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Speaker 1: will be ready when you arrive. Joining us now, Joel Ericson,

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Speaker 1: who was always ready, Joel, Let's get.

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Speaker 2: Right to the meat of the matter.

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Speaker 1: By the way, speaking of the meat atdie, you like

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you've have you enjoyed a few pieces? One

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Speaker 2: so far?

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Speaker 2: One?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Okay, if you consider it's like saying, you know, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I've only had one state. It's called New England. Right,

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Speaker 1: but nonetheless Joel joining us. Joel, let's get right to

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Speaker 1: the specifics, the details, give us the numbers on specifically

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Speaker 1: what we're looking at here for Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing we don't We don't know. The

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Speaker 3: thing everybody wants to know right now is the cap

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Speaker 2: I see that.

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Speaker 3: I have not seen the full structure of the deal yet.

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Speaker 3: I've seen some reports about what the signing bonus could be.

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Speaker 3: But there's this thing, and this is this is where

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Speaker 3: we're going to get right into the deep stuff right away.

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Speaker 3: There's the thing you can use a contract called a

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Speaker 3: void year, which is essentially like it's a two year deal, right, Well,

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Speaker 3: then they can put a big signing bonus on it,

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Speaker 3: spread it out, and that cap hit gets much smaller,

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Speaker 3: that's what they've done because that frees up cap space.

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Speaker 3: And also, honestly, if it doesn't work out and all

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Speaker 3: of that accelerates in a future year, you're in a

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Speaker 1: You know, it gets very intricate, Joel, Right, And I'm

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Speaker 1: curious of this. I know in the NBA world, for example,

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Speaker 1: of his responsibility is understanding the nuances, the terminology, the legality,

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Speaker 1: the clauses of the salary cap and contracts and maneuverability

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Speaker 1: I know they have Dan Emerson, who is their legal counsel.

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Speaker 1: But in terms of cap numerology, is that does that

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Speaker 3: That's Mike bloom Mike bloom Is it has been the

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Speaker 3: about every team has one of those. It doesn't often

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Speaker 3: Eric Fisher's deal had a void year on it. I

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Speaker 1: You think it's just coincidence that the guy's last name

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Speaker 2: Is that? I mean?

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Speaker 1: Honestly, like, if his name was Mike Hibernate, would he

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Speaker 3: I if it was, if it was something like how.

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Speaker 1: Mike count or something, No way that that was that

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Speaker 1: let's Eddie, if you could, please, can you mute the

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Speaker 1: last thirty seconds of the conversation, U Joe, We thank

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Speaker 1: you for joining us today.

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Speaker 3: I thought that very well.

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Speaker 1: That's that's Joel Ericson, who used to work for the

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Speaker 1: Indie Star joining us on the program. Any other how

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Speaker 1: about how how about Mike Numeral?

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Speaker 2: Is that safe for Mike Numeral? Can we just go

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Speaker 3: Mike Mike numbers. It's like the h There was a

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Speaker 1: Okay, So anyway back to our mature conversation, this leaves,

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Speaker 1: as we understand it, or we assume Joel, this would

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Speaker 1: leave then the Colts what kind of room in terms

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Speaker 1: are they now pretty much? Are we where we are now?

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Speaker 3: If they if they structured this deal in a way

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Speaker 3: We haven't seen the structure of Alec Pierce's deal yet

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Speaker 3: because they're they're not filing that with the League office

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Speaker 3: when the trades for Michael Pittman, Anzi or Franklin can

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Speaker 1: Is it coincidence that the Daniel Jones signing came once

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Speaker 1: we knew Trey Hendrickson was off the board? Were they

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Speaker 1: are they not related?

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Speaker 3: I don't think they're related. I think that they were

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Speaker 3: planning to have I think that they were hoping to

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Speaker 3: have Trey Hendrickson and Daniel Jones together, regardless of what

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Speaker 3: that's that's my understanding is that they It wouldn't They

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Speaker 1: My understanding is Hendrickson that it was about a three

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Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know, but I want you to tell me, Joel,

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Speaker 1: why I'm wrong.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: I believe that the Colts were saved from themselves here

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Speaker 1: because it is my belief that giving that kind of

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Speaker 3: it's sixty million in guarantees. So if it's the two

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Speaker 3: My first thought was it's a long time to give

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Speaker 3: is did the Colts offer four years or was it

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Speaker 3: They they traditionally have have held to the shorter deals

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Speaker 1: Do you believe that the Colts think Joel Joel Erickson's

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Speaker 1: my guest from the Indianapolis Star.

