you can't deny it. Maybe we'll get it analyzed

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Speaker 5: Oh no, that's not no, the signatures don't match.

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Speaker 4: Right, let's take a break and then we'll come back

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Speaker 4: five one three, your talk station. And yes, Rosemary from

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Speaker 4: Rosemary's Baby is running for Congress. Yeah, she's running for

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Speaker 6: How you doing, Hey, Link, I'm doing good. Brother again,

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Speaker 6: I say, they hope that listening audience, and you are

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Speaker 6: doing well, doing great now, Lincoln, I've seen what happened

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Speaker 15: Of getting the ball. Said.

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Speaker 6: This is just my opinion. This is how I interpret

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Speaker 5: Keep going.

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Speaker 6: And the lady was searching for the ball for her family,

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Speaker 5: If you got kids, you know she had kids.

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Speaker 4: It's every man for every man, or woman for themselves.

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Speaker 4: If they don't catch the ball, you know, if they

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Speaker 5: It's anybody's ball.

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Speaker 6: Okay, now, let me just draw a different picture, because

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Speaker 6: because Pharaoh has the ego that a lot of us

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Speaker 4: Well, let me tell you this. Pharaoh will probably say

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Speaker 6: She had been arrested.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I don't know what would happen. She wouldn't

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Speaker 6: Here's what I'm trying to say. And all of the

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Speaker 6: You think he would have snatched that from Pharaoh like that.

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Speaker 4: He didn't. But look, look, when that ball is loose,

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Speaker 5: I've seen that before.

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Speaker 4: Unless you catch the ball on a fly or on

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Speaker 6: It was in the seat, and she was she pretty

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Speaker 6: But it's not only that, Lincoln, but this is how

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Speaker 6: He has come against and snatched. Yes, what we have

443
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Speaker 6: worked for so That's why I'm saying what I've seen

444
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 6: in him is typical of what I see in white

445
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 6: men in America, that even with women period, they will snatch.

446
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 4: But I didn't see it like that. I thought his

447
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 4: biggest fault was giving it up so easy.

448
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 6: And that's the way you interpreted from what you saw,

449
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 6: and most people did. But all I'm saying is I

450
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 6: like Pharaoh's mentality of being strong and being tough upon

451
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 6: the white man because every chance that they get to

452
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 6: snatch that ball out of our hand, they have taken it,

453
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 6: and they're taking it now.

454
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 5: All right.

455
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Speaker 9: That's why I say that we should.

456
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 4: Have we should not get it, we should not give

457
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 4: it back. All right, I gotta GOI I hear you, lady,

458
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 4: thanks for your call. And these people on Facebook live,

459
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 4: Shabazulu city manager snatched income out of the food truck entrepreneurs,

460
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 4: but Lincoln won't discuss that.

461
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:46,479
Speaker 5: Huh okay.

462
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 4: First of all, my guest yesterday, my first guest I

463
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 4: had yesterday, was a food truck owner, and we talked

464
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:59,479
Speaker 4: about it. And I'm going to get the city manager

465
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 4: in here at the end of the week to talk

466
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 4: about it. But we talked about it yesterday I had

467
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 4: Max from we do barbecue. He's got several trucks out downtown.

468
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 4: So I don't know what the hell you're talking about.

469
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 4: You just say stuff to say stuff, and I don't

470
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 4: want to say stuff.

471
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 5: I want to say the other word you say, you

472
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 5: know what to say?

473
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 4: You know what? Oh my god, jeez, I tell you,

474
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 4: oh man.

475
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 5: Talk about stuff, you know. Shahbazulu geez.

476
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 4: All right? Five one, three, seven, four, nine, twelve thirty.

477
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 4: The UH governor will joined state and local officials today

478
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 4: where they plan to announce those new partnerships are preventing

479
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 4: violent crime. Then I saw where all the sheriffs and

480
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 4: all these little townships around are coming together, the police chiefs.

481
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,479
Speaker 4: I guess of you know, all the little you know,

482
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 4: co Raine and North College Hill and all these places

483
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 4: are surrounding Cincinnati. They're coming together about the violence, about

484
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 4: the brawl, you know, or how to cut I was like.

485
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 5: I tell you, if you want to get things.

486
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 4: Done, just beat up some white people and everybody. Money

487
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 4: comes from everywhere, you know what I mean. Money is

488
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 4: flowing like I don't know what. Because white folks got

489
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 4: beat up in downtown Cincinnati. Money's flowing governor's coming to town.

490
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:58,479
Speaker 4: The senator, you had senator talking smack? Where was this

491
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 4: talk last year? Where was this talk in April? We

492
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 4: had a lot of homicides April, May and June.

493
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 5: Where was all this talk?

494
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 4: Then? I bet you in April, if you had brought

495
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 4: up giving the police five million dollars for safety, they

496
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 4: would have laughed at you. They would have laughed at you.

497
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 4: If you had brought up saying let's give police another

498
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 4: five million dollars and a safety plan to cut down

499
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 4: on violence, they would have laughed. Because a white Russian

500
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 4: got stomped and beat Hollywood Holly got knocked out. Then,

501
00:32:55,200 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 4: money and resources and stuff comes from everywhere. Why does

502
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 4: something like that has to happen for all this to happen?

503
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 4: Can somebody please answer that? At five, one, three, seven, four, nine,

504
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 4: twelve thirty. I just don't understand. They would have laughed

505
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 4: at any councilman in June if they had brought up

506
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 4: giving the police another five million dollars, they would have

507
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 4: been laughed off.

508
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 5: Council.

509
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 4: Why now theroh may have been right, you don't put

510
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 4: your hands on a white person.

511
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 16: Where are the white women at.

512
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 4: It's crazy let's take a break five one three, seven,

513
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 4: four nine twelve thirty. Oh, before we go to break,

514
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 4: I've got a pair of tickets to see the Preservation

515
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 4: Hall the presentation Haul Jazz and Band. Yeah, the Preservation

516
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 4: Haul Jazz and Band A Creole Christmas is gonna take

517
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 4: place at the TAF Theater December eleventh. Yes, and if

518
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 4: you want a chance to win, be calling number four

519
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 4: right now at five one three seven four nine one

520
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 4: two three zero. Caller four at five to one three seven,

521
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 4: four nine, twelve thirty. If you call A four, the

522
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 4: tickets are yours. Let's take a break twelve thirty the

523
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 4: buzz coler. I was supposed to take the fourth caller,

524
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 4: and so we'll do it now. You call A one.

525
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 5: I'm looking for for number four.

526
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 4: You call her two.

527
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:38,320
Speaker 5: I'm looking for number four.

528
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 4: You call her three. I'm looking for number four. Sorry

529
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 4: about you. Look you were so close. You call her

530
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 4: number four. What's your name?

531
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:48,240
Speaker 2: Hello, Barbara?

532
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:52,399
Speaker 4: Barbara? Well, congratulations, Barbara, you just won yourself a pair

533
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 4: of tickets to see the Preservation Haul Jazz Band a

534
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 4: Creole Christmas. And that's gonna take place at the TAF

535
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 4: Theater on December eleventh.

536
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 5: How about that?

537
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 8: All right?

538
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 4: Thank you where you're calling from?

539
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 17: Evanston?

540
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 4: No good, old Evanston. All right, what station just made

541
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:08,800
Speaker 4: you a winner?

542
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:10,879
Speaker 5: All right?

543
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 4: Hold on, there you go, there you go. And before

544
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 4: the break, I was talking about how you know we

545
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:24,879
Speaker 4: had one little fight downtown that involves white folks and

546
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 4: resources and money comes from everywhere.

547
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 5: Oh boy, we do whatever you want us to do.

548
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 4: We can't have white folks getting beat up in downtown Cincinnati.

549
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 4: And when was it back in June? Was it April

550
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 4: or June? I think the chief asked for a half

551
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 4: million dollars. She needed some more money for overtime, and

552
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 4: she all she asked, They gave her like a million,

553
00:35:55,320 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 4: a million and a half, A million and a half

554
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 4: are more than that. Unbelievable, unbelievable. It's just crazy how

555
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 4: one incident and the color of the people, what a

556
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:28,399
Speaker 4: difference that makes. But I'm telling you, if they had

557
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 4: been just all black folks scrapping down there, black woman

558
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:38,439
Speaker 4: gets knocked out, black man gets stumped and beat we

559
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 4: would not be talking about this right now. They would

560
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 4: laugh at any city councilman who would say five million

561
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:51,320
Speaker 4: dollars for safety. They would laugh them off of city

562
00:36:51,360 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 4: council that says something about the city of Since what

563
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 4: does that tell you? And the streets of Cincinnati are safe,

564
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 4: and white folks know that it's safe. They find a

565
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 4: cup one here, one there, who you know, they find

566
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 4: a few Karen's out there to get on and say

567
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 4: it's not safe. But if the average white person you

568
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 4: talk to will tell you the city of Cincinnati is safe,

569
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 4: you don't even have to take their word for it.

570
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 4: Just go downtown on a Saturday night, Friday night when

571
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 4: the Reds are playing, when FC Cincinnati is playing, and

572
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 4: there's people going back and forth all downtown over the Rhine,

573
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 4: not a care in the world, having a good time,

574
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:52,359
Speaker 4: eating at restaurants and all this stuff. We don't need

575
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 4: the state Patrol to take off extra duty from the cops.

576
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 7: Are white people fighting each other? On that same night,

577
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 7: there were a couple of groups of yeah, yeah, so

578
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 7: I don't I don't know.

