1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,160 Speaker 1: You were listening to the Best of the Fan Morning 2 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: show on ninety three five and one oh seven five 3 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: the Fan protecting. 4 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 2: Off and running out of Monday Morning there, Mark, how 5 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:09,799 Speaker 2: about that? 6 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 3: Well, this is inspired by Kevin talking about Joe Rule 7 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 3: and Nelly last week, and I was like, well, Nelly, 8 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 3: he's got some bangers. I don't know about Jow Rule. 9 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 4: As someone said, Jay Kwan made an appearance. 10 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 3: Jay Kwan saying tipsy and then lest what she did? 11 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 4: What do you do? Well? I mean, what more do 12 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 4: you need to say? That time you go? 13 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 3: I couldn't stand that song. 14 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 5: I was waiting for Kevin Paul out the band aid 15 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 5: right there and put it on his cheek all right. 16 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 2: Time to move on to the Indianapolis Cults in preseason 17 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:39,599 Speaker 2: game number two on the broadcast, Joe Wright's joining us 18 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 2: now on the Payless Liquors hotline. We all know Joe, 19 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 2: former Colts player and very popular guy here in the area. 20 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 2: Good morning, Joe, how are you doing? Are you a 21 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 2: big jaw Rule guy? 22 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 6: Big jaw Rule guy? I was maybe at you know, 23 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 6: seventeen or eighteen, but probably stopped about nineteen. But yeah, no, 24 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 6: he had a big concert with Nelly last and they 25 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 6: were rocking there over at Ruoff. There you go, Yeah, 26 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 6: a little jew everybody use little juice on Monday mornings, right, 27 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 6: A little bit tired, yes, a little bit sweepy rolling in. 28 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 6: So I do love Monday mornings though, because you got 29 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 6: to bring that high juice to start. 30 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 2: The week off right, no question about that. So I'll 31 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 2: ask you the same thing I asked each of our 32 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 2: Steam colleagues here, Kevin Bowen and James Boyd a moment ago, 33 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 2: where are you at on quarterback one right now? 34 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 6: Well, watching the game and calling it with Matt Taylor. 35 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 6: I thought both guys had one really good drive. And 36 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 6: you saw that drive and said, okay, this is what 37 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 6: the quarterback position should look like for the Indianapolis Colts. Now, 38 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:40,559 Speaker 6: they both had a couple of moments you'd like that back. 39 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 6: I think, you know Jones early on that quarterback center exchange, 40 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 6: which you rarely see, I think that rattle him a 41 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 6: little bit, and he missed the throne a warn the 42 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 6: next time. And then after Richardson had just a great 43 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 6: drive leading the team down the field, you know, then 44 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 6: he was a little bit behind on a couple passes 45 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 6: going there. So in my opinion. Both guys did good things, 46 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 6: but neither guys separated himself against the Green Bay Packers. 47 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 6: But if you listen to Shansteigen's comments postgame, you know 48 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 6: it sounds like he's close to making a decision. And 49 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 6: I don't think the game first, say, on Saturday afternoon, 50 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 6: is going to necessarily change maybe what his gut or 51 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 6: instinct was. So at the end of the day, that's 52 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 6: sort of it's a gut decision. It's you're taking everything 53 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,799 Speaker 6: that you know about Richardson, You're taking everything that you 54 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 6: know about Jones, and you experienced in the preseason from 55 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 6: OTAs through camp on a day to day process, and guys, 56 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 6: I still say that, you know, there's so much stuff 57 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 6: that goes on behind the scenes that we don't see 58 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 6: as fans. Right we see camp, we see the preseason games, 59 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 6: the joint practices. We're not sitting on the meetings when 60 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 6: they're going through film. They're talking through schemes and what's 61 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 6: your check and what you see from the defense here 62 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 6: and how do you think the safeties rolled coverage pre 63 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,239 Speaker 6: snap to try to decide it. So, but it sounds 64 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 6: like there's going to be a decision probably sooner than later. 65 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 6: And everybody keeps asking me, when do you need to 66 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 6: know as a player, I'm like, you need to know 67 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 6: when the head coach tells you to go. But I 68 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 6: would imagine that either you know before the game, you 69 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 6: know right after the game with Sincy, you're gonna have 70 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 6: your decision, and you're gonna have two weeks to get 71 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 6: ready for the season, and you're gonna roll with what 72 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 6: you got. But I think the good thing is there's 73 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 6: been a lot of competition, not only there but throughout camp, 74 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 6: and I do think that's raised both guys because you know, hey, 75 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 6: if I have a bad day or two, the other 76 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,399 Speaker 6: guy's going to get the edge and nothing will bring 77 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 6: out the best competitors, and all of us like having 78 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:23,799 Speaker 6: somebody right there that you're both competing for the same job. 79 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 4: Forty four career starts plus three in the playoffs. Show 80 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 4: rights with us here and then you heard him, of 81 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 4: course with Matt Taylor over the weekend on the Colts 82 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 4: Radio Network. Joe, you mentioned behind the scenes, and that 83 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 4: is probably a really good thing to point out. And 84 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 4: I know you can't really boil it down to this 85 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 4: simple with the quarterback competition, but as a player, and 86 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 4: obviously you didn't really deal with quarterback competitions, But as 87 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 4: a player, would you rather have the quarterback with the 88 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 4: higher floor or the higher ceiling. 89 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 6: That's a hypothetical question, and so I don't really have 90 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 6: an answer for it because I think they both bring 91 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 6: different skill sets. I think when you're talking about Daniel Jones, 92 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 6: I think you know again, you know, you say, Okay, 93 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 6: well he's played longer, he's got more experience. But Richardson, 94 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 6: I mean, he has so much talent and there's things 95 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 6: that Anthony Richardson can do that really no other quarterback 96 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 6: in the NFL can do. So I'm excited to see 97 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 6: what the decision is. I know that the guys, I'm 98 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 6: sure is exciting to And I think that's the other 99 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 6: thing too. I mean, you know, I'm not going to 100 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 6: speak to anything, and I don't know anything, but I 101 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 6: would imagine that there's guys in the locker room that 102 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 6: are going to Shane stiking too and saying, hey, you 103 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 6: know what about this? What do you think about this? 104 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 6: And you know, Shame said it's going to be a 105 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 6: culative decision and he's going to get input from a 106 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 6: lot of people. But the end of the day, he's 107 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 6: going to make it. So the fact though, that you 108 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 6: have a head coach that's a quarterback guru or quarterback 109 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 6: whisper or whatever you want to call it, I think 110 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 6: that's an advantage too. 111 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 7: Right. 112 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 6: It's different than if your head coach is a defensive 113 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 6: coach and you know, maybe he didn't play the position. 114 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 6: But you know, if anybody's going to have a beat 115 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 6: on what they want and what they want this offense 116 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 6: to look like, it's going to be somebody that's got 117 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 6: all the quarterback experience, play calling experiences, somebody like Shane Steigen. 118 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 5: Joe beyond the quarterback play. One of the biggest developments 119 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 5: I thought from that game was just some of the 120 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 5: injury the injuries that took place throughout Saturday's game, and 121 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 5: unfortunately for Blake Freeland that involved a serious ride leg injury. Obviously, 122 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 5: you played this game, you played, you played on the 123 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 5: offensive line, But what did you think of just a 124 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 5: team's reaction to coming out there and kind of giving 125 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 5: him some words of encouragement through obviously what's going to 126 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 5: be a difficult, you know road ahead. 127 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, first off, you feel horrible for Freeland because you 128 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 6: see the play happen, and when you're engaged with the 129 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 6: d lineman like that and you get rolled up on, 130 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 6: I mean, it just looked really bad from the start, 131 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 6: and then they bring the card out. I did think 132 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 6: it was really neat, kind of touching that the whole 133 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 6: team went out there and was talking to him and 134 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 6: you know, patting them on the chest and dapping them 135 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,559 Speaker 6: up and praying for him, and uh, that just shows 136 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 6: I think the closeness of this team. And so yeah, 137 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 6: unfortunate for Freeland. You know, guys played played a lot 138 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 6: of snaps for the Colts. But you know, that's the 139 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 6: thing about football, It's the brutality of the sport is 140 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 6: the game moves on. And I do think that Jalen Travis, 141 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 6: who played pretty much whole game at left tackle, I 142 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:03,679 Speaker 6: thought he did some really nice things. He plays mostly 143 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 6: right tackle. During camp, I thought he held his own 144 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 6: at left tackle, and so it looks like he's going 145 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 6: to be your swing guy. But I was excited about Travis. 