1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: So you've got the redistricting drama, you've got the DC 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:08,799 Speaker 1: crime drama, you've got this breaking news regarding Letitia James. 3 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: And then of course Gavin Newsom is out of his mind. 4 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 1: Tony Katz, Tony Kats say, good to be with you. 5 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 1: Let me bring in Ed Marssey of hotair dot com. 6 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: You know him, you love him. You have his pinup calendar. 7 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 1: There's a there's a you don't have a pinup calendar? 8 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: I for want am shocked. Everybody's got a pinup calendar. 9 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: I mean who who doesn't? Oh I might have one. 10 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:33,559 Speaker 1: I might have one, but it ate of me. I mean, 11 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:37,599 Speaker 1: come on, by the way, Harry Sisson of The Leftist 12 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 1: has a pinup calendar. It's just not strong enough to 13 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 1: put in the pin That's a true story. That's science. 14 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 1: I said the joke. I meant the joke. 15 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 2: I apologize for nothing. 16 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: Let's start with what's going on with Letitia James, because 17 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 1: I do want to there's a bunch I want to 18 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: get into with you at marscyof hootair dot com. The 19 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: lawsuit between Trump and Letitia James. How Leatisia James, the 20 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: Attorney General of New York has gone after there, when 21 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: he was citizen Trump, when he was former President Trump. 22 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 2: You've got this. 23 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: Now, this decision today is based on what and where 24 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: does this leave Trump in his response to what Latitia 25 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: James has done to him. 26 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 3: Well, what this has done is it's thrown out the judgment, 27 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 3: not the case itself. But there's room to throw out 28 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 3: the case later, and there's room to file further appeals 29 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 3: on the case. So just to bring remind everybody of 30 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 3: what was going on is that Letitia James had sue 31 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 3: Donald Trump over his business practices, claiming that he had 32 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 3: defrauded lenders by overvaluing his properties, even though the lenders 33 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 3: did their own valuations, did their own thing, and the 34 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 3: lenders still wanted to work with them and never lost 35 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 3: a dime in any of their transactions with Donald Trump. 36 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 3: This was part of a I would call it a 37 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 3: kangaroo court basically, where the fraud was assumed to be 38 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 3: true from the very start, and all they were doing 39 00:01:58,120 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 3: was arguing over the judgment. I think there's a lot 40 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 3: some thing's wrong with this case, but the judgment itself 41 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 3: was ridiculous. It's now half a billion dollars for a 42 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:12,119 Speaker 3: fraud that didn't cost anybody any money whatsoever, and there's 43 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 3: other conditions that are attached to this. So the appellate 44 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 3: court has been mulling over this thing for more than 45 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:22,399 Speaker 3: a year now, and they finally issued apparently in order 46 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 3: that has lots of different concurrences and the cents in 47 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 3: part and that sort of thing. But the upshot is 48 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 3: that the judgment of this case has been entirely tossed. 49 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 3: All of it has been thrown out, and apparently there's 50 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 3: room left to appeal the actual case itself to the 51 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 3: spring where both parties, of course can appeal this. So 52 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,239 Speaker 3: it's going to go to the State Supreme Court and 53 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 3: they're going to take a look at this thing. But 54 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 3: the appellate court ruled that the fines were so excessive 55 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 3: as to violate the Eighth Amendment, and that, I mean, 56 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 3: the scale of this thing is just absurd. 57 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 2: You know. 58 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 4: The part of the judgment. 59 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: Four million was considered to be a little bit extreme. 60 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 3: Just a bit just for a fraud that costs nobody anything. 61 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 3: I mean, this is a civil lawsuit. It's not even 62 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 3: a criminal case. It was a civil lawsuit. Part of 63 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 3: that judgment was that Trump couldn't conduct business in the 64 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 3: state of New York. You know, his sons were restricted 65 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 3: from doing business in the state of New York. So 66 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 3: all of this apparently has been thrown out. The judgment 67 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 3: not the case, but it is a massive win because 68 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 3: it does mean that Tump doesn't have is a good 69 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 3: part of his fortune tied up in the appeal, because 70 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 3: don't forget he had to put down one hundred and 71 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 3: seventy five million dollars bond just to appeal this case, 72 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 3: which is also ridiculous. It's entirely absurd. And this was 73 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 3: just part of the law fair that was being conducted 74 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 3: to try to forrest Donald Trump out of politics. 