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Speaker 1: How many Wizards can you name? You did the game

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Speaker 2: We do know that Pascal Siakam has already been ruled

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Speaker 1: Now, the NBA yesterday let it be known that they

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Speaker 1: I don't know that would mean accumulative enough that you

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Speaker 1: But I happened to be watching Brian Wilks for a

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Speaker 1: little bit. And you know it's serious when in the

436
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Speaker 1: middle of it he says to the other fella, can

437
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 1: you handle it for a second, I've got to change

438
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Speaker 1: batteries on my microphone. He also, by the way, Brian Wilkes,

439
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 1: Brian Wilkes gets huge credit for this. If you're friends

440
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:34,160
Speaker 1: with Brian Wilks sent him a message. He gets huge

441
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Speaker 1: credit for the fact that yesterday Brian Wilkes was explaining

442
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Speaker 1: the confluence of weather fronts by using the analogy of

443
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 1: Indy five hundred dirty air and being the lead car

444
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:50,359
Speaker 1: versus a car in traffic, and I thought only in Indianapolis,

445
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:55,920
Speaker 1: Brian Wilkes, Chicago went through and through Cubs, Guy, Bears Guy,

446
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 1: all of it, and he's on the air. You want

447
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Speaker 1: to talk about a fella that knows his audience. That's

448
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 1: why he's one of the best. I love, you know,

449
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 1: obviously Angela and Sean Ash we've had on. All of

450
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 1: them do a great job, Lindsay. They all do a

451
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 1: great job. But Chris Wright, but that was big time

452
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Speaker 1: for him to mention clean and dirty air. All right.

453
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 1: Kyle Nenripp joins us now on the Java House Colbrew

454
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 1: Coffee guest line. Sectionals upcoming. But Kyle, I'll begin with this.

455
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:27,399
Speaker 1: I found this peculiar and open disclaimer. I don't know

456
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Speaker 1: that I need to give the open disclaimer, but I will.

457
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:31,879
Speaker 1: You know, I grew up with Alan Henderson. I went

458
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Speaker 1: to elementary school with Alan Henderson. I knew him, I

459
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 1: played youth sports with them, and knew him all the

460
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Speaker 1: way through high school. We are the same class. And

461
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 1: I just talked to Alan probably three weeks ago, and

462
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 1: we talked about both of his sons, the younger of

463
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Speaker 1: which is playing right now, and he was at University

464
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 1: High and now just before sectional has decided to change schools.

465
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Speaker 1: I did not talk to Alan about this, so I

466
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Speaker 1: will refer to you. Do you know the reasoning that

467
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 1: Joshua Henderson now is changing high schools? Right? On the

468
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 1: cusp of sectionals.

469
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 4: Not any more than you know, I quoted him in

470
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 4: the story and uh, you know, talked to Alan. He

471
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 4: was he was a cough wind of it the day

472
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 4: that he he withdrew from university and talked to Alan

473
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 4: that night and then the following morning and uh, you know,

474
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 4: and yeah, I mean we we talked a little bit

475
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 4: on the phone. But you know, there wasn't any There

476
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 4: isn't any Uh I would say single incident or anything

477
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 4: like that, at least that I'm publicly you know that

478
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:42,880
Speaker 4: he told me on the phone publicly or you know anything,

479
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 4: you know, to be honest with you. So I think

480
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 4: it's just more of a you know, it's more of

481
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 4: a situation where you know, they just felt like this

482
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 4: was gonna and I know it's a generic thing. And

483
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,120
Speaker 4: he he did say, just to quote him, he said,

484
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Speaker 4: Josh met some good people and had some good experiences

485
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 4: at university. Uh, he got a chance to develop and

486
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,360
Speaker 4: get on the court, continue to work on his game. Academically.

487
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,400
Speaker 4: He enjoyed his teachers and classes. There was a lot

488
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 4: of good but there is something where he wants to

489
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 4: try to continue his development. But this is something where

490
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 4: he wants to try to continue his development. And he

491
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,919
Speaker 4: also said his daughter is transferring from university to Carmel

492
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 4: as well. She's a freshman and a really good volleyball

493
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Speaker 4: player as well. So it's kind of a family decision.

494
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,640
Speaker 4: But yeah, obviously the timing of it drew a lot

495
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Speaker 4: of race and eyebrows. I don't think the fact that

496
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Speaker 4: he transferred is you know, there's a lot of transfers

497
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Speaker 4: that happened, you know, that happened after the season or

498
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Speaker 4: after a school year. Definitely, the timing of it race

499
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 4: and eyebrows, and was kind of shocking for me to

500
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,959
Speaker 4: hear about it when I did hear about it on Wednesday,

501
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 4: because I just covered their game on Friday. I talked

502
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Speaker 4: to Alan before the game. I watched Josh play. He

503
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 4: had like, you know, nineteen twenty one points something like that,

504
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 4: and they won the game and he played really well,

505
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 4: and you know he I talked him after the game,

506
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 4: and you know, so I just, yeah, so the timing

507
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Speaker 4: of it not ideal.

508
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Speaker 2: You know.

509
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 4: I did talk to Justin Blaining or texted with him

510
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 4: and he said, you know, hey, you know we're you know,

511
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 4: the kids are are moving forward and that's good. Kind

512
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 4: of something you think about, too, is what the position

513
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 4: they're put in by this, and you know, he said

514
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 4: they're positive and moving forward. They do have a really

515
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 4: good senior class and Josh is a junior, but they

516
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 4: do have a really good senior class that played in

517
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Speaker 4: the state finals last year. So they have a lot

518
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Speaker 4: of guys with a lot of pride that I'm sure

519
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 4: will be, uh, you know, ready for the sectional and

520
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 4: you know that that will still be a tough team

521
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 4: to beat. I think now you take you know, nineteen

522
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 4: points out of the lineup, and that's a pretty big

523
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 4: deal and your leading rebounder. But uh but you know,

524
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 4: I feel like they're you know, they're they're moving forward

525
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 4: and uh you know, but yeah, I mean I think

526
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 4: one of the things to here too, you know, and

527
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 4: maybe I'm ramblings will cut me off, you need to,

528
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 4: but I think part of the thing too is here

529
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:56,719
Speaker 4: the you know, the thirty day transfer rule. You know

530
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 4: that comes into effect. You know, once he starts at

531
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 4: Carmel in Roles there. You know, the clock starts on that,

532
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 4: so you know, and I think that's something is maybe

533
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 4: an unintended consequence of the transfer rule is you know

534
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 4: that you can, you can transfer in season and you know,

535
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 4: only sit out thirty days and then be able to play. Now,

536
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 4: he wouldn't be able to play for Carmel anyway this

537
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 4: year unless they make it to the semi State, which

538
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 4: is going to be hard to do, you know, even

539
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 4: if he you know, even if he was allowed to

540
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 4: get out there and play, you know, they have to

541
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 4: go pretty far in the tournament. So but at any rate, Yeah,

542
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 4: that's that's uh, you know, that's pretty much the extent

543
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 4: of it. I don't I don't feel like there's a

544
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 4: you know, maybe a story that's been untold really or

545
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 4: you know, any any singular incident that happened or anything

546
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 4: that that led to this. But you know, obviously the

547
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 4: timing of it did did certainly you know, get people's

548
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 4: attention well.

549
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Speaker 1: And I can understand, you know. And also again, I

550
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 1: mean I grew up with Allen, right, I mean, I

551
00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: know the the competitive nature of it all, and I

552
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,239
Speaker 1: can I can appreciate and listen, I know, you know,

553
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 1: Alan Henderson comes from an academically based family, you know,

554
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: I mean his I know both his parents, you know, again,

555
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 1: and Alan is as smart as any kid. I grew

556
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 1: up with hell, he skipped a grade when we were

557
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: in elementary school, and then he and then you know,

558
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 1: at Orchard, I mean he was He's a very smart dude.

559
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: And so I understand the reality or the likelihood that

560
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,719
Speaker 1: this was a situation from the competitive standpoint of you

561
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: know what, this is a great school and a great opportunity,

562
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 1: But you know, Carmel is also a fantastic school that

563
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: offers both academically, socially and athletically, probably bigger challenges than

564
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 1: a smaller school. And I can certainly understand that Alan

565
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 1: and his wife may simply have said, that's what we

566
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 1: want to have provided for our son. He's gotten to

567
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 1: the point now where he's been introduced to the game

568
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 1: and developed his game. Now, how maybe he's hit the

569
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 1: ceiling of the level of development that can be seen

570
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 1: at that level, and so let's push it further. I

571
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: just thought, because it is not a semester break, and

572
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: it's not an end of season, the timing was simply

573
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: what was peculiar about it? For certain, But was there

574
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 1: anything nefarious? It would be unwise and irresponsible to me

575
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 1: to say that. But let's get into just itself teams

576
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 1: right now. Kyle as we get ready for the postseason.

577
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: Aside from that story, give me the team as opposed

578
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 1: to talking about who the favorites may be here in sectional,

579
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 1: Let's talk about a team that perhaps was clicking along

580
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 1: and at some point this year looked really really good

581
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: but might have peaked a little bit too early and

582
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 1: now you have a little bit of pause or concern

583
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,239
Speaker 1: for the way that they're playing now versus say two

584
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 1: or three months ago.

585
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 5: Yeah.

586
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 4: That's and one thing I will add to that too

587
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 4: is as Josh did you at a Creek Side element,

588
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 4: he is a Carmel Uh, you know, he's Carmel District

589
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 4: and everything. So you know that's uh. I just wanted

590
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 4: to add that to just in case, you know, people

591
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 4: were wondering about it's in the you know, in the story,

592
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 4: but just to add to that. But but yeah, I

593
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 4: mean that's a good that's a good question.

594
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 5: I think.

595
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 4: Uh, you know one team that I've I've covered a

596
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 4: few times and I'm kind of wondering if if I

597
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,719
Speaker 4: don't wonder how good they are, what they can potentially

598
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 4: do in the in the tournament is Ben Davis and

599
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 4: they just kind of and I talked to Don Carlyle

600
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 4: about this after the the Pike game and they lost

601
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 4: by three points, and they're right in the game and

602
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 4: it went down to the wire, and Pike's as good

603
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 4: as anybody, but they just kind of haven't got over

604
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 4: the hump against some of these better teams.

605
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 5: Now.

606
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 4: They came out and beat Lawrence Central pretty handily their

607
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 4: next game after they after they actually they lost to

608
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 4: Lawrence North and then beat else Uh, But they've kind

609
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 4: of been that team that, you know, I wonder if

610
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 4: they're going to break through, and then maybe it'll happen

611
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 4: in the sectional. They'll they'll play in the sectional at Plainfield,

612
00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 4: which is loaded with Plainfield and Pike in that bracket

613
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 4: as well with Brownsburg and Avon. But but they're kind

614
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 4: of that sleeper team to me. They started ten and

615
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 4: they lost it actually their first two, and then won

616
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 4: ten in a row, and then they've kind of hit

617
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 4: a little bit of a rougher patch here with with

618
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 4: four losses I think in their last six games. But

619
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 4: but I still think they're they're good enough with Jayshaun

620
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 4: Ladd and and and Sherman Moss that they can get

621
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 4: through and and and really create some havoc in that sectional,

622
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 4: but they haven't. You know, again, they just haven't quite

623
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 4: got over the hump against these better teams. So I

624
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 4: think that they kind of fit your category. But they

625
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 4: you know, they played really close against Carmel. You know,

626
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 4: they played close against Pike. You know that Lawrence North

627
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 4: game kind of got away a little bit from them.

628
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 4: But l En is very good as well this year.

629
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 4: So you know, these teams have lost. You are all

630
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 4: really good. But I think I think they can be

631
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 4: on par with those teams too. They just they haven't

632
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 4: quite done it here recently, but I think they're capable.

633
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 4: So I think that's one team that probably fits that bill.

634
00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, end with this, Kyle, I want you to

635
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 1: tell me. Kyle ned Rep is my guest. He's on

636
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 1: the Java House Colbrew Coffee guest line. I want you

637
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 1: to tell me, Kyle, of something you witnessed, something you

638
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 1: observed might not have even been in a game. Maybe

639
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 1: it was a practice, Maybe it was a kid you interviewed,

640
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: Maybe it was a coach you talked to. Maybe it

641
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 1: was a backstory. Maybe it was a story you told

642
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 1: about Ron Colly. Whatever it might be. But give me

643
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 1: the last thing that you witnessed that led you that

644
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,240
Speaker 1: night when you went to bed to say to yourself,

645
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: you know, it's pretty cool what I get to do

646
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,479
Speaker 1: for a living. These are the kinds of stories that, yeah,

647
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,959
Speaker 1: sure anybody can go out and cover the state title game.

648
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,919
Speaker 1: But to be able to witness or first hand, see

649
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: up close, or be privy to the kind of connection

650
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Speaker 1: that I saw, or story that I saw, or passion

651
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Speaker 1: that I saw, That's why I do what I do.

652
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Speaker 1: Tell me the last thing that invoked in you that emotion.

653
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I've got a good one for you.