146 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 6: He's a big man, he's a strong man, and I think, 147 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 6: you know, when you look at the Colts draft and 148 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 6: think about it, I mean, Warren is I had high 149 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 6: expectations for Warren and they're even beyond that now. Just 150 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 6: watching him play, I mean, he's gonna bring such a 151 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 6: different dimension to this Colts team. Then you go to 152 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 6: the second round and JT. I thought he's played really 153 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 6: well during camp. He's flash ding games both in the 154 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 6: run in the past. Wale unfortunate for him because he 155 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 6: was having such a good camp and Lyon really to 156 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 6: be the starter. But anything about Travis DJ Giddens, he's 157 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 6: the guy who wanted to highlight too on the show 158 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 6: because he's got a patience and a vision for running 159 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 6: backs you don't often see in rookies. There was one 160 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 6: play Saturday when he had the ball and most guys 161 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 6: are just gonna take it and run it, he kind 162 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 6: of set it up. He was patient a little bit, 163 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 6: almost had his hand on the offensive lineman following his blockers. 164 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,919 Speaker 6: So again, Uh, it's early in terms of the twenty 165 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 6: twenty five NFL Draft, and I always laugh when the 166 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 6: day after people give draft game draft grades. It's like, 167 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 6: how do you know this team? These guys are gonna 168 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 6: be good. No, nobody's played a snap yet. But I 169 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 6: do think that the twenty twenty five draft is setting 170 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 6: up to be really solid for the Indianapolis Colts. 171 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 5: Hey, Joe, you know I love my post draft grades, 172 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 5: my mock draft that are always wrong. This is you 173 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 5: know this, this is what you know. Keep the lights 174 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 5: on at that time of the year. 175 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 6: What was your grade? 176 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 5: I have no idea I can even tell you what 177 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 5: these grades are. And I laugh. People tell me like 178 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 5: this is so pointless, and it's like, well, if you 179 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 5: saw numbers and the clicks, man, you would know why 180 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 5: we do it. But in all seriousness, going back to 181 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 5: Tyler Warren, I know you said that you were high 182 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 5: on them. What made you, I guess a bit more 183 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,559 Speaker 5: convinced that he'll be an impact player as a rookie? 184 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 5: Is it just seeing it happen in a game setting 185 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 5: the last two weeks? 186 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, he dominated college, but I think his 187 00:07:56,640 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 6: physicality has been more than I thought at the NFL level. 188 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 6: And just how fluid he is route running. He's just 189 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 6: got a knack for finding ways to get open and 190 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 6: he's so big his catch radius and being fluid and 191 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 6: running routes. I mean, you know, the Colt's tight end 192 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 6: production was thirty two out of thirty two in the 193 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 6: NFL last year. But when you think about him, Moally. 194 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 6: I think Will Mallory has had a quiet, really good 195 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 6: training camp and that's a position that the Colts need 196 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 6: to get a lot more production this year, and you 197 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 6: fully expected to led by number eighty four. 198 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 2: Always good to talk to you, Joe. Great job this 199 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 2: past weekend. We appreciate your thoughts and hope things go 200 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 2: well for you all week long. 201 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:36,439 Speaker 6: All right, sounds good. Well, thanks for having me on fellas. 202 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 2: There you are. He might be might at one point 203 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:40,839 Speaker 2: in time, for a brief moment in time, been the 204 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:42,479 Speaker 2: biggest jar roof in Indianapolis. 205 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 4: Right now, I could see Joe Wright's having a time 206 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 4: or two up at Deer Creek back in the day. 207 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:47,719 Speaker 5: I just love how he said he was a jaw 208 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 5: wu fran for all of like eighteen months. 209 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 4: Seventeen year old, fifteen years old is what he went 210 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 4: with there. Yes, one final job roll party before you're 211 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 4: off the Western Michigan. 212 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 2: That's exactly how it works. Anything that he said that 213 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:02,119 Speaker 2: sparked your interest. 214 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 5: There, I agree with the DJ Giddens assessment. I think 215 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 5: that he's shown some stuff throughout preseason, and really he's 216 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 5: a bit more of a complete back than I thought. 217 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 5: I think coming out In my mind, I'm like, oh, 218 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 5: this's got called a lot of passes in college. He 219 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 5: give me the third down back. But my understanding is 220 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 5: that they believe he can be, you know, a guy 221 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 5: who can play more than just on third downs, and 222 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 5: he can contribute as a runner more so than just 223 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 5: as a pass catcher out of the backfield. So you 224 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 5: saw some of the vision that he has, and I 225 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 5: think that he's trending up right now. 226 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 4: Yeah. When Chris Ballard has compared him before to Marlon Mack. 227 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 4: When he said that, I was like, wow, that makes 228 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 4: a ton of sense. When I watch DJ Giddens run, 229 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 4: I definitely think a little bit of Marlon Max. So yeah, 230 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 4: running back wise, you know, Jonathan Taylor and DJ Giddens 231 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:47,839 Speaker 4: are obvious and then James who knows. I mean that 232 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 4: Tyler Goodson injury, I felt awful. I wrote something on 233 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 4: our website. You know ten guys that I thought really 234 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 4: had a nice camp and improved their stock, and to me, 235 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 4: Goodson was one of them, and so I felt bad 236 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 4: for him that he got hurt among others on Saturday again, 237 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 4: right now, I mean, if I go through this fifty 238 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 4: three a man roster I could probably count twelve thirteen 239 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 4: guys dealing with injuries that I would have to make 240 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 4: the team. That's a huge number. And again, roster cuts 241 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:18,839 Speaker 4: a week from Tuesday, we're less than three weeks away 242 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 4: from the start of the regular season. Obviously, some of 243 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 4: those guys are going to get back, but some of 244 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 4: them you're gonna have to factor in. Oh wait, how 245 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:26,439 Speaker 4: long are they out? Do we put them on ir 246 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 4: to come back? Are they going to be back within 247 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 4: the first four weeks of the season. It's a lot 248 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 4: of roster gymnastics for Chris Bauer and Chainstyken and company 249 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:36,079 Speaker 4: here over the next eight days. 250 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 2: All right, we'll get some of your text line thoughts 251 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 2: coming up in a few minutes here, but also over 252 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:44,199 Speaker 2: the weekend and yesterday specifically, Indiana Fever got an incredible 253 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:45,839 Speaker 2: comeback win, which we talked a little bit at the 254 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:48,559 Speaker 2: beginning of the show Down twenty one. They come back 255 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:52,199 Speaker 2: and they beat Connecticut on the road. But another key injury, 256 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 2: and we don't know how bad it's going to be. 257 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 2: James Boyd, you saw the injury with Sophie Cunningham. We 258 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 2: all know what the worst possible could be, like an 259 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 2: acl or something like that. But how many injuries can 260 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 2: this team withstand and keep plugging on. I mean, I 261 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 2: think that's one of the reasons Stuffing Right was so 262 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 2: emotional in her postgame comments and in the locker room 263 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 2: l after the game last night. 