75 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 2: I want to see if we can work. 76 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: I want to say, if we get into a level 77 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: of misconduct claim against Letitia James. 78 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 2: So Latitia James is one part of the story. Ed Morrissey. 79 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: Now let's get into other parts of the story here, 80 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: and redistricting is the story. Texas the Democrat. You live 81 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: in Texas, You're there, you are the thing, you are 82 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: the heartbeat of Texas. They tell me this all the 83 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: time when I'm in Texas. I haven't been in a while. 84 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: I got to get there. The Democrats come back after 85 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 1: running away to Illinois and the vote takes place because 86 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: there's a quorum and redistricting is now officially happening. 87 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 3: It passed the House, this version has to pass the Senate, 88 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 3: which is pretty much a formality. The Senate had their 89 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 3: own version, the House redid it, it went back. It's 90 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 3: going to go back to the Senate. That will probably 91 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 3: pass tonight, I believe, is so what the Dallas Morning 92 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 3: News was reporting. It'll be on Abbot's desk by tomorrow probably, 93 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 3: and it will be then, you know, challenged in court obviously, 94 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 3: because that's what Democrats are going to do. And that's fine, 95 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 3: that's part that's actually a legitimate part of the process. 96 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 3: Absconding from the legislature is not a legitimate part of 97 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 3: the process. And I'm glad that they forced them to 98 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 3: come back. You know, they actually had to hold. 99 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 5: Them in the capitol because I think it was half 100 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 5: a dozen of them refused to sign slips allowing law 101 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 5: enforcement to follow him in case they tried to flee 102 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 5: the jurisdiction again, so they actually just detained them at 103 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 5: the capitol until the session is over. 104 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 1: These are very unserious people, and I do think this 105 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 1: is going to play badly for them in certain areas 106 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 1: with the midterms. But now we see how the response 107 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: is going. California is going to do this. Democrats are 108 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: absolutely convinced that they have to redistrict everywhere. I favor 109 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:45,359 Speaker 1: the special session in my Indiana about redistricting, and I 110 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: think Republicans have to fight fire with fire. But let's 111 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: start with my general thesis. When we first talked about this, 112 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: my response was, if Texas wants to do this, you 113 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: argued on this show, it's a political process. 114 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 2: Let that take place and let the voter decide if 115 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 2: they like it or they don't like it. 116 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 1: When Gavin Newsom got involved, it became a retribution process, 117 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 1: and so I changed my view. If that they're going 118 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 1: to engage in retribution for something Texas does and not 119 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: allow Texans to decide whether or not they approve of it, 120 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 1: well then every Republican state needs to go about making 121 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: these changes, because if you let Democrats just do this, 122 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: they'll jerry mander to their arts content take the House, 123 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: and you're going to have serious problems. This has certainly 124 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: been Trump's take, This is absolutely my take. Now seeing 125 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: California in response to Texas, is this where Republicans are 126 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: or is there still this idea of oh, just leave 127 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 1: it be. This doesn't concern us, This isn't right. We're 128 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 1: too good for this, We're above this kind of talk. 129 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 3: No, No, if Florida's going to do it now, I 130 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 3: think Missouri just decided to go through that process. Donald 131 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 3: Trump said that he's got the process under way in Missouri. 132 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,799 Speaker 3: So no, I think that Indiana, I think, is another 133 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 3: one that's going to be on board. The problem that 134 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 3: Democrats have is one Democrat states are already gerrymandered. 135 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 4: They did this years ago and. 136 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 3: Then slept independent commissions to try to keep those try 137 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 3: to keep legislatures in the future from readjusting them back. 138 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 4: I mean the fact that Texas. 