654
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 4: I was at the girls sectional at Plainfield and they

655
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 4: had lost to Pike in the Sexual championship game. So

656
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Speaker 4: I'm in the hallway talking to Kurt Bench, the Plainfield

657
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Speaker 4: girls coach, and I had walked through the you know,

658
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 4: there's kind of that sort of a corridor that leads

659
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Speaker 4: back to the locker room that goes kind of underneath

660
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Speaker 4: the bleachers and all that, and you know, Kurt has

661
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 4: taking time to you know, hug the girls as they

662
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:22,879
Speaker 4: came out of the locker room. He's like, I'm sorry,

663
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 4: I gotta, you know, do that. I'm like, not, you

664
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Speaker 4: gotta do what you gotta do. And then we would

665
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Speaker 4: continue our interview. And that kind of went on for

666
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 4: a few minutes. And then as I was leaving to

667
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 4: go back through the doors, Hannah Menzer, the star player

668
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Speaker 4: for Plainfield, she's a junior. She was walking out about

669
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Speaker 4: the same time I was. And I knew all these girls,

670
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Speaker 4: these little girls probably ages, you know, maybe eight to ten,

671
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Speaker 4: not eleven, you know, somewhere in there. Maybe a little

672
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Speaker 4: bit younger even than that for some of them. But

673
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 4: there's probably about twelve or fourteen of them waiting outside

674
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Speaker 4: the locker room there down the corridor. And I said,

675
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Speaker 4: you know, you've been go out first, or they're going

676
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 4: to be sorely disappointed if I walk out and they're

677
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,439
Speaker 4: and they're waiting and they're waiting for you, and it's

678
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 4: me that comes out. So I followed her out. Uh,

679
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 4: it just kind of was coincidence. We walked out, you know,

680
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 4: I was right behind her. But I was like, man,

681
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 4: this is really really cool that that all these girls

682
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 4: were waiting for her after this really emotional loss. And

683
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 4: I was like, man, that's that, you know. And people

684
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Speaker 4: who know Michael Menzer, obviously a great player himself, who's

685
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 4: the on the administrative staff there at Plainfield now, but

686
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 4: was a great player at Indiana State and and but

687
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 4: his this is his daughter, and you know, I just

688
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 4: thought that was all these little girls, you know, that

689
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,800
Speaker 4: is how it gets passed down, you know, from generation

690
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 4: to generation. And what makes indian in high school basketball

691
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 4: so awesome is is that moment right there and you know,

692
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Speaker 4: she's hugging these girls who were sad that she lost,

693
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Speaker 4: but but she's their hero, you know, and that I

694
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 4: thought that was, like, man, very cool and totally coincidentally

695
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 4: I got to even see that moment just because of

696
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 4: when I walked out that door. But uh but yeah,

697
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 4: but to me, that really that really hit me. You know,

698
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 4: here's a you know, Hannah Menzer whose dad was a

699
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 4: great player, and now she's the hero to these little

700
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 4: girls who will probably always remember her for being the

701
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 4: great player that she is. But but yeah, that was

702
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 4: I thought a really cool moment from a couple of

703
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 4: weeks ago.

704
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Speaker 1: Very cool, indeed, Kyle, And you know, it's finding those

705
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 1: little nuggets that you know, obviously that's why you do

706
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 1: what you do and why we continue to read along

707
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: at the Indianapolis Star and have you on the program

708
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 1: as well. Always appreciate the perspective and time, enjoy the weekend,

709
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Speaker 1: and then get set for sectionals.

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Speaker 2: All right, all right, Jake, thanks for having me on.

711
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Speaker 1: Kyle Needrip joining us on the program. We come back.

712
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Speaker 1: It's a big one tonight at Mackie. It is Purdue

713
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 1: and Indiana around number two. We'll get more into that,

714
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: including looking at the perspective from inside the locker room

715
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:50,439
Speaker 1: of both. We'll do it on the other side. This

716
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:54,959
Speaker 1: song Eddie was on the streets to consume every fifth

717
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,800
Speaker 1: time you play, and I'll remind you the listeners of

718
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:03,959
Speaker 1: this probably but hit that. This song was in the

719
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 1: steady rotation of every like seemingly eighth video played in

720
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Speaker 1: the summer of nineteen ninety four when I was an

721
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Speaker 1: intern at MTV. This was constantly in this and keep

722
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Speaker 1: them Separated? Who sang that song? Somebody helped me out

723
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Speaker 1: here warrang g No, not that one there that keep

724
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Speaker 1: them separated? You gotta keep them separated? And somebody helped

725
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Speaker 1: me out. How am I having a blank here? The offspring?

726
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Speaker 2: The offspring, thank you, JAV says You're welcome.

727
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Speaker 1: Thank you.

728
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Speaker 2: John.

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Speaker 1: Also sabotaged by the Beastie Boys. Those were it was

730
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Speaker 1: literally just like a constant rotation. Indiana Purdue tonight in

731
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Speaker 1: West Lafayette Mackie Arena. This is one that Purdue is

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Speaker 1: I think sometimes they are. Purdue is falling victim to

733
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Speaker 1: the I call it the Alex Smith phenomenon. You've heard

734
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Speaker 1: me mention the Alex Smith phenomenon on a number of occasions.

735
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Speaker 1: Alex Smith was the number one overall selection of the

736
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Speaker 1: NFL Draft, taken by the San Francisco forty nine ers

737
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: and was okay and then really found his footing and

738
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Speaker 1: became a really nice player once he went to Kansas

739
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 1: City and Washington and had a really really good career.

740
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Speaker 1: And the career that he had at the other two

741
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,320
Speaker 1: stops would have been sufficient in San Francisco except for

742
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Speaker 1: that he had been the number one overall selection. And

743
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: when that's the case, with that comes a totally different expectation.

744
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 1: And then you have other quarterbacks that get drafted, you know,

745
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: in the middle of the second round, third round, Russell Wilson,

746
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,760
Speaker 1: and they have great careers and it's like, man, unbelievable career,

747
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 1: especially considering you know, we didn't anticipate paid or expect that.

748
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 1: And Purdue is falling victim. I think a little bit

749
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 1: to the Alex Smith phenomenon in that at the beginning

750
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Speaker 1: of the year, people myself included Guilty is Charged, had

751
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:18,360
Speaker 1: an expectation that they were and would be throughout the

752
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: course of the year the best team in college basketball,

753
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:28,399
Speaker 1: and that through the course of the season they were

754
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: never going to slide any more than outside of say,

755
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,320
Speaker 1: the top four in rankings. And I know the rankings.

756
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 1: You can say what you want about it, but you

757
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 1: get what I'm saying there, and that when they you know,

758
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,959
Speaker 1: maybe they'd slip up against a Michigan, but they would

759
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 1: beat Illinois, and they would beat you know, and get

760
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 1: other wins and not lose games at home, and Iowa

761
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: State wouldn't come in and do what they did against them.

762
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,320
Speaker 1: And there has never been anything to show that Purdue

763
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 1: habitually is going to backslide themselves out of being in

764
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 1: that upper echelon conversation per se. But they they seemingly

765
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 1: are hesitant to get both feet inside that door. A

766
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 1: lot of that is I think the perimeter defense. They

767
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: just have not guarded the three well. Teams have gotten

768
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 1: too many open looks, and that might be tonight advantage

769
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 1: Indiana because Indiana if they are what we know about

770
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 1: Indiana is that Indiana is at its best really at

771
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,319
Speaker 1: the only time that Indiana is at its good is

772
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 1: when they are getting outside scoring from beyond Wilkerson. And

773
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 1: you know, Nick Doran hadn't hit a shot. We got

774
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 1: all excited about him. He's been completely absent here for

775
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 1: like five weeks in a row. Five games in Erow.

776
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: I probably should say Sam Alexis has given them a

777
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 1: little bit of juice on the inside. Tucker Devrees, I

778
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 1: don't know if it's the injury or just lost a step,

779
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: but he's had inability to get himself open looks. But

780
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 1: when he does, he obviously can shoot. If Indiana is

781
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 1: able to get around the arc and get themselves open

782
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 1: looks tonight, that's going to really be big for them.

783
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 1: And that's the area that Purdue has shown a vulnerability.

784
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 1: And from Indiana's standpoint, Indiana is more than Russell Wilson.

785
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 1: Anything they do is gravy because there was not a

786
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 1: lot of expectation going into it. And I think yes,

787
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 1: Indiana by pedigree expects and anticipates to be a bigger

788
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 1: name factor comes selection Sunday. But for a franchise on

789
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 1: a program. I guess I should say that at the

790
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 1: beginning of the year, we didn't even know who most

791
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 1: of the roster was going to be. I think Darren DeVries,

792
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 1: you would have to say and be optimistic about what

793
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: he's been able to put together with this group, and

794
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 1: a win tonight would be even additional gravy on the gravy,

795
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 1: because that's kind of where this season has been for Indiana.

796
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 1: But there's a lot to discuss about it, and so

797
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 1: we're going to go on both sides of it. Upcoming

798
00:43:57,840 --> 00:43:59,800
Speaker 1: we go back to the Indianapolis Star, the man that

799
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,399
Speaker 1: hovers Indiana Athletics for the Star. He is our friend

800
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:07,439
Speaker 1: Zach who and Zach and I love the same beer.

801
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: We have the same favorite beer aside from PBR, which

802
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 1: I love surfside side of beer though correct a beer,

803
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 1: PBR my favorite, but this other one internationally speaking, well,

804
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 1: ask Zach if he remembers which one I'm talking about

805
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 1: and if it's because you know, you go through rotations

806
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 1: of favorites, right. But I want to get the Indiana

807
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: side of things and what we might see and maybe

808
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 1: even a different look they might try to create tonight

809
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 1: against perdue. We'll have that conversation next. I'm telling you

810
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 1: this song was everywhere. It's a good song, good song.

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Speaker 1: Dave First was a fan of the Offspring. First was

812
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 1: a big Offspring guy. They're out of San Diego. I

813
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:56,439
Speaker 1: believe San Diego or Santa Cruz. But hard to keep

814
00:44:56,480 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 1: Indiana and produce separated. Perhaps tonight will it be. You know,

815
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,240
Speaker 1: there's always kind of that bad blood at least between

816
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 1: the fans players themselves on the court. Tonight mac Arena

817
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 1: eight o'clock tip pregame at seven o'clock. You can hear

818
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 1: it on our sister station WIBC and joining us now

819
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Speaker 1: on the Java House Cold Brew and again I want

820
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 1: to reimplay. If you're going to the game, you're going

821
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 1: up to the Lafayette area. There are multiple Java House

822
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 1: locations of the cafes. There's also one in downtown India

823
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 1: on New York Street. There's one in the Simon Building,

824
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,720
Speaker 1: there's one in Broaderpool. There are two in the Carmel area.

825
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 1: And if you use the Java House app, download the

826
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Speaker 1: app or are your beverage ahead of time? Your food

827
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 1: ahead of time? Used to co Jake twenty five twenty

828
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Speaker 1: five percent off, and of course Java House the cold brew.

829
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,399
Speaker 1: You can get hot coffee. It's just the cold brew

830
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 1: is the way in which it's formulated. That's what makes

831
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 1: it so smooth, always smooth. When discussing Indiana basketball, our

832
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 1: friend from the Indianapolis Star joining us on the guest line.

833
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,720
Speaker 1: It is Zach As Zach. I'll begin with the trivia

834
00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 1: question of this. I'm going to put your memory to test.

835
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Speaker 1: I had said in leading into you just a moment ago,

836
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Speaker 1: that you and I share a passion for the same

837
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Speaker 1: international beer. Do you remember which one it is that

838
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 1: we have determined is our common ground, because I'm assuming,

839
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 1: like me, you have enjoyed several different international beers. But

840
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 1: which one is the one that we have in common

841
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: as a favorite?

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00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 3: Well, it is I think best enjoyed.

843
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 6: In the summer a nice cold pine of tenants and

844
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 6: in the winter a slightly warmer pint of tenants.

845
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Speaker 1: Fair enough, that is correct, Which is the pride of Scotland,

846
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: by the way, one of them. Okay, let's get to

847
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 1: this act tonight with Indiana. The mystery for me has

848
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:45,240
Speaker 1: been this, and that is for Indiana continuing to try

849
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:49,760
Speaker 1: to maybe work different offensive combinations of secondary and third

850
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 1: score if you will, And by that I mean Wilkerson

851
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 1: is a flat out scorer. He came out of the

852
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 1: bottle as a guy ready to score. But there have

853
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 1: been other players that have had their moments, but no

854
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:07,439
Speaker 1: one has consistently been necessarily a second and third running mate.

855
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 1: Where does Indiana find balance there and what can they

856
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 1: do to try to get consistency of offensive supporting help.

857
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Speaker 3: I mean, I think that's a good question.

858
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 6: I think it's a million dollar questions that Indian has

859
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 6: been chasing basically the whole season, largely because it hasn't,

860
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 6: for whatever reason or reasons, been able to get that

861
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 6: from Tucker Debries, I think the you know, I think

862
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:35,800
Speaker 6: one thing that's been interesting to me is these last

863
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 6: you know, sort of handful of games, how much more

864
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 6: sort of demonstrable the offense has been toward getting the ball.

865
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:45,839
Speaker 3: To Sam Alexis.

866
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 6: And you know, you think about the Oregon game to

867
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 6: an extent, Yes, you know, Oregon just kind of got

868
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 6: flooded under in that game in general, as has happened

869
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 6: to orgon a lot this year. But that Wisconsin game,

870
00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 6: you know, when the offense kind of dried up in

871
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 6: Wisconsin knuckle down on the has the last eight ten minutes,

872
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 6: there was a lot of like direct post up to

873
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 6: Sam Alexis, and this is you know, people like me

874
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 6: who wrote a ton of stuff back in the summer

875
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 6: about how Darren Debriess teams were among the least post

876
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 6: up driven teams offensively in the last like five years.