264 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, And one of the things I try to do, 265 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 5: I don't really speculate on injury is we don't know 266 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 5: how serious or non serious it is. We'll have to 267 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 5: wait and see what the team says. So that's my 268 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 5: opinion on the nature of the injury. But yeah, I 269 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 5: thought that they responded pretty well. They were dead in 270 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 5: the water therefore a large portion of that game, and honestly, 271 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 5: they made it more difficult they probably had to be. 272 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 5: And I get that some of that probably is like 273 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 5: the mental side of it. We see another player go 274 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,959 Speaker 5: down and having a rally. But that would have been 275 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,959 Speaker 5: a horrendous loss against the Connecticut Sun, and obviously it 276 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 5: turned out to be a very big win for this 277 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 5: team because one thing, the Connecticut son are terrible. They're 278 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 5: not a good team at all, one of the worst 279 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:55,079 Speaker 5: teams in the league, if not the worst. They actually 280 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 5: are the worst team in the league. So having two 281 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 5: losses to him on your resume would have been a 282 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 5: hard one to get over. So then on top of that, 283 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 5: just looking at the standings, man like, it is very 284 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 5: very tight right now. The Fever are currently in the 285 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 5: sixth seed right now, one half win or half win 286 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 5: or half game over the Golden State Valkyries, and you know, 287 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 5: they're they're right there between being in the playoffs and 288 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 5: out of the playoffs. So I think that's a huge 289 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 5: when for this team, let alone the schedule coming up, Kevin. 290 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 5: I know you've probably taken a peek at it, but 291 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 5: they've got some really good teams on the horizon. So 292 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 5: that one last night I think was a big, big 293 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 5: win for them because it does not get any easier 294 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 5: for this team. And not saying it was easy last night, 295 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 5: but yeah, it doesn't get easier. 296 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. I think honestly, the Stephanie White emotion post game, 297 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:41,679 Speaker 4: you know, I don't know, maybe a little bit of 298 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 4: it is going back to Connecticut, but I thought it 299 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 4: was just so layered in everything that transpired yesterday. First off, 300 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 4: you have Sophie Cunningham go down on what looked to 301 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 4: be an awful injury. Will await word on that, and 302 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:57,679 Speaker 4: you're thinking to yourself oh bleep, How the bleep is 303 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:02,199 Speaker 4: this happening again? Like, yeah, it's unbelievable that the Fever 304 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:04,719 Speaker 4: continue to have these injuries, and you know, they look 305 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 4: to be serious injuries with Art McDonald and Sidney Colson 306 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 4: and all of that, and then the unbelievable comeback and 307 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 4: Kelsey Mitchell showing why she's one of the greatest players, 308 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 4: probably on the very short list of greatest players ever 309 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 4: to play for the Fever. Honestly, she's probably right behind 310 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:26,319 Speaker 4: Tamika catchings. And then you'd think about the standings like 311 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:28,439 Speaker 4: that that win, if you were to lose that game, 312 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 4: that's three in a row, and James, you know you 313 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 4: just pointed out kind of cause not good. You know, 314 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 4: these would fall into the categories of like, oh my gosh, 315 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,199 Speaker 4: when's Caitlyn coming back? When is she not coming back? 316 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 4: You know, like one of these of you know, Stephanie 317 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 4: White sain pregame yesterday, I hope she comes back for 318 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 4: the end of the season. Well, James, anytime I hear 319 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 4: our coach say hope, I hope to go play augusta 320 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 4: national something. 321 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, I saw a lot of different reactions to that. 322 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 5: Kevin about you know, oh my gosh, she's coming back 323 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:54,199 Speaker 5: like very soon, so oh my gosh, she's off the 324 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 5: rest of the season. But the truth is her comments 325 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 5: yesterday were no different than what we've heard, which is 326 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 5: that she's out and definitely and we'll just see you 327 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 5: from there. 328 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:03,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it just you know, in the NFL 329 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 4: right now, I think we're dealing with this a little 330 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 4: bit with Matthew Stafford situation. Yeah, I mean, it's just 331 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 4: a lot of uncertainty around when is going to be 332 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 4: the return for Caitlin Clark this week. They don't play 333 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 4: till Friday, so you have a practice Wednesday and a 334 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 4: practice Thursday. To me, those would be day two circle 335 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 4: on the calendar for her. You know, we're at a 336 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 4: month now post injury here, so does she get out 337 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 4: there this weekend because again, their regular season is starting 338 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 4: to come to a close there. So amidst all of 339 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 4: it and the Sophie Counningham injury being the biggest news, 340 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 4: I did think that postgame locker room was was pretty cool. 341 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 4: You know, a regular season win. To see the emotion 342 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 4: that Stephanie White had, you don't typically get that in 343 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 4: pro sports. 344 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 5: And then next up they have Minnesota at home, they 345 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 5: have Minnesota on the road at her home. They got 346 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 5: you know, Los Angeles Sparks who had that number of 347 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 5: this season, Golden State Vakyriz who smoked him at home 348 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 5: earlier this year. So that was a huge win last 349 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 5: night because it does not get any easier opponent wise 350 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 5: for the rest of the way. 351 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 2: All right, Uh, we've been talking about Stephanie White and 352 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 2: how emotional she was. There was a clip that The 353 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 2: Fever put out of her talking to the team after 354 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 2: the game and just talking about how proud she was. 355 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 2: But just listen to her voice, and you know what 356 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 2: this team is starting to mean to her. 357 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 5: So are you. 358 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 8: I'm so proud of you, guys. I know that sometimes 359 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 8: it sounds like when we talk about being resilient, but 360 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 8: it's not, man, it's how we live. It's how y'all live. 361 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 8: And it's a tribute to you. It's a tribute to 362 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 8: your connectedness, your togetherness, your your your toughness, your mindset. 363 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 8: You never give up gritty attitudes like that's what it takes, 364 00:15:54,200 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 8: that's what it takes. We will never never be it 365 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 8: out because that it's worth goal. That is worth go kels, 366 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 8: God damn big. Put us on your back, Oh big 367 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 8: time breezing. You are the consummate professional. We love you, 368 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 8: we appreciate you. You were huge ad point forward, It's like, look, 369 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 8: you can't underestimate what it means to have somebody like 370 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 8: her who just does whatever we ask, right, does whatever. 371 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 5: I mean, everybody really likes. 372 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 4: That was a huge. 373 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 8: Gotash your activity all and that's what it's gonna take. 374 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 4: Hey, that's what it's gonna take. 375 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 8: We gotta play free, we gotta. 376 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 4: Play with no pressure. 377 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 8: But we fight live that idiots every day and we 378 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 8: will accomplish what we want to accomplish. 379 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:11,159 Speaker 2: Okay, so there you go. Obviously very emotional afterwards. I'm 380 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:14,400 Speaker 2: ready something to do with the enjoy the win. You're good, 381 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 2: I'm contesting. I'm ready. I'm ready. 382 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 5: I'll run through a brick wall for Stephanie White after 383 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 5: hearing that. But no, that was awesome. I think that's 384 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 5: a good reminder there, Jeff, of what sports means people. 385 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 5: And it's not just the money the attention of fame. 386 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:29,439 Speaker 5: I think sometimes you can get lost in that. But that, 387 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 5: to me was a speech given by someone who's loved 388 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 5: basketball her entire life, and she's responding to a group 389 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 5: of women who have rallied, competed and done it in 390 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 5: a way that is very endearing. It reminds me of 391 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 5: the Pacers, where it's the underdog kind of spirit. We're 392 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 5: never really out of it until it's over. And yeah, 393 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 5: dare I say that they have done some special things 394 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 5: this season in spite of Kitlin Clark's injury, so big 395 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 5: one yesterday and then again, I just feel so good 396 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:58,679 Speaker 5: for Kelsey Mitch who's playing meaningful basketball after you know, 397 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 5: some dog dog Daisy years really with this franchise, so 398 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 5: special stuff. 399 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. So the combination of thirty four O or thirty 400 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 2: eight after halftime for Kelsey Mitchell and that togetherness that 401 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 2: Stephanie White talks about. Our key to the game. Brought 402 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:14,120 Speaker 2: to you by the Hubert Automotive Group. 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Those are the words at the 408 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 2: end there of Shane Steike and talking about his quarterback situation. 409 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 2: Good morning and welcome into the Fan Morning Show, Kevin Bowen, 410 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 2: James Poyd, I'm Jeff Rickert along with Mark Dyketon, and 411 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 2: we'll get some of your comments on the fan text 412 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 2: line in a moment here at two three nine ten seventy. 