139 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 3: Legislatures legislators fled to Illinois, which is one of the 140 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 3: most ridiculously gerrymandered states in the country, speaks volumes about 141 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 3: fighting fire with fire. Your point exactly. And again, if 142 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 3: California voters want to amend the constitution so that they 143 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 3: can jerymander the state even more than it already is, 144 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 3: that's up to the voters of California. I mean, I 145 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 3: don't even begrudging that. I do think, however, it's hugely 146 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 3: hypocritical to have locked that process away with an independent 147 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 3: commission that has been staffed entirely by Democrats for I 148 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 3: think the last twenty years, I believe it is, And 149 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 3: now all of a sudden, they want to go they 150 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 3: want to make it a political process again, because you know, 151 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 3: they're sore over the fact that Republicans are starting to 152 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 3: play this game, and the same game that they played 153 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 3: over the last two or three decades. I mean, and 154 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 3: again that's up to the voters in each state as 155 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 3: to whether they want to support that. I'm actually, I 156 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 3: actually am happy that California is talking about eliminating this 157 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 3: independent commission thing. 158 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 4: Because I don't think it belongs there. 159 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 3: I think redistricting is a political process that belongs with 160 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 3: elected officials who can be then held accountable for drawing 161 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 3: these ridiculous, absurd district lines. I mean, you're seeing the 162 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 3: one in Illinois. You're right next door to them, right 163 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 3: where that one snakes one hundred miles or so across 164 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:39,319 Speaker 3: the state. 165 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 1: I made the argument that the Illinois map looks like 166 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: two OCTOPI humping. 167 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 3: Talking to Ed Marssey, I don't know how you got 168 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 3: how did you get the experience for that frame of reference. 169 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 4: That's what I want to know, Tony Katz. 170 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 2: There are websites out there. 171 00:08:55,800 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: Ed Marscy joins us from hot air dot com. But 172 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: now California is going to do this, and Claire mccaskell, 173 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: the former senator from Missouri, saying everybody should be doing this, 174 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: So it's game on. 175 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 2: You talk about Indiana. 176 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: I'm here to tell you there is no special session 177 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: called yet. I am putting the pressure on the Governor 178 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: Mike Brawn to get this happen. A bunch of Republicans 179 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 1: have come out to say we're not interested in this. 180 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: The former governor Mitch Daniels came out to say we're 181 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: not interested in this. I'm a fellow of the Mitch 182 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:28,439 Speaker 1: Daniels Leadership Foundation, and I'm saying that Mitch Daniels is 183 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: wrong and these Republicans are wrong. That was an argument 184 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: before this is now look at what's happening now. Are 185 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: Republicans in your view going to come to the recognition 186 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 1: that the retribution fight is now on and if you 187 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: don't make this move, then you're going to lose the 188 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 1: House forever. 189 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 3: First off, they're not going to lose the House forever. 190 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 3: This is the other This is the other part of this. 191 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 3: When you get to the next census, and it's not 192 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 3: going to happen until twenty thirty, but when you get 193 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 3: to the twenty three two elections, red states are going 194 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 3: to pick up about a dozen House seats, maybe even 195 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 3: more than that, just from the shift in population, not 196 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 3: to mention the fact that the next census is likely 197 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 3: to be a lot cleaner because we will have had 198 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 3: a lot of people leave the country who didn't belong 199 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 3: here in the first place. But California is going to 200 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 3: lose probably four House seats. New York's probably going to 201 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 3: lose four House seats. So what Democrats are doing is 202 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 3: sort of whistling in the wind a bit anyway. But 203 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 3: I would I would say this, it's all when it 204 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 3: comes to the House. When it comes to this type 205 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 3: of thing, politics are local. The Republican voters in Indiana 206 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 3: might not like this idea, in which case Republicans in 207 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 3: Indiana have to listen. 208 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 4: To what the voters want to do. 209 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 3: If voters in Texas were enthusiastic about this, that's the 210 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 3: reason why the Texas legislature is doing this Florida the 211 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 3: same way now leadership had something to do with that, 212 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 3: Greg Abbott, Ronda Santis had something to do with that. 213 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 3: Right they were out there. They're beating the bushes. But 214 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:59,319 Speaker 3: I don't know if that's true in Indiana. I think 215 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 3: it's also true in Mossuri, by the way, which is 216 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 3: the reason why it's the idea is picking up steam there. 