1 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: Back. 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 2: In twenty twenty three, the Alec Bradley Cigar Group sold 3 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:12,479 Speaker 2: to the Scandinavian Tobacco Group for seventy two point five 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 2: million dollars. 5 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 3: Fingers Moloy, we offered sixty nine point three million. 6 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:21,479 Speaker 2: Just gut beat it out, pity too. It's eat, drink, smoke. 7 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 2: I'm Tony Katzen. That right there is America's favorite amateur drinker, 8 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 2: Fingers Molloy. 9 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: And this from Alec Bradley, going back to. 10 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 2: I think twenty nineteen is when this cigar came out. 11 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 1: This is the gatekeeper. 12 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 2: We're doing the Toro right here, which is a six 13 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 2: x fifty two, which means it's six inches long. 14 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:41,480 Speaker 1: Tea always makes Fingers Moloy laugh. 15 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 2: And the ring gauge is a fifty two the diameter 16 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 2: of the cigar or how thick it is around again 17 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 2: with the laughter, So a sixty four ring gauge would 18 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 2: be a. 19 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: Full one inch around. Toro is where I that's to 20 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: me is the low end of length. That's where I 21 00:00:57,800 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: like to be. I smoke robostos. 22 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,279 Speaker 2: Of course, I'm just not that's not my every day 23 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 2: This into the Churchill is where I like to play. 24 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 1: Hey, I'm not right for you. You do what you 25 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 1: have to do. 26 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 2: First things first, this is an Ecuadorian habano rapper here Nicaragua, 27 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 2: and the binder in the filler there's some Dominican the 28 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 2: filler as well. That wrapper feels so great. It's got oil, 29 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 2: it's got grit. It is brown with that modeled black 30 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 2: almost streaking through the wrapper there and and feels it 31 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 2: there's hefty. Yeah you say it, it's beefy. It does? 32 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 1: You actually do feel the cigar not light in the 33 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 1: hand at all. Is this your first time having the 34 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: gatekeeper fingers? 35 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 3: I believe so it is not for me. 36 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 2: It is not my first time having first time today, 37 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 2: Just not my first time. You always remember your first 38 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 2: That's not true at all. There's so many cigars. I'm like, 39 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 2: I don't remember having this whatsoever. I don't remember if 40 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 2: if it wasn't for the notebooks, and it wasn't for 41 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 2: the show, if it wasn't for the show, that's how 42 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 2: I go back, Like the show is my notebook, Go 43 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 2: back and take a look. 44 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: But it feels great and it looks great. 45 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 2: Uh, you've had Alec Bradley's cigars before, and I think 46 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 2: that as a brand, it's it's always been. They've always 47 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 2: been lovely people, but it's been kind of hit or 48 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 2: miss as as a cigar for me. There's some things 49 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 2: I've enjoyed and some things I haven't. There's some things 50 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 2: I thought were so silly, like the Texas Toast, which 51 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 2: was like an eight by eighty kind of ring gage, 52 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 2: just an absolute mond maybe it was only seventy ring gauge, 53 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:34,679 Speaker 2: but still absolutely huge. 54 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: He too, was a cigar. It's called the Black Magic 55 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: or Magic Toast. Magic Toast. 56 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 2: Magic Toast was the cigar that I thought for Alec 57 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 2: Bradley like kind of reset them, like, oh, okay, we're 58 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 2: back to doing interesting things, right. And then the sons 59 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 2: Alec and Bradley, they started doing some of their their 60 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 2: own work, and I thought they did they did nice 61 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 2: stuff that now that's this. This is an Alec and 62 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 2: Bradley the gatekeeper right here. And I always thought that 63 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:09,239 Speaker 2: this was just a nice, worthwhile basic smoke in the 64 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 2: humid or. And I don't mean basically in a bad way. 65 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 2: I'm just saying, this doesn't break the bank kind of stuff. 66 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 2: This isn't uh, you know, gonna second mortgage time, Just 67 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 2: good quality, easy to do, easy to find, easy to. 68 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 1: Get access to boom. What else could you ask for? 69 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 3: Not much more than that, I can tell you. You know, 70 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 3: we just lit this. We're just in the first third 71 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 3: of the first third of the cigar, and right off 72 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 3: the bat it popped into my head like a toast. 73 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 3: There's like a little bit of a bready sweetness to 74 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 3: it and a nuttiness as well. For me, as I'm 75 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 3: starting to smoke a little bit more, as I'm getting 76 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 3: a little bit more into the first third, I am noticing, Uh, 77 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 3: from the light to to now, there has been a 78 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 3: pepper that has been building. 