1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:10,799 Speaker 1: Line from vall Hartbiner and the Crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:12,039 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today. 3 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 2: So, as the story goes, the White House is preparing 4 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 2: right now. 5 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: Mass firings in the federal government. No, just me. 6 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 2: I'm the only person who appreciates such things. I appreciate 7 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 2: you being with him. Real that was that was quick. 8 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 2: That was that was quick. Mass firings in the federal government. 9 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 2: This because the shutdown. Tony Katz, Tony Kats today. What 10 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 2: is going on? Find everything I do over at Tony 11 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 2: kats dot com. The live stream is happening, YouTube dot com, 12 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 2: slash Tony Katz. The shutdown is taking place because the 13 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 2: Democrats have not figured out that Trump doesn't care. 14 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: What you call him. 15 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 2: This is a Republican shutdown, and Republicans are creating a 16 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 2: healthcare crisis and Republicans are running scared at. 17 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: Blah blah blah, blah blah. You don't have the argument. 18 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: Here's what happened. 19 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:42,839 Speaker 2: The Continuing Resolution passed the House with bipartisan support because 20 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 2: the Democrat did vote for it. It's now in the Senate, 21 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 2: and you, Chuck Schumer, think you can hold things up 22 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 2: because you, Chuck Schumer, are convinced that you have some 23 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 2: kind of light to stand on, you have some strength, 24 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 2: that you are actually galvanizing people and engaging some level 25 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 2: of really smart politics against President Trump. 26 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: It's not happening. It's not happening. We're just not that 27 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: into you. And you are not a wartime consingliari. 28 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 2: You are weak, and Hakim Jeffries is weak, and that's 29 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 2: the best you've got. Republicans are running scared. Republicans are 30 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 2: pulling better than you on crime, on immigration, on the border, 31 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 2: on foreign policy, on gun control, which freaks me out. 32 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: Everywhere you go, everywhere you look, everything, every single turn 33 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: you make, you're losing Hakim Jeffries to the Republican Party. 34 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 2: And it doesn't matter what story it is everywhere you look. 35 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,839 Speaker 2: Shall we go through it again? Okay, let's go through 36 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 2: it again. 37 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 3: When Bertie Sanders first ran for the president presidency about 38 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 3: a decade. 39 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 1: Ago, that's not the clip I wanted. That's about representative 40 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: of Cossio Cortes and her favorables. This was the story 41 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: I wanted. What do you think, you know, what are 42 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 1: we seeing? 43 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 3: You know, Donald Trump being underwater Democrats and all this 44 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,679 Speaker 3: guarantees us we're gonna fly high in the mid terms. 45 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 3: Let me tell you this guarantees you nothing, nothing, because 46 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 3: at this particular point, the Democrats are the New Orleans 47 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 3: Saints of political parties. What are we talking about, trust 48 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 3: the Dems or GOP? 49 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: More on the economy? 50 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 3: Who leads on the economy, Republicans by seven immigration, Republicans 51 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 3: by thirteen. 52 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: How about crime? A big issue for Donald Trump? And 53 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: the Republicans. 54 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 3: Look at that lead by twenty two. 55 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: Twenty two points. 56 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 2: Then again the Democratic Party told us there is no crime. 57 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 2: Why is Trump talking about crime? Everything's great, all the 58 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 2: crimes down. We're doing such a great job. There is 59 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 2: no crime. No one ever heard of such a thing 60 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 2: as crime. You know what the crime is, Donald Trump. 61 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 2: That's the crime. If only somebody would do something about him. 62 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 2: Wink wink, nudge, nudge. We see you, political left, and 63 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 2: we're kind of grossed out, mostly amazed at how absolutely 64 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 2: disconnected you are from where the American people are. And 65 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 2: it's again proven in this idea of a shutdown. If 66 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 2: Democrats want to try and stop the Senate from voting 67 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,359 Speaker 2: on a continuing resolution, Democrats shut down the government. 68 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: And as I have said before, here is. 69 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 2: Now how I am going to spend my time if 70 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 2: there's a government shutdown. I just I'm very very clear 71 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 2: about these things. I do not get worked up. I 72 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 2: am now going to share with you how I will 73 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 2: spend my time if there is a government shutdown. 