1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: Why from vall Hartbeiner and the Crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today. 3 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 2: So Bovino is out and home and is in. And 4 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 2: that's supposed to be a very very big deal, supposed 5 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:25,240 Speaker 2: to be a major story. 6 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, the biggest thing that ever happened in 7 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 3: the can't believe what it is that this means. And 8 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 3: Trump he's he's giving in and he's acquiescing and it's. 9 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 2: A total failure. And now he's talking to. 10 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 3: To the Governor Tim Walls, and now he's talking uh 11 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 3: to uh, he's talking to the mayor Jacob fray. 12 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 4: But I had two very good talks. I had Jacob 13 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:53,279 Speaker 4: Frye and I had Governor Waltz, and I mean they 14 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 4: were they were great calls. So let's see how they reported. 15 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 4: But they were very nice calls, very respectful. 16 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 5: So is there a possibility President Trump of some type 17 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 5: of compromise. I read that some of the guard and 18 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 5: we leaving the state of Minnesota, some type of compromise 19 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 5: to I guess, make those guys feel like they're in 20 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 5: charge help us. 21 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, well we're I think so yeah, I mean, 22 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 4: I think so what we need is there criminals you 23 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 4: know they have criminals, and all I said, just give 24 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 4: us your criminals. And if you give us the criminals, 25 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:26,759 Speaker 4: it all goes away. They're there to pick up murders. 26 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 4: I don't know if you saw it, but it was 27 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 4: a couple of days ago now and said crime is 28 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 4: the lowest in the history of our country, the recorded 29 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 4: history of our country. That's a big statement. That's because 30 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 4: of us. That's because we go into cities and towns. 31 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 4: Usually we're embraced. Sometimes we're not. Chicago is like pulling 32 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 4: teeth with Pritzker and with the mayor, the mayor of Chicago, 33 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 4: low Iq person and usually we're embraced, but sometimes we're not. 34 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 4: And when we're not, it just makes. 35 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 3: It makes it much harder, makes it tremendously harder when 36 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 3: you you have people who are more interested in thwarting 37 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 3: ice and supporting a legal immigration and trying to tear 38 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 3: down the country. 39 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 2: Than they are in people actually being protected. 40 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 3: Now, I forget sometimes if I say, hello, Tony Katz, 41 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:14,519 Speaker 3: the show is Tony Katz today. 42 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 2: I hope you're staying warm out there. 43 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 3: It is very very cold in major parts of the country, 44 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 3: including where I live, and certainly in Minneapolis. But a 45 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 3: lot of people want to make a lot out of 46 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 3: this switch. Baveno is the chief of Border Patrol. Homan 47 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 3: Tom Homan is the Borderzar. The switch is, let's call 48 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 3: it political. You have two shootings that have taken place, 49 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 3: two people killed because of shootings, I should say, and 50 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,959 Speaker 3: there's massive pressure, and you look at the tactics and 51 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 3: people are like, oh, I don't like that. They favor, 52 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 3: at least if you were to look at polling, the 53 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 3: idea of removing the legal immigrants, but they don't favor 54 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 3: what's happening here. Well, what did they think was going 55 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 3: to happen? How did they think this was going to go? 56 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 3: Did you think the illegal immigrants were just going to 57 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 3: give themselves up? And there's been plenty of self deportations, 58 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 3: But do you think that was going to be the 59 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 3: case for the criminal element, the violent element? Do you 60 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 3: think that was going to be the case for the 61 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 3: violent left? Attacking ice agents, attacking where they are in hotels, 62 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 3: bloodying ice officers, biting the fingertips off of ice officers. 63 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 2: Nah, you didn't. Maybe the problem is. 64 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 3: You're actually witnessing how the sausage gets made. That's a 65 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 3: really ugly thing to say, Tony, an ugly thing to 66 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 3: say two people died. 67 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 2: I think we should be very wary of that, or 68 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 2: very aware of that. 69 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 3: We should be very aware of the fact that two 70 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 3: people died, one person who did not listen to instructions, 71 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 3: one person who put themselves in the mix. And in 72 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 3: both cases I still say investigate because maybe they're not 73 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 3: good shoots, and maybe based on the policies of Immigrations 74 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,839 Speaker 3: and Customs enforcement, those policies weren't or too and those 75 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 3: officers who don't adhere put to it policy. If they 76 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 3: do not adhere to policy, they have to deal with 77 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 3: the consequences. 78 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 2: They are not above it, not by any stretch. 79 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 3: If you don't want real consequences for your actions, don't 80 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 3: be an ICE agent, don't be border patrol, don't be 81 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 3: law enforcement. 82 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 2: Work a dairy queen. But if we want to talk about. 83 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 3: Having to deal with consequences of actions, those people engaged 84 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 3: in violence against ICE agents, tracking ICE agents, trying to 85 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:35,239 Speaker 3: intimidate and impede ICE agents, why aren't they in jail? 86 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 3: Which is why I say that I do not think 87 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 3: the mission should. 88 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:41,239 Speaker 2: Change at all. 89 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 3: Wlhthether there could be a tactical change, just often a 90 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 3: tactical change in a battle. But if that tactical change 91 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 3: does not involve arresting those people who are engaged in 92 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 3: violence against ICE agents, We're doing it all wrong. I'll 93 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 3: say it again, for the people in the chiefs, arrest 94 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 3: everyone who is in the country illegally and arrest those 95 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 3: people engage in acts of violence against ICE. Do it now, 96 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 3: do it today, do it tomorrow, do it the next day. 97 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 2: Do not stop, Do not stop. The chat room has 98 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 2: someone telling me, I'm I'm on the wrong side of history. 99 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 3: What's the wrong side? First of all, what a silly 100 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 3: bit of commentary there? The wrong side of history? That's 101 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:35,359 Speaker 3: a that's what heck of a of a statement, that 102 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 3: says a whole bunch of nothing. What's the wrong side here? 103 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 3: Believing that the law should be applied and upheld? 104 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 2: What's the wrong side here? 105 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 3: Believing that those people engage in Unamerican activities going not 106 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 3: just opposed to what ICE is doing, but violently fighting them, 107 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 3: they should somehow be left alone. 108 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 2: As if they're freedom fighters. 109 00:05:56,480 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 3: They are not, not in the slightest, not for a second. 110 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 2: No, maybe it's hard. 111 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 3: For some people to accept the fact that what we 112 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 3: are witnessing from these leftists is not protest. 113 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 2: But let me say it again, for the people in 114 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 2: the chief seats, it's not protest. It's nowhere near protest. 115 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 2: Attacking an ICE officer is not protest. If you think 116 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:29,359 Speaker 2: that you're wrong, let's break this down a little bit further. 117 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 2: I'll say it slower. 118 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 3: Protest your government all day, protest their actions unquestionable. March 119 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:43,239 Speaker 3: you go right ahead, stand on the street, corner, blog 120 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 3: or write or create videos, have concerts, all sorts of things. 121 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 3: Physically stop law enforcement from doing their job, not to 122 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 3: a protest, and you should be arrested for it. 123 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 2: Now at that moment, we're you're not willing. 124 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 3: To accept the fact there's a difference between protest and 125 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:08,359 Speaker 3: physically assaulting an ICE agent. There's no more having a 126 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 3: conversation with those people. Those people are willfully ignorant. They 127 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 3: don't want conversation. What they want is all or nothing. 128 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 3: And I have come to the conclusion that I'm going 129 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 3: to give you nothing. 130 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 2: You get nothing. What is it? What does it matter 131 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 2: what you say? The wrong side of history. You're on 132 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 2: the side of attacking ICE agents. H weirdo. 133 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 3: I said the shooting should be investigated, and if policy 134 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 3: was not followed, those agents. 135 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 2: Are gonna have to deal with the consequences, and that 136 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 2: could very well include jail time one thousand percent. 137 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 3: But you don't get too physically a cost ice agents. 138 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 3: You don't get to intimidate, you don't get to like 139 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 3: pin in their cars so they can't move. You think 140 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 3: that's advocating for a police state. What do you think 141 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 3: it is these people are doing? The left has decided 142 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 3: do everything we want, or we will be violent. Act 143 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 3: the way we tell you to, or we will be violent. 144 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 3: Don't speak out, or we will be violent. Where do 145 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 3: you think the police state is coming from? Who do 146 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 3: you think you're kidding with your lines of nonsense. Who 147 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 3: do you think this works on? 148 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 2: Well, admittedly it does work on some percentage of the population, 149 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,079 Speaker 2: but not here. So why do you come at these stronger? 150 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 3: But maybe do it without the posturing and without the 151 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 3: sloganeering and get into the heart of the matter. You 152 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 3: want the illegal immigrant to be able to stay, say 153 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 3: the words. 154 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:49,439 Speaker 2: You want the society where there. 155 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 3: Is no law and order, where you do indeed defund 156 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 3: the police, and somehow you think everything's going to be 157 00:08:55,120 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 3: all right, we've already proven that that doesn't work. They said, 158 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 3: we're going to defund the police, and then they defunded 159 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 3: the police, and they said, oh crap, we defunded the 160 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 3: police when we need them, and they refunded the police. 161 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:14,079 Speaker 3: The left favors the ice agent being assaulted. They favor 162 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 3: allowing the illegal immigrant to stay, and they favor saying 163 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 3: nothing about their side, only that the rights should acquiesce, 164 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 3: that the independent and the modern should acquiesce, that young 165 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 3: Americans gen z should acquiesce to their monstrosity view, their 166 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 3: attack view, their violent view, and maybe we shouldn't say anything, 167 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 3: we shouldn't speak out, and that way we won't get hurt. 168 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:52,439 Speaker 3: That's their argument. That's the society that they want. Protesters 169 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 3: can protest violence. People need to be arrested. And that's 170 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 3: what I said, Why are aren't we doing that? And 171 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 3: that's what I expect from Tom Homan. That's what I 172 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 3: want from Tom Homan. I don't expect any change in 173 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 3: going after people here illegally. And President Trump says he 174 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 3: spoke to Governor Wallas and he spoke to Mayor Frey, 175 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 3: and I want the people who are here illegally, and 176 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 3: we want to get them off the streets. Do I 177 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 3: really believe that that Fray and Walls are going to 178 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:31,959 Speaker 3: work with him? Not for a second, not a chance. 179 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,839 Speaker 2: Do I believe another having some videos about all of 180 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 2: a sudden you see Minneapolis's finest on the streets, well 181 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 2: that I'd love to be wrong. 182 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 3: That'd be great, that'd be great if they're actually going 183 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 3: to do something. 184 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 2: But how do they do that? 185 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 3: Jacob Fray, the mayor of Minneapolis, is the guy who 186 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 3: said Ice, get the blank out of Minneapolis. This is 187 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 3: the guy who cries over George Floyd. This is a 188 00:10:56,240 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 3: guy who puts out ads in other languages to get 189 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 3: to get voters and a and and kind of endear 190 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 3: himself to the Somali community. This is not somebody who 191 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 3: is going to be able to turn away from his leftist, 192 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:12,199 Speaker 3: progressive vona fides and all of a sudden work with 193 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 3: law enforcement to get rid of illegal immigrants. 194 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:17,319 Speaker 2: Governor Tim Walls. 195 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 3: You think Governor Tim Walls is all of a sudden 196 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 3: going to be a guy who says, Okay, now I'm 197 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 3: in let's uh, let's go about getting rid of of 198 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 3: of these of these terrible people who are in the country. 199 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 2: Illegally. Yeah, let's go. Let's go make that happen. The 200 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 2: same guy who makes this comparison. 201 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 6: We have got children in Minnesota hiding in their houses, 202 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 6: afraid to go outside. Many of us grew up reading 203 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 6: that story of Anne Frank. Somebody's going to write that 204 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:57,439 Speaker 6: children's story about Minnesota. And there's one person who can end. 205 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 2: The Holocaust Museum is already taken that despicable. 206 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 3: Comment to task like this is somehow anyway comparable the 207 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 3: Holocaust and removing illegal immigrants from the United States. 208 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 2: But they'll throw anything out there. 209 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 3: They don't care about decency, they don't care about the facts, 210 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 3: they don't care about history. 211 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 2: They don't care. 212 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 3: And the more they scream, the more they get angry, 213 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 3: the more the trolls come after me, the less it matters. 214 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 2: The argument before us is are we a nation of 215 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 2: laws or not? 216 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 3: And what the Left is saying is no, We are 217 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 3: a nation of emotion, and their emotion is a violent emotion. 218 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 3: And they're saying that you should give in to their violence, 219 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 3: and if you do, then everything will stop. Put there, 220 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 3: they'll be ready to be violent if you should even 221 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 3: think of disagreeing with them. I say we disagree with 222 00:12:54,160 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 3: them right now. I think that the United States and 223 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 3: President Trump and law enforcement and ICE needs to follow 224 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 3: the law every step of the way, and we need 225 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 3: to ensure that others are following the law. And this 226 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 3: has to be our Israel moment to their Hamas. Hamas 227 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:20,319 Speaker 3: kills twelve hundred Israelis and assume that Israel would engage 228 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:22,839 Speaker 3: some attack, but it would be over soon because. 