413 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 2: But Kevin, I'll say for those just joining us, and 414 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 2: we talked about this about a half an hour ago. 415 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 2: Listening to those comments by Shane Steike, and it sounds 416 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 2: like he just wants to talk to a few folks 417 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 2: this morning. It feels like just the tone in his voice. 418 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 2: I've had three weeks of this, I'm close. Maybe he 419 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 2: just wants to get some feedback at this point in time, 420 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 2: and maybe he gets talked into let's look at him 421 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 2: one more time this week again. Who knows? 422 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 4: Mean part of me here's that and thinks, James Tomorrow 423 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 4: eleven fifteen am Shane Steak and meets the media, does 424 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 4: he announce it? Does he tell the guys today and 425 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 4: announce it tomorrow? 426 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, A part of me thinks that if he tells 427 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 5: the guys today, we might see a leak today and 428 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 5: then tomorrow he would officially address it. But that would 429 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 5: be my thinking behind it. I mean day off yesterday, 430 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 5: everyone I do want to know? I thought about this 431 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 5: driving in today. Actually, like, what do you do if 432 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:27,919 Speaker 5: you're a quarterback and the day's off, you're not going 433 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 5: to hear anything? What do you do? Just sit in 434 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 5: your like living room and just with the lights off 435 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 5: and just think about, Oh my gosh, it all comes 436 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 5: down to this. So what do you do? Do you hang 437 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 5: out with your family? Do you tell everybody leave me alone? 438 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 4: Show up a Shane's house playing with those kids? 439 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 5: And yeah, you know, is there anything else? 440 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 4: I'm serious? 441 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 5: But do you know of anything else you could. 442 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:47,399 Speaker 4: Throw the football? 443 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 5: Do you kidnap a couple of the wide receivers and 444 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 5: say hey, let's go do something together and then if 445 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 5: you don't get the job, you tell them, well you 446 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 5: can walk back? Or how did that go? 447 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:58,199 Speaker 2: I think the correct answer is you go home, you 448 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 2: watch film, and you take no and study the playbook 449 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 2: and get ready for your next practice, right, and. 450 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 5: Yeah you probably have to, but it is I'm very 451 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 5: curious to hear, and I think Anthony has been more 452 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 5: open about it. Just the nature of that, you know, 453 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 5: the the duality of having to be a good teammate 454 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 5: had to be ready, but also realizing that man if 455 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 5: I don't get this opportunity. I'm gonna be very disappointed. 456 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 4: Did you think Anthony sided or reserved after the game 457 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 4: Saturday to like, I don't think I have this job? 458 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 4: Am I reading way too much in Anthony Richardson's words 459 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 4: post game? 460 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 5: I think so. I think he's kind of been like 461 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:37,640 Speaker 5: that since he honestly was bench last year. Since he's 462 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 5: come back, he's been a lot more, in my opinion, 463 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 5: from that down to earth and sort of grounded in 464 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:45,679 Speaker 5: a sense that he wasn't before. And I'm saying he 465 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:47,439 Speaker 5: was like super arrogant before, but I think that there 466 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 5: is a sense of humility and a sense of mortality 467 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 5: where it's like, oh, everything isn't necessarily in my fingertips 468 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 5: all the time when I wanted to be. So I 469 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 5: think that he just he's taking like the more mature 470 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 5: I've learned some things approached, But deep down I think 471 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 5: he knows, you know, I want to be the guy 472 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 5: and I need to be the guy. 473 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 4: There is part of me. It sits here and you know, again, 474 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 4: it sounds like a decision is very eminent, and we 475 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 4: just watched the last three weeks unfold. Anthony Richardson did 476 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 4: not miss a single team practice session. Yes, he did 477 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,360 Speaker 4: obviously leave the Baltimore game early, but didn't miss a single. 478 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 2: Team also wanted back in no too right, say it again, 479 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 2: he wanted back into that game too. 480 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 4: I don't really think that that matters too much, but 481 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 4: you know, again his fault for the injury leading to 482 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 4: him exit the game. He doesn't miss a single practice. 483 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 4: Wrap of the two quarterbacks, he led the only touchdown 484 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 4: drive in the preseason, and the touchdown drive he led 485 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 4: I thought was the exact type of drive you want 486 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 4: to see from him. Twelve plays, ninety yards, methodical, right arm, 487 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 4: you know, just boom. 488 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 5: He kept it going amid a couple of penalties too, 489 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 5: that brought him back right. 490 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, he played from behind the chains a few times, 491 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:57,439 Speaker 4: five or six on the drive. I would argue the 492 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,080 Speaker 4: one in completion probably wasn't even his fault, just you know, 493 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 4: a genial vashion deal and thought the ball was coming 494 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 4: or what so. And yet I sit here right now 495 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,640 Speaker 4: and I think Shane Steichen's gonna pick Tangel Jones, which 496 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 4: is got it good? 497 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 5: Can you elaborate on that? And is okay? So I've 498 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 5: heard you say this, and I was talking to Stephen 499 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 5: Holder about this after the game as well, and he 500 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 5: has me thinking that man could say, you really choose 501 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 5: Daniel And one of his reasons was because of the 502 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:29,199 Speaker 5: comments made after the game about the operational part of 503 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 5: being a quarterback And is that part of why you 504 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 5: think he might lean in that direction because a lot 505 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 5: of it isn't just pure throwing. If that makes sen. 506 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought Chane emphasized that a couple of different 507 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 4: times post game. And again, James, what is the one 508 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 4: word he's used since March? 509 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 5: Consistency? 510 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,439 Speaker 4: That has been the word he has always come back to. 511 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 4: And you know, we had Joe wrights On a little 512 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 4: bit ago. You know, I asked Joe, Okay, what would 513 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 4: you prefer as a player? Would you want the quarterback 514 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 4: that off you a little bit of a higher floor 515 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,880 Speaker 4: or would you want the quarterback that offers you more 516 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 4: of the ceiling? And it seems like when they drafted 517 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 4: Anthony Richardson it was all about the latter. For the Colts. 518 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 4: It was, Yeah, you got to create big plays and 519 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 4: you need someone that can offer, you know, the stuff 520 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 4: you can't drop on a white board and when everything 521 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 4: breaks down, can you make that play? I eve Anthony 522 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 4: Gould throw that Anthony had on Saturday, but now it 523 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:31,199 Speaker 4: seems like it is shifted towards No. We've done that 524 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 4: song and dance, and right now I need a quarterback 525 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:38,439 Speaker 4: that I can largely trust. And I think that Baltimore 526 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 4: play of how Anthony Richardson got hurt, I could just 527 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 4: see that mattering a whole lot to Shane Stige, and 528 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 4: I don't have a strong conviction, to be clear either way. 529 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,679 Speaker 4: I would start Richardson. I think you need clarity and 530 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 4: you need to stop with all the excuses and figure 531 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 4: out if you got something or not. That's the path 532 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 4: I would go down. But in Shane's eyes, he just 533 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 4: has always talked like more the Jones guy, I think 534 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 4: throughout this offseason, and maybe I'm reading too much of 535 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,199 Speaker 4: a man who says very few words, but that's how 536 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 4: I felt. Do you not feel that way, James? 537 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 2: Would you? 538 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 4: Do you think Shane Stichen will say who I guess 539 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 4: to just put it blown, I think he'll say Anthony Richardson. 540 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:15,679 Speaker 4: Do you think he'll be Richardson? 541 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 5: And I think it will be Richardson. And I think 542 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 5: that because again I go back to not necessarily what 543 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 5: he's his words have been because I, like you said, 544 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 5: trying to pars through Shane Stichen's words, there are not 545 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 5: many of them, and I feel like whenever I do that, 546 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 5: I could talk myself either way. But my general thinking 547 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 5: is kind of along the lines of what I think 548 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 5: me and Jeff and really all of us have said 549 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 5: throughout these last two weeks on the show is that 550 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 5: if it's close, you would think you leaned towards the 551 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 5: guy you drafted number four just a few years ago, 552 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 5: because in my opinion, Daniel Jones has done nothing to 553 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,880 Speaker 5: win the job. Now I won't say that he's done 554 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 5: like anything to lose the job necessarily, but Ty goes 555 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:54,360 Speaker 5: to the runner. Ty goes to the guy you had 556 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 5: here already. 