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Speaker 2: He's on the Java House Coldbrew Coffee guest line.

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Speaker 1: Are they starting to think that Leatu Latu is not

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Speaker 3: I They they still say that they think he can

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Speaker 3: a roundabout way of saying they're still hoping that he's

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Speaker 3: would be hard to argue that he has. I know

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Speaker 3: harder to make that. I think there's a way to

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Speaker 1: You know, if the guy, like, for example, if the

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Speaker 1: You know, we'd laugh about that if he had some

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Speaker 3: To enunciate the O. I tried to really get the.

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Speaker 1: You're very you're very adamant that you went about this

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Speaker 1: You're very adamant about this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I I tried. I tried really hard to enunciate

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Speaker 2: Here, Eddie's staring at the floor, Eddie. Eddie is staring

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's still upset about Team USA losing last night.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, did you watch that, Joel? I did?

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Speaker 3: I did.

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Speaker 1: I thought the loss was one thing. The manager not

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, that I I had.

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Speaker 1: All right, Joe, we'll let you get back to work.

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Speaker 2: I knew I knew you'd agree with that. All right,

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Speaker 1: You had and boy, you know we've seen last year

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Speaker 1: their body like acclivates because we just had to change

442
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Speaker 1: our clocks right for daylight savings. Now if I'm not mistaken,

443
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Speaker 1: you tell me if I'm wrong. But like when you

444
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Speaker 1: were a kid growing up in Denmark, and I mean

445
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Speaker 1: this is obviously the case still, but in June there

446
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Speaker 1: the sun comes up at like three o'clock in the

447
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 1: morning and then gets dark at midnight something like that.

448
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 1: Now that's I'm probably embarrassing a little bit, but is

449
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Speaker 1: there some truth to that? Like is it do you

450
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Speaker 1: get like the twenty hours of daylight there in Denmark?

451
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Speaker 6: It's not quite that extreme, but yes, in the summertime

452
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:23,120
Speaker 6: is definitely very long base and it's slipped in the winter, right,

453
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Speaker 6: Like I remember going to school when I was younger,

454
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Speaker 6: waking up in the morning, sun would come up around

455
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Speaker 6: nine and they would be down again around three, So

456
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 6: definitely short days in the winter too.

457
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's no bueno, man, I mean that is not good,

458
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:39,879
Speaker 1: Like I would have zero energy.

459
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Speaker 5: Yeah, winter depression is definitely a thing.

460
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Speaker 1: You need to send a bunch of Wrangler energy from

461
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Speaker 1: Java House to the folks in Denmark in the winter

462
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,199
Speaker 1: time to carry them through along with the coffee. But

463
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Speaker 1: I wanted to ask this before we let you go.

464
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Speaker 1: I'm always fascinated of this question, Christian. You've obviously now

465
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Speaker 1: been around the United States a lot because of the

466
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Speaker 1: series and just being here now, and I know this

467
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 1: sounds like a dumb question, but it fascinates me, and

468
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Speaker 1: I think people find it interesting. What area of the

469
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Speaker 1: United States, if any, have you been to that most

470
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Speaker 1: reminds you of home? And by that I mean the countryside,

471
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Speaker 1: the topography, the way that the true you know, just

472
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Speaker 1: the way everything looks. Denmark looks the most like what

473
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Speaker 1: area of the United States.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a great question.

475
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Speaker 6: I don't think I've I've really been anywhere in the

476
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Speaker 6: States that really reminds me.

477
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Speaker 5: Of Denmark.

478
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Speaker 6: Obviously, we have a lot of coastline, so it's very coastal.

479
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Speaker 6: No matter where you are in Denmark, you're a maximum

480
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Speaker 6: of I think thirty or thirty five minute drive from

481
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Speaker 6: the ocean, so it would be somewhere coastal, but main

482
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Speaker 6: That's hard for me to pick out because I think

483
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:08,640
Speaker 6: in many ways they are very different. Architectures is different,

484
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Speaker 6: infrastructure is different.