877
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 6: You know, I remember watching and trying to chart one

878
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 6: of those games in Puerto Rico where I don't think

879
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 6: I found the Indiana.

880
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 3: I think I found Indiana.

881
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 6: With like two post up possessions over forty minutes, like

882
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:32,359
Speaker 6: they just didn't do it. And I don't think Darren

883
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 6: Debris has a massive aversion of post up offense. I

884
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 6: just don't think it's what he runs, and I think

885
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:37,320
Speaker 6: for a lot of the season he hasn't.

886
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 3: But it's interesting to me to.

887
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 6: Sort of see him, to see him specifically designed something

888
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 6: around his five man the way that he has in

889
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 6: these last few games, because I think that is Sorry,

890
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 6: my seven year old is home sick from school and

891
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 6: he's shouting for reasons passing understanding at the moment, I apologize.

892
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:03,359
Speaker 6: It's been interesting to see Indiana shift to more of

893
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 6: that because it seems like Indiana maybe is trying to

894
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 6: ignite that within that's that's not a great word, but

895
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 6: trying to build that into its offense at this time

896
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 6: of year. I think you still want to see more

897
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 6: from Tucker Debrees. I think, you know, you obviously should

898
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 6: have a level of belief based on his past performance,

899
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 6: not just this season but over his career, that Nick

900
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 6: Doran is just in a bit of shooting slump right

901
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 6: now and that this isn't permanent.

902
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 3: But the post piece of it is something that's kind

903
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 3: of gotten my attention.

904
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 6: And especially against producing that you know, Illinois was always

905
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 6: just going to completely crowd Indiana out around the rim.

906
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 3: They're they're just huge as a team, but.

907
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:42,839
Speaker 6: Indiana is maybe matches up size wise a little bit

908
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 6: more players for player with Purdue. Does Indiana try to

909
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 6: do some of that tonight?

910
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 1: Is Tucker Debris one hundred percent healthy?

911
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 2: I think so.

912
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 6: I mean, I think that you know the question I

913
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 6: have and probably one we won't get an honest answer

914
00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 6: to realistically, but you know, until after the season over.

915
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 6: But when I've been sort of trying to poke around

916
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 6: these last few weeks, it's more just like, is it

917
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,400
Speaker 6: an immediate concern or is it, you know, just the

918
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:10,879
Speaker 6: fact that he's played one hundred and forty some odd

919
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:12,800
Speaker 6: games in college. And I know it's easy for people

920
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 6: like you and me to say, well, he's twenty two, twenty.

921
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 3: Three, twenty four years old, he's in the best shape

922
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:19,359
Speaker 3: of his life. He has no reason to be in pain.

923
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 6: But you know, go play one hundred and forty one

924
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 6: games of college basketball, most of which you are the

925
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 6: leading scorer, the sort of you know, everything man for

926
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 6: your team, which means you're going to get that kind

927
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 6: of attention from the other team. Defensively, which means you're

928
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:38,360
Speaker 6: probably going to get roughed up and bumped around and

929
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:42,239
Speaker 6: all those different things. I have wondered more if there

930
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:45,359
Speaker 6: is a wear and tear element that is maybe built

931
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:48,320
Speaker 6: up over several seasons. I also think, and we've given

932
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 6: people like me, have given Tucker Debries a lot of

933
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:55,319
Speaker 6: credit for the way that he's kind of found other

934
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 6: ways to impact winning, you know, the assists, the rebounds.

935
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:02,280
Speaker 6: I think he's been really good offensively in some important

936
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:05,839
Speaker 6: stretches for Indiana, but sometimes it's easy to forget that

937
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 6: does take something away.

938
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 3: From your offensive games.

939
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:11,359
Speaker 6: And if he's you know, if he's trying to sort

940
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 6: of emphasize those other areas too. Is it possible that

941
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 6: that is, you know, somehow kind of creating a drag

942
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 6: on his offense. I'm not sure this is Also it's

943
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 6: worth saying the first time that he's been on a

944
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 6: team in college, which he was probably not its most

945
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:31,800
Speaker 6: capable scorer, and so maybe there's some of that dynamic

946
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 6: two of trying to figure out where to fit and.

947
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 3: How to fit next to Lamar Wilkerson.

948
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 6: But I think it's clear that Indiana it is better

949
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 6: when Tucker de Rees is getting in his offensive game,

950
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:44,399
Speaker 6: is getting shots in it, hitting shots.

951
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 1: When you look. Zach Osterman is our guest from the

952
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 1: Indianapol Star previewing tonight Indiana and Purdue, and with what

953
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 1: Indiana did in round one, if you will, does has

954
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 1: Darren Devrees Zach offered any perspective on this? Does Indiana

955
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 1: just say, here's what we did in that game that worked,

956
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 1: We're gonna try that go with that same model, or

957
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 1: do they anticipate some sort of adjustment or variation they

958
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 1: need to present.

959
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm sure there's there's always gonna be some

960
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 6: anticipating adjustment, and you know this is where, like I

961
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 6: will admit that I will oversimplify this kind of analysis sometimes,

962
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 6: I do think it's probably fair to say, though this

963
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:28,280
Speaker 6: this team has some pretty clearly defined paths to winning

964
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:33,879
Speaker 6: against just about anybody. And that stretches all the way

965
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 6: back to August, that stretches all the way back to

966
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:38,320
Speaker 6: San Juan in terms of sort of saying, hey, the

967
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:42,800
Speaker 6: way this team's gonna win games are pretty apparent.

968
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 3: The way this team's gonna lose games are pretty apparent.

969
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 6: The lack of size, you know, maybe the lack of

970
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 6: sort of dominant lateral quickness and lengths defensively, some rebounding issues,

971
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 6: you know, some some issues with maybe more than one

972
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 6: or two players having the ability to create off the

973
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 6: dribble rather than create within the flow of the offense.

974
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 6: And so I think if you're Indiana, like there's there's

975
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:10,840
Speaker 6: more of an extent to which I think it's you

976
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 6: will certainly want to have learned some positive lessons from

977
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 6: Purdue that you can take back into this game. But

978
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:20,360
Speaker 6: I think if you're Indiana, there's there's also kind of

979
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 6: an element of hey, like, we are what we are,

980
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 6: We know what wins this games and Frankly, there's some

981
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:27,320
Speaker 6: of that stuff that gives Purdue trouble.

982
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 3: You know, Purdue.

983
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 6: Has really struggled against teams that are proven inability at times,

984
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 6: not uniformly, but at times over the last couple of years,

985
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:38,800
Speaker 6: teams that are proven inability to be able to hit shots,

986
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,240
Speaker 6: you know, to be able to hit freeze and stretch

987
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 6: Purdue a little bit defensively, isolate bigs inside, don't let Purdue,

988
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 6: you know, kind of get on top of you with

989
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 6: the rebounding advantage, and then make them keep up with

990
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 6: you offensively.

991
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 3: Now that's easier said than done.

992
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:54,760
Speaker 6: I cannot iways, even looking back to some box sports today,

993
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:56,919
Speaker 6: I cannot remember the last time Indiana shot the ball

994
00:53:56,920 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 6: well at Matthew. But it is a very difficult play.

995
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:01,799
Speaker 6: It's going You can't just go there and assume you're

996
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 6: going to hit twelve threes. But that has that has

997
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 6: been an issue for Purdue probably for most of the

998
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 6: last two years. It was certainly an issue in this

999
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 6: first matchup, not just because Okay, threes count for more

1000
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:16,319
Speaker 6: than twos and teams to hit threes tend to have

1001
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 6: more success and all that, but because of what I

1002
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 6: think it does to produce specifically lineup wise, the way

1003
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:23,880
Speaker 6: that it stretches for due out defensively, the way that

1004
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 6: it starts to take advantage of in this matchitude can

1005
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 6: create the way that it doesn't allow Perdue to crash

1006
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 6: the boards as easily necessarily, because if they're having to

1007
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 6: stretch that defense out past the perimeter, they're not going

1008
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 6: to have as many bodies around the rim. And I

1009
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 6: think if you're Indiana, you would look at tonight and

1010
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 6: you would say, if we can get a few of

1011
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 6: those shots to go in early, then then we have

1012
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 6: a chance to maybe kind of discombobulate Purdue's game plan

1013
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 6: in the same way we did in Bloomington.

1014
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 3: But again, that is easier said than done in that building.

1015
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 1: You know, one thing I've never really asked Ach. You know,

1016
00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:00,319
Speaker 1: we've gotten to know Kurt Signetti a little bit. I

1017
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 1: don't mean personally, but I think fans know who he is,

1018
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:05,840
Speaker 1: what he's about. We see a lot of him. Darren

1019
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 1: Derez has kind of been a little bit more in

1020
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 1: the shadows, partially because of the success the success of

1021
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 1: Indiana football. But you know, it's it's the first year

1022
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:17,799
Speaker 1: and it's a roster. We were unfamiliar with, and I

1023
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 1: do think that they are playing better basketball than they

1024
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 1: were at the beginning of the year. I think he

1025
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 1: deserves credit for that. But from what you can tell,

1026
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 1: what kind of guy is he? Honestly, like, who is

1027
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 1: the man that is guiding Indiana basketball? Uh?

1028
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 6: He is, I mean incredibly laid back, like relative to

1029
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:39,840
Speaker 6: his profession. And I don't say that point in anyone

1030
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 6: college basketball coach. I've just been around college basketball coaches

1031
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 6: for a long time. They are a very high energy bunch.

1032
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 6: And it's not like he doesn't have energy. Actually the

1033
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:50,720
Speaker 6: most energetic I think you see him as on the sideline,

1034
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 6: but like he's about as easy going as anybody I

1035
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 6: have ever covered in the job.

1036
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 3: It's interesting because when we.

1037
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 6: Kind of got some time to get to normal little

1038
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 6: bit sit down with him back in the spring, you know,

1039
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:06,319
Speaker 6: he was insightful, and he was he was professional, and

1040
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:07,840
Speaker 6: he was you know, a good interview and good to

1041
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:09,839
Speaker 6: deal with. But I kind of remember thinking that he

1042
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:13,359
Speaker 6: was almost like a little too quiet in a way,

1043
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 6: and I sort of wondered if that would play with

1044
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:16,399
Speaker 6: donors and things.

1045
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 3: And then and then we went.

1046
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 6: And covered its first trip to hubert I don't know

1047
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:23,879
Speaker 6: if you were familiar with the annual swing in late May,

1048
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:26,799
Speaker 6: Indiana always goes down and has a big fundraising event

1049
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 6: at Huber's Orchard.

1050
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:31,360
Speaker 3: And Winery down in Borden, and.

1051
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:33,400
Speaker 6: The football coach is the basketball coach always go and

1052
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 6: it's somehow or another, it's become a media event down

1053
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 6: the years.

1054
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 3: And when he got in front of a room of

1055
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 3: a thousand and I you.

1056
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 6: Donors, you know, like like the light bulb came on

1057
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:45,399
Speaker 6: and he was a different person. You saw that again

1058
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 6: with that event they had down on Kirkwood where he

1059
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 6: bought everybody a drink and you could see, like it

1060
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 6: the ability to kind of bring a little bit more

1061
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 6: personality out when he needs it. Now, I think, you know,

1062
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 6: certainly on the court and on the sideline, he is

1063
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:00,319
Speaker 6: very competitive most of his own team. I think he

1064
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:03,239
Speaker 6: is actually genuinely sort of proud of the fact that

1065
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:05,319
Speaker 6: he's never been whistled for a technical foul, although there

1066
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:06,759
Speaker 6: have been a couple of times this season that I've

1067
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 6: wondered if Big ten referees took that as a personal challenge,

1068
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 6: But you know it, he I think by and large,

1069
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 6: he just kind of is what you see I think

1070
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 6: he's a lot like somebody like Greg McDermott or Dana Alton,

1071
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 6: where there's there's not a lot of history onics, there's

1072
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 6: not a lot of sort of over animation. There's just

1073
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 6: kind of a basketball coach who's intense and competitive on

1074
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 6: the sideline and just generally a little bit more circumspect

1075
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 6: of it.

1076
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 1: Okay, so what do we anticipate tonight? Early in this

1077
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 1: game between Purduing Indiana and Macurina, you are going to

1078
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Speaker 1: basically look at if something specific is happening that that's

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Speaker 1: going to tell you the way this game is going

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00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 1: to go. What's it going to be?

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00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 6: Again, this is really simplistic, but how Indiana is scoring

1082
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 6: the ball? From Indiana's perspective, they have not shown an

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00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 6: ability to play to to have success against anybody with

1084
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 6: a pulse when they're not scoring the ball. This is

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00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 6: a team that wins by scoring. It is a team

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00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 6: built to win with offense. And that doesn't mean that

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00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:13,120
Speaker 6: they can't defend their way through certain stretches. You know,

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00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 6: they only allowed Purdue what was sixty seven points, sixty

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00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 6: five points, sixty seven.

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Speaker 3: In the game in Bloomington.

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Speaker 6: You know that they have been frankly better defensively than

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00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 6: I expected them to be. If you rewind back to

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00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 6: some of those practices we got to see in the summer,

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00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:29,959
Speaker 6: I thought, oh, man, like this team could really really

1095
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 6: struggle defensively. They have been a lot better than I

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00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:34,439
Speaker 6: thought they would be at the defensive end of the floor.

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00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 3: But they win by scoring. That's just said at their DNA.

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00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 3: That's how they're built. And I'm I've said this a

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Speaker 3: couple of times already day.

