1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: He will be on at Grand Park in Westfield. 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 2: Certainly from a temperature standpoint, although it's a gorgeous day, 3 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 2: good day to be out in Westfield, going to be 4 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 2: packed in the world of sports here over the next 5 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 2: couple of days. Colts Packers joint practice today three o'clock 6 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:17,479 Speaker 2: and then the live golf outing taking place this weekend 7 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 2: as well. Right now at Colts camp there are a 8 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:25,240 Speaker 2: couple of guys throwing the football around in the fan zone. 9 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 2: Eddie wins the last time he threw a football like 10 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 2: throw a pass, a true pass of a football couple 11 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 2: of weeks ago. Probably how far do you think you 12 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 2: can throw a ball in the air right now? 13 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 1: Thirty forty maybe yards. 14 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 2: You can add one of the things that it's funny 15 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 2: I haven't thrown a football forever, and the other day 16 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 2: I was I never realized that I have some sort 17 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:52,279 Speaker 2: of a like rotator cuff issue until I picked up 18 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 2: a football and was trying to throw it and was like, 19 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 2: what in the world I mean? I literally it was. 20 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 2: It was br absolute brutal. Kevin Bowen joins us. Now, 21 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 2: of course you hear him on the Fan Morning Show 22 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 2: with James Boyd and Jeff Rickord Kevin. If we went 23 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 2: out right now in the backyard and threw a football around, 24 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 2: how far do you think you could throw it? 25 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:13,200 Speaker 3: Thirty seven yards? 26 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: Okay, that's not bad. 27 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe it was down win forty one. 28 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 2: Okay, what about when you were like eighteen, also thirty 29 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 2: seven yards? Or do you think it's gone down? 30 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 3: No, seemingly has gone down. 31 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 4: In my mediocre athletic profile, it's a miracle. I haven't 32 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 4: shrunk yet. So yeah, I just wait, Yeah, I can't 33 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 4: imagine it would have been much more than that. 34 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, just wait, what what Like I said that had 35 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 2: a physical recently and they listed to me under six 36 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 2: four and I'm like, no, I've been six for my 37 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 2: whole life now not anymore. 38 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: So that process is pure. 39 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 5: Yeah. That makes me a little nervous because I'm six three. 40 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 5: I'm six feet on the driver's license, I'm six three 41 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 5: at the doctor. I mean it's legit. And you definitely 42 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 5: and then Shawn me, So if you're shrinking, then then 43 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 5: I feel. 44 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: Like you might be passing me. You may be in 45 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: the left lane on me. I don't know. 46 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 2: All right, let's get to this. They just open up. 47 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 2: Looks like the gates just open. Fans are arriving. First 48 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 2: three that I see are wearing green and yellow. Packers 49 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 2: are here three o'clock against the Colts for a joint 50 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 2: practice and then preseason game number two. So you talked 51 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 2: this morning Kevin from the green Bay side of things, 52 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 2: and I am curious if the advantage in this joint 53 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 2: practice with green Bay will be what because green Bay 54 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 2: can kind of bring what look that will challenge the 55 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 2: Colts and therefore this is going to be a good 56 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 2: workout for them. 57 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 5: Well, unfortunately, green Bay's really banged up, so you know 58 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 5: the Jordan loves. You know, they're pretty deep, but wide 59 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 5: out they might not have a stut or two, but 60 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 5: you know that is obviously going to be impacted today, 61 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 5: so that's a little bit of a bummer. I would, 62 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 5: I guess, go to their trenches, know O line and 63 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 5: D line. You know, I felt like in week two 64 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 5: when these teams met last year, the coaches got whipped 65 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 5: up front, so I'd probably go there. You know, Milik Willis, 66 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 5: he did enough in week two. It's not like you 67 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 5: lit you up, but you know he sounds like a 68 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 5: struggled in camp and threw a couple of picks. The 69 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 5: other day. So you know, Green Bay, you know, obviously 70 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 5: there's urgency here in Indianapolis kind of goes out saying 71 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 5: but like they got smoked in their preseason opener and 72 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 5: that was against the Jets and they played their starters. 73 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 5: So yeah, I'd probably say O line and D line 74 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 5: would would be where I would point to. You know, defensively, 75 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 5: they're also missing there's hot safety Zavier McKinney, so yeah, 76 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 5: I'd probably go there. And defensively as a whole, green 77 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 5: Bay did a great job, you know last year against 78 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 5: Anthony Richardson company in that week two matchups, so you know, 79 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 5: that's probably the side of the ball where you know, 80 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 5: they aren't as banged up as a little bit second 81 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:58,839 Speaker 5: the secondary, but not as banged up as they aren't 82 00:03:58,880 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 5: quarterback and White. 83 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 2: Now, Kevin, let me tell you the one thing that 84 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 2: and I want you to talk to me off this ledge. Okay, 85 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 2: I have to remind myself that this is still preseason 86 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 2: and that it is still training camp. But based on 87 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 2: the fact that now training camp is about to shift 88 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 2: away from Graham Park, you know, back to the Colts Complex, 89 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 2: then it feels like there should be a turn of 90 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 2: the corner in some areas, and I don't think I 91 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 2: think the Colts have a good roster. I really do. 92 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 2: I think I credit to Chris Ballard. There are areas 93 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 2: where I think they have some depth, and I think 94 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 2: they have some good pieces. I don't know how many 95 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 2: great pieces they have, but I'm worried now that there's 96 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 2: just enough body of work to see and say to yourself, 97 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 2: they're stuck in that vat of mediocrity, and I don't 98 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 2: know how you get out of that unless you're gonna draft. 99 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 2: You know, one through five. They're not that bad, but 100 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 2: they're not good enough at this point to still be 101 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 2: a legitimate deep playoff contender. And it feels like ten 102 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 2: and seven, nine in eight and nine is the inevitability 103 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 2: based on what we've seen to this point. Talk me 104 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 2: off that ledge. 105 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 5: Uh No, I don't think I really can. 106 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:11,919 Speaker 6: Uh Now, I. 107 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 5: Guess if you want me to spend in a positive 108 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 5: direction for you, You know those win totals you through 109 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 5: out there in the AFC South that can actually do something. 110 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 5: They might not win the division, but you know if 111 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 5: you beat the right teams that can get to the wildcard, 112 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 5: and my right teams, I mean, you have the tiebreaker, 113 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 5: and that's why I will continue to beat this drum 114 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 5: pretty pretty hard for the next. 115 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 3: Three or four weeks. 116 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 5: I just think Miami and Denver right out of the 117 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 5: gate are massive because those are the teams that I 118 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 5: think will be in your vicinity in that wildcard range 119 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 5: there and you know seven seven, I'd have to look 120 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 5: it up, but i'd say more often than not since 121 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 5: we've expanded to you know, seven playoff teams in each conference, 122 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 5: I would think that is enough to get you in. 123 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 5: Sometimes tiebreakers might need to be on your side, so 124 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 5: you know, that's the beauty I think of this division. Again, 125 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 5: it's not like, you know, Houston clinched it with three 126 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 5: weeks ago last season, and it's not like they were 127 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 5: It's not like they were the one seed and they 128 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 5: were running away with the entire conference, not like they 129 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 5: were the Cleveland Cavaliers this year in the NBA. They 130 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 5: just clinched it because the rest of the division was 131 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 5: so bad. So you know that's what again, honestly, just 132 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 5: it adds to the frustration. I said, it's earlier today. 133 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 5: You know, you haven't won the division in ten years, 134 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 5: and it's not like Mahomes for Allen or Lamar Jackson 135 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 5: or Manny or Brady or any of these quarterbacks have 136 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 5: been in the AFC South. You know, it's been a 137 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 5: very Obviously CJ. Stroud is looking like a nice player, 138 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 5: but before that, Ryan Tannehill was winning multiple division titles. 139 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 5: Rock Osweiler won a division titles. Lake Bortles I think 140 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 5: won a division title. I mean, you said some of 141 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 5: those names, and it makes you want to puke up 142 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 5: your your lunch. 143 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 2: Puke up did you say puke off your lunch or 144 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 2: puke up your lunch? 145 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 5: I hope I set up, but you know, I don't know. 146 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 5: I guess off from he offers. 147 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 3: The same sort of vivid imagery. 148 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 5: Cup was what I was going for. 149 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: There, fair enough. 150 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 2: No, there's no question about it. And you know I've 151 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 2: said before Kevin, the AFC South is the junk drawer 152 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 2: of divisions, right, I Mean it's the one that you 153 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 2: just kind of look at it and you're like, oh, yeah, 154 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:21,119 Speaker 2: I forgot that that they were around. And yet every 155 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 2: franchise has won the division twice since the last time 156 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 2: Indianapolis was able to say that they were division champions, 157 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 2: and that's troubling for certain. So the you know, there 158 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 2: is work to be done there. Again, I think there 159 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 2: are some shines to this roster though, so let's focus 160 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 2: on the positive for right now. At this point through camp, 161 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 2: the areas that you look at and you say, okay, 162 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 2: if I had to predict it, the twenty twenty five 163 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 2: Colts Highlight video is going to feature the strong play 164 00:07:53,480 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 2: at what position, you know, position of the ranks. 