74 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: Cigar in hand, leaning back and begin. 75 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 4: Ah walm today, Walem yesterday, even walm of today. 76 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 1: Stewie said that Stewie's right for a baby. Stewie is wise. 77 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 3: Ah. 78 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:35,239 Speaker 1: That's how I'm gonna spend the shutdown. 79 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna spend any time worrying about it. You're 80 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 2: gonna tell me about how families aren't getting paid. 81 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: I hear you. You're gonna tell me how the military 82 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: families are gonna suffer. I hear you. I refuse to get. 83 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 2: Worked up about government shutdowns where I have political parties 84 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 2: like the Democratic Party more interested in the political victory 85 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 2: than they are in the country. If either of these 86 00:05:56,839 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 2: parties were worth a good holy damn, we'd have budgets 87 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 2: and not continuing resolutions. We'd have a plan, we would 88 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 2: be spending less, we would be paying down debt like 89 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 2: every family in America should be doing, living within our means. 90 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 2: But we don't have that so I refuse to get 91 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 2: worked up by that. And now what the White House 92 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 2: is saying is that the Budget Office is instructing federal 93 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 2: agencies to prepare reduction enforced plans for mass firings during 94 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 2: a possible government shutdown, and they want to specifically target, 95 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 2: as Sophia Kai I believe that's our pronouncial last name 96 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 2: from Politico wrote, targeting employees who worked for programs that 97 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 2: are not legally required to continue. So omb in this 98 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 2: move to reduce the government workforce, and there's a shutdown, 99 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 2: as a memo shared with Politico, escalates the stakes of 100 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 2: a potential shutdown. 101 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: Sure, stakes are escalated. 102 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:05,919 Speaker 2: I am fine with escalated stakes. I, however, would rather 103 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 2: we engage in the mass firings even if there's no shutdown. 104 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 2: I would appreciate it if we would. I like the idea. 105 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 2: I think we should go with that. I think we 106 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 2: should keep it up. Have we forgotten that dog was 107 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 2: a good idea? 108 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: Oh? 109 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 2: Trump and Elon Musk had to fight. Oh now, Elon 110 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 2: Musk is terrible. Elon Musk is the enemy. What kind 111 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 2: of crazy? He was never the greatest American hero because 112 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 2: his name wasn't William. 113 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: Kat and he's never the enemy. 114 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 2: He quite literally brought free speech to Twitter now x 115 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 2: because he said we could engage a conversation. 116 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: And the concept of cuts in the massive amount of 117 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: fraud was worthy. 118 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 2: Doge is a good idea. Why aren't we doing more 119 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 2: of it? Where are those recision bills that I was promised? 120 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 2: Here is the federal government. Here's Congress saying, Okay, we're 121 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 2: gonna spend on this, this and this, and here's what 122 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 2: we're spending. Well, what if we don't want to spend 123 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 2: that much. Well, it turns out they can't just say 124 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 2: we're not spending that much, we won't spend that much. 125 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 2: You have to have a recision bill, and you have to. 126 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: Claw back the dollars and say we're not going to 127 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: spend three billion dollars on this, We're going to spend 128 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: one point two billion dollars on this. 129 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:33,319 Speaker 2: Well, to do that, you need legislation, need the presidency 130 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 2: or the executive branch. I'm sorry, thank you to come 131 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 2: to Congress and say here, pass this legislation. 132 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:43,719 Speaker 1: Now, the White House, I believe, is trying. 133 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 2: To make the statement that the idea of a spending 134 00:08:48,720 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 2: bill that's the ceiling. It is not the facto that 135 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 2: has to be spent. 136 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 1: So this is the Trump administration argument. It's actually pretty interesting. 137 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: So I don't know how many of us ever asked 138 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: that question. If you tell me that there's a spending bill, 139 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:17,079 Speaker 1: we're going to spend a billion dollars on name, We're 140 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: spend a billion dollars on new shirts for Tony where 141 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 1: he has been a billion dollars on these shirts. Which 142 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: that's a nice budget. And we see that, we're like, 143 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: all right, we're spending a billion dollars, But we don't 144 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: ever ask ourselves, well, what if we buy the shirts 145 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 1: and only comes to seven hundred and fifty million dollars? 