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Speaker 6: I have not been as fascinated by an EU Purdue game,

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00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 6: either in Bloomington or in West Lafayette as I am

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00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 6: by this one in a while. And that really has

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00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 6: probably more to do with Purdue because Indiana, certainly Indiana

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00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 6: fans will never look at a game against Purdue and

1105
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 6: say it's a free hit. But if you wipe away

1106
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 6: the names and the rosters and you just look at you're,

1107
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 6: you know, the the sort of the the the the record,

1108
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 6: the net ranking, whatever where you're playing, when you're playing,

1109
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 6: et cetera. This is kind of Indiana's least important games.

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Speaker 1: And it's really big for Purdue, don't you feel that way, Zach.

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00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 1: It's really big for Purdue.

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00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 6: It's it is it is Indiana's least important game unless

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00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 6: they win it, and then that changes basically everything about

1114
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 6: the context of this season. That puts them safely in

1115
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 6: the NCAA tournament field. It gives Darren Debris the sweep

1116
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 6: of his rival in year one. It is a signature

1117
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:46,960
Speaker 6: road wind that even something like UCLA wouldn't be. But

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00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 6: if they lose it, the last four games of the season,

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00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 6: and certainly those those three home games were always more

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00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 6: important to especially because Indiana has already beaten Purdue once

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00:59:55,880 --> 01:00:01,920
Speaker 6: this season. The context of was year one under Darren Debris' success,

1122
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 6: did they get to the tournament?

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Speaker 3: Did they sort of.

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Speaker 6: Show proof of concepts and justify like the path that

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Speaker 6: Indiana's put itself on here the three games after this

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01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 6: when it really even they said, the four games after

1127
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 6: this one, it's again you removed all the sort of

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01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 6: you know, the passion and the emotion from the matchups

1129
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 6: themselves were always the more important games. But to your point,

1130
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Speaker 6: where is Purdue? Because eight games ago Purdue was seventeen

1131
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 6: and one, they were flying, They looked as good at

1132
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:30,920
Speaker 6: any team in the country.

1133
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:32,919
Speaker 3: Then they lost three in a row. We sort of said,

1134
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 3: that's a blip. Everyone's allowed to blip.

1135
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 6: Then they won four in a row, and we sort

1136
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 6: of said, hey, they pulled themselves out of it, and

1137
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:42,120
Speaker 6: this was a huge week for them. It was Michigan.

1138
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Speaker 6: And I know I'm the imperfect vessel for this. I

1139
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 6: know I'm the IU writer for the Indianapolis Star, So

1140
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:50,320
Speaker 6: you know, Purdue fans listening, please understand. I say this

1141
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:54,960
Speaker 6: with absolutely no bias or mouth or anything. I genuinely

1142
01:00:55,880 --> 01:01:00,720
Speaker 6: love watching Matt Painter basketball. It is as complete neutral.

1143
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 6: It is something that brings me great joy. I am

1144
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:08,120
Speaker 6: fascinated to know where this Purdue team is because if

1145
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:09,800
Speaker 6: they win a game like this, and especially if they

1146
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:12,360
Speaker 6: win it comfortably, and they could, they are justifiably a

1147
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:14,320
Speaker 6: double digit favor at least they were the last time

1148
01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 6: I saw the line. Then we can say, hey, that's

1149
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 6: four of five and the one loss was to the

1150
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:23,800
Speaker 6: best team in the country. You can write that off.

1151
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 6: But this team is still in great shape. They're headed

1152
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 6: for the tournament. They're gonna be a top two seed.

1153
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:32,080
Speaker 6: You know that, maybe they can get Michigan again in

1154
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:33,120
Speaker 6: the Big Ten.

1155
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:33,800
Speaker 3: Whatever.

1156
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:38,280
Speaker 6: If they lose, suddenly it's they're four and five and

1157
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:40,680
Speaker 6: their last nine and they got swept by their rival,

1158
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:43,040
Speaker 6: and the biggest week of their season, they wound up

1159
01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:46,480
Speaker 6: going zero to two. I am just fascinated to know

1160
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 6: where this Purdue team is because I do feel like

1161
01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 6: this group still has some miles to travel together. I

1162
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:57,480
Speaker 6: also feel like this group has seen itself kind of

1163
01:01:57,560 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 6: run into and be unable to so all the same

1164
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:03,880
Speaker 6: problems a lot in the last couple of years. Not

1165
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 6: a lot in terms of losses, but a lot in

1166
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 6: terms of moments that we remember. And I am fascinated

1167
01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:15,600
Speaker 6: to see where Purdue is. When I say Indiana's scoring,

1168
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:19,280
Speaker 6: that's how Indiana ways games, but it's also what if

1169
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 6: it is thirty three, thirty two Indiana at halftime. What

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01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 6: if we're at the under twelfth time out and Indiana's

1171
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 6: only down two. What if we get to the last

1172
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:30,800
Speaker 6: five minutes and Indiana's you know, up sixty six to

1173
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:34,720
Speaker 6: sixty and it's a close game. But some of those

1174
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:37,440
Speaker 6: old some of those old fears, some of those old

1175
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 6: doubts are creeping in from what Purdue's has sort of

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01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:43,240
Speaker 6: seen itself, the problems that's seen itself unable to solve

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01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 6: in you know, some of these recent losses That's where

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01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:50,280
Speaker 6: I think Indiana has got to keep the scoreboard pressure

1179
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 6: up tonight. It has got to hit shots. It's got

1180
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 6: to score with Purdue. It's got to absorb. There will

1181
01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:58,919
Speaker 6: inevitably be a couple of Naki runs, and it's got

1182
01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:02,120
Speaker 6: to find a way to absorb. Because I am I'm

1183
01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 6: fascinated by this game, and I am particularly fascinated to

1184
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 6: know what this looks like. If again it is like

1185
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:14,640
Speaker 6: Indiana sixty six produced sixty two at the last media timeout,

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Speaker 6: I have no idea what that looks like, Zach.

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Speaker 1: Finally, what we do know what it looks like, and

1188
01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:24,919
Speaker 1: that is the extended future or certainty thereof of Kurt

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Speaker 1: Signetti with Indiana. Correct. Is there a new development in

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01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:28,560
Speaker 1: that regard?

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01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:32,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, So he gets a new contract. He's now making

1192
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:34,520
Speaker 6: an average of thirteen point two million dollars. We don't

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01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 6: have the full term, so I don't know if he's

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01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:37,920
Speaker 6: I don't, I don't, you know. Typically that's not what

1195
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 6: he's going to make next year, right, That's that's the

1196
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:44,360
Speaker 6: average of the whole contract, year on year, average annual value.

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01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:48,760
Speaker 6: I think it's the preferred term in baseball. It's this

1198
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:51,640
Speaker 6: is not that it wasn't like a discussion or negotiation,

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Speaker 6: but this was written into the contract he signed in October.

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01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:59,880
Speaker 6: Then if Indiana anytime Indiana made the playoff semi final,

1201
01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:05,480
Speaker 6: the university the athletic department was required to go through

1202
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:08,520
Speaker 6: I think it called it like a good faith market

1203
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:13,479
Speaker 6: review that basically ended with Kurt Signetti being placed among

1204
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:17,480
Speaker 6: the top three highest paid coaches in the country. And

1205
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:20,760
Speaker 6: so this was always kind of in the in the

1206
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 6: in the mail, so to speak. This was I think

1207
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:26,160
Speaker 6: a lot more pro forma, a lot more just sort

1208
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:28,680
Speaker 6: of well, here are the top three numbers, here's how

1209
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:32,360
Speaker 6: we position you within that group, and a lot less

1210
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 6: sort of Okay, now let's talk about bonuses. Now, let's

1211
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:37,520
Speaker 6: talk about extra Now let's talk about staffing pool. There

1212
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:39,240
Speaker 6: may be some of that stuff too when we get

1213
01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:43,000
Speaker 6: a hold of the full deal. The term itself did

1214
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:45,920
Speaker 6: not extend. It still runs through twenty thirty three. But

1215
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:48,240
Speaker 6: this was much more of just kind of like a

1216
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:52,080
Speaker 6: I mean, it sounds weird to say that a you know,

1217
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:54,560
Speaker 6: one point seven million dollar raise was just sort of

1218
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 6: like a formality, but this was a little bit more

1219
01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 6: like that than the sort of you know, the relative

1220
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:06,520
Speaker 6: drama of a totally renegotiated deal.

1221
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Speaker 1: Those are some J and V numbers. Man Like, that's impressive, right,

1222
01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:13,520
Speaker 1: Lock it in, baby, lock it in and tear off

1223
01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:16,240
Speaker 1: the knobs. Zach. Appreciate the time as always, Indiana Purdue

1224
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:18,520
Speaker 1: and all the coverage from the Indiana side at the

1225
01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:21,040
Speaker 1: Indianapolis Star was Zach Osterman, who joins us on the program.

1226
01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:22,000
Speaker 1: Appreciate it man.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for having me as always.

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01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:25,720
Speaker 1: We'll get the cold tenants in the summer and a

1229
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 1: warm tenants in the winter. Love it, Love it. Now

1230
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 1: from the Purdue side of things, now that we've gotten

1231
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:37,120
Speaker 1: where Indiana stands and what adjustments does Purdue make coming

1232
01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:41,520
Speaker 1: off of game number one, what did they learn? And

1233
01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 1: for Purdue, I haven't a way of looking at this

1234
01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:49,000
Speaker 1: that kind of what Zach mentioned that makes it a

1235
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:53,040
Speaker 1: little bit fascinating. And what I mean by that is

1236
01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:57,640
Speaker 1: there are two ways from Purdue standpoint to look at

1237
01:05:57,680 --> 01:06:04,439
Speaker 1: this coming off of Indiana getting round one, and it's

1238
01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:08,560
Speaker 1: something that probably Indiana fans aren't gonna like, but I'm

1239
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:10,480
Speaker 1: curious to ask it, and so I'll ask it with

1240
01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:13,480
Speaker 1: Sam King, who covers the Boilers. We'll do it other

1241
01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:16,800
Speaker 1: side here acquarding company on an Indiana Purdue Friday on

1242
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:22,560
Speaker 1: the fan. So tonight eight o'clock, by the way, big

1243
01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:27,120
Speaker 1: slate of stuff going on in the sports world. Tonight,

1244
01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:33,280
Speaker 1: Pacers on the second half of their Washington two step saw.

1245
01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:34,840
Speaker 2: Nobody says a second.

1246
01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:38,919
Speaker 1: They are in Washington seven o'clock tip pregame at six thirty.

1247
01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:41,920
Speaker 1: You can hear that right here on this radio station.

1248
01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:46,120
Speaker 1: As for our sister station ninety three WIBC, it is

1249
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:50,200
Speaker 1: the pregame beginning at seven o'clock and then Purdue and

1250
01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:55,160
Speaker 1: Indiana tipping at eight pm. For the Boilers. After that

1251
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 1: they are off until Tuesday against Northwestern. Excuse me. Indiana

1252
01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:05,680
Speaker 1: is off until Tuesday against Northwestern, and Purdue, on the

1253
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:10,200
Speaker 1: other hand, will be off until Thursday against Michigan State.

1254
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:13,320
Speaker 1: So tough one again for Purdue after that. Joining us

1255
01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:16,920
Speaker 1: now on the Java House Colebrew Coffee guest line, he is,

1256
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:19,440
Speaker 1: of course with the Lafayette Now help me out here,

1257
01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:24,160
Speaker 1: Eddie Journal and Courier. You got it right, Yes, all right,

1258
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:27,360
Speaker 1: lafayat Journal and Courier, Sam King, joining us return guests

1259
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:29,560
Speaker 1: to the program. Sam, I'm going to begin right away

1260
01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:33,240
Speaker 1: with this, and that is for Purdue. When you look

1261
01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:38,080
Speaker 1: at this particular game. Is this is Purdue more worried

1262
01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:41,560
Speaker 1: about making adjustments of what they didn't do against Indiana

1263
01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:44,440
Speaker 1: and round one or does Purdue have bigger fish to

1264
01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:48,120
Speaker 1: fry of You know what, We've had a few games

1265
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:50,680
Speaker 1: since then that have been of more importance and we

1266
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:54,040
Speaker 1: have other areas to get ourselves right as opposed to

1267
01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:57,960
Speaker 1: esoterically honing in on what Indiana may or may not do.

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01:07:57,960 --> 01:08:00,160
Speaker 1: Does that make sense at all what I'm talking about up?

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01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:04,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, it does. And you know, if you go back

1270
01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:06,400
Speaker 7: to that game in Bloomington, I think the issue was,

1271
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:09,520
Speaker 7: for whatever reason, for about twenty five to thirty minutes

1272
01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:11,520
Speaker 7: a game time Perdue just looked like it was out

1273
01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 7: there going through the motions and didn't play hard. And

1274
01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:16,880
Speaker 7: Matt Paynter is a guy who doesn't typically rip his

1275
01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:20,120
Speaker 7: team in postgame, and that day he did. He just

1276
01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:23,320
Speaker 7: said it was unexplainable why the team came out flat

1277
01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:27,679
Speaker 7: like that and ultimately nearly came back and pulled it off.

1278
01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:29,400
Speaker 7: But you can't put yourself on that kind of a hole.

