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Speaker 1: And the other is anytime Graham ray Hall starts talking

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Speaker 1: and I figured he would be the perfect person to

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Speaker 1: Peel and poor guest line Grammy fired up for the game?

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Speaker 2: I am, brother, I am he You know I don't

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Speaker 2: rub it into my I was rubbing it in more

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Speaker 2: to you when Clemson was was actually a good football program.

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Speaker 2: But that's changed.

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Speaker 3: Brother, Listen, how about the beginning.

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Speaker 1: And I'm trying to go where we were on Opening

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Speaker 1: that Ohio State defense is obviously elite. Do you see

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. I mean, well, at first off,

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Speaker 2: most fascinating story line that I've ever witnessed. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I I the rise of the program from the seller

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Speaker 2: you know, Ohio State on the whole this year, and

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Speaker 2: the whole this year has been absolutely dominant in every

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Speaker 2: the the the performance went really awe inspiring, like like

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Speaker 2: also think they're gonna score points. I don't think that

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Speaker 2: me saying as an arrogant fan, that's the reality, right,

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Speaker 3: See now, is that to say that you're admitting to

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Speaker 2: Not a chance. Hey, I'll tell you this right now.

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Speaker 2: They're going to be there screaming loud and proud.

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Speaker 3: I know that, you know to me, Graham, and you're right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the Indiana story is truly and listen, you

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Speaker 1: And I realize it's not like you're watching every other

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Speaker 1: I think we can emphatically say these are the two

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Speaker 2: Alabama is overrated as hell. How Alabama as high of

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Speaker 1: Graham in racing, Graham Rayhiul's my guest, Java House Peel

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Speaker 1: and poor guest line. In racing, we use a term

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Speaker 1: Do you believe that, offensively speaking, that Ohio state is

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Speaker 2: Yes, So to answer the question, I have to be

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Speaker 2: We're not doing this, he said, look flat out. The

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Speaker 2: remember the Penn State game. I said, yep, he goes.

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Speaker 2: They're in control of the play clock, They're in control

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Speaker 2: They just held the ball. That was their objective. Pull

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Speaker 2: It's not really an objective. And I think that's been

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Speaker 1: Where is Ohio State from what you've seen Graham, where

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Speaker 2: I think actually they're cornerbacks. They have you know, a

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Speaker 2: Ohio States strength is going to be their D line again,

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Speaker 1: If this were any other team but Ohio State, let's

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Speaker 1: this way, if Ohio State was allowed, if they said,

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Speaker 1: If it were anybody but Ohio State, would you be

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, I would because it's mean of a second home

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Speaker 1: As a Clemson fan, I never thought the situation would

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean. I mean, it's you know,

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Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you this, I try. I was like,

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Speaker 2: I didn't end up doing a lead or anything. I

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Speaker 2: one got sent to me for an outrageously embarrassingly high

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Speaker 1: And here's the all thing, Graham, and I appreciate the offer, right,

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Speaker 2: thank you. Two juveniles. They went from us either to Lebanon,

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Speaker 2: But it is what it is. I mean, it's disappointing

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Speaker 1: Lastly, Graham, and I know you're in town. Well, I

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Speaker 2: Right, Nuh, yeah, it's it's this is a series you know,

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Speaker 4: I mean I think it's a time to give some opinions,

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Speaker 1: Now you've got Mick Schumacher as a teammate, now, Michael

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Speaker 3: This is new. This came about about two weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you about that real quick before

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I'm pretty pumped about Mick. He's a

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Speaker 5: Sporting, you know, engineer zoom and stuff. I think you

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Speaker 5: I think he's going to be a great asset, not

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Speaker 5: His mom, you know, mom was an absolute doll to

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Speaker 5: I think that's it's uh that speaks volume to him,

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Speaker 5: It's a great guy and his mom's the same. It's sweet, man,

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Speaker 1: Lastly, Graham, is this the first of two meetings for

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Speaker 2: I don't believe.

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Speaker 5: They don't. I don't know. I'd say that I think

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they will.

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Speaker 1: I do think they will, and they both deserve it

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Speaker 1: for sure, Graham Ray Hall, Indy car season will be

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Speaker 1: between now and then. Graham certainly enjoy the game on

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Speaker 1: Saturday Night. I appreciate the time. I'm not gonna say

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Speaker 1: go bucks. I'm not gonna go that far for you.

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Speaker 1: I want to see Indiana win this game, but we

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Speaker 1: shall see what happens.

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Speaker 3: But I appreciate the time. As always.

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Speaker 2: That sounds good.

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Speaker 5: We'll loop back next week and still all.

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Speaker 3: Right, sounds good.

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Speaker 1: Graham ray Hall joining us, Java House Peel and poor

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Speaker 1: guest line. That's a pretty good breakdown though about Ohio State,

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Speaker 1: and it was played last night at a very high level.

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Speaker 3: We'll get to that next