146 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 1: Are you telling me we have to spend the other 147 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty million? 148 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 2: Now in government circles, you understand how this works. An agency, 149 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 2: a group, an organization gets a budget of X. They 150 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 2: absolutely spend every penny of the budget, because what happens 151 00:09:58,200 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 2: if they don't you know, you know the answer. You 152 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 2: don't need to tell you what happens if they don't 153 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 2: spend it. Hold, we'll do it together on the Twitter 154 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 2: X at Tony Katz in the chat room. 155 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: You can answer the question. You have a budget of 156 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 1: let's let's say it's a billion dollars. 157 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 2: What happens if you don't spend the billion dollars, but 158 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 2: you only spend because you are able to find efficiencies 159 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,559 Speaker 2: and you're able to reduce costs, and you only spend 160 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 2: seven hundred and fifty million dollars, what happens at that moment? 161 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 2: You know the answer? The answer is, that's the weirdest 162 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 2: drum roll ever. 163 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: The answer is, next year you only get a budget of. 164 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:52,079 Speaker 2: Seven hundred and fifty million dollars, you will lose out 165 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 2: on the budget. You will get less next year. And 166 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:01,559 Speaker 2: so government being government, they can't have that. So they 167 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 2: spend their full budget and then they ask for an increase. 168 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 2: And that, kids, is how you get waste, fraud, and abuse. That, kids, 169 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 2: is how you have an ever growing government. 170 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 1: They not like us. 171 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 2: This is the difference between government and the private sector. 172 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 2: They aren't rewarded by the savings. They're punished for it, 173 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 2: and in order to ensure that they don't get punished, 174 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 2: they spend more. So you get punished and you pay 175 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 2: more tax dollars. I haven't said anything that you do 176 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 2: not already know nothing. So the question before us is 177 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 2: if a Congress appropriates a billion dollars for something, do 178 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 2: they actually have to spend the billion? What the White 179 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 2: House I believe is saying is that's a ceiling. That's 180 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 2: the most they can spend. What Congress or Democrats trying 181 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:00,319 Speaker 2: to say is none, No, No. 182 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 1: That's a mandate. That's what has to be. 183 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 2: Spent, which sounds kind of insane if that's indeed a mandate, 184 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 2: because it's saying there can be no efficiencies. We appropriated 185 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 2: a billion dollars, you appropriated it, Does that mean it 186 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 2: has to be spent? 187 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:20,439 Speaker 1: Yes? 188 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 2: What if we can do the same thing for forty 189 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 2: seven dollars and fifty cents? 190 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:25,079 Speaker 1: Spend the billion? 191 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 2: That is? This is no way to run a country. 192 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 2: That is absolutely no way to run a country. So 193 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 2: in order to bring the spending down right now, you 194 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 2: need the recision. Though where are they? Why aren't we 195 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 2: reducing the spending, Why aren't we doing more with DOJE, 196 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 2: and why aren't we talking about mass firings. I gotta 197 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 2: wait for a shutdown to engage the mass firings. 198 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 1: Let's go. 199 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 2: There are people working in government who don't need to 200 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 2: be working there, who provide no value, who give us 201 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 2: absolutely nothing. 202 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: I'm not interested in. 203 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 2: Paying them, and if they're offended by allow me to 204 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 2: be clear, how dare you be listening to this show 205 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 2: when you're on the clock on my tax dollar. I 206 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 2: know I'm entertaining as hell and I'm a fine looking individual, 207 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 2: but you gotta get back to work because you work 208 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 2: for me. I'm write in the check and I'm not 209 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 2: interested in you having a good time between nine and five. 210 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 2: Take your lunch break and get back to it. And 211 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 2: the lunch break, kids is over right now. 212 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: There is a guy who's driving a truck listening to 213 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: this show, and when he's done, he's gonna go to 214 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 1: his second job, and in between he's gonna hope to 215 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: catch an inning of his kid's little league game, or 216 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: maybe see his kid in passing and just ask him 217 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 1: how he's doing and how the homework's going. There is 218 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: a mom. 219 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 2: Who is gonna is listening to this show as she's 220 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 2: running errands for her family, and it's gonna come home 221 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 2: to take care of our. 222 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: Ailing mother and then make sure the kids are all set. 223 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:06,719 Speaker 1: They don't. 224 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,839 Speaker 2: They got to make every dollar matter. They got to 225 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:17,319 Speaker 2: make every cent count. They aren't rewarded for spending the budget. 