217 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 3: But I'm okay with them being held accountable. If they 218 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 3: don't do it and voters are angry with them, they'll 219 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 3: find other Republicans to replace the people who made those decisions. 220 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 3: And again, this gets back to what this should be. 221 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 3: This should be driven by the electorate, what the electorate 222 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 3: wants to have. 223 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 1: Happened A thousand wait in many ways one thousand percent. 224 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,439 Speaker 1: And I will tell you that when this conversation first 225 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: came up, who's rs The people from Indiana were not 226 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 1: interested in this. Charlie Kirk made an error in putting 227 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:39,679 Speaker 1: out posts on social media going after Indiana. 228 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 2: That doesn't work here. 229 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: Charlie has a lot of pull, a lot of drive, 230 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: a lot of audience. 231 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 2: He is not moving the needle in the state of Indiana. 232 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 1: And he needs to know that because that isn't how 233 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: you actually move the needle here, different states, different purposes, 234 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:56,439 Speaker 1: different subjects, et cetera. 235 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 2: This is up to the people here. 236 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 1: The conversation has to become the one of you need 237 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: to make this move, because they're already saying it. 238 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 2: So go back to your point ed. 239 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: About how the map will shift in twenty thirty because 240 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: of demographics, because of we're seeing huge registration swings in 241 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: favor of the Republicans. The Democrats are hemorrhaging registrations. The 242 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: New York Times wrote this story to the extent we 243 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: I ever believe in the New York Times, but on 244 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: this one I happen to know from other sources that 245 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: it's accurate. 246 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 2: That is true. 247 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:33,959 Speaker 1: But you, I think in your analysis, I think you're 248 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: kind of limiting the recognition of the levels to which 249 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 1: the political left will go. I'm going to stick to 250 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: what I said. If you aren't willing to fight the 251 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 1: fire with the fire, you will lose the house. That's 252 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: going to happen, and you will lose it for a while. 253 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 1: Tell me I'm wrong, You're wrong. 254 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 2: Ah, ed everybody. 255 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 4: Because that's that's great. I don't have to support that 256 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 4: argument at all. Great, you're wrong. Next subject. No, I'm 257 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 4: just kidding. 258 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:05,559 Speaker 3: Look, I mean I think when you're talking about a 259 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 3: midterm election, they usually cut against presidents anyway. So yes, 260 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 3: and there's only like a five seat margin here, it's 261 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:12,839 Speaker 3: kind of likely. 262 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 4: That Republicans are going to lose the House. 263 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 2: Even if they do this. 264 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 4: It might be uh, they might lose that. 265 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh we should just that's just normal politics. 266 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:24,079 Speaker 1: We shouldn't even get like lose sight of the concept 267 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: that this is really high risk, high level political stuff here. 268 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: Once you starts doing this, you don't know how this 269 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: is going to cut. You redistrict and claim you're going 270 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: to pick up five seats in Texas, you only pick 271 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: up three. That's disaster. And there's real concern that if 272 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: you redraw some of these maps in states, you will 273 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 1: actually limit in areas Republicans' border or political rights support. 274 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's true in what they're seeing 275 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 1: in California and other states. But we've also seen that 276 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: if you redistrict and pick the number of states, Republicans 277 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: can pick up like thirty eight seats. 278 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 2: So why shouldn't they right. 279 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 3: Hey, and again, because this is a political process, I 280 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 3: think they should. I think they should, but they should 281 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 3: be responsive to the voters in their states. Now again, 282 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 3: let's get back to the leadership idea here, because I 283 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 3: think this is you mentioned this that you know, Mitch 284 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 3: Daniels as opposed to it. Mike Braun doesn't appear to 285 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:18,079 Speaker 3: be enthusiastic about this. Greg Abbott was enthusiastic. Rond De 286 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 3: Santus was enthusiastic. I forget the name of the governor 287 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 3: in Missouri at the moment, but he seems to be 288 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 3: enthusiastic about it. There is a role for leadership here 289 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 3: to rally people to this idea, or at least to 290 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 3: put the argument out there and to try to get 291 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 3: people interested in this. Now to the extent that maybe 292 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 3: Republican leadership in Indiana isn't doing that. I think that 293 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 3: there's room for certainly room for criticism of this. I 294 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 3: think it's something that should be out there and being discussed. 