79 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not I don't think I've just let this up. 80 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 2: So I don't think I am there that yet. I 81 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 2: I this is certainly there's a little bit of wood 82 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 2: that's actually I think it's the wood the cedar that's 83 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 2: we're laying the spice on the tongue. It's playing middle 84 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 2: tongue front to back. I I like where you are 85 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 2: with with with nuttiness. I think so, I think this 86 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 2: is a an interesting presentation of tobacco forward, right. I 87 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 2: think that that's what you're actually getting out out of this, 88 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 2: and so it presents itself with this with this. You're 89 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 2: calling it pepper, and I'm telling you, I think that 90 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 2: spice that you're getting and for me, it's middle of 91 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 2: tongue front to back is actually the cedar and it's 92 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 2: an intensity of wood flavor. Okay, you can make that argument, 93 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:51,919 Speaker 2: and so I did. Who might argue with you? Because 94 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,799 Speaker 2: if that's pepper, that is not black pepper, I would 95 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 2: say that is that is that is a white pepper 96 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 2: concentrain almost into bits of red pepper, Like there's a 97 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 2: little bit of heat that's building from it. And that's 98 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 2: why I think it's actually the cedar playing a trick 99 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 2: on you. 100 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 3: It's not the first time cedar has played a trick 101 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 3: on me. We know you have fallen for wood in 102 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 3: all sorts of ways. 103 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: That is so true. 104 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 3: Having said that, moving back to the cigar, the draw, 105 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 3: the draw is very pleasant, very easy, the hand feel 106 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 3: you mentioned it earlier. It's got a nice bit of 107 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 3: half to it. 108 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: So far, so good. 109 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's a lot to like here. I 110 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:36,559 Speaker 2: think there's a lot to really work with in this cigar. 111 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 2: You want to get your notebooks right. What'd you eat today? 112 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 2: What did you drink today? 113 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: The weather we have had beautiful weather. 114 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,359 Speaker 2: In Indianapolis still warmer than I think people want it 115 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 2: to be for October. 116 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 1: I'm not complaining. 117 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 3: I met up with a group of friends and they 118 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 3: made an observation that I really hadn't noticed, is that 119 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 3: because it's been so warm, leaves really haven't changed as 120 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 3: much as they should have or how much you we 121 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 3: do expect them to at this time of year. 122 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 2: Now there's there's no reds and there's no yellows, so 123 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 2: everything is still really really green. 124 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 1: Going on. 125 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 2: You want to get your notebooks out, guys, what did 126 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 2: you eat today? What'd you drink today, whether we're talking 127 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 2: about and then take the cigar, break it up into thirds, 128 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 2: first third, second third, final third. First third where you 129 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 2: light it from. That is the foot, uh. The final 130 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 2: third is where you're smoking from. That is the cap 131 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 2: where you cut. Did a shallow cut on this fingers 132 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 2: did a very shallow cut on it, Very very impressive, sir. 133 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 2: Then what are the flavors you're getting? Write them down, 134 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 2: doesn't matter how weird it is, how what kind of 135 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 2: flavors you think you're you're you're you're you're you're getting 136 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 2: as esoteric or as space, and then write it down 137 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 2: for each third. Then when you smoke the cigar a month, now, 138 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 2: six months now, whatever it is, you do it again. 139 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 2: And that's where you get your through line. You make 140 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 2: your comparisons. What you know, what are the flavors really 141 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 2: getting out of this smouth? 142 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 3: Any flavor, no matter how crazy at me look in print? 143 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 3: I just wrote down my little notebook here areo mcflurry? 144 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: Is that what you wrote down? I don't think you did. 145 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 2: I just want to say, I think the people are 146 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 2: tired of your embellishments. Dare they think that you are 147 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 2: making a mockery of the cigar game? 148 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 3: Are you saying that there are people an eat, drink, 149 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 3: smoke nation that think I'm turning the show into my 150 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 3: own dent of lies? Is that what you're saying? Is 151 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 3: that what you're saying to me? How dare you, sir? 152 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 2: I do think, because we do get asked this question 153 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 2: a lot, we agree with you. 154 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: We no, not the dentalized part. 155 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 2: There are a lot of sites out there doing a 156 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 2: lot of cigar reviews, and people are going to do 157 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 2: what they do and we let them, and some of them. 158 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: We think are are really really excellent. 159 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 2: There are people doing some really cool stuff and there 160 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 2: are some people come up with some descriptions where we 161 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 2: want you to know that we know that, you know 162 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 2: that they're full of crap. 163 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: We all know it. We're all fully aware of it. 164 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 2: We've kind of mocked it in our own unique way, 165 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 2: like when people say I taste marzipan, god bless you. 166 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 2: Who am I to say? I don't think I've ever 167 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 2: tasted that in a cigar. Actually, we've joked about it before. 168 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 2: We try and just bring it to you as we 169 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 2: see it as directly as we. 170 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 3: Can, like saying something like a hit to apricot, but 171 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 3: organic apricot. 172 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, no, you didn't, No, you Some people really 173 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 2: have palettes. 174 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: But I think sometimes people are trying really hard. Is 175 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:41,839 Speaker 1: a cigar worth it? We'll tell you in a moment. 