557 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 2: In my opinion, yeah, I go back and it didn't 558 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 2: count because my guy Mitchell messed it up. But the 559 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 2: play that he made it just it's tantalizing. 560 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 6: Right. 561 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,360 Speaker 2: He is big and strong and athletic enough to get 562 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 2: away from a sack and then he put the ball 563 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 2: on the money. What thirty thirty five yards downfield? 564 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,919 Speaker 5: Right the thirty game they got negated by Adie Mitchell 565 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 5: being off sides. 566 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 2: Yes, I don't know. Can Daniel Jones do that. 567 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 5: I think he can in some instances. I'm not saying 568 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 5: that throw in particular. 569 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,919 Speaker 4: But Daniel Jones ain't making that that play. 570 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 5: You know, I meant like just to down the field 571 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:33,679 Speaker 5: stuff like we saw him pushing down the field for 572 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 5: example with Tyler Warren. But again, you say that Daniel 573 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,199 Speaker 5: Jones ain't making that play, which I'm not arguing that, 574 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 5: but like, do the Colts think they need need their 575 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:43,439 Speaker 5: quarterback to make that? 576 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 4: Well, that's kind of what I was getting at, is 577 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 4: what like Jeff brings up that play. I would think 578 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 4: the thing that resonates more Shane Styke and leaving Saturday though, 579 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 4: is Anthony Richardson did lead again a very methodical touchdown drive. 580 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:00,400 Speaker 4: Like that's where you want to see growth that play 581 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 4: he made Anthony Gould. We know Anthony Richardson can do that. 582 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,439 Speaker 4: He has done that in the NFL. It's more of 583 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,919 Speaker 4: the reverse of it. I thought, honestly, one of the 584 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 4: things I was struck by postgame two and James, you 585 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 4: asked Daniel Jones's question, James, what Daniel Jones has spoken 586 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 4: to the media. What do you think eight times here 587 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 4: in his Colt career six times in his Colts career. 588 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 4: I don't think I've walked away one time thinking wow, 589 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 4: that was interesting. And then postgame he says this and like, 590 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 4: I don't know if he meant it in this manner, 591 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:34,959 Speaker 4: but James and corigt me are wrong. You asked him 592 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 4: something to the effect of like, hey, what do you 593 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 4: think you've done to earn the job? 594 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,400 Speaker 5: Yeah? You know, I basically said, what do you think 595 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 5: you've shown the coaches to make an argument? To be 596 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 5: qb one? I mean, because he keeps tap dancing around 597 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 5: the competition. Every time we ask him directly about it. 598 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 5: He's just like, Oh, I'm just here to compete and 599 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:51,400 Speaker 5: be a good teammate. 600 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 4: Bomped that. 601 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 5: I'm like, I'm not trying to hear that anymore. You 602 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 5: came here to take somebody's job. Have you done enough 603 00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 5: to do that? 604 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 4: On more money Minnesota? For say exactly, that was my question. 605 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 4: Here's what he had to sell. And just one more 606 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:09,880 Speaker 4: additional thing for context. Here his answer. It almost sounded 607 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 4: like he was literally saying, what are Anthony Richardson's weaknesses? 608 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,120 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, let me say that out loud. And here's 609 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:18,120 Speaker 4: Daniel Jones. 610 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 9: Just tried to show up every day and improve grow 611 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 9: in my understanding of the offense, and and make good 612 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 9: decisions consistently. I think that's been something I've I've always 613 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:33,239 Speaker 9: tried to do and uh, and we'll continue to work on. 614 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 9: But I think consistent decision making and uh, you know, 615 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 9: throwing the ball accurately accurately, I think that's a huge 616 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,880 Speaker 9: part of playing the positions. You know, that's something I've 617 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 9: tried to do. 618 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's an undeniable asset in the National Football League. 619 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 2: There's no question consistent decision making, throwing the ball accuracy 620 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 2: accurately is a huge part of playing the position. If 621 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 2: you had to sit there and say, what are two 622 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:02,399 Speaker 2: things you have questions about with Anthony, you would say, well, 623 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,919 Speaker 2: inconsistent decision making and throwing the ball inaccurately. 624 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:07,880 Speaker 5: Right. 625 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 1: I just when Daniel Jones said that out loud of like, 626 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,159 Speaker 1: that is unbelievable that I don't know if he was 627 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,679 Speaker 1: trying to do that, but he's not, Like he's not 628 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 1: wrong in the answer. 629 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 4: No. I just found it hilarious that the guy that 630 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:27,160 Speaker 4: again has not said anything interesting for six months says 631 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 4: that seemingly forty eight hours before we're about to get 632 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 4: this quarterback decision. 633 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 2: And again it seems to be high ceiling but low 634 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 2: floor versus high floor and low ceiling. It feels like 635 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 2: that's that's your choice right now, James. 636 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 5: Fun time, I was gonna say, I don't know what 637 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 5: else to really, you know, Okay, here's my other thing 638 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 5: I wanted to get into. 639 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 2: This is a. 640 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 5: I don't know if I'm just bored in the media 641 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 5: because I get sick of people, you know, giving you 642 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 5: these cliche answers. Oh, Anthony, it's not up to me. 643 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 5: I get the job, thank god, if I don't got 644 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 5: to keep working. Yeah, but like you want the job? 645 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 5: And so do you think either quarterback would have been 646 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 5: a little bit more definitive in their answers? But why 647 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 5: they we should about why they should be the starter? 648 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 5: If they had done more to be the starter, Like 649 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 5: do you think we would have gotten anything else? Because 650 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 5: I feel like both guys are saying, like, you know, 651 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 5: I knew I didn't do a whole lot to maybe 652 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 5: impress you, but like I'm not even better than that guy, right, 653 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 5: Like again, that's not like. 654 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 4: Go to in dating that guy, right. 655 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 2: Aaron Tuxson says that he pictures Shane Stikeen as the Bachelor, 656 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 2: wondering who to give the Blue Rose to. 657 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 5: I'm serious though, but like, will we have gotten some 658 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 5: more definitive kind of like from either guy? Because either 659 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 5: guy is like, well, you know, I'm just trying to 660 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 5: get better every day, and I'm like, well, have you 661 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 5: gotten any better. 662 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 4: To play the bachelor? Sort of analogy there, that's Daniel 663 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 4: Jones grabbing shaanesychings, Hey can we go out to the 664 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 4: fire just one last time? I got one more thing 665 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 4: I need to say, And hey, can I steal you 666 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 4: from a minute's ways? 667 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 2: Do you know what's really going on right there? 668 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 4: Can I take you to Ralston's for a date on 669 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 4: mass Ave? And you know I'm gonna I'm gonna throw 670 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 4: these comments and like that. That's what it felt like. 671 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 4: I'm jotting this downmore having Daniel Jones say those comments. 672 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 4: What what do you guys think of? Again the question 673 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 4: that I threw, Joe writes internally in that locker room, 674 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 4: what do they want? The higher floor of the higher ceiling. 675 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 4: If you were a player in that locker room, Let's 676 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 4: say you're Jonathan Taylor, would you rather have the higher floor? 677 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 4: Theoretically in Jones or the higher ceiling theoretically and Richardson. 