229 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 2: The world wouldn't let them keep going. 230 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 3: And lo and behold, they went at it for two 231 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 3: years and finally have every hostage back. Yesterday, for the 232 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 3: first time since October seven, twenty twenty three, there were 233 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 3: no Israelis captured alive or killed in Gaza, eight hundred 234 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 3: and seventy three days. 235 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 2: I believe it was it's a long time. 236 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 3: The difference with Israelness response that got everybody all sorts 237 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 3: of upset and then they lied about genocide, is that 238 00:13:56,440 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 3: they weren't going to stop. They had had enough enough 239 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 3: of these terrorists, low life scumbags, enough of the people 240 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 3: who support them. 241 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 2: They're going to suffer. We're going to put an end 242 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:07,559 Speaker 2: to this. 243 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 3: We're done pretending we can try, We're done actually trying. 244 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 3: The cities around the Gaza envelope that would hire Palestinians 245 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 3: and drive into Gaza to pick people up and drive 246 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 3: them to work. Those were the cities that got slaughtered. 247 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 3: Mayors that were working to bring manufacturing to these areas, 248 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 3: so people in gos that would have jobs got slaughtered 249 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 3: by the people they knew, the Palestinians that were brought 250 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 3: here for work and for opportunities, the Palestinians they had befriended. 251 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 3: These were the people that gave Hamas all the coordinates 252 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 3: and how these kibbutzers were set up, and how these 253 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 3: communities were. 254 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 2: Set up so the attack could go flawlessly. 255 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 3: The Israeli said, We're not putting up with this anymore. 256 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 3: And when the world said, okay, okay, now you've got 257 00:14:58,600 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 3: to stop, the Israeli said, no. 258 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 2: We're done with these people. 259 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 3: I put forth to Ice, to the President and to 260 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 3: you that our job is not to put up with 261 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 3: these radical, violent agitators. Protesters get to protest. The First 262 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 3: Amendment belongs to all of us. Those engaged in violence 263 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 3: must be arrested on the spot. Those who are pushing 264 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 3: against the doors of hotels must be arrested by the hundreds. 265 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 2: Don't stop, not for a second. The left will scream 266 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 2: and they'll call you an American, and they'll call you 267 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 2: a fascist, and blah blah blah blah. Shut up. 268 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 3: We need to show America that we know how to 269 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 3: follow the law and that we will where the ICE 270 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 3: agents involved in bad shoots. When it comes to Renee Good, 271 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 3: I really don't think so. But I'm not a member 272 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 3: of ICE, and there might be things in proced I 273 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 3: don't know about. When it comes to Alex pretty doesn't 274 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 3: look good again, there might be things I don't know about. 275 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 3: Investigations have to happen, and people who have. 276 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 2: Not acted properly need to be held to account. 277 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 3: That is true of vice, That is true of the 278 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 3: citizen violating some basic tenets of the social contract shore 279 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 3: but engaged in violence to get their political ideology through. 280 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 2: We don't do that here. And I don't give a 281 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 2: damn if they're happy, and I don't care if people 282 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 2: are upset with how I speak. 283 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 3: This is what has to happen. No change of policy, 284 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 3: change a tactic is up to you. 285 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 2: Arrest every violent person attacking ICE agents and do it now. 286 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 3: I'm Tony Katz. The United States is done with the 287 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 3: World Health organization. Man, still good things happening out there. 288 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 2: I love it. I love it. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, 289 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 2: what's going on? Everybody? Find everything at Tony. 290 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 3: Kats dot com the phone number eight three three got 291 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:10,880 Speaker 3: Tony eight three three four six eight eight six sixty nine. 292 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 3: Live streaming on YouTube and X Find it there. Just 293 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 3: search for Tony Kats. Tony at Tony kats dot com. 294 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 3: Email me feel free. We are ending the relationship with 295 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 3: the World Health Organization. President Trump last year has said 296 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 3: the plan was to leave, and now it is done. 297 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 3: These organizations, I would argue, as a matter of concept, 298 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 3: do create value. Even the United Nations should as a 299 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 3: concept create a value. But we have seen the World 300 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 3: Health Organization in practice. They would not condemn China. They 301 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:56,400 Speaker 3: would not condemn their actions. They would not condemn them 302 00:17:56,560 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 3: knowing what was happening with COVID and not telling the world, 303 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 3: profiting off of it. They engaged a level of cover 304 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 3: up to support China. Why should someone be in favor 305 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 3: of this. They did not favor science. They favored control, 306 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:16,679 Speaker 3: especially when it comes to vaccines. And I'm not an 307 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:17,640 Speaker 3: anti vaccine guy. 308 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 2: And who must have it? And how you have to 309 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:21,679 Speaker 2: have it in order. 310 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 3: To exist, and not saying, listen, we have this thing 311 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:27,400 Speaker 3: that's been developed. 312 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 2: You'll decide whether you take it. Here's what we know 313 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 2: about it. They engage no trust of the people around 314 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 2: the globe. 315 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 3: And I do think it is accurate that the United 316 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 3: States does not reward that with our membership, our dollars, 317 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 3: or our prestige. 318 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 2: We walk away, Let's start another one. Let's try again. Now. 319 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:55,439 Speaker 3: Will it fall into some issues and leftism and all 320 00:18:55,440 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 3: the rest, Absolutely, of course, But I don't mind trying 321 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 3: because sometimes when you try something you end up doing 322 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:06,719 Speaker 3: it right. You're never going to get it right if 323 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 3: you don't at least try. Pulling out the World Health Organization. 324 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 2: Is a good thing. I'm glad we did it. The 325 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 2: UN next please, because well, this isn't doing us any good, idea. 326 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 3: I'm Tony Katz, and this is Tony Katz today. So 327 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 3: I have a series of stories that I want to 328 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 3: get to. 329 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 2: Usually I leave it for three more things that I 330 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 2: often a couple of stories that aren't really being talked about. 331 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 2: But the story about Trump and Canada I think is 332 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 2: quite important. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, And it started 333 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 2: with President Trump putting out a post on truth social 334 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 2: where he said, Governor Karney thinks he's going to make 335 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 2: Canada drop off port for China to send goods and 336 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 2: products into the United States. He is sorely mistaken, Governor Carney, 337 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 2: right like fifty first state. Oh, these things are not 338 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 2: ending people, Tony Kats Tony Katz today, Good to be here, 339 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 2: Good to be with you. This has to do with 340 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:25,239 Speaker 2: some trade deal that Canada signed with China. A lot 341 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 2: of people were posting on social media. 342 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 3: That, oh, Canada has caved to Trump and now they're 343 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:32,679 Speaker 3: not going to do the trade deal. Now they're doing 344 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 3: They're doing the trade deal. And even Trump what heard 345 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:37,439 Speaker 3: about the trade deal, said well, listen, Canada is supposed 346 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 3: to be. 347 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 2: Signing trade deal, so good for them. Which is. 348 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 3: Which is the proper? Of course, other countries are going 349 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 3: to be signing trade deals. As a matter of fact, 350 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:51,439 Speaker 3: one of the trade deals being looked at right now 351 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 3: is the trade deal between India and the European Union, 352 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 3: which Mody Prime Minister Modi. 353 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 2: Had as. 354 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 3: Termed or coined as the mother of all deals. I 355 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 3: don't know what that means. 356 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 2: And the question before us is are we going to 357 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 2: see moves from Trump on tariffs because of a deal 358 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 2: that they're making. 359 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 3: The Dow, by the way, taking a nice big punch 360 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 3: to the face, and as we have all seen, and 361 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 3: the data shows that if you want to lie about it, 362 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 3: sure the market can take this big punch. And then 363 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 3: two days later it's back. And right now it's only 364 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 3: affecting the Dow. Now there are some other things because 365 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 3: Trump has been saying that we're going to keep Medicare 366 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 3: rates flat, and so the healthcare stocks are also taking 367 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 3: I think they're down like midday today, they were down 368 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 3: like twenty percent. I don't know where they're gonna end 369 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 3: because they were hoping to get more dollars and it 370 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 3: turns out that they might not. 371 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 2: Be begetting those. 372 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,159 Speaker 3: The other one is how does this deal work and 373 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 3: how does it affect global trade? And in a way 374 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 3: does it make Trump angry? And listen, tariffs are taxes 375 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 3: and they drive me nuts. Tarifs for specific purpose, I 376 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 3: have no problem with tariffs is a generalized principle in philosophy. Nope, 377 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 3: not interested, haven't been interested. 378 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 2: I know the. 379 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 3: People who are all Trump all the time are gonna 380 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 3: yell at me. I know this guys, well, Tony, they 381 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 3: clearly worked. You're not clearly looking. 382 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 2: Trump has not had to deal with an inflation issue 383 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 2: because of the tariffs, and it is quite incredible. It's incredible. 384 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 2: It can't be denied. 385 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 3: Economists are like, wait a second, this isn't supposed to 386 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 3: happen like this. And we've made the argument here that 387 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 3: there's so much investment happening on the AI side. 388 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 2: It's countering the issues that the tariffs. Given that the 389 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 2: tariffs weren't there. 390 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,479 Speaker 3: In the main, right, you can have specific ones here 391 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 3: and there, we would have greater growth, see inflation go down. 392 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,159 Speaker 3: We could see interst rates further go down, which is 393 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 3: why when we talk about gold and silver, gold is 394 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 3: over five thousand announce, right, it costs fifty one hundred 395 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 3: dollars an ounce. 396 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 2: Silver hit one hundred and thirteen. 397 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:27,679 Speaker 3: Sorry, that's beyond belief, beyond anything I could have ever imagined. 398 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,360 Speaker 2: But it's a hedge against inflation, and it's a real one. 399 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 2: It's very very real. 400 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 3: So how Trump handles a deal between the Europeans and 401 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 3: India could have a big effect on the market. But 402 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 3: what Trump has said to Canada is don't think you're 403 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 3: just gonna take Canadian Chinese goods and then just send 404 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 3: them to us like we're gonna buy them. 405 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no, no, no, no, no no, 406 00:23:55,760 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 2: that's not going to happen, not in the slightest. We 407 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 2: are not going to allow in any way, shape or form. 408 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 2: We're not going to allow you. 409 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 3: To simply utilize a deal with China to abuse us. Now, 410 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 3: I think that it's a little bit different. Trump continued 411 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 3: that China will eat Canada alive, completely devour it, including 412 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,880 Speaker 3: the destruction of their businesses, social fabric and general way 413 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 3: of life. If Canada makes a deal with China, it 414 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 3: will immediately be hit with a one hundred percent tariff 415 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 3: against all Canadian goods and products coming into the USA. 416 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 3: Thank you for your attention to this matter, President Donald 417 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 3: John Trump. Now with that his conversation, his focus was 418 00:24:53,520 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 3: on trade. My conversation and focus has been on the military. 419 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:10,640 Speaker 2: What exactly can we accept and not accept. 420 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 3: In Canada saying that there needs to be some level 421 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 3: of new world order and attaching themselves to China because 422 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 3: they're not happy with how trade has worked in the 423 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 3: tire of conversation has worked with the United States. Now 424 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 3: For the sake of clarity, I do not believe Canada 425 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 3: has reacted one hundred percent improperly to the towers from 426 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 3: the United States. One of the things I always thought 427 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,439 Speaker 3: was weird is when people are like, how dare they reactor? 428 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,360 Speaker 2: How did they respond? What do you mean? How dare 429 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 2: they react? Or how dare they respond? 430 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 3: It might seem small compared to our economic strength and capability, 431 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 3: but they're going to do what they do. There are 432 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:03,120 Speaker 3: one thousand percent going to do what they do. They're 433 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 3: going to say, we have a country, We're going to 434 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 3: be proud of it. We're not going to just sit 435 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 3: here and take this garbage. They consider it garbage. Right, 436 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 3: One could understand how they view it. And so a 437 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,199 Speaker 3: lot of people looked at, for example, the tariff's I'm bourbon, 438 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,159 Speaker 3: and oh, this is why Jim Beam isn't producing bourbon, 439 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,640 Speaker 3: and this is why the whole industry is falling apart. 440 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,919 Speaker 2: It isn't does make up a small part of it 441 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 2: that you saw the tariffs on bourbon, the bourbon being 442 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 2: taken off the shelves. 