579
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:10,800
Speaker 4: But same they were the same color. You know, they

580
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 4: were white folks beating white folks. But when you have

581
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,919
Speaker 4: black folks beating white folks, it's a whole new ball game.

582
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 7: Well, Nate Leverson nailed it yesterday when he said It's

583
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 7: basically they're trying to make it so that they when

584
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 7: they go to the polls, they vote for.

585
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 4: Some strong Republicans. Yes, yes, clean up the city the plan,

586
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 4: that's the plan. That's the plan. They scare them to death,

587
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 4: and then they roll out the people that's gonna come

588
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 4: to their rescue. Scare them to death. Oh boy, Bill

589
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 4: Kenningham is doing a great job at scaring white people

590
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 4: over there. I just want to take my radio and

591
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 4: twist the knob ball. He makes me so mad. And

592
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 4: he claims he wants to come on the show here,

593
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 4: and but he claims he does, but he's always, oh,

594
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 4: I can't make it. I got this, I got that.

595
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:12,319
Speaker 5: But he claims he's coming on the scare Now.

596
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 4: He's gonna try to scare black folks like it's not

597
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 4: safe to go downtown. That's what he'll try to do.

598
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 4: All right, let's go to suitcase suitcase.

599
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 17: How you doing, Hey, I'm doing well. How about yourself?

600
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 4: I'm hanging in there.

601
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 5: What's up?

602
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,760
Speaker 17: Not much? I was just listening to you. You showed

603
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 17: this morning, and you know, propaganda is perpetrated by the

604
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 17: government and the news on certain items that they're trying

605
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 17: to illustrate and push forth on. So sometimes you can't

606
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 17: listen today. You gotta multiple sources on some of this stuff.

607
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:51,399
Speaker 4: Well, yep, you're right. I mean, you see it right

608
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 4: before your eyes suitcase.

609
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 17: Yeah, and now I was talking. I wanted to talk

610
00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 17: about that thing you're talking about earlier with the baseball off.

611
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,320
Speaker 13: With the guy and the lady.

612
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 17: Sometimes when you when you got your children with you,

613
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 17: sometimes you just have teachable moments and and and for

614
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 17: that guy, that probably was a teachable moment to let

615
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 17: him know how ignorant others are when you out in public,

616
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,799
Speaker 17: because everybody knows when you go to like a football game,

617
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 17: baseball game, and so forth, you know, it's all included

618
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,360
Speaker 17: in the package that you pay that you may be

619
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 17: able to pick up, you know, additional items, I say,

620
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 17: a football player throw a football into the stand or

621
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 17: but you know, all kinds of stuff.

622
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 4: Been All people scraped to get those things, and whoever

623
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,320
Speaker 4: comes up with it, that's who it belongs to.

624
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 17: Yeah, yeah, I mean so, I mean, you know, like

625
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 17: I said, if I was a guy, I probably would

626
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Speaker 17: have did the same thing, because, like I said, it's

627
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,320
Speaker 17: a teachable moment. And you out with your kids and

628
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 17: stuff like that. You don't really want to get ignorant

629
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 17: with somebody that's you know, you know over a couple

630
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 17: of you know, like a baseball or something like that.

631
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know, every kid wants a ball at

632
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 4: a game. A lot of kids even bring their gloves

633
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 4: in hopes that they don't catch a ball. And they

634
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,320
Speaker 4: were sitting over in the home run area where a

635
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 4: left hander would hit a home run.

636
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 5: That's where it's going. And you got a chance to

637
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 5: get your kid a.

638
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 4: Ball, you get it, and then you let some white

639
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 4: woman come up and bully you in the giving it

640
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 4: back there, giving it time.

641
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 17: Yeah, but you know, at the end of the day,

642
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 17: like I said, it's a teachable moment.

643
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:32,360
Speaker 8: You know.

644
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 13: And plus you know he came out that the child came.

645
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 17: Out head by getting additional stuff. So I mean, at

646
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 17: the end of the day, it was a teachable moment

647
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 17: because you know, the dad was was the better person

648
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 17: in the in the in the confrontation, and and then

649
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 17: the child benefited from it. So I mean, what more

650
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 17: can you ask for?

651
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 8: You know?

652
00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, yeah, I hear you, I hear you, But

653
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 4: like I say, I don't know if I would have

654
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 4: given it up that easy, even though it was a

655
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 4: teachable moment. You say, uh, and that way, what did

656
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 4: you teach the kids? If somebody comes over yell and

657
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 4: curse at you give them whatever they want, you know

658
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 4: what I mean.

659
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 17: Without you know, at the use of the day. You know,

660
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 17: some sometimes situations aren't worth you know, fighting for, you know,

661
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Speaker 17: and so you know the dad, you know, I, like

662
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Speaker 17: I said, I would have gave it to her, Not

663
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 17: not so much because.

664
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Speaker 5: She's white, right, And it's easy to sit here now

665
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:39,760
Speaker 5: and say that to case you would.

666
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 4: Have given it to her.

667
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 13: I've been in other situations and sometimes you have to

668
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 13: you know, use uh. You know, everybody not an adult,

669
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 13: even though you may be an adult in age maturity wise.

670
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 17: You may not be. And I just think if I

671
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 17: had my kids some what you know, I you know,

672
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:05,320
Speaker 17: I wouldn't want to show you know, how ignorant I

673
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 17: could really get too, so, you know, stepping out to

674
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 17: another person level. So I think like he made a

675
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 17: higher move in keeping you know, his com and just

676
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 17: saying okay, you can have it. You know what I'm saying.

677
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 17: I ain't a word about it, you know what I'm saying.

678
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 17: And like I said, it's to some degree, you can

679
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 17: argue that. But you know, had he been you know,

680
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:30,399
Speaker 17: by himself, that that's another incident. I'd have been been

681
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 17: like no, no, But you know, when you're out with

682
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 17: your kids, you won't, you won't, you know, good situations,

683
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 17: you know.

684
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 4: Well, I don't know. I go to games and and uh,

685
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 4: the last game I went to, I think my granddaughter

686
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 4: was there, and if I had gotten a foul ball,

687
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 4: she don't care anything about baseball. She probably would have

688
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 4: wanted me to give it back to the lady. I

689
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 4: don't know, but uh, I'm telling you, I wouldn't have

690
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 4: given the ball up like that. That's just me. Uh

691
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,360
Speaker 4: you know, maybe it's the Marine Corps in me, but

692
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 4: I would be just giving it up like that my

693
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 4: kids right there.

694
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 5: I got it for the kids, and she's gonna curse

695
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 5: me out and stuff like that. So I don't know.

696
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 13: Hey, And the last thing, quickly, I.

697
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:17,720
Speaker 17: Gotta run the guy that spoke earlier about talking about

698
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 17: the differences between white and black people, I think that,

699
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 17: you know, I look for the heavens of gloves to

700
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 17: give me my blessing and not from another person. So

701
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 17: you know, him saying that about you know, white people

702
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 17: are black people looking for them to benefit you Like,

703
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 17: I don't even be looking for that. At the end

704
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 17: of the day, once I say my blessing, you know,

705
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 17: you know what's for me is what for me?

706
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I gotta go.

707
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 4: Thanks for your called suitcase. We've got news coming up

708
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 4: twelve thirty the Buzz Ork talk station and in the

709
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 4: studio with me, we got the mister Elwood Jones is

710
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 4: in the studio, David hind and Jay Clark with us

711
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 4: and attorneys for Elwood And uh, where do we stand now?

712
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 4: I mean I had the Uh, who's I at the

713
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 4: prosecutor on the other day, And it's pretty much like

714
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 4: she's gonna wait till the Supreme Court State Supreme Court

715
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 4: does anything before she does anything.

716
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 5: Now, can't she just go ahead and dismiss this and

717
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 5: it'll call it a day and be done with it.

718
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:19,839
Speaker 4: Can that happen?

719
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 18: She absolutely has the power to dismiss.

720
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 5: It, even though it's at the Supreme Court, as.

721
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 18: The as the elected prosecutor in Hamblin County, it's that's

722
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 18: her her domain and she has the responsibility if she

723
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 18: thinks it's not proper to dismiss it.

724
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, so she could just end it today. She

725
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 4: going it to wow.

726
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:41,839
Speaker 8: Uh and uh.

727
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 4: I talked to Ken Lawson yesterday and he was talking

728
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 4: about how the evidence suddenly appeared in the trunk of

729
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 4: Ellwood's a car there, and uh, how you know it

730
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 4: can't be explained And you know, there's a lot of

731
00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 4: stuff that's I'm not quite right about this whole There's

732
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 4: a lot.

733
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 18: That's not right about it. And most of it comes

734
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 18: back to the initial prosecutorial misconduct when they didn't disclose

735
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 18: all that expulpatory evidence to the original defense team. But

736
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,360
Speaker 18: with respect to the pendit itself, with the Court of

737
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,839
Speaker 18: Appeals decision from ten days ago, two weeks ago, whatever

738
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 18: it is, that pendit is no longer an issue because

739
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,360
Speaker 18: in the event there would ever be a retrial, the

740
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 18: witness who found that pendant is not available. His testimony

741
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:28,800
Speaker 18: has been excluded and they have no way to introduce

742
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:29,800
Speaker 18: that pendit ind evidence.

743
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:34,919
Speaker 5: M Man, I tell you, So where do we stand now?

744
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 5: What are we waiting on now? Just it's a waiting game,

745
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 5: waiting on the Supreme Court or what?

746
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:40,399
Speaker 4: Yeah?

