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Speaker 1: My friends, I have a shocking and sad announcement.

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Speaker 2: WHOA, what's that?

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Speaker 1: And it pains me to make this. Yeah, our governor

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Speaker 1: is an idiot?

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Speaker 3: Are you talking about Governor Mike bron from the bron

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Speaker 3: Beckwith administration?

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Speaker 1: That's right, Hey, before we get to the governor, I mean,

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Speaker 1: we'll just mention this very briefly.

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Speaker 4: They know we spend a bunch time on it today.

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Speaker 1: But did you see that after months of us saying

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Speaker 1: that the Lieutenant Governor's office was under investigation by the

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Speaker 1: Marrion Kenny Prosecutor's office and a grand jury and then

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Speaker 1: being totally defiant on that, and Micah beck With denying

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Speaker 1: that that was happening, and then being very mean to

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Speaker 1: people who were saying the obvious, which is many people

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Speaker 1: had given information to Marion Kenny Prosecutor's office for the

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Speaker 1: purposes of assumably it was going to go to this

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Speaker 1: said grand jury. That has now come out that there

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Speaker 1: is indeed a grand jury investigating along with the Marri

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Speaker 1: Kenny Prosecutor's offers the office of Micah Beckwith.

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Speaker 2: Did I did see that? Ultiple news sources are reporting that.

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Speaker 1: And thus far it is now eleven oh six now

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Speaker 1: we noted this at ten o six. It manages to

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Speaker 1: be of integrity and taking the moral high horse, and

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Speaker 1: blah blah blah. Mike has not called me to apologize yet,

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Speaker 1: which would be the you know, are you expecting that

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Speaker 1: probably be the decent thing to do. It'd be the

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Speaker 1: moral thing to do if.

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Speaker 3: You wanted to go through the three step process. Here's

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Speaker 3: all I do know, mistake, apologize, take corrective action.

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Speaker 1: Now you tell me if any of this sounds unreasonable, Casey,

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Speaker 1: and then we'll get to the governor being an idiot.

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Speaker 1: By the way, its Kennelly Casey Show. Welcome to our program,

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Speaker 1: but this is basically what we do every hour. This

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Speaker 1: is not new for us. If you're new to the program,

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Speaker 1: all you would have to do is call and say, Rob,

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Speaker 1: you and Casey were absolutely correct that there is a

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Speaker 1: grand jury investigating my office. I'm sorry forever doubting you.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry for questioning the integrity of you or anyone

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Speaker 1: who said this was going on. You guys were absolutely right.

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Speaker 1: I stand by that we didn't do anything wrong. I

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Speaker 1: welcome this investigation. I don't think they'll find anything. Sorry

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Speaker 1: for or doubting you or having anybody else value.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, does that seem unreasonable?

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Speaker 2: No, but you're not going to get that.

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Speaker 4: He's a man of integrity.

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Speaker 2: You're not going to get that.

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Speaker 1: Wouldn't that be the integrity driven thing to do? Since

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Speaker 1: we all know the little games that he has played

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Speaker 1: with people about me, about us, mostly about me, but

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Speaker 1: about us, the way he's tried to vilify me to people.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he will do a segment on that coming up sooner.

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Speaker 1: The things Micah beckw Withitt has said to people who

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Speaker 1: he thinks are on his side. Maybe that'll be a

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Speaker 1: fun segment will do coming up and talk all about it,

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Speaker 1: the things Micah beck with has said to people who

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Speaker 1: And here's the other crazy thing about Micah making those

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Speaker 4: Jury and what was going on.

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Speaker 1: He has no idea who's given information to the Marion

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Speaker 4: And it shows you what.

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Speaker 1: A habitual, stone cold liar the guy is. If he's

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Speaker 1: willing to do that when he knew it was going on,

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Speaker 1: he absolutely knew he was going on. So maybe coming

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Speaker 1: up in the future we'll talk about things. Micah Beck

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Speaker 1: with this said about meet other people.

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Speaker 3: Well, you had Representative Craig Haggard go on the record

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Speaker 3: and confirm that he had met with the Mary County prosecutors.

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Speaker 4: Sure.

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Speaker 1: And again it's ridiculous because an investigation doesn't mean an indictment.

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Speaker 2: Correct, and an indictment does not mean charge.

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Speaker 1: And if he had come out and said that, look,

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Speaker 1: we have ripped him over and over and over again

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Speaker 1: gonna find nothing, have at it. How can I assist you?