678 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 2: I feel like I'd want the guy who has the 679 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 2: chance to have the higher, higher ceiling to again, who 680 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 2: hasn't had a ton of opportunities, A lot of reasons 681 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 2: why not getting into that, But I feel like I 682 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 2: want to roll with Anthony Richardson, and well, it just 683 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 2: becomes untenable before it's two la. I mean, you don't 684 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 2: go three four games, But do you see if he's 685 00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 2: made don't you want to see if he's made a 686 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 2: step forward at some point with as much as you've 687 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 2: invested him in and everything else. And again, Shane Steigen 688 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 2: might feel like his job's on the line. I gotta 689 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 2: I can't worry about this guy's future. I gotta worry 690 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 2: about my future and the immediate future. And again, we 691 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 2: look at a team that was eight and nine last year, 692 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 2: that probably led a couple of games slip away James 693 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 2: and better decision making and taking care of the football 694 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 2: in certain situations may and maybe some better field goal 695 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 2: kicking and some key points. Maybe that makes you all 696 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 2: of a sudden, you go from eight to nine to 697 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 2: either nine and eight or ten and seven. Do you 698 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 2: look at it that way with some of the additions 699 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 2: and upgrades you've made on defense. 700 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's part of it. That's certainly in 701 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 5: the conversation. Man. I think if I'm in that locker room, 702 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 5: I probably want ar mainly because one, he's been there longer, 703 00:31:56,560 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 5: I have layship with him, and you've seen glimpses of 704 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 5: what it looks like when it clicks. And I go 705 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 5: back to the Jets game last year. If there's any 706 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 5: Ar truthers out there, they're gonna look at that game 707 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 5: and say, you really want to pass? Do you really 708 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 5: want to pass this up? When's the last time Daniel 709 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 5: Jones had a game like this? And it probably goes 710 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 5: back to twenty twenty two when he had one of 711 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 5: those games against the Colts ironically, But I also wonder too, though, 712 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 5: when it comes to Anthony, like after he got his 713 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 5: finger messed up in the preseason opener, how many guys 714 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 5: in that locker room thought, you know what, this guy 715 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 5: always gets hurt. 716 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 4: Well, that would be the counter to it, James, is 717 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 4: if you're a guy in the locker room, and let's 718 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 4: just speak to that play for a second, you're one 719 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 4: of those guys that was out there. DJ Giddens on 720 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 4: that play, or Tyler Warren on that play, or you know, 721 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 4: probably I should go with a little bit more of 722 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 4: a veteran. You did everything right on that play. Ten 723 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 4: of you were on the same page. One of you 724 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 4: made the mistake, and it could if that's a real game. 725 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 4: Let's say that ball it's yard loose. So ten offensive 726 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 4: players are on the same page, and yet you just 727 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 4: had a stripsack in your own territory against a team 728 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 4: that you're probably a touchdown underdog against. That is disastrous 729 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 4: when you speak from an NFL game point of view. 730 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 4: So I could see the locker room, like our our 731 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 4: poll to start of the camp mark was what eighty 732 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 4: five percent Colts fans won. Richardson, Yes, that that locker 733 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 4: room to me would be a lot closer to fifty 734 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 4: to fifty. Like, yeah, I can hear you, Jeff of like, yeah, 735 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 4: you know, higher ceiling and you know healthy offseason and 736 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 4: the play to Anthony Gould, you know Daniel Jones isn't 737 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 4: making that. Yes, then if you're a part of that 738 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 4: locker room and you watch the play against Baltimore, you're thinking, 739 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 4: wait a minute, we all sit in the same meetings 740 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 4: and ten of us are on the same page, but 741 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 4: you're not, and that just costs us a football game. Yeah, 742 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 4: you can. 743 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 2: Would you be so let me put it to you 744 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,480 Speaker 2: this way, Would you be surprised by the announcement of 745 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 2: either guy tomorrow? 746 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 4: No? No, I know either guy. I mean, James, I 747 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 4: don't know if you've probably done this, but I'll probably 748 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 4: at some point today. Right, both guys have been named 749 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 4: the starter articles. So like Kevin at three h five, 750 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 4: it's one of those situations where like I could see 751 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 4: it being both ways. Yeah, I definitely could. And for 752 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,839 Speaker 4: those curious about the Colt schedule this week, they will 753 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 4: practice Tomorrow Wednesday, Thursday. Believe we actually still get to 754 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:25,840 Speaker 4: watch the full practices, right James. 755 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:27,760 Speaker 5: Yes, I got that clarified with Colts PR. 756 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 4: So I put this. They're back at their own facility, 757 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 4: we get to watch the full practices. And while Shane 758 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 4: hasn't committed to a date per se, obviously, he said 759 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 4: on Saturday that he's close to a decision, it wouldn't 760 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 4: stun me if he announced that tomorrow before their first practice. 761 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 4: So again, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, off to Cincinnati Friday, and 762 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 4: we'll await what the preseason finale plan will be against 763 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 4: the Bengals. 764 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 3: July twenty third, I tweeted on the show account do 765 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 3: you want the Colts starting who? Do you want the 766 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 3: Colts starting quarterback? 767 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:55,839 Speaker 6: To? Being? 768 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 4: Twenty twenty five? 769 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,799 Speaker 3: Eighty two point four percent, said Anthony Richardson, You think 770 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,439 Speaker 3: that's any different? Like a little over a month later, 771 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 3: almost a month later, if I put that tweet out, 772 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 3: I'd probably say it might be more more in favor 773 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 3: of AR at this point. 774 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I don't. I don't think that would change overwhelming. Again, 775 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:15,400 Speaker 4: I brought it up more from a locker room, so 776 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 4: like if you asked that same question mark to the 777 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 4: locker of truth here, you know what would be that 778 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,400 Speaker 4: A I think you would have a heavy divide within 779 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 4: that room of what they would want. And what does 780 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:28,759 Speaker 4: that do for the locker room too? 781 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 3: If like the guy that you prefer doesn't get the like, 782 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 3: are you gonna play any different? 783 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 8: Yeah? 784 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:35,800 Speaker 4: Pissed off? Well part of me? 785 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 9: Thing? 786 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 5: Nah, I don't think so. Honestly, I think if you 787 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,319 Speaker 5: are a true professional in that locker room, and let's 788 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 5: say they pick Daniel Jones and you're an AR person, 789 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 5: you're probably thinking, well, he had his opportunities and now 790 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 5: we got to go win. 791 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,880 Speaker 4: Well, and and you got your own freaking job to 792 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 4: worry about it exactly. If you play defense for the Colts, 793 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 4: there's you've contributed to Gus Bradley getting fired. And if 794 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 4: you play the offensive line for the Colts, right now, 795 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,120 Speaker 4: I think you've got a little bit more questions about 796 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:00,439 Speaker 4: that group. 797 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 2: Then I thought, oh, now you're speaking my language, Mark Dayton. 798 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 5: Oh this is the plist. 799 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 2: This isn't the playlist. I like this, this good stuff. 800 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 4: All right? 801 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:14,760 Speaker 5: Thanks for an artist. 802 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if that can but I know 803 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 2: I listened to it a lot. 804 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 4: What is it, Mark? Who is it a game? 805 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 3: Well, this is a fifty unit remix, but yes, i'll 806 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,799 Speaker 3: do the game in fifty But yes, very good. 807 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 2: A lot of the time I'll hear it with my wife. 808 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 2: She likes she really likes a lot of that music. 809 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 2: She'll play it and I'll just prooved it. 810 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:32,799 Speaker 6: I like it. 811 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,400 Speaker 2: I'll tell you another guy that we grew to. It's 812 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,800 Speaker 2: a victory Monday too for the Indiana Fever. So we 813 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 2: got another victory Monday. Tony East covers The Pacers and 814 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 2: the Fever and he joins us now in the Payless 815 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 2: Liquors hotline. Good morning, Tony East, how you doing today? 816 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 7: Good morning, I sincerely hope I am not in anyone's playlist, 817 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 7: but have it here. 818 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 2: Well, you're here today, You're on our playlist. We appreciate that, 819 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,440 Speaker 2: you know. We we we saw in a Fever come 820 00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 2: from behind win over a team that's not all that good, 821 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 2: but they match up apparently well with the Fever because 822 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 2: they give them fits every time they come up with 823 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 2: an overtime win over Connecticut ninety nine ninety three. They 824 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,279 Speaker 2: were twenty one points down and we saw a very 825 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:15,440 Speaker 2: emotional Stepphannie White post game in the locker room. And 826 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 2: I would imagine that that emotion comes from perhaps another 827 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,440 Speaker 2: big injury coming. We'll find out today to Sophia Cunningham. 