176 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 2: Not everybody deserves a tip, and not everything deserves a tip. 177 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,559 Speaker 2: If you want to tip, though, send those to eat 178 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 2: drink smokeshow dot com. 179 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 1: We'd sure appreciate it, would we. 180 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess it depends on what the tip is, right, Like, 181 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 3: if it's monetary, that kind of tip, that would be great. 182 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,439 Speaker 3: If it's fingers, you should do a sit up. I 183 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 3: don't want that kind of tip. 184 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 2: D Drink smoke Common, Tony Kunts and that right there 185 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 2: is fitness influencer Fingers Moloy find everything at Eat, drinksmokeshow 186 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 2: dot com. 187 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: We have all felt it, the tip fatigue. 188 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 2: The idea of every place now sets up to, hey, 189 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 2: do you want to leave a tip? The story from 190 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 2: the New York Post Now it gets a little confusing. 191 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 2: They say the average consumer spends one hundred and fifty 192 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 2: dollars per week on unnecessary tips, according to a survey UH. 193 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 2: It was done by a group called pop Menu, which 194 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 2: is where I believe you go Fingers for all your 195 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 2: POPMNU advice. 196 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: That is so true. 197 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,959 Speaker 3: They are great over there all their their pop Menu. 198 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 2: But they in the article it reads it over the 199 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 2: last year, people had paid around one hundred and fifty 200 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:00,839 Speaker 2: dollars and tips on average, but they didn't feel we're 201 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 2: necessary forty four percent tipping in places they don't think 202 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,319 Speaker 2: it's customary. Now, I would argue that one hundred and 203 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 2: fifty dollars a week is probably too much, and one 204 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty dollars a year is probably too little. 205 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 1: So I think I don't even know where that number is. 206 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 2: I think the story is I don't want to tip 207 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 2: my beist to just make my coffee, fix my latte. 208 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: Fix my latte. 209 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 3: By the way, that'll be the name of this episode 210 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 3: when it's in podcast form. Having said that, I'll give 211 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 3: you an example. So the other day, i'm you know, 212 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 3: I have seventy two gigs. I work one hundred and 213 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 3: twelve hours a week. I stopped for lunch. Oh did 214 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 3: you yes, at a pizza joint. 215 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: Oh, you got out of the car. 216 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 3: Yes, I got out of the car. But this pizza 217 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,319 Speaker 3: joint really should have a drive through. It's one of 218 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 3: those pizza joints. All I wanted was their loaf of bread. 219 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 3: And let's just say their deal on that loaf of 220 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 3: bread was crazy. I got the loaf of bread. 221 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 1: Okay, I know, I don't know what that means. I 222 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:02,959 Speaker 1: can't figure out where you are based. 223 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 3: On that crazy bread. Little Caesar's Pizza. Oh I didn't 224 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 3: know that, My god, man, was that Little Caesars crazy bread? 225 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,319 Speaker 3: You've never had crazy bread before? Oh, we need to 226 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 3: make that happen. No, don't tempt me with a good time. 227 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:28,959 Speaker 3: So I went and got the crazy bread. I had 228 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 3: to go in so I burned three calories. So I 229 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 3: was doing my part to work off the crazy bread 230 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 3: before I even consumed the whole loaf by myself. They 231 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 3: give you a loaf above of bread. It's covered in yeah, yes, 232 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 3: it's covered in parmesan and a butter and space age polymers. 233 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 2: This isn't a breadstick, No, it's a loaf. It's actually 234 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:54,079 Speaker 2: like you could slice it make sandwiches. 235 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:58,199 Speaker 3: No, it's spread sticks, okay, And they got parmesan all 236 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 3: over it, and it's a festival of flavor. And they 237 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 3: give you a little thing of marin aero sauce for dippin'. 238 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: Right, So. 239 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 3: Say I'd like that chop keep give me your breast 240 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 3: best best crazy bread. 241 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: And she said, okay, absolutely. 242 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 3: She goes in the back and she said, run your 243 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:19,079 Speaker 3: credit card and then there'll be a question for you 244 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 3: for crazy bread at Little Caesar's. So I went ahead 245 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 3: and tipped because ten percent was seventy one cents. But still, 246 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 3: that's ridiculous. 247 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: Do they get to see whether or not you tipped 248 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: or not? On the other. 249 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 3: Side, what they do is at the door, you know, 250 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 3: right next to the chart that shows how tall you 251 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 3: are as you're walking out the door, in case you 252 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 3: rob the place, there's a little blinking green light showing 253 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 3: if you tipped or not. Okay, that's my guess. I 254 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 3: could be making that. 255 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, you shouldn't have to tip for that, and it's 256 00:12:56,920 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 2: wrong to ask, And I don't do it, don't, I don't, 257 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 2: doesn't matter, of course I don't. 258 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: If I tipped everywhere. 