165 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 5: I don't know if there's like, I don't know if 166 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 5: there's one that I say, you know, say is easily 167 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 5: above the rest. But I think he's definitely want to 168 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 5: submit individuals, you know, certainly Jonathan Taylor. I think Tyler 169 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 5: Warren is gonna have a very active season, a very 170 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 5: involved season in a variety of ways. You know, DeForrest 171 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 5: Buckner has looked like his normal self. I think flat 172 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 5: three lotsers had moments against quality starting tackles and Branden 173 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 5: Smith mainly that you really really like that, you know, 174 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 5: he would be a guy that I'll be watching today. 175 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:36,319 Speaker 5: I again, does that translate when you're playing against different 176 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 5: competition there and Gruden Bay's got some pretty good tackles, So. 177 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:42,719 Speaker 7: Yeah, I probably point there, you know, certainly in the secondary, 178 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 7: assuming health is there. 179 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 5: I think all the veterans Campbell or at Camp Wore 180 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 5: Taveri's Ward cam buying them and Kenny Moore I had 181 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 5: point to all three of those guys is definitely having 182 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 5: some strong moments, uh within camp you know, white out wise, 183 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 5: I think it's the group. It's probably more of by number, 184 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 5: you know, strength and numbers than it is maybe overall 185 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 5: atop the atop the depth sharp. But yeah, those are 186 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 5: those are something that stand out to me. 187 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 2: The you know, Tyler Warren clearly has made plays Kevin 188 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 2: and immediately you can see, Okay, there's a reason that 189 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 2: he not only was drafted by the Colts where he was, 190 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 2: but why Penn State was able to use him in 191 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 2: so many different areas. Have the Colts given glimpse at 192 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 2: all as to what ways they could use Tyler Warren? 193 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 2: Or they are they for right now strictly getting him 194 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 2: acclimated as an over the middle you know, tight end 195 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 2: receiving tight end and that's it. Or are they gonna 196 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 2: shift him around to different areas offensively? 197 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 5: Oh no, they're going to shift them around, and they'd 198 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 5: be foolish not to. I think they were part of 199 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 5: the massive intrigue they had with Warren was what Penn 200 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 5: State did with him. And you know, I think back 201 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 5: to me as a psycho Notre Dame fan in the 202 00:09:56,200 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 5: Orange Bowl. Honestly, my thrill level when I notice Penn 203 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 5: State wasn't giving Tyler Warren the ball on an individual play, 204 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 5: and again it didn't matter how it was, so it 205 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:09,719 Speaker 5: could be as a Wildcat quarterback. And I think you've 206 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 5: already seen if you go back to Thursday night. Thursday 207 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 5: Night in that preseason opener, he had three catches, I 208 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 5: guess a fourth that was called back. All four were 209 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 5: different ways, and I thought to myself after the game, Wow, 210 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 5: you know he had four catches and four targets, and 211 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 5: I can already think off the top of my head 212 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 5: at Grand Park three or four other different routes, different 213 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 5: ways They've got him the ball that we didn't even 214 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 5: see against Baltimore. So yeah, I think he's a very 215 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:40,959 Speaker 5: intriguing chess chess piece and I think change Sichen will 216 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 5: be very open to utilizing that. You know pretty quickly. 217 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:46,719 Speaker 2: What Kevin Bowen is our guest. Do you hear in 218 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 2: the mornings, of course on the Fan Morning Show with 219 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 2: Jeff Rickard and James Boyd Colt's getting set three o'clock 220 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 2: today joint practice with the Green Bay Packers. Kevin will 221 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 2: have all of the coverage on that, of course at 222 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 2: one of seventy five the fan dot Com as well 223 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:03,079 Speaker 2: as tomorrow morning. Kevin from an injury and health standpoint, 224 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 2: any progression or anything that we're looking for of those 225 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 2: coming back, and specifically I'm talking about at cornerback, notably 226 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 2: because that's the area where it looks like Indies the most. 227 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: Dang. 228 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't get like great vibes that you know, 229 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 5: all of a sudden we'll see anymore. Jalen Jones and 230 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 5: Juju Brent's out there today for example. You know, Shanezak 231 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 5: hasn't offered up any timeline to timetables, but you know 232 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 5: those would certainly be a top the list. Nick Cross 233 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 5: has missed about a week. I think he got hurt 234 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:35,559 Speaker 5: the joint practice last week was Baltimore with a groin injury. 235 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 5: He has been out there but not participated. Hunter Wooler 236 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 5: has gotten those reps quity pay has in this similar timeframe. 237 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 5: He actually played the preseason game just for a series 238 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 5: with a hip injury, and Alex Pierce he got hurt 239 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,199 Speaker 5: I think it was either Saturday or Sunday's practice with 240 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 5: a groin injury. We haven't seen him so offensively, I mean, 241 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 5: they are about as healthy as you could ask for 242 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 5: minus peers. I mean, they're what I'm missing somebody. I 243 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 5: think they got kind of their eleven starters healthy and 244 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 5: really that's been the case for the bulk of camp 245 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:09,199 Speaker 5: defensively has than where they're more in the banged up category. 246 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 3: Jalen Carli's you know, the guy. 247 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 5: That I think many thought would be the starting linebacker 248 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 5: next Asire Franklin in week one. He has I think 249 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 5: lost the grip on that starting job, and he also 250 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 5: has missed the last week with an ankle injury, so 251 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 5: I would throw him into that vote as well. 252 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:26,839 Speaker 2: It almost feels like, to be honest with you, that 253 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 2: you know, Carlai's is one that the we in terms 254 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 2: of the media are those that cover the Colts talked 255 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 2: a lot about Jayleen Carlis going into the year, and 256 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,719 Speaker 2: a lot of that is because Kevin. They talked a 257 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 2: lot about him in particularly a year ago. My correct 258 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 2: in saying that that is a player that Chris Ballard 259 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 2: as much as any If you had to make like 260 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 2: a pie chart or you know, a spreadsheet on the 261 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 2: number of times that a player was talked up versus 262 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 2: the number of times that they showed flashes on the field. 263 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 2: Carlais and I'm not saying he's a bad player, but 264 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 2: they have been outwardly very high on him for the 265 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 2: last couple of years, have they not. 266 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, so they drafted him fits round pick out on Missouri. 267 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:11,439 Speaker 5: He was a college safety and they saw turn him 268 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 5: in the linebacker, and yeah, I would say they have 269 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 5: been definitely high on him. I think it's part of 270 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 5: the reason why they were so content and letting ej. 271 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:24,199 Speaker 5: Speed walk in free agency, and really they did nothing else. 272 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 5: You know, they didn't draft the linebacker and then they 273 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 5: you know, outside of Joe Bachi, who has primarily been 274 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:34,439 Speaker 5: a special teamer in his career, definitely lately, they haven't 275 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 5: really done anything a linebacker throughout the off season. So yeah, 276 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 5: I think that's fair. But Jake, I think we also 277 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 5: have to remind ourselves you almost need to start labeling 278 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 5: people as and this goes through any business. You label 279 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 5: people for who made the higher and now who's making 280 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 5: the highers and the fires. And Gus Bradley was part 281 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 5: of that regime. You know, Richard Smith, the linebackers coach, 282 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 5: who you know, kind of carved out what it looked 283 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 5: like for Carlive. He is no longer here, so it's 284 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 5: different position, coach, different coordinator. It's the same GM, but defensively, 285 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 5: you know, there will be guys that will probably have 286 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,319 Speaker 5: to label at some point are they Bradley guys or 287 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 5: are they Anarrumo guys? And the Bradley guys are gonna 288 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 5: have to prove themselves, you know, to a new defensive coordinator. 289 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 2: You know, one of the things Kevin, Kevin Bow and 290 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 2: our guest you and I talked about this when we 291 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 2: were together in the mornings, and I'm maybe I'm too 292 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 2: critical here, but it seemed to me like there was 293 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 2: a time, you know, three or four years ago where 294 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 2: Chris Ballard was building the Colts in a way. I'm 295 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 2: not going to say that was antiquated, but there was 296 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 2: a more old school roster approach or scheme approach than 297 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 2: what the rest of the league was doing. And that 298 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 2: now they've kind of come back a little bit. In 299 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 2: other words, the you know, the three yards and a 300 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 2: cloud of dust. They were never there per se, but 301 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 2: just in terms of wide open space guys. It felt 302 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 2: like they were slow to that party. Have they have 303 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 2: they gone directly in a way to kind of get 304 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 2: back more to the way the rest of the league plays, 305 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 2: If that makes sense. 306 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think there's some truth to that. I mean, 307 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 5: he's always been enamored with athletic traits, but I think 308 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 5: positional value is not something he would agree with. And 309 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 5: maybe over time he started to realize that he you know, 310 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 5: needs to be agreeing with that. But you know, just 311 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 5: think back. You know, his first ever pick was a safety. 312 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 5: If you want to go back all the way to 313 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 5: the league cooker, you know, you draft to guard six overall, 314 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 5: you draft the linebacker round so you draft the guard 315 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 5: and round another guard in round two. You know, I 316 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 5: guess I'd have to go back draft by draft. You know, 317 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 5: Bobby Okarek obviously was taking you know, fine players, but again, 318 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 5: value matters. And now I think you've seen you know, 319 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 5: the Richardson draft, for example, the quarterback, cornerback, and wide out. 320 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 3: I believe with the first three selections. So you know, 321 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 3: I think that is one that you know, kind of plays. 