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Speaker 1: Then I'd have said, cool, we're done here, get back

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Speaker 4: I mean, like remember the because a lot of the

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Speaker 1: Now I think it's a much bigger than that now,

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Speaker 1: finally had to fess up. We didn't do any sort

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Speaker 1: So he just sat his boys down, was like, hey,

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Speaker 1: That It's always just a spec of truth with him. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: he probably did ask him, did you do it? No

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Speaker 1: problem is according to Aaron Sheridan, who was on this program,

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Speaker 1: was that the people were allegedly viewing it said Micah

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Speaker 1: So My point is with all of this, it's never

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Speaker 1: this very personal because at one point I considered Mica

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Speaker 1: And for some reason I bought it hook line and

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Speaker 1: zinger and said, no, he's going to be a fighter

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Speaker 4: Going to go back. Yeah, And I so like, I

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Speaker 4: look back at this.

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Speaker 1: You know that we talking about the TV show American Greed,

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Speaker 1: and I love that show. And when they interview these

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Speaker 1: one of the things they talk about is how compelling

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Speaker 1: exactly while it's not a financial fraud or financial crime

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Speaker 1: with me and Micah, it's exactly what these people do.

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Speaker 1: in this case, it's money. They're incredibly compelling in their believability,

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Speaker 1: of Micah, that's what he did with me. He used

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Speaker 1: and I got to own this. He would not be

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Speaker 1: He would not have gotten that through that convention, if

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Speaker 1: so badly wanted to fix property taxes in this state

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Speaker 2: Well, you wanted somebody to hold people accountable and he

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And he told me over and over again publicly privately,

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Speaker 1: I want this brother. I want to be the guy

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Speaker 4: Now in Hindza.

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Speaker 1: It wouldn't matter anyway, because whether Micah was in there

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Speaker 1: your fault. No, it's not my fault. First of all,

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Speaker 1: I take all of this. It hurts me deeply because

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Speaker 1: And he's the biggest piece of trash of them all.

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Speaker 1: He's got in there and done absolutely nothing. He tried

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Speaker 1: Braun made his choice. And what's he done since then?

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Speaker 1: He's just a traveling road show to the pizza Kings,

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Speaker 1: total fraud. He's a total con man. He's an habitual.

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Speaker 2: Liar's having a bad week.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, good, ohb He has a whole bunch more of them,

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Speaker 1: because what he is doing is screwing the people of

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Speaker 4: There are numerous people who have been caught in this.

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Speaker 1: Look, I just saw this a little bit of humility

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Speaker 1: I'm more than willing to do it because people know,

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Speaker 1: this is going on. He knows the suffering that these people,

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Speaker 4: And he lied.

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Speaker 1: He didn't flinch an inch that those people were suffering.

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Speaker 1: He didn't flinch an inch that he was causing those

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Speaker 4: Well, we have to remind ever to what an idiot

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Speaker 2: We can do that next.

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Speaker 3: We have to remind everybody at this point everything's allegations

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Speaker 1: But you can bank on the lies will continue. For

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Speaker 3: Listening to the Kendall and Casey Show, it is ninety

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Speaker 4: Oh from one habitual liar to another.

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Speaker 3: So there's this group Foundation of Government Accountability and they

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Speaker 4: Why would they be sitting now with Braun?

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Speaker 3: They were asking him some questions. He said, the founders

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Speaker 3: we believe in balance budgets. Uh huh, fiscal responsibility and

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Speaker 4: Ye believe in Indiana.

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Speaker 2: Balance budgets huh, because it's the law. You have to

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Speaker 3: Now, fiscal responsibility, and building a state government that's innovative, lean,

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Speaker 4: Is that right? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Fiscal responsibility.

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Speaker 1: So he just raised taxes by one billion dollars to

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Speaker 4: So is that.

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Speaker 2: You want to hear him, let's hear him.

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Speaker 4: Well, do I want to hear him? Or will I

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Speaker 2: You'll hear him, Kevin roll It.

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Speaker 5: It's a pleasure to serve hoosiers. I think the question

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Speaker 5: to what the founders intended and it was not to

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Speaker 3: He said that he didn't think the founders wanted a

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Speaker 4: Well, he's a career politician.

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Speaker 2: Here you go.

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Speaker 4: He went from school board.

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Speaker 1: See this is the BS right, because the guy wears

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Speaker 1: career what do you call that? Like, it's exactly what

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Speaker 4: He's so bad.

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Speaker 1: He has managed to bring Rob Kendall and socialist Jesse

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Speaker 1: Just I weep for our state. But you know, it's

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Speaker 4: Because they craft all the policies.

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Speaker 2: It's about a three minute long video.

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Speaker 4: Oh change, it's please don't.