443 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 3: And it's not true in every province. It's only true 444 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 3: in like two or three provinces. Other provinces are carrying it. 445 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 3: Some people aren't buying it because they're not buying it, 446 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 3: and that's that. The real issue with bourbon in the 447 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,399 Speaker 3: United States has to do with trends here in the US, 448 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:48,959 Speaker 3: younger generations not drinking. People had their fill post COVID 449 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 3: and then a tremendous number of weight loss drugs that 450 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 3: have people not interested in drinking. There's a lot of 451 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 3: things happening here and people wants came out it's all 452 00:26:58,119 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 3: about Trump with the tariffs. 453 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,159 Speaker 2: Don't look at the subjects like we do. Understand that. 454 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 3: I host the largest cigar and bourbon review show in 455 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 3: the country, radio show in the country called Eat, Drink, Smoke. 456 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 2: We get to talk to people, we are studying these things. 457 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 3: And to say that it's all just because of Trump 458 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,360 Speaker 3: is people engage in their politics and not engaged in reality. 459 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 2: I have no interest for those people, and I don't 460 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 2: think you should either. 461 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 3: But one should look at how Canada's reacted and say, huh, 462 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 3: all right, they. 463 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:37,159 Speaker 2: Stood up for themselves. That's what they did. 464 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 3: We would do the same, and you know you would. 465 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 3: And if the argument is how dare they stand up 466 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 3: for themselves? I'm sorry that is to not understand human nature, 467 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 3: which brings us to Canada and China being chummy and 468 00:27:54,800 --> 00:28:01,360 Speaker 3: the military. If Canada thinks we are going to let 469 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:08,199 Speaker 3: China engage in any military operation or exercise off the Canadian. 470 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 2: Coast, they're out of their minds. The Canadians are out 471 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,439 Speaker 2: of their heads. And if they want to fight, you 472 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 2: got it. 473 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 3: Well, Canada is an independent nation and we don't get 474 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 3: to say, well, yeah, we do. China is the enemy. 475 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,159 Speaker 3: They're not welcome in the Western hemisphere. 476 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 2: They cannot be having alliances and allegiances with somebody that 477 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 2: we are physically connected to. The answer is no. So 478 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 2: there is a place for Canada to say, Hey, United States, 479 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 2: we're going to take this crap from you, And there's 480 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 2: a place to say you're going to take any crap 481 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 2: I tell you to take because we are the biggest 482 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 2: guy on the playgrounds and we're willing to prove it. 483 00:28:56,360 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 2: Some people will see that as abusive. I'm not one 484 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 2: of those people. 485 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 3: I see that as a full understanding of the threat 486 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 3: that is all around us, the threat that comes to 487 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 3: us hourly from these people, and the protection of America's future. 488 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 3: Canada cannot be engaged in any type of military relationship 489 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 3: with China and the US just said idly by that 490 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 3: is not going to happen, not now, not never, not ever. 491 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 2: It's not and the President should should push back on that. 492 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 3: As for what's going to happen with goods and products 493 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 3: into the United States, I guess he's gonna raise tariffs. 494 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 2: I guess that's coming, and the markets will react as they. 495 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 3: Do, saying we don't like it, and then a couple 496 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 3: of days later, everything will just go back to the 497 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 3: way it was. I'm not paying attention to the trade 498 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 3: part of it. I'm paying attention to the military part 499 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 3: of it. That's the one to be concerned about. I'm 500 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 3: Tony Katz, and this is Tony Katz today. Senator Chris 501 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 3: van Holland. Never moment he has thoughts, the Democrat from 502 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 3: Maryland on ice and our safety. 503 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 7: I was Senator Chris van Holland, a Democrat from Maryland. Senator, 504 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 7: thank you so much for being with us. So Bavino 505 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 7: is out, Homan is in. President Trump is talking with 506 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 7: Governor waltz In. Mayor Fry Allegedly, there are some changes 507 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 7: happening on the ground. 508 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 8: There. 509 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 7: More and more Republican senators are coming forward and members 510 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 7: of Congress saying they want an independent investigation. How satisfied 511 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 7: are you with what's been happening. 512 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 8: Tom, I'm not satisfied because what we need is permanent 513 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 8: changes with respect to how ICE and the Border Patrol 514 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 8: folks conduct themselves. 515 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 9: And that will require. 516 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 8: Raining in ICE as well as the Border control folks, 517 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 8: and it also means creating a system for accountability. We 518 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 8: need accountability in this particular case, in both cases in 519 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 8: Minnesota where we've seen killings, but we also need an 520 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 8: ongoing commitment to make sure that there's accountability. The problem 521 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 8: we've seen is that these agents are essentially being tolled 522 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 8: from the White House by people like Steve Miller, people 523 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 8: like Secretary Nome, people like President Trump that they can 524 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 8: go out and kill Americans. 525 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 2: No, they're not. Stop it, stop it, stop it. That's 526 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 2: not it. Know them had a two hour meeting with such. 527 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 3: There is no indication that Trump is going to fire 528 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 3: I will say this. I would argue that the immediate 529 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 3: on the shooting of Alex pretty of saying that he 530 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 3: was there to engage in mass murder of a vice agents, 531 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 3: it did. It hit people very much the wrong way, 532 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 3: like who wha, whoa, whoa, whoa. We don't know what's 533 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 3: going on, and for five seconds you're already doing this. 534 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 3: Now the argument should be, well, this is what the 535 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 3: left does, immediately paint the picture, call. 536 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 2: Ice agents, this, that and the other. And that's how 537 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 2: you said a narrative. And so you saw this with 538 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 2: Renee Good domestic terrorist. Can we take five minutes to 539 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 2: find out what happened? 540 00:32:54,400 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 3: Nope, boom calling it And I said interesting, interesting, in interesting, interesting, 541 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 3: interesting that they're going right for the narrative set, which 542 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 3: is an interesting take and an interesting way to do 543 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 3: these things. You gotta understand, and sometimes that doesn't that 544 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 3: doesn't work. And the people on the political right, they're 545 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 3: not the people who buy into those things. And so 546 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 3: that's the issue. Nome is she in the hot seat? 547 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 2: I don't. I have no reason to think that she is. 548 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 2: No matter. 549 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 3: You know, when you see the left saying Nome needs 550 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 3: to resign and Tom Holman needs to resign. The political 551 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 3: left of the people who let Alejandro Mayorcis be the 552 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 3: Secretary of Homeland Security, not keep the border safe, and 553 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 3: lie every single day that the border was secure and 554 00:33:59,240 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 3: more secure than that. 555 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 2: It was a lie. 556 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 3: And then the House impeached him, and the Senate under 557 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 3: Chuck Schimmer refused to have a trial. So I don't 558 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 3: listen to them when they say this one has to 559 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:10,879 Speaker 3: go with that wants to go. It's just what they say. 560 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:14,840 Speaker 3: I don't care blah blah blah blah blah. But I 561 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 3: do recognize reality and the push for calling him a 562 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:22,800 Speaker 3: potential murderer and mass murderer. 563 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 2: Man, it was a miss. You didn't connect there. Give 564 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 2: us data, give us facts, show us what. 565 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 3: Has been happening, what's going on, where he's connected to, 566 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 3: how he's connected, etc. 567 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,280 Speaker 2: So what was the talk about. 568 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 3: I don't know how they are going to deal with 569 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 3: this in a pr way, how they want to change tactics, 570 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,880 Speaker 3: if they want to change tactics. But I'll say it again, 571 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 3: Tom Homan is in, Greg Bavino is out, and I 572 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:59,280 Speaker 3: don't think anything changes. The arrests still come, and I think. 573 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 2: That you got to move the violet out of their 574 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 2: comedian I'm. 575 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 1: Tony Katz, lie from the Heartland and the Crossroads of America. 576 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:27,400 Speaker 2: It's Tony Katz today. 577 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 3: I am not a soothsayer, so I cannot tell you 578 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,279 Speaker 3: what exists in the hearts of men. 579 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:43,440 Speaker 2: I cannot tell you what they believe or what they 580 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 2: don't believe when they say it, are they being honest? 581 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 2: I have no way of knowing whether Jimmy Kimmel, the 582 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:55,359 Speaker 2: host of his late night show of the same name 583 00:35:55,640 --> 00:36:01,400 Speaker 2: on ABC, is honest or not when he talks about 584 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 2: the death of Alex Pretty shot by ice as he 585 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 2: interfered with an ice operation. If that was. 586 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:12,280 Speaker 10: Isis instead of ice, we'd be firing missiles at somebody 587 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,479 Speaker 10: and plunging allegiance to the flag altogether. Right now, watch 588 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 10: that video, watch every angle, as upsetting as it might be, 589 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 10: and decide for yourself if that's making America great, and 590 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 10: if it isn't, please say something about it. This has 591 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 10: to stop, and I'm convinced now that the only people 592 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:29,759 Speaker 10: who can stop it are on the right. I know 593 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 10: it takes a lot of courage to go against. 594 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,759 Speaker 2: Your tribe or whatever it is, but that's what we need. 595 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 10: We need some decent people on the right to show. 596 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:41,320 Speaker 2: Some courage and some common sense. Let me ask you, Jimmy, 597 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 2: are you asking something of the same political right that 598 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 2: you've been belittling, attacking, and shaming for years now? Now 599 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, we're one country now, all of 600 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 2: a sudden, Yes, there are good people on the right. 601 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 2: I thought we were all fascist and Nazis and boot lickuors. 602 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:09,239 Speaker 2: That's what your party says. That's what you say when 603 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,760 Speaker 2: you lie about who. 604 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 3: It is that assassinated Charlie Kirk and then get angry 605 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:15,760 Speaker 3: at us for noticing. 606 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 2: Now, it's because we don't have courage and we need 607 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:26,720 Speaker 2: it to do what to stop the violence against ICE agents? 608 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 2: We want the violence stopped against ICE agents. To do what. 609 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 3: To continue to engage in the arrest of illegal immigrants 610 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 3: who have violated our laws? 611 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 2: We want to do this. 612 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 3: What exactly are you referring to the shooting of Alex 613 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:48,280 Speaker 3: pretty well, let's discuss that. Tony Kats Tony Kats today, guys, 614 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 3: great to be with you. Find everything at Tony kats 615 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:52,960 Speaker 3: dot com, live streaming on the youtubes. 616 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 2: You can check it out for yourself. Be happy to 617 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 2: have you here. 618 00:37:56,600 --> 00:38:00,160 Speaker 3: On YouTube YouTube dot com look for Tony Katz and subscribe. 619 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,680 Speaker 2: Speak more Jimmy Kimmel. 620 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,920 Speaker 10: And if our leaders aren't even trying to reduce the 621 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:10,120 Speaker 10: amount of chaos in the street rather than exacerbating it, 622 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:14,800 Speaker 10: if our leaders are intentionally creating and encouraging violence and fear. 623 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 2: Then I hope you will also agree we need new leaders. 624 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:23,400 Speaker 3: Because on the right or on the right and the left, Jimmy, 625 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 3: Peggy Flanagan wants to incite violence. The Lieutenant Governor, Tim Walls, 626 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 3: the governor, has wanted to incite violence. Jacob Pray, the 627 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,840 Speaker 3: mayor of Minneapolis, have wanted to incite violence. 628 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:37,400 Speaker 2: It is Peggy. 629 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:40,799 Speaker 3: Flanagan who said put your body on the line. It 630 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:44,680 Speaker 3: is Tim Walls who not only joked about Trump dying 631 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,320 Speaker 3: but compared those members of ICE to Nazis. 632 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 2: And it is Jacob Pray, the. 633 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,759 Speaker 3: Mayor of Minneapolis, has said, hey, Ice, get the blank out. 634 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 2: And this violence has been going on for days, four weeks, 635 00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:01,240 Speaker 2: nay for months, And where is the Democratic Party leadership 636 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 2: to say stop it. 637 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:09,760 Speaker 3: We've been saying stop it. You're right, the leadership should 638 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:14,319 Speaker 3: speak up. So when people like John Fetterman of Pennsylvania, 639 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,360 Speaker 3: the Senator says he supports ICE, he doesn't like these actions, 640 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,520 Speaker 3: but he supports IC and he doesn't want to defund them, 641 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:25,040 Speaker 3: the left wants to vilify him, and the left wants 642 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,120 Speaker 3: to ensure that he loses his primary. 643 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:31,680 Speaker 2: How do you square the circle? The violence is coming, 644 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:35,719 Speaker 2: Jimmy Kimmel from inside the house, not because I said so, 645 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:36,839 Speaker 2: but because it is. 646 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 5: So. 647 00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:39,839 Speaker 2: When you say we. 648 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:46,000 Speaker 3: Must tone down the rhetoric, you first, and where is 649 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:49,879 Speaker 3: the call specific to your leadership, the same people who 650 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:53,880 Speaker 3: pass you notes about healthcare, like Chuck Schumer, to say 651 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:55,400 Speaker 3: tone down the rhetoric? 652 00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:01,759 Speaker 2: Where is that? Go back to Jimmy Kimmel. These are 653 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,040 Speaker 2: not leaders. 654 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 10: And to the people of Minneapolis, to the Pretty family 655 00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:15,840 Speaker 10: and the Good family, and. 656 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 2: These people were looking out for their neighbors. We want 657 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:22,279 Speaker 2: you know that we are with you and you are 658 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:28,960 Speaker 2: not alone. I have no way of knowing if his 659 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:38,000 Speaker 2: tears are genuine or fake. I don't know. What I 660 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 2: know is is that I do not believe that Renee 661 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,200 Speaker 2: Good or Alex Pretty were standing up for their neighbors, 662 00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,560 Speaker 2: and I do reject the premise. What I also know 663 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 2: is that there was no public pronouncement that I can 664 00:40:54,760 --> 00:41:07,920 Speaker 2: recall from Jimmy Kimmel for Lake and Riley, not a one, 665 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:13,040 Speaker 2: Not a single public pronouncement took place for Arena Zarutzka, 666 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,319 Speaker 2: who was stabbed to death in a light rail car 667 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:23,480 Speaker 2: in Charlotte, and she died afraid as her attacker loomed 668 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:27,239 Speaker 2: over her, and when he walked away, no one came 669 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:31,120 Speaker 2: to her aid, No one came to help her, No 670 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,360 Speaker 2: one stood up for their neighbor. 