1279
01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:32,000
Speaker 7: I think if Purdue comes out and plays hard and

1280
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:34,439
Speaker 7: then improves on the things that it didn't do well

1281
01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:38,120
Speaker 7: in some of these losses, three point defense, rebounding. I

1282
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:40,480
Speaker 7: think pretty will be fine, but this is a monumental

1283
01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:43,120
Speaker 7: game for the legacies of some of these guys who

1284
01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:45,519
Speaker 7: have played Indiana for four years and have come up

1285
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:48,200
Speaker 7: on the wrong end of it more than they haven't.

1286
01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:52,759
Speaker 1: What specifically for Purdue if you were to look sam

1287
01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:56,559
Speaker 1: in your opinion, your observation, what you've heard in talking

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Speaker 1: to Matt Paynter, what you've seen in practice, what is

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Speaker 1: the area for Purdue that has been their deficiency that

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01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:09,040
Speaker 1: has prohibited them from being the team that as we

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01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:11,559
Speaker 1: thought it would be one that had a lock on

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Speaker 1: a number one seed throughout the totality of season. What

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01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:15,400
Speaker 1: has misfired?

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Speaker 7: I think the number one thing. And this is not

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Speaker 7: something that Pinterers said specifically, but if you watch them,

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Speaker 7: you kind of see the common trends as three point defense.

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Speaker 7: The five losses produced had teams are shooting forty six

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Speaker 7: percent from three. Michigan had you know, wide open shots

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Speaker 7: the other night, and you know you're not going to

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01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:37,320
Speaker 7: miss them when you're that open and you can just

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Speaker 7: stand on the spot, catch the ball, spot up and shoot.

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Speaker 7: The games that produced one or I guess the season

1303
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Speaker 7: as a whole produce held opponents to like thirty three

1304
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:47,960
Speaker 7: percent from beyond the arc, which you'd still like that

1305
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:52,679
Speaker 7: to be lower, but it's significantly higher. And Indiana didn't

1306
01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:55,439
Speaker 7: shoot great that first time that these two teams played,

1307
01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:57,680
Speaker 7: but that has been kind of the common theme and

1308
01:09:57,720 --> 01:10:01,080
Speaker 7: the losses and then from there, you know, I think

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Speaker 7: produced fine. The team is still an offensive juggernaut, but

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Speaker 7: the defense was the question going into the year, and

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Speaker 7: I think as we get now to the stretch at

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Speaker 7: the end of the season here, that remains, you know,

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Speaker 7: kind of a common thing that's that's questioned.

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Speaker 1: Sam King is my guest. We're talking about Purdue in

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Speaker 1: Indiana tonight. Is there any sort of a chemistry issue

1316
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Speaker 1: with Purdue or has there been?

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Speaker 3: There?

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Speaker 7: Certainly has and players were openly talking about how the

1319
01:10:28,479 --> 01:10:33,200
Speaker 7: communication wasn't there, namely on the defensive end, and I

1320
01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:35,600
Speaker 7: think pretty much shored that up quite a bit. The

1321
01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:39,080
Speaker 7: defense has gotten better. Michigan makes a lot of teams

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Speaker 7: look bad. I kind of tossed that game out and

1323
01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:43,760
Speaker 7: in terms of saying, like, Purdue has some issues, but

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Speaker 7: you did see it in that Indiana game, for example,

1325
01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:49,559
Speaker 7: there was not the connectiveness on the defensive end. They

1326
01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:51,760
Speaker 7: lost guys, you know, call a time out and say

1327
01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:54,639
Speaker 7: this guy can't get open. Connorin writes wide open coming

1328
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:57,280
Speaker 7: out of the timeouts, and painters like, we just talked

1329
01:10:57,280 --> 01:11:00,439
Speaker 7: about this. How does this happen? But you know, I

1330
01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:04,080
Speaker 7: think that overall the team chemistry is very good, but

1331
01:11:04,160 --> 01:11:08,320
Speaker 7: there's definitely been lapses in some games where the the

1332
01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:09,960
Speaker 7: communication on the court wasn't there.

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Speaker 1: But these guys have played together for a long time.

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Speaker 1: They know each other well. So where does that I

1335
01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:21,960
Speaker 1: guess that breakdown of communication, you know, from, what does

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01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:24,120
Speaker 1: that stem?

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Speaker 7: It's tough to say, and you know they've played together

1338
01:11:27,320 --> 01:11:29,320
Speaker 7: for a long time. But Trey Kaufman Renn has played

1339
01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:32,559
Speaker 7: multiple roles over the course of three years. Fletcher Lawyer's

1340
01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:35,679
Speaker 7: played both the two and the three. Briden Smith played

1341
01:11:36,439 --> 01:11:37,960
Speaker 7: kind of out of position, I want to say out

1342
01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:40,679
Speaker 7: of position. But Perdu has more depth than it's had

1343
01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:43,320
Speaker 7: in the past, which allows him to not be the

1344
01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:46,519
Speaker 7: point guard. He can play, you know, he's not guarding

1345
01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:48,720
Speaker 7: the point guard on the other team for example sometimes

1346
01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:52,160
Speaker 7: and produced just rotating a lot. They're they're living in

1347
01:11:52,200 --> 01:11:54,760
Speaker 7: help at times, which you can't do and be a

1348
01:11:54,760 --> 01:11:57,719
Speaker 7: good defensive team. And when you do that and you're shouting,

1349
01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:02,080
Speaker 7: especially in road environments, and sometimes you just don't hear things.

1350
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Speaker 7: And I think that Perdue's got its basic defensive principles

1351
01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:09,080
Speaker 7: that it sticks to, but when things break down, that's

1352
01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:12,920
Speaker 7: where the communication kind of goes haywire. And you know,

1353
01:12:13,160 --> 01:12:16,280
Speaker 7: we've seen teams capitalized. We saw Keaton Wagler score forty

1354
01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:19,400
Speaker 7: six points because of it. We've seen, you know, UCLA

1355
01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:23,519
Speaker 7: make a comeback. Obviously, Michigan just kind of took advantage

1356
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Speaker 7: of Purdue and being late in rotations and things like

1357
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:29,160
Speaker 7: that the other night. So I don't know. I think

1358
01:12:29,160 --> 01:12:30,760
Speaker 7: it's a thing that if Purdue wants to make a

1359
01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:33,479
Speaker 7: deep run, it has to be better talking and getting

1360
01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:34,920
Speaker 7: out on players on the perimeter.

1361
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Speaker 1: You know, Sam, when you look at and it is

1362
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:45,520
Speaker 1: a credit to produce sustained high level that we're nitpicking

1363
01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:48,719
Speaker 1: stuff about a team that is still going to be

1364
01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:52,639
Speaker 1: what would you say, is the unless the bottom totally

1365
01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:57,000
Speaker 1: falls out, Purdue is probably at worst, what would you say,

1366
01:12:57,040 --> 01:12:57,759
Speaker 1: a three seed?

1367
01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:02,599
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean it's laughable to me. And I said

1368
01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:05,639
Speaker 7: this to Braden Smith after the game at Nebraska. I said,

1369
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Speaker 7: at the time, I think Pretty was nineteen and four

1370
01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:09,639
Speaker 7: or twenty and four, so that's a pretty good team.

1371
01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:11,599
Speaker 7: And he's like, yeah, it's pretty good. But I think

1372
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Speaker 7: the expectations were just placed so high by players within

1373
01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:18,080
Speaker 7: the program, by fans that if this team didn't win

1374
01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:20,679
Speaker 7: a national championship, it was a failure. And that's that's

1375
01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:23,240
Speaker 7: unreasonable to put on any team. I don't care if

1376
01:13:23,240 --> 01:13:25,559
Speaker 7: you are the best team in the country, because it's

1377
01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:29,880
Speaker 7: such a random tournament. To win a championship in that,

1378
01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:33,120
Speaker 7: you know, just a few loss of them, people seem

1379
01:13:33,160 --> 01:13:35,360
Speaker 7: to think, oh, you know, this team isn't what we thought.

1380
01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:38,240
Speaker 7: Being twenty one and five is nothing to say, Man,

1381
01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:41,080
Speaker 7: this team isn't any good. I think this team is fine.

1382
01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:43,600
Speaker 7: You're going to see a team that kind of refocuses

1383
01:13:43,640 --> 01:13:46,160
Speaker 7: now it isn't going to win the Big ten. But

1384
01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:48,960
Speaker 7: I think the goal all along for this team was

1385
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:52,679
Speaker 7: really what cannot win six games in the NCAA tournament

1386
01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:55,960
Speaker 7: and that will kind of determine the legacy of these guys.

1387
01:13:56,360 --> 01:13:59,800
Speaker 7: And just like last year, people were doubting Perdue going

1388
01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:02,559
Speaker 7: in the the NCAA Tournament and Pretty played its best

1389
01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:04,679
Speaker 7: ball come that time of the year.

1390
01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:10,919
Speaker 1: What is the I guess the the mark that Purdue

1391
01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:15,200
Speaker 1: needs to hit for this year to not be considered,

1392
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:19,200
Speaker 1: you know, a total failure. They need to get how

1393
01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:20,559
Speaker 1: far into the tournament?

1394
01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:25,559
Speaker 7: And I think, well, you've got to get to the

1395
01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:28,559
Speaker 7: second weekend first of all, because you're going to be,

1396
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:31,000
Speaker 7: like you said, the lowest is a three feed. Most

1397
01:14:31,080 --> 01:14:34,400
Speaker 7: likely that should get you as a favorite.

1398
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Speaker 3: To the sweet sixteen.

1399
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Speaker 7: And then you know a lot of times, when you

1400
01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:39,599
Speaker 7: get there, you're playing good teams from then on out

1401
01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:43,599
Speaker 7: and it's kind of a crap shoot. But I believe

1402
01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:46,160
Speaker 7: because of what Purdue did two years ago, that raised

1403
01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:48,760
Speaker 7: the bar a little bit to where even get into

1404
01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:51,160
Speaker 7: a Final four, which would be an accomplishment. I think

1405
01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:53,920
Speaker 7: that would be something that over time a lot of

1406
01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:57,720
Speaker 7: fans would appreciate. Fans are hungry, and part of that

1407
01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:02,120
Speaker 7: is because the IU football sixs us and just you know,

1408
01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:04,559
Speaker 7: I don't know if it's jealousy or what, but Purdue

1409
01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:06,840
Speaker 7: fans are desperate for a national championship. But I think,

1410
01:15:07,080 --> 01:15:10,120
Speaker 7: you know, getting to an Elite eight, that's a solid season.

1411
01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:12,800
Speaker 7: I don't think that Purdue fans or players would be

1412
01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:15,880
Speaker 7: happy with that, but personally, I think that would be

1413
01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:18,360
Speaker 7: a great year, but I think it's kind of in

1414
01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:21,479
Speaker 7: fans eyes. You know, at least getting to a Final

1415
01:15:21,479 --> 01:15:24,759
Speaker 7: four would would be what would suffice.

1416
01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:28,439
Speaker 1: You know, the And again, Sam and I apologize to

1417
01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:30,599
Speaker 1: Purdue fans to an extent of this because it sounds

1418
01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:34,240
Speaker 1: like we're sitting here having this powout of what in

1419
01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:36,880
Speaker 1: the world is wrong with Purdue And to the point,

1420
01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:39,920
Speaker 1: I mean, this is an elite level team. I just

1421
01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:43,439
Speaker 1: think that. And part of it may be this when

1422
01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:46,120
Speaker 1: you look at you know, Purdue is a veteran team.

1423
01:15:46,120 --> 01:15:48,639
Speaker 1: They're an experienced team. They know what the heck they're doing.

1424
01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:53,600
Speaker 1: But one of the areas that Michigan improved itself, what

1425
01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:58,120
Speaker 1: are the areas that Illinois improved itself? And one of

1426
01:15:58,160 --> 01:16:01,360
Speaker 1: the areas truthfully, that Indiana probably improved itself as they

1427
01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:04,599
Speaker 1: got older, they got more mature, and they got players that, yes,

1428
01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:07,120
Speaker 1: they may not have been playing together in ann Arbor

1429
01:16:07,160 --> 01:16:10,799
Speaker 1: and in Champagne or in Bloomington, respectively, but they're guys

1430
01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:13,640
Speaker 1: that have played a ton of college games and so

1431
01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:16,800
Speaker 1: therefore not only that, but produce played a ton of

1432
01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:18,760
Speaker 1: college games together. And the tape is kind of out

1433
01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:21,959
Speaker 1: there for coaches to scrutinize on them, and so therefore

1434
01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:26,200
Speaker 1: the gap was closed or even surpassed. Does that make sense.

1435
01:16:27,320 --> 01:16:29,960
Speaker 7: I've actually never thought of it that way. That's somewhat

1436
01:16:30,200 --> 01:16:32,880
Speaker 7: a good point because, like you said, Purdue doesn't take

1437
01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:36,320
Speaker 7: a lot of transfers. Oscar Cluff is a transfer in

1438
01:16:36,360 --> 01:16:39,680
Speaker 7: the starting lineup, but other than that, Liam Murphy transferred in,

1439
01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:45,200
Speaker 7: but he's barely playing. Jack benter A was redshirted last

1440
01:16:45,280 --> 01:16:48,280
Speaker 7: year and he's in the rotation. But yeah, the rest

1441
01:16:48,320 --> 01:16:50,160
Speaker 7: of it, there's tape on these guys, and tape on

1442
01:16:50,200 --> 01:16:53,040
Speaker 7: these guys playing a lot of minutes together. So you know,

1443
01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:55,360
Speaker 7: that's that's kind of an excellent point. So thanks for

1444
01:16:55,439 --> 01:16:57,439
Speaker 7: bringing that to my attention. That might be something that

1445
01:16:58,479 --> 01:17:00,840
Speaker 7: I use as a question for Matt Painter or moving forward.