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Speaker 3: It's nicely done. They've got some drone shots of the

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Speaker 1: But does anybody ask him, Hey, moron, how can you

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Speaker 1: say that you're fiscally responsible when you just raise taxes

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Speaker 3: I want to play one more clip for you, Number eleven, Kevin,

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Speaker 5: As being the most accessible governor we're ever going to

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Speaker 5: have in entrepreneurial So I'm inviting input. Most of the

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Speaker 4: My employees. And if you.

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Speaker 5: Actually get them involved, they're going to tell you what

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Speaker 3: Okay, let's think about that. He says he got his

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Speaker 4: Correct?

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Speaker 3: Now, what have the taxpayers asked the governor to take

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Speaker 4: Property taxes?

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Speaker 2: Correct?

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Speaker 4: Gues taxes? Yeah, yeah, IDC long.

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Speaker 1: Yes, longlist is another got to stand by the government

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Speaker 4: Oh not that he's a big deal. Like I told

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Speaker 1: But I think that's why they do the meetings over there,

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Speaker 4: Because apparently, well, never mind, I'll come back to that.

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Speaker 2: Maybe he just didn't want people to see you walking

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Speaker 1: Well, but my point is the last voice in his

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Speaker 4: A oh man, almost did it again. He's just a

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Speaker 2: The showcase is some self control.

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm doing very well today.

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Speaker 1: You admit you thought there was gonna be at least

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Speaker 4: Oh, there's been.

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Speaker 1: But what do you do? He just cut off contact.

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Speaker 1: He'll come on Tony Show, He's going on Hammer Nigel

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Speaker 1: this afternoon. Who'd he cut off contact with?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Me?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Well, and why do you do that?

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Speaker 1: Because we're going to roast him and hold him accountable

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Speaker 4: He doesn't want input from the people.

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Speaker 1: Why do you start sucking up to that little group

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Speaker 1: He wants people that are gonna smooch his butt cheeks and.

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Speaker 4: Go, oh, it was so great to be at the

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Speaker 4: Governor's manson He listened to us. He really cares.

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Speaker 3: It's interesting because he's eventually gonna have to make a

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Speaker 1: No, but I think he's made the choice, which is

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Speaker 4: I don't know if he used the.

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Speaker 1: Term fight fight, fight back, then maybe that was just

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Speaker 4: I didn't mean it, say it bye.

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Speaker 1: That's who Braun is and it's why, and he deserves it,

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Speaker 1: and the greatest thing for our state, the greatest thing

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Speaker 1: a big shaky John McCain thums down and pulls the

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Speaker 1: plug on this redistricting, and he tells Rod tells Rod

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Speaker 1: Bray tells Mike Braun in no uncertain terms, I am

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Speaker 1: the captain of this ship. You are my you know what,

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Speaker 1: and I'm in charge here and we done airby go home.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I won't get that lucky though.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to Kennilly Casey on ninety three WIBC.

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Speaker 4: Well, in know case government, it's a great grift if you.

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Speaker 1: Can sink your fangs into it, and you got to

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Speaker 1: give credit. Look, this is the thing I found when

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Speaker 1: I was, for a very brief time in my life

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Speaker 1: involved in the government is and one of the things

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Speaker 1: that I was appalled by and had to get out

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Speaker 1: of there was these people who dedicate their lives to.

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Speaker 4: The grift like they are there.

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Speaker 1: These are people who couldn't accomplish anything in their real existence,

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Speaker 1: and yet they have figured out that if they can

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Speaker 1: worm their way into the government. They are set and

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Speaker 1: on gravy trains central and no matter how bad they

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Speaker 1: actually are at the government, or how many times they

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Speaker 1: get told to get lost or whatever, they will not

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Speaker 1: give it up. See our secretary of State. Let's review

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Speaker 1: his track record. Right, He was dismissed paperwork shows by

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Speaker 1: the Secretary of State's office when he worked there. He

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Speaker 1: somehow managed to come back, but then ran out of

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Speaker 1: there before he was about to be dismissed again paperwork Shows.

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Speaker 1: Then went to work for Pence. Nobody really knows what

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Speaker 1: he did for Pens then decided he was going to

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Speaker 1: run for Secretary of State. Then, when the person who

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Speaker 1: he thought wasn't gonna run for reelection decided was gonna

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Speaker 1: run for reelection instead of man and up and saying

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Speaker 1: I want this office, I'm a fight for it, he

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Speaker 1: cowardly quit, decided to run for Congress, did horrible in

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Speaker 1: a run for Congress. That's when he voted in a

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Speaker 1: county different where he's taking his homestead credit, and then

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Speaker 1: decided to run for Secretary of State again.