226 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 2: They're rewarded for coming under the budget. And every time 227 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 2: Congress and in these agencies, I should say, are rewarded 228 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 2: for spending the budget and ask for more. 229 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: The budget of mom, and the budget of that guy 230 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: who's going to a second job gets a little bit 231 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: smaller because these people take I am not opposed to government. 232 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 2: I'm a fan of the liberty society, not the freedom society, which. 233 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: Is to say, I believe in the rule of law. 234 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 2: I believe in the guardrails, and I believe that we 235 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 2: should be giving up the very most minimal amount of 236 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 2: freedom ever possible to have a society like ours. There's 237 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 2: a difference between liberty and freedom. And every time these 238 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 2: people abuse, I get sick. So mass firings, okay. And 239 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 2: if that's all just a ploy to get Democrats to 240 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 2: vote for the continuing Resolution, okay, we'd be. 241 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: Better off with the mass firings too, and. 242 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 2: Sooner rather than later, mister President, Let's not waste our 243 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 2: time on this. 244 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: Let's get it done. I'm Tony Katz in this as 245 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: Tony Katz. 246 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 5: Today, autocracies now outnumbered democracies for the first time in 247 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 5: twenty years. Nearly three quarters of the world's population today 248 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 5: lives under autocratic regimes in too many countries, including sadly 249 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 5: right here in the United States, democracy is under siege. 250 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 2: Thank goodness, Hillary Clinton is worked to tone down the rhetoric. 251 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: In other news. 252 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 2: Why in the world is anybody paying attention to Hillary 253 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 2: Clinton as she stands there in front of a podium 254 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 2: that says Clinton Global Initiative. Did you see the podium? 255 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 2: Clinton Global Initiative? Twenty years of action? No, twenty years 256 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 2: of getting paid for doing nothing, which I guess, I 257 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 2: guess one could call action. 258 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to be with you. 259 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: Democracy is not under siege in the United States. This 260 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: is a lie, and they continue. 261 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 6: To push this lie, desperate to keep this going, desperate 262 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 6: to bring about, in my view, another lone wolf, another. 263 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: Attack, more violence. That's their desire. 264 00:16:56,480 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 2: In every single conversation, in every single place they're doing this. 265 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 1: I'm going to get into that in just a moment, especially. 266 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 2: Dear Lord, what they're talking about ice and this and 267 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 2: this madness gestapo talk. I will, I won't let you down. 268 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 2: I've got that story. And she continued, did she do 269 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 2: this Southern accent. 270 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 5: Our information ecosystem is broken. AI and social media are 271 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 5: super charging lies. Autocrats attack academia and the media, leaving 272 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 5: people vulnerable to manipulation and deeper polarization. 273 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 2: You sent out classified emails and then destroyed the server. 274 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. 275 00:17:54,280 --> 00:18:00,479 Speaker 2: Where the problem? You told us that we couldn't talk 276 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 2: about COVID vaccines. You told us we couldn't talk about 277 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 2: Hunter Biden's laptop. You lied about Russia, Russia, Russia, and 278 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 2: you sit there and you tell us about misinformation. 279 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: How does she do it? How does Hillary. 280 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 2: Clinton do this? She sits there with a straight face 281 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 2: and no, you cannot make face jokes about Hillary Clinton. 282 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 2: Don't do that, don't do that. Focus You know you 283 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 2: are a liar. You know this. You lied about Russia, Russia, Russia. 284 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 2: You planted the story and then got everybody else. Maybe 285 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 2: they felt like they didn't have an option to cover 286 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 2: for you. We know the story, we know the deal. 287 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:59,919 Speaker 2: We're the ones engaging in misinformation. You can't spell them 288 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 2: this information without Hillary Clinton. These people don't stop, they 289 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 2: don't rest, they don't quit. And somewhere out there, somebody 290 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 2: is donating to her, someone's donating to the stuff, giving 291 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 2: their money. I will tell you for anything that I 292 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 2: disagree with President Trump on. 293 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 1: I don't regret a single vote and keeping. 