1446
01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:07,439
Speaker 7: But again, like Purdue looks offensively excellent in the second half,

1447
01:17:07,479 --> 01:17:12,519
Speaker 7: specifically against Michigan. I think the team offensively like they're fine.

1448
01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:16,080
Speaker 7: It's just going to come down to can you keep

1449
01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:18,479
Speaker 7: a team from outscoring you, because perdu is going to

1450
01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:21,160
Speaker 7: be a team that plays in the eighties most nights

1451
01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:23,000
Speaker 7: with its offensive efficiency.

1452
01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:24,800
Speaker 1: By the way, Eddie, do you happen to have the

1453
01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:32,840
Speaker 1: breaking news sounder. This is just Sam King of the

1454
01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:35,280
Speaker 1: Lafayette Journal and Courier says that I made a good

1455
01:17:35,280 --> 01:17:38,200
Speaker 1: point first time. I've been doing the show for what

1456
01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:38,680
Speaker 1: three years?

1457
01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:39,000
Speaker 6: Eddie?

1458
01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:41,720
Speaker 1: Is that right? Two and a half many first good

1459
01:17:41,720 --> 01:17:44,639
Speaker 1: point I've ever made, Sam, So, and I'm being serious.

1460
01:17:44,680 --> 01:17:48,400
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. I appreciate you pointing, you illuminating that

1461
01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:50,200
Speaker 1: because I don't make very many of them. You know

1462
01:17:50,240 --> 01:17:50,639
Speaker 1: what I mean?

1463
01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:54,000
Speaker 7: Well, you know blind squirrel finds an every once in.

1464
01:17:54,000 --> 01:18:00,639
Speaker 1: A while, So that's exactly correct. That's exactly correct. Okay, Sam,

1465
01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:02,599
Speaker 1: I'm going to ask you the same question I asked

1466
01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:05,280
Speaker 1: Zach Osterman from the Indianapolis Start from the IU side

1467
01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:10,080
Speaker 1: of things, that is tonight's game. You are going to

1468
01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:12,920
Speaker 1: be looking for what early in this game or there's

1469
01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:15,360
Speaker 1: going to be what would happen? That is going to

1470
01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:17,559
Speaker 1: be the thing that you say, That's what I was

1471
01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:19,439
Speaker 1: looking for, and that's going to tell me how this

1472
01:18:19,560 --> 01:18:22,320
Speaker 1: game is going to go. That will be what early.

1473
01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:26,000
Speaker 7: Uh, Perdue's got to keep Indiana from getting hot from

1474
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:29,360
Speaker 7: three and obviously that is easier said than done. We've

1475
01:18:29,360 --> 01:18:31,760
Speaker 7: seen the usures do it quite a bit this year.

1476
01:18:31,800 --> 01:18:34,240
Speaker 7: But we've seen what happens when the team is not

1477
01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:37,880
Speaker 7: hitting shots from the outside. Also, so I think if

1478
01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:40,080
Speaker 7: Purdue can get out to a big lead, get this

1479
01:18:40,160 --> 01:18:42,799
Speaker 7: crowd into it, you might be able to take Indiana

1480
01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:45,639
Speaker 7: right out of the game. But if Indiana comes out

1481
01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:48,240
Speaker 7: and you know, hits a few early and gets some

1482
01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:51,439
Speaker 7: momentum and quite that crowd, that can make this down

1483
01:18:51,520 --> 01:18:52,719
Speaker 7: to the wire game again.

1484
01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:55,880
Speaker 1: Eight o'clock tonight, Mac, you Arena, Sam. Appreciate the time

1485
01:18:55,880 --> 01:18:59,360
Speaker 1: as always, Man, thanks for having me on. Appreciate it.

1486
01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:02,719
Speaker 1: There's a lot going on within the Olympics, by the way,

1487
01:19:02,840 --> 01:19:04,720
Speaker 1: to get you caught up on. We will let you

1488
01:19:04,760 --> 01:19:07,240
Speaker 1: know about that. On the other side. And there is

1489
01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:09,320
Speaker 1: an interesting point. A little bit of what I just

1490
01:19:09,439 --> 01:19:13,360
Speaker 1: mentioned comes from a very interesting perspective from another friend

1491
01:19:13,400 --> 01:19:14,840
Speaker 1: of the show. We'll get to that as well. On

1492
01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:17,840
Speaker 1: the other side. And still yet to come on the

1493
01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:20,160
Speaker 1: big program, Kevin Bowen coming up. Top of the hour.

1494
01:19:20,439 --> 01:19:23,040
Speaker 1: Good for the hard Friday. Bottom of the two o'clock hour.

1495
01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:27,120
Speaker 1: A querying company on the fan. Okay, a couple of

1496
01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:32,040
Speaker 1: news and notes items. We'll get to the Olympics in

1497
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Speaker 1: a second. There was one incident that just took place

1498
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Speaker 1: and I realize sometimes it's hard, Eddie, and you correct

1499
01:19:37,160 --> 01:19:42,360
Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong. I think what I'm watching is live, right.

1500
01:19:42,439 --> 01:19:44,360
Speaker 1: I guess it does say live there, but sometimes it's

1501
01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:46,280
Speaker 1: hard to know, especially tonight when you watch like it

1502
01:19:46,439 --> 01:19:50,719
Speaker 1: some of this may be shown later, So I'm always

1503
01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:53,840
Speaker 1: hesitant to say results of something if it's what's going

1504
01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:58,240
Speaker 1: to air tonight, right, But it's already airing live today,

1505
01:19:58,439 --> 01:20:03,599
Speaker 1: so it's not like it's being embargoed until later tonight.

1506
01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:03,920
Speaker 2: Right.

1507
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:06,840
Speaker 1: Having said that, I'll get you up to speed on

1508
01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:09,840
Speaker 1: a couple of things. But let's begin with the Pacers

1509
01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:12,000
Speaker 1: injury report for tonight.

1510
01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:12,240
Speaker 2: Eddie.

1511
01:20:12,280 --> 01:20:14,000
Speaker 1: We're gonna do this in trivia form, as we do

1512
01:20:14,040 --> 01:20:14,680
Speaker 1: from time to time.

1513
01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:16,559
Speaker 2: We always can't pay fun, Okay, I.

1514
01:20:16,479 --> 01:20:19,080
Speaker 1: Would like for you to tell me, aside from the obvious,

1515
01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:22,960
Speaker 1: which would be Tyre's Halliburton and Obi Toppin, tell me

1516
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:25,040
Speaker 1: the number of players that would be listed as out

1517
01:20:25,160 --> 01:20:28,160
Speaker 1: for tonight's game with the Wizards seven o'clock tip six

1518
01:20:28,240 --> 01:20:29,439
Speaker 1: thirty pre game on this station.

1519
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:33,120
Speaker 2: So outside of the obvious, are we including Johnny Furfee,

1520
01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:36,000
Speaker 2: Vis subots In, Pascal Siakam Because we already knew that

1521
01:20:36,160 --> 01:20:37,120
Speaker 2: going into.

1522
01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:39,320
Speaker 1: We didn't know that about Siakam. We assumed it didn't

1523
01:20:39,320 --> 01:20:42,719
Speaker 1: know it. Uh So Siakam obviously is out. Yeah, okay,

1524
01:20:43,360 --> 01:20:46,000
Speaker 1: are there any others than yes, Furfey obviously with the foot.

1525
01:20:46,240 --> 01:20:49,160
Speaker 1: You know Furfy's gonna be the knee. Excuse me, it's

1526
01:20:49,160 --> 01:20:51,200
Speaker 1: gonna be out for the year, Zubots. We simply know

1527
01:20:51,280 --> 01:20:54,840
Speaker 1: it's going to be time. He's got the ankle, et cetera.

1528
01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:58,120
Speaker 1: And then we obviously know about Topping and how and

1529
01:20:58,439 --> 01:21:03,920
Speaker 1: Tyres Halliburton. So how many other players one player is out?

1530
01:21:04,479 --> 01:21:06,559
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say that player out. We can do the

1531
01:21:06,680 --> 01:21:08,040
Speaker 1: ding buzz rule here.

1532
01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:11,400
Speaker 4: Uh.

1533
01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:13,960
Speaker 1: I will say that t J McConnell is out tonight.

1534
01:21:15,439 --> 01:21:15,799
Speaker 3: Okay.

1535
01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:19,960
Speaker 2: So TJ McConnell is plague. We don't know if he's

1536
01:21:19,960 --> 01:21:23,880
Speaker 2: out or if he's playing, so he's questionable. So then

1537
01:21:24,040 --> 01:21:24,519
Speaker 2: that'd be.

1538
01:21:26,680 --> 01:21:29,400
Speaker 1: He's questionable, right, yes, Okay, So that do we go

1539
01:21:29,439 --> 01:21:34,320
Speaker 1: crickets are questionable? Yeah, we could do that. Okay, So

1540
01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:35,719
Speaker 1: how many are listed as questionable?

1541
01:21:35,720 --> 01:21:38,400
Speaker 2: Then three total? You've already got one with McConnell.

1542
01:21:38,640 --> 01:21:45,839
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna say that Aaron Nesmith is questionable. Okay,

1543
01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:53,040
Speaker 1: I will say that Andrew nimhart is out.

1544
01:21:53,920 --> 01:21:55,240
Speaker 2: Okay, go ahead and hit me with the rest of

1545
01:21:55,439 --> 01:21:57,960
Speaker 2: the player that is out is Aaron Smith with Aaron

1546
01:21:58,200 --> 01:22:02,040
Speaker 2: Smith with a right ankle spring, Andrew im Hardy's doubtful

1547
01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:08,280
Speaker 2: lower back injury management, Micah Potter questionable left ankle spring,

1548
01:22:08,840 --> 01:22:15,720
Speaker 2: Cam Jones questionable lower back soreness, McConnell questionable right hamstring soreness.

1549
01:22:16,479 --> 01:22:23,680
Speaker 1: So again, take for that what you will. Right in

1550
01:22:23,800 --> 01:22:27,719
Speaker 1: the Olympics, Nick Gepper, I believe this is taking place

1551
01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:33,640
Speaker 1: right now. If you are wanting to watch the Olympics

1552
01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:36,960
Speaker 1: tonight and you are bypassing the Indiana Purdue game, I

1553
01:22:37,000 --> 01:22:40,240
Speaker 1: hate to say, don't don't turn your radio away, but

1554
01:22:40,320 --> 01:22:42,160
Speaker 1: I guess turn it down. I'm not giving any like

1555
01:22:42,360 --> 01:22:45,800
Speaker 1: big time stuff here. But two things of note. First off,

1556
01:22:46,240 --> 01:22:50,800
Speaker 1: it is insane to watch freestyle skiing, which basically is

1557
01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:55,759
Speaker 1: like a halfpipe but on skis, and I do feel

1558
01:22:55,760 --> 01:23:00,360
Speaker 1: bad for and I know that people are going to,

1559
01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:08,040
Speaker 1: you know, give me grief here. Okay, But and Nick

1560
01:23:08,120 --> 01:23:12,200
Speaker 1: Gepper is performing right now. He had qualified for the

1561
01:23:12,200 --> 01:23:18,360
Speaker 1: finals here in his event today and he is going

1562
01:23:18,439 --> 01:23:21,800
Speaker 1: right now. He is the lone Indiana representative in the

1563
01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:25,839
Speaker 1: Winter Olympics. In Milan. A Hunter Hess is the athlete

1564
01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:30,559
Speaker 1: in I believe freestyle skiing that kind of put the

1565
01:23:30,600 --> 01:23:33,840
Speaker 1: microscope on himself when he was asked. He didn't volunteer it,

1566
01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:39,439
Speaker 1: but he was asked questions in the press conference when

1567
01:23:39,439 --> 01:23:43,360
Speaker 1: all of the athletes arrived. They got a little bit political.

1568
01:23:44,320 --> 01:23:49,280
Speaker 1: There was response to it from very high places, and therefore,

1569
01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:51,599
Speaker 1: you know, there was a lot of pressure on him,

1570
01:23:52,600 --> 01:23:58,120
Speaker 1: and he did earlier today in his performance and this

1571
01:23:58,240 --> 01:24:00,160
Speaker 1: is not unique to him. I will say that in

1572
01:24:00,200 --> 01:24:02,160
Speaker 1: the freestyle skiing thing where you're going up and you're

1573
01:24:02,200 --> 01:24:05,479
Speaker 1: doing tricks in the air and then landing, he did

1574
01:24:05,520 --> 01:24:07,519
Speaker 1: have a I don't know what you would call it

1575
01:24:07,880 --> 01:24:11,280
Speaker 1: a wipeout, I guess, but like every third skier does it.

1576
01:24:12,240 --> 01:24:20,640
Speaker 1: It's remarkable. Eddie, I think this would be the freestyle

1577
01:24:20,920 --> 01:24:23,040
Speaker 1: skiing when you're on skis. It's one thing to be

1578
01:24:23,080 --> 01:24:25,519
Speaker 1: on a snowboard going up, but when you've got two

1579
01:24:25,560 --> 01:24:28,760
Speaker 1: skis and you're going high in the air and twirling

1580
01:24:28,840 --> 01:24:33,639
Speaker 1: and doing all of the aero dynamic gymnastics if you will,

1581
01:24:33,880 --> 01:24:35,280
Speaker 1: and then you got to land on two skis and

1582
01:24:35,320 --> 01:24:39,559
Speaker 1: go right back down again. I mean, how long would

1583
01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:43,000
Speaker 1: it take you to learn how to do that a

1584
01:24:43,040 --> 01:24:50,120
Speaker 1: long time, would you ever? I mean, I.