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Speaker 4: That is some dedication to the grift, my friend, but

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Speaker 4: it paid off for him.

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Speaker 1: Look at the life diego Morales lives because he would

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Speaker 1: not give up on the grift. Look at this woman

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Speaker 1: in northern Indiana. Jennifer Ruth Green runs for Congress. Bad

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Speaker 1: candidate loses, somehow is able to worm her way into

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Speaker 1: the Brawn administration and for her defeat. When she ran

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Speaker 1: for Congress, her reward for being rejected by the voters was,

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Speaker 1: here's a two hundred and seventy five thousand dollars a

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Speaker 1: year job. Despite being given life's lottery, she couldn't just

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Speaker 1: sit there and be thankful. She had to play fast

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Speaker 1: and loose with the rules. According to the Inspector General's

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Speaker 1: investigation and the Braun administrations own what was that improvement

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Speaker 1: plan or whatever that they pip? Oh, yeah, the pip, Yes,

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Speaker 1: the PIP. From the moment she got there, she started

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Speaker 1: playing fast and loose with the rules. She gets bounced

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Speaker 1: out of the Braun administration. And now instead of just

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Speaker 1: going you know what, I've done enough damage to the taxpayers.

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Speaker 1: I'm just going to go get a real job somewhere. Now,

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Speaker 1: Jennifer Ruth Green has sprinted out and announced she's running

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Speaker 1: for Congress again.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the PIP was the result because of well what

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Speaker 3: they're saying were improper political activities, misuse of state property,

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Speaker 3: ghost employment, also retaliation, and you're right. She was the

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Speaker 3: former Indiana Secretary of Public Safety, but she has since

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Speaker 3: launched her campaign for Indiana's first congressional district. She did

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Speaker 3: that the day after Governor Mike Braun from the Braun

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Speaker 3: beck With administration called a special legislative session to redraw

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Speaker 3: the maps. Okay, let's listen to just a smidgeon of

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Speaker 3: her campaign ad after nearly.

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Speaker 6: Defeating far left Congressman Frank Mrvan Is twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 4: I'm ready to finish the mission.

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Speaker 2: The stakes couldn't be hired.

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Speaker 6: When we fire Frank Mrvan and take back northwest Indiana

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Speaker 6: for the first time since nineteen twenty eight. Republicans will

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Speaker 6: keep the House and we'll stop radical Democrats from impeaching

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Speaker 6: President Trump in Congress.

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Speaker 4: All stand shoulder and the shoulder with our.

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Speaker 6: President to rebuild American manufacturing for middle class jobs, fight

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Speaker 6: for bigger paychecks at lower prices, Support our farmers and

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Speaker 6: rural communities, Secure the border and deport violent illegal immigrants.

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Speaker 6: Back the blue and defend the right to life and

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Speaker 6: the Secondment.

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Speaker 4: This isn't about Camall Pugh.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so let's clear by a couple of things. She's

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Speaker 1: what she says. She nearly beat him after nearly defeating Okay,

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Speaker 1: so she lost by five and a half points. She

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Speaker 1: lost by more than twelve thousand votes. It wasn't closed.

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Speaker 1: I think the guy who ran the last time this

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Speaker 1: past election was basically the same thing. Okay, that's the

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Speaker 1: first part of it. But think about this. So according

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Speaker 1: to which source was it? To make sure I get

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Speaker 1: this right, this is Fox fifty nine. It was the

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Speaker 1: Inspector General has accused Green, according to Fox, viling the

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Speaker 1: Indiana Code of Ethics ten times in the couple of

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Speaker 1: months that she was in that office. And what does

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Speaker 1: she do? She just like these people there is like

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Speaker 1: there is serious. I don't know what the diagnosis would be,

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Speaker 1: but the behavior. Are you sensing the pattern? Whether it's

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Speaker 1: Braun who just lies all the time and never thinks

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Speaker 1: to think about it, or Micah who lies all the

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Speaker 1: time or never thinks to think about it, or this woman, right,

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Speaker 1: a normal person with any decency or humility would be

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Speaker 1: mortified by their behavior. They'd be like, man, I really

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Speaker 1: had a great opportunity and I blew it and I

543
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Speaker 1: let the taxpayers down, and I need to like kind

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Speaker 1: of go think about this for a while and then

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Speaker 1: figure out if there's a way I can make this

546
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Speaker 1: right with people. She just sprints to the next grift

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Speaker 1: and she's not apologetic at all. There's no apology in

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Speaker 1: that video. There's no hey man, I made a mistake,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, you know.

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Speaker 4: None of that.