259 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 2: The way the machine tries to order you to do so, 260 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 2: I wouldn't be able to afford my mortgage. It's an 261 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 2: insane proposition. Now, the idea of I don't tip for 262 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:19,439 Speaker 2: crazy bread, but I tipped for coffee is equally insane, 263 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 2: because in both cases, make your own. 264 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 1: What are you going out for crazy bread for? 265 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 3: I was on the road. I had been away from 266 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 3: home for several hours, away from my bread oven. To 267 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 3: be able to make my own bread. I have an 268 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 3: oven specific for bread, right, it's built in himself. It's 269 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 3: an easy bake oven. Having said that, so I wanted 270 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 3: the bread. It sounded good. And if you had ever 271 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 3: had crazy bread, you would understand. 272 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: I don't know how I'm fat. 273 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 2: I don't understand what is happening with my body chemistry. 274 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 3: Having said that, and you're not fat, you are stocky. 275 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: So much better. 276 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 3: Oh, hello, ladies impressed now having said that, when you 277 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 3: get on, I shouldn't be asking you this because you. 278 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 1: Don't eat bread to begin with. But I do love 279 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: it though. 280 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 3: Okay, So if you get a sandwich, you order ahead 281 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 3: of time through an app sandwich shop, you get sandwiches 282 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 3: for the family, do you tip them? 283 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: Never done that a day in my life. I've never 284 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: gotten sandwiches for the family ever. 285 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 2: Maybe we've stopped at a subway before we're traveling, but hey, everybody, 286 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 2: let's go out for lunch and get sandwiches. In my lifetime, 287 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:49,479 Speaker 2: unless we were online at Kats's Deli to have some pastrami, 288 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 2: never once have I done that. 289 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: Never once. Oh, there are so many great sandwiches. No, 290 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: if it's a restaurant, yes, but. 291 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 3: If they make the sandwich, they wrap it up in 292 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 3: the paper, they put it in a bag for you. 293 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 3: Stop it kind enough for each sandwich. They're like, Tony sandwich, 294 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 3: write it on the wrap, fingers sandwich, finger sandwich. Anyway, 295 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 3: you don't You don't think it's necessary to tip those people, 296 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 3: the sandwich artists. 297 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: No, No, I don't think it's necessary to pay you. 298 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 2: It's it's it's wrong. It is absolutely wrong I did. 299 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 2: You didn't do any work. You did the job that 300 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 2: you were paid to do. The whole idea of tipping 301 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 2: in a restaurant is a different scenario, is a different 302 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 2: thought process, because there is a service that's happening. I 303 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 2: we've discussed this before, and I actually had to have words. 304 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: With friends of mine. 305 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 2: I was out with where the server is putting things down, 306 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 2: and they're taking the plate from the server, and I'm 307 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 2: expected to do that. 308 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: No, I I spent two. 309 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 2: Hundred and twenty dollars dinner for five people. Yes, I 310 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 2: am not taking their plate and putting it down. 311 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: Put it in front of me. Do the job. Otherwise 312 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: what am I paying for? 313 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 2: I have to clean up after myself too, and I 314 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,479 Speaker 2: have to tip twenty percent plus, which. 315 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: I go about in certain places. I go about because 316 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: you know, I have a reputation to a vote. 317 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 3: No, you know, No, you know what I do in 318 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 3: those situations. I act like a blackjack dealer, and I 319 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 3: clap my hands and I wave them to my sides, 320 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 3: and then I put my hands down. These plates are 321 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 3: clean now, and then. 322 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: They take them away. 323 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 3: One more thing, though, sure, you know how a couple 324 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 3: of weeks ago, I mentioned that a certain grocery store 325 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 3: has declared war on their customers. 326 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: That's correct. 327 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 3: Yes, I've been in there since on four different occasions. 328 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 3: But five or six days after we went on that 329 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 3: rant about that grocery store, nobody's in there anymore. I'm 330 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 3: taking full credit. So the folks in there that were 331 00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 3: going in there being hassled by solicitors, it's not happening anymore. 332 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 3: You can think you can thank Eat Drink Smoke for that. 333 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 2: Now, if you don't know what Fingers is talking about, 334 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 2: you have to listen to the last month of podcasts 335 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 2: in order to understand, because he wants to make sure 336 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 2: he was vague enough. So you'll go listen and still try. 337 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: Not to get sued exactly, Oh, or getting suit, Eat 338 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: Drink Smoke. It is your cigar Bourbon footy extravaganza. I'm 339 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: Tony Katz. That is Fingers below. 340 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 2: I find everything at Eat drinksmokeshow dot com. And yes, 341 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 2: we'd love to come to your town. You gotta tell 342 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 2: your local radio station that carries Eat Drink Smoke to 343 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 2: bring us out. Let's smoke together, Let's drink together, Let's 344 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 2: fall in love and make a. 345 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 3: Baby, and we'll even write a song together, make a baby, 346 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 3: and the song will be about the baby smoking the 347 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 3: Alec and Bradley Alec Bradley gate Keeper right here six 348 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:04,400 Speaker 3: by fifty two. 349 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 1: It is a spicier stick than I remember. 350 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 2: I mean, and again, if we're gonna talk pepper, I'm 351 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:15,719 Speaker 2: playing into the white peppers. But I really do think 352 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 2: it is the intensity of that would I would like 353 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 2: a little more sweetness, a little more tobacco, a little 354 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 2: to balance this out. It's an enjoyable cigar, but man, 355 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,880 Speaker 2: is it present? Are you fully aware of what's happening? 