1585
01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:53,679
Speaker 2: Think in order for me to learn it, I'd probably

1586
01:24:53,720 --> 01:24:55,960
Speaker 2: have to you know, obviously be out there and doing it,

1587
01:24:56,000 --> 01:24:58,680
Speaker 2: but I'd have to like fall or suffer or you know,

1588
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:00,800
Speaker 2: keep falling down hers.

1589
01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:03,479
Speaker 1: I don't know how, like all right, well, I gotta.

1590
01:25:03,280 --> 01:25:05,000
Speaker 2: Figure this out because I'm tired of falling and I

1591
01:25:05,080 --> 01:25:05,840
Speaker 2: don't know how.

1592
01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:08,680
Speaker 1: Do you imagine? Can you imagine how strong? And I

1593
01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:11,360
Speaker 1: know that the boots are set up in certain ways,

1594
01:25:12,720 --> 01:25:15,960
Speaker 1: but the overall ankle and ligament strength you would have

1595
01:25:16,040 --> 01:25:22,120
Speaker 1: to have to withstand the constantly just the way you're

1596
01:25:22,200 --> 01:25:26,320
Speaker 1: landing and contorting all of it is amazing. It's amazing,

1597
01:25:26,960 --> 01:25:32,120
Speaker 1: and you know you can certainly the half pipe right now,

1598
01:25:32,240 --> 01:25:37,200
Speaker 1: the freestyle skiing halfpipe is what is live right now,

1599
01:25:37,240 --> 01:25:40,320
Speaker 1: and Nick Gepper is out there. He had qualified this

1600
01:25:40,360 --> 01:25:44,760
Speaker 1: as the final eleven and Nick Gepper of Indiana is

1601
01:25:44,880 --> 01:25:47,640
Speaker 1: in that competition that's taking place right now now. On

1602
01:25:47,720 --> 01:25:53,720
Speaker 1: the hockey side, women won gold. Awesome. The men in

1603
01:25:53,960 --> 01:25:55,920
Speaker 1: hockey are was fantastic.

1604
01:25:56,160 --> 01:25:59,200
Speaker 2: Yesterday that gold medal match, well, I say against Canada

1605
01:25:59,320 --> 01:25:59,839
Speaker 2: was awesome.

1606
01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:02,960
Speaker 1: And there is the possibility that USA and Canada will

1607
01:26:03,000 --> 01:26:05,920
Speaker 1: be the men's gold medal match. That's because there is

1608
01:26:05,960 --> 01:26:08,960
Speaker 1: still an obstacle to go for the United States. They

1609
01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:13,160
Speaker 1: face Slovakia. The Canadians have advanced to the gold medal

1610
01:26:13,640 --> 01:26:17,000
Speaker 1: they earlier defeated Finland and so they are in the

1611
01:26:17,000 --> 01:26:20,960
Speaker 1: gold medal game. They will await now and see whether

1612
01:26:21,040 --> 01:26:23,160
Speaker 1: or not it is the United States that they're play.

1613
01:26:23,280 --> 01:26:25,880
Speaker 1: I'm looking out out the window here. J and V's

1614
01:26:25,920 --> 01:26:26,719
Speaker 1: out hugging people.

1615
01:26:27,080 --> 01:26:27,559
Speaker 2: Interesting.

1616
01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:31,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, you want to talk chemistry and camaraderie. One of

1617
01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:34,360
Speaker 1: our friends, that's the anchor for the Telemundo station. He

1618
01:26:34,400 --> 01:26:38,400
Speaker 1: and JV out hugging out there. Oh yes, hard guy huh.

1619
01:26:38,680 --> 01:26:41,320
Speaker 1: I forget his name, but he's a great guy. Oh yeah.

1620
01:26:41,720 --> 01:26:45,000
Speaker 1: Canada had to come back against the Finns. They're down

1621
01:26:45,040 --> 01:26:49,040
Speaker 1: to nothing the tight end third period. Then they took

1622
01:26:49,160 --> 01:26:51,280
Speaker 1: Jimmy Buffett, a team of a fan of the team.

1623
01:26:51,280 --> 01:26:53,720
Speaker 1: They're playing real fins to the left and fins to

1624
01:26:53,720 --> 01:26:55,680
Speaker 1: the right. I mean, they're all over the place. So

1625
01:26:55,800 --> 01:26:57,840
Speaker 1: Canada had to come back to win that game.

1626
01:26:57,880 --> 01:26:59,240
Speaker 2: Is that right? Yeah, they were down to nil.

1627
01:27:01,880 --> 01:27:07,000
Speaker 1: It would be I'm telling you, obviously, we know Canada

1628
01:27:07,120 --> 01:27:09,160
Speaker 1: is going to be there if it's Canada and the

1629
01:27:09,240 --> 01:27:13,280
Speaker 1: United States. What was that hockey tournament that took place.

1630
01:27:13,080 --> 01:27:15,599
Speaker 2: The four nations face off that ultimately led to the

1631
01:27:15,680 --> 01:27:19,479
Speaker 2: NBA changing their form to the Star Stripes and Team World,

1632
01:27:19,520 --> 01:27:22,880
Speaker 2: which because that thing was I think that worked out

1633
01:27:22,920 --> 01:27:25,960
Speaker 2: pretty well. Now they just need to figure something out

1634
01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:28,080
Speaker 2: to where a team's not playing a game and then

1635
01:27:28,560 --> 01:27:32,080
Speaker 2: they're in that championship that quote unquote championship game right

1636
01:27:32,120 --> 01:27:36,880
Speaker 2: after it. They would never do this, but they should

1637
01:27:36,880 --> 01:27:39,320
Speaker 2: make it just all one big event, have one game

1638
01:27:39,439 --> 01:27:42,599
Speaker 2: they do like the three point contest, next game, dunk

1639
01:27:42,640 --> 01:27:45,320
Speaker 2: contest or skills or whatever. The third element of All

1640
01:27:45,320 --> 01:27:46,320
Speaker 2: Star Weekend is.

1641
01:27:46,280 --> 01:27:50,760
Speaker 1: Any I just feel like the All Star Weekend this

1642
01:27:50,960 --> 01:27:54,720
Speaker 1: year and it came. Maybe it's been a slow the

1643
01:27:54,760 --> 01:27:58,080
Speaker 1: airs slowly gone out of the balloon, but the dunk

1644
01:27:58,080 --> 01:28:03,320
Speaker 1: contest in general points you out to an extent. It

1645
01:28:03,439 --> 01:28:06,799
Speaker 1: was not in any way on the American sports calendar.

1646
01:28:07,640 --> 01:28:09,599
Speaker 1: I think most people are like, oh, that was this weekend,

1647
01:28:10,520 --> 01:28:13,680
Speaker 1: whereas it used to be major appointment viewing. And I

1648
01:28:13,720 --> 01:28:17,720
Speaker 1: love the NBA, but that's one that I just I

1649
01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:20,400
Speaker 1: think part of it too is there are so many young,

1650
01:28:21,120 --> 01:28:23,519
Speaker 1: very good don't get me wrong. But there are so

1651
01:28:23,600 --> 01:28:27,920
Speaker 1: many players that in the NBA because of the one

1652
01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:31,080
Speaker 1: and done aspect of it, that even when they are

1653
01:28:31,120 --> 01:28:33,760
Speaker 1: young players in the league, you don't know about them

1654
01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:35,840
Speaker 1: because you didn't watch them for four years and in

1655
01:28:35,840 --> 01:28:39,760
Speaker 1: two final fours and in epic matchups throughout March Madness

1656
01:28:39,800 --> 01:28:41,840
Speaker 1: for the last four years, and you're just not as

1657
01:28:41,840 --> 01:28:47,000
Speaker 1: familiar with them. Gepper, by the way, is in seventh

1658
01:28:47,560 --> 01:28:50,439
Speaker 1: after the first round of the men's halfpipe, the loan

1659
01:28:50,560 --> 01:28:53,840
Speaker 1: who's your representative? In seventh in the men's half pipe

1660
01:28:53,880 --> 01:28:58,240
Speaker 1: standings after round number one, Kevin Bowen joins us. Top

1661
01:28:58,280 --> 01:29:01,519
Speaker 1: of the hour, we will go over include it literally

1662
01:29:01,760 --> 01:29:05,160
Speaker 1: is his favorite time of the year. Christmas has a

1663
01:29:05,280 --> 01:29:10,240
Speaker 1: ride for Kevin Bowen. We'll explain next a Friday. Indeed,

1664
01:29:11,720 --> 01:29:13,559
Speaker 1: it's hard to believe, by the way, when the do

1665
01:29:13,640 --> 01:29:16,800
Speaker 1: the Olympics close on Sunday? Is that right? Sunday evening

1666
01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:17,760
Speaker 1: closing ceremonies?

1667
01:29:18,360 --> 01:29:19,719
Speaker 2: Is it this week or next week?

1668
01:29:19,840 --> 01:29:24,800
Speaker 1: I think it's this, isn't it? Because the the hockey finals.

1669
01:29:24,840 --> 01:29:28,719
Speaker 1: I believe the men's hockey game would be the last event.

1670
01:29:29,439 --> 01:29:31,439
Speaker 1: And I saw people like this is ridiculous. They should

1671
01:29:31,439 --> 01:29:33,800
Speaker 1: have planned it for primetime and I'm like, yeah, man,

1672
01:29:33,960 --> 01:29:36,679
Speaker 1: like it's in a six hour time difference.

1673
01:29:36,760 --> 01:29:38,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, They end on the twenty second.

1674
01:29:38,640 --> 01:29:44,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. So things are winding down, and that includes the

1675
01:29:44,120 --> 01:29:46,920
Speaker 1: men's halfpipe final that is taking place right now. Nick

1676
01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:52,680
Speaker 1: Gapper of the Lawrenceburg area of Indiana is in that

1677
01:29:52,840 --> 01:29:57,679
Speaker 1: right now and is participating speed skating was earlier today

1678
01:29:57,760 --> 01:30:00,720
Speaker 1: that is still upcoming for men later. I realize a

1679
01:30:00,720 --> 01:30:04,040
Speaker 1: lot of this probably will air tonight on television, men's

1680
01:30:04,080 --> 01:30:07,920
Speaker 1: curling taking place the bronze medal game. What happened with

1681
01:30:07,960 --> 01:30:10,920
Speaker 1: that Canadian that was cussing people out?

1682
01:30:10,960 --> 01:30:11,320
Speaker 2: Do we know?

1683
01:30:11,439 --> 01:30:11,639
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1684
01:30:11,640 --> 01:30:14,040
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know if he got banned

1685
01:30:14,120 --> 01:30:14,320
Speaker 2: or what.

1686
01:30:14,400 --> 01:30:17,320
Speaker 1: He was pushing the stone right, yeah.

1687
01:30:17,120 --> 01:30:19,040
Speaker 2: He was illegally touching the stone.

1688
01:30:19,400 --> 01:30:21,639
Speaker 1: You can't do that past a certain point. And these

1689
01:30:21,680 --> 01:30:23,479
Speaker 1: curling people, let me tell you, they take it serious.

1690
01:30:23,520 --> 01:30:26,679
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know, I'll bet you Kevin Bowens curled

1691
01:30:26,880 --> 01:30:30,840
Speaker 1: the barbell. Probably he joins us now on the Java

1692
01:30:30,840 --> 01:30:33,559
Speaker 1: House Cold Brew Coffee guest line. Of course. You hear

1693
01:30:33,600 --> 01:30:35,840
Speaker 1: him on the Morning Show each and every morning at

1694
01:30:35,880 --> 01:30:39,000
Speaker 1: seven am, along with Jeff Rickin and James Boyd. Kevin,

1695
01:30:39,040 --> 01:30:41,719
Speaker 1: have you ever there is a curling club of Central

1696
01:30:41,720 --> 01:30:43,439
Speaker 1: Indiana that was kind enough to have me out a

1697
01:30:43,439 --> 01:30:45,400
Speaker 1: couple of years ago, and it really was fun. Have

1698
01:30:45,479 --> 01:30:46,320
Speaker 1: you ever curled?

1699
01:30:47,479 --> 01:30:52,519
Speaker 8: Wow, I'm jealous. No, I've never curled in my life.

1700
01:30:53,080 --> 01:30:54,320
Speaker 8: Where was his east Side?

1701
01:30:54,760 --> 01:30:58,320
Speaker 1: No, we actually went to and it was honestly, it

1702
01:30:58,360 --> 01:31:01,840
Speaker 1: was super cool. Went to the Colisseum and did it

1703
01:31:01,880 --> 01:31:06,960
Speaker 1: at the Colisseum and it was you know, I I

1704
01:31:08,240 --> 01:31:10,640
Speaker 1: the hardest part about it is when you you have

1705
01:31:10,680 --> 01:31:13,680
Speaker 1: to wear like a special kind of shoe. But I

1706
01:31:13,760 --> 01:31:16,440
Speaker 1: was really nervous. When you are the one that releases

1707
01:31:16,479 --> 01:31:18,200
Speaker 1: the stone, you have to kind of glide on the

1708
01:31:18,240 --> 01:31:20,160
Speaker 1: ice a little bit and that you kind of push

1709
01:31:20,240 --> 01:31:23,760
Speaker 1: off and that takes him getting used to and then

1710
01:31:23,840 --> 01:31:26,880
Speaker 1: once you release the stone. And I think most are

1711
01:31:26,920 --> 01:31:30,479
Speaker 1: aware of this now because curling has become kind of

1712
01:31:30,520 --> 01:31:33,680
Speaker 1: the sport that is known because everybody likes to make

1713
01:31:33,680 --> 01:31:36,439
Speaker 1: fun of its obscurity, and so therefore everybody knows about it.