747
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,399
Speaker 16: I mean, as Jay said, they could they could drop

748
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 16: the charges today. So we're we're waiting on the prosecutors

749
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 16: to do the right thing. The prosecutors are saying that

750
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 16: they're waiting on the Supreme Court to make a decision

751
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 16: on this really minor or narrow procedural point that just

752
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 16: doesn't it doesn't matter to Elwood.

753
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 4: Frankly, Yeah, yeah, okay, So boy, I tell you, I

754
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 4: think it's the fact that they don't want to look

755
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 4: like they were wrong, like they did something wrong.

756
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 5: That's where it stands now to me, That's what I believe.

757
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 16: Yeah, I mean, you know what's interesting about all this

758
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 16: is that when we had our hearing in August of

759
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 16: twenty twenty two, one of the prosecutors who attended the

760
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 16: hearing for the state was also one of the prosecutors

761
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:24,359
Speaker 16: who tried Elwood in nineteen ninety six.

762
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Speaker 4: At the same time.

763
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Speaker 16: You know, Connie Pillach, she's not responsible for what happened

764
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 16: in nineteen ninety six. That wasn't her fault, right, right,

765
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 16: But she is the elected prosecutor now and it is

766
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 16: her responsibility to do something about it, and thus far hasn't.

767
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 4: Man So, Elwood, I know you just waiting waiting to

768
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 4: get word from the Supreme Court or the prosecutor's office.

769
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:50,760
Speaker 4: I had her on the show, and it just seemed

770
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,959
Speaker 4: like she's gonna wait to hear from the Supreme Court.

771
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 3: Well, even if she wait for Supreme Court, even if

772
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 3: she wait owned the Supreme Court. What I want to

773
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 3: see her do is do what she campaigned on, clearing

774
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 3: that office, cleaning that office out. SCEP Tiger was on

775
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 3: this case from day one. He's wanted the prosecutors withheld

776
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 3: that evidence. She campaigned said she would get all the.

777
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:19,280
Speaker 4: Rodding apples at office.

778
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 3: She got him as a lead prosecutor in the office

779
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:26,320
Speaker 3: right now to help train in others.

780
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 4: What is he train now? That's not good.

781
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:34,439
Speaker 5: It's like the fox guarding the hen house. Unbelievable.

782
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 4: So and he's the only one that still let yeah, okay,

783
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 4: Pat mob retired.

784
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 3: Didis is at the Supreme Court, which is not good?

785
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 3: And then he needs to recuse himself in this case.

786
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 3: He did okay, okay.

787
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 18: It's kind of a unique process how that works with

788
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,840
Speaker 18: your hu Supreme Court. But he did ultimately refuse himself

789
00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:00,839
Speaker 18: and is not participating in the case. He still got

790
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 18: an office there and colleagues on the court, but he's

791
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:04,319
Speaker 18: not participating.

792
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:09,399
Speaker 4: Ye, I'm still can be in the pie. Yeah, right right, right, right, man?

793
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 4: So I mean you are you, can you get a job?

794
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 4: Can you do anything? I even spoke to you about that.

795
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 3: In fact, I was just up at the South Bash

796
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 3: and on they asked them about a job today.

797
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:26,280
Speaker 4: Got no, Uh did you try City Link? I haven't

798
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 4: been down there.

799
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 13: Uh.

800
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 3: And the big issue with that, mister ware And like

801
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 3: I told a few other people, that's a program they

802
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 3: do for second you know, second chance. I'm not asking

803
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 3: for a second chance. I didn't get my first chance.

804
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 3: I didn't do nothing wrong. Yeah, right right, So I'm

805
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 3: not for me to go down there and submit. I'm

806
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 3: submitting not neath them terms. And I've done nothing wrong,

807
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 3: right right right, unbelievable.

808
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 4: So yeah, I meant, you're out of jail, but you

809
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,840
Speaker 4: gotta you gotta live, you know, and.

810
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,959
Speaker 5: They've got you in limbo, you know. Unbelievable.

811
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:03,959
Speaker 4: I mean, And for people who don't know the whole case,

812
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 4: just give us a recap of your whole case and

813
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 4: how long you stayed in jail for people may not

814
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 4: be familiar with it.

815
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:17,840
Speaker 3: I got wrestling in ninety five. This case took place

816
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 3: in ninety four at MBC Swite. I was working out

817
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 3: at the embassy Switeen woman died in her room. Somebody

818
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 3: beat her. And a year later I got a rest

819
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:32,280
Speaker 3: and they said they had found this piece of jewelry

820
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 3: in my car, and they rested me and they started

821
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:38,320
Speaker 3: processing for a trial to come in and ask me

822
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 3: to take a plead, and I tell him please for

823
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 3: what I ain't done nothing. I went on the trial.

824
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 3: I was found guilty, and from that day for it,

825
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 3: I've been trying to get my life back, fighting every

826
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 3: time uphill down here.

827
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:55,840
Speaker 4: And how many jail the days did how many yearsually

828
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:56,399
Speaker 4: spend in jail?

829
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 5: I spent twenty seven and twenty seven years, jez.

830
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:04,840
Speaker 4: And so, man, I tell you, so, you just in

831
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 4: limbo can't get a job. It's just I mean, it

832
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,359
Speaker 4: shouldn't take this long after you've been in jail that long.

833
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 5: They should try to speed things up a little bit,

834
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 5: you know what I mean.

835
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:16,879
Speaker 4: It's just not fair.

836
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,799
Speaker 18: And what was interesting about trying to speed it up? Yeah,

837
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,400
Speaker 18: case in your High Supreme Court. The briefing was finished

838
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 18: in March of twenty three, No.

839
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 4: Twenty twenty four.

840
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 16: The briefing was finished in March of twenty twenty four,

841
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 16: and the Supreme Courts I think it's their guidelines indicate

842
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:38,360
Speaker 16: that you should have an oral argument on any briefing

843
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 16: within two to four months of the briefing being concluded.

844
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 16: We got to like July and we hadn't even been

845
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 16: notified of a hearing. So we filed a motion and

846
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:48,800
Speaker 16: said can we get a hearing? And we're told no.

847
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 16: And then I think it was like the week after

848
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:55,800
Speaker 16: the election when the composition of the court changed, that

849
00:51:56,040 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 16: they set it for oral argument in February. This appeal

850
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:03,280
Speaker 16: that's in the Supreme Court has been there since December

851
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 16: of twenty three. They accept the jurisdiction December of twenty

852
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 16: twenty three. And I mean Elwood. You know, we had

853
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:12,360
Speaker 16: our hearing on Ellwood's motion for new trial in August

854
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 16: of twenty twenty two. Judge Cross granted that. In December

855
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,360
Speaker 16: of twenty twenty two, we're coming up on three years

856
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 16: since she let him out of jail. And he's, as

857
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 16: you said, you know, after sitting for twenty seven and

858
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 16: a half years, they've made him wait for another three years.

859
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 4: It's just like another he's just like he's been in

860
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 4: jail for thirty years. That's right, Yeah, that's right. Yeah,

861
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 4: ibelievable and by the way, Kate Lawson said that pendon

862
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 4: that was found in his trunk was right there and

863
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:38,840
Speaker 4: as soon as you opened the trunk you would see it.

864
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 4: So why would you if you had something like that,

865
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 4: why would you put it there instead of hiding it

866
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 4: somewhere out of it? As soon as you open the trunk.

867
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 16: There was well, and it's even worse than that, right

868
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:50,360
Speaker 16: because when you look at some of the Brady materials

869
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 16: that they've disclosed, it's allegedly right there when you open

870
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 16: the trunk. Except that we now know what they didn't

871
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 16: tell Elwood and his council back in nineteen ninety six

872
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 16: is that like five different people searched that car for

873
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 16: forensic evidence. They were they were looking for hairs and

874
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 16: drops of blood, but apparently nobody saw this thing after

875
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:11,319
Speaker 16: searching it for hours until the officer goes back by

876
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 16: himself and then lo and behold, they finds this.

877
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 3: That's that's just when you look at that, you get that.

878
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 3: And then when they did the DNN, they send it

879
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 3: the sail mark. When the sale mark come back. In

880
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 3: May of ninety five, Chief of Police uh Mike Allen

881
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 3: got On did Odd called and paype saying that someone

882
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 3: don't come forward soon, we're gonna have to put this

883
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 3: case on the chef until we find something.

884
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 4: Well, at that time, according to them, you had that.

885
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, for a year before they filed any charge.

886
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 4: Are you kidding me?

887
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 18: I mean if they say that, the deception about the

888
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 18: pennant is even worse. At trial, in the closing argument,

889
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 18: Mark pete Meyer argued to the jury that we didn't

890
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:05,879
Speaker 18: have fingerprints, we don't have forensic evenance. We've got something better.

891
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 18: We've got this unique, one of a kind pendit that

892
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 18: I'm sure when Elwood took it he didn't know it

893
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 18: was unique in one of a made a big deal.

894
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 10: But being one of a kind.

895
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 18: What we didn't find out until the habeas Blue Ash

896
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:21,839
Speaker 18: police went to New York I think two or three

897
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 18: weeks after miss Nathan was killed.

898
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, they went on the fifteen, Yeah.

899
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 18: Met with her family and we're told that's not unique.

900
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 18: And what they had believed was that the pennant was

901
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 18: made from some relative's wedding rings, like your grandmother and

902
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:41,840
Speaker 18: grandfather's wedding rings. They called the other brother and he said, oh, no,

903
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 18: I have those rings. He bought that In the Bronx somewhere.

904
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 18: So two or three weeks after this they have that information,

905
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 18: they don't disclose it to the defense, and.

906
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:53,320
Speaker 4: Then they argue that it's a unique, one of a

907
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 4: kind pendit what.