356 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 1: Yeah? 357 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 3: For me, that sweetness was there at the light, you know, 358 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 3: I mentioned kind of a toasted, like a bready sweetness, 359 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 3: and then that's kind of subsided that that pepper. I 360 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 3: think it's, you know, a pepper which you will call it, 361 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 3: which but maybe it's cedar. H it's overwhelming the palette. 362 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:54,199 Speaker 3: I don't know. All I know is it's there and 363 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 3: it's it's nice. And then also there's a that nuttiness 364 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:01,199 Speaker 3: is kind of subsided as well. That's still there, but 365 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,679 Speaker 3: not like it was when we first lit this and 366 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 3: we were in the first third of the first third 367 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 3: of the cigar, having said all that, I like what 368 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 3: I'm experiencing with this cigar between the flavor profile and 369 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 3: then also you know, it has been pretty low maintenance, nice, 370 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 3: pleasant draw The hand feel, like you mentioned at the 371 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 3: beginning of the show is great. 372 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:28,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good stick. Yeah. 373 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,360 Speaker 2: Now the question of course fingers with LOI is this 374 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:36,639 Speaker 2: in your humidor for thirteen dollars a stick? Yes, I 375 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 2: could see how this works for a lot of people. 376 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 2: I can see how this is something where they like 377 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 2: a bigger like a boulder. 378 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 1: I thought it interesting the guys. 379 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 2: Over there, I said, ladies over there, I should say 380 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 2: the people over there. I shouldn't be sexist at Neptune 381 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 2: Cigar and I happen to like their site. We don't 382 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 2: have a business relationship with Neptune. There are a couple 383 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 2: of people doing some really good work with online cigar sales. 384 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 2: I like the the cleanliness of their their site. I 385 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 2: think it's pretty easy. Descriptions are there, Ratings are there. 386 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 2: They categorize this as a medium. I think you got 387 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:15,679 Speaker 2: to play a little stronger. Yeah, right, your your your 388 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 2: medium plus, but you're not in the middle. 389 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 1: It's just it's a little bit more than that. You're 390 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: not in full, but you're you're you're full curious, you're 391 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 1: full questioning. I think that's the way the cigar goes. 392 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 3: I'd agree with you on that, Yeah, medium, because you 393 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 3: could you hear medium and you think, oh, you know, 394 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 3: it's not going to hit me. And I'm not saying 395 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 3: this is like a full punch in the face, but 396 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 3: it lets you know you're it's there. 397 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 1: So this is not for yardwork. 398 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 2: This is I would also argue, unless you've had the 399 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 2: cigar already, not for a golf course, do not bring 400 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 2: this cigar to your buddies and say, hey, have this. 401 00:20:58,280 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: There's a lot. 402 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 2: There's just a lot to heat spice constantly. That wood 403 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 2: concentration happening here. It's not gonna be for everybody. 404 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 3: And depending on how cigars impact your day, I wouldn't 405 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 3: smoke the sun an empty stomach. 406 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 2: It's actually not a bad idea and it's and it's 407 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 2: not because it's it's overwhelming. I think that spice might 408 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 2: hit people, that that cedar hit people the wrong way. 409 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 2: All that said, for twelve seventy, I think it's a 410 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 2: fine stick. I think it's a fine price, and I 411 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 2: think you probably could find deals on. 412 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,679 Speaker 1: It because the sgar has been around for a while. 413 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 2: It's it's that this is a cigar where you buy 414 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 2: the cigar, buy two. 415 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 1: As we often discuss it, right now, try a month from. 416 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 2: Now, and then after both those times like you know what, 417 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 2: I enjoy those flavors, or there's a place for it 418 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:53,880 Speaker 2: in my humidor then go go do it. But this 419 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:57,400 Speaker 2: isn't the cigar. Oh, everybody's over Okay, here's what we're doing. 420 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:01,679 Speaker 2: This is more specific, I think to This is for 421 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 2: your friends who smoke cigars and if like, hey, you 422 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 2: want to try something with some punch, try something with 423 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:13,360 Speaker 2: some heat but not overwhelming the Alcon Bradley gatekeeper. We're 424 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 2: doing the toro right here. But it's time Fingers Maloy 425 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 2: for News of the week. 426 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 3: Well Tony NPR has the story and you know, as 427 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:22,439 Speaker 3: we put the show together. 428 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 1: Of course, this. 429 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:27,400 Speaker 3: Story can change thirty times in the next few hours. 430 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 3: But a fragile Gaza ceasefire is tested after Israel and 431 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 3: Hamas swap detainees and hostages. 432 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: So what we've got. 433 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 2: Here, And first things first, I don't care where your 434 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 2: politics are. It is so good that these these hostages 435 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 2: are home. It is a remarkable thing that has taken place. 