671 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:40,839 Speaker 3: She slowly bled out and slumped over in a light 672 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:46,680 Speaker 3: rail car, and the media forgot about her as quickly 673 00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:53,240 Speaker 3: as they could. I do not know if Jimmy Kimmel's 674 00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:58,680 Speaker 3: tears are real, and I'm not so sure I get 675 00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:05,399 Speaker 3: to judge that, but I can notice, as clear as 676 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:10,880 Speaker 3: I can notice anything else, that his tears are indeed 677 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:16,560 Speaker 3: selective when it comes to the public. These people were 678 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,319 Speaker 3: standing up for their neighbors. That's an opinion that I 679 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:25,520 Speaker 3: do not follow or track. Aren't aren't those of us who. 680 00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:29,160 Speaker 2: Support ICE and support the arrest of illegal immigrants standing 681 00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,400 Speaker 2: up for our neighbors because we don't want them to 682 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:35,360 Speaker 2: end up like Lake and Riley. We don't want them. 683 00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,839 Speaker 3: To end up like Arenas Rutska, even though that. 684 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:39,160 Speaker 2: Person wasn't here illegally. 685 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,640 Speaker 3: We don't want it, and we want to do something 686 00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:47,239 Speaker 3: about it, and we voted in an election to vote 687 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,200 Speaker 3: for someone who would do something about it. Because the 688 00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:52,279 Speaker 3: Biden administration would not do anything about it. They told 689 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,840 Speaker 3: us everything was fine. They told us they needed special 690 00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,880 Speaker 3: laws in order to do anything. They gas lit America 691 00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:02,120 Speaker 3: for four years, and only when they realized this might 692 00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,800 Speaker 3: hurt in an election where Joe Biden was incompetent and 693 00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:08,520 Speaker 3: then could not even run, did they pretend to do 694 00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:15,520 Speaker 3: something about it. And it wasn't enough. How dared Jimmy 695 00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,520 Speaker 3: Kimmel make the assumption? And I do believe he's making 696 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:21,880 Speaker 3: the assumption that only the left cares about their neighbors. 697 00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:23,440 Speaker 2: It is just the opposite. 698 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,840 Speaker 3: The right believes only the right cares about their neighbors. 699 00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,120 Speaker 3: Who else would allow people into the country illegally. People 700 00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,760 Speaker 3: were not vetted, People were not checked, some of whom 701 00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:37,720 Speaker 3: are indeed incredible criminals, violence people. Why in the world 702 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,680 Speaker 3: do we not understand what President Trump is saying when 703 00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:44,759 Speaker 3: he says that they have quite literally emptied out their 704 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:48,240 Speaker 3: asylums and their jails of the worst of the worst 705 00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:52,399 Speaker 3: and sent them our way And we should still deal 706 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,680 Speaker 3: with Mexico with far more strength. 707 00:43:55,480 --> 00:44:03,560 Speaker 2: Because they allowed it to happen. Jimmy Kimmel has absolutely 708 00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:07,759 Speaker 2: no luck on morality and decency, and I have no 709 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:11,279 Speaker 2: idea of whether or not his tears are real. What 710 00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:16,000 Speaker 2: I know is that they're selective, and I'm not interested 711 00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:21,640 Speaker 2: in being a society of selective tears. We should be bothered. 712 00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:29,160 Speaker 3: We should say this is madness, this violent approach to Ice. 713 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:37,400 Speaker 3: And we can say quite clearly without any hesitation, that 714 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:42,920 Speaker 3: if there was no violence towards Ice, Renee Good and 715 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:47,200 Speaker 3: Alex Pretty would still be alive, at least from the instances, 716 00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:51,879 Speaker 3: and that we saw them in places where they put themselves. 717 00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,960 Speaker 3: People want to keep pretending that that doesn't matter. The 718 00:44:58,000 --> 00:44:59,560 Speaker 3: people who want to do that are the people who 719 00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:03,240 Speaker 3: want the violence. And Jimmy wants to look to leaders 720 00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:06,200 Speaker 3: to tone that down. The leaders have been fomenting it. 721 00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:14,480 Speaker 3: They want it. Isn't it obvious they want it. They 722 00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,640 Speaker 3: didn't tone it down in the George Floyd riots. They 723 00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:19,600 Speaker 3: aren't toning it down now. 724 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:21,000 Speaker 2: They want it. 725 00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:25,880 Speaker 3: Could you imagine what we would be seeing if it 726 00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,280 Speaker 3: wasn't winter in Minneapolis. 727 00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:35,719 Speaker 2: What you know, I'm right, everybody knows I'm right. If 728 00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:40,480 Speaker 2: it wasn't winter in Minneapolis, the violence would be off 729 00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:46,839 Speaker 2: the charts. The setting fire to police stations would be 730 00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:50,960 Speaker 2: an hourly occurrence. Not because I want it to be 731 00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,719 Speaker 2: that way, but because it would be that way. And 732 00:45:53,880 --> 00:46:00,319 Speaker 2: everybody knows it. You do not. 733 00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:05,280 Speaker 3: Come across as credible when you cry for Alex Pretty 734 00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:09,960 Speaker 3: and not for Lake and Riley. You don't come off 735 00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,839 Speaker 3: as credible when you say to the families of Good 736 00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,640 Speaker 3: and Pretty, we're thinking of you and you're not alone. 737 00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:17,160 Speaker 2: And you don't say that. 738 00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:22,640 Speaker 3: To any mom who has lost their child to an 739 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:28,279 Speaker 3: illegal alien, rapist and murder. It's hard for any of 740 00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:31,759 Speaker 3: us to think, Jimmy Kimmel. 741 00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:35,640 Speaker 2: That you believe it. 742 00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:39,919 Speaker 3: Hard But in case you do, in case you really 743 00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:43,600 Speaker 3: are shedding tears for these two, which you have every 744 00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:44,040 Speaker 3: right to. 745 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:46,759 Speaker 2: Note that it is. 746 00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:57,080 Speaker 3: Upsetting that you don't shed them for everybody else. Now, 747 00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,359 Speaker 3: if you ask me why I'm not crying, well, I'm 748 00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:03,440 Speaker 3: a man who can handle my emotions. Sometimes I have 749 00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:09,520 Speaker 3: my moments, certainly with family. My youngest announced that he 750 00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:13,680 Speaker 3: got into college just a little while ago, and we 751 00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,759 Speaker 3: knew it was a FATA company and a foregone conclusion. 752 00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:23,800 Speaker 2: But it's taking a unique path and it's just very cool. 753 00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:28,600 Speaker 3: And if you want to see me cry knowing that 754 00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:34,160 Speaker 3: my youngest has developed an idea of self and creating 755 00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:37,040 Speaker 3: a path, no knowledge of whether or not it will work, 756 00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,400 Speaker 3: but it's worth a shot, and I'm young enough, so 757 00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:44,839 Speaker 3: let's go do the thing and find out. Oh ah, 758 00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:48,160 Speaker 3: I'll spend the rest of the show in tears and 759 00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:56,840 Speaker 3: it'll be great. But you're selective, Jimmy, and that's just 760 00:47:56,920 --> 00:48:02,239 Speaker 3: as political as anything else. Don't sit there and tell 761 00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,920 Speaker 3: us that somehow you're this good guy who's doing the 762 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:05,680 Speaker 3: right thing and. 763 00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:10,640 Speaker 2: Is on the right side. Being on the side of 764 00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:14,560 Speaker 2: supporting the continuation of a legal immigration is not good. 765 00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,920 Speaker 2: Being on the side of things that I shouldn't be 766 00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:24,000 Speaker 2: able to do their job without being physically assaulted. Not good. 767 00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:32,560 Speaker 3: Tears for pretty and good and not for well. Do 768 00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:37,319 Speaker 3: I start giving a list. I don't know if that's 769 00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:42,400 Speaker 3: said good or not good, but it's certainly selective and 770 00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:44,120 Speaker 3: certainly smacks politically. 771 00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:48,919 Speaker 2: ICE should not stop. 772 00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:53,760 Speaker 3: ICE should remove every illegal immigrant, and all of those 773 00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:58,800 Speaker 3: engaged in violence against ICE agents should be arrested and prosecuted, 774 00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:03,359 Speaker 3: including those who supported them materially or otherwise, whether they are. 775 00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:04,200 Speaker 2: Elected or not. 776 00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:09,960 Speaker 3: And let's not see any more deaths caused by the 777 00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:16,840 Speaker 3: violent people engaging in violent acts. That would be great. 778 00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,840 Speaker 3: I'm Tony Katz in This is Tony Katz today, President 779 00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:26,000 Speaker 3: Trump speaking to the press just moments ago outside of 780 00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:30,680 Speaker 3: the White House talking about the investigation into Isa's actions 781 00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:32,040 Speaker 3: in Minneapolis. 782 00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:34,080 Speaker 11: Doctify. 783 00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:37,120 Speaker 12: But you know what, we're doing, a big investigation. I 784 00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:40,480 Speaker 12: want to be the investigation. I'm gonna be watching over it. 785 00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:43,839 Speaker 12: I want a very honorable and honest investigation. 786 00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:44,600 Speaker 2: I have to see it. 787 00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,480 Speaker 3: I want a very honorable and honest investigation, A very 788 00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:49,440 Speaker 3: big investigation. 789 00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:53,520 Speaker 2: I want to see. I think that the people who. 790 00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,880 Speaker 3: Think that Trump will gloss over this, I don't think 791 00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,840 Speaker 3: they understand the guy. I really don't think they understand 792 00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,840 Speaker 3: the president. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, good to be 793 00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:05,520 Speaker 3: with you. Where but true, I go to the phones. 794 00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:11,279 Speaker 3: My gosh. Sometimes sometimes I go to the phones just 795 00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:14,879 Speaker 3: to prove that I'm real right, that this is all 796 00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:16,520 Speaker 3: happening in real time. 797 00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,399 Speaker 2: Brad, Welcome to the show. Brad, what's going on? 798 00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:21,400 Speaker 4: What's up? 799 00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:24,080 Speaker 2: You tell me? You called me? What can I do 800 00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:24,400 Speaker 2: for you? 801 00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:30,440 Speaker 11: I just wanted to bring up the topic. I'm no expert, 802 00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:36,600 Speaker 11: but I'm greatly concerned because I looked like what all 803 00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:39,279 Speaker 11: of our politicians are saying and how the fraud has 804 00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:40,719 Speaker 11: been seemingly going on for. 805 00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,279 Speaker 2: Decades and had me thinking that. 806 00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:50,120 Speaker 11: Maybe the Democrats passed the baton onto the Republicans. 807 00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:52,680 Speaker 9: The Republicans never blew the lid. 808 00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:56,760 Speaker 13: From like for instance, Indiana nineteen eighty ninety, two thousand 809 00:50:56,760 --> 00:51:01,759 Speaker 13: and five, the Democratic Party was in control, and who 810 00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:05,560 Speaker 13: used to say that the Republicans were more. 811 00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:07,719 Speaker 11: Than keen and aware of what was going that would be. 812 00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:09,360 Speaker 9: And decided to pocket the money. 813 00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:11,400 Speaker 2: That would be a uniparty conversation. 814 00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:12,920 Speaker 3: But really quick, when you're talking about the fraud, you're 815 00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:17,080 Speaker 3: talking about like the daycare centers in Minnesota and healthcare 816 00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:18,520 Speaker 3: systs in Maine, et cetera. 817 00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:19,400 Speaker 2: Is that what you're referring to? 818 00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:24,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, Well, first I appreciate the phone call, Brad. 819 00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:29,560 Speaker 3: Anytime you remind America that this fraud has happened and 820 00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:31,359 Speaker 3: we haven't dealt with it. I think it's the right 821 00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:36,719 Speaker 3: thing to do, because this fraud has happened, and it's 822 00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:40,839 Speaker 3: the right thing to do. We need to know and 823 00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:45,880 Speaker 3: we need to find out what happened with these millions 824 00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,440 Speaker 3: of not billions of dollars that went to these daycare 825 00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:53,200 Speaker 3: centers run by Samali nationals or people from Samaya who 826 00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:56,720 Speaker 3: are now Americans. How they were able to make these 827 00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:58,160 Speaker 3: deals take place. 828 00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:03,080 Speaker 2: And where the money went. There are reports that money 829 00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:09,480 Speaker 2: was from US taxpayers ended up in some alias supporting 830 00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:14,360 Speaker 2: all shop right, the terrorist organization to the tune of 831 00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:17,440 Speaker 2: a million dollars. 832 00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:24,759 Speaker 3: A day moving through the Minneapolis airport. A million dollars 833 00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:28,680 Speaker 3: a day, And you thought the lifstanz A heist was something. 834 00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:34,879 Speaker 2: This is amazing. Who's going to jail now? 835 00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:38,279 Speaker 3: Admittedly there have been arrests and there have been convictions, 836 00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:42,200 Speaker 3: not enough because what you're I think asking, Brad, which 837 00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:46,280 Speaker 3: I think is the right question, what politicos were involved? 838 00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:49,560 Speaker 3: And do we see that everybody could get a little 839 00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:50,480 Speaker 3: taste of something? 840 00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:52,160 Speaker 2: And did it go both sides? 841 00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:54,520 Speaker 3: I don't have the answer to that question, and I 842 00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:59,560 Speaker 3: must tell you I don't care. Fraud was taking place. 843 00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:02,239 Speaker 3: Who's find off on the fraud, who looked the other 844 00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:05,480 Speaker 3: way on the fraud? Jail time? Who got a taste, 845 00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:07,120 Speaker 3: who got a peace, who got an envelope? 846 00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:08,560 Speaker 2: Who got something? Jail time? 847 00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:13,319 Speaker 3: And it's not just Minneapolis, in Maine. What they are 848 00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:17,359 Speaker 3: uncovering is massive Washington State, of course, California. 849 00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:22,640 Speaker 2: And I'm willing to bet you. 850 00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:33,239 Speaker 3: Any amount of money that all fifty states have this issue. 851 00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:37,960 Speaker 3: And if we actually uncovered all of the fraud. The 852 00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:42,560 Speaker 3: amount of money that we are being built for as 853 00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:48,600 Speaker 3: American citizens would be in the hundreds of billions of dollars. 854 00:53:51,120 --> 00:54:01,759 Speaker 2: What happens when we find that money? What happens when 855 00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:07,400 Speaker 2: that money is no longer going to these illicit causes, 856 00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:09,840 Speaker 2: When these people are. 857 00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:13,560 Speaker 3: In jail and we find out we don't need as 858 00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:15,239 Speaker 3: much money to run our government. 859 00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:17,799 Speaker 2: As we thought, we can get it back. Let's start 860 00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,680 Speaker 2: paying down debt. What are our opportunities? 861 00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:27,040 Speaker 3: I agree that no one has moved fast enough to 862 00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:27,640 Speaker 3: uncover this. 863 00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:35,520 Speaker 2: I want what you this Tony kats today. Three more things. Oh, 864 00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:38,600 Speaker 2: I have got stories for you, things that need to 865 00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:41,840 Speaker 2: be discussed but aren't making the front page. Tony Katz, 866 00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:42,760 Speaker 2: Tony Katz today. 