322 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 5: Into it of you know, you finally have seen a 323 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 5: little bit more of like, yeah, there are some positions 324 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 5: that that do carry more late than others in this league, 325 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 5: and there's others that he would rank high and he's 326 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 5: just flat out missed. 327 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: You know. 328 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 7: Defensive end in corner would probably be the two that 329 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 7: come to mind the most of you know, when he 330 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 7: has drafted those, you know, selections high, they just largely 331 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 7: haven't worked out. So it's probably a little bit of both, 332 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 7: I guess kind of summarize at all. Yes, I think 333 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 7: positional value has not been one that he holds in 334 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 7: that has high regard as others. 335 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 5: Maybe he's come around a little bit on that, but 336 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 5: even in the years when he didn't necessarily hold positions 337 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 5: in super high regard, when he has taken those you 338 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 5: know high in drafts, not a lot of them have 339 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 5: been hits. 340 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:05,120 Speaker 1: Kevin. 341 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 2: This is a big week or week and a half 342 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 2: for what, let's say, two or three players that maybe 343 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 2: did not think they would be in this position, but 344 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 2: either because they are trying to cement what has been 345 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 2: a very good camp for them that has put them 346 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:23,439 Speaker 2: in a spot you didn't anticipate, or because they have 347 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 2: yet to really flip a switch and the time is now. 348 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,479 Speaker 5: Well, I mean outside a quarterback and on the heathers, 349 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 5: really taking it, taking it. I think it's probably been 350 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 5: a quiet camp for Michael Pittman Jr. He thought, maybe 351 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 5: that's not where you're going with the question. But you know, 352 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 5: come back from the back injuries that you know, probably 353 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 5: a few too many drops and I don't know, it 354 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 5: just hasn't had as normal of a camp as I 355 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 5: would go to. You know. Unfortunately, I think Danny Pincher 356 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:53,919 Speaker 5: was hurt a little bit by injury, but that center 357 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 5: battle never really feel like got to be you know, real, 358 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 5: real defensively. Maybe a little bit more from Quinny pay 359 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 5: I think he had a moment or two early in camp, 360 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 5: and again, I know the injuries takes him off the 361 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 5: field for the last few days, but you'd like to 362 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 5: see more. I definitely throw in car Lies, who we 363 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 5: talked about earlier. 364 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 3: Uh. 365 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 5: You know, a lot of people I think internally would 366 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 5: have written him, written him in as a starter before 367 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 5: the beginning of camp, and now he's not that and 368 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:27,640 Speaker 5: so he would probably be in that mix as well. 369 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 5: So yeah, those are probably the ones that kind of 370 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 5: stand out to me. 371 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 2: The the offensive line, I would think, also, this is 372 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 2: going to be a good opportunity for them because Green Bay, 373 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 2: you know, any pointed this out. I think it's a 374 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 2: good point green Bay does have. Even though they have 375 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 2: been dinged up, they do present some fairly aggressive looks 376 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 2: and some fairly active movement on the defensive line that 377 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 2: I think is going to be a challenge for that 378 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:58,919 Speaker 2: offensive line. And I like the group that they have, Kevin, 379 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 2: but would you agree this is going to be a 380 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 2: decent test for them, Yeah, definitely. 381 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 5: Again, I kind of go back to that Week two 382 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 5: matchup where I thought they really kind of won the 383 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 5: line of scrimmage and were able to, you know, control 384 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 5: the game from that aspect to it. I mean, Josh 385 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 5: Jacobs ran all over you, and I thought they did 386 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 5: a nice shot. 387 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 3: Against you on the other side of the ball. 388 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 5: Jeff Hafley was their defensive coordinator, came over from Boston 389 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:26,439 Speaker 5: College last year. So yeah, I think that's a fair statement. 390 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 5: I think anytime you get into these like trench practices. 391 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 5: You know, I brought up a lot too earlier. You know, 392 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 5: how much of him winning right now is he's found 393 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 5: a little bit of checking the armor of Braydon Smith 394 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 5: and he just keeps on going back to that, you know. 395 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 5: I think it's just important when you see the same 396 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,640 Speaker 5: guy every single day, particularly in the matchups that can 397 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 5: be one on one, you know how much of it 398 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 5: is again just wow. I simply know when this guy's 399 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 5: we can boom, I can attack him there. 400 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 3: So yeah, I think those. 401 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 5: Are and really today today, because again Green Bays will 402 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 5: not play the Shards coming up on Saturday. 403 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 1: Kevin. 404 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 2: Obviously three o'clock, everything gets underway here between the Colts 405 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 2: and the Packers. The gates are already open, fans have arrived. 406 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 2: What time does the Kevin Bowen photo and autograph session begin? 407 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 5: Well, and fortunately I don't think that's ever taken place. 408 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 5: The only thing I do up there is took up 409 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 5: animal poop, which you've seen, you know first hand. 410 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:26,439 Speaker 2: Did we determine what animal that was? Was that you 411 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 2: thought it was grass clippings? And we determined I believe 412 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 2: we thought it was coyote dung right. 413 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:34,120 Speaker 5: Well, honestly, and I don't think this type of dung 414 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 5: would look like the shape of the animal that we're 415 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 5: going to describe. But that damn rooster is so loud, 416 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 5: it's got to have something inside its body that it's 417 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 5: got to get rid of So. 418 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 3: Maybe it was the old rooster there that was crowing. 419 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:50,120 Speaker 3: So yes, I will. I will probably be. 420 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 5: Arriving closer to three quol is an NFL referee meeting 421 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 5: at two o'clock the new rules for this year. Then 422 00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 5: I'll be attending at a local hotel where we work 423 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 5: out them before that. 424 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 1: What you're an NFL referee and you need to be 425 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,160 Speaker 1: in this meeting. Is that what this is? Or they 426 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 1: just are allowing you the privy to see what the 427 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: new rules are. 428 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. 429 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,919 Speaker 5: Yeah, each year they go to you know, obviously the 430 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,919 Speaker 5: training camps. I believe there'll be NFL res at training 431 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:19,360 Speaker 5: camp today. Sometimes they're collegiate rests, so they're making their 432 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,479 Speaker 5: stop and I think it's a nice thing they do. 433 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 5: They you know, sometimes show whatever five ten minute video 434 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,640 Speaker 5: of these are the emphasis on rules this year, et cetera, 435 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 5: et cetera. So it's not the most entertaining thing, but 436 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 5: you know, when one of those plays shows up in 437 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 5: a colts game this year, at least you have a 438 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 5: little bit of education. 439 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 2: All right, Very well, well, we look forward to it. 440 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 2: Enjoy the meeting, and then I'm assuming that you will 441 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 2: if there are any like major things that even though 442 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 2: I realize they're just explaining these rules, but that's one 443 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 2: of the things you. 444 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: Can put up on the website. 445 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 2: I know you'll have coverage as well and what happens 446 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:50,919 Speaker 2: between the Colts and the Packers not only at one 447 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 2: oh seven five the fan dot Com, but then tomorrow 448 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,679 Speaker 2: you'll be discussing it with Jeff and James as well. 449 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 2: Appreciate it, Kevin, Yeah, thank you, Jack all right, Kevin 450 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 2: Bowen us. 451 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:03,400 Speaker 1: Matt Taylor is the voice of the Colts. 452 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 2: We're at Grand Park up in Westfield, and I don't 453 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 2: know how long people had lost this there, but you 454 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 2: had joked off the top that you've talked so much 455 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 2: about this football team. So let's begin by talking about 456 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,680 Speaker 2: the Green Bay Packers. And I know you haven't gotten 457 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 2: probably a lot of chance to get into them yet, 458 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 2: but when you do look at it, one of the things, 459 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 2: if you're Shane Steichen, that you're pleased about in having 460 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 2: the Packers be the team that the Colts have to 461 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,439 Speaker 2: scrimmage and then play in a preseason game, YEP, is 462 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,679 Speaker 2: the fact that they will give a look that is 463 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 2: good for Indianapolis in what way? 464 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:34,959 Speaker 8: Well, they were really good last year they were eleven 465 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 8: and five, and they were the only team in the 466 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:40,199 Speaker 8: NFL to be top five on offense and defense. And 467 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,120 Speaker 8: they played in a really incredible division. You know, three 468 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 8: teams in the NFC North that all made the playoffs. 469 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 8: Of course, you had the Lions and Vikings that went 470 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 8: down to the the last game of the season. I 471 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 8: think it was. Both teams won fourteen games. But they're 472 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 8: really banged up, just like the Colts in some key 473 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 8: areas wide receiver wise. I don't know about Romeo Dobb 474 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 8: playing today. I don't know about Jayden Reid playing today. 475 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 8: Dontavian Wicks is on ir excuse me, Christian Watson is 476 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 8: on pup. 477 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:09,719 Speaker 6: Dontavian Wicks is banged up. 478 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 8: They had to sign a wide receiver yesterday, but they 479 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 8: still have you know, from a philosophy standpoint, just an 480 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 8: old school mentality. 