436 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 2: Anytime we were able to assist hostages getting out of 437 00:22:54,600 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 2: that hell is good. This is incredible, incredible stuff. You've 438 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:04,400 Speaker 2: been hearing numbers twenty and twenty eight. The twenty were 439 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 2: those living. What the Israelis want are the remains of everyone, 440 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,400 Speaker 2: and that is where And remember, as we're recording this 441 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 2: right it's earlier than you're hearing it, so things may 442 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 2: have changed, So forgive us if we're not on top 443 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 2: of it. 444 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 1: To that latest bit of news. 445 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 2: They're very slow in the remains and it's very possible 446 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 2: that Hamas has removed the remains, has not kept them. 447 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 2: The Israelis want to give proper burials. This is about Judaism, 448 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 2: this is about respect, this is about honor, and they're 449 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 2: very serious about this and they're. 450 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: Very angry about it. 451 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 2: And there has been a slow roll of remains being returned. 452 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 2: They were supposed to be returned. Only four were returned 453 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 2: at last. As we're discussing it right now, as we 454 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 2: have the information right now, and that can put an 455 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,479 Speaker 2: end to this whole thing. That can put an end 456 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 2: to this very quickly. What then got followed up from 457 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:05,880 Speaker 2: President Trump and these world leaders in Charles Sheik Charmel Shehak, 458 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,880 Speaker 2: which is in Egypt, was the idea of how you 459 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 2: create do a building of the Gaza strip. And it's 460 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 2: very interesting because what these nations are saying is all right, 461 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 2: we'll buy in because and if that is the case, 462 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 2: if it happens like that, of course they're putting their 463 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 2: money in. They're going to be very concerned about protecting 464 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 2: their investment. And that is what ends Hamas's capability because 465 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,880 Speaker 2: they won't put up with it, they won't have it. 466 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,959 Speaker 2: And that's where the real change in this conversation is 467 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 2: not this fantasy of a two state solution. You can't 468 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 2: live next to people who want to murder you. And 469 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,400 Speaker 2: as Hamas has written in their charter, in their creat 470 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 2: it's who they are. So this changes the dynamic. And 471 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 2: I have my own thoughts, my own views. If a 472 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 2: way I didn't think about it can work and create 473 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 2: a safe Israel and therefore putting an. 474 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 1: End to terrorists. I'm all in putting an end to terrorists. 475 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 1: I'm all in. But this is not a good sign 476 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 1: as we're seeing it right now. 477 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 3: Well, I hesitated to bring this up because, of course, 478 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 3: like you mentioned, we're putting the show together a little 479 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,439 Speaker 3: earlier than normal, and this the story can change fifty 480 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 3: times between now and when it airs. But this is 481 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 3: just too big of a story to not at least 482 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 3: a touch upon. But having said that, I to be 483 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,159 Speaker 3: completely honest with you, you and I have talked about this 484 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 3: off air. I was actually surprised that there were still 485 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 3: hostages alive. 486 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 2: I am amazed, I am thrilled. It was the fear 487 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 2: of fears that there would be nobody to hand. 488 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 1: Over it is. 489 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 2: It is spectacular that seven hundred and thirty seven days 490 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 2: in hell. It is spectacular that people been able to 491 00:25:54,640 --> 00:26:01,159 Speaker 2: return home. But it's it's there, this is this is 492 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 2: the stuff being talked about in cigar lines. So we 493 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 2: talk about it here. So we're certainly right to be 494 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 2: talking about it. And yes, as we're discussing and information 495 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 2: will change, but this is all fraught, absolutely positively fraught. 496 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 3: Uh. 497 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 2: The the odds of this working as advertised three percent? 498 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 1: Yeah right, you know it's dumb and dumbers. You're telling 499 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 1: me there's a chance, Well, yeah, sure, there's there's a chance. 500 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: I'm not going to argue it. It's just this is 501 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:29,400 Speaker 1: hard stuff. 502 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 3: It is and While I appreciate the celebration, especially about 503 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 3: the hostages coming home and then maybe a return to 504 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 3: at least a period of non violence in the region, 505 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 3: you just have to say to yourself, Okay, how long 506 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,679 Speaker 3: is this going to last? Just based on what's happened 507 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 3: in the past, it's. 508 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 2: And and off. The quick doesn't look great. And then 509 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 2: I want to be wrong. I think everybody wants to 510 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 2: be wrong. And there's an extentive we're talking about America. 511 00:26:58,040 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 2: I just don't want to talk about it anymore. Can 512 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 2: I please focus on something else? 513 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if we're going get lucky or not. 514 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 1: I hope. 515 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:12,639 Speaker 2: So should you marinade your steak before the cooking? And 516 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:16,679 Speaker 2: the answer as well, it depends what do you like, 517 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:19,120 Speaker 2: but it does to. 518 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 1: An extent depend on the cut. It's eat drink smoke. 519 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 2: I'm Tony Kats and that right there is America's favorite 520 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,640 Speaker 2: amateur drinker fingers below I find it all Eat Drink 521 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 2: Smoke show dot com. The story was over at the 522 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 2: takeout the four cuts of steak. You should always marinate 523 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 2: before grilling. Now, before we get into anything, do you 524 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,360 Speaker 2: ever marinate steaks? No, you're not into the marinates. 