908
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 3: It's a little bit more also in there when you

909
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:59,760
Speaker 3: look at and you read the notes in there, Ballant

910
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 3: Nathan clearly told Stoke Schaefer, that's not my mother's right.

911
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 18: Yeah, he couldn't even identify it.

912
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 10: Yeah.

913
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 16: When they initially showed them the pendent, some of the

914
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:14,279
Speaker 16: family members were like, no, that doesn't look like And

915
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 16: then they're like, well, well we're saying we found it

916
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:18,439
Speaker 16: on Elwood and they're like, oh, well then it must

917
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 16: be here.

918
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 3: Oh my god, and went on to say, what would

919
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:24,359
Speaker 3: you say now you would have to swear I need

920
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:27,239
Speaker 3: for oh and I'm trying to figure out like where

921
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,239
Speaker 3: all this comes from, right man?

922
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:31,880
Speaker 5: So can you get any Social Security?

923
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:32,839
Speaker 4: Yes?

924
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 3: I can get I get my disability. I can't get

925
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 3: full social security and too as clear to something and

926
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 3: I can know the job.

927
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 4: Uh, I have the state to be have to favor

928
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 4: them out.

929
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:44,799
Speaker 1: Man.

930
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 5: Oh, you need some more hours to get your full

931
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 5: so security? How many hours you need?

932
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 4: Eleven quarters? Eleven quarter.

933
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 18: I think you have to work for it's still forty quarters.

934
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 5: I think, okay, you need eleven more quarters and then

935
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 5: you can get full social security just under four years.

936
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 4: Jeez, man, you will boy, yeah, you will make it.

937
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:09,279
Speaker 4: You gonna make it. I mean, thirty years in jail.

938
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 4: You got something to live for now, you know what

939
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:13,799
Speaker 4: I mean. You got your freedom to live for now.

940
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:14,360
Speaker 4: You can see it.

941
00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 5: It's right there, but for some reason they just won't

942
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 5: let you grab it.

943
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 2: Man.

944
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 5: So is anything people can do for you? I mean

945
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 5: people out there want to help you out?

946
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:25,440
Speaker 4: I don't. I guess if somebody had a little part

947
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 4: time job or something for you, that will work too, definite.

948
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 4: Mainly what I need is a job job, Okay.

949
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 3: I need people to just figure out the ways to

950
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:36,880
Speaker 3: have to make the prosecutors stand up and do what

951
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:39,839
Speaker 3: she campaign on doing the right thing.

952
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 18: Yes, and that's I think one of the things that

953
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 18: people can do if they want to be proactive is

954
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 18: called the prosecutor's office. Yes, and just let them know

955
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:53,279
Speaker 18: that what they want to see happening, that people are

956
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 18: watching this.

957
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah.

958
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 18: And it's a test of whether she will have the

959
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 18: integrity that she ran on to do the right thing.

960
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 4: Man, oh man, hold on, we got a caller for you. Ray,

961
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 4: you have a question, Yeah, I do.

962
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 2: First of all, when it comes to the prosecutor, we've

963
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 2: already made our feelings and known what she should do,

964
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 2: and like I said earlier, that she's just going to

965
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:14,840
Speaker 2: wait for the process. But let me ask you this

966
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 2: the evidence that Joe Dieter said, because he said that

967
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 2: the jury, it wouldn't have affected the jurid at all

968
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 2: at all on those what was the evidence? They talk

969
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 2: about the evidence, but they don't say what it was,

970
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 2: So what was it?

971
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 8: Well?

972
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 18: I think one of the things we just talked about,

973
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 18: and that we could have a day's conversation about that.

974
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 16: We had a three day hearing, We had a three

975
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 16: day hand on it didn't even scratch the surface.

976
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 18: But the highlights are the fact that this pendent that

977
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 18: prosecutors held out at trial as being unique family heirloom

978
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:51,920
Speaker 18: handmade wasn't well and it probably wasn't even found in

979
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 18: his car, right, But that hasn't necessarily change the outcome.

980
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 18: It's the fact that they withheld that information from the defense.

981
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 18: They never got a change as to present that in

982
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:01,479
Speaker 18: front of the jury.

983
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 2: Right now, let me say. Let me say this back

984
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 2: back in those days, and this is how evil police

985
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 2: were back in those days. As long as they got someone,

986
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter if it was Ellwood or anyone else

987
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 2: in this country. And that thing is, as long as

988
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:19,919
Speaker 2: they got someone, they were happy, and then the DA

989
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 2: or the prosecutor would get re elected. I think that's

990
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 2: what it was all about. Do you share those thoughts?

991
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 4: I share.

992
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 3: They may not because of the eternity, but I definitely share.

993
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 3: And then with Joe didis head end in his office,

994
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 3: it's always been crooked and I don't see even the

995
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 3: day as any changed with even Connie Pilget's in there,

996
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 3: because they're still going down that same path. Yeah, it's

997
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 3: not just only about me. I'm just a centerpiece right now,

998
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 3: but it's it's several of the cases.

999
00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 16: So I think from my standpoint, you know, without trying

1000
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 16: to guess at what their motivations were, you can look

1001
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 16: at just sort of the evidence that was presented at

1002
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 16: the hearing. One of the witnesses that came forward was

1003
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 16: a woman named de Laura Suggs, who testified that she

1004
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 16: called the Blue Ash Police Department before Elwood's trial and

1005
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 16: reported that another man confessed to the murder and framing

1006
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 16: a black man for it, and the response that she

1007
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 16: received from the Blue Ash Police Department was no, we've

1008
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 16: got our guy. And so without getting into what motivations,

1009
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 16: you know, the prosecutors might have had or anything like that,

1010
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 16: I think that the evidence does suggest that the police

1011
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 16: were happy that they found someone without really considering whether

1012
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 16: it was the right one.

1013
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 4: Well, all we can do is keep pressure on the prosecutor,

1014
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 4: like you say, and every time I talk to her,

1015
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 4: I bring your name up, Elle, would I bring your

1016
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 4: name up? And it's just a waiting game. I guess

1017
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 4: she's just gonna wait. So you know, she don't want

1018
00:59:57,160 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 4: to be the one she wants the Supreme Court to

1019
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:01,760
Speaker 4: do her job. I guess you know what I mean.

1020
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know.

1021
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 5: That's what it seems like to me.

1022
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:07,600
Speaker 4: Instead of just stepping up and dismissed the charges, drop

1023
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 4: the charges and let this man go on and live

1024
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:12,480
Speaker 4: out the rest of his life, I mean, that seems

1025
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 4: like the best thing that can happen.

1026
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 18: I think with the understanding that there can never be

1027
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 18: a retrial, and even if there were, with the amount

1028
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 18: of evidence that was withheld. I don't think there's any

1029
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:25,800
Speaker 18: way if we had a trial to all their witnesses

1030
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 18: were alive, if we had that trial today, they don't

1031
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 18: get a conviction now, not close. Yeah. Yeah, And I

1032
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 18: think that's the injustice of it all. And I think

1033
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 18: it's an injustice to el Will, but it's also in

1034
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:36,960
Speaker 18: justice to the Nathan family.

1035
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 4: One final call here, Lindsey, real quick, Yes, sir.

1036
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 14: I talked to you last time, you said, missus Jones.

1037
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 14: I'd just like to say about the Social Security and

1038
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 14: SSI I found. I wrote a letter to Washington and

1039
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 14: told him I was socially had to cap. I got

1040
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:57,320
Speaker 14: Social Security and SSI. When I applied for my Social

1041
01:00:57,320 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 14: Security it was in twenty sixteen. Me a record from

1042
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:05,280
Speaker 14: nineteen sixty six to twenty sixteen. I had three legal jobs,

1043
01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:08,960
Speaker 14: didn't make over twenty thousand dollars, but I received my

1044
01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 14: Social Security. I had life plus five in the state

1045
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 14: of California. I did twenty three years. I got out

1046
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 14: in twenty ten. I went in in nineteen ninety one,

1047
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 14: two years fighting the case, three trials, and then I

1048
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 14: got out and my sister told me go file Social Security.

1049
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:26,720
Speaker 9: I did.

1050
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 14: They shot me down I went to talk to a

1051
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:31,320
Speaker 14: lawyer of Ray Street. He told me that if you

1052
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 14: had a broke leg, you wouldn't get Social Security on

1053
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 14: the first time. So I asked him, well, give me

1054
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 14: the address. I wrote, Washington, d C. Two weeks later

1055
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 14: I had two checks. You sociated handicapped? You did over

1056
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 14: twenty years. Brother, that's the term you have to use.

1057
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 14: They're not going to tell you that, and they'll give

1058
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 14: it to you. Trust me.

1059
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:49,760
Speaker 9: Oh that's all I have to say.

1060
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 5: Hey, all right, lindsay, that was good, good information.

1061
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 4: Socially handicapped, been in jail twenty seven years? Okay, all right,

1062
01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:59,040
Speaker 4: might want to check that out. All right, Well, thank

1063
01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:01,640
Speaker 4: you guys for joining me. And you know, if you

1064
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 4: hear something, let us know. We want to get you back.

1065
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 4: We want to get you in here. When you can

1066
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:08,960
Speaker 4: say I'm a freeman now, cases charges have been dropped,

1067
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:11,640
Speaker 4: cases over and I can live the rest of my life.

1068
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:14,200
Speaker 4: That's when I want to see you again. Elwood Jones,

1069
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 4: thank you for having And Tamaya Donar. She doesn't work

1070
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:21,600
Speaker 4: for City Link anymore, but she was, you know, getting

1071
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 4: people jobs, and she might be able to point you out.