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Speaker 1: She just acts like it just didn't happen. And you

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Speaker 1: noticed with Micah they still won't come off the spokesman

553
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Speaker 1: acting like, we don't know anything about this.

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Speaker 4: There's documentations happening, Oh, grand juries are sealed. We don't

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Speaker 4: know anything about this, Like.

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Speaker 1: This is what these people do. They should not be

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Speaker 1: allowed to roam out in decent society. They cause immense

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Speaker 1: harm to the public at large, and there is something

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Speaker 1: seriously mentally wrong with these people and they're disconnect from

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Speaker 1: how the rest of decent society behaves.

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Speaker 3: She called the allegations baseless and said that she would

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Speaker 3: address evil with evil, and she said she's running to

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Speaker 3: support Donald Trump, and she also emphasized the importance of Republicans.

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Speaker 1: Why Casey, if the allegations were baseless, why did she

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Speaker 1: sign the plan?

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Speaker 2: Don't know let's talk about the signs.

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Speaker 1: Oh yes, okay, So this article came out that said

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Speaker 1: this article came out and said that the that the

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Speaker 1: city of Fort Wayne is about to spend Let's see

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Speaker 1: who did this, by the way, w f FT I

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Speaker 1: think is the news l Yes, WFFT TV that the

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Speaker 1: City of Fort Wayne. City of Fort Wayne is about

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Speaker 1: to spend eight hundred and fifteen thousand dollars on welcome

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Speaker 1: signs for I sixty nine and the US twenty four interchange.

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Speaker 1: Eight hundred and fifteen thousand dollars. What you don't know?

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Speaker 1: You're in Fort Wayne?

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Speaker 4: Used to tell you what.

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Speaker 2: Do the signs say? Do they say Indiana for the Bowl?

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Speaker 3: Wait? Those are the signs that are being taken down statewide.

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Speaker 1: So there's We were led to believe that if you've

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Speaker 1: got property tax relief, that the police and fire departments

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Speaker 1: would disappear.

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Speaker 4: It's all over.

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Speaker 1: You know, you'd be in one kids would be in

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Speaker 1: all be in one room schoolhouses. But this city has

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Speaker 1: eight hundred and fifteen thousand dollars to spend on signage

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Speaker 1: for an interchange.

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Speaker 3: Wasn't it wasn't ally county schools that were doing a REFERENDU.

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Speaker 1: Oh, they got a referendum going on right now. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: them and Avon. Okay, By the way, I think they

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Speaker 1: may have made a big mistake because I saw in

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Speaker 1: the Amon County chatterboard. I don't know if this is

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Speaker 1: true or not, but people are really dumb sometimes this

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Speaker 1: could be true. They said I was going to vote

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Speaker 1: against the referendum, and then you guys sent Beck without

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Speaker 1: the knock on doors, and I'll vote.

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Speaker 2: For Oh yeah, that happened. That was the thing.

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Speaker 1: I really don't know what the referendum past, but that would

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Speaker 1: be funny if he tanked the referendum for the no people.

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Speaker 4: Also the one hundred and fifteen thousand dollars out of sign.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I'm also I'm also thinking about how yesterday Governor Braun

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Speaker 3: he announced that Indiana is going to return to the

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Speaker 3: Crossroads of America branding and they're gonna what They're going

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Speaker 3: to replace the current Indiana for the bold.

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Speaker 2: Motto that's on the state sign.

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Speaker 3: Sure, and it's like, you know, Governor Holcombe took down

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Speaker 3: the Crossroads of America signs and put up the Indiana

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Speaker 3: for the Bold signs, And it's almost like if you

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Speaker 3: if you see that branch, by the way, which is

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Speaker 3: i DC's motto. I DC's motto, Indiana for the bull.

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Speaker 1: No, it should be for the rich, right like it

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Speaker 1: should say for the rich, because in that what they

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Speaker 1: are there for the rich.

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Speaker 4: So just cross out bold and put riches.

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Speaker 3: If you just put that in people's face enough, they'll

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Speaker 3: they'll start to believe it. And we just want you

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Speaker 3: to see the I ed C motto over and over again.

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Speaker 3: You come into the state, and it might as well

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Speaker 3: have just said, welcome to ie ed C, not welcome

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Speaker 3: to Indiana, not welcome to the Crossroads of America, welcome

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Speaker 3: to the.

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Speaker 4: I ed C.

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Speaker 2: Because that's what they did.

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Speaker 3: And now they're gonna take all those down and they're

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Speaker 3: gonna start integrating the Crossroads of America back, which I'm

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Speaker 3: happy with, but it's just more expense.

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Speaker 1: Because Casey, if you're a multi billion dollar company, are

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Speaker 1: you picking what state you're going to based on what

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Speaker 1: the street sign says?