294 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:34,159 Speaker 2: Her out of the Oval office. History will record what 295 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 2: an unbelievable help that was to. 296 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 1: The future of America. This is Tony Kats today, like 297 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: you know. And then oh, we're going to be champions 298 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:44,880 Speaker 1: of free speech. They're tough on free speech. 299 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 7: That's why we only read the free press free speech, 300 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 7: something like free press is dead. 301 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 1: Free press for. 302 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,120 Speaker 7: Maga, it's like free press is what we say, free 303 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 7: press is right. And same thing with cancer culture. It's 304 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:01,719 Speaker 7: trying to feel a little better, but it consequence culture. 305 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 7: But it's cancel culture. Let's see how many late night 306 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 7: hosts we can cancel. Let's see how many professors we 307 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:11,880 Speaker 7: can cancel. Let's see how many people that we can 308 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 7: track down in their place of work that may not 309 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 7: have said something glowing about Charlie Kirk and get them fired. 310 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 7: Let's go after Pam Bondi, the Attorney General. Let's go 311 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 7: after Office depot if they don't print flyers. 312 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: You set the rules, Joe Scarborough, what are you angry 313 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: at us for? What are you angry at us for? 314 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: You set the rules? 315 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 2: The rules got set by the left and you gave 316 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 2: it a free pass. You and your pseudo intellectual show 317 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 2: at MSNBC. They set the rules. They said, you have 318 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 2: to decorate the cake, you have to make the cake. 319 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: They sued Masterpiece Cake Shop again. 320 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 2: And again and again and again and again and again 321 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 2: and again and again and again, over and over. 322 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 1: Anybody who didn't do what they want they sued. 323 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:05,400 Speaker 2: They attacked, they vilified, they ridiculed everything. You canceled people, 324 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 2: You destroyed lives, you destroyed futures. You did this, you 325 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 2: sat by while it happened. And now now that the 326 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 2: rules are being applied, now it's a problem. 327 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:21,199 Speaker 1: With all due respect, I sleep like baby. Oh my gosh, 328 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,120 Speaker 1: I cuddle up. I never actually sleep well, but I 329 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,640 Speaker 1: am trying to sleep better. But I get all cuddly 330 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: warm because I like it. I like a cold. I 331 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 1: like the room cold, and you slide under the covers 332 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 1: and warms up. You're like, oh, this is good. 333 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 2: This is That's how I feel when I hear people 334 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 2: like Joe Scarborough complain. You think this is about some 335 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 2: kind of unfairness. No, these are your rules, and you 336 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 2: are now living by your rules. We told you, hey, 337 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 2: these rules suck, and you said screw off their conservative 338 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 2: Republican maga. 339 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,439 Speaker 1: Disagree with us, loser, this is the way it is. 340 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: Ha ah, And they laughed, and. 341 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 2: Then we said, okay, in the words of Mitch McConnell, 342 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 2: you'll regret this. 343 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: And here we are. 344 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 2: By the way, the people who you canceled were people 345 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 2: who maybe said something shocking. The people who we said, 346 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 2: what's wrong with you are people who. 347 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: Laughed about the assassination of Charlie. 348 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 2: Kirk, or, in the case of Jimmy Kimmel, lied about 349 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:25,239 Speaker 2: who did it. 350 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 1: We should accept liars. 351 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 2: We should be thankful for people who cheer assassinations. Of 352 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 2: course they have. Free speech doesn't mean you get to 353 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 2: be on TV. Your boss may have a word. Tony Katz, 354 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 2: that's my name of the show is Tony Katz Today. 355 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 1: Good to be with you. It's like when Jimmy Kimmel 356 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: said at the end of that monologue the other day, 357 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,679 Speaker 1: shows like this should have the right to exist. We 358 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 1: don't say no to that. We say that no one. 359 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 2: Has to give you a show, no one has to 360 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 2: provide you an outlet. You can go talk on the 361 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 2: street corner. I like the idea of free speech. I 362 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,880 Speaker 2: want more free speech. Not less, but no one afforded 363 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 2: that to us when we talked about COVID vaccines or 364 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 2: Hunter Biden's laptop. Free speech didn't exist. Then now you 365 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 2: live by those rules, don't those rules suck? But even 366 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 2: without those rules, ABC doesn't owe you a show. And 367 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 2: it's weird that there are some celebrities who think that 368 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 2: ABC owes them a show. It's very weird and I 369 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 2: would like to see Disney tell those celebrities to shut up. 370 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 2: Disney should have said, WHOA, don't you threaten us? Four 371 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 2: hundred celebrities writing we won't appear here, we won't do this, 372 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 2: don't show up. We'll replace you all with AI right now, 373 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 2: which is what's happening. 