1072
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 4: I'll try to get in touch with her Toma Denar

1073
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:30,760
Speaker 4: and see if she can guide you in the direction.

1074
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:33,040
Speaker 4: She doesn't work there anymore, but she might be able

1075
01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 4: to help you. All right, Thank you off for joining me.

1076
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:40,840
Speaker 4: David Hind, Jay Clark, and Elwood Jones with us this morning.

1077
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:42,919
Speaker 4: Thank you all for joining me. Let's take a break.

1078
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 4: Twelve thirty the Buzz. It's Lincoln.

1079
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:51,840
Speaker 5: Where it is Tuesday? Yes, it is Johnny Taylor there? Okay,

1080
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:53,680
Speaker 5: Clarence Clarence Terrence.

1081
01:02:56,560 --> 01:02:57,160
Speaker 4: Don't you there?

1082
01:02:57,240 --> 01:02:58,680
Speaker 7: For Charlie Winburn on me.

1083
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:05,560
Speaker 4: Charlie Winburg called you, Clarence Clarence. And speaking of Charlie Winburn,

1084
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:09,840
Speaker 4: his former chief of staff was in the paper. His

1085
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:14,040
Speaker 4: former chief of staff, uh Ron Moseby was in the

1086
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:19,479
Speaker 4: paper about I guess his his late three year old daughter.

1087
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:23,520
Speaker 4: And he's got a coffee shop now and a whole

1088
01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:25,200
Speaker 4: bit out in Cole Raine Township.

1089
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:29,560
Speaker 5: Ron Moseby, Yeah, I saw him. Where did I see him?

1090
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:30,600
Speaker 8: Oh?

1091
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 4: I saw him at Lisa Baker's retirement party, and he

1092
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:35,480
Speaker 4: told me to come out to his little coffee shop

1093
01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 4: over there in Cole Raine Township. I'm gonna have to

1094
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 4: stop out there and see Ron Moseby, former chief of

1095
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:45,920
Speaker 4: staff for Charlie Winburn. Man Winburg used to run him

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01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:46,440
Speaker 4: around like.

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Speaker 5: Ron, run, Ryan, do this run, I need this.

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01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:57,640
Speaker 4: Run this unbelievable, unbelievable. All right, uh five one, three,

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01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:02,160
Speaker 4: seven thirty Lincoln awhere with you, and let's see we

1100
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:02,640
Speaker 4: might as well.

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01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:07,120
Speaker 5: We were going to take a break and then we

1102
01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:07,600
Speaker 5: come back.

1103
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 4: We've got TIERR. Powell in the studio talking about something's

1104
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:19,240
Speaker 4: coming up with the city and housing and all kinds

1105
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:22,640
Speaker 4: of stuff going on with the city, and we'll talk.

1106
01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:23,360
Speaker 5: To her about that.

1107
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:30,400
Speaker 4: But I mean, twenty seven years in jail and they

1108
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:32,880
Speaker 4: still got him. It's just like he's still in jail.

1109
01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 4: It's just like he's still in jail. I mean, and

1110
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:42,880
Speaker 4: you can tell he's sad, he's happy that he's out

1111
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:47,080
Speaker 4: of jail, but it's still like there's bars around him,

1112
01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. He just can't get that

1113
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:55,360
Speaker 4: one bit of information from the Supreme Court or from

1114
01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 4: Connie pill And she could end it today with the

1115
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 4: stroke of a p He could be a free man today.

1116
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:06,440
Speaker 4: But then you got to worry about lawsuits. That's what

1117
01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 4: they're worried about. Well, let's try to wait him out.

1118
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:14,680
Speaker 4: Maybe he'll die first, and he won't sue us. That's

1119
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:18,240
Speaker 4: that's all I can see that they they're waiting, this

1120
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:22,960
Speaker 4: waiting game. After twenty seven years, there's still waiting. All right,

1121
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:25,080
Speaker 4: we gonna take a break and then we'll yeah, before.

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01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:26,760
Speaker 7: We go to break, how about another giveaway, mister ware.

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01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:30,880
Speaker 4: We can have a couple the Preservation Hall Jazz Band

1124
01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:36,360
Speaker 4: a Creole Christmas at the Tap Theater December eleventh.

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01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:38,960
Speaker 5: Sounds like it's going to be pretty good. We'll have

1126
01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 5: to check it out.

1127
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:43,480
Speaker 4: If you call her number five at seven four nine

1128
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:46,400
Speaker 4: twelve thirty, call her number five.

1129
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:48,760
Speaker 5: The tickets are yours.

1130
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:53,360
Speaker 4: Call her five at seven four nine twelve thirty, and

1131
01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:57,160
Speaker 4: if you call her five, we'll give you those tickets.

1132
01:05:57,400 --> 01:05:59,920
Speaker 4: And I can't believe we still haven't heard from late

1133
01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 4: and her date. We have not heard from Lady C.

1134
01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:08,800
Speaker 4: We might have to call her, Terrence Howard, we might

1135
01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 4: have to call Lady C. Because I'm anxious to hear

1136
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:16,040
Speaker 4: her side of the story. We'll see you calling one.

1137
01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:18,720
Speaker 4: I'm looking for five. You calling number two.

1138
01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:20,480
Speaker 5: I'm looking for five.

1139
01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:24,919
Speaker 4: You call her three. I'm looking for five. You calling

1140
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:29,640
Speaker 4: number four. Oh boy, I'm looking for five. You're calling

1141
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:31,120
Speaker 4: number five. What's your name.

1142
01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:33,800
Speaker 2: Hey, my name is Calvin.

1143
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:37,080
Speaker 4: Calvin. Congratulations, you got yourself a pair of tickets to

1144
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:42,440
Speaker 4: the Preservation Hall Jazz Band of Creole Christmas on December eleventh,

1145
01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:44,560
Speaker 4: over at the Taff Theater. What part of town you

1146
01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:45,200
Speaker 4: call him from?

1147
01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:48,840
Speaker 2: I'm calling from that from Avondale, but I'm originally from

1148
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:50,680
Speaker 2: New Orleans, Oh, Nolans.

1149
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:53,840
Speaker 4: All right, Okay, that's one of my favorite places to go.

1150
01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:57,720
Speaker 4: They have the best gumbo ever. I love to eat

1151
01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:01,320
Speaker 4: that gumbo down there, you know what I mean? All right?

1152
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:02,080
Speaker 4: All right?

1153
01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:03,640
Speaker 5: What station just made you a winner?

1154
01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:07,400
Speaker 2: Twelve Hold on.

1155
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 5: All right, there you go.

1156
01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:12,600
Speaker 4: Let's take a break and then we'll come back twelve thirty.

1157
01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:15,720
Speaker 4: The buzz and in the studio with me no other

1158
01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 4: than Tierra Powell. And when you see Tierre, you know

1159
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:22,040
Speaker 4: she's got something going on with development or housing or something.

1160
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:27,280
Speaker 4: The city is having a big development developmental conference or something.

1161
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:27,919
Speaker 4: What is it called?

1162
01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:31,000
Speaker 19: So is the Developers Conference? Last year it was the

1163
01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:34,840
Speaker 19: Black Developers Conference. So City of Cincinnati and Fifth Third

1164
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:38,480
Speaker 19: Bank are actually the leading sponsors on this. So sorry, y'all,

1165
01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:40,800
Speaker 19: my voice is my sientus is kicking my butt. But

1166
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:42,440
Speaker 19: I just wanted to come in and talk about it

1167
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:44,160
Speaker 19: a little bit because they're doing something a little bit

1168
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:47,760
Speaker 19: different this year. You know, Derek Dansby is the kind

1169
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:50,160
Speaker 19: of brain child around this and what we're doing. On

1170
01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:54,000
Speaker 19: the Thursday, September eighteenth, as we are doing a bus tour,

1171
01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:56,400
Speaker 19: so we're going to go to a couple different sites

1172
01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:59,360
Speaker 19: around the city that needs some development. The communities are

1173
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:01,920
Speaker 19: welcome and develop em so we'll be stopping in Westwood,

1174
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:05,840
Speaker 19: We'll be stopping by the Old Swift and Commons and

1175
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:09,080
Speaker 19: some spots in west End as well, and then the

1176
01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:14,120
Speaker 19: second day on the nineteenth at the Graduate Hotel, we'll

1177
01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:19,080
Speaker 19: be doing different seminars and sessions around getting into development,

1178
01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:21,800
Speaker 19: whether you want to be an investor, actual developer or

1179
01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:25,200
Speaker 19: even construction management. Vice Mayor Kearney is really big on

1180
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:28,360
Speaker 19: how they open up the clubhouse, so there's a panel

1181
01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:32,320
Speaker 19: about that. We also have a couple of different organizations

1182
01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:36,040
Speaker 19: talking about their training program so that these smaller developers

1183
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 19: and smaller companies are able to hire people from within

1184
01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:42,280
Speaker 19: the community who have learned this skill set. So you

1185
01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:45,720
Speaker 19: can go to build Sincy dot org to register to

1186
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:48,559
Speaker 19: sign up for the bus tour and or to sit

1187
01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:50,760
Speaker 19: in on one of the sessions and so that's next week,

1188
01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:52,880
Speaker 19: so it's coming up quick, so make sure you secure

1189
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:56,320
Speaker 19: your spot and it's built sincy with then why dot

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01:08:56,640 --> 01:08:57,400
Speaker 19: org All.

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01:08:57,360 --> 01:08:59,760
Speaker 4: Right now a lot I mean people think when you

1192
01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:03,599
Speaker 4: say developer, they think you got to really think big

1193
01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:07,000
Speaker 4: to be a developer. You can be a small time developer.