295 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 3: But maybe they're responding to what they see as a 296 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 3: reluctance in the electorate in Indiana to do that. You know, 297 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 3: Utah might have the same issue for us, although I 298 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 3: don't know how many seats you get out of Utah. Anyway, 299 00:14:55,720 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 3: it's pretty Republican as it is, the problem for Democrats 300 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 3: here is that they really don't have much room Jerry Mander. 301 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 4: This is sort of a bluff. 302 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 3: I mean, you might be able to squeeze two or 303 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 3: three seats in California, but I'm not even sure to 304 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 3: your point that they're going to be able to succeed 305 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 3: at that, because that state's already pretty tweaked out for Democrats. 306 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 3: I mean, there's Republicans are like forty three percent of 307 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 3: the electorate and they have seventeen percent of the seats 308 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 3: in California, and I mean, that's that's pretty that's pretty 309 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 3: good already. That's a pretty good you know, Jerry Mander 310 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 3: for California Democrats. Maryland doesn't have any Republican seats because 311 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 3: it's jerrymandered so badly. Massachusetts doesn't have any other and 312 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 3: Governor Mara Heally was out there saying, oh, well, we're 313 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 3: gonna we're gonna fight fire with fire. 314 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 4: We're gonna do it here too. There are no Republican 315 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 4: seats in Massachusetts. 316 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 3: You can't possibly jerry mander better than it already is. 317 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 3: And so if they do start tweaking with these maps 318 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 3: they're likely to do, they're likely to have these sort 319 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 3: of unintended consequence, potentially making one or two seats more 320 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 3: competitive for Republicans. Same thing's true in New York. By 321 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 3: the way, both New York and California, and I think Massachusetts, Maryland, 322 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 3: I think Illinois as well. They have constitutional blocks on 323 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 3: this because again they laid in all these ideas that 324 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 3: this should be done by independent commission so it could 325 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 3: protect the jerrymanders that were done twenty thirty years ago. 326 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 3: And so yeah, I don't think I don't think it's 327 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 3: much of a threat. 328 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 4: I don't think it's much of a threat. 329 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 3: When you combine that with the stuff that New York 330 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 3: Times you just mentioned this New York Times talking about 331 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 3: how Democrats now are losing partisan identification battle. They have 332 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 3: traditionally led that, especially in swing states, and that advantage 333 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 3: is gone. I don't know that they're going to get 334 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 3: anything out of this, and they might make things, you know, 335 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 3: significantly worse for them and trying to redo this. 336 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: And they might. It is all very very high stakes. 337 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: More to get to with Edmarrissey at hotair dot com. 338 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 2: Keep it here. I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Kats today. 339 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 2: So if you're going to talk about redistricting in California. 340 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: You got to talk about the fact that Gavin Newsom 341 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: seems to have lost his mind, incapable of actually connecting 342 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: on a subject that matters. He would rather troll than 343 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:20,880 Speaker 1: be victorious, than build his state, then help the citizens. 344 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 1: This progressivism destroys the mind. Hate rocks the mind. I 345 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: mean it's it's never been more apparent. Tony Katz. Tony 346 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: Katz today, good to be with you talking to Ed 347 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 1: Marssey of hotair dot com. Let me move the subject 348 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,479 Speaker 1: a little bit on you and stick with California and 349 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 1: Gavin Newsom. Edmarssey, hotair dot Com. Ed Marssey on Twitter 350 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 1: x with two rs and two s's. You've got the 351 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: owner of bed Bathroom Beyond Lamonas Marcus Lamonas all the 352 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 1: money in the world saying we're not going to open 353 00:17:56,480 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: any new bed Bathroom Beyond in California. The the regulations, 354 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 1: it's all too restrictive. 355 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 2: There's no way to make money. It's ridiculous. 356 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 1: Newsome responds by saying, you mean the bed bath and 357 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:10,640 Speaker 1: Beyond the closed and solid stores two years ago. Okay, 358 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:15,719 Speaker 1: this is a billion dollar brand still to this moment. 