485
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Speaker 1: Is there a city anywhere that feels like I've always

486
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 1: heard Copenhagen is super cool, man, I would love to

487
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,919
Speaker 1: go there. Is there a US city that feels like

488
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Speaker 1: it in any way.

489
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Speaker 5: For me?

490
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Speaker 6: No, not really, I think, you know, I think there's

491
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,959
Speaker 6: obviously I'm biased being from there and all, but I

492
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 6: always say that there's no place quite, no no place

493
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 6: quite like Copenhagen in the summer one of my favorite

494
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Speaker 6: places to be and being.

495
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Speaker 5: Home and all. But you know, Carmel, Indiana has has

496
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Speaker 5: become my.

497
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Speaker 6: New home and I love being here, and not that

498
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:54,679
Speaker 6: it reminds me very much of Copenhagen, but that has

499
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Speaker 6: become home.

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Speaker 1: And of course we do the best, but now much

501
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Speaker 1: no matter how much we try, Christian we you can't

502
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 1: get the sun to come up here at four thirty

503
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 1: in the morning in the summer and set at nine

504
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,159
Speaker 1: thirty at night, But it would be awesome if it

505
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 1: could happen. But we'll see if the sun shines you

506
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 1: on you in Arlington. Obviously it's going to be a

507
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 1: great event, the Java House Grand Prix of Arlington taking

508
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 1: place this weekend for Indy car and certainly wish you

509
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 1: the best, look forward to seeing you down there and

510
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 1: watching your race, and wish you the best on a

511
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 1: strong finish for the race coming up this weekend.

512
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Speaker 5: Thank you very much, thanks for having me appreciate it.

513
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 2: Christian Rasmusen joining us again.

514
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Speaker 1: Java House Coldbrew Coffee guest line joining us now, Eddie

515
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 1: lets me know he is on and ready to go

516
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,119
Speaker 1: on the Java House Coldbrew Coffee guest line. Bruce Weber,

517
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 1: the former Purdue Illinois several places coach joining us now

518
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 1: working with the BTN and coach. I got to start

519
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 1: with this. I'm watching the other night, and I apologize

520
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,479
Speaker 1: I can't remember what game I'm watching, but as soon

521
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 1: as it was over, they go to the studio and

522
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 1: there you are analyzing the game as you do, and

523
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 1: I immediately thought to myself, you know, I love Bruce

524
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:58,640
Speaker 1: Weber because this guy seeming.

525
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Speaker 2: He has never had a bad day. This guy always

526
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 2: in a good mood.

527
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 1: I guess when you get to work around basketball and

528
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 1: watch it and analyze it for a living, there's no

529
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:07,120
Speaker 1: reason to be in a bad mood.

530
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:08,919
Speaker 2: But you're always happy, aren't you.

531
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Speaker 5: Yeah. I mean, I enjoy life.

532
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 4: I've been very, very fortunate, you know, to have the

533
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 4: opportunities I have. I never you know, I had a

534
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,360
Speaker 4: dream of being a somewhere along the line of being

535
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 4: a college.

536
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 5: Coach, and and I got that opportunity.

537
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 4: And you just think of all the experience I've had

538
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,880
Speaker 4: and the people I've had been able to be around,

539
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 4: and you know, from USA Basketball to win a world

540
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,919
Speaker 4: you know, a World championship with that, to get to

541
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,439
Speaker 4: the final four to you know, and then all the

542
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 4: other you know, and then to be just the players

543
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 4: we've associated with, and it's just a blast. And I,

544
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,199
Speaker 4: you know, to be at the United Center and watching

545
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 4: these guys, you know, battle their butts off and the

546
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,679
Speaker 4: coaches go through what they want, you know, have to

547
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 4: go through.

548
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 5: It's just fun. And I enjoy it.

549
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 4: And I try to bring some positivity, uh to the

550
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 4: student and really promote the league.

551
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 5: I love the league. I've been part of it. For

552
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:05,120
Speaker 5: most of my life.

553
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 4: And grew up in Wisconsin watching you know, the Badgers

554
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,199
Speaker 4: win a long long time ago when they were not

555
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 4: very good, and so it's just fun.