481 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 6: You know, Matt Leafleour is a great coach. 482 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,439 Speaker 8: You go back to Week two last year when these 483 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 8: two teams played in the regular season. 484 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:26,120 Speaker 6: They didn't have Jordan Love. 485 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,400 Speaker 8: Everybody knew the Colts were going to see a heavy 486 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 8: dose of the run game with Josh Jacobs, and they killed. 487 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 8: They still couldn't stop it. Jacobs ran for one hundred 488 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 8: and fifty one yards. As a team, they ran for 489 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 8: over two hundred yards in the first half alone. They 490 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 8: had fifty three rushing attempts for the game. 491 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 2: Matt Jacobs is a I mean, he's great back right. 492 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 2: That said was there's something also in the trenches that 493 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 2: Green Bay was able to whether it be the scheme 494 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 2: that they did with their offensive line or just the 495 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 2: size of their line that hampered the Colts. That is 496 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 2: an area that you feel like the Colts have improved 497 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 2: upon or is it still a question mark? 498 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 8: Well, if you go back, I mean the week two 499 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,439 Speaker 8: games specifically, they did a lot of misdirection stuff they did. 500 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 8: They got on the edges very effectively, especially in the 501 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 8: first half. They did some misdirection. It's a good point 502 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 8: about the offensive line. I don't mean if I had 503 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 8: the answer, you know, the Colts would have been able 504 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 8: to figure that out sooner in the game than they did. 505 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 6: But that's the reality of what happened. 506 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 8: Jacobs and the you know, their other running backs, Emmanuel Wilson, 507 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:28,919 Speaker 8: they did a nice job of getting on the edges 508 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 8: and getting outside the numbers very easily. 509 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:33,120 Speaker 6: In the first half of that game. 510 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,880 Speaker 8: But the offensive line is very good that I think 511 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 8: you know, that unit for the Packers coming into this 512 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 8: joint practice, I think is pretty well intact as far 513 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 8: as injuries are concerned. Defensively, they're banged up too. I 514 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 8: mean Nate Hobbs, their corners banged up, Xavier mckenney's banged up. 515 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 8: Kway Walker, they're starting linebacker. May not play today, may 516 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,439 Speaker 8: not play on Saturday. But I still think there's a 517 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 8: whole lot of value in some lessons you can get 518 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 8: out of this joint practice. Loui an Arumo the other 519 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 8: day talked to We're not going to game plan for 520 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 8: the Packers. We're not going to put anything exotic in. 521 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 8: We just want to see, especially in the secondary now 522 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 8: that that's banged up, guys like Jonathan Edwards and Alex 523 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 8: Johnson just want to see him play right. You're here 524 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 8: in camp. You're invited to this camp for a reason. 525 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 8: Flash your traits. Play football right. If you're a defensive lineman, 526 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 8: get off blocks, set edges, maintain leverage. If you're a 527 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 8: guy in the back end, you know you have to 528 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:29,400 Speaker 8: play with good coverage, instincts and principles. 529 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 6: Stick to your fundamentals. There. 530 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,120 Speaker 8: So I still think there's there's some good value that 531 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 8: the guys on the back end of the roster and 532 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 8: guys that are going to play because of injuries can 533 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 8: get out of the next couple of days. 534 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:40,679 Speaker 1: You know, we talked about this. 535 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 2: Matt Taylor's the voice of the Colts joining us here 536 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 2: Colts Packers three o'clock practice today at Grand Park. I 537 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 2: talked about this last week and I want your thought 538 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 2: on it. It's a two part question, and part one 539 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,120 Speaker 2: would be this. If you look at the corner position 540 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,640 Speaker 2: and you just mentioned, you know, Jonathan Edwards, you know Johnson, 541 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 2: Guys that maybe weren't even household names and this circle 542 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 2: two months ago that now are right there in the mix. 543 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,160 Speaker 2: And a lot of that is because of attrition, okay, 544 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 2: and the fact that there has been injury. If they 545 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 2: were to they if one of those guys makes the 546 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 2: roster because of the fact that others are dinged up, 547 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 2: does that potentially take a spot that from somebody elsewhere? 548 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 2: In other words, did they become the bid stealer on 549 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 2: selection Sunday? 550 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 8: Well, I think it depends on the injuries to guys 551 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 8: that are at that position, that those guys would make 552 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 8: the team over initially, right. 553 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 2: I mean, well, that's what I'm saying. If a Jalen Jones, 554 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,159 Speaker 2: let's say Jalen Jones Juju Brentz. 555 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,719 Speaker 8: I mean, if Jalen Jones starts on pup, that changes 556 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,360 Speaker 8: everything versus starting the season active. 557 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 6: But he's still thinks a. 558 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:45,920 Speaker 1: Few weeks or something. Yeah, you know what I mean. 559 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,399 Speaker 8: So yeah, I think you and I talked about this 560 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 8: about a month ago or so going into training camp. 561 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 8: The bid stealing position on the team that could, in 562 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 8: my opinion, be affected the most is tied end. 563 00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:58,679 Speaker 1: That's why I was going to ask us. 564 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 2: The second half of that would be where that comes 565 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,439 Speaker 2: at the cost of who. 566 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 8: Because I think, I mean, Mowley Cox and Tyler Warren 567 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:11,439 Speaker 8: are securely on this team. I think Drew Ogletree Actually, 568 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 8: I think Will Mallory is probably more secure on this 569 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 8: team than Drew Ogletree is, because you do have a 570 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 8: blocking tight end in Mowiley Cox and I think Mallory 571 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 8: to a degree it's splitting hairs. But if you ask me, 572 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 8: in my opinion, he's probably outplayed ogle Tree a little bit, 573 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 8: at least in the past catches. 574 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 1: It's the more hybrid tight end between ogle Tree. 575 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,120 Speaker 6: And Mally probably Mallory. Yeah, like that's what I mean. 576 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 8: Like I think Mowley, Cox and Ogletree's skill set, when 577 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 8: you boil it down, maybe is a little bit redundant. 578 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 8: But I still think you would like to keep four 579 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 8: tight ends ideally. But if you have to go heavy 580 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 8: at corner because of injuries, maybe a guy misses a 581 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,360 Speaker 8: week or two with with Jones or Juju Brints, then 582 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 8: I think that might be the one position that you 583 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:54,959 Speaker 8: might look at and say we can get by with 584 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,399 Speaker 8: three tight ends initially at the beginning of the season. 585 00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 8: Or hell, maybe you even say we get by with 586 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:03,160 Speaker 8: no offensive lineman or nine defensive linemen instead of ten 587 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:04,400 Speaker 8: in the trenches. 588 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 6: So I don't know. 589 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 8: It's a really good question, and I think only two 590 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 8: guys have the answer. 591 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:12,879 Speaker 2: To that, right, Chris Mallard, here's a really dumb question, Matt. 592 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:17,640 Speaker 2: In your time doing this, do you see players that 593 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 2: I know that maybe a tiebreaker situation goes to the 594 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 2: guy that is the better special teams player, if that 595 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 2: makes sense. But how many players on a roster do 596 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 2: you think are ever kept specifically with special teams in mind, 597 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 2: Like we're keeping that guy four special teams and special 598 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 2: teams only, versus if there's a guy that's a darn good, 599 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 2: really good special teams performer, but that's kind of all 600 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 2: they do. Does he make the roster over a guy 601 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 2: that is a fringe at his position but can play 602 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 2: special teams as well. 603 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 6: It's a good question. 604 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 8: I mean for the Colts, they don't have Historically, they 605 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 8: haven't had too many Matthew Slaters, right, you know what 606 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 8: I mean, Like technically he's a wide receiver, but I 607 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 8: mean he played it over a decade in New England 608 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 8: and caught like less than five penns, you. 609 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: Know what I mean. 610 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 8: You know, Grant Steward or Grant Stewart's a good one, 611 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 8: you know, but even then, I mean Grant Stewart had 612 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 8: to play linebacker. 613 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 1: He had to go back to like Clifton Crosby was 614 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 1: on the road. 615 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, I mean, I mean even Grant Stewart 616 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 8: last year had a game where you had like eighteen 617 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 8: or nineteen tackles, you know, and they trusted him to 618 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 8: play linebacker in a pinch, which he did. You know, 619 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 8: maybe like Jamie Silva, remember that name, the long hair 620 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 8: for the Colt he was the start too, didn't he did? Yeah, 621 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,479 Speaker 8: I mean Ashton Dolan is he gives you tremendous special 622 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 8: teams value, but he's also doing a wide receiver. 623 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 1: Ice piece for yeah, receiver, right. 624 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 8: You know, if Duland's your fifth or sixth wide receiver, 625 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 8: you could be doing way worse. 626 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 6: You know, you're right, So that's a good question. 627 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 8: Not not many guys, you know, you would pigeonhole just say, hey, 628 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 8: you're gonna play twenty five snaps to day and they're 629 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 8: all going to be on special teams? 630 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 1: Could you just never know? Do you ever call before 631 00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 1: you call a game? 632 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 2: Do you ever actually called your counterpart or or your contemporary, 633 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 2: your colleague for the other franchise, like the green you know, 634 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 2: the Green Bay play by play. 635 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 6: Guy Wayne Larvie, So yeah, Wayne legend right now, right? 