374 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 1: Best of luck to you. The most insane thing about 375 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: celebrities is that they believe the hype. Never ever, ever, 376 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: ever believe the hype. Don't buy in. The minute you do, 377 00:23:56,600 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: you're lost. You have no connection, no tether reality. You 378 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 1: are just broken. You can't actually function. 379 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 2: And imagine what happens when you lose the celebrity, Because 380 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 2: there are people who are very famous and then they 381 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,119 Speaker 2: don't do anything for two years and then they're forgotten about. 382 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 2: Longevity is difficult, very very difficult. 383 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:22,160 Speaker 1: I mean, dear lord, what's his name is, Brendan Fraser? 384 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 1: Is that his name? Such a hot actor. 385 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 2: When he was younger, and then went through years of 386 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 2: nobody paying attention, and then he comes back with the 387 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 2: Whale and you're like, oh my gosh, that's right. This 388 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 2: guy is incredible, and so it goes, and so it goes, 389 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 2: and so it goes. 390 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: There's a lot of those stories. 391 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 2: Was anybody a hotter actress on the planet? Going back 392 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 2: to the nineteen eighties and then Shelley Long in Cheers 393 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 2: and she said, I'm gonna go have a movie career 394 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 2: and Cheers said we're Cheers, We're a juggernaut. 395 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 1: You're gonna make so much money. Don't leave it. 396 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 2: She said, sorry, everybody loves me and I'm gonna go 397 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 2: be a famous actress. 398 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 1: And well that was the end of that. 399 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 2: David Caruso, anybody, I mean, there's a list here, McLean 400 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 2: Stevenson said, I don't need mash. I'll go have my 401 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 2: own career without it. 402 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,360 Speaker 1: Okay. 403 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 2: My point to you is is not that there people 404 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 2: haven't left programming gone on to other things. It's that 405 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 2: when you're out of the public eye, and you've thought 406 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 2: yourself as important man. 407 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 1: That crash is something serious, something fierce. 408 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 2: And ABC understands, and Disney understands, and the studios understand that. 409 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 1: AI is here. 410 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 2: It is absolutely going to replace a bunch of these people. 411 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 2: They're writers, actors, voiceover artists, et cetera. So let them 412 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 2: let them say, how dare you? I have a standard 413 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 2: over there at ABC, and you don't let people lie 414 00:25:55,840 --> 00:26:00,080 Speaker 2: about who murdered who, who assassinated who, say forget you, 415 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 2: will replace you with AI. 416 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 1: But they didn't do that. 417 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 2: But to Joe Scarborough, you don't like cancel culture or 418 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 2: consequence culture. Maybe you should not have been such a 419 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 2: proponent of it. Maybe you shouldn't have been so silent 420 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 2: in it. Maybe your side because don't try and convince 421 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 2: anybody of your conservative bona fides. Maybe you just should 422 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 2: have said, you know what, we don't do this in America. 423 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 2: But my gosh, there's some really awful things being said here, 424 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 2: and let's discuss those awful things. 425 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 1: That's absolutely worthy. That isn't what happened. Now they live 426 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:35,120 Speaker 1: by the rules and. 427 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 2: They're very upset, and then they tell us that we 428 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,120 Speaker 2: need to tone down the rhetoric. 429 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 1: We need to tone. 430 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:50,880 Speaker 2: Down the rhetoric, right, right, We need to tone down 431 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 2: the rhetoric. Like Representative Promila Jiapaul. 432 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 8: We might call this getting strike ready. I think of 433 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 8: it as getting us strike ready or street ready. 434 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,160 Speaker 1: And part of that is understanding. 435 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 8: Our own strength, and as we develop that strength, being 436 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 8: able to assess our risk tolerance, because we know that 437 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:13,680 Speaker 8: risk tolerance increases as the severity of the situation increases 438 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 8: and as our own understanding of what's happening increases. So overall, 439 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 8: the more we understand what's effective, what the risks are, 440 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 8: and who's ready to participate, the more impact we can have. 441 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 2: Strike ready and street ready. Now, I've never heard strike ready. 