556
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 1: Let's let's break down this tournament. And we talked to

557
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 1: Dave Rebson about it yesterday. One of the things to

558
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 1: me that is the most intriguing is, you know, we

559
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,199
Speaker 1: know that when you have the number of teams that

560
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 1: are in this league, coach that obviously you're gonna have

561
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 1: depth and you're gonna have versatility of style of play.

562
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,919
Speaker 2: But there are some really good teams.

563
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 1: Purdue comes to mind that you know obviously can flip

564
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 1: a switch and win the whole thing for that matter,

565
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 1: But yet they find themselves a seven seed, and then

566
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Speaker 1: there are those above them that maybe we're a little

567
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 1: bit of a surprise.

568
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 2: So I'll throw it to you with this one.

569
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Speaker 1: What team in this conference right now do you feel

570
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 1: has most gotten everything out of themselves to be seated

571
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Speaker 1: and slotted where they are within this conference tournament?

572
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 4: I would say two teams, and I'm looking at the

573
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 4: bracket right in front of me, and one would be Nebraska.

574
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 4: You know that he Fred has done an unbelievable job

575
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 4: for what they have and and.

576
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 5: And again they have good players.

577
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 4: Don't get me wrong, you don't do what they've done

578
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 4: if you didn't have good players.

579
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 5: But they have maximized everything out of them.

580
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 4: And then I still, you know, Michigan State Tom Izzo

581
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 4: has done a really, really.

582
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 5: Good job this year.

583
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 4: I you know, they were good last year, but then

584
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 4: they lost a lot of nice pieces that those guys

585
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:39,959
Speaker 4: have continued to improve. Fears has made astronomical strides. And

586
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 4: I think both those guys, Now this is nothing against

587
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 4: Michigan or Illinois. Dusty Maye deserved to be the coach

588
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 4: of the Year along with Fred I mean, you know,

589
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 4: but Michigan has more talent. Illinois probably has more talent.

590
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 4: And now there's and I've been through it if there

591
00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:00,080
Speaker 4: is something the coaching talent, and you know, a lot

592
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 4: of times you don't get credit. I know when Matt

593
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 4: Painter had Zach, everyone like didn't give Matt to credit

594
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 4: that he deserved because there is something to doing that,

595
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 4: to having those good players getting a lot out of them.

596
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 4: So all those guys have done a good job. But

597
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 4: I like what Nebraska and Michigan State have done.

598
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Speaker 1: What has changed for Purdue from last year to this

599
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: that has seemingly caused a drop off in their perimeter defense.

600
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Speaker 4: You know, I it's and I've talked with Matt about it,

601
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 4: you know, off and on, and.

602
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 5: I know he's a little frustrated.

603
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Speaker 2: You know.

604
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Speaker 4: I don't know if it's just because they've gone with

605
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 4: two bigs it's changed the dynamics of it.

606
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Speaker 5: I don't, you know, I don't know.

607
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 4: If you know, even last year, if you remember back,

608
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 4: they got beat off the dribble and at times, and

609
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 4: that was a problem they had, but they didn't have

610
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 4: as much problem with this the ball screens like they did.

611
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 4: You know, they have had this year. And you know,

612
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 4: he's he's tried everything. I know that he's experimented with

613
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 4: some stuff. And you know, defense is a lot of things.

614
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 4: It's it's you know, first, it's pride. You got to

615
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 4: you got to want to do it. It's got to

616
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 4: be important to you. It's habits over the course of time.

617
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 4: It's concepts that coaches, you know, put his schemes and

618
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 4: things like that. So when you add them all together,

619
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Speaker 4: you know, that's when you have teams that are really

620
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 4: good defensively. And right now they just you know, it's

621
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Speaker 4: it's pretty obvious they've they've struggled.

622
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Speaker 5: You don't give up ninety something at home, and.

623
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Speaker 4: Wisconsin scores a lot of points on a lot of people.

624
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 4: But you know, on senior Day, it's I'm sure they

625
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 4: were very disappointed that they couldn't have done a better

626
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 4: jubba than that defensive end.