636 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 2: So do you ever do you ever match wits with 637 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 2: those guys the week leading up to a game? Like, Hey, 638 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 2: what what sort of things should I be looking for? 639 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 1: That? Yeah? You know what I mean. 640 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 8: Yeah, it's it's a it's a pretty standard routine. At 641 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 8: the very least, go in the other team's booth. You know, 642 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 8: they either they seek me out or I seeked him out. 643 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 8: Whichever one happens first. But we'll we'll go in there 644 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 8: and just kind of catch up to talk shop. No, no, 645 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 8: I really haven't. I really haven't. I mean time anybody me, 646 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 8: come on, there's nobody for me to big time brother, 647 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 8: I mean even oh shoot, I'm forgetting his name right now, Legendary, Gosh, 648 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 8: why why can't I think of his name? Jake, Raiders, 649 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 8: Britt Mussburger. Even he was great. He did the Raiders 650 00:30:58,080 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 8: a couple of years, like he did the Raiders. 651 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 6: Yeah he did. Yeah, I did a couple of years. 652 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 6: He's not anymore, but even he was great. 653 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 2: So yeah, he's got great anymuror he's not doing the Raiders, 654 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 2: he's not doing the Raiders anymore, but he's still great. 655 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 6: He's still great. 656 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 1: Legendary. 657 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 8: Yeah, so I mean, you you know, you knock on 658 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 8: his door and spend five ten minutes just going through 659 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,959 Speaker 8: the depth chart and say, hey, this guy's heard or right, 660 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 8: that's me not play. 661 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 1: Hey, you know, look out they might be trying hundred 662 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 1: percent or. 663 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 8: In practice they put this package in. You know, I 664 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 8: don't know what they're going to do out of it, 665 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 8: but you know, you don't give away secrets or anything 666 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 8: like that. But you know, if they have any questions 667 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 8: about pronunciations or playing time, that's that's what it's there for. 668 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 8: And you know, you just kind of catch up on 669 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 8: life and you know, talk about the stadium or talk about, 670 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 8: you know, something weird that happened in a game two 671 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 8: weeks ago. 672 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 6: That's it's like a little fraternity. 673 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 2: Speaking by the way of you know, pronunciations and things 674 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 2: like that. I'm hoping that this guy makes the roster 675 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 2: just because I like doing my voice, impersonating the character 676 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 2: that I think he is. 677 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 6: Are you doing Ulysses? 678 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 1: Yeah? 679 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 9: Correct, Yes, Ulyssa is parently the fours. He's got a 680 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 9: polo tea time for nine. Is he gonna make the roster? 681 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,719 Speaker 9: Please tell me yes, He's got a chance to make 682 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 9: the practice squad. 683 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 1: I know. I mean he's played well, right. 684 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 8: I mean, he was a leading rusher last week in Baltimore, 685 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 8: and every time he's out here and practice at Grand Park, 686 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 8: I mean he rushes his tail off. 687 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 1: And now hard it is to rush in wing tip shoes. 688 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 6: You would know, very very difficult. 689 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 2: I mean the three piece suit that he's got on 690 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 2: the whole deal, right, the ascot. 691 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 8: But I think I think Giddings and Tyler Goodson. 692 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 1: They've got some depth. 693 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 6: I think they've got some depth. 694 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 8: I mean, get into the draft pick and then Goodson's 695 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 8: been with this team now for four years. 696 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 2: And Goodson's one that I like in Tyler Goodson at 697 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 2: the running back position, kind of to what you were 698 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 2: talking about, and you correct me if I'm way off 699 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 2: base here. 700 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 1: I'll trust your opinion over the mind on this. 701 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 2: But he strikes me as kind of a running back 702 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 2: version of a Will Mallory. And by that, I mean 703 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 2: that Goodson is a guy that can kind of you 704 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 2: can put in different responsibilities if need be. 705 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 1: Yep, and he can fill the cup. 706 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 2: Maybe not give you a ten at any you know, 707 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 2: blocking or running or receiving, but he's a solid like six. 708 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 8: Yeah, well he's he's a really good change of pace back. 709 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 8: He's probably the best pass catching back the Colts have. 710 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 8: You haven't really seen Getting's do enough of that at 711 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 8: this level. You know, it's kind of an incomplete there 712 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 8: not that he can't do it, but I mean that's 713 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 8: why I mean, I think I don't know if people 714 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 8: want to hear this or not, but you can let 715 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 8: fourth down, we can win your in game against the Texans. 716 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 6: That's why Goodson was in the game. 717 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 8: He's a good pass catching back, right, He's probably again 718 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 8: this is just my opinion, he's probably a better pass 719 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 8: catching back than Jonathan Taylor. Everybody's freaking out, like why 720 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 8: is Taylor not in the game that moment? 721 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 6: And I get it. I totally understand it. But for 722 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 6: that play, I. 723 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 8: Think, but the Colts had Tyler Goodson has a better option. 724 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 2: I guess the one thing that hurts you and I 725 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 2: get it. But the problem with and this isn't why 726 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 2: that play was not converted, but the challenge that you 727 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 2: get is when you put a Tyler Goodson in that situation, Matt, 728 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 2: it's pretty obvious to anybody that scouted them that if 729 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 2: he's on the field, it's for one reason and one 730 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 2: reason only, and therefore it's pretty east he just scot 731 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 2: out what they're going to. 732 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 8: Do, right, Yeah, I mean it was an RPO play 733 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 8: And we can go back and forth on this, you know, 734 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 8: Mike Chaplin and I have debated this now for two 735 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 8: straight years every time we see each other, like is 736 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 8: it a drop or a bad throw? And if you 737 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 8: go back and watch that play, Jonathan Garnard, a defensive 738 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 8: end for the Texans, gets in the passing lane of 739 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 8: Gardner Minshew and he has to throw it kind of 740 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 8: side arm right. So to me, it's it's both like, 741 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 8: could the throw have been better? Yeah, if you ask 742 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 8: Tyler Goodson, should he have caught it? 743 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 6: Yeah? 744 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,839 Speaker 8: And he's owned it and has been incredibly professional about it. 745 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,359 Speaker 8: It's just it sucks for him that that one play 746 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 8: is what the you know, the play that everyone's going 747 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,319 Speaker 8: to remember as far as not making the playoffs and 748 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 8: not win the division and all that stuff because it 749 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 8: was the last play of the game. But yeah, I 750 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 8: still think he gives I mean, he's an explosive runner. Now, 751 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 8: Tyler Goodson is an explosive runner. He's probably not going 752 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 8: to see more than you know, five to seven carries 753 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 8: a game, if that, but he does give you good 754 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 8: depth behind Jonathan Taylor, who doesn't have to hopefully within 755 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,440 Speaker 8: this all offense with a better consistent quarterback, doesn't have 756 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 8: to carry the ball twenty one times per game, which 757 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 8: he did last year and that was the highest workload 758 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 8: in the NFL. 759 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 2: Matt Taylor is the voice of the Colts, joining us 760 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,320 Speaker 2: here at Grant Park in Westfield Colts camp getting underway, 761 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 2: resuming if you will, when it comes to practice this 762 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 2: time with the Green Bay Packers here with them that 763 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,879 Speaker 2: is preseason game number two as well. Center position, would 764 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 2: you say that that has kind of settled itself out? 765 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 8: It's trending towards Tanner Bordolini because of his you know, 766 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:32,359 Speaker 8: his availability, and that's a harsh reality, but you know, 767 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 8: in this league you want to put your best five 768 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,760 Speaker 8: guys out there going into the regular season. And Mordalini's 769 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,720 Speaker 8: been healthier than Danny Pinter and plus you know they 770 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:44,840 Speaker 8: drafted him where they did last year for a reason 771 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,400 Speaker 8: to give him a legitimate shot at this and so 772 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 8: he's played well. And he talked the other day about 773 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,239 Speaker 8: how there's so much more on a center's played in 774 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 8: the NFL compared to college football, not saying college football 775 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 8: is easy or simple, but up here it's just a 776 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 8: completely different animal. A lot is on your shoulders pre snap, 777 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 8: identifying things, shifting protection one way or the other. So 778 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,359 Speaker 8: I think born Alini has a really good handle on 779 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 8: that now, certainly more so now than he did at 780 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 8: this point last year as a rookie. So yeah, it's 781 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:15,920 Speaker 8: trending where I would not be shocked at all if 782 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 8: he's your starting center. 783 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 2: Do you think it's difficult to have Matt if you 784 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 2: were to have and this is not the case with 785 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 2: the Colts, okay, but if you were to have a 786 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:31,319 Speaker 2: very clear, alpha veteran quarterback. Okay, So I mean, you know, 787 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, whatever you want to say right 788 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 2: in that situation. Do you think that is then harder 789 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 2: for a younger center because at the center position, you're 790 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 2: kind of serving as it's like catcher where you're overseeing 791 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 2: things in your you know, how many times you see 792 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 2: Jeff Saturday looking over his shoulder or whatever it may be. Yeah, 793 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,880 Speaker 2: and to gain the respect and trust of that quarterback 794 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 2: to follow through or piggyback off of what the center 795 00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 2: is saying. Do you think that's difficult for a young 796 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,440 Speaker 2: center if they have a domineering quarterback. 797 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 6: I don't know, that's a good question. Probably. 798 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 8: I mean, there's there's there's probably a level of you know, 799 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,359 Speaker 8: like let's say there's four weeks of training camp, there's 800 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 8: probably a week and a half of feeling out like 801 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,880 Speaker 8: how much do I trust this guy initially. 