1714
01:31:36,479 --> 01:31:41,519
Speaker 1: But you get the broom guy in gal and let

1715
01:31:41,520 --> 01:31:42,880
Speaker 1: me ask you this, Kevin, I'm going to put you

1716
01:31:42,880 --> 01:31:45,320
Speaker 1: on the spot. Do you know what exactly the job

1717
01:31:45,439 --> 01:31:48,120
Speaker 1: or strategy of the broom person is.

1718
01:31:50,240 --> 01:31:51,960
Speaker 5: To try and speed it up right.

1719
01:31:53,280 --> 01:31:57,439
Speaker 9: Correct or slow it down, directionally correct or curling.

1720
01:31:58,640 --> 01:32:00,960
Speaker 1: Look at Eddie, look at the big brain on Eddie

1721
01:32:01,000 --> 01:32:01,639
Speaker 1: to curl it.

1722
01:32:02,520 --> 01:32:04,720
Speaker 8: Now, I am curious about this. So you did it,

1723
01:32:04,800 --> 01:32:07,599
Speaker 8: you said at the coliseum. So just obviously whatever Indie

1724
01:32:07,640 --> 01:32:11,160
Speaker 8: Fuel's home rank there at the time. Do you are

1725
01:32:11,160 --> 01:32:15,600
Speaker 8: there any actual curling places in the city of Indianapolis,

1726
01:32:15,640 --> 01:32:17,800
Speaker 8: Like literally you knock on the door and you're like,

1727
01:32:18,400 --> 01:32:21,160
Speaker 8: welcome to our curling studio.

1728
01:32:21,400 --> 01:32:22,519
Speaker 2: I think there's one in Fisher's.

1729
01:32:22,960 --> 01:32:24,920
Speaker 1: I think it is in Fishers now, yes, the Circle

1730
01:32:24,960 --> 01:32:29,519
Speaker 1: City Curling Club. And now that I think about it,

1731
01:32:29,520 --> 01:32:31,760
Speaker 1: it might have been you know what, Kevin, I might

1732
01:32:31,760 --> 01:32:35,080
Speaker 1: have misspoken. We may have gone to the caramel Ice Skadium,

1733
01:32:35,479 --> 01:32:37,920
Speaker 1: but I'm pretty certain we were at the coliseum. It

1734
01:32:38,000 --> 01:32:42,000
Speaker 1: was like about five years ago. And I'm pretty sure

1735
01:32:42,000 --> 01:32:42,280
Speaker 1: we're the.

1736
01:32:42,240 --> 01:32:44,840
Speaker 5: Coin skating back in the day, the bow and the

1737
01:32:44,880 --> 01:32:45,559
Speaker 5: Bowen Brothers.

1738
01:32:45,760 --> 01:32:47,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean carmel Ice skating was a big deal

1739
01:32:47,800 --> 01:32:48,599
Speaker 1: there for a long time.

1740
01:32:48,680 --> 01:32:50,439
Speaker 2: Kevin, do you have the afternoon plans tomorrow?

1741
01:32:51,800 --> 01:32:52,240
Speaker 5: Afternoon?

1742
01:32:52,240 --> 01:32:54,759
Speaker 8: Plant wet like a huge Notre Dame game, Notre Dame Pittsburgh.

1743
01:32:54,800 --> 01:32:55,639
Speaker 5: Yeah, you got coming over?

1744
01:32:55,800 --> 01:32:56,760
Speaker 2: What time is that?

1745
01:32:57,479 --> 01:32:57,759
Speaker 8: Two.

1746
01:32:58,080 --> 01:33:00,240
Speaker 2: Oh never mind. I was going to say, well, at

1747
01:33:00,240 --> 01:33:03,080
Speaker 2: the Circle City Curling Club, they have a course for

1748
01:33:03,200 --> 01:33:07,800
Speaker 2: learn how to curl at noon tomorrow, Wow, noon until two.

1749
01:33:08,479 --> 01:33:10,439
Speaker 8: Can you imagine if I told Maddie, yeah, you got

1750
01:33:10,439 --> 01:33:12,040
Speaker 8: the kids for a couple hours.

1751
01:33:12,160 --> 01:33:13,760
Speaker 5: Here, I'm gonna go learn how to curl.

1752
01:33:13,760 --> 01:33:15,880
Speaker 1: By the way, better known as Quatro Sea. Right, the

1753
01:33:15,920 --> 01:33:17,040
Speaker 1: Circle City Curling Club.

1754
01:33:17,120 --> 01:33:17,599
Speaker 2: Isn't that right?

1755
01:33:18,840 --> 01:33:20,599
Speaker 1: Where is that Eddie taking place tomorrow?

1756
01:33:21,400 --> 01:33:22,639
Speaker 2: The Circle City Curling Club?

1757
01:33:22,680 --> 01:33:22,880
Speaker 3: I know?

1758
01:33:22,920 --> 01:33:25,479
Speaker 2: But where where is that located? Give me one second?

1759
01:33:25,479 --> 01:33:29,160
Speaker 1: Okay, the guy that does the broom or the gal

1760
01:33:30,160 --> 01:33:31,640
Speaker 1: you are creating, what's that?

1761
01:33:31,800 --> 01:33:36,240
Speaker 2: Anderson? Well, that's not Circle City I know? Right, that

1762
01:33:36,320 --> 01:33:36,800
Speaker 2: seems to.

1763
01:33:36,760 --> 01:33:41,439
Speaker 5: Be yes, Oh my god, training campus.

1764
01:33:41,720 --> 01:33:43,840
Speaker 1: Go is it at the Wigwam? Is that it? Are

1765
01:33:43,840 --> 01:33:45,759
Speaker 1: they using the did we find a use for the Wigwam?

1766
01:33:45,840 --> 01:33:48,240
Speaker 1: Or is it one of the nineteen I hot parking lots?

1767
01:33:49,560 --> 01:33:51,759
Speaker 8: It's got a ten thousand word feature coming on Monday.

1768
01:33:51,880 --> 01:33:52,360
Speaker 3: That's right.

1769
01:33:52,439 --> 01:33:57,839
Speaker 1: So you here's the thing. The broom person you are creating,

1770
01:33:57,920 --> 01:34:00,599
Speaker 1: you are doing one of two things. You're either smoothing

1771
01:34:00,760 --> 01:34:04,519
Speaker 1: off the ice for where the stone is about to go,

1772
01:34:04,600 --> 01:34:07,360
Speaker 1: to make sure that it goes faster, or if you're

1773
01:34:07,400 --> 01:34:09,160
Speaker 1: wanting to slow it down, you get in front of

1774
01:34:09,200 --> 01:34:12,479
Speaker 1: it and you create ice shavings to then block in

1775
01:34:12,520 --> 01:34:14,640
Speaker 1: front of the stone, so the stone has to go

1776
01:34:14,680 --> 01:34:17,120
Speaker 1: through that if you realize that the release point, it

1777
01:34:17,160 --> 01:34:20,040
Speaker 1: is going too fast from the beginning, so you're creating

1778
01:34:20,040 --> 01:34:23,040
Speaker 1: clean air or dirty air, basically, is what I'm getting at. Okay, Kevin,

1779
01:34:23,120 --> 01:34:25,040
Speaker 1: it is your favorite week of the year upcoming?

1780
01:34:25,960 --> 01:34:27,880
Speaker 5: Is this last two hundred or what?

1781
01:34:28,120 --> 01:34:28,280
Speaker 1: Now?

1782
01:34:28,320 --> 01:34:30,320
Speaker 8: I will say this before we move on, which I'm

1783
01:34:30,320 --> 01:34:33,760
Speaker 8: sure is the riveting radio yesterday when we beat the

1784
01:34:33,800 --> 01:34:36,960
Speaker 8: Swiss and Curly I forget the announcer's name, but when

1785
01:34:37,000 --> 01:34:40,600
Speaker 8: he said monumental throw here in the tenth end, and

1786
01:34:40,640 --> 01:34:42,639
Speaker 8: when he said I'm going to let the crowd tell

1787
01:34:42,680 --> 01:34:46,880
Speaker 8: you what happened, I mean you might as well said

1788
01:34:47,000 --> 01:34:49,879
Speaker 8: Tiger Woods is just getting to win a six Masters.

1789
01:34:50,120 --> 01:34:54,440
Speaker 8: I mean the electricity that went through my body was unparallel.

1790
01:34:54,720 --> 01:34:57,559
Speaker 1: Now, I think because there's a release point that you

1791
01:34:57,600 --> 01:35:00,040
Speaker 1: can't go over when you like a line, that you

1792
01:35:00,080 --> 01:35:02,599
Speaker 1: can't touch the stone past that release point. And if

1793
01:35:02,600 --> 01:35:05,800
Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, the Swiss get penalized a lot for

1794
01:35:05,880 --> 01:35:08,360
Speaker 1: oftentimes being in the neutral zone for too long. And

1795
01:35:08,400 --> 01:35:11,360
Speaker 1: that's the only thing I know about Switzerland and I

1796
01:35:11,360 --> 01:35:15,320
Speaker 1: can use that Joe for any Okay, So, Kevin, the

1797
01:35:15,439 --> 01:35:19,320
Speaker 1: combine upcoming, give us a lowdown here first off of

1798
01:35:19,520 --> 01:35:23,360
Speaker 1: just kind of the overall schedule of the NFL Combine

1799
01:35:23,439 --> 01:35:24,720
Speaker 1: and when it arrives.

1800
01:35:25,360 --> 01:35:28,959
Speaker 8: Yeah, I do think we're still waiting maybe official official schedule,

1801
01:35:29,080 --> 01:35:32,320
Speaker 8: but assuming it follows kind of what we've had in

1802
01:35:32,320 --> 01:35:35,080
Speaker 8: the past years. I think last year Ballard and Stike

1803
01:35:35,160 --> 01:35:38,160
Speaker 8: and talked on Tuesday. So I believe head coaches and GMG,

1804
01:35:38,360 --> 01:35:41,840
Speaker 8: you talk Tuesday or Wednesday next week. Prospects get to

1805
01:35:41,840 --> 01:35:44,880
Speaker 8: town then and then they work out on the final day.

1806
01:35:44,960 --> 01:35:47,600
Speaker 8: Basically they're here for four days, kind of on a

1807
01:35:47,640 --> 01:35:50,320
Speaker 8: four day sequence. They divide them up and I think

1808
01:35:50,320 --> 01:35:53,400
Speaker 8: it's three or four groups of players. Obviously went past

1809
01:35:53,439 --> 01:35:55,120
Speaker 8: catchers and quarterbacks to be here at the same time,

1810
01:35:55,160 --> 01:35:58,400
Speaker 8: et cetera, et cetera. So I think for Fernando Mendoza,

1811
01:35:58,439 --> 01:36:00,559
Speaker 8: for example, I want to say he met the media

1812
01:36:00,560 --> 01:36:05,200
Speaker 8: on Friday, and then quarterbacks I think throw Saturday. I

1813
01:36:05,200 --> 01:36:06,479
Speaker 8: think they want to have that as much in the

1814
01:36:06,520 --> 01:36:09,880
Speaker 8: primetime window. Obviously, Mendoza's already said he's not going to throw.

1815
01:36:09,960 --> 01:36:12,960
Speaker 8: But yeah, players will start to get to Indy coming

1816
01:36:13,040 --> 01:36:16,240
Speaker 8: up this weekend, and I know we'll be down there

1817
01:36:16,320 --> 01:36:18,720
Speaker 8: in some shows. So yeah, I think that covers kind

1818
01:36:18,720 --> 01:36:19,759
Speaker 8: of the basic schedule.

1819
01:36:20,280 --> 01:36:22,920
Speaker 1: I don't mean to undercut what it is that's going

1820
01:36:22,960 --> 01:36:26,080
Speaker 1: to be one of the primary points of discussion on

1821
01:36:26,160 --> 01:36:28,559
Speaker 1: this radio station for the next week. But I'm curious

1822
01:36:28,560 --> 01:36:32,519
Speaker 1: of this Kevin flip and se aside. Over the years

1823
01:36:32,560 --> 01:36:35,040
Speaker 1: and the course of time, and in particular as the

1824
01:36:35,080 --> 01:36:39,960
Speaker 1: combine has become more commercially advantageous for the league itself,

1825
01:36:40,920 --> 01:36:46,360
Speaker 1: has the scrutiny of a player's ability at the combine

1826
01:36:46,640 --> 01:36:51,080
Speaker 1: been devalued over the years. I understand the importance of

1827
01:36:51,120 --> 01:36:53,920
Speaker 1: the physical aspect of it, of you know, making sure

1828
01:36:53,920 --> 01:36:56,640
Speaker 1: that a player that had a shoulder injury or you

1829
01:36:56,640 --> 01:36:59,639
Speaker 1: know that had a knee question, all of the MRI,

1830
01:37:00,160 --> 01:37:02,200
Speaker 1: the things that a player goes to. I understand the

1