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Speaker 2: Sign says Yeah, I mean.

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Speaker 4: We were kind of on the fence, but that for

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Speaker 4: the bowls we were out.

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Speaker 1: But once the Crossroads of America sold, it's not the

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Speaker 1: money or the tax and centers of the abatements that

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Speaker 1: didn't was the sign?

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Speaker 4: All right, Abduel's with us. Next, well, we'll talk about

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Speaker 4: by the latest going on with our lieutenant governor.

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Speaker 2: It's Kenna lu Casey on ninety three w IBC.

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Speaker 7: So the Lieutenant governor is a deed under investigation or

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Speaker 7: thought as it leased by the grand jury. Let's go

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Speaker 7: to one of the guys who was one of the

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Speaker 7: first people to say that was taking place.

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Speaker 1: I hate to say these words, but you were right,

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Speaker 1: Abdul keeps you. Baz joins us now in our operator

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Speaker 1: of Indie Politics dot Org A Duel.

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Speaker 4: Hello.

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Speaker 8: You know, as much as I like being right, I

649
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Speaker 8: hate being right about the stuff i'm right about because

650
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Speaker 8: using the things i'm right about are things are really

651
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Speaker 8: bad and really not good. And this is not going

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Speaker 8: to be good. And I'm just waiting for the one

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Speaker 8: person say what did the Lieutenant governor know and when

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Speaker 8: did he know it?

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 1: And you know we talked about this lot that of

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Speaker 1: course the program today. The thing they should be infuriating

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Speaker 1: to people is not whether Lieutenant Governor's or his office

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Speaker 1: or under investigation by the Mary Kenny Prosecutor's office the

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Speaker 1: Grand jury.

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Speaker 4: They are We've known that for months.

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Speaker 1: It's this is another example of blatantly dishonest and deceitful

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Speaker 1: behavior because everybody knew this was taking place, and yet

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Speaker 1: he was so adamant and so forceful when he would

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Speaker 1: get asked about it.

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Speaker 8: All I had to say was, I can't comment on

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Speaker 8: any grandeury investigation. Or I can say is if we're

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Speaker 8: fully coopery with law enforcement, we look forward to a

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Speaker 8: thin type of investigation.

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Speaker 4: The clearer name.

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Speaker 8: We always believed in the attained the high moral ethical

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Speaker 8: standards of government, and we'll just see where it goes.

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Speaker 8: But we did not do anything wrong and we stand

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Speaker 8: by ball. That's all you got to say in that's

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Speaker 8: all you gotta do. But that's not Michaeh's style. Micha

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Speaker 8: is combative, and Michael loves a television camera, and Michael

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Speaker 8: loves an audience that.

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Speaker 4: I can respect.

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Speaker 8: However, if you're gonna love television audience, to make sure

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Speaker 8: that television loves you for the right reason.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And again, if you're just new to the program today

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Speaker 1: and haven't been paying attendment hiding under a rock somewhere

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Speaker 1: the office of the Lieutenant Governor Micah beckwith according to

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Speaker 1: Indie Star. Numerous other outlets are in Central Indiana. There

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Speaker 1: is a grand jury looking into we believe we know

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Speaker 1: what it is, exactly what we've been saying it is

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Speaker 1: for months now, which is the AI porn stuff, ghost employment.

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Speaker 1: And again, a grand jury investigation doesn't mean an indictment.

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Speaker 1: An indictment doesn't mean a conviction. We've never said any

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Speaker 1: of that. We simply said this is going on. We

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Speaker 1: know multiple people who have given information to the Marrion

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Speaker 1: Kenny Prosecutor's office, and they were so forceful against that.

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Speaker 1: You say, you look so deceitful and dishonest by not

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Speaker 1: acknowledging the obvious.

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Speaker 8: But I get some time this weekend. I had to

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Speaker 8: go through our WBC archives and go back and find

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Speaker 8: that Friday, that the that Aaron Sheridan came and the

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Speaker 8: story broke on.

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Speaker 4: We both did it.

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Speaker 3: So.

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Speaker 1: Aaron Sheridan was a member of Micah's office who alleges

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Speaker 1: she was a senior advisor who alleges that she viewed

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Speaker 1: artificial intelligence pornography in the Lieutenant Governor's office. She alleged

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Speaker 1: two individuals who were working as a part of Micah's

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Speaker 1: office were viewing it and sharing it. She came on

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Speaker 1: our program, shared that story in great deal detail, also

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Speaker 1: said that that they they these two individuals, said Michaeh

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Speaker 1: was aware that the thing existed, and Aaron claims she

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Speaker 1: told Sherry Ellis Micah beckw With's chief of staff about

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Speaker 1: this after it happened, and she did nothing.