802 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,279 Speaker 2: Or vice versa. Yeah, how comfortable. Am I telling this 803 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 2: guy what to do? 804 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 1: Yeah? 805 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,920 Speaker 6: Exactly. Hey here, you know, hey, Mahomes, we should break it. Seriously. 806 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 8: I've played in four Super Bowls already, you know what 807 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,319 Speaker 8: I mean. Take it easy, pal, So I think you 808 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 8: have to. It's like you with Casey Vale, right, Oh no. 809 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,319 Speaker 6: No, Casey, Casey runs the show. 810 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 1: Bro. 811 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 6: Let's let's not get it twisted. 812 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,399 Speaker 8: Okay, I'm there to just write shotguns. 813 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,600 Speaker 6: He's the producer. But yeah, so yeah, I think it's 814 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 6: probably fair. 815 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,239 Speaker 8: You know, there's probably some feeling out of of how 816 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 8: much does this guy really know? 817 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:47,719 Speaker 6: How much do I trust him? 818 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:49,719 Speaker 8: How much can I sort of take his word for 819 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 8: it if we have to change in audible the protection 820 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,200 Speaker 8: quickly on the fly at the line of scrimmage. 821 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:55,440 Speaker 6: So, but I think he's there. 822 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 8: I mean, Daniel Jones has been in the NFL now 823 00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,439 Speaker 8: for six years, right, so he's a veteran and playing. 824 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,960 Speaker 8: He's got seventy starts under his belt, right, so he 825 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 8: doesn't have the you know, the postseason success. 826 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 2: But the quarterback competition between Richardson and Jones, and I 827 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 2: personally think that's kind of settled itself out because I 828 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:17,800 Speaker 2: don't think Daniel Jones has done anything to snatch it away, 829 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:19,920 Speaker 2: and in that case you go to the incumbent. But 830 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:23,399 Speaker 2: we'll see on that, okay, But from what you can see, Matt, 831 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 2: and be honest, when you have two guys that everybody 832 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,640 Speaker 2: knew from the get go are competing against one another, 833 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 2: but you also have one that could benefit from the 834 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,719 Speaker 2: experience level of the other, how much interaction have you 835 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 2: seen between the two of them in terms of cohesiveness 836 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,280 Speaker 2: or learning between the two. 837 00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,239 Speaker 6: I think a lot. I mean, I think it's inevitable. 838 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 8: You can't be out here and you can't have as 839 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,239 Speaker 8: much time on task on the field and the meeting 840 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:51,400 Speaker 8: rooms and not have that. I mean, you can you know, 841 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,240 Speaker 8: like hypothetically, Daniel Jones could have come in here and said, 842 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,120 Speaker 8: you know, I've started seventy games, this guy started fifteen. 843 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,920 Speaker 8: My numbers are what they are. Numbers are what they are. 844 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:02,920 Speaker 8: Why am I you brought me in here in free 845 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:04,960 Speaker 8: agency for a reason? Why am I competing with this guy? 846 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:05,279 Speaker 1: Right? 847 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:09,080 Speaker 8: But I think you're seeing a great deal of growth. 848 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,120 Speaker 8: I think you're seeing a great deal of maturity from 849 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 8: Anthony trying to learn from Daniel. You're seeing the continued 850 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:18,800 Speaker 8: professionalism from Daniel helping out Anthony Richardson and being encouraging 851 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,719 Speaker 8: of him, and you're sort of seeing it play out, Jake, 852 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 8: where I don't know if it's coincidence or not, but 853 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,239 Speaker 8: when one guy has a really good day, the other 854 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 8: one does too, And when the other guy's a little off, 855 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 8: so is the other one, right, you know what I mean? 856 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:33,719 Speaker 8: So I still think you and I have talked about 857 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:38,560 Speaker 8: this a lot. The lack of availability of Anthony Richardson, 858 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:42,240 Speaker 8: combined with his production or lack thereof, on the field, 859 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,120 Speaker 8: has forced the Colt's hand into this situation. 860 00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,560 Speaker 6: And I don't think the Colts care. I really don't 861 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 6: think they care. 862 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:55,080 Speaker 8: They will take Anthony Richardson reaching his potential, continuing to 863 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,600 Speaker 8: reach that ceiling that they had for him when they 864 00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 8: drafted him forth overall, or take career resurgence out of 865 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:05,520 Speaker 8: Daniel Jones a La Baker Mayfield or Sam Darnold in Minnesota. 866 00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 8: Whichever one they get, they will take because it's more consistent. 867 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,040 Speaker 1: Quarterba's what I say. They desperately need it. 868 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:15,440 Speaker 2: In addition to that, though, Matt, the thing at this point, 869 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,200 Speaker 2: if you aren't certain which of the two of them 870 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,759 Speaker 2: is going to have the most consistency, then I think 871 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:23,360 Speaker 2: you defer to the one that you think gives you 872 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,560 Speaker 2: the bigger ceiling, and in that case, it's Richardson in 873 00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,040 Speaker 2: my opinion, Yeah. 874 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:30,080 Speaker 8: I mean perhaps, I mean, listen, you're exactly right. Hopefully, 875 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,920 Speaker 8: what you can do is take the two things that 876 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:36,000 Speaker 8: last year or the first two years Anthony Richardson did 877 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,719 Speaker 8: really well, and that's run the football and throw the 878 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:43,560 Speaker 8: deep ball. And you couple that with his entire offseason's 879 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:48,000 Speaker 8: focus of completing the layups and getting more completions in 880 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,120 Speaker 8: the middle of the field, working in tight ends more 881 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,960 Speaker 8: you know, completions between the numbers fifteen to twenty yards 882 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:57,040 Speaker 8: down the field. If you get that, then yeah, I 883 00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,600 Speaker 8: think you really have something because if he can make 884 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:03,120 Speaker 8: the play that ninety nine percent of the quarterbacks can make, 885 00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:07,040 Speaker 8: along with making the plays that ninety nine percent of 886 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:11,000 Speaker 8: the other quarterbacks can't make, just like that peer sixty 887 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:12,880 Speaker 8: five yard bomb in Week one last year, then I 888 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,200 Speaker 8: think it really got something. But you know, we're a 889 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,760 Speaker 8: long way from fully knowing exactly how much Anthony Richardson 890 00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,680 Speaker 8: can put it together this year and or if he'll 891 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:23,360 Speaker 8: start Week one against the Dolphins. 892 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,279 Speaker 2: You know, I think our best conversation in this whole 893 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:26,920 Speaker 2: thing was when we were off the air, right. 894 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:27,400 Speaker 1: I agree. 895 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:29,200 Speaker 6: That doesn't typically how it goes. 896 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,120 Speaker 1: It's like, do you want to come by later, We'll 897 00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:31,919 Speaker 1: just record that again. 898 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,520 Speaker 8: Yeah, we'll talk about Yeah, we'll talk about CCR hits 899 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:38,120 Speaker 8: from nineteen sixty nine in that woodstock or yeah, we 900 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:41,040 Speaker 8: can talk about Spartansburg, South Carolina with Marshall Tucker. 901 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,440 Speaker 1: Whatever you want to do, brother, it's you man. Yeah. 902 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,240 Speaker 1: Do you know what? Do you know what schools in Spartanbrook, 903 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:45,840 Speaker 1: South Carolina? 904 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:47,440 Speaker 6: What else is cool about that place? 905 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:48,520 Speaker 1: Do you know what school is that? 906 00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:50,399 Speaker 6: Oh? 907 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:51,759 Speaker 1: College? What is that? 908 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:52,719 Speaker 6: South Carolina State? 909 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:55,680 Speaker 1: Boy? I'm not that might be in Spartanburg. 910 00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:55,920 Speaker 5: I know. 911 00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,160 Speaker 1: I'm just guessing Darius Leonard that's in school. Right. 912 00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,799 Speaker 2: There is a okay, Division one basketball, not football, an 913 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,439 Speaker 2: occasional NCAA tournament team. 914 00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:06,719 Speaker 6: See, I'm not very good at this. 915 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:08,040 Speaker 1: They're the Terriers. 916 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:09,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm not very good at this. 917 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:11,480 Speaker 1: That'd be Wafford. Yeah. 918 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:15,040 Speaker 2: I Spartanburg's out there, huge BMW plant there by the way, 919 00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,160 Speaker 2: it's Spartanburg. That's why that's why now it's harder to 920 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,000 Speaker 2: get hotel rooms and Clemson just so you. 921 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,800 Speaker 1: Know, oh yeah, I forgot about the as before we 922 00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:22,120 Speaker 1: let you go. 923 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,520 Speaker 2: Matt Taylor, our guest voice of the Colts, you are 924 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:28,680 Speaker 2: looking for what in terms of this practice and in 925 00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:32,319 Speaker 2: preseason game number two and not including quarterback, but you're 926 00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,680 Speaker 2: looking for just more footing or better understanding where. 927 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,160 Speaker 8: Well, I want to see specifically the guys that are 928 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,480 Speaker 8: kicking ass so far in training camp. I want to 929 00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,239 Speaker 8: see him continue to kick ass against another team who. 930 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,919 Speaker 8: I want to see Laatsu Latsu continue to kick ass 931 00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,760 Speaker 8: against another jersey. I want to see ad Ni Mitchell 932 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,799 Speaker 8: continue to dominate somebody else and get open and you know, 933 00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:55,120 Speaker 8: show that flare. 934 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,120 Speaker 1: In the open practice against the Ravens. Did you like 935 00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:58,320 Speaker 1: what he did in the game. 936 00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:02,080 Speaker 6: Hell, yeah, absolutely. 937 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,880 Speaker 1: Because he was what he had two or three catches, 938 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:04,920 Speaker 1: six targets. 939 00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,480 Speaker 6: Right, you know, Tyler Warren, same thing. 940 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,280 Speaker 8: Dominate the middle of the field, Get him involved in screens, 941 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:12,400 Speaker 8: get him involved in drags. You know, between the numbers, 942 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:16,000 Speaker 8: he had three catches or three targets, three catches forty yards. 943 00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:18,400 Speaker 8: I want to see more of that. I want to 944 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,000 Speaker 8: see Jonathan Taylor rip off a couple of big runs. 945 00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:24,160 Speaker 8: I want to see the stars show out. And there's 946 00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,520 Speaker 8: rumors going around that the Packers aren't going to play 947 00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,000 Speaker 8: their starters on Saturday. The Colts will for a quarter. 948 00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,040 Speaker 8: The Colts have to dominate that first quarter, and the 949 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:32,760 Speaker 8: Packers they. 950 00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:36,000 Speaker 1: Have to They just got dominated by the Jets, right, I. 951 00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:36,719 Speaker 6: Looked it up, Jake. 952 00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,760 Speaker 8: The Packers had one hundred and eighty eight yards of offense, 953 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,480 Speaker 8: one touchdown, and they didn't reach the red zone. Yeah, 954 00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:45,279 Speaker 8: against the Jets in the preseason. 