1194
01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:09,760
Speaker 19: Yeah, you can own one or two properties and they're

1195
01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:12,760
Speaker 19: considered a developer. You'll be surprised how many people in

1196
01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:15,680
Speaker 19: the community have flipped the house or two here or

1197
01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:18,280
Speaker 19: there and they just need a way to scale up

1198
01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:19,960
Speaker 19: if that's what they're wanting to do. And then you

1199
01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:22,880
Speaker 19: also have developers that are coming to this because some

1200
01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:25,800
Speaker 19: of the sessions talk about how to obtain government contracts,

1201
01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:28,240
Speaker 19: how to obtain that government funding, how to get the

1202
01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:31,439
Speaker 19: different certifications. And this is absolutely free, so this is

1203
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:33,519
Speaker 19: open to a little bit of everybody, even if you

1204
01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:36,040
Speaker 19: just have a peak interest. All of our sessions and

1205
01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:37,760
Speaker 19: who will be a part of them are listed on

1206
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:39,880
Speaker 19: the website, so you can go on there and come

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01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:40,960
Speaker 19: in and out as you please.

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01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:45,320
Speaker 5: Okay, all right, So and I know this guy West Africa.

1209
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:48,080
Speaker 4: Do you know him? I know him, yeah, yeah, and

1210
01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:51,120
Speaker 4: he's doing a lot of developing over there by the

1211
01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:56,479
Speaker 4: what is the viatuc the new viaduct that's going in

1212
01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:58,640
Speaker 4: over there. Yeah, so he's getting a big jump on that,

1213
01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:01,559
Speaker 4: so he's got to go going on. I hope that he.

1214
01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:03,280
Speaker 19: Reaches out because we may need to get him on

1215
01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:04,960
Speaker 19: the panel. We still got a couple that we can

1216
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:07,760
Speaker 19: put people on, but I definitely hope that folks like

1217
01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:10,360
Speaker 19: him come and just see what we have to talk

1218
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:12,880
Speaker 19: about and they may be able to even partake, participate

1219
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:13,599
Speaker 19: and help us out.

1220
01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:15,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, it sounds good.

1221
01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:16,720
Speaker 4: When and where? Give the information once?

1222
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:20,400
Speaker 19: So it is September eighteenth and nineteenth. The bus tours

1223
01:10:20,439 --> 01:10:22,720
Speaker 19: obviously around the city. We have a charter bus and

1224
01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:25,360
Speaker 19: then the rest of the sessions are at the Graduate

1225
01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:28,599
Speaker 19: Hotel in Clifton. But go to build Simsey dot org

1226
01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:31,559
Speaker 19: to register get all the information on the sessions as

1227
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:34,880
Speaker 19: well as to see the specific times of where we

1228
01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:36,400
Speaker 19: would be on that bus tour.

1229
01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:39,599
Speaker 4: All right, sounds good to me, Tierra Powell. Always great

1230
01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:42,960
Speaker 4: to see you. I know, tell jam Michelle that we

1231
01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:43,599
Speaker 4: said hi.

1232
01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:46,320
Speaker 19: Jam Michelle lemon Kearney. She likes when you say her

1233
01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:48,120
Speaker 19: full name because people have to see.

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01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:55,360
Speaker 4: Her whole name when they get to JML Jan Michelle

1235
01:10:55,479 --> 01:10:57,479
Speaker 4: lemon Kearney. All Right, there we go. You all right,

1236
01:10:57,560 --> 01:10:59,880
Speaker 4: Tierra Powell, thank you for stopping by giving us that

1237
01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:03,360
Speaker 4: information from the city of Cincinnati.

1238
01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:06,799
Speaker 5: All right. Five one three seven, four nine, twelve thirty.

1239
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:10,240
Speaker 4: Someone wanted to know, has anyone seen the viral video

1240
01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:13,320
Speaker 4: of the stabbing death of the Ukrainian refuge e wrong

1241
01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:14,200
Speaker 4: woman on the train?

1242
01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:14,639
Speaker 18: Yeah?

1243
01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:15,720
Speaker 5: I saw that man.

1244
01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:18,559
Speaker 4: The black guy just came in sitting right behind her

1245
01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:21,400
Speaker 4: and he just got up and start stabbing her.

1246
01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:24,840
Speaker 5: I'm like, what the hell is going on?

1247
01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:29,240
Speaker 4: What is going on in the world nowadays?

1248
01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:31,599
Speaker 5: This is just crazy.

1249
01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:38,960
Speaker 4: Yeah. Vernon Jordan said, West Africa is a serious dude.

1250
01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:43,000
Speaker 4: He's about business. Yeah, he's the man. He's the man.

1251
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:48,640
Speaker 4: West Africa is the man. Yes, all right. Five one

1252
01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:51,559
Speaker 4: three seven four nine, twelve thirty. Yeah, what would make

1253
01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:55,960
Speaker 4: this black guy. I don't think he knew she was Ukrainian.

1254
01:11:56,360 --> 01:11:58,840
Speaker 4: I don't think that he was just gonna stab whoever

1255
01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:01,640
Speaker 4: was sitting there. I do believe they trying to make

1256
01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:04,080
Speaker 4: a big deal out of it because she's a Ukrainian,

1257
01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:07,200
Speaker 4: But I don't think that had anything to do with it.

1258
01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:10,479
Speaker 4: I don't think it had anything to do with it.

1259
01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:14,800
Speaker 4: I think it was all just he was gonna stabb

1260
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:24,719
Speaker 4: somebody and she just happened to be there. Yeah, unbelievable. Unbelievable.

1261
01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:30,200
Speaker 4: But I mean she's just sitting there minding her own business,

1262
01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:40,360
Speaker 4: not bothering anybody. Unbelievable. All right, let's see. Oh yeah,

1263
01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:45,320
Speaker 4: and while my man Elwood Jones was in the studio.

1264
01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:51,000
Speaker 4: While he was here in the studio, I'm looking at

1265
01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:55,840
Speaker 4: seeing in news and I just saw, believe that twenty

1266
01:12:56,360 --> 01:13:01,960
Speaker 4: man charges drop let out of prison for after being

1267
01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:04,800
Speaker 4: in there twenty seven years for crime he didn't commit.

1268
01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:06,880
Speaker 4: I think this was up in New York if I'm

1269
01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:10,360
Speaker 4: not mistaken, right there on the news while he was

1270
01:13:10,439 --> 01:13:16,040
Speaker 4: here in the studio, twenty seven years, same amount of

1271
01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:19,280
Speaker 4: years he spent on death row. You gotta realize he

1272
01:13:19,479 --> 01:13:23,000
Speaker 4: wasn't just in prison. He was on death row. Now

1273
01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:25,720
Speaker 4: do they I meant to ask him this, does he.

1274
01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:28,840
Speaker 5: Is he separated from the rest of the prisoners if

1275
01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:30,280
Speaker 5: he's on death row? I don't know.

1276
01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:32,920
Speaker 4: I have to ask him that the next time I seen.

1277
01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:37,600
Speaker 4: I'm not sure how you're treated differently if you're on

1278
01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:42,599
Speaker 4: death row than if you're in there for twenty ten

1279
01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:44,160
Speaker 4: twenty thirty years. I don't know.

1280
01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:48,240
Speaker 5: Do they treat you differently if you're getting ready to die?

1281
01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:53,320
Speaker 4: I don't know. I'll ask that the next time I

1282
01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:59,600
Speaker 4: see him, for sure, man. But just to be in

1283
01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:04,559
Speaker 4: jail hell that long, and you know you didn't commit

1284
01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:10,240
Speaker 4: a crime and you're just there, that's got to eat

1285
01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:14,720
Speaker 4: you up from the inside, got to eat you up.

1286
01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:24,760
Speaker 5: Man. And can you believe taste of Belgium closed? Can't

1287
01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:25,200
Speaker 5: believe it?

1288
01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:30,840
Speaker 4: Right there and over the rhine, taste the Belgium close

1289
01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:39,479
Speaker 4: down all of a sudden. Man. I've been in there

1290
01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:45,560
Speaker 4: a few times. But the governor's in town today, supposedly,

1291
01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:57,200
Speaker 4: and with his big plan for Cincinnati, his safety plan unbelievable.

1292
01:14:58,160 --> 01:15:05,320
Speaker 4: The guy who was convicted of trying to kill a

1293
01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:11,559
Speaker 4: police officer was sentenced to third was sentenced to twenty

1294
01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:15,240
Speaker 4: two years in prison for trying to keep I remember

1295
01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:20,640
Speaker 4: when that happened down there. I saw your point. The

1296
01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:26,000
Speaker 4: guy attacked him, tried to gouge his eyes out, and

1297
01:15:26,160 --> 01:15:30,439
Speaker 4: luckily helped got there before anything happened. But he was

1298
01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:32,479
Speaker 4: and he was a crazy guy. He came in the

1299
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:37,080
Speaker 4: courtroom talking to himself and I'm like, oh, they gonna

1300
01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:43,320
Speaker 4: they're gonna this guy's gonna be mentally insane. But nope,

1301
01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:48,200
Speaker 4: they got him and he's going to jail for at

1302
01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:56,559
Speaker 4: least twenty two years. Man, But he tried to gouge

1303
01:15:56,640 --> 01:15:59,080
Speaker 4: the guys out. And I did they ever say whether

1304
01:15:59,160 --> 01:16:04,760
Speaker 4: that was Charmaine mcguffey's brother. He was an officer. Terry

1305
01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:08,000
Speaker 4: McGuffey is his name. I don't know whether he was

1306
01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:11,720
Speaker 4: related to Charmaine or not. I don't know.