359 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 1: They're now talking about opening two hundred to three hundred 360 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:22,199 Speaker 1: smaller stores, and Gavin Newsom, instead of saying how do 361 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:25,400 Speaker 1: I bring business to the state of California, says, hey, 362 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 1: how do I get a good singer on social media? 363 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 1: Because that matters more. You can't rebuild after the fires. 364 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 1: Do you allowed the fires to take place? Never mind 365 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 1: the entire disaster that is the criminal element in Los 366 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:41,640 Speaker 1: Angeles and San Francisco And now this, how much more 367 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 1: can Californians take. 368 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 3: That's the reason why they're going to lose four house 369 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 3: seats and maybe more actually, because after this it might 370 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 3: even start accelerating the outflow even further. This is a 371 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 3: reason people are voting with their feet from California. It's 372 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 3: because of stuff like this in and out Burger, which 373 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:02,360 Speaker 3: has been It's a California I con institution. 374 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 4: It's nineteen forty eight. 375 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 3: It's an institution moved their headquarters to Tennessee for the 376 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 3: same reason. People are leaving it because the business climate 377 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 3: there is so bad. And Gavin Newsom can play internet 378 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 3: troll all he likes. He's the governor of that state. 379 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 3: He has the ability to do something about this, and 380 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 3: instead he's doing the He's doing it for the laws. Right, 381 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 3: bed Bath and Beyond went bankrupt for other reasons. Right, 382 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:33,919 Speaker 3: they did close all their stores. I don't think it 383 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:35,679 Speaker 3: was two years ago. I think it was much sooner 384 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 3: than that. I thought overstock dot bond. Overstock bought them 385 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 3: and it's been and they've been working on reopening stores 386 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 3: under the bed Bath and Beyond brand ever since. I'm 387 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 3: glad to see that they're coming back. I actually like 388 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:51,679 Speaker 3: shopping at bed Bath and Beyond. They had some great deals, 389 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 3: interesting selections. 390 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 4: Right. I hope they come back. If they don't, they don't, 391 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 4: and that's just business. 392 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 3: But the idea that you're going to ridicule people for 393 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 3: trying to relaunch a business because they won't do it 394 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 3: in your jurisdiction because your jurisdiction stinks is strange. It's 395 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:17,880 Speaker 3: kind of strange to me that rather than reach out 396 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,640 Speaker 3: and say, look, I think we're on the wrong foot here. 397 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 3: We've got a great business climate. Let me explain to 398 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 3: you all the different ways that we can make this 399 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 3: work for you. He just decided to get into a 400 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,679 Speaker 3: troll war with a business that could open up a 401 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 3: bunch of jobs in this state. 402 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 2: But he's pretty said when he does that. 403 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: When Gavin Newsom does that, he's saying this matters more. 404 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: It mattered more to him to be able to win 405 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 1: the troll war than it does to actually help his state. 406 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 1: Look at the stuff he's doing with the tweets about 407 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: Donald Trump pretending to act like him. 408 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 2: And tweet like he does. 409 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: And then he's got this tweet where he's he's like 410 00:20:56,119 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: dressed like Rambo and he's firing this gun at people, 411 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,679 Speaker 1: and you're like, first of all, it's California, you hate guns, 412 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 1: and secondly the guns firing. You really want to bring 413 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,360 Speaker 1: up fires after what happened in the palis Age, which 414 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:11,400 Speaker 1: still isn't rebuilt. 415 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,439 Speaker 2: It was a great point made by Carl Higbee on Newsmax. 416 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 2: But it is very, very true. 417 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:21,640 Speaker 1: This is what matters more to California Democrats. 418 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 2: I can't imagine why I should take this back. 419 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: Are you telling me that the Democratic Party, and I 420 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 1: think we've seen proof of it, they really can't figure 421 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: out that this is wrong. This doesn't attract voters. I mean, 422 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 1: never mind, their policies don't, but trolling is their is 423 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 1: their future. 