442 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 2: I thought that was kind of a reference to union strikes. 443 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:33,360 Speaker 1: I wasn't sure. 444 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 2: But street ready, Oh honey, I know street ready. Boo boo, 445 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 2: I got street ready. I understand street ready. If you 446 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 2: think that that's just some standardized statement and not the call. 447 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,679 Speaker 1: To fight, you're out of your head. That is the 448 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:49,640 Speaker 1: violence call. 449 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 2: Just so we're all perfectly clear, tone down the rhetoric, Nah, 450 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 2: that's not toned down the rhetoric, not by any stretch 451 00:27:58,600 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 2: of the imagination. 452 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 1: Then there's Amanda Marcott. 453 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,880 Speaker 2: She's over there as a writer at Salon, and if 454 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 2: there is something disgusting to say, she's the one to 455 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 2: say it. And she writes off. Maga is fawning over 456 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:14,880 Speaker 2: Erica Kirk right now. 457 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,719 Speaker 1: But there's no way she can keep Charlie's audience his 458 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 1: bread and butter with sexualized humiliation of college girls, more 459 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 1: girls gone wild than doing politics the right way. A 460 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 1: woman can't pull it off. 461 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 2: Wow, she can't replicate his brand of gutter misogyny. A 462 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 2: couple of things here, just for the sake of clarity. First, 463 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 2: doesn't tone down the rhetoric. Secondly, I have argued, and 464 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 2: I would argue still that part of the reason people 465 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 2: came out to see Charlie Kirk on a college campus 466 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 2: was to absolutely bat around. 467 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 1: Like a cat with a mouse. 468 00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 2: These leftists, these progressives, who had only their motions and 469 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 2: had no thought behind what it is they're saying, no 470 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 2: core behind what it is that they're saying. That's absolutely true. 471 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 2: I think, guy, we're gonna go see liberals get the. 472 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 1: Snot kicked out of them. 473 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 2: That absolutely happened, and to say otherwise is laughable. However, 474 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 2: in doing so, two things were happening. Number one, anybody 475 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 2: could come to the microphone. 476 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: Men and women, and he wasn't screaming at you or 477 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 1: yelling at you. 478 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 2: Oh there are times where I could go over something, 479 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 2: he says, I wouldn't have said it that way. 480 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 1: I've done it this way. Sure, that's not the argument. 481 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: The argument is whether you were a man or whether 482 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 1: you're a woman, whether. 483 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 2: You're gay, whether you're straight, black or white, this that 484 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 2: or the other, you could step up to the microphone 485 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 2: and talk. And what makes anybody think that Erica Kirk 486 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 2: is going to be the one on the college campuses. 487 00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 2: Maybe her style and approach will be different. I no idea, 488 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 2: But his bread and butter was sexualized humiliation of college girls. Amanda, 489 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 2: I don't know if you're projecting there as if that's 490 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 2: something you want. I don't quite understand the statement. But 491 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 2: there's a lot of videos out there. They created a 492 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 2: lot of video and it was men and it was women. 493 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 2: So I think that this is a more of a 494 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 2: fantasy play. But turning points gonna keep on keeping on, of. 495 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 1: Course they are. Of course, they're going to keep going 496 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 1: every step away, and there will be things that I 497 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 1: agree with, the things that I disagree with, and that's rational. 498 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 2: This is turning up the heat. This is not a 499 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 2: tone down of the rhetoric. There is no tone down 500 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 2: of the rhetoric when it comes to the political left. 501 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 2: That isn't happening. And as I stated, I like the 502 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 2: moves being made regarding the dismantling of left wing groups 503 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 2: that incite violence. Going after who's getting the money to 504 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 2: groups like Antifa, absolutely positively should happen. 505 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,479 Speaker 1: Ten thousand percent. I value this. 506 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 2: But on the rhetoric side, there is no tone down. 507 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 2: It doesn't exist. There's no desire, there is no want, 508 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 2: there is no appetite. We take a look at the 509 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 2: Go to the shooting of Steve's scalise if you want, 510 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 2: Go to the assassination attempt on Donald Trump and Butler. 