525 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 3: No, A little salt, little pepper, that's about it. I 526 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:44,159 Speaker 3: season it. 527 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 1: I don't. 528 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,199 Speaker 3: It's very rare that I would marinate a steak. But 529 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 3: if I were to marinate a steak, it would generally 530 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:55,880 Speaker 3: be maybe a lesser cut of meat that I would 531 00:27:55,960 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 3: marinade to try to enhance the f and then I 532 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 3: would slow cook it, you know, do a reverse sere 533 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,919 Speaker 3: to maybe help with the tenderness of the steak. 534 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,159 Speaker 2: So the idea is, you know, depending on where the 535 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:16,640 Speaker 2: steak comes from, comes from, larger cuts, whole muscle cuts 536 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 2: maybe could get the marinade. And so they recommend here 537 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 2: a marinade on your flat iron steak, your surloin steak, 538 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 2: your try tip, and your skirt steak. Now, skirt steak, Yes, 539 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 2: because that's gonna be thinner. That's that's going to cook faster, 540 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 2: and it just it absorbed. To me, it absorbs better. 541 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 2: It's just a natural, uh to do with with a 542 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 2: a kind of marinade. There, Uh, skirt steak coming from 543 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 2: the middle of the cow, it could be a little 544 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 2: bit tough, so helping break that down a little bit. 545 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 1: I agree with that wholeheartedly. 546 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 2: On the surloins, I like the idea of this, because 547 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 2: you'll find the surloins right now at a better price 548 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 2: if you're in a store. But if you're going to 549 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 2: think of a sirloin as your ribbi or your. 550 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 1: Strip, you're wrong. 551 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 2: It's not how it's gonna come out, and you're gonna 552 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 2: get disappointed. So what I like about the marinade on 553 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 2: a sirloin is that you are forced to recognize that 554 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 2: it's something different. You're forced to take a little bit 555 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 2: of time, and that little bit of time, I think 556 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 2: is going to give you a lot of. 557 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: Result. Soy and honey, soy sauce. 558 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 2: And honey as a marinade, just a classic right there, 559 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 2: I think can do a really, really good job. Some 560 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 2: people would say go with some some more Southwestern flavors. 561 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 2: They recommend the lime juice, Cilantro and Chile's, and then 562 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 2: some people recommend orange juice. I have marinated steaks and 563 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 2: orange juice before and had miserable results. Miserable, terrible, awful, 564 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 2: not good, not like stuff that I made is part 565 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 2: of like a whole bunch of things. And I didn't 566 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 2: even serve them that so that could have just been 567 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 2: me not making it right. But as a concept, it 568 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 2: is right when it's not one of those standard cuts. 569 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 1: His fingers is talking about salt pepper grill. 570 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I've never attempted to use this as a marinade, 571 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 3: but the takeout in this piece suggests for skirt steak 572 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 3: maybe using yogurt as a as a marinad. Have you 573 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 3: ever used yogurt for for a marinade? 574 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 1: Wait on the skirts steak this? 575 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 3: Yes, no, No, Yogurt makes for a milder marinad for 576 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 3: your meat than citrus or vinegar, since it contains lactic acid, 577 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 3: a substance that can be that can add moisture to 578 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 3: meat without making it mushy, mushy, mushy, mushy, mushy, mushy mushy. 579 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 3: Right when I think yogurt on steak, I think mushi. 580 00:30:56,680 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 1: I don't. It's it's a good idea. It's a good idea. 581 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 2: Now the key here is get better steak. And that's 582 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 2: why you want Defiance Beef. Defiancebef dot com in Indiana, 583 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 2: ship directly to your door, cut to your specifications, age 584 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 2: twenty one days. The meat is fantastic. I've had the strips, 585 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 2: I've had the ribbis, I've had the tender loins. I 586 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 2: have had the ground beef. It is fantastic. And you 587 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 2: order your quarter cow, your half cow, your full cow, 588 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 2: and you use promo code eat drink smoke when you order, 589 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 2: you're gonna get one hundred and fifty dollars off. And 590 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 2: then after the. 591 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 1: Aging process, they're gonna give you a call and say, okay, 592 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 1: what do you want? 593 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 2: And based on what size you ordered, they'll be like, okay, 594 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 2: we'll get you this many strips and this many ribbys, 595 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 2: and how do you want to cut? And this and 596 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 2: that do you want? Do you want the soup bones? 597 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 2: That was the question I gotta ask, do you want 598 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 2: the soup bones? And I'm like, uh, yes, I do. 599 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 2: I'm gonna make my own beef broth, of course, my 600 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 2: own beef stock without question. Defiance d e f I 601 00:31:55,600 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 2: a nce defiancebeef dot com is where you want to 602 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 2: order from, and you want to use promo code, eat 603 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 2: drink smoke and get one hundred and fifty dollars off 604 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 2: your order and fingers. 605 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 1: We've done enough grilling. It matters, you know. 606 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 2: If I'm doing briskets, I only do prime briskets or 607 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 2: kosher briskets. I have tried choice, I have not had satisfaction. 