424 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 3: This is all they've got. All they have is basically 425 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 3: social media. They don't have core values anymore. Their core 426 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 3: value is Donald Trump. And this is I mean, this 427 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 3: is the New York Times actually started talking about this 428 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:57,919 Speaker 3: a little bit in that piece that you mentioned, is 429 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 3: that their core value is Donald Trump. Nobody that's what 430 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 3: they stand for anymore, except that they don't like Donald Trump, 431 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 3: and so Trump arrangement syndrome is. 432 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 2: All they have. 433 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 3: And you've got Gavin Newsome trying to do a comic interpretation, 434 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 3: I guess of Donald Trump. Here's the thing that I think, 435 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 3: and I've got a piece that's coming up on this. 436 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,360 Speaker 3: I think Kelly and Conway actually put her finger on 437 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 3: this earlier today, and I hadn't really thought of it 438 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 3: in these terms, which is that the twenty twenty four 439 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 3: election was about strength versus weakness. Democrats were offering weakness, 440 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 3: Trump was offering strength. Now, Trump is not a popular figure. 441 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 3: I know, he's got a lot of fans and stuff 442 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 3: like that. He's not a popular figure across a broad 443 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 3: spectrum of people in the United States. And yet he 444 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 3: won not just the electoral college, but he won the 445 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 3: popular vote. Why because people were tired of weakness. It 446 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 3: was sort of in a way like the nineteen eighty 447 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 3: election is that people were looking at Jimmy Carter and 448 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 3: Ronald Reagan and saying, you know, maybe Ronald Reagan is 449 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 3: an actor, and I don't know what, you know, know 450 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 3: what kind of a president he makes, but he's at 451 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 3: least somebody who is who projects strength, where Jimmy Carter 452 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 3: is projecting malaise. Right, And I think it was the 453 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 3: exact same thing. I think Kelly and Conway really put 454 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 3: her finger on it. And this brings us back to 455 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:17,120 Speaker 3: something that you know, our friend and philosopher Andrew Breitbart 456 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 3: always said, always emphasized, politics is downstream of culture. And 457 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 3: the culture got sick and tired of weakness, and it 458 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 3: shifted people to Donald Trump, even though he was terribly 459 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:34,919 Speaker 3: unpopular by normal measures. People were sick and tired of 460 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 3: weakness and they chose strength. And so now you've got 461 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 3: Donald Trump cleaning up Washington, d C. You've got Donald 462 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 3: Trump solving the border crisis literally within weeks of taking 463 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 3: office and is now ejecting people and more importantly, incentivizing 464 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 3: people to leave in record numbers. That strength he's He's 465 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,199 Speaker 3: intervened in six conflicts and managed to bring people to 466 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 3: the table. Let me count that strength. Let me counter 467 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:05,199 Speaker 3: with the insanity. If that is indeed the case that 468 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 3: strength is the thing that is wanted desired gets voters 469 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:14,199 Speaker 3: in Washington, DC. According to CNN, the polling says that 470 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,640 Speaker 3: eighty percent of the people don't like the Trump takeover. 471 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: They don't like the arrest, they don't like the cleaning 472 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: up the streets. Eighty percent, that's what they claim over 473 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 1: at CNN. They don't want this, they don't like this. 474 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: Jdvan's the Vice President, Pete hags at the Defense Secretary 475 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 1: are walking through Union station and they're getting booed and 476 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 1: yelled at. The Democratic Party is now showing themselves to say, 477 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 1: you want to clean up this city, how dare you, 478 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 1: which seems to be their way of saying, let's not 479 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 1: notice that the city is a mess to begin with, 480 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 1: because that's bad for us. They don't know that they're 481 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 1: offering up weakness. They don't know that people are attracted 482 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: to strength. They don't know what it is you're talking about, 483 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 1: and they find themselves on the side of don't clean 484 00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 1: up the mess. 485 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's and this is the reason why they don't 486 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 3: have a core value other than to oppose Donald Trump. 487 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 4: And that's been true. 488 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 2: Proof of it. 489 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 3: That was the Kamala Harris campaign. She didn't even put 490 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 3: out really an agenda or a policy, you know, specific 491 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 3: policy proposals, including how to deal with the border crisis 492 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 3: which they created. 493 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 4: Right. 494 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 3: Her whole thing was that Donald Trump is illegitimate and 495 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 3: should be disqualified from office because he's a threat to democracy. 496 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 3: Your only choice is to vote for us because he's 497 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 3: a poopy head. I mean it really just it came 498 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 3: down to that. That's what their whole campaign was. That 499 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 3: was what the campaign was. 500 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 1: The campaign was, you can't vote for Trump because he's 501 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,479 Speaker 1: bad and you have If you don't vote for us, 502 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 1: you're a sexist and racist. 