828 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,359 Speaker 2: But Caitlin Clark's been out for fourteenth straight games. We've 829 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:28,000 Speaker 2: had injury after injury after injury. What did you make 830 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:29,719 Speaker 2: of her postgame remarks? 831 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 7: Yeah, it was not surprising, I suppose, but I just 832 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 7: it did strike me that how emotional she was after a. 833 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:37,800 Speaker 4: Game like that. 834 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 7: I mean, the sun, the sun stink, right, And I 835 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 7: think that that the fact that she came to the 836 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:46,359 Speaker 7: presser with that, you know, intense passion after a win 837 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 7: like that, it says a lot about the state of 838 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,919 Speaker 7: affairs for the team that I mean, they just keep 839 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 7: dropping like flies. 840 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:53,800 Speaker 6: That would be their fourth ball. 841 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 7: Handler from this season that is out if Cunningham's going 842 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 7: to miss any time, Like that's like all the right, 843 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 7: It's just Kelsey Mitchell left basically, and obviously they filled 844 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,880 Speaker 7: them more now. So to be in that situation where 845 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,440 Speaker 7: you know, she's she's telling us she was like swearing 846 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,520 Speaker 7: internally when when Sophie goes down and they have whatever 847 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:16,120 Speaker 7: thirty one points halfway through the third quarter and then win, 848 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,400 Speaker 7: like you know that that's a coal like everything coalesces 849 00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,360 Speaker 7: to to finally play the way they hoped they could 850 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 7: for whatever that was, to close the game seventeen minutes, 851 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:27,880 Speaker 7: and you know, it could not have come at a 852 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,479 Speaker 7: better time. Like they looked really bad at home last 853 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,400 Speaker 7: week again, some not great teams, the Sun or the 854 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 7: worst team in the league. 855 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:33,879 Speaker 4: By a record. 856 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 7: They're not like a terrible worst team, but they're pretty bad. 857 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 7: You know, they needed to find a way to do 858 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,319 Speaker 7: that and for the players to respond the way they 859 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 7: did and play the way if you hope they can 860 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:45,960 Speaker 7: without Clark like they have at times this season, Like 861 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 7: that's what a coach hopes to see her team do. 862 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:51,320 Speaker 7: And obviously it took Kelsey Mitchell super heroics, but it 863 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 7: was awesome to see you know how much that that 864 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,799 Speaker 7: win meant, especially on the day when everything else went 865 00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 7: their way standings wise, So that I mean, that was 866 00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 7: a huge, huge, huge day for the Fever, despite them 867 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,040 Speaker 7: beating a team that everybody thought they should beat anyway. 868 00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:10,720 Speaker 4: Tony hat tip, I thought the mother bleeping adjective used 869 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:14,800 Speaker 4: in a tweet to describe Kelsey Mitchell yesterday was very needed. 870 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:16,920 Speaker 4: So great work with that. I won't say it here 871 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:18,479 Speaker 4: to save my John. 872 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 7: I save that word for like once a year, so 873 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,920 Speaker 7: you know it means something when it comes out, like, 874 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 7: oh yeah, thirty seven point a half for w player 875 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 7: is crazy. That was unreal. 876 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,160 Speaker 4: You met the moment like she did with that tweet. 877 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,680 Speaker 4: So great work by Tony East on that. Okay, Caitlyn 878 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:38,560 Speaker 4: Clark update, nothing today, nothing tomorrow. On the floor Wednesday 879 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 4: Thursday practice, Stephanie White says the hope is she will 880 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 4: be back before the end of the regular season. I 881 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,720 Speaker 4: start to get nervous. If we get through this week 882 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,600 Speaker 4: and there's nothing on the floor, would you be nervous too. 883 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 7: I would agree with that, Like I don't necessarily know that, 884 00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,080 Speaker 7: I would say, oh, she's gotta play by this week, 885 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,320 Speaker 7: you know, for whatever reason, I'm. 886 00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 4: Not saying playing to be clear, I'm saying she needs 887 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 4: I think. 888 00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 7: Yes, totally agree like they and this is the time, 889 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:08,400 Speaker 7: right because you know they have four days to to 890 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,400 Speaker 7: have the on ramp kind of happen towards you know, 891 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,200 Speaker 7: we finally hear three on three or five on five 892 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 7: or just something where a basketball is being drible and 893 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:18,239 Speaker 7: she's wearing a fever kit. 894 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:19,400 Speaker 4: You know, at. 895 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 7: Practice would because you have a chance to really do it, 896 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,319 Speaker 7: Like this is a big league for them to work 897 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,400 Speaker 7: in Odyssey Simms. And if they get another hard to 898 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,400 Speaker 7: player because the gun hand, that's great, But like Clark 899 00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,160 Speaker 7: is the thing to focus on in practice this week 900 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,680 Speaker 7: if they can, and like they have a lot of 901 00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:36,759 Speaker 7: road games to close their season. Obviously they play the 902 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:38,879 Speaker 7: leagu's at home this week, but you know that they 903 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,520 Speaker 7: have Seattle like the following weekend and a couple of 904 00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:43,319 Speaker 7: other home games. Were's like maybe this is the time 905 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,959 Speaker 7: it makes sense if it's going to happen, and would 906 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 7: you have a random like They've played I think the 907 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:49,479 Speaker 7: most games of any team in the league. 908 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:50,360 Speaker 4: I'd have to double check that. 909 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,319 Speaker 7: I believe that there are ten games left with the 910 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 7: fewest of anybody, And so that does and in theory 911 00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,279 Speaker 7: now give them a chance to have practice time, which 912 00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,440 Speaker 7: is so rare this late in the season, and they 913 00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,320 Speaker 7: have to use it to if they can get Clark 914 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 7: some practice time on the floor so her return and smoother. 915 00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,440 Speaker 7: And so I agree that if we hear nothing of 916 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,680 Speaker 7: the sorts of you know, on the hardwood dribbling doing 917 00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,320 Speaker 7: something throughout three, five and five, that's when I'd do that. Huh. 918 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,319 Speaker 7: Maybe that hope is just hope. But if something does 919 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,720 Speaker 7: come up, then then that'd be great for them because 920 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,759 Speaker 7: they've been everybody this year. At some point they they're peak. 921 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:24,279 Speaker 7: Shows they have a chance, but they needed to play 922 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:25,040 Speaker 7: to have that chance. 923 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,360 Speaker 5: Tony, how big was that win yesterday? And I'm not 924 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,440 Speaker 5: saying that as a cliche because of the fashion in 925 00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,759 Speaker 5: which they did it, but just knowing where they are 926 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:36,120 Speaker 5: in the standings and who's up next on the docket, Yeah, 927 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:36,640 Speaker 5: I mean. 928 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:38,880 Speaker 7: They're they're scheduled the rest of the way. If you 929 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 7: check you Tankathon has remaining strength to schedule. They have 930 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:46,080 Speaker 7: the hardest strength of schedule by like five percentage points 931 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:49,719 Speaker 7: of opponent win percentage, Like it's much harder than anybody 932 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,440 Speaker 7: else's And that's why this whole this last four games 933 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,320 Speaker 7: they played, they played the worst four teams in the 934 00:41:55,400 --> 00:42:00,399 Speaker 7: league by record. They played DC, Connecticut, Dallas, and I'm 935 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,640 Speaker 7: missing one for the Chicago, Like they needed to clean 936 00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:04,719 Speaker 7: up in that stretch. They did not do great, but 937 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:06,799 Speaker 7: that's why they needed that win so bad, like to 938 00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:10,360 Speaker 7: get any sort of cushion before their schedule gets harder, 939 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,160 Speaker 7: like this week they just play the Leaks and Colliers 940 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,399 Speaker 7: status is improving, and that's the best team in the league, 941 00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:17,400 Speaker 7: Like buy a good amount. 942 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:18,319 Speaker 6: They're amazing, and. 943 00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,239 Speaker 7: They play lots of good teams the rest of the 944 00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,839 Speaker 7: way if they're gonna hold off other teams or even 945 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,920 Speaker 7: keep up. Like it's so hard to talk about what 946 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,480 Speaker 7: their goals should be because they're kind of equidistant from home 947 00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,719 Speaker 7: court advantage and just straight up missing the playoffs. But 948 00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:33,680 Speaker 7: I think their goal should be to make it first 949 00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:35,840 Speaker 7: and foremost. If they're going to do that, they need 950 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,360 Speaker 7: to win games. They need to win probably twenty three games, 951 00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,919 Speaker 7: twenty two games would be my guess, and winning five 952 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,640 Speaker 7: of their last ten would be like pretty impressive given 953 00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:47,280 Speaker 7: how challenging their schedule is, and so giving themselves an 954 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,600 Speaker 7: extra win before that was just so huge already, and 955 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,280 Speaker 7: they got every result they needed yesterday. The Valkyries lost, 956 00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,480 Speaker 7: the Storm lost, the Sparks somehow lost in the Mystics, 957 00:42:56,560 --> 00:43:00,359 Speaker 7: joining the Fevers trend from Friday, So the perfect time 958 00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,239 Speaker 7: to get a win like that in terms of like 959 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,440 Speaker 7: confidence and as we saw with Stephanie might postgame like emotion, 960 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,560 Speaker 7: combining it with the losses front of the teams, the 961 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,360 Speaker 7: Fever upcoming schedule, like they really really needed it and 962 00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,360 Speaker 7: they got it, and now they have four days to 963 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,439 Speaker 7: kind of regroup and hope some of those teams lose again. 