867 00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,879 Speaker 3: First President Trump speaking in front of the White House 868 00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:48,640 Speaker 3: just a few moments ago about christin nom Yeah. 869 00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:50,959 Speaker 4: I think she's doing a very good job. 870 00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:52,879 Speaker 12: I think you're going a very good job. 871 00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:55,040 Speaker 2: The border is totally secure. 872 00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:55,239 Speaker 5: You know. 873 00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:58,640 Speaker 12: You forget, we had a border that I inherited. 874 00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:00,600 Speaker 2: We're millions of people. 875 00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:01,200 Speaker 4: Were coming through. 876 00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:04,240 Speaker 12: Now we have a border where no one is coming through. 877 00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:07,480 Speaker 12: They come into our country only legally. So you have 878 00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:10,040 Speaker 12: to remember those things. You know, people forget as soon 879 00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:13,080 Speaker 12: as you at top for something, it goes into history 880 00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:16,040 Speaker 12: and nobody ever wants to talk about it. We had 881 00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:19,680 Speaker 12: a border that caused all of this problem. Biden coursed 882 00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:23,880 Speaker 12: and the Democrat caused this problem. They allowed tens of 883 00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,920 Speaker 12: millions of people to come in. Many of them were murderers, 884 00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:31,400 Speaker 12: many were drug dealers, drug addicts, people from mental institutions. 885 00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:34,960 Speaker 2: They allowed these people to violate. 886 00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:36,360 Speaker 12: Our countries to come into our country. 887 00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:38,240 Speaker 4: And that's what we're talking about. 888 00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:41,400 Speaker 12: So if you remember, we had a horrible border, the 889 00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:45,759 Speaker 12: worst border we've ever had ever in history. People were 890 00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:49,640 Speaker 12: flowing through by we think twenty five million people, not 891 00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:53,320 Speaker 12: to mention drugs and everything else, and that border is 892 00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:54,600 Speaker 12: absolutely flow. 893 00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:59,160 Speaker 3: And it is so you know, in any time you 894 00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:03,640 Speaker 3: hear a full throat defense, you understand that all all 895 00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:08,239 Speaker 3: politics is local. And if the president should decide that 896 00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:13,480 Speaker 3: he wants to replace Christine Oman, will this commentary Notwithstanding. 897 00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:19,680 Speaker 2: That is true. Meanwhile, there's the possibility of. 898 00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:22,759 Speaker 3: A government shut down, as Democrats have now said, well, 899 00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,480 Speaker 3: we can't fund the government now. If you're going to 900 00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:28,759 Speaker 3: fund ICE, ICE must be defunded. We won't give them 901 00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:30,720 Speaker 3: any money, and we'll shut it down again. 902 00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:35,960 Speaker 2: Okay, if you. 903 00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:38,440 Speaker 3: Want to do that, if you want to go down 904 00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:42,759 Speaker 3: that road, you're more than welcome to give it a try. 905 00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:45,480 Speaker 2: They've already started seeing things up. 906 00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:49,480 Speaker 3: Susan Collins, who's the chair of Senate Appropriations, started moving 907 00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:55,400 Speaker 3: things forward. It's a six bill funding package, and John Fetterman, 908 00:56:56,560 --> 00:57:00,759 Speaker 3: the Democrat from Pennsylvania, said, I'm voting for this. I 909 00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:04,000 Speaker 3: want to change ice topics or ice tactics, or I 910 00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:05,600 Speaker 3: might want to change this and nice and not nice, 911 00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:06,799 Speaker 3: but I'm not defunding it. 912 00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:07,440 Speaker 2: Absolutely not. 913 00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:14,520 Speaker 3: I am voting for it. So set up Minority Leader 914 00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:20,240 Speaker 3: Chuck Schumer. They are against the broader package, which includes 915 00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:24,840 Speaker 3: the homeland funding bill, and Senate Democrats are trying to 916 00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:29,360 Speaker 3: mobilize the opposition and figure out a way to get 917 00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:31,760 Speaker 3: this out. If they have to shut things down again, 918 00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:34,840 Speaker 3: they will. They think that this is a winner. But 919 00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:37,600 Speaker 3: Fetterman is saying, I'm not going to be part of 920 00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:38,240 Speaker 3: a shutdown. 921 00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:44,040 Speaker 2: I'm going to vote for this and that's it. That's 922 00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:45,200 Speaker 2: all that's going to happen. 923 00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:51,800 Speaker 3: Now, what really comes from this is the conversation about 924 00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:58,320 Speaker 3: ending the filibuster. Is this where the Republicans now say, 925 00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:02,320 Speaker 3: you know what, you people, you're ridiculous people. We end 926 00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:05,680 Speaker 3: the filibuster, and we just start getting things passed with 927 00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:08,080 Speaker 3: fifty one votes, and even in fifty to fifty we've 928 00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:10,120 Speaker 3: got the tie break, we win, you lose twice. 929 00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:12,880 Speaker 2: Never. Thus we're going to move forward. 930 00:58:13,480 --> 00:58:16,440 Speaker 3: This was a conversation with President Trump during the first shutdown. 931 00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:24,600 Speaker 3: I said the President was wrong, absolutely wrong, in order 932 00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:27,520 Speaker 3: to end the filibuster right. Ending the filibuster means you 933 00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:30,800 Speaker 3: do not have this sixty vote threshold anymore. Sixty votes 934 00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:33,320 Speaker 3: to open debate, sixty votes to close debate, and then 935 00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:35,640 Speaker 3: bring it to a vote that is referred to as 936 00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:42,080 Speaker 3: cloture CLO t U r E. If you eliminate the filibuster, 937 00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:46,560 Speaker 3: you eliminate this need and things just go to votes. 938 00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:51,040 Speaker 3: You don't have to worry about opening debate, closing debate, 939 00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:53,840 Speaker 3: no no, no, no boom, right to the vote. 940 00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:58,800 Speaker 2: As I understand, philibuster, that's what we're talking about here. 941 00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:04,840 Speaker 3: Yes, Republicans can do this, because everybody understands that Democrats 942 00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:08,640 Speaker 3: absolutely will do this the second they have power. My 943 00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:13,720 Speaker 3: argument was during the first shutdown was that if you 944 00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:19,840 Speaker 3: are going to remove the filibuster and the filibuster. 945 00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:24,800 Speaker 2: You must now have a plan. What is the plan? 946 00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:28,920 Speaker 3: Now that you've done this, you have to know the 947 00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:30,640 Speaker 3: legislation you want to get passed. 948 00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:32,960 Speaker 2: You have to know the whip count where you are 949 00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:33,640 Speaker 2: with the votes. 950 00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:36,080 Speaker 3: You have to be able to hold a very very 951 00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:39,400 Speaker 3: fragile majority in this case, and you have to be 952 00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:44,440 Speaker 3: able to move with speed. A plan has to be 953 00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:48,000 Speaker 3: in place. And I put forth to you that the 954 00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:55,400 Speaker 3: Republican Party has no plan. They have ideas, they have 955 00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:58,920 Speaker 3: legislation that I would approve of, but they don't have 956 00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:02,720 Speaker 3: what I just laid out, a system and the people 957 01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:05,160 Speaker 3: to engage the system and follow the system and make 958 01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:10,240 Speaker 3: sure there are no hiccups along the way. 959 01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:12,600 Speaker 2: And until you have that, I want to hear the rest. 960 01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:17,800 Speaker 3: Until you are ready to deal with this like you should, 961 01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:19,720 Speaker 3: we'll get rid of phil Buster. And then here's the 962 01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:21,919 Speaker 3: eight things we're getting done. Boom boom boom boom boom 963 01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:22,800 Speaker 3: boom boom boom. 964 01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:26,240 Speaker 2: That was eight, by the way I counted it out. Nope, 965 01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:29,240 Speaker 2: absolutely not. 966 01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:38,640 Speaker 3: And of course what the Democrats are saying is the 967 01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:41,560 Speaker 3: responsibility to prevent a partial government shutdown is on leader 968 01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:44,959 Speaker 3: throne and Senate Republicans. If Leader Thun puts those five 969 01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:47,200 Speaker 3: bills on the floor this week, we can pass them 970 01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:50,760 Speaker 3: right away. If not, Republicans will again be responsible for 971 01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:53,960 Speaker 3: another government shutdown. No one blames Republicans for the first one, 972 01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:57,880 Speaker 3: and like many shutdowns, it gets forgotten, maybe not by 973 01:00:57,920 --> 01:00:58,440 Speaker 3: the people. 974 01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:01,520 Speaker 2: Who didn't get paid, but by everybody else did. And 975 01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:04,440 Speaker 2: as I said, in the first shutdowns, Democrats lost a shutdown, 976 01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:07,000 Speaker 2: but they won the larger war because they won a 977 01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:11,880 Speaker 2: New Jersey and they won in Virginia. There's no election 978 01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:17,600 Speaker 2: right now, there's only Democrats saying we do not want 979 01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:23,880 Speaker 2: to support removing the legal immigrants. Then there is the story. 980 01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:29,440 Speaker 3: Of these anti American Marxist zelots who tried to stop 981 01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:35,560 Speaker 3: Christians from praying, helped by Don Lemon, who absolutely should 982 01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:36,200 Speaker 3: be charged. 983 01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:40,240 Speaker 2: Some of them were charged, some of them were arrested. 984 01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:46,680 Speaker 3: I only hope, I only hope they go to jail. 985 01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:50,760 Speaker 3: But these people want to claim that they were just 986 01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:52,960 Speaker 3: so peaceful and they were so nice, and they were 987 01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:54,000 Speaker 3: just standing up. 988 01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:55,120 Speaker 2: For their neighbors. 989 01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:59,080 Speaker 3: They weren't peaceful, and they weren't nice, and they were 990 01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:05,360 Speaker 3: screaming and yeah, and intimidating. They're disgusting. Well, now there 991 01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:14,600 Speaker 3: is a write up about how these agitators were blocking 992 01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:23,120 Speaker 3: the stairs, and as the story goes, Victim four informed 993 01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:26,560 Speaker 3: agents that members of their parish attempted to retrieve their 994 01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:31,560 Speaker 3: children from the childcare area located downstairs, but the agitators 995 01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:34,920 Speaker 3: were blocking the stairs and the parents were unable to 996 01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:39,760 Speaker 3: get to their children. Victim four recalled one agitator was threatening, aggressive, 997 01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:44,520 Speaker 3: and intimidating towards parishioners. Additionally, this agitator was screaming and 998 01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:47,760 Speaker 3: getting in people's faces, to include women and children. The 999 01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:50,680 Speaker 3: agitator continued to scream in the faces of young children 1000 01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:56,000 Speaker 3: while they were crying. It's at this moment I must 1001 01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:58,720 Speaker 3: say again how I disagree would turn the other cheek. 1002 01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:04,960 Speaker 3: I'm not going to get Christians not to be Christian, 1003 01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:10,280 Speaker 3: and that's not my want. I am going to get 1004 01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:13,080 Speaker 3: my child, and you stand in my way. I don't 1005 01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:19,160 Speaker 3: care what happens next you. Is it really different when 1006 01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:21,880 Speaker 3: you're in the situation, you're in my way. You're gonna 1007 01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:23,400 Speaker 3: stop me from getting to my kid? 1008 01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:30,320 Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no no no no. 1009 01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:38,200 Speaker 3: Whatever I have at my disposal, I'm going to utilize 1010 01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:42,040 Speaker 3: to move you out of the equation and get my kids. 1011 01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:49,200 Speaker 3: But this is an example of exactly what kind of 1012 01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:50,280 Speaker 3: people you were dealing with. 1013 01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:52,520 Speaker 2: Oh, they were. 1014 01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:55,920 Speaker 3: Just expressing themselves and engaging their First Amendment rights. 1015 01:03:56,360 --> 01:04:00,680 Speaker 2: No they weren't. This is what Don Lemon and supports. 1016 01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:07,200 Speaker 3: What a filthy guy, What an absolutely terrible person. He 1017 01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:10,440 Speaker 3: supports keeping parents from their kids. That's who he is. 1018 01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:12,520 Speaker 3: And then he wants to talk about being pious. And 1019 01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:14,120 Speaker 3: if you say anything about him, it's. 1020 01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:16,680 Speaker 2: Because he's gay, and it's because he's black. Don. It's 1021 01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:19,280 Speaker 2: not because you're gay or black. It's because you're a jerk. 1022 01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:23,640 Speaker 3: You're a pompous, elitist, self righteous scumbag. 1023 01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:26,880 Speaker 2: You helped lead this. You should be in jail for it. 1024 01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:29,880 Speaker 2: And I don't care if you like me, screw you. 1025 01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:34,560 Speaker 2: And if Don Lemon was trying to keep me from 1026 01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:37,280 Speaker 2: getting to my kids, Lauren only knows what would happen 1027 01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:37,920 Speaker 2: to Don. 1028 01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:42,560 Speaker 3: Lemon or anybody else. I mean, what kind of society 1029 01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:45,640 Speaker 3: is it where you think it's okay, Where someone thinks 1030 01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:50,880 Speaker 3: okay not you because of their anger, you don't get 1031 01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:56,840 Speaker 3: to be near your children. Can't wait until America hears 1032 01:04:56,880 --> 01:05:01,439 Speaker 3: more about that, And let me lighten it up. It's 1033 01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:05,960 Speaker 3: something I don't often get a chance to do, but 1034 01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:08,920 Speaker 3: when I do get the chance, I do like to 1035 01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:14,240 Speaker 3: bring it to you right here. I think I've got it. 1036 01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:17,320 Speaker 3: I think I've got it set. Oh where is it? 1037 01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:22,320 Speaker 2: Oh? Here? It is your car's seat built safety miracle 1038 01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:27,280 Speaker 2: or decapitation nightmare. What is the connection between rain and farming? 1039 01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:31,760 Speaker 2: The answer may surprise you. Beroe having sex, machine guns, 1040 01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:35,919 Speaker 2: flame throwers, murder. There's no story here. We've just found 1041 01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:38,360 Speaker 2: that ratings go up when we say those words. It's 1042 01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:40,640 Speaker 2: time for the worst headline of the day. 1043 01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:45,880 Speaker 3: Skiers suffers brutal mauling after stepping within ten feet of 1044 01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:47,320 Speaker 3: snow leopard for photo. 1045 01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:55,080 Speaker 2: Is what is wrong with people? 1046 01:05:56,280 --> 01:06:06,240 Speaker 3: This is a horrifying story. This woman is skiing. This 1047 01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:11,840 Speaker 3: woman wants to take a picture of a snow leopard. 1048 01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:20,040 Speaker 3: It's a snow leopard, which the operative word here is leopard. 1049 01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:25,440 Speaker 2: And she's like, oh, how cute. Let me take a photo. 1050 01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:28,360 Speaker 3: This at least how the story goes, and she gets 1051 01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:30,560 Speaker 3: she walks up to the leopard. W She's like these 1052 01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:32,800 Speaker 3: people who are at a national park and they'll walk 1053 01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:35,320 Speaker 3: like up to a bison or a moose and not 1054 01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:37,120 Speaker 3: think that they're gonna be charged to me. Hey, let 1055 01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:39,640 Speaker 3: me get this picture with this bear. It's just a 1056 01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:42,680 Speaker 3: bit was that brown? Oh, that means it's safe. And 1057 01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:55,080 Speaker 3: she got really damaged. She was really hurt. And not 1058 01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:58,360 Speaker 3: only did she get attacked mauled, as they say, the 1059 01:06:58,480 --> 01:06:59,439 Speaker 3: leopard didn't leave. 1060 01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:00,960 Speaker 2: She's just laying in the snow. 1061 01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:07,280 Speaker 3: They had to wait for the leopard to move before 1062 01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:08,840 Speaker 3: they could get to this woman. 1063 01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:20,640 Speaker 2: Certifiable. It's nature and nature wants you to die. So 1064 01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:22,520 Speaker 2: would you please be. 1065 01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:27,720 Speaker 3: Just somewhat smart and somewhat safe, that'd be fantastic. 