627
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Speaker 1: Let me throw you, Bruce Weber's my guest from the

628
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: Big Ten Network, coach. Let me throw you something that

629
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 1: that I brought up yesterday. And you know more about

630
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 1: this game obviously than I, So I want you to

631
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 1: feel free to tell me if this is absurd or

632
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 1: if there's something to okay. I always say that offensive

633
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 1: line in the NFL, for example, that so much of

634
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: that has to do with continuity of guys understanding the

635
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: tendencies and the range of motion of their teammate next

636
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 1: to them, and then it becomes almost a muscle memory

637
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: of where gaps can be filled because you know that

638
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: guy is or is not going to be in certain space.

639
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: Purdue has a group of players that have played together

640
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 1: for a long time. But when you add an Oscar Cloff,

641
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 1: who's a very good player and filled a void for them,

642
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 1: I get that but he takes up such an operating

643
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 1: area in terms of his space. Could that actually throw

644
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 1: off the chemistry of guys understanding the tendencies of where

645
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 1: everybody is on the floor and interrupt the flow of

646
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Speaker 1: the continuity of a defense.

647
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and again, I Oscar has done some really good

648
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 4: things for them.

649
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Speaker 5: I mean you still think.

650
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 4: Back what they did to Alabama, what they did the

651
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 4: Texas Tech, some of those early games. I mean, what

652
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 4: they did to Wisconsin in January, you know's and he

653
00:32:58,440 --> 00:32:59,959
Speaker 4: was part of that, and he was rebound.

654
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Speaker 5: I mean, he played his butt off.

655
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Speaker 4: But there's no doubt it's changed the continuity of the team.

656
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 4: There's you know, I think it's really changed for Trey

657
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 4: coffin Rent he doesn't have the space he has. It's

658
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 4: easier to double team him because you've got two big

659
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 4: now that you know usually go big on big on

660
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 4: the trap. When they played a lot of small ball

661
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 4: last year, you know, then you didn't have that opportunity.

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Speaker 4: You had better spacing and you couldn't trap him. So

663
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,479
Speaker 4: and and then on the defensive end, you know, people

664
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 4: exploit uh, you know, their ball screens and get to

665
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Speaker 4: get them spread out and.

666
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Speaker 5: And it's made it tough on him.

667
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 4: And now again you look at Michigan, the best team

668
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 4: and not only in the league but maybe in the country,

669
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 4: and they play three bigs and and they're really.

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Speaker 5: Good at it.

671
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 4: So you know, I think it's you know, having another

672
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 4: big like cluff Is Is changed them. But you can't

673
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 4: play with bigs. And I think Dustin may has has

674
00:33:58,520 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 4: shown that.

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Speaker 1: When you look at Illinois, if you have a key

676
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: player coach that late in the year, that misses time

677
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Speaker 1: and then comes back from injury and is an integral

678
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Speaker 1: part of what you're doing, how long does it take

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Speaker 1: to kind of regain, if you will, the cohesiveness when

680
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,959
Speaker 1: guys come back off injury or miss time.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's kind of funny because I had them

682
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 4: early in a couple of games and they were going

683
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 4: through a lot of different things injuries bringing guys, and

684
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,800
Speaker 4: I even joked with Coach Underwood, you've done a great

685
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,359
Speaker 4: job of you know, just like every game every day,

686
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 4: if somebody knew they had illness, top Big Tommy was out,

687
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 4: you know, then they so Acovich was out, they and

688
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 4: they kept you know, it seemed like it ended up

689
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 4: always being a positive. And I am part of that

690
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 4: with Woggler he got moved to the point guard, you know,

691
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 4: but now they've lost a little bit of it since

692
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 4: Boswell's got back, you know, and you know, I don't

693
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 4: know if it's the spacing, is him handling the ball,

694
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,359
Speaker 4: I don't know if Wogler is you know, hit a

695
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 4: little bit of a wall for as a freshman. You know,

696
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 4: are just kind of a combination of all those and

697
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 4: playing really good teachings to you know what they you know,

698
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 4: they've had to play some pretty tough games and road

699
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 4: games in this last thretch, so you know, you add

700
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 4: them all together, they've they've hit a little bit of wall.

701
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 4: But I think everyone's hit a wall in the league

702
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 4: at some point.

703
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 5: You go down the line, and.

704
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 4: Even a Michigan they only have one loss, but they've

705
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 4: had some games where you know that they've they've not

706
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 4: played quite up to where they.