511 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 2: Go to the attempt at assassination there at mar A Lago. 512 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 2: Go to the murder of two Israeli embassy workers in Washington, 513 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 2: d C. In Nash, New Hampshire, someone killed at a 514 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 2: wedding while they were screaming Free Palestine. Same thing, it's 515 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 2: true as what happened to the two Israeli embassy workers. 516 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 2: The United Healthcare CEO, and look at the cheering of 517 00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 2: all of this, the assassination of Charlie Kirk and the 518 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 2: cheering of all this, the multiple attacks on ICE agents 519 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 2: in Texas and in other places, and the cheering of this, 520 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 2: there is no desire to tone down the rhetoric. And 521 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 2: then here comes Chuck Schumer to say that Donald Trump 522 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 2: is totally deficient in uniting the country against political violence. 523 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 2: It has to come from the top, and like so 524 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 2: many other things, Donald Trump is deficient in this, totally deficient. 525 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 2: And where do they say that on MSNBC with Joe Scarborough. 526 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 2: Trump's deficient in this. And MSNBC has all of the 527 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 2: people who are out there engaged in all the conversations, 528 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 2: not toning down the rhetoric. Maybe maybe you missed some 529 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 2: of it, but I've got it for you. And in order 530 00:32:55,920 --> 00:33:00,239 Speaker 2: to understand exactly how bad it is, we're gonna need 531 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 2: a We're gonna need a montage. 532 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 1: We're gonna need a mountain mountain. And in this montage, Ice. 533 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 2: Or they're gestapo, ICE is looking more and more like 534 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 2: an American gestapo. 535 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 9: They're huddled around the elevator banks in masks without identifying information. 536 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 1: What are terrifying like? These are Gestapo tactics, but it 537 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 1: has created this year as they've seen the kind of 538 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 1: fascist Ice Gestapo militias go around Latino American citizens in places. 539 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 2: Like La ICE agents masked ICE Gestapo agents getting more 540 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 2: funding than any other law enforcement. 541 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 1: Agency in the history of the United States. 542 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 8: ICE running gestopo like around our country. 543 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 1: The Gestapo had the same function. 544 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 2: It was there to draw distinction between us and them. 545 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 1: It was not batterally. It was controlled from the by 546 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 1: the leader, so understand it. And that was all MSNBC. 547 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:12,720 Speaker 1: By the way, all MSNBC commentators, there is no plan 548 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:19,360 Speaker 1: to tone down the rhetoric. None, And they're getting ready 549 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 1: for the streets. What was the exact. 550 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 2: Term that was used, bropa, Mila Jayapaul, strike ready and 551 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 2: street ready. 552 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,439 Speaker 1: Yeah. 553 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:34,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, you should expect more violence. Sadly, as I said, 554 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,400 Speaker 2: the only way out is through. I'm Tony Katz and 555 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 2: this is Tony Katz. 556 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 9: Today that the FDA announced we are going to approve 557 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 9: a drug called luca Vorren for the treatment of autism 558 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,280 Speaker 9: and it may help fifty to sixty percent of kids 559 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 9: with autism. What we have learned about autism in our 560 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 9: research since we were charged with identifying a cause or 561 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 9: the causes of autism is that one of the causes 562 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,799 Speaker 9: is that the receptor on the blood brain barrier that 563 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 9: allows FOLLY to be transported into the brain is blocked 564 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 9: by an antibody. In other words, autism may be an 565 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,720 Speaker 9: autoimmune disease for some kids. 566 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 1: That's doctor Martin McCary of the FDA talking about new 567 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,880 Speaker 1: advancements and new drugs available for autism. 568 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 2: I don't know if it's gonna work. I certainly hope 569 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 2: that it does. My connection to autism is very personal. 570 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 2: Having grown up with an autistic brother doesn't. 571 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:35,880 Speaker 1: Make me an expert. 572 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 2: But the idea that the Trump administration can discuss the 573 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 2: issue with aceta metaphine, which is backed up in studies, 574 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 2: and people. 575 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:48,719 Speaker 1: Are screaming, how dare you? This is all irrational when 576 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 1: we should be at this moment very much discussing this. 577 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,719 Speaker 1: Doctor Robert Malone joins me in the next hour to 578 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,319 Speaker 1: break down what the science is, what the facts are, 579 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 1: and what he thinks people should be doing. Keep it here. 580 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 1: I'm Tony Kats. This is Tony Katz today.