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Speaker 4: So I don't wanted to set up who that is.

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Speaker 1: And so she came on this program, told that story

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Speaker 1: in great detail, then one on with You with Indie

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Speaker 1: Politics and told.

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Speaker 8: The story as well, exactly. And that's where things about

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Speaker 8: the ghost employment came up out people you know, not

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Speaker 8: coming into work or filled out a fake time cards,

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Speaker 8: the whole nine yards. And this is all what the

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Speaker 8: grand jury is looking at right now. It's not saying

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Speaker 8: anybody broke the law, but this is what the grand

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Speaker 8: jury is looking at. And beck With went on Hammer

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Speaker 8: nine afternoon saying, Aaron's crazy. She's just going to employee

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Speaker 8: Robin Robin Abdullah blah blah. No one reads, no one

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Speaker 8: listens to them. I don't read their work, blah blah blah.

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Speaker 8: Well how you like me?

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Speaker 4: Now?

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Speaker 8: I believe it's I believe it's a country song. I

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Speaker 8: got actually quite a country song.

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Speaker 1: This is like basic shoe leather work to figure out

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Speaker 1: this stuff was going on. But it comes back to

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Speaker 1: a reoccurring theme with Micah where it's either at best

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Speaker 1: deceptive behavior, at worst blatant dishonesty, And it goes back

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Speaker 1: to things like how did you end up at Game

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Speaker 1: three with a of the NBA Finals with the high

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Speaker 1: profile known felon He can't tell a coherent, consistent story,

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Speaker 1: the stuff with the call that we caught him on

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Speaker 1: numerous lies on you come back to even this story

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Speaker 1: where he tries to claim he didn't know who Lo

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Speaker 1: Bianco was the guy who broke the story Tom Lobianca, Well,

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Speaker 1: Labianka spent a whole day with him before this story

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Speaker 1: ever broke. And then you know, he tries to claim, well,

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Speaker 1: I heard about the AI porn video from Lo Bianco,

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Speaker 1: and Lobianca is like, no, no, no, Michael told me, but

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Speaker 1: heard about it from somebodying the treasurer's office. Like all

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Speaker 1: of these things, the stories just don't add up, and

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Speaker 1: you're saying, these are kind of easy things to remember,

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Speaker 1: and if you're not being consistent or accurate on those,

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Speaker 1: what else are you being inconsistent and inaccurate on you.

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Speaker 8: Know, what's the difference between Michael back with Hi dacon

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Speaker 8: Rales About two inches and some hair. That's about it, all.

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Speaker 4: Right, So what do you think is going to happen

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Speaker 4: now with this?

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Speaker 1: Because again I've said it from the beginning, does not

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Speaker 1: mean anybody's getting indicted, does not mean anybody's getting convicted.

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Speaker 1: But what do you think the next step is now?

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Speaker 1: Because this grand jury has on multiple occasions engaged as

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Speaker 1: a part of this investigation.

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Speaker 8: Here's what I see happening next. It is November three,

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Speaker 8: and then the law makers are back the Senate convenes.

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Speaker 8: My get back was at the top of the at

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Speaker 8: the gavel called in the Senate. Just the look I

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Speaker 8: will be there because the look on everybody's face, their

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Speaker 8: body language will tell me everything that I need to know,

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Speaker 8: all right. And I can see like, okay, I can

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Speaker 8: see a conversation. I'm like, we got to get rid

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Speaker 8: of this guy.

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Speaker 1: But what they could do until he's con you know,

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Speaker 1: in the save India have to be convicted of a

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Speaker 1: felony in order to be removed from office.

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Speaker 4: What can they actually do with the guy? I'm doing

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Speaker 4: some research on that this week. Okay, very good, real quick,

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Speaker 4: you mentioned this.

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Speaker 1: So speaking of Abdul as our guests, speaking of special

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Speaker 1: session that's going down supposed to be going down Monday,

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Speaker 1: we got into this on State House happenings.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 1: It seems like the governor has forced Rod Bray's hand.

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Speaker 1: It feels like and I'm loaded to ever defend Rod Bray,

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Speaker 1: but it seems like the pro ten of the Senate,

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Speaker 1: the leader of the Senate, it seems like he tried

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Speaker 1: to politely tell the governor on numerous occasions, don't do this, Yes,

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Speaker 1: don't do it. You don't have the votes. Don't make

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Speaker 1: us do this. You're not gonna like how it goes.