503 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. And people are sick and tired of that. 504 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 3: They're sick and tired of a lot of things that 505 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 3: project weakness. And I think that this is really a 506 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 3: cultural movement. I think what happened in November was a 507 00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 3: cultural more than political. So certainly there's politics involved in here, 508 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 3: and the politics of landing on the twenty percent of 509 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 3: all these eighty twenty issues is part of that Trump 510 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 3: dearrangement syndrome. Democrats are driving themselves to that point, But 511 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:11,359 Speaker 3: it's cultural. 512 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,360 Speaker 2: Last thing before I let you go, I don't disagree. 513 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: You and I were both around that world. I lived 514 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles at the time of Andrew Breitbart. 515 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 2: I never worked at Breitbart. I did do some writing there. 516 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 2: We were not. 517 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 1: Friends, but we certainly knew each other were and certainly 518 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: talked when we were together at social occasions. Are you 519 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: arguing that Gavin Newsom doesn't know this? Listen, Gavin Newsom 520 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 1: might be terrible, right, we would agree on this, but 521 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,719 Speaker 1: I don't think he's dumb, and I don't think you 522 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 1: think he's dumb either. 523 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 2: He doesn't know this. 524 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 1: To show some strength, to show some resolve, to show 525 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 1: that that's better. 526 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 4: He knows this, but he doesn't know how to do it. 527 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 3: That's the reason why he's on the internet trolling because 528 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,880 Speaker 3: he thinks that that's what that is. He thinks that 529 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,479 Speaker 3: that strength. He thinks that that's all that Donald Trump is. 530 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,439 Speaker 3: He doesn't get it at all. Does he know that 531 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 3: the problem is weakness? 532 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 4: Yeah? 533 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:08,880 Speaker 3: I think he kind of senses it in a way, 534 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 3: which is the reason why he's trying to do a 535 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,640 Speaker 3: Donald Trump impression on Twitter. 536 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 4: And it's it's not him. It's not authentic. Donald Trump 537 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 4: is authentic. 538 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,679 Speaker 3: Right, It would be like it'd be like if Jimmy 539 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,880 Speaker 3: Carter tried to do a Ronald Reagan impression, which Jimmy Carter, 540 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,159 Speaker 3: by the way, was smart enough not to do. Jimmy 541 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 3: Carter was smart enough to remain authentic. Okay, And we 542 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 3: can have all sorts of complaints about the Carter presidency, 543 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,679 Speaker 3: but Jimmy Carter was a pretty authentic guy. And you know, 544 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 3: I have some sympathy for Jimmy Carter. I just I 545 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:43,159 Speaker 3: will say that he's will leave that to you. But 546 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 3: he was a terrible president. But he wasn't a terrible 547 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 3: president because he was he had malice. 548 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 4: He was a terrible. 549 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 3: President because he didn't understand how to operate from a 550 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 3: position of strength, and Ronald Reagan did. And the same 551 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,160 Speaker 3: thing is true with Democrats right now. But they're malicious 552 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 3: in their ignorance right now. And Gavin Newsom is smart 553 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 3: enough to understand that there is a weakness issue with 554 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 3: the Democrat Party, but he's not, It's not smart enough 555 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 3: to understand what it actually is and how he's contributing 556 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 3: to it. If Gavin Gavin Newson get off the internet, 557 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,120 Speaker 3: if he if he's if he issued an order an 558 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 3: executive order ordering that permits be granted to all of 559 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 3: the homeowners in the Palisades, regardless of what the Coastal 560 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 3: Commission or Karen Bass's administration Los Angeles did. Forcing those 561 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 3: permits to be issued, that would actually be strength and 562 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 3: he would actually probably get a huge boost is popular standing. 563 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 4: He won't act. He just likes to. 564 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 3: Troll, and that's the problem. Donald Trump acts. Gavin Newsom 565 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 3: likes to troll, that's it. 566 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 2: Trump likes the trol too, but he also acts. 567 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: So I think he does part one department at Marscy 568 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: dot com. I appreciate taking the time to be with 569 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 1: us hot air dot com. Follow him on Twitter. X 570 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: ed Marcy two rs, two s's that's that's how you 571 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 1: spell the name. 572 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 2: More to get you. I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony 573 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 2: Katz today.