964 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,759 Speaker 2: Tony Aast host the Locked On Pacers podcast. You can 965 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:23,799 Speaker 2: also see his work in Forbes, ESB Nation, Bleacher Report, WTHR, 966 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:28,560 Speaker 2: other various publications. He covers both the Pacers and the Fever. 967 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:30,480 Speaker 2: Move on to the Pacers real quick. I think we 968 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,600 Speaker 2: talked about this just for a minute last week, but 969 00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:35,720 Speaker 2: as tyrese Haliburton moving on without crutches in the scooter 970 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:36,600 Speaker 2: at this point in time. 971 00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 7: Yeah, he sure said it. He did a great job 972 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,080 Speaker 7: of making his He's the only guy who would make 973 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:48,399 Speaker 7: his no crutch, no boot picture of Puma thing. But yeah, 974 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,200 Speaker 7: he's got his new shoes, he's got no crutches. I 975 00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,440 Speaker 7: will miss seeing him scoot around. It was quite funny 976 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:53,920 Speaker 7: to see. 977 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:55,360 Speaker 4: But that's good news. 978 00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,719 Speaker 7: I mean, that's where the recovery kind of should be 979 00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:01,040 Speaker 7: at this point, and on your feet and moving. It 980 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,160 Speaker 7: was funny to hear him talk about how challenging the 981 00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:07,319 Speaker 7: most random tasks are at his house. But yeah, on 982 00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,520 Speaker 7: the men, that's good, even though he's not gonna play 983 00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,080 Speaker 7: this year obviously, any sort of recovery update from him 984 00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,880 Speaker 7: that's positive and moving in the right direction, that's goodness, Tony. 985 00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:18,160 Speaker 4: Anything you care about schedule release wise, we saw it 986 00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:21,440 Speaker 4: come out last Thursday. Anything stand out to you from 987 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,799 Speaker 4: a Pacers standpoint, as we're still a little over a 988 00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:24,919 Speaker 4: month away from training camp. 989 00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:27,600 Speaker 7: Yeah, this is this is a cool thing in the 990 00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,000 Speaker 7: schedule this year. They don't randomly go to Europe for 991 00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,040 Speaker 7: a week in the middle of it, so that's that's 992 00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:34,400 Speaker 7: a lot better than last year. But they all the 993 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,960 Speaker 7: same Pacers the advantages they usually get, right, They traveled 994 00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:41,200 Speaker 7: the fewest miles of any team because they're so close 995 00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,759 Speaker 7: to their division opponents, and they have the fewest back 996 00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,000 Speaker 7: to backs, and I think they have tied for the 997 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:50,319 Speaker 7: fewest rest disadvantage games this year, like their opponents in 998 00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,920 Speaker 7: them will be even in terms of how they're feeling 999 00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,399 Speaker 7: and traveling at worse for much of the season, which 1000 00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,279 Speaker 7: is good, right if you're a team that is going 1001 00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,560 Speaker 7: to be scraping by and trying to make you know, 1002 00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,000 Speaker 7: the play in At least on paper it looks like. 1003 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:03,680 Speaker 6: And that's good. 1004 00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,160 Speaker 7: You want all those vintages built in. But no, nothing 1005 00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:10,400 Speaker 7: super standoutish. They play eighty games, and they play the 1006 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:12,759 Speaker 7: eighty teams that everybody thought they'd play. They're only weird 1007 00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,440 Speaker 7: part of their schedules that like mid January through mid 1008 00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:17,640 Speaker 7: February rush with the trade headline in the middle of it, 1009 00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:20,640 Speaker 7: where it's like a baseball schedule five road games, four 1010 00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,560 Speaker 7: home games, six road games consecutively. But outside of that, 1011 00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:27,080 Speaker 7: it's it's nothing so shocking or different than any normal year. 1012 00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:31,560 Speaker 5: Tony, which Pacers player will be the best Colts quarterback? 1013 00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:33,200 Speaker 7: Oh Man. 1014 00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,319 Speaker 2: Didn't see that one coming, did you No. 1015 00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,919 Speaker 7: I'm used to the opposite, like which Colts play would 1016 00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,200 Speaker 7: be the best on the Pacers? Which is Moiley Cox 1017 00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:43,920 Speaker 7: is still on the Colts, right, It's always him, it's 1018 00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,400 Speaker 7: the answer. Yeah, yeah, he's always the answer for the inverse. 1019 00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:48,560 Speaker 7: I can't believe I didn't know if he was still 1020 00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:50,600 Speaker 7: on the team or not. The best football player. 1021 00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:52,840 Speaker 4: You said quarterback specifically. 1022 00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:54,640 Speaker 5: Yes, quarterback. There are the compeences are going on. I'm 1023 00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:57,320 Speaker 5: just thinking if we got to go across the street 1024 00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,840 Speaker 5: to game Bridge to pick up a quarterback to start 1025 00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:01,760 Speaker 5: about week one, who are you picking? 1026 00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:02,960 Speaker 4: What's like? 1027 00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:06,200 Speaker 7: What's the typical Yeah, I was gonna say, Halburn's got 1028 00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,319 Speaker 7: a lot of the trades, right, what's the typical quarterback hip? 1029 00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:10,120 Speaker 7: Like six four? Right about? 1030 00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:10,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1031 00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,440 Speaker 5: About six four? I would say, I think you can 1032 00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:13,920 Speaker 5: meet a little bit more weight than Halibird. 1033 00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:17,960 Speaker 7: No, he might be too thin for I'll. 1034 00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:21,040 Speaker 5: Tell you who I think would actually turnovers, but but 1035 00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:23,839 Speaker 5: you know what, he might make the tackle on all 1036 00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:27,279 Speaker 5: ten turnovers. My pick personally might be mathering, but I'm 1037 00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:29,120 Speaker 5: seeing where your mind's going. 1038 00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,880 Speaker 7: Cam Jones feels like he'd be really he's got the 1039 00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,799 Speaker 7: five right, Yeah, he'd be really slithery. He's got the 1040 00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,000 Speaker 7: lefty stuff. He'd be a kind of quarterback that I 1041 00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:40,120 Speaker 7: like watching. You know, you can come along with it. 1042 00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:45,080 Speaker 7: That's a fair Matherin was a good answer. So I 1043 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,000 Speaker 7: just zagged a little bit because you guys took the 1044 00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:47,920 Speaker 7: best look, Tony. 1045 00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:49,840 Speaker 4: Have you ever stuck your hand in a porter body? 1046 00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:51,520 Speaker 5: It's like my. 1047 00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:55,600 Speaker 4: Hand in a No what you're you're not a father? 1048 00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:56,120 Speaker 2: Are you? 1049 00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:57,280 Speaker 4: You never dropped anything? 1050 00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:00,319 Speaker 7: I no, no, no, no, no, uh. 1051 00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,359 Speaker 4: Any close calls they need to Yeah. 1052 00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:03,640 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1053 00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:07,040 Speaker 7: I in my old life of working a job, like 1054 00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:09,040 Speaker 7: a corporate job, I did a lot of like had 1055 00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,040 Speaker 7: to go to construction sites kind of things, and so 1056 00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,920 Speaker 7: I spent many minutes in one one company that I 1057 00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:16,800 Speaker 7: was in the port, they had one of those grabber 1058 00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:17,560 Speaker 7: things in there. 1059 00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:19,920 Speaker 2: Really smarter. 1060 00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:21,719 Speaker 7: Wow, yes, I know. 1061 00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,960 Speaker 2: Apparently that works out a problem. They finally had to 1062 00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:25,319 Speaker 2: fix it. 1063 00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:26,319 Speaker 4: Interesting. 1064 00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:26,680 Speaker 5: Wow. 1065 00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:30,120 Speaker 4: Okay, well maybe invest in that last year. 1066 00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,080 Speaker 2: Driver there, honey, can you get the I dropped my 1067 00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,480 Speaker 2: sunglasses in there on Saturday night. 1068 00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:41,200 Speaker 4: I instinctually, I just I just grabbed them out. 1069 00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:43,360 Speaker 7: I have no comment. 1070 00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:44,080 Speaker 4: Are they there? 1071 00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:44,600 Speaker 2: Are they gone? 1072 00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:44,880 Speaker 3: For you? 1073 00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:46,600 Speaker 4: Are you really going to judge me that hard. I 1074 00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:47,680 Speaker 4: thought you and I were friends. 1075 00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:49,239 Speaker 7: Oh, I'm not judging you. 1076 00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:53,040 Speaker 4: I have no comment. Is it no comment? A comment? 1077 00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:55,160 Speaker 4: Is that what they say in PR class? 1078 00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:57,080 Speaker 2: Is that what you say to all the coaches who 1079 00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:04,120 Speaker 2: say no comment? There's nothing there also no comment? All right, Tony, 1080 00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,960 Speaker 2: thanks for stopping by this morning. We appreciate you. 1081 00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:08,319 Speaker 6: Thanks having me