955 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:46,600 Speaker 2: I don't know if you know this or not. And 956 00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:47,920 Speaker 2: this is a new thing that they're trying to do. 957 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,719 Speaker 2: You know, the NFL is the pound gorilla, right, but 958 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:52,440 Speaker 2: we know and I don't. You're not a soccer guy, 959 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:52,759 Speaker 2: are you? 960 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:53,120 Speaker 1: No? 961 00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,040 Speaker 2: No, nor am I? But you know, young people love 962 00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:58,120 Speaker 2: soccer and so the NFL. It's not the NFL's job 963 00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,200 Speaker 2: to chase what other people are doing. But they're always innovative. 964 00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:04,000 Speaker 2: And my understanding is that they say, now, if you 965 00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,040 Speaker 2: lose twice to the Packers, you get relegated. Did you 966 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,160 Speaker 2: know to the Jets you get relegated. So the Packers 967 00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,359 Speaker 2: might get relegated just to keep up with they. 968 00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,600 Speaker 6: Got to go down to trip A or the XFL or. 969 00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,879 Speaker 1: What is it the UFL this week? 970 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:16,160 Speaker 5: What? 971 00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:16,480 Speaker 1: What? Like? 972 00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:16,920 Speaker 6: I don't know. 973 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:17,680 Speaker 1: I've tried everything. 974 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:19,240 Speaker 6: I don't watch football in the spring. 975 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:19,680 Speaker 1: I was. 976 00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,600 Speaker 2: I was a Florida Tuskers fan or Taskers or something 977 00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:24,280 Speaker 2: for like a week and then it went away. 978 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:26,120 Speaker 6: You would know better than I. 979 00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,879 Speaker 2: The there was the American Football League for a while. 980 00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,719 Speaker 2: I'm a Birmingham I was a Birmingham Stallions fan in 981 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,320 Speaker 2: their CFL. And they're going to see it now CFL 982 00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:35,759 Speaker 2: Hamilton Tigers, I'm all in. 983 00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:37,759 Speaker 1: Yeah. We went IndyCar a couple of years ago. 984 00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:39,840 Speaker 2: We went to the Toronto Race and we decided to 985 00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:43,120 Speaker 2: go to a to a CFL game and we went 986 00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,279 Speaker 2: to the Hambleton Tiger. And so I was going to 987 00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,200 Speaker 2: go and be contrariant and root for the Calgary Stampeders. 988 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,880 Speaker 8: Yeah, buy a hat, just really like be a like 989 00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:52,560 Speaker 8: a lane in Sichl the Oriels. 990 00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:53,719 Speaker 1: That's exactly right. 991 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:55,960 Speaker 2: So we went there and there was one other kid 992 00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,200 Speaker 2: that was there as a heel, and to use your term, 993 00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:00,239 Speaker 2: I got his ass kicked and so I said, I, okay, 994 00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:01,280 Speaker 2: that's fine, and so I'm officied. 995 00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:01,520 Speaker 1: Sorry. 996 00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:03,640 Speaker 6: I didn't mean to bring us too much color I. 997 00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:05,800 Speaker 2: Found out the Hamlet and Tiger Cats. They're the goons. 998 00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:09,319 Speaker 2: They're like the that's the Goose. It's like Liverpool. So 999 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,399 Speaker 2: I'm all right. I got a hat and everything. Now 1000 00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:13,800 Speaker 2: now you know, all right, Matt Taylor, we've kept you 1001 00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,000 Speaker 2: wait too long. I appreciate it. Man A good Matt Taylor, 1002 00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:20,880 Speaker 2: Voice of the Colts. This is a busy weekend in Westfield. 1003 00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:24,239 Speaker 2: And by the way, speaking of busy, Eddie, you will 1004 00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:28,040 Speaker 2: be busy on Monday, the twenty fifth of August at 1005 00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:35,120 Speaker 2: seven pm because this breaking news. The Quarry and Company 1006 00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,480 Speaker 2: Fantasy Football Draft will take place at the Chicago's Pizza 1007 00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:42,319 Speaker 2: in Greenwood on the twenty fifth at seven pm. So 1008 00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:46,560 Speaker 2: plenty of awesome pizza, and then we will over the 1009 00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:50,200 Speaker 2: course of tomorrow and then after that begin filling out. 1010 00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:52,080 Speaker 1: The league itself. 1011 00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,920 Speaker 2: We know that Eddie Garrison will be in it, and 1012 00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,160 Speaker 2: we will get listeners to join and accompany us and 1013 00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:01,560 Speaker 2: then come up to Chicago's in Greenwood for our draft, 1014 00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:04,040 Speaker 2: which we look forward to. We also look forward to 1015 00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,960 Speaker 2: this week into a very busy time in Westfield. As 1016 00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,600 Speaker 2: a matter of fact, Matt Deck is with the Mayor's 1017 00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:10,480 Speaker 2: Office in Westfield. 1018 00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:11,680 Speaker 1: He is Matt. 1019 00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:14,239 Speaker 2: You are the director of Facilities and Events, and that 1020 00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,520 Speaker 2: means that you are quite the busy guy, because it 1021 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:20,040 Speaker 2: goes without saying that this is a big event for Westfield, 1022 00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:23,200 Speaker 2: always has been. But they live golf also at Chatham Hills, 1023 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,120 Speaker 2: which is just about a mile and a half directly 1024 00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,960 Speaker 2: north kind of due northeast of here, if I'm not mistaken. 1025 00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:30,840 Speaker 2: But man, it's pretty exciting time in Westfield, Indiana. 1026 00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,640 Speaker 10: Jake, it may be the most exciting weekend we've had 1027 00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:37,560 Speaker 10: in Westfield in years. And yeah, to conclude colts camp 1028 00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:41,200 Speaker 10: with thirteen practices that didn't include any rain, we're very 1029 00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:41,920 Speaker 10: grateful for that. 1030 00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:45,560 Speaker 1: And Matt, Matt, No, we're good, Jake, We're good. No, Jake, 1031 00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:46,640 Speaker 1: it's two thirty six. 1032 00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,680 Speaker 10: We only have about two hours and twenty four minutes 1033 00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:53,279 Speaker 10: and the skies are completely blue. And then so we 1034 00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:56,760 Speaker 10: end to practice at five pm tonight with the packers 1035 00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,240 Speaker 10: and then we start right into the live golf tournament 1036 00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:03,760 Speaker 10: tomorrow with a twelve oh five shotgun tea time gates 1037 00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,840 Speaker 10: opening at ten, with the shuttle service starting thirty minutes 1038 00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:07,239 Speaker 10: before that. 1039 00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:08,440 Speaker 1: Okay, let's begin with this. 1040 00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:11,000 Speaker 2: Since you are the director of Facilities and Events, so 1041 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:12,799 Speaker 2: the event itself, and I know that this is a 1042 00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,399 Speaker 2: big deal with the Colts, but you know, everybody now 1043 00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:17,319 Speaker 2: is kind of up to speed on how things work 1044 00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:20,080 Speaker 2: here because this is a you know, a seamless event. 1045 00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:23,160 Speaker 2: Now people are accustomed to it here. Live Golf is 1046 00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:26,719 Speaker 2: new in Westfield. Here at Chatham Hills. This is a 1047 00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,360 Speaker 2: big deal because they're going to be crowding their season 1048 00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:33,799 Speaker 2: champion for Live. And certainly I know, and I'll say it, 1049 00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:35,800 Speaker 2: I mean Live is one that when it was first 1050 00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,680 Speaker 2: announced as a league and the players that were joining 1051 00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,640 Speaker 2: it, it was a very polarizing thing within the sports landscape, 1052 00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:45,160 Speaker 2: but it's still is one that is a major sports league. 1053 00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,560 Speaker 1: It ended up in Westfield. How how did this all 1054 00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:48,120 Speaker 1: come together? 1055 00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:51,280 Speaker 10: I want to say Jake was May of twenty twenty 1056 00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:56,040 Speaker 10: four that Live connected with the leadership at Chatham Hills 1057 00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:59,280 Speaker 10: and then they in turn connected with the Mayor's office 1058 00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:03,040 Speaker 10: and Hamilton Tourism and discussions to start started at that 1059 00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:06,320 Speaker 10: point probably took two three months of back and forth 1060 00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:09,640 Speaker 10: where we were able to put together an opportunity for 1061 00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:14,319 Speaker 10: them to select Westfield as their concluding stop for their 1062 00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:17,480 Speaker 10: individual championship. And I got to tell you the live 1063 00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,640 Speaker 10: folks and the folks that help them put on this 1064 00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:23,160 Speaker 10: tournament have been completely blown away by the amount of 1065 00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:26,480 Speaker 10: effort and energy that has been put forth by not 1066 00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:28,400 Speaker 10: only the City of Westfield, but the folks here in 1067 00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:31,080 Speaker 10: Hamilton County. We absolutely as you can see with the 1068 00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:33,600 Speaker 10: success that we've had every year with Colts Camp, we're 1069 00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,720 Speaker 10: putting that same energy into this tournament and they're already 1070 00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:37,200 Speaker 10: blown away. 1071 00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:39,520 Speaker 6: So we expect nothing but success this weekend. 1072 00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,040 Speaker 1: Forty thousand will be here for that. Right In terms 1073 00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:43,920 Speaker 1: of the live golf, that's what we're expecting. 1074 00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:47,440 Speaker 10: We are literally expecting a record setting number for any 1075 00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,680 Speaker 10: live weekend and we are absolutely prepared. 1076 00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:53,000 Speaker 2: For Okay, so let's talk about that for those that 1077 00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,560 Speaker 2: are coming up for this you mentioned earlier. 1078 00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:56,000 Speaker 1: Parking. 1079 00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,600 Speaker 2: You know, it's interesting because whenever you have a golf 1080 00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:01,200 Speaker 2: event that's taking place at a private club like that, 1081 00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:03,400 Speaker 2: it's not like going to a Colts game where you 1082 00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:05,960 Speaker 2: just pull into the you know lot E or you know, 1083 00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:09,279 Speaker 2: Huckleberry Hound lot F and walk in. Yeah, so you 1084 00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:11,759 Speaker 2: are facilitating or putting this together in terms of the 1085 00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:13,439 Speaker 2: accommodation in what way. 1086 00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:17,640 Speaker 10: So Parking, we have a giant open lot right across 1087 00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:19,680 Speaker 10: the street from the Grand Park Events Center on the 1088 00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:22,440 Speaker 10: north side of one hundred and ninety first Street. So 1089 00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:25,200 Speaker 10: we feel with that being the primary option and the 1090 00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:28,920 Speaker 10: only option and it just being absolutely wide open, the 1091 00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:32,160 Speaker 10: par five group that helps Live organize this event brings 1092 00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:35,640 Speaker 10: in another group to handle the parking services, so folks 1093 00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:37,600 Speaker 10: will be taken care of. We're going to get them 1094 00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,240 Speaker 10: in and get them out efficiently, and then as I mentioned, 1095 00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:41,879 Speaker 10: there is a shuttle to get them all the way 1096 00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:43,479 Speaker 10: up to Chatham Hills Country Club. 1097 00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:44,239 Speaker 1: So anyway to know. 1098 00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:45,960 Speaker 2: Matt Deck is our guest, by the way, director of 1099 00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:49,680 Speaker 2: Facilities and Events for Westfield, Indiana, which is hosting not 1100 00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:53,239 Speaker 2: only this practice between the Packers and the Colts, but 1101 00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,719 Speaker 2: also the Live Golf Championships at Chatham Hills that takes 1102 00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:59,640 Speaker 2: place this weekend. Anyway to know or target or ballpark 1103 00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,080 Speaker 2: the economic impact, Jake, I. 1104 00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:03,839 Speaker 10: Knew you're gonna ask me that, and well, you were 1105 00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:05,920 Speaker 10: gonna ask me that, and I was gonna that's a 1106 00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:06,520 Speaker 10: great question. 