1066 01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:31,400 Speaker 2: I'm Tony Kats and this is Tony Katz Today, so. 1067 01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:34,240 Speaker 3: It's gonna take this moment to talk about Sidney Sweeney's bras, 1068 01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:39,800 Speaker 3: which is not something I ever expected to say on 1069 01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:40,280 Speaker 3: the show. 1070 01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:45,720 Speaker 2: I mean, it wasn't totally unexpected. Still, Tony Katz, Tony 1071 01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:49,880 Speaker 2: Katz Today, good to be with you, and how she 1072 01:07:50,080 --> 01:07:52,400 Speaker 2: tried to put them on the Hollywood Sign and now 1073 01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:56,240 Speaker 2: it's possible she's engaged in a crime for doing so. 1074 01:07:57,200 --> 01:08:00,240 Speaker 2: I'll get to it on the radio side in the 1075 01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:00,760 Speaker 2: next hour. 1076 01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:05,720 Speaker 3: But no, I'm sorry, Sidney Sweeney's bra got bumped right 1077 01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:06,960 Speaker 3: off the front page. 1078 01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:13,200 Speaker 2: Here because CNN is reporting. CNN is reporting. 1079 01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:15,560 Speaker 3: That Alex Pretty, the man shot and killed by ICE 1080 01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:17,960 Speaker 3: who got engaged with ICE and was tracking Ice. 1081 01:08:18,040 --> 01:08:19,160 Speaker 2: We've been discussing it here. 1082 01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:24,040 Speaker 3: He had had a run in with ICE a week 1083 01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:27,559 Speaker 3: before where he got a broken rib. 1084 01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:32,519 Speaker 14: CNN is learning that Alex Pretty had a physical encounter 1085 01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:35,599 Speaker 14: with federal agents about a week before he was shot 1086 01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:38,960 Speaker 14: and killed by law enforcement. Sources tel CNN that Pretty 1087 01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:42,240 Speaker 14: broke a rib when a group of federal officers tackled 1088 01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:46,320 Speaker 14: him while he was protesting. Priscilla Alvarez is breaking that 1089 01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:47,200 Speaker 14: story for us. 1090 01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:52,280 Speaker 2: What else are you hearing? Priscilla protesting fighting? What happened? 1091 01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:55,639 Speaker 15: Dan I, we're learning more details along with my colleague 1092 01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:59,719 Speaker 15: Jeff Winter, about what exactly transpired a week before Alex 1093 01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:03,000 Speaker 15: Prett was shot in Minneapolis and died. 1094 01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:03,679 Speaker 2: This past weekend. 1095 01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:07,840 Speaker 15: Now, in this earlier incident, he stopped his car after 1096 01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:12,160 Speaker 15: observing ICE agents chasing what he described as a family 1097 01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:16,320 Speaker 15: on foot, and began shouting and blowing his whistle. Preddie 1098 01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:19,439 Speaker 15: later told one of these sources that five agents tackled 1099 01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:23,479 Speaker 15: him and one leaned pat on his back, appearing to 1100 01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:26,679 Speaker 15: leave him with a broken rib. According to this source, 1101 01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:30,040 Speaker 15: and I'm quoting here that said quote that day he 1102 01:09:30,160 --> 01:09:33,479 Speaker 15: thought he was going to die. Now, Freddy was later 1103 01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:36,960 Speaker 15: given medication that is consistent with treating a broken rib, 1104 01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:41,320 Speaker 15: according to records reviewed by CNN. Versus also say that 1105 01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:44,719 Speaker 15: he was known to federal law enforcement, though it's unclear 1106 01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:48,360 Speaker 15: whether it was this incident or another with federal agents 1107 01:09:48,439 --> 01:09:51,760 Speaker 15: that they knew him, they knew of him. 1108 01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:54,160 Speaker 2: It's also unclear what do you mean they knew of him? 1109 01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:56,240 Speaker 2: What do you mean they knew of him? 1110 01:09:57,080 --> 01:09:59,840 Speaker 3: So he had agitated before, he had tried to imp 1111 01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:03,639 Speaker 3: Ice before. Was there a physical encounter that he started 1112 01:10:03,680 --> 01:10:11,639 Speaker 3: with ICE? Or was he just randomly tackled in every 1113 01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:17,080 Speaker 3: moment the Left is telling you a story. Remember they 1114 01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:18,080 Speaker 3: told you that Hunter. 1115 01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:21,800 Speaker 2: Biden's laptop was rushing this information, and they told you 1116 01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:25,559 Speaker 2: everything they said about COVID was real. Take a moment, 1117 01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:30,719 Speaker 2: take a breath, give it time, and you will find 1118 01:10:31,040 --> 01:10:38,759 Speaker 2: that the truth eventually reveals itself. This, this might change 1119 01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:42,519 Speaker 2: a lot of people's opinions. Might not still let some 1120 01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:44,960 Speaker 2: ICE agents off the hook. But I'll let you know 1121 01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:46,720 Speaker 2: what it is they're up against to keep it here. 1122 01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:48,439 Speaker 4: This is Tony Katz that I. 1123 01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:59,920 Speaker 1: Lie from baal Hartbyer and the Crossroads of America. 1124 01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:01,599 Speaker 2: It's Tony Katz today. 1125 01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:06,120 Speaker 3: As the expression goes, follow the money, right, It's always 1126 01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:07,639 Speaker 3: follow the money. 1127 01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:10,519 Speaker 2: And if you do that, eventually you're. 1128 01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:13,160 Speaker 3: Going to figure out what it is that's actually going 1129 01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:17,559 Speaker 3: on with well, any situation. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, 1130 01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:19,640 Speaker 3: Good to be here, Good to be with you. This 1131 01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:22,680 Speaker 3: is true in what we see in Minneapolis and what 1132 01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:26,240 Speaker 3: we see in a lot of left cities. When you 1133 01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:28,880 Speaker 3: take a look at the writing, when you take a 1134 01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:32,240 Speaker 3: look at the so called protesting, and you're like, where 1135 01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:34,720 Speaker 3: do these people get the money? And you look at 1136 01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:37,519 Speaker 3: the organization, how in the world is this happening? Where 1137 01:11:37,560 --> 01:11:39,920 Speaker 3: are they getting this money? And you follow the money 1138 01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:44,720 Speaker 3: and there's clearly, to every rational person, there's clearly a 1139 01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:45,360 Speaker 3: money trail. 1140 01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:48,439 Speaker 2: They're getting paid. There is a funding here. 1141 01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:53,000 Speaker 3: All this coordination that we've heard about regarding these anti Ice, 1142 01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:56,800 Speaker 3: these pro Marxist communists, anti American protesters, they are what 1143 01:11:56,840 --> 01:11:59,400 Speaker 3: they are. Please don't ask me to change the way 1144 01:11:59,439 --> 01:12:01,719 Speaker 3: I speak about it. I think we all just need 1145 01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:03,760 Speaker 3: to be grown ups and accept the fact that this is. 1146 01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:04,200 Speaker 2: What it is. 1147 01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:08,799 Speaker 3: They're anti American. It's what they are, whether they're American 1148 01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:11,920 Speaker 3: or not engaged in it. They are trying to usurp 1149 01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:15,000 Speaker 3: the duly elected president. They're trying to usurp his authority. 1150 01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:17,479 Speaker 3: They are trying to prevent the country from being safe. 1151 01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:20,479 Speaker 3: That's insurrection me. I think we should be going full 1152 01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:25,080 Speaker 3: boor at these people. Protesters are people saying I disagree. 1153 01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:29,479 Speaker 3: Violent agitators are violent agitators. It's easy to see the difference. 1154 01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:33,320 Speaker 3: But these people are organized, man. I mean, this whole 1155 01:12:33,320 --> 01:12:37,400 Speaker 3: thing as reported by Cam Higbee, and you've got Schellenberger 1156 01:12:37,479 --> 01:12:41,040 Speaker 3: now talking about this, Michael Shellenberger and a host of others, 1157 01:12:41,360 --> 01:12:45,160 Speaker 3: and the connections and the ability to track license plates 1158 01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:48,080 Speaker 3: and who's on the inside and elected officials like the 1159 01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:52,960 Speaker 3: Lieutenant governor Peggy Flanagan or connected Andy no NNGO is 1160 01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:55,960 Speaker 3: how he spells his last name, and he was able 1161 01:12:56,040 --> 01:12:59,600 Speaker 3: to infiltrate these groups on this app signal which is 1162 01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:03,800 Speaker 3: supposed to have private communications, and how they're all concerned 1163 01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:05,880 Speaker 3: and worried now because the Right has figured out how 1164 01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:08,040 Speaker 3: they're talking to each other and coordinating. 1165 01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:11,440 Speaker 2: This doesn't happen in a vacuum. 1166 01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:15,120 Speaker 3: Certainly, there are people who are true believers and when 1167 01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:17,759 Speaker 3: do this stuff because they hate American want. 1168 01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:20,880 Speaker 2: To do this stuff. But other people are paid to 1169 01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:23,439 Speaker 2: do these things, and they're not necessarily paid by Okay, 1170 01:13:23,439 --> 01:13:27,280 Speaker 2: here's your paycheck, but rather Hey, here's lunch. Hey, here's 1171 01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:30,200 Speaker 2: your sign. Hey, here's this, Hey, here's that. 1172 01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:33,240 Speaker 3: Hey, can you do me a favor and pass these 1173 01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:35,240 Speaker 3: out and keep a little bit of this for yourself here. 1174 01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:37,280 Speaker 2: It's those kinds of things. 1175 01:13:38,439 --> 01:13:42,040 Speaker 3: Maybe on a certain organizational level there's payment, but everything 1176 01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:44,880 Speaker 3: else is just kind of like a gimme. It's like, hey, 1177 01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:46,960 Speaker 3: I'll give you a pack of cigarettes if you get 1178 01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:48,559 Speaker 3: in this van with me and then go vote. 1179 01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:51,799 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because that never happened in the United States. 1180 01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:55,519 Speaker 2: Never once, never, ever did that happen. Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, 1181 01:13:55,520 --> 01:13:56,960 Speaker 2: no no, don't be silly. 1182 01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:03,120 Speaker 3: All the money, but not all of it is so 1183 01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:06,960 Speaker 3: you know, in the ether. Some of the money is 1184 01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:09,200 Speaker 3: just really easy to see. And it's true on the 1185 01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:12,320 Speaker 3: left and it's true on the right. The New York 1186 01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:17,439 Speaker 3: Post had a story going back to last year about 1187 01:14:17,439 --> 01:14:20,880 Speaker 3: the Dark Money group paying pro Democrat influencers up to 1188 01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:23,080 Speaker 3: eight thousand dollars a month. 1189 01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:27,080 Speaker 2: The Chorus Creator Incubator program. 1190 01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:31,519 Speaker 3: It was funded by something called the sixteen thirty Fund, 1191 01:14:32,160 --> 01:14:35,599 Speaker 3: and it's supposed to be an answer to the Coca Network. Right, 1192 01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:38,880 Speaker 3: David Coke, Charles Coke, Americans Prosperity, and a whole host 1193 01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:42,000 Speaker 3: of other organizations. I've done work with AFP before, I've 1194 01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:44,360 Speaker 3: received checks from AFP before. 1195 01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:47,040 Speaker 2: I apologize for nothing. The difference between me and maybe 1196 01:14:47,080 --> 01:14:48,280 Speaker 2: everybody else is I'm. 1197 01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:52,200 Speaker 3: Totally upfront about it. I say everything, and people get 1198 01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:55,160 Speaker 3: weirded out by I hear you. I understand it. 1199 01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:55,800 Speaker 2: Man. 1200 01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:58,200 Speaker 3: The only way I think you can have a conversation 1201 01:14:58,280 --> 01:15:00,400 Speaker 3: with people is let him know where you're at. Let 1202 01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:03,800 Speaker 3: them know the connections, the connections and the connectivity. 1203 01:15:03,880 --> 01:15:06,160 Speaker 2: Sorry, if I could talk, I'd make a great radio host. 1204 01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:08,240 Speaker 3: You gotta let them know. You gotta be honest and 1205 01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:12,519 Speaker 3: upfront about these things. Oh, I absolutely have. I have 1206 01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:15,120 Speaker 3: not done work with AFP and well over a year, 1207 01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:18,360 Speaker 3: and if that changes, I'll tell you one hundred percent. 1208 01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:24,120 Speaker 3: But the idea that I speak at an organization I 1209 01:15:24,160 --> 01:15:26,719 Speaker 3: get paid for the speech. I get paid to speak. 1210 01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:29,559 Speaker 2: I know I have. Sometimes I get asked to speak 1211 01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:32,400 Speaker 2: at events and then people are like, amazing, wait, wait, 1212 01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:35,519 Speaker 2: you're gonna charge us? That's not right. I'm sorry. I 1213 01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:39,719 Speaker 2: didn't realize the capitalism somehow stopped with you. It doesn't. 1214 01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:43,200 Speaker 3: So I if I'm doing work, if I'm speaking, if 1215 01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:46,560 Speaker 3: I'm traveling, whatever, absolutely a thousand percent. I charge for 1216 01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:48,240 Speaker 3: my time and my skill set and everything else, and 1217 01:15:48,280 --> 01:15:50,840 Speaker 3: you should too, for your time and your skill set. 1218 01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:52,280 Speaker 3: One hundred percent of people don't. 1219 01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:52,479 Speaker 2: Want to pay it. 1220 01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:54,160 Speaker 3: Okay, they don't want to pay it. You can change 1221 01:15:54,160 --> 01:15:57,439 Speaker 3: what you charge or or that's that. So I don't 1222 01:15:57,520 --> 01:16:01,200 Speaker 3: mind that people get paid. The issue is whether or 1223 01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:05,519 Speaker 3: not it is being disclosed. So the story talks about 1224 01:16:05,560 --> 01:16:10,759 Speaker 3: someone named Olivia Juliana, a gen Z activist. I'm like, okay, 1225 01:16:10,840 --> 01:16:14,040 Speaker 3: I have no idea who Olivia Juliana is. 1226 01:16:14,160 --> 01:16:15,479 Speaker 2: I don't think i've ever seen a picture. 1227 01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:21,320 Speaker 3: I'm looking out, Oh that's Olivia Juliana. Olivia Juliana is 1228 01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:23,559 Speaker 3: this heavyset woman who was. 1229 01:16:23,560 --> 01:16:25,760 Speaker 2: Going to be the one who was going. 1230 01:16:25,720 --> 01:16:32,360 Speaker 3: To bring gen Z men back into the Democratic Party. 1231 01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:37,120 Speaker 2: That was never ever going to happen. 1232 01:16:37,880 --> 01:16:41,160 Speaker 3: She spoke of the twenty twenty four Democratic National Convention, 1233 01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:47,160 Speaker 3: and then they had a couple other people that they 1234 01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:52,240 Speaker 3: mentioned and how they're getting paid, Well, yeah, you're getting paid. 1235 01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:57,000 Speaker 3: No one is surprised that these people are getting paid. 1236 01:16:58,120 --> 01:17:02,000 Speaker 3: We just saw that there was a trip to Qatar, 1237 01:17:04,040 --> 01:17:07,000 Speaker 3: right or do you call it cutter whatever, And it 1238 01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:11,400 Speaker 3: got noticed that there were a huge amount of MAGA 1239 01:17:11,439 --> 01:17:17,439 Speaker 3: folk on this trip, Emily Wilson, Caitlin Sinclair, Rob Smith, 1240 01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:23,160 Speaker 3: and there were members of Congress on this trip, including 1241 01:17:23,800 --> 01:17:26,639 Speaker 3: Indiana Congressman Marlin Stutsman, who I know is not too 1242 01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:28,839 Speaker 3: far away from me here, not my member of Congress, 1243 01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:30,960 Speaker 3: but still I had him on the show, like, what 1244 01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:31,840 Speaker 3: in the world is this? 1245 01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:36,160 Speaker 2: What is this for? What reason do you take the 1246 01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:37,000 Speaker 2: trip to Katar? 1247 01:17:38,400 --> 01:17:43,440 Speaker 3: If you told me that these people were funded, I 1248 01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:47,000 Speaker 3: are getting paid for their activism, I wouldn't be surprised, 1249 01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:49,240 Speaker 3: and as long as they were disclosing it, I wouldn't 1250 01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:54,280 Speaker 3: even really be upset, depending on who was doing the funding. 1251 01:17:55,720 --> 01:18:00,200 Speaker 2: But if you're getting funded by cutter, we'll call cutter 1252 01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:05,719 Speaker 2: k not guitar, that's an issue. Who are you being 1253 01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:08,479 Speaker 2: funded by? Matters greatly. 1254 01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:14,680 Speaker 3: Acknowledging that the money is coming matters greatly, and we 1255 01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:19,200 Speaker 3: shouldn't pretend that it doesn't, and we shouldn't pretend that 1256 01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:24,040 Speaker 3: on any side of the aisle that everything is just oh, 1257 01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:27,400 Speaker 3: not your all right. It's just I'm out there saying 1258 01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:30,160 Speaker 3: that this is what I believe. I'm not saying that 1259 01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:33,560 Speaker 3: isn't true. In some cases, I can speak for myself. 1260 01:18:34,160 --> 01:18:37,840 Speaker 3: Do I have radio sponsors, Absolutely, I have radio sponsors. 1261 01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:41,320 Speaker 3: Do I have video sponsors right for the live streams 1262 01:18:41,360 --> 01:18:46,360 Speaker 3: and everything? Absolutely I do. Have I ever received a 1263 01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:49,800 Speaker 3: note from any of them about, hey, don't forget to 1264 01:18:49,800 --> 01:18:50,240 Speaker 3: say this. 1265 01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:54,479 Speaker 2: Nope, not a one, not never, not ever. 1266 01:18:55,120 --> 01:18:58,000 Speaker 3: They are sponsors of what I do because they're aligned 1267 01:18:58,040 --> 01:18:58,720 Speaker 3: with what it is. 1268 01:18:58,880 --> 01:18:59,599 Speaker 2: I'm saying. 