1307
01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:17,879
Speaker 5: But this guy he used, he used the police officer's

1308
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Speaker 5: taser on him.

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01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:25,160
Speaker 4: And beat him with it. Oh, man, it was just crazy.

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01:16:25,280 --> 01:16:31,360
Speaker 4: This guy really tried to kill this police officer. He

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01:16:31,439 --> 01:16:34,000
Speaker 4: wanted to kill a white police Officer's what he said.

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Speaker 5: Unbelievable. All right, we're gonna take a break and then

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Speaker 5: we'll come back.

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Speaker 4: Five one, three, seven, four, nine, twelve thirty Lincoln where

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01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:46,639
Speaker 4: on a Tuesday, twelve thirty, the buzz your talk station

1316
01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:49,720
Speaker 4: and everybody's trying to figure out who this person is

1317
01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:52,519
Speaker 4: on Facebook live chat, King Boss.

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01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:57,840
Speaker 5: He calls himself. He called Ross Little ras X.

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01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:05,280
Speaker 7: I think Ross deserved that one.

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Speaker 4: That he did. Did Little Ro's X. Unbelievable, unbelievable. All

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01:17:12,280 --> 01:17:14,080
Speaker 4: he needs to do now is you put on his

1322
01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:17,040
Speaker 4: little underwear and walk down the street, walk down the

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01:17:17,080 --> 01:17:20,800
Speaker 4: streets of Cincinnati. And that would fit him to a

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01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:25,200
Speaker 4: t all right. Five, one, three, seven, four, nine, twelve thirty.

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Speaker 5: Let's go to Joyce. Hey, loud voice, Joyce.

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Speaker 9: How you doing, Hi, Lincoln, how you doing.

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01:17:31,520 --> 01:17:33,000
Speaker 2: I'm hanging in there well good.

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01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:36,599
Speaker 8: Last week we saw the little doubler throw a rocket

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01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:41,080
Speaker 8: then hide. But he couldn't because lying on me will

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01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:43,840
Speaker 8: not get you anywhere. When I talk, I say what

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01:17:43,960 --> 01:17:46,240
Speaker 8: I mean, if I made a mistake, I'm like doubler.

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01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:49,040
Speaker 8: I would say I made a mistake. But he continues

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01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:53,400
Speaker 8: to double down on Donald Trump the pedophole. Basically, or allegedly,

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01:17:53,960 --> 01:17:57,080
Speaker 8: Donald Trump and his son is trying to say his

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01:17:57,280 --> 01:18:01,600
Speaker 8: children that he barely knew Jeffrey Epstein. That's just I know.

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01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:03,360
Speaker 5: And that's his signature.

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01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:04,679
Speaker 4: That is his signature.

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01:18:04,720 --> 01:18:06,519
Speaker 6: I'm telling you courses to his signature.

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01:18:06,760 --> 01:18:12,160
Speaker 8: The Senate and the Congress got the book from the estate.

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01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:15,560
Speaker 8: It was done in two thousand and three or six, so,

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01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:19,160
Speaker 8: and he knew that many these many years later that

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01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:22,240
Speaker 8: this can be a forgery and be needed to be forged. No,

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01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:24,840
Speaker 8: he did it then and that's what he is behind

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01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:27,479
Speaker 8: with Jeffrey Epstein. He said that Jeffrey stole the girl.

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01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:32,040
Speaker 8: And you know that human trafficking, especially right now, we're

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01:18:32,200 --> 01:18:35,599
Speaker 8: so well aware of it, but in establishments like five

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01:18:36,680 --> 01:18:42,400
Speaker 8: and different hotels, even casinos, this is where human trafficking

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01:18:42,520 --> 01:18:46,880
Speaker 8: can be found. And there's laws against establishments like Marlago

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01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:53,519
Speaker 8: harboring and trafficking teenagers. And that's what Donald was going.

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01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:56,400
Speaker 8: And see the law should have been on Donald and

1351
01:18:56,520 --> 01:18:58,680
Speaker 8: Jeffrey Epstein a long time ago for what they did.

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01:18:58,960 --> 01:19:02,280
Speaker 8: They even had a private session Jeffrey Epstein and Donald

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01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:05,439
Speaker 8: Trump with a group of models and a man thought

1354
01:19:05,479 --> 01:19:07,600
Speaker 8: that he was bringing these models in front of a

1355
01:19:07,680 --> 01:19:10,400
Speaker 8: lot of people, didn't you heard? You read that article

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01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:15,000
Speaker 8: the Man's food Donald Trump, and he only Jeffrey and

1357
01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:18,600
Speaker 8: Donald were looking at these young girls. So where is

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01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:22,040
Speaker 8: a white liar when you talk about these subjects? Because

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01:19:22,479 --> 01:19:26,799
Speaker 8: he and what about too dumb? Are too bitter because

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01:19:27,040 --> 01:19:31,200
Speaker 8: these are real subjects that really has happened, and they

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01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:33,800
Speaker 8: never comment on it all twoth we want to talk

1362
01:19:33,840 --> 01:19:37,719
Speaker 8: about is baseball games or what happened with the Let's

1363
01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:40,320
Speaker 8: talk about what happened with the pedophile Donald Trump? And

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01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:44,519
Speaker 8: Jeffrey Epstein and Twin, you continue to take up for

1365
01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:49,000
Speaker 8: the pedophile criminal and it's just disgusting that you still do.

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01:19:49,360 --> 01:19:51,360
Speaker 8: And don't mention my name unless you're going to tell

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01:19:51,400 --> 01:19:55,040
Speaker 8: the truth, Twin, because all you're doing now is fetching water.

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01:19:55,320 --> 01:19:58,120
Speaker 8: And you know when he said, this is what he said.

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01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:02,720
Speaker 8: That's the stay Troopers and the National Guard should be

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01:20:02,840 --> 01:20:03,719
Speaker 8: called to Chicago.

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Speaker 2: Didn't he say that?

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01:20:04,840 --> 01:20:05,040
Speaker 4: Yep?

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01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:08,160
Speaker 8: And what the game is in Chicago?

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01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:10,080
Speaker 2: Going to fake? He said?

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01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:14,280
Speaker 8: Now that's all I he better know that's through rock

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01:20:14,439 --> 01:20:16,799
Speaker 8: and hat and it won't work out in Chicago.

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01:20:17,120 --> 01:20:18,080
Speaker 2: So don't go back.

1378
01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:22,120
Speaker 4: I don't think he's going back.

1379
01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:24,040
Speaker 8: I don't think he's going back at all.

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01:20:24,160 --> 01:20:26,880
Speaker 4: Okay, good talking to you, all right, Joey, thanks for

1381
01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:30,960
Speaker 4: your Kyle unbelievable. Oh White Lion wanted to talk to Joyce.

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01:20:31,040 --> 01:20:34,080
Speaker 4: I just see that up there now. Uh, maybe he'll

1383
01:20:34,160 --> 01:20:37,200
Speaker 4: run like like Twin did. I don't know.

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01:20:38,040 --> 01:20:38,160
Speaker 6: Uh.

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01:20:39,040 --> 01:20:40,840
Speaker 4: I don't know what he wants to say to Joyce,

1386
01:20:41,360 --> 01:20:43,720
Speaker 4: but maybe she'll call back if she wants to talk

1387
01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:44,000
Speaker 4: to him.

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01:20:44,080 --> 01:20:47,960
Speaker 9: Ow, how are you respect? Loving blushes? Lincoln? Thanks for

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01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:48,599
Speaker 9: taking my car?

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Speaker 4: What's going on?

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01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:51,080
Speaker 15: Yeah?

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01:20:52,520 --> 01:20:55,840
Speaker 9: I wanted to moms dressed a couple of elephants in

1393
01:20:55,920 --> 01:20:58,640
Speaker 9: the room that you kind of you kind of touched on.

1394
01:20:59,240 --> 01:21:03,280
Speaker 9: But as far as justice for us, you know, the

1395
01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:06,719
Speaker 9: black community, we can't be looking for you know, justice

1396
01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:09,880
Speaker 9: or for the white man any other man to come

1397
01:21:10,120 --> 01:21:14,080
Speaker 9: and save us. It's just not going to happen. We

1398
01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:16,360
Speaker 9: should see the writing on the wall and do the

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01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:20,320
Speaker 9: best we can not to associate ourselves with them or

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01:21:20,360 --> 01:21:23,439
Speaker 9: their system, because it's not for us. It's not for

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01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:30,160
Speaker 9: us to continue to get beat down and disrespect it

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01:21:30,880 --> 01:21:33,040
Speaker 9: when we're trying to do the right thing.

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01:21:34,520 --> 01:21:38,120
Speaker 5: Okay, who was beat who was beat down? Was that

1404
01:21:38,280 --> 01:21:39,360
Speaker 5: was trying to do the right thing?

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01:21:41,360 --> 01:21:42,880
Speaker 9: You just had to the man?

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01:21:43,439 --> 01:21:46,720
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, talking about Elwood Jones. Yeah right, you know,

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01:21:46,920 --> 01:21:51,080
Speaker 4: I mean, uh, they planted the evidence and it's clear

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01:21:51,080 --> 01:21:54,960
Speaker 4: as day, and uh, I mean it's just.

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01:21:56,000 --> 01:21:58,280
Speaker 9: But but the guys that was in the well, the

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01:21:58,479 --> 01:22:02,400
Speaker 9: lawyers that were in there, they didn't say those exact words.