608 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 2: I'll pay more with Defiance Beef overall, when you're buying 609 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 2: a quarter cow, a half cow, or a foll cow 610 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 2: at defines beef dot com, you're gonna pay less than 611 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 2: the supermarkets. 612 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 1: For sure. Those prices are nuts. 613 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 3: How often do you find yourself picking up a flat 614 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 3: iron steak or skirt steak? 615 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 2: I find myself with a flat iron if there's some 616 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 2: kind of deal going on. Skirt steak. I don't order 617 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 2: enough skirt steak. I don't order enough. I like a 618 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 2: skirt steak. I think you can do it well on 619 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 2: a grill. I think you can do it well cast iron. 620 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 2: I do think that the marinade is right, and I 621 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 2: just think it's easy, boom bop and done. 622 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 1: So yeah, I like it. 623 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 3: I really that's that's one thing I have never cooked with. 624 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 3: I don't have one is a cast iron. Oh, come on, 625 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 3: I know, go get it. So do you think I 626 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 3: here now in the house, Yes, the new house, which 627 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 3: he's not fully moved into yet. 628 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen. With the gas stove. Yes, this is weird. 629 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 1: It's your first gas stove. 630 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 3: Yes, I thirty eight years young and it's my first 631 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 3: gas stove and I don't have this. 632 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 1: So should I go could go back to thirty eight 633 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 1: years old? Let's just move on. 634 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 3: Should I go ahead and buy a new cast iron 635 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 3: skillet and season it? Or should I go antiquing hope 636 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,719 Speaker 3: to find a really old one and recondition it. 637 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 1: Okay, you need to listen to me. Okay, I'm listening. 638 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 2: If you buy a used cast iron skillet, huh, I 639 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 2: will hit you with a skillet with said skillet. But 640 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 2: I think we've been saying cast iron stove, cast iron skillet, 641 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 2: buy a new one, season it, work it in, give 642 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 2: it time. 643 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 1: Yes, that's exactly the way to do it. Take some pride. 644 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 3: What about the sense of accomplishment and satisfaction knowing that 645 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,839 Speaker 3: I brought an old cast iron skillet back to life? 646 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,480 Speaker 2: How about the pride and satisfaction one day showing up 647 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 2: to the show ready to do the show? 648 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 1: That would be great. What are you saying, don't do that? 649 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:34,359 Speaker 2: Get yourself something, get this, don't don't mort only knows 650 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 2: what they were making in that thing. 651 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 1: Don't you dare? 652 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 3: I'm envisioning God that the old ranch cook was out 653 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:51,359 Speaker 3: there with his cast iron skillet. Making Sonny, Yes, yes, 654 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 3: making some beans in the the cast iron skillet for 655 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 3: for the boys while they're out there ranching all day. 656 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,839 Speaker 3: And then somehow, you know, Sonny passed away and then 657 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 3: they thought, we can't use Sonny's skillet, And next thing 658 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:05,800 Speaker 3: you know, it's a good will waiting for me to 659 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 3: pick it up and then bring her back to life. 660 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:10,840 Speaker 3: You're saying, no, that's ridiculous. 661 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's ridiculous. I want to be on 662 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,200 Speaker 1: the record. I'm not saying it's ridiculous. 663 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:17,320 Speaker 2: You know. 664 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,359 Speaker 1: You're saying it's ridiculous for me to do it. I'm 665 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:20,280 Speaker 1: saying it's gross. 666 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:27,880 Speaker 2: There's a very large difference in ridiculous in gross. 667 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. No, No, don't get me wrong. I'm 668 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 1: sure people do it. 669 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 2: We're gonna get emails from Eat, Drink, Smoke Nation saying Tony, 670 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 2: you are such a primadonna, prude your joe. 671 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 1: You do this and you do that, and the next 672 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 1: thing you know, you're cooking delicious. 673 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 3: No, is it that it's cast iron? Or is it 674 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,359 Speaker 3: you would never buy any secondhand cook wear at all? 675 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,839 Speaker 3: Like would you buy a second hand chafing dish? 676 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:59,800 Speaker 2: Yes, I bought secondhand knives, and I'm questioning whether the 677 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:00,840 Speaker 2: cast iron. 678 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,359 Speaker 3: We have with secondhand now that you bring it up, Oh, 679 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,399 Speaker 3: so here we are. You're turning each rink smoke into 680 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 3: your own den of lies. 681 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,759 Speaker 2: No, I'm going back to remember, and if it is 682 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 2: indeed used, I have to stop using it immediately. 683 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 3: I don't think it is. I think I think I 684 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,880 Speaker 3: bought it. Ours is good present it. I'll take it 685 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 3: to the boys in the lab and we'll find out 686 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 3: how old it is. It's probably seventy years old. And 687 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 3: you didn't even know it. It's so great that you 688 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 3: don't have one. You know what, I will get you 689 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 3: one now. I will purchase you one. 690 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 1: You don't have to do that. I want to. It'll 691 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 1: be cheaper than the other gift I was going to 692 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:37,839 Speaker 1: get you for the new house. 693 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,360 Speaker 3: Do you use a little spray in it before you 694 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 3: before you cooking it. 695 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 1: I'm not having this conversation anymore.