1269 01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:03,680 Speaker 3: Where my thoughts are, where my philosophies are, that I 1270 01:19:03,760 --> 01:19:07,519 Speaker 3: bring about a cogent, rational conversation that I'm willing to 1271 01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:12,800 Speaker 3: engage and entertain. Another thought, that I do not shy 1272 01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:19,240 Speaker 3: away from saying, here's a philosophy that I think is 1273 01:19:19,360 --> 01:19:24,240 Speaker 3: better for society writ large. Oh, and also that I 1274 01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:30,040 Speaker 3: use expressions like writ large. I have never once been told, hey, 1275 01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:33,240 Speaker 3: we want to pay We'll only pay you if you 1276 01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:36,000 Speaker 3: talk about this. No, wait, I take that back. I 1277 01:19:36,040 --> 01:19:40,320 Speaker 3: have never once accepted anybody where, hey, you have to 1278 01:19:40,320 --> 01:19:43,280 Speaker 3: talk about this. I've been asked to do things and 1279 01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:45,479 Speaker 3: I will not get into that. Because I said no, 1280 01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:49,599 Speaker 3: it's or I just let the conversation die on the vine, 1281 01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:53,600 Speaker 3: which is usually not my style but sometimes is the 1282 01:19:53,720 --> 01:19:58,040 Speaker 3: right way to do things. Just you know what, They've 1283 01:19:58,080 --> 01:19:59,800 Speaker 3: asked a bunch of people, and I'll just show no, 1284 01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:01,559 Speaker 3: just and they'll go on to the other people and 1285 01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:05,439 Speaker 3: that's it. Yeah, because it doesn't work, it doesn't connect 1286 01:20:05,479 --> 01:20:09,280 Speaker 3: with me. I'm not going to be able to sell that. 1287 01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:11,679 Speaker 3: But I'm not one hundred percent sure I'm down with 1288 01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:13,680 Speaker 3: what it is that you're trying to sell. It's not 1289 01:20:13,720 --> 01:20:17,120 Speaker 3: that I'm angry about it or or have a major oppositions. 1290 01:20:17,120 --> 01:20:19,040 Speaker 3: It's like I don't see where I fit in this. 1291 01:20:20,160 --> 01:20:24,360 Speaker 3: The same thing is true with sponsors. It's like financial planners. Now, 1292 01:20:24,439 --> 01:20:26,720 Speaker 3: I have somebody who is a financial planner, but I 1293 01:20:26,840 --> 01:20:30,679 Speaker 3: never say who, and I don't do advertisements for financial planners. 1294 01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:34,479 Speaker 3: And the reason I don't is that if I recommend 1295 01:20:34,520 --> 01:20:37,600 Speaker 3: a carpet company to you and the carpet. 1296 01:20:37,240 --> 01:20:38,639 Speaker 2: Doesn't come out right, it's a carpet. 1297 01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:41,880 Speaker 3: If I recommend the financial planner to you and you 1298 01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:44,360 Speaker 3: lose all your life savings, I can't sleep at night, 1299 01:20:45,320 --> 01:20:47,200 Speaker 3: and so I won't do it. I won't touch it 1300 01:20:48,040 --> 01:20:52,200 Speaker 3: on a personal endorsement level. I will not endorse a 1301 01:20:52,240 --> 01:20:55,799 Speaker 3: financial planner. No, no, no, no, no, because what happens 1302 01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:57,920 Speaker 3: if I start talking about policy and all of a 1303 01:20:57,920 --> 01:20:59,280 Speaker 3: sudden they're like, well, you know it'd be better for 1304 01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:02,960 Speaker 3: our business talked about this. Can't have that. Never mind, 1305 01:21:02,960 --> 01:21:05,240 Speaker 3: I can't let sleep if you lose the money. I 1306 01:21:05,360 --> 01:21:06,400 Speaker 3: just won't be a part of. 1307 01:21:06,400 --> 01:21:07,160 Speaker 2: Any of those things. 1308 01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:11,320 Speaker 3: But we all and I'm really on the record on this, 1309 01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:13,800 Speaker 3: I'm very clear about this, but we know that there 1310 01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:15,759 Speaker 3: are people who are absolutely doing. 1311 01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:16,840 Speaker 2: It for the money. 1312 01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:20,160 Speaker 3: The problem is, it's becomes a hard thing to just 1313 01:21:20,240 --> 01:21:22,600 Speaker 3: make an accusation of right, this is all this is. 1314 01:21:22,600 --> 01:21:26,759 Speaker 3: For example, the Tucker Carlson conversation about Cutter and whether 1315 01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:28,120 Speaker 3: or not he's paid. 1316 01:21:28,800 --> 01:21:34,960 Speaker 2: Now, Cutter does intense lobbying. Cutter does more lobbying than Israel. 1317 01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:36,720 Speaker 2: They do. 1318 01:21:38,280 --> 01:21:44,280 Speaker 3: They do more lobbying than for example, APAK, which is 1319 01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:49,639 Speaker 3: not Israel, it's Americans, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee. 1320 01:21:51,200 --> 01:21:55,400 Speaker 3: Cutter since twenty fifteen has spent two hundred and forty 1321 01:21:55,400 --> 01:22:01,040 Speaker 3: three million dollars two forty I mean million dollars in 1322 01:22:01,080 --> 01:22:08,839 Speaker 3: lobbying since twenty fifteen, APAC fifty million, so they're being beat. 1323 01:22:08,680 --> 01:22:11,840 Speaker 2: Five to one. Is that five times as much? 1324 01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:14,200 Speaker 3: And yet no, it says, oh my gosh, Cutter is 1325 01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:17,240 Speaker 3: trying to run our foreign policy. No, Cutter's trying to 1326 01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:21,599 Speaker 3: run America's foreign policy. And there's a real question about 1327 01:22:21,680 --> 01:22:28,320 Speaker 3: whether or not Tucker Carlson does he take money from 1328 01:22:28,720 --> 01:22:31,080 Speaker 3: the nation of Cutter. And I know he's been accused 1329 01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:33,680 Speaker 3: of this by people like Mark Levin Radio House Mark 1330 01:22:33,760 --> 01:22:38,040 Speaker 3: Levin and others, and I have no way of knowing this. 1331 01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:43,160 Speaker 3: Here's what I know. He's gone very anti Israel. He 1332 01:22:43,240 --> 01:22:47,160 Speaker 3: has said that out loud, that he's going to buy 1333 01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:50,719 Speaker 3: a home in Cutter, and he does a whole bunch 1334 01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:55,760 Speaker 3: of forums there. So I have no idea if he's 1335 01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:58,240 Speaker 3: taking the money or not. I think people will come 1336 01:22:58,280 --> 01:23:01,680 Speaker 3: up to their own minds and some things will never 1337 01:23:01,760 --> 01:23:05,240 Speaker 3: actually know. Some things we do know, and I don't 1338 01:23:05,240 --> 01:23:07,519 Speaker 3: think we should be surprised by it. I think that 1339 01:23:07,600 --> 01:23:09,360 Speaker 3: this is more and more of a reason for us, 1340 01:23:09,439 --> 01:23:13,000 Speaker 3: on every single subject, in every single way, to be. 1341 01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:14,960 Speaker 2: Saying, Okay, I've heard what they said. 1342 01:23:15,080 --> 01:23:16,920 Speaker 3: Let me take that with a grain of salt, because 1343 01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:20,160 Speaker 3: that could have a connection piece to it, a bias 1344 01:23:20,240 --> 01:23:23,800 Speaker 3: to it that is being funded from X Y or 1345 01:23:23,920 --> 01:23:28,639 Speaker 3: Z group, and I think that that's healthy. But then again, 1346 01:23:28,840 --> 01:23:30,519 Speaker 3: I think we can apply that everywhere. There's always a 1347 01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:32,960 Speaker 3: little bit of healthy skepticism. Guys, even with me, of 1348 01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:35,760 Speaker 3: course you should. I do everything I can to bring 1349 01:23:35,800 --> 01:23:38,519 Speaker 3: the story proper check, double check and recheck. Damn straight, 1350 01:23:38,720 --> 01:23:42,599 Speaker 3: what are you crazy? Don't be loons. 1351 01:23:43,640 --> 01:23:47,360 Speaker 2: Check. I swear to you. I do everything I can. 1352 01:23:47,439 --> 01:23:50,160 Speaker 3: To bring it directly. I've gotten things wrong before and 1353 01:23:50,680 --> 01:23:55,160 Speaker 3: all that jazz. You should, of course check. But that's 1354 01:23:55,200 --> 01:23:59,080 Speaker 3: about paid influencers. When we look at Minneapolis and we 1355 01:23:59,120 --> 01:23:59,479 Speaker 3: look at. 1356 01:23:59,439 --> 01:24:02,560 Speaker 2: Other cities ease, that's about paid agitators. 1357 01:24:04,200 --> 01:24:07,000 Speaker 3: And we need to find out who's paying the agitators, 1358 01:24:07,479 --> 01:24:12,320 Speaker 3: because when we learn that this is foreign sourced money, 1359 01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:18,760 Speaker 3: we have to move with rapidness to end that capability. 1360 01:24:19,520 --> 01:24:23,200 Speaker 3: We cannot allow foreign money into the country, just like 1361 01:24:23,280 --> 01:24:26,280 Speaker 3: I believe we cannot allow the Communist Chinese Party to 1362 01:24:26,320 --> 01:24:28,280 Speaker 3: own land in the United States or businesses in the 1363 01:24:28,360 --> 01:24:30,520 Speaker 3: United States, no investment in the United States. 1364 01:24:30,240 --> 01:24:33,720 Speaker 2: At all at all. They are indeed the enemy, and 1365 01:24:33,720 --> 01:24:35,000 Speaker 2: they're not allowed investment here. 1366 01:24:36,280 --> 01:24:42,280 Speaker 3: Any foreign nation funding agitators must immediately be dealt with 1367 01:24:42,280 --> 01:24:49,880 Speaker 3: with force. You're funding agitators. You do not get to 1368 01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:52,280 Speaker 3: do business in the United States. We freeze your dollars, 1369 01:24:52,479 --> 01:24:55,879 Speaker 3: We take the dollars, and then we put out warrants 1370 01:24:55,880 --> 01:24:59,000 Speaker 3: for your arrest. And if you have family members in 1371 01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:01,200 Speaker 3: the US, we throw them in jail immediately. 1372 01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:04,080 Speaker 2: No, no, no, no. 1373 01:25:04,080 --> 01:25:09,760 Speaker 3: Non Americans do not get the Constitution treatment. This is 1374 01:25:10,120 --> 01:25:16,800 Speaker 3: an attack on our society. If a political party wants 1375 01:25:16,840 --> 01:25:19,720 Speaker 3: to pay somebody to say something and they don't disclose it, 1376 01:25:19,760 --> 01:25:20,839 Speaker 3: I think that's pretty gross. 1377 01:25:20,960 --> 01:25:22,479 Speaker 2: But it's Americans paying Americans. 1378 01:25:22,520 --> 01:25:25,640 Speaker 3: And unless there's some specific law about it, what am 1379 01:25:25,640 --> 01:25:29,400 Speaker 3: I going to do except say that's ugly. Foreign nations, 1380 01:25:29,439 --> 01:25:38,040 Speaker 3: foreign entities, foreign individuals, jail time, warrants for arrest, Absolutely, 1381 01:25:38,080 --> 01:25:40,559 Speaker 3: they're not even a debate. And as for the person 1382 01:25:40,600 --> 01:25:44,680 Speaker 3: taking the foreign money, I do not know if not 1383 01:25:44,840 --> 01:25:48,880 Speaker 3: disclosing as a violation. But since there are so many 1384 01:25:49,240 --> 01:25:52,800 Speaker 3: pieces of legislation that exist about aid and comfort to 1385 01:25:52,840 --> 01:25:56,840 Speaker 3: the enemies and not working in America's best interest, those 1386 01:25:56,960 --> 01:25:59,519 Speaker 3: kinds of things, which I guess could be subjective, we 1387 01:25:59,520 --> 01:26:03,720 Speaker 3: should ask ourselves whether or not there's legislation that can 1388 01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:06,559 Speaker 3: be used or should be used against those people who 1389 01:26:06,600 --> 01:26:12,639 Speaker 3: do not disclose. Foreign entities cannot be allowed entree into 1390 01:26:12,680 --> 01:26:18,240 Speaker 3: American politics, whether that be on the influencer side or 1391 01:26:18,280 --> 01:26:21,600 Speaker 3: whether that be in its organization. Now, I may have 1392 01:26:21,640 --> 01:26:23,720 Speaker 3: a tougher time on the influencer side, but when it 1393 01:26:23,720 --> 01:26:28,200 Speaker 3: comes to the organization, we can handle that immediately, if 1394 01:26:28,200 --> 01:26:33,240 Speaker 3: not sooner, track the dollars and start throwing people in jail, 1395 01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:36,960 Speaker 3: Start throwing sanctions against the countries that do it, and 1396 01:26:37,040 --> 01:26:43,120 Speaker 3: get very very rough, make them afraid, make them police themselves. 1397 01:26:43,560 --> 01:26:46,760 Speaker 3: Don't interfere in American elections. Don't think you could sell 1398 01:26:46,840 --> 01:26:50,599 Speaker 3: unrest in the United States. If we don't start hitting 1399 01:26:50,640 --> 01:26:55,519 Speaker 3: these people in the mouth, we're gonna get destroyed by this. 1400 01:26:55,680 --> 01:26:59,240 Speaker 3: It's gonna be death by a thousand cuts. So let's 1401 01:26:59,240 --> 01:27:02,280 Speaker 3: get on it. This is Tony Katz Today. So what 1402 01:27:02,280 --> 01:27:04,879 Speaker 3: did Sidney Sweeney do with her bra that has everybody 1403 01:27:04,920 --> 01:27:08,559 Speaker 3: all up at arms? I mean, it's a it's just 1404 01:27:08,600 --> 01:27:11,320 Speaker 3: a bra, right, Well, I don't know it's Sidney Sweeney. 1405 01:27:11,320 --> 01:27:15,920 Speaker 2: Maybe it's maybe it's special Tony Kats. Tony Katz Today. 1406 01:27:15,680 --> 01:27:18,080 Speaker 3: This show is weird sometimes good to be with you 1407 01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:20,120 Speaker 3: and find everything at Tony kats dot com. 1408 01:27:21,040 --> 01:27:28,040 Speaker 2: She is in trouble because she hung a clothesline of 1409 01:27:28,240 --> 01:27:33,080 Speaker 2: bras on the Hollywood Sign, and you're like, why why 1410 01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:37,479 Speaker 2: would she do this? What is the point of all this? 1411 01:27:37,920 --> 01:27:40,439 Speaker 3: And there she is, it's late at night, and she's 1412 01:27:40,479 --> 01:27:43,519 Speaker 3: with people and she's she's got them kind of connected 1413 01:27:43,560 --> 01:27:46,080 Speaker 3: to each other, and she's hanging them up on the 1414 01:27:46,120 --> 01:27:49,760 Speaker 3: Hollywood Sign. But I guess she's starting a company with 1415 01:27:49,840 --> 01:27:55,800 Speaker 3: Jeff Bezos. Bezos is backing it. She didn't have any 1416 01:27:56,479 --> 01:28:00,040 Speaker 3: approval to touch the sign or climb the sign. The 1417 01:28:00,040 --> 01:28:02,839 Speaker 3: Hollywood Chamber of Commerce confirmed that she didn't have clearance 1418 01:28:03,120 --> 01:28:03,880 Speaker 3: to go that far. 1419 01:28:04,040 --> 01:28:07,480 Speaker 2: There was no permission granted to do this as is required, 1420 01:28:07,720 --> 01:28:11,520 Speaker 2: and she could be charged with criminal trespassing and or vandalism. 1421 01:28:11,840 --> 01:28:12,639 Speaker 2: All I know is. 1422 01:28:12,640 --> 01:28:17,479 Speaker 3: This, if she gets charged, her mugshot will be more 1423 01:28:17,520 --> 01:28:24,080 Speaker 3: popular than Donald Trump's all on. Questionably, guys will have 1424 01:28:24,120 --> 01:28:29,240 Speaker 3: the Sydney Sweeney mug shot hanging in their homes. Well, 1425 01:28:29,280 --> 01:28:31,400 Speaker 3: they may have the Trump mugshot hanging in their home 1426 01:28:31,840 --> 01:28:39,080 Speaker 3: in multiple rooms. Guaranteed or your money back. Yeah, I 1427 01:28:39,120 --> 01:28:41,960 Speaker 3: mean it's I listen, if you want to get people talking, 1428 01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:46,400 Speaker 3: you got them talking, right, We're talking about it. 1429 01:28:47,680 --> 01:28:49,759 Speaker 2: And if she gets charged, I mean she's. 1430 01:28:49,560 --> 01:28:53,040 Speaker 3: Not gonna do you know, time or anything like that, 1431 01:28:53,200 --> 01:28:57,400 Speaker 3: Lapd telling Fox News Digital there's no investigation, no crime 1432 01:28:58,040 --> 01:29:02,160 Speaker 3: was committed. The production involving Sidney Sweeney and the Hollywood 1433 01:29:02,200 --> 01:29:04,840 Speaker 3: Sign is reported by TMZ was not authorized by the 1434 01:29:04,880 --> 01:29:07,120 Speaker 3: Hollywood Chamber of Commerce, nor do we have prior knowledge 1435 01:29:07,120 --> 01:29:09,760 Speaker 3: of it. The Hollywood Chamber of Commerce owns the intellectual 1436 01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:12,000 Speaker 3: property rights to the image of the Hollywood Sign, so 1437 01:29:12,080 --> 01:29:14,400 Speaker 3: that anyone intending to use and or access to the 1438 01:29:14,400 --> 01:29:17,960 Speaker 3: Hollywood Sign for commercial purposes must obtain a license or 1439 01:29:17,960 --> 01:29:19,920 Speaker 3: permission from the Hollywood Chamber. 1440 01:29:19,680 --> 01:29:21,400 Speaker 2: To do so. 1441 01:29:21,400 --> 01:29:23,800 Speaker 3: So it's basically a hey, don't do this, and don't 1442 01:29:23,800 --> 01:29:25,800 Speaker 3: give people the idea to do this, and now you know, 1443 01:29:25,800 --> 01:29:28,080 Speaker 3: you're gonna have five cops of course, stationed around the 1444 01:29:28,120 --> 01:29:32,200 Speaker 3: Hollywood Sign for I don't know in the next two weeks. 1445 01:29:33,760 --> 01:29:37,400 Speaker 3: All I know is that this lingerie line is backed 1446 01:29:37,439 --> 01:29:42,840 Speaker 3: by Bezos and his wife Laurence Sanchez, So I mean, 1447 01:29:43,640 --> 01:29:46,519 Speaker 3: I guess a good business partner unless you're the Washington Post. 1448 01:29:47,240 --> 01:29:50,719 Speaker 3: All the anger at the Washington Post because there's cuts coming, 1449 01:29:51,120 --> 01:29:54,320 Speaker 3: maybe to the whole sports desk, maybe to the Foreign 1450 01:29:54,360 --> 01:29:56,200 Speaker 3: affairs desk, and. 1451 01:29:56,200 --> 01:29:58,120 Speaker 2: They're going to cut that kind of coverage. 1452 01:29:58,720 --> 01:30:02,280 Speaker 3: It's the newspaper business, and they're infuriated with Bezos that 1453 01:30:02,360 --> 01:30:07,280 Speaker 3: he's not doing enough to support the news org. Maybe 1454 01:30:07,280 --> 01:30:09,479 Speaker 3: the news org doesn't do a good job reporting the news. 1455 01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:13,000 Speaker 3: Maybe just people get their news in a different way. 1456 01:30:13,720 --> 01:30:16,880 Speaker 3: Maybe they get it from videos made at the Hollywood Sign. 1457 01:30:17,000 --> 01:30:19,439 Speaker 3: Maybe maybe the reporters should just go hang their broths 1458 01:30:19,479 --> 01:30:21,280 Speaker 3: and the Hollywood Sign. Then tell a quick story and 1459 01:30:21,320 --> 01:30:23,479 Speaker 3: they can get the news out that way, get more readership. 1460 01:30:24,479 --> 01:30:24,759 Speaker 14: Probab. 1461 01:30:26,120 --> 01:30:28,040 Speaker 2: I doubt they're under whatever makes people is happy with 1462 01:30:28,080 --> 01:30:31,800 Speaker 2: the sitter strains keep it here. I'm Tony Katz. 1463 01:30:31,800 --> 01:30:36,360 Speaker 3: It's the Tony Katz today. So the question is, was 1464 01:30:36,439 --> 01:30:39,679 Speaker 3: there a coup in China? And I know what you're saying, Tony. 1465 01:30:40,600 --> 01:30:44,120 Speaker 3: What are you referring to? Well, I discussed how you 1466 01:30:44,160 --> 01:30:47,400 Speaker 3: had Jijinping the president dictator thug of China. 1467 01:30:47,840 --> 01:30:51,400 Speaker 2: We're leaving to a military general and somebody else within the. 1468 01:30:51,280 --> 01:30:54,439 Speaker 3: Military right, and then it was oh, because they violated 1469 01:30:54,439 --> 01:30:57,599 Speaker 3: this rule or that rule. It's the communists. It's all 1470 01:30:57,600 --> 01:31:01,280 Speaker 3: about paranoia and if they have things, anybody's getting too 1471 01:31:01,320 --> 01:31:04,400 Speaker 3: close to him or people are liking them more, getting 1472 01:31:04,400 --> 01:31:07,120 Speaker 3: too close to power, changes get made. It happens all 1473 01:31:07,160 --> 01:31:10,439 Speaker 3: the time. Tony Katz, Tony kats today. Good to be here, 1474 01:31:10,479 --> 01:31:10,840 Speaker 3: Good to. 1475 01:31:10,800 --> 01:31:11,240 Speaker 2: Be with you. 1476 01:31:11,960 --> 01:31:15,839 Speaker 3: And then there was some reporting that maybe this general 1477 01:31:16,640 --> 01:31:18,599 Speaker 3: got involved with a couple other people in the polit 1478 01:31:18,600 --> 01:31:22,120 Speaker 3: Buro and some soldiers and actually tried to engage a coup, 1479 01:31:22,520 --> 01:31:26,439 Speaker 3: an overthrowing of Jijiping. Just because you say there was 1480 01:31:26,479 --> 01:31:29,480 Speaker 3: a coup doesn't mean there was one. These are communists, 1481 01:31:29,760 --> 01:31:33,200 Speaker 3: They lie all the time. Major Mike Lyons joins me 1482 01:31:33,280 --> 01:31:38,799 Speaker 3: right now, retired United States Army WES appoint graduate military analyst. 1483 01:31:39,800 --> 01:31:42,320 Speaker 3: I think that anytime you see China make moves, you 1484 01:31:42,400 --> 01:31:44,920 Speaker 3: have to ask what the move is for. And I 1485 01:31:45,360 --> 01:31:48,520 Speaker 3: take a look at what the plans are regarding Taiwan. 1486 01:31:48,680 --> 01:31:51,880 Speaker 3: You see how we're engaged with Venezuela. You see how 1487 01:31:51,880 --> 01:31:54,519 Speaker 3: we've moved the USS Abraham Lincoln out of the South 1488 01:31:54,600 --> 01:31:58,400 Speaker 3: China Sea into the med to deal with the Iranians. 1489 01:31:58,560 --> 01:32:00,599 Speaker 2: And they could think that it's a good time to 1490 01:32:00,800 --> 01:32:01,839 Speaker 2: take Taiwan. 1491 01:32:01,920 --> 01:32:05,240 Speaker 3: So when I see something like this about someone being 1492 01:32:05,920 --> 01:32:09,000 Speaker 3: changed over or someone being taken out, it could be 1493 01:32:09,080 --> 01:32:12,160 Speaker 3: for a myriad of reasons. But now we're hearing about 1494 01:32:12,200 --> 01:32:14,439 Speaker 3: this idea of a potential coup. What can you tell 1495 01:32:14,520 --> 01:32:16,599 Speaker 3: us about what happened and why it happened. 1496 01:32:17,240 --> 01:32:19,400 Speaker 16: Oh, Tony, this is one of the most significant events 1497 01:32:19,479 --> 01:32:22,439 Speaker 16: that's happened to China in really the last few decades 1498 01:32:22,520 --> 01:32:25,760 Speaker 16: and since really Using Pin came to power, and by 1499 01:32:25,920 --> 01:32:29,120 Speaker 16: consolidating his military the way he's doing it right now, 1500 01:32:29,160 --> 01:32:31,439 Speaker 16: he's puting, you know, a tighter grip on what's going on. 1501 01:32:31,479 --> 01:32:32,479 Speaker 9: We really don't know. 1502 01:32:32,680 --> 01:32:36,160 Speaker 16: Unlike other countries that are open and with regard to 1503 01:32:36,400 --> 01:32:39,719 Speaker 16: what's happening there, you know, we just kind of expected 1504 01:32:39,800 --> 01:32:42,160 Speaker 16: China to be this you know, undercurrent and not really 1505 01:32:42,240 --> 01:32:44,400 Speaker 16: do anything. But this is a very very significant move. 1506 01:32:45,080 --> 01:32:47,920 Speaker 16: Now it's not a coup because it wasn't successful. Usually 1507 01:32:48,040 --> 01:32:50,880 Speaker 16: a coup means that the military is on the side 1508 01:32:51,080 --> 01:32:54,880 Speaker 16: of the person that's throwing or throwing the power, So 1509 01:32:54,920 --> 01:32:57,120 Speaker 16: I wouldn't go that far. I think that's the preemptive 1510 01:32:57,160 --> 01:33:03,480 Speaker 16: strike by the by of Gigi Bing in order to 1511 01:33:03,520 --> 01:33:07,320 Speaker 16: consolidate I mean, he's friends with these general officers since 1512 01:33:07,360 --> 01:33:07,960 Speaker 16: they were kids. 1513 01:33:07,960 --> 01:33:09,320 Speaker 9: I mean is this goes. 1514 01:33:09,080 --> 01:33:12,040 Speaker 16: Way back, and what he's accusing you of is basically treason, 1515 01:33:12,080 --> 01:33:14,920 Speaker 16: which means he will be summarily executed at some point. 