707
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,439
Speaker 5: Have at other times. So you know, that's just part

708
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 5: of it. And it's a long season. It's a marathon.

709
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 4: Now do you are you able to hit your stride

710
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 4: at the right time and get the right matchups?

711
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:46,800
Speaker 5: And that's the key, not only.

712
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 4: This weekend but also next week as we go into

713
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:50,800
Speaker 4: the NCAA tournament.

714
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: Okay, Indiana, they're in the tournament or they still have

715
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:54,879
Speaker 1: work to do.

716
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:57,399
Speaker 5: I think they still have work to do.

717
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 4: But I'm a positive for Hoosier fans. You know, I

718
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 4: just sit back and I don't study it, like you know,

719
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 4: some of Mike the Corsi and Sandy Katz and the

720
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 4: guys that are in the you know that we're talking

721
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 4: with in the green room.

722
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 3: But a lot of.

723
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 4: People around here feel very good about their chances of

724
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,439
Speaker 4: getting in. Obviously, it would really help if they beat

725
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 4: Northwestern today. And it's not going to be easy though,

726
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 4: you know, it was just a couple of weeks ago

727
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 4: that Northwestern beat them at their place. Northwestern is actually

728
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 4: playing pretty good basketball down the stretch. They haven't won

729
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 4: every game, but they've been in every game.

730
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 5: They just they had they.

731
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Speaker 4: Had a chance to beat Purdue recently, they had Minnesota

732
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 4: on the ropes and then they've won four of the

733
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Speaker 4: other seven.

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Speaker 5: So it is not going to be easy for the Hoosiers.

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00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: Look, I think and I think the world of Chris

736
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 1: Collins as a coach, though, you know what I mean,

737
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 1: Like they may have down years, but I think they're

738
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 1: always going to be at least well prepared because I

739
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 1: think he can flat coach, lastly coach before they go.

740
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Speaker 1: Bruce Weber my guest from the BTN, not big ten,

741
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 1: but I am curious your thoughts. Miami unbeaten in the

742
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,879
Speaker 1: regular season, should that alone merit them getting in?

743
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 4: I you know, I think it helps them and it

744
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:10,359
Speaker 4: gets them over the home.

745
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 2: You know that.

746
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 4: Obviously I was a mid major guy, and I'm four

747
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 4: mid majors. I was at Southern Illinois. We got at

748
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,359
Speaker 4: large bitch. You can go back and look. I think

749
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 4: was between me, Matt Painter and Chris Lowry. It was

750
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,439
Speaker 4: four out of five that we got at large Village,

751
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 4: which is not probably going to happen ever again for

752
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 4: a conference that size, you know, but we when you

753
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 4: say you couldn't get schedules, you know, get people to

754
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 4: schedule you. You can go back and look at the

755
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 4: year we went to the Sweet sixteen. We we had

756
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 4: to go all over the country to get games. No

757
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 4: one wanted to come to Carbondale, and you know, you

758
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 4: can't get there. It's hard, and but we played from

759
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 4: California out over to the Virginia and a bunch of

760
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,919
Speaker 4: places in between, and I think we had two home

761
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 4: games that year in non conference, so you know, and

762
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 4: and what happened we got in and at large bid,

763
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 4: so you know, again he's done an unlabbled job. It's

764
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 4: it's it's impressive to go undefeated. They've had to win

765
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 4: some close games, but you know, I think they're going

766
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 4: to get the nod to get in, but I still

767
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 4: I still worry about the schedule being a difference maker.

768
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Speaker 2: Coach.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate the time as always. Man, It's always great stuff.

770
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: And I know how much Dave enjoys working with you

771
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 1: and you guys covering all of it, and we will

772
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 1: enjoy watching all of it throughout this Big ten tournament.

773
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 5: Much appreciated, Thank you, appreciate it. Good to talk to you.

774
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:35,280
Speaker 5: Hopefully we get to talk.

775
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 4: Next week and the Hoosiers and the Boilers are in

776
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:38,240
Speaker 4: the tournament.

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00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 2: That's right.

778
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Speaker 1: We'd love to have you back on to nag it

779
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 1: all out and figure it out. Coach, appreciate it.

780
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:43,839
Speaker 5: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Chris Webber joining us on the Java House Cold Brew

782
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