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Speaker 1: The governor has now basically forced his hand. Will Rod

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Speaker 1: Bray be willing to stand up to the governor and

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Speaker 1: torpedo this thing?

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Speaker 4: Or is he gonna fold? I don't think.

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Speaker 8: I don't think rodel fold because I Rod folds and

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Speaker 8: it's gonna be that's gonna look even worse for him

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Speaker 8: and as a Senate President pro tem. But what I

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Speaker 8: do think it's going to happen is Bray's gonna tell

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Speaker 8: the members vote your conscience, not gonna strong arm anybody

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Speaker 8: vote your conscience. He will tell them, vot your conscience

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Speaker 8: and be mindful of what your constituents want, and what

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Speaker 8: are your constituents prime what are your constituents priorities right now?

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Speaker 8: What do you want to do next session? And I

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Speaker 8: also remember too, we're gonna have this guy here for

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Speaker 8: the next three years and change if he lasts out

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Speaker 8: law because.

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Speaker 4: They really are. He Braun really is.

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Speaker 1: And it's kind of funny to say this, but he's

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Speaker 1: trying to almost bully the Senate into doing what he wants.

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Speaker 1: It basically appears that he's saying, all right, well, you

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Speaker 1: may say you don't have the votes, but let's see

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Speaker 1: how you do when that board goes you know, green

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Speaker 1: and red, it's time to pick a lever, right, because

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Speaker 1: that's how they vote. Red's are nose and greens or yes,

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Speaker 1: and basically saying, well, we'll see if you got the

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Speaker 1: stones to do it when everybody's looking now, guys like me,

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Speaker 1: I would love to do it, and I'd love to

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Speaker 1: get there and give a big John McCain shaky thumbs down.

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Speaker 4: In front of everyone. But you may have a point, Well,

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Speaker 4: these guys.

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Speaker 8: Wilt, I don't I don't think they'll wilt and and

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Speaker 8: I'll do and I'll do fetish to Governor Braun. I

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Speaker 8: will argue that this is not the work of Governor Braun.

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Speaker 8: Oh no, it's so it's Trump, you know, it's it's

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Speaker 8: not Trump either. It's Trump, but it's also another individual involved,

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Speaker 8: see it the cos.

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Speaker 4: Oho, the chief of staff. Yeah, oh okay.

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Speaker 8: So basically, based some promises with the Trump people, we

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Speaker 8: can get this done, and now they're stuck between a

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Speaker 8: rock and a hard play.

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Speaker 1: So basically, because we talked about this before as we

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Speaker 1: wrap up this interview here, but if he's going to

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Speaker 1: do it, should have done it back in August. He's

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Speaker 1: just that we're coming in, we're gonna vote it up,

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Speaker 1: vote it down. It'll be what it'll be. And we're

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Speaker 1: done here and we're moving on. If he was gonna

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Speaker 1: do it, but now he's strung it out for so long,

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Speaker 1: he's given the other side time to mobilize. There's literally

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Speaker 1: fierce opposition to this, and he's he being broad is

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Speaker 1: in the worst of all worlds with this.

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Speaker 8: It it's it's there's it's a no, it's a no

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Speaker 8: win situation either either your damned if you do.

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Speaker 4: If you do it, then you're damn if you don't.

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Speaker 8: And this this is what happens when you when you

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Speaker 8: tie yourself to that Trump train and trying to please

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Speaker 8: know the big Orange guy. Okay, that's fine, but you

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Speaker 8: gotta remember you still got your constituents here who have

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Speaker 8: a lot of other concerning issues like energy inflation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and Rod Bray don't care about Donald Trump because

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Speaker 1: Rod Bray don't got to deal with Donald Trump. Rod

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Speaker 1: Bray's got to worry about keeping a super majority so

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Speaker 1: that he can go kick his feet up at the

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Speaker 1: end of the day and go I can do whatever

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Speaker 1: I want to do and ain't nobody can stop me.

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Speaker 4: So I think it's gonna be fascinating.

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Speaker 1: So if you had to say, right now, will there

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Speaker 1: be a vote, will Rod Bray let it come to

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Speaker 1: a vote?

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Speaker 4: And will it pass? Vote? Yes? Pass? No? Okay, I

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Speaker 4: say easily by ten votes. Oh you don't think it'll

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Speaker 4: be close? No? All right, find him over at Indie

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Speaker 4: Politics dot Org. I do to catch your boss. Thank you,

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Speaker 4: thank you, and that is gonna do it for us today.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Casey, great job as always, and same to

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Speaker 1: Kevin most importantly, thank you to you, the listener. Without you,

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Speaker 1: there is no US stick around Tony Katz. Coming up next,

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