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01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:06,160
Speaker 9: They plant the evidence and we're dealing with crooked cops

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01:22:06,640 --> 01:22:13,040
Speaker 9: and the officer's name is x y Z. And I

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01:22:13,080 --> 01:22:16,200
Speaker 9: don't want to say they can't do that because if

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01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:20,720
Speaker 9: you're a part of a certain club, then you got

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01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:24,559
Speaker 9: to follow the club rules, no matter what you've done

1416
01:22:25,840 --> 01:22:30,240
Speaker 9: and what you're accused of doing. And you know, you know,

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01:22:30,479 --> 01:22:33,240
Speaker 9: it's an unfortunate thing. If you don't know, you just

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01:22:33,320 --> 01:22:35,240
Speaker 9: don't know. But you're a part of that club too,

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01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:36,320
Speaker 9: I'm not, you.

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01:22:36,360 --> 01:22:38,960
Speaker 4: Know, a part of that club. How am I part

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01:22:39,040 --> 01:22:43,479
Speaker 4: of it? I mean, now, I mean what?

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01:22:43,680 --> 01:22:44,000
Speaker 6: How am I?

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01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:47,000
Speaker 4: No mention? Just tell me how am I part of

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01:22:47,040 --> 01:22:50,120
Speaker 4: that club? If I got a name, I mentioned a name,

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01:22:50,200 --> 01:22:51,160
Speaker 4: What are you talking about?

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01:22:52,600 --> 01:22:56,200
Speaker 9: If you're a Mason, if you're oh my god, oh geez,

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01:22:57,439 --> 01:22:58,479
Speaker 9: I'm part of that club?

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01:22:59,600 --> 01:23:04,400
Speaker 15: Well, Lincoln, listen. It's a need to know, basis. When

1429
01:23:04,439 --> 01:23:07,840
Speaker 15: you're dealing with when you're dealing with groups, Okay, when

1430
01:23:07,880 --> 01:23:10,640
Speaker 15: you're dealing with groups and they have rules.

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01:23:10,479 --> 01:23:14,240
Speaker 9: And rituals and things of that nature, it's a need

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01:23:14,360 --> 01:23:18,479
Speaker 9: to know basis. So if you don't go through all

1433
01:23:18,560 --> 01:23:21,200
Speaker 9: the steps, you don't get all of the information. And

1434
01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:23,760
Speaker 9: even if you go through all the steps, you still

1435
01:23:23,840 --> 01:23:28,080
Speaker 9: don't get all of the information because it's ongoing. It's

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01:23:28,120 --> 01:23:33,760
Speaker 9: a need to know, basis. You are now, Wait a minute,

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01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:36,600
Speaker 9: The only reason why I know this is because I know.

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01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:39,160
Speaker 5: That the only reason why you know it is because

1439
01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:40,599
Speaker 5: of Deuteronomy twenty eight.

1440
01:23:40,840 --> 01:23:41,680
Speaker 8: And we know this.

1441
01:23:41,800 --> 01:23:44,679
Speaker 9: Exactly, exactly exactly.

1442
01:23:44,720 --> 01:23:45,439
Speaker 4: I was joking.

1443
01:23:47,200 --> 01:23:50,360
Speaker 9: No, you can't joke. You can't joke about you can't

1444
01:23:50,439 --> 01:23:54,320
Speaker 9: joke about prophecy. Prophecy is what prophecy is, and you

1445
01:23:54,439 --> 01:23:56,880
Speaker 9: can't do anything about it. I can't do anything about it.

1446
01:23:57,160 --> 01:23:57,639
Speaker 9: It's gone.

1447
01:23:57,720 --> 01:23:59,360
Speaker 4: Oh boy, I believe it.

1448
01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:02,880
Speaker 9: It's like trying to hold in a number two, you

1449
01:24:02,960 --> 01:24:05,880
Speaker 9: know what I mean, Or when a baby is when

1450
01:24:06,080 --> 01:24:09,080
Speaker 9: when when a woman is pregnant, when that baby was

1451
01:24:09,160 --> 01:24:11,080
Speaker 9: ready to come out, it's coming out.

1452
01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:12,479
Speaker 2: It's nothing you can.

1453
01:24:12,439 --> 01:24:12,920
Speaker 9: Do about it.

1454
01:24:14,439 --> 01:24:14,680
Speaker 17: I mean.

1455
01:24:15,360 --> 01:24:17,400
Speaker 9: But but that's what we're dealing with. We're dealing with

1456
01:24:17,560 --> 01:24:21,080
Speaker 9: prophecy here. We're dealing with prophecy. Now, if you have

1457
01:24:21,320 --> 01:24:24,360
Speaker 9: lawyers that was taken that was supposed to be representing

1458
01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:28,639
Speaker 9: ed Wood, Yeah, and you asked the question and he said,

1459
01:24:28,880 --> 01:24:30,400
Speaker 9: I don't know if they can say it, but I'm

1460
01:24:30,439 --> 01:24:32,920
Speaker 9: gonna say it, you know what I mean. They plan

1461
01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:36,519
Speaker 9: at the evidence. Yeah, and then they didn't you know,

1462
01:24:37,560 --> 01:24:40,559
Speaker 9: disgard what he said, but they didn't follow suits. Yep,

1463
01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:44,160
Speaker 9: they playing at the evidence. He said.

1464
01:24:44,240 --> 01:24:47,360
Speaker 4: Three or four cops looked through the trunk before and

1465
01:24:47,439 --> 01:24:49,880
Speaker 4: they didn't find it, and then all of a sudden

1466
01:24:49,880 --> 01:24:52,920
Speaker 4: they come back and it's sitting right there. So that's

1467
01:24:53,000 --> 01:24:53,400
Speaker 4: saying it.

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01:24:54,760 --> 01:24:57,400
Speaker 9: Yeah, okay, that's saying it without saying it. Remember you

1469
01:24:57,560 --> 01:25:01,120
Speaker 9: talked about those three black people who got shot, the

1470
01:25:01,200 --> 01:25:06,920
Speaker 9: three two sisters and the one gentleman they got shot

1471
01:25:07,080 --> 01:25:07,519
Speaker 9: last week.

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01:25:07,800 --> 01:25:08,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, trouble.

1473
01:25:09,880 --> 01:25:12,360
Speaker 9: And then the guy who did the shooting was a

1474
01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:12,880
Speaker 9: white guy.

1475
01:25:13,080 --> 01:25:16,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, and he finally did die, but he didn't die

1476
01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:17,000
Speaker 5: right away.

1477
01:25:17,120 --> 01:25:21,559
Speaker 9: But yeah, okay, Now, before before he the white guy

1478
01:25:21,640 --> 01:25:26,400
Speaker 9: went and killed the three people, he talked to a neighbor.

1479
01:25:26,680 --> 01:25:29,200
Speaker 9: He talked to the people who got killed. You see

1480
01:25:29,240 --> 01:25:32,040
Speaker 9: that on the night I saw that, Yes, And did

1481
01:25:32,120 --> 01:25:34,880
Speaker 9: you hear what the white man said? The white young

1482
01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:37,320
Speaker 9: man said to the older white man.

1483
01:25:38,840 --> 01:25:40,679
Speaker 5: Let's see, I can't.

1484
01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:43,880
Speaker 9: He basically told him to go ahead and get out

1485
01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:46,160
Speaker 9: of here. I got some business to take care of.

1486
01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:49,120
Speaker 9: He's trying to scope me out, but you just go

1487
01:25:49,160 --> 01:25:51,280
Speaker 9: ahead and get out of here. And then the older

1488
01:25:51,360 --> 01:25:55,120
Speaker 9: white man followed suit, even though he knew that something

1489
01:25:55,280 --> 01:25:58,639
Speaker 9: was up. That's how they take care of their own.

1490
01:26:00,400 --> 01:26:02,160
Speaker 4: Okay, you say, and.

1491
01:26:02,439 --> 01:26:06,040
Speaker 9: If you don't know, then you just don't know, you know,

1492
01:26:06,080 --> 01:26:08,599
Speaker 9: what I'm saying. But if you know and you still

1493
01:26:08,760 --> 01:26:11,080
Speaker 9: do it, then you know we get what we get,

1494
01:26:12,240 --> 01:26:20,320
Speaker 9: all right. Douteronomy twenty eight. Yeah, there's a verse at

1495
01:26:20,400 --> 01:26:24,479
Speaker 9: the end that states that we will be brought back

1496
01:26:24,520 --> 01:26:27,519
Speaker 9: to eg Up and brought back into bondage and there

1497
01:26:27,560 --> 01:26:30,040
Speaker 9: will be no man that can save us.

1498
01:26:30,360 --> 01:26:32,840
Speaker 4: Now, that's why this is in the Old test Deuteronomy

1499
01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:34,240
Speaker 4: twenty eight is the Old Testament?

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01:26:34,360 --> 01:26:34,479
Speaker 14: Right?

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01:26:35,720 --> 01:26:38,360
Speaker 9: I don't know where this is where people get mixed up.

1502
01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:42,920
Speaker 4: Well, I just I just asked a simple questions. Where

1503
01:26:43,120 --> 01:26:47,000
Speaker 4: is it? Where can Okay that's what I asked, Whether

1504
01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:49,880
Speaker 4: it in the Old Testament. That's only question I asked.

1505
01:26:50,520 --> 01:26:55,559
Speaker 4: That's to say yes, yes, okay, Hey, I gotta go, man,

1506
01:26:55,560 --> 01:26:56,160
Speaker 4: amount of time.

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01:26:56,200 --> 01:26:58,479
Speaker 5: Thanks for your call. News coming up on twelve thirty

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Speaker 5: The Buzz