1107 00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:08,960 Speaker 2: I guess a better question would be this, because I 1108 00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,680 Speaker 2: realized those numbers are probably hard to know at this point, right. 1109 00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:13,600 Speaker 1: Jake, I believe I've heard the number thirty five million. 1110 00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:17,640 Speaker 2: Okay, now do we know just in terms of maybe 1111 00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:20,960 Speaker 2: lodging gives you a better idea of this, the number 1112 00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,600 Speaker 2: of people between both of these that are coming from 1113 00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,600 Speaker 2: outside of market to be able to come, and thus 1114 00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:29,280 Speaker 2: you have to then get hotels, restaurants, et cetera. 1115 00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:32,680 Speaker 10: Something that we're real excited to review with our partners 1116 00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:35,360 Speaker 10: at Hamilton County next week after we have all the 1117 00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:40,080 Speaker 10: official data. But we feel that from our own estimations 1118 00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:43,200 Speaker 10: that we're looking again between thirty and forty million dollars 1119 00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:46,880 Speaker 10: of economic impact between tonight and the end of the 1120 00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:47,840 Speaker 10: tournament on Sunday. 1121 00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,759 Speaker 2: You know, Grant Park in general, Matt Is You know 1122 00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:55,160 Speaker 2: this is obviously I think initially was kind of the 1123 00:50:55,200 --> 00:51:00,480 Speaker 2: staple of Westfield, but now Westfield continues to grow and 1124 00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:03,920 Speaker 2: provide even more than just Grand Park itself. But what 1125 00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:07,399 Speaker 2: has this particular facility meant, not just and I mean 1126 00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:11,200 Speaker 2: totally separate from the Colts itself in terms of people 1127 00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:15,040 Speaker 2: that are coming in and what's the long term viability 1128 00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:15,680 Speaker 2: of Grand Park? 1129 00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,160 Speaker 10: Love that question that is absolutely right up my alley 1130 00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,480 Speaker 10: and my passion. So back in I want to say 1131 00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,799 Speaker 10: twenty twelve when Mayor Cook and his team were first 1132 00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:28,759 Speaker 10: presented the idea of Grand Park. He mentioned to a 1133 00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:31,240 Speaker 10: group of folks that he felt that if we built 1134 00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:34,280 Speaker 10: this park, we could bring in anywhere from two hundred 1135 00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:38,520 Speaker 10: to three hundred thousand people a year. Last year twenty 1136 00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:42,840 Speaker 10: twenty four, Grand Park saw five point five million visitors. Believable, 1137 00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:46,120 Speaker 10: So it absolutely blew away even the early expectations of 1138 00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:48,560 Speaker 10: the folks that were planning this facility. 1139 00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:50,480 Speaker 1: This facility was built. 1140 00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:54,480 Speaker 10: To be an economic driver for the city via sports tourism. 1141 00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:58,200 Speaker 10: That's absolutely what it has done. And as Mayor Willis 1142 00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:00,640 Speaker 10: has taken office, that has been a priority of his. 1143 00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:04,239 Speaker 10: He has focused on economic development, taking advantage of the 1144 00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:07,759 Speaker 10: park and taking what Mayor Cook's team had initiated in 1145 00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:12,560 Speaker 10: leasing the park to a private operator, taking that idea 1146 00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:16,280 Speaker 10: to the next level in allowing that private operator to 1147 00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:20,279 Speaker 10: outdo the competition that Grand Park itself has created. And 1148 00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:22,799 Speaker 10: a big unique element to what we will be doing 1149 00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:24,719 Speaker 10: here in Grand Park is the Grand Park District, which 1150 00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,000 Speaker 10: is right in the middle, right in the heart of 1151 00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:32,000 Speaker 10: Grand Park. We're going to be bringing in businesses, restaurants, entertainments. 1152 00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:34,360 Speaker 10: We're going to create an atmosphere so that when folks 1153 00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,320 Speaker 10: come here, they don't want to leave. They want to 1154 00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:37,520 Speaker 10: stay here and enjoy themselves. 1155 00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:39,719 Speaker 2: Have you found that this is the blueprint for other 1156 00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:43,480 Speaker 2: Midwestern facilities like it? Or is it one that actually 1157 00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:45,800 Speaker 2: goes on the blueprint of what you have seen elsewhere? 1158 00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:50,160 Speaker 10: I feel like it's created a blueprint that many have 1159 00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:54,479 Speaker 10: attempted to accomplish. It's really hard to acquire four hundred acres. 1160 00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:56,440 Speaker 10: I was going to ask what the acre jees, it's 1161 00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:59,520 Speaker 10: four hundred acres. We have thirty four multi purpose fields, 1162 00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:03,120 Speaker 10: we have twenty six baseball and softball diamonds, and again 1163 00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,160 Speaker 10: we are looking to do more with it. But again, 1164 00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:08,439 Speaker 10: like I said, the idea in Grand Park created other 1165 00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:10,799 Speaker 10: communities to try to do the same thing, So we 1166 00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:12,960 Speaker 10: had to stay ahead of that and that's one of 1167 00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,200 Speaker 10: the reasons why we're now leasing it to a private entity. 1168 00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:17,000 Speaker 1: How many of the acres of the Old Thunder Island? 1169 00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:20,960 Speaker 10: How many talking about Old Thunder Island because that's it 1170 00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:22,920 Speaker 10: was three js and then it was the island. 1171 00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:26,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that is the that would technically be the 1172 00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:28,120 Speaker 2: south east corner of Grand Park. 1173 00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:30,400 Speaker 1: Is that correct? It is not on the campus property, 1174 00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:32,319 Speaker 1: but does it border up against it? I guess it's 1175 00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:36,319 Speaker 1: I think it's further north. Okay, I'm not. While I 1176 00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,600 Speaker 1: was geography experts like it's thirty I went. 1177 00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:40,279 Speaker 2: School for through one day a couple of years ago 1178 00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:42,080 Speaker 2: and managed to find the old water the remnants of 1179 00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:42,920 Speaker 2: the old water slides. 1180 00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:44,960 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I wanted to try to take them home. 1181 00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:46,840 Speaker 10: And was it you or someone else mentioned there was 1182 00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,000 Speaker 10: a movie shot there in the early nineth Janet Doherty 1183 00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:51,040 Speaker 10: was in the movie Yes, You're the one that told 1184 00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:51,520 Speaker 10: me that it is. 1185 00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:53,840 Speaker 2: Correct, And Janna Doherty was in the World's Worst B 1186 00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,759 Speaker 2: movie that took place she and her friend. She and 1187 00:53:56,800 --> 00:54:00,400 Speaker 2: her friends were right their high school newspaper undercover some 1188 00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:06,080 Speaker 2: nefarious political things. And the best part about it is 1189 00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:09,080 Speaker 2: so they had this crooked politician that was chasing them 1190 00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:10,920 Speaker 2: down because they were high school kids, blown the whistle 1191 00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:13,560 Speaker 2: and chases them up to the top of a water slide, 1192 00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:16,239 Speaker 2: and there was only one way Matt to get away, 1193 00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:17,040 Speaker 2: and that would be. 1194 00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:20,360 Speaker 1: Down down the water. That's right, Yeah, of course it 1195 00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:20,960 Speaker 1: was awesome. 1196 00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:23,359 Speaker 10: I tried so hard to find footage of that after 1197 00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:25,360 Speaker 10: you mentioned it. I think there was maybe one clip 1198 00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:26,120 Speaker 10: of it. 1199 00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:29,480 Speaker 2: It's incredible. I mean, it is literally the most cringe worthy. 1200 00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,560 Speaker 2: Yeah it's awesome. Yeah, sure again. Matt Deck is the 1201 00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:35,759 Speaker 2: director of Facilities and Events here in Westfield, Indiana. Live 1202 00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:39,600 Speaker 2: golf taking place Chatham Hills this weekend. Also, of course, 1203 00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:43,240 Speaker 2: colts and packers practice getting at away three o'clock today, Matt. 1204 00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:45,440 Speaker 2: In terms of and watch this, wait till you see 1205 00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:48,440 Speaker 2: what I do here in terms of Westfield, what's on deck? 1206 00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:51,879 Speaker 2: Moving moving forward to things that you're hoping to bring here. 1207 00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,760 Speaker 10: You know, we're really focusing on the economic development around 1208 00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:58,560 Speaker 10: here and utilizing Grand Park as the tool to grow that. 1209 00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:01,720 Speaker 10: And I'm sure you you saw that Ed Carpenter Racing 1210 00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:04,200 Speaker 10: is kind of the foundational element of our Grand Park district. 1211 00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:09,000 Speaker 10: That business joining and I know being enticing to so 1212 00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:12,040 Speaker 10: many other businesses that will come to the district. We 1213 00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:16,520 Speaker 10: are also looking at opportunities to help enhance Grand Park 1214 00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:19,520 Speaker 10: twelve months out of the year and not just perhaps nine, 1215 00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:21,520 Speaker 10: So we are looking at everything to keep this park 1216 00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:22,839 Speaker 10: busy all the time. 1217 00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:25,680 Speaker 2: I'm telling you if with ECR Ed Carpenter Racing here 1218 00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:27,160 Speaker 2: as well, you got to get make sure that they're 1219 00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:29,440 Speaker 2: bringing you plenty of Java House because that's oh yes. 1220 00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:31,440 Speaker 1: Of course Java House is awesome. Absolutely. 1221 00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:33,840 Speaker 2: I don't even like coffee, and now I'm hooked on 1222 00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,839 Speaker 2: the Java House Columbia coffee, the peel and poor I 1223 00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:39,680 Speaker 2: just poort right in and it's like it doesn't taste 1224 00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:41,960 Speaker 2: like coffee to me, and now I'm addicted to it. 1225 00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:44,800 Speaker 1: I haven't slept in three weeks. What a great plus 1226 00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:46,759 Speaker 1: that's new is I love to learn that that's a 1227 00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:49,719 Speaker 1: new thing. I also have energy drinks and hydration of course. 1228 00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:51,799 Speaker 1: Of course, Matt, I appreciate it as always. Man A 1229 00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:52,600 Speaker 1: great job, Jake. 1230 00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:54,279 Speaker 10: We love having you up here at Westfield to close 1231 00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:56,319 Speaker 10: out Colts Camp, and we hope to see everyone up 1232 00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:58,320 Speaker 10: at Chatham Hills this Friday, Saturday and Sunday. 1233 00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:01,960 Speaker 2: Matt Deck, Director of Facilities and Events for Westfield, Indiana,