1516 01:33:14,920 --> 01:33:16,960 Speaker 16: So I think it's more or less the communist thing 1517 01:33:17,400 --> 01:33:20,479 Speaker 16: that's taking place here, and maybe things aren't moving fast enough, 1518 01:33:21,040 --> 01:33:23,360 Speaker 16: but we're still waiting for the dust to settle. But 1519 01:33:23,360 --> 01:33:26,720 Speaker 16: if anything, I think it pushes out. An invasion of 1520 01:33:26,760 --> 01:33:29,120 Speaker 16: Taiwan doesn't make it any sooner. 1521 01:33:30,080 --> 01:33:32,600 Speaker 2: I will use KUP as the all purpose terminology. 1522 01:33:32,600 --> 01:33:36,679 Speaker 3: And the general in question, Jean Euja is seventy five 1523 01:33:37,000 --> 01:33:41,320 Speaker 3: Vice chairman of the Central Military Commission. 1524 01:33:41,760 --> 01:33:46,560 Speaker 2: He's the number two. He runs the entire military. 1525 01:33:47,080 --> 01:33:50,719 Speaker 3: Why would it be thought that there was a change 1526 01:33:50,720 --> 01:33:53,040 Speaker 3: made you call it a significant maybe one of the 1527 01:33:53,040 --> 01:33:55,400 Speaker 3: more significant moves in recent memory. 1528 01:33:55,640 --> 01:33:58,800 Speaker 2: What about it makes it significant? The friendship or something else? 1529 01:33:59,320 --> 01:34:02,240 Speaker 16: Now, well, all those things, the friendship and the multiple 1530 01:34:02,320 --> 01:34:06,160 Speaker 16: layers underneath it. In consolidation, the Chinese military has been 1531 01:34:06,200 --> 01:34:10,840 Speaker 16: on red hot when it comes to improving and modernizing 1532 01:34:10,920 --> 01:34:16,240 Speaker 16: and making significant changes and looking to see if they 1533 01:34:16,280 --> 01:34:17,320 Speaker 16: can actually do something. 1534 01:34:18,080 --> 01:34:19,559 Speaker 9: There's an experience. 1535 01:34:19,120 --> 01:34:22,040 Speaker 16: Gap though, which they don't have, and I think that's 1536 01:34:22,439 --> 01:34:25,120 Speaker 16: maybe what these general officers were saying. There's reports that 1537 01:34:25,240 --> 01:34:27,800 Speaker 16: said that they don't want to go into Taiwan. They 1538 01:34:27,800 --> 01:34:30,880 Speaker 16: feel that the United States would actually do a number 1539 01:34:30,960 --> 01:34:33,479 Speaker 16: on the Chinese government, and it would be it wouldn't 1540 01:34:33,479 --> 01:34:35,759 Speaker 16: be a good way to start what would could potentially 1541 01:34:35,800 --> 01:34:38,280 Speaker 16: be the Third World War, and that could be the 1542 01:34:38,320 --> 01:34:40,840 Speaker 16: reason why it took place. But the fact that these 1543 01:34:41,160 --> 01:34:45,760 Speaker 16: general officers were behind the rebuild of that military and 1544 01:34:45,840 --> 01:34:48,840 Speaker 16: know it so well and now they're gone is fairly significant. 1545 01:34:49,200 --> 01:34:53,760 Speaker 16: And these were the only experienced combat troops that they 1546 01:34:53,800 --> 01:34:57,400 Speaker 16: had based on that seventy nine war that the Chinese 1547 01:34:57,439 --> 01:34:59,880 Speaker 16: had in Vietnam, and so they kind of know it 1548 01:35:00,320 --> 01:35:01,280 Speaker 16: what things are like. 1549 01:35:01,560 --> 01:35:04,320 Speaker 9: And again the fact that they were friends from childhood. 1550 01:35:04,800 --> 01:35:09,559 Speaker 16: There is a significant significant change with regard to how 1551 01:35:10,000 --> 01:35:11,240 Speaker 16: China's running its military. 1552 01:35:11,520 --> 01:35:13,839 Speaker 3: Talking to Major Mike Lyons, retired in the United States 1553 01:35:13,960 --> 01:35:18,400 Speaker 3: Army military analyst, you know, you bring up these are 1554 01:35:18,520 --> 01:35:20,960 Speaker 3: soldiers that have actually had some fighting experience. 1555 01:35:22,040 --> 01:35:24,280 Speaker 2: China does a lot of saber rattling. 1556 01:35:24,439 --> 01:35:27,920 Speaker 3: China does a lot of hey look at us, whether 1557 01:35:28,000 --> 01:35:32,000 Speaker 3: you know, conversations about missile technology and the parades and 1558 01:35:32,040 --> 01:35:35,559 Speaker 3: everything else. But they're they're working on their their aircraft 1559 01:35:35,560 --> 01:35:39,040 Speaker 3: carrier technology. But in the end, there's a real question 1560 01:35:39,080 --> 01:35:40,960 Speaker 3: about whether or not China could take a punch to 1561 01:35:41,000 --> 01:35:44,840 Speaker 3: the nose. The idea of the paper tiger that is 1562 01:35:45,040 --> 01:35:51,920 Speaker 3: China in in your analysis, is China formidable or is 1563 01:35:51,960 --> 01:35:54,519 Speaker 3: there a way to see that they are even though 1564 01:35:54,520 --> 01:35:56,960 Speaker 3: they have not actually been tested anywhere? 1565 01:35:58,000 --> 01:36:02,400 Speaker 16: Great question in China mains the great imitator, and what 1566 01:36:02,439 --> 01:36:05,360 Speaker 16: they've tried to do is imitate success that they see 1567 01:36:05,400 --> 01:36:06,280 Speaker 16: the United States has. 1568 01:36:06,160 --> 01:36:08,080 Speaker 9: Had on the battlefield. Go back to the Desert Storm. 1569 01:36:08,160 --> 01:36:12,800 Speaker 16: They saw what the combined arms efforts did back then, 1570 01:36:13,400 --> 01:36:16,439 Speaker 16: bringing airca and land together and to destroy the fourth 1571 01:36:16,520 --> 01:36:18,519 Speaker 16: arm largest army in the world back then. 1572 01:36:18,680 --> 01:36:19,400 Speaker 9: In four days. 1573 01:36:20,200 --> 01:36:23,680 Speaker 16: And so China remains that imitator and believes that they 1574 01:36:23,680 --> 01:36:26,479 Speaker 16: could just roll out the same kinds of things. But 1575 01:36:26,560 --> 01:36:29,479 Speaker 16: to your point, they lack the experience and there's a 1576 01:36:29,520 --> 01:36:31,599 Speaker 16: talent gap there. I mean, look at the fact that 1577 01:36:31,640 --> 01:36:34,000 Speaker 16: the United States can pull off that mission with Maduo 1578 01:36:34,520 --> 01:36:36,360 Speaker 16: because they could put ten to twelve people in a 1579 01:36:36,439 --> 01:36:39,400 Speaker 16: room that could come up with that plan that bring 1580 01:36:39,640 --> 01:36:43,360 Speaker 16: all this different experience levels to the table. China doesn't 1581 01:36:43,360 --> 01:36:45,200 Speaker 16: have any of that. They would have to start from 1582 01:36:45,520 --> 01:36:49,120 Speaker 16: zero and make these bad assumptions that the United States 1583 01:36:49,160 --> 01:36:52,640 Speaker 16: has unfortunately learned the hard way in some cases. And 1584 01:36:52,680 --> 01:36:55,400 Speaker 16: so that really matters, especially at the very strategic levels 1585 01:36:55,439 --> 01:36:57,400 Speaker 16: of what they're trying to do, and I think that's 1586 01:36:57,640 --> 01:37:00,400 Speaker 16: I think that's the major point is they don't know 1587 01:37:00,439 --> 01:37:03,639 Speaker 16: what exactly the United States would respond to they China 1588 01:37:03,640 --> 01:37:07,000 Speaker 16: has hypersonic missiles and feels that they could sink a 1589 01:37:07,040 --> 01:37:09,080 Speaker 16: care We've seen in trying to do that in terms 1590 01:37:09,120 --> 01:37:12,080 Speaker 16: of their targeting, but the whether they can actually pull 1591 01:37:12,080 --> 01:37:14,760 Speaker 16: the trigger on it we may be seen really quick. 1592 01:37:14,800 --> 01:37:18,200 Speaker 3: Because you brought up the hypersonics, this is a quick 1593 01:37:18,720 --> 01:37:24,400 Speaker 3: dtour onto Greenland and the importance of Greenland's strategic placement 1594 01:37:24,720 --> 01:37:30,320 Speaker 3: to be able to locate hypersonics before they reach American chores, 1595 01:37:30,400 --> 01:37:32,720 Speaker 3: whether they be from Russia, whether they be from China. 1596 01:37:32,840 --> 01:37:35,559 Speaker 3: The hypersonic travels with the curvature of the Earth, as 1597 01:37:35,600 --> 01:37:38,360 Speaker 3: opposed to a ballistic missile which is heading out of 1598 01:37:38,680 --> 01:37:41,080 Speaker 3: out of the atmosphere and then re entering the atmosphere, 1599 01:37:41,160 --> 01:37:47,360 Speaker 3: making it much easier to see. Is Greenland the only 1600 01:37:47,400 --> 01:37:50,400 Speaker 3: place that we need in order to have more safety 1601 01:37:50,400 --> 01:37:54,479 Speaker 3: and security from what is a clear Russian and Chinese threat. 1602 01:37:55,720 --> 01:37:57,599 Speaker 9: Well, it's a major observation post. 1603 01:37:57,640 --> 01:38:00,639 Speaker 16: If you combine Greenland with the last on the other 1604 01:38:00,680 --> 01:38:03,599 Speaker 16: side of the hemisphere, you have now a triangle type 1605 01:38:03,680 --> 01:38:07,160 Speaker 16: of position. Bring it down to like the Foxhoil level, 1606 01:38:07,360 --> 01:38:10,280 Speaker 16: you've got converging fires and potentially on where the threat 1607 01:38:10,280 --> 01:38:12,320 Speaker 16: could come from. It's exactly right, it would come across 1608 01:38:12,680 --> 01:38:14,960 Speaker 16: the top of the Earth. And that's why Greenland is 1609 01:38:14,960 --> 01:38:15,519 Speaker 16: so important. 1610 01:38:15,560 --> 01:38:15,880 Speaker 9: I think. 1611 01:38:16,080 --> 01:38:19,160 Speaker 16: I think the President was right instinctively and gave Europe 1612 01:38:19,200 --> 01:38:21,479 Speaker 16: a wake up call about Greenland and why it's so 1613 01:38:21,520 --> 01:38:24,040 Speaker 16: important to us. I think it remains to be seen 1614 01:38:24,080 --> 01:38:27,040 Speaker 16: whether the iron iron dome technology, the golden dome, whatever 1615 01:38:27,040 --> 01:38:29,400 Speaker 16: we're calling it, is still going to work. I think 1616 01:38:29,400 --> 01:38:32,240 Speaker 16: it's still very difficult to hit a missile with a 1617 01:38:32,240 --> 01:38:35,080 Speaker 16: mother missile, especially when it's going hypersonic speed. I think 1618 01:38:35,320 --> 01:38:37,080 Speaker 16: there's going to be other ways that that's going to 1619 01:38:37,080 --> 01:38:41,760 Speaker 16: have that missile taken out, not necessarily kinetically, maybe electronically 1620 01:38:41,840 --> 01:38:46,040 Speaker 16: or something else. But Greenland is very strategic, and it's 1621 01:38:45,880 --> 01:38:47,760 Speaker 16: as a store a place on the planet it is. 1622 01:38:48,240 --> 01:38:51,320 Speaker 16: It is a place where we've got we have to 1623 01:38:51,360 --> 01:38:55,559 Speaker 16: put resources there to protect what's really the side door 1624 01:38:55,600 --> 01:38:57,760 Speaker 16: of our country or the top door, whatever you want 1625 01:38:57,800 --> 01:38:59,960 Speaker 16: to call it, which could be an easy target. 1626 01:39:00,600 --> 01:39:02,960 Speaker 3: Talking to Major Mike Lyons, retired to the United States 1627 01:39:03,080 --> 01:39:04,480 Speaker 3: Army Military analysts. 1628 01:39:05,479 --> 01:39:07,000 Speaker 2: Let me bring you now to. 1629 01:39:06,960 --> 01:39:08,960 Speaker 3: Another part of the globe, which is Iran, and I 1630 01:39:09,120 --> 01:39:12,519 Speaker 3: mentioned the USS Abraham Lincoln making its way, I believe 1631 01:39:13,120 --> 01:39:16,000 Speaker 3: to the Mediterranean. The Juti rebels have said they would 1632 01:39:16,000 --> 01:39:18,360 Speaker 3: shoot at the Abraham Lincoln because of course they're supported 1633 01:39:18,880 --> 01:39:23,320 Speaker 3: by Iran. You have other destroyers and other warships that 1634 01:39:23,360 --> 01:39:24,680 Speaker 3: are going to go in the med and in the 1635 01:39:24,720 --> 01:39:28,639 Speaker 3: Persian Gulf, all because the pressure is on to get 1636 01:39:28,720 --> 01:39:29,600 Speaker 3: rid of the Ayatola. 1637 01:39:29,720 --> 01:39:30,920 Speaker 2: The protests have been happening. 1638 01:39:31,400 --> 01:39:34,480 Speaker 3: Word on the street is that the Iatola and the IRGC, 1639 01:39:35,120 --> 01:39:38,760 Speaker 3: the Islamic Revolutionary Guard CORUS killed forty thousand Iranians who 1640 01:39:38,800 --> 01:39:41,000 Speaker 3: have been engaged in protests. And I'm willing to bet 1641 01:39:41,040 --> 01:39:43,200 Speaker 3: you any amount of money major that that number is 1642 01:39:43,280 --> 01:39:47,240 Speaker 3: low compared to what has really happened on the streets there. 1643 01:39:47,720 --> 01:39:50,599 Speaker 3: But it seems that the president's moves and maneuvers where 1644 01:39:50,640 --> 01:39:54,800 Speaker 3: he's told these protesters help is on its way, would 1645 01:39:54,800 --> 01:39:59,760 Speaker 3: be about hitting military targets, not necessarily breaking the IRGC, 1646 01:40:00,240 --> 01:40:03,000 Speaker 3: which would be necessary for the people of Iran to 1647 01:40:03,200 --> 01:40:06,640 Speaker 3: actually be free of the Islamic Yoka, the Ayatolas. 1648 01:40:06,680 --> 01:40:09,720 Speaker 2: So you see these assets moving into the. 1649 01:40:09,680 --> 01:40:12,559 Speaker 3: Men moving into the Persian Gulf, What is moving where 1650 01:40:12,640 --> 01:40:13,639 Speaker 3: and what is the purpose? 1651 01:40:14,720 --> 01:40:16,920 Speaker 16: Well, I think the president backed themselves into having some 1652 01:40:17,040 --> 01:40:19,479 Speaker 16: kind of military solution because you told the Ranian people 1653 01:40:19,600 --> 01:40:23,120 Speaker 16: you have to stand by and what are those targets? Well, again, 1654 01:40:23,160 --> 01:40:24,880 Speaker 16: we've got smart people in the room trying to figure 1655 01:40:24,880 --> 01:40:26,640 Speaker 16: that out right now, and I think a lot of 1656 01:40:26,680 --> 01:40:30,559 Speaker 16: it's probably has to do with Israeli intelligence, as I've 1657 01:40:30,560 --> 01:40:34,000 Speaker 16: got to believe that they've infiltrated well inside Iran in 1658 01:40:34,040 --> 01:40:36,720 Speaker 16: the past five to ten years, which gave us the 1659 01:40:36,760 --> 01:40:39,120 Speaker 16: kind of intel that allowed us to do this strike 1660 01:40:39,160 --> 01:40:42,160 Speaker 16: that we did last spring. But the military targets are 1661 01:40:42,160 --> 01:40:46,840 Speaker 16: clearly on the Revolutionary Guards and those tart and their capability, 1662 01:40:47,200 --> 01:40:50,960 Speaker 16: and likely first will be missile capability that they still 1663 01:40:51,000 --> 01:40:53,240 Speaker 16: have as much as the Israelis knocked a lot of 1664 01:40:53,280 --> 01:40:55,720 Speaker 16: it out of it, the anti missile defense platforms. They 1665 01:40:55,760 --> 01:40:58,000 Speaker 16: all to go after the offensive systems and take them 1666 01:40:58,000 --> 01:41:01,320 Speaker 16: out as they pose a threat. Now, once they're done, 1667 01:41:01,439 --> 01:41:04,320 Speaker 16: now they go after and then specific let's say RGC 1668 01:41:04,680 --> 01:41:07,599 Speaker 16: or Revolutionary Reguards headquarters, and I think that's what those 1669 01:41:07,600 --> 01:41:08,720 Speaker 16: military targets will be. 1670 01:41:09,120 --> 01:41:11,200 Speaker 9: It's still a very difficult. 1671 01:41:11,080 --> 01:41:14,000 Speaker 16: Thing to believe that it's going to cause the revolution 1672 01:41:14,240 --> 01:41:17,800 Speaker 16: to take place. Because civilians don't have any weapons on 1673 01:41:17,800 --> 01:41:20,200 Speaker 16: their side, they're going to need the Ranian army to 1674 01:41:20,320 --> 01:41:23,600 Speaker 16: not fight against the civilians, the Iranian army itself, the 1675 01:41:23,600 --> 01:41:27,880 Speaker 16: regular army, in order to at least give them a 1676 01:41:27,920 --> 01:41:30,880 Speaker 16: fighting chance. But we know in Tehran with the water 1677 01:41:30,960 --> 01:41:34,640 Speaker 16: crisis that's taking place, in the humanitarian crisis, and it's 1678 01:41:34,640 --> 01:41:35,799 Speaker 16: a very challenging situation. 1679 01:41:36,520 --> 01:41:36,800 Speaker 2: But the. 1680 01:41:38,720 --> 01:41:43,439 Speaker 3: Helping of these of the Iranian people has to come 1681 01:41:43,520 --> 01:41:48,120 Speaker 3: from a willingness to break that army or break the IRGC. 1682 01:41:48,720 --> 01:41:51,599 Speaker 3: And that is something that I do not know comes 1683 01:41:51,640 --> 01:41:54,800 Speaker 3: from an aircraft carrier being parked in the med or 1684 01:41:54,840 --> 01:41:59,400 Speaker 3: in the Persian Gulf. So where I'm going to ask again, 1685 01:41:59,439 --> 01:42:01,559 Speaker 3: maybe it's a different question. Maybe it's the same question. 1686 01:42:02,120 --> 01:42:05,599 Speaker 3: Where's the pressure point? What makes the iatola go run 1687 01:42:05,640 --> 01:42:07,680 Speaker 3: for cover? And oh, by the way, where the hell 1688 01:42:07,720 --> 01:42:08,080 Speaker 3: is he going. 1689 01:42:08,080 --> 01:42:08,519 Speaker 2: To run to? 1690 01:42:09,680 --> 01:42:11,719 Speaker 9: Well, it's it's there's no insider. 1691 01:42:11,800 --> 01:42:14,840 Speaker 16: It doesn't appear like there was in Venezuela, and there's 1692 01:42:15,000 --> 01:42:19,120 Speaker 16: no mote. Let's say that you can create between the 1693 01:42:19,160 --> 01:42:21,559 Speaker 16: people doing the killing, the RGC and the and the 1694 01:42:21,720 --> 01:42:25,400 Speaker 16: and the regime against the civilians that's there as we 1695 01:42:25,439 --> 01:42:28,600 Speaker 16: can throw all the Internet connections that we want inside, 1696 01:42:28,640 --> 01:42:31,040 Speaker 16: and we're still getting the terrible stories. But that's not 1697 01:42:31,120 --> 01:42:32,880 Speaker 16: going to take it. It's going to be hard power 1698 01:42:33,400 --> 01:42:37,120 Speaker 16: and and I'm curious to see what what the targets 1699 01:42:37,120 --> 01:42:40,559 Speaker 16: are when this thing finally goes down, because it was 1700 01:42:40,600 --> 01:42:44,719 Speaker 16: a bad expectation in some ways that the president gave 1701 01:42:45,040 --> 01:42:47,880 Speaker 16: that that he could get them to stop with that 1702 01:42:48,000 --> 01:42:49,120 Speaker 16: with just military attack. 1703 01:42:49,320 --> 01:42:51,599 Speaker 9: I just I just don't see it. There's nothing there 1704 01:42:51,640 --> 01:42:52,200 Speaker 9: they can do it. 1705 01:42:52,200 --> 01:42:55,600 Speaker 16: It's going to take some uprising inside the country that 1706 01:42:55,640 --> 01:42:56,200 Speaker 16: we just don't know. 1707 01:42:56,360 --> 01:42:59,160 Speaker 3: Is that an uprising that's supported by us on the ground, 1708 01:42:59,200 --> 01:43:03,559 Speaker 3: supported by sending them weapons, supported by external pressure? 1709 01:43:04,880 --> 01:43:06,519 Speaker 2: What does what does that look like? 1710 01:43:07,520 --> 01:43:10,200 Speaker 9: Well, that's where the Israeli government comes into play, because 1711 01:43:10,960 --> 01:43:11,959 Speaker 9: it's a home. 1712 01:43:11,800 --> 01:43:14,760 Speaker 16: Game for them and not us, and we don't have 1713 01:43:14,840 --> 01:43:18,280 Speaker 16: as many assets there I'm sure that we'd like to 1714 01:43:18,280 --> 01:43:21,120 Speaker 16: think we have in the CIA. By the way, he 1715 01:43:21,120 --> 01:43:23,000 Speaker 16: has done a tremendous job when you think about it, 1716 01:43:23,040 --> 01:43:26,519 Speaker 16: what they've done in Venezuela with Maduro, and let's say 1717 01:43:26,520 --> 01:43:28,280 Speaker 16: it had something to do with what's you and happening 1718 01:43:28,280 --> 01:43:31,320 Speaker 16: in China. If that was true about that general officer 1719 01:43:31,360 --> 01:43:34,080 Speaker 16: flipping on nuclear secrets. But bring it back to Iran, 1720 01:43:34,520 --> 01:43:37,000 Speaker 16: it's the same thing here. Whereas they're looking for that 1721 01:43:37,080 --> 01:43:40,160 Speaker 16: lynch pin, they're looking for that one or two individuals 1722 01:43:40,160 --> 01:43:41,519 Speaker 16: that can that can make a difference. 1723 01:43:41,920 --> 01:43:43,280 Speaker 9: They just haven't seen it yet. 1724 01:43:43,600 --> 01:43:47,200 Speaker 3: Major Mike Lyons, retired United States Army military analyst. I 1725 01:43:47,280 --> 01:43:49,920 Speaker 3: appreciate taking the time to be with us more to 1726 01:43:49,960 --> 01:43:52,840 Speaker 3: get to I'm Tony Katz. This is Tony Katz Today. 1727 01:43:53,000 --> 01:43:59,320 Speaker 3: It's an interesting map hosted by Ryan Goderski about apportionment 1728 01:43:59,840 --> 01:44:04,599 Speaker 3: in twenty thirty when the next census comes around, and 1729 01:44:04,640 --> 01:44:07,599 Speaker 3: you take a look at where people have moved from, 1730 01:44:07,720 --> 01:44:09,559 Speaker 3: and you take a look where people are moving too, 1731 01:44:10,400 --> 01:44:13,679 Speaker 3: and they're leaving California, and they're leaving Oregon, and they're 1732 01:44:13,760 --> 01:44:17,880 Speaker 3: leaving Minnesota and Wisconsin and Illinois and New York and 1733 01:44:17,960 --> 01:44:24,360 Speaker 3: Pennsylvania and New Jersey, oh and Rhode Island. And they're 1734 01:44:24,400 --> 01:44:31,719 Speaker 3: going to Idaho, Utah, Arizona, Texas, North Carolina, Georgia, and Florida. 1735 01:44:32,960 --> 01:44:34,439 Speaker 2: So what does this mean. 1736 01:44:35,080 --> 01:44:37,880 Speaker 3: This means that left leaning states are going to lose 1737 01:44:37,920 --> 01:44:40,160 Speaker 3: a whole bunch of seats. 1738 01:44:40,320 --> 01:44:43,120 Speaker 2: Tony Katz Tony Kats today, good to be with you. 1739 01:44:44,439 --> 01:44:52,160 Speaker 3: Red states will gain eight seats, Blue states will lose nine, 1740 01:44:52,680 --> 01:44:56,400 Speaker 3: and purple states will gain one. I'm assuming he means 1741 01:44:56,520 --> 01:45:00,280 Speaker 3: Arizona in that regard Arizona, which we would call all 1742 01:45:00,680 --> 01:45:07,679 Speaker 3: the purple compared to let's say Georgia or Texas. Now 1743 01:45:08,400 --> 01:45:11,360 Speaker 3: North Carolina, don't they have a democratic governor right then 1744 01:45:11,400 --> 01:45:13,400 Speaker 3: they've got some issues there, So maybe they mean that 1745 01:45:14,080 --> 01:45:17,559 Speaker 3: The moral of the story is the left is going 1746 01:45:17,640 --> 01:45:22,040 Speaker 3: to lose Ce's This is why they push so much 1747 01:45:22,160 --> 01:45:27,599 Speaker 3: legislation and engage such a vicious attack against you, saying 1748 01:45:27,640 --> 01:45:31,320 Speaker 3: that only citizens should vote. It's why they oppose the 1749 01:45:31,479 --> 01:45:36,040 Speaker 3: very idea of voter id They want anybody they can voting. 1750 01:45:36,120 --> 01:45:39,639 Speaker 3: It's why they don't want a census that says no 1751 01:45:40,120 --> 01:45:46,200 Speaker 3: to including illegal immigrants, because what they want is to 1752 01:45:46,280 --> 01:45:50,760 Speaker 3: count everybody, not everybody that should be here, and in 1753 01:45:50,880 --> 01:45:53,599 Speaker 3: doing so, they want to be able to say, see, 1754 01:45:53,760 --> 01:45:58,840 Speaker 3: we've got more people, so we deserve more representation, which 1755 01:45:58,880 --> 01:46:03,040 Speaker 3: goes back to that ilhan Omar post Ice will leave 1756 01:46:03,080 --> 01:46:05,040 Speaker 3: Minnesota if you hand over your voter rolls. 1757 01:46:05,080 --> 01:46:05,799 Speaker 2: That's the quote. 1758 01:46:06,439 --> 01:46:08,680 Speaker 3: Then she goes on tells you everything you need to 1759 01:46:08,720 --> 01:46:11,240 Speaker 3: know this was never about immigration or fraud. It was 1760 01:46:11,280 --> 01:46:15,160 Speaker 3: always about rigging elections. Tell Ilhan Ohmar that she went 1761 01:46:15,200 --> 01:46:17,639 Speaker 3: from having no net worth the thirty million dollars she's 1762 01:46:17,680 --> 01:46:20,760 Speaker 3: getting investigated, and this whole thing about the winery. She's 1763 01:46:20,800 --> 01:46:24,280 Speaker 3: got a winery that's now worth five million. Investigations up 1764 01:46:24,320 --> 01:46:32,000 Speaker 3: the wazoo. It's always been about the elections. She wants 1765 01:46:32,040 --> 01:46:35,200 Speaker 3: you to not look at what they're doing. We want 1766 01:46:35,240 --> 01:46:39,880 Speaker 3: people are here illegally in the US gun and we 1767 01:46:39,920 --> 01:46:42,840 Speaker 3: want clean voter rolls. She wants the illegal people to 1768 01:46:42,840 --> 01:46:44,400 Speaker 3: stay here, and she wants you not to touch the 1769 01:46:44,479 --> 01:46:47,519 Speaker 3: voter rolls. That's the difference between her and you. 1770 01:46:48,160 --> 01:46:51,639 Speaker 2: Aren't you glad? Find everything at Tony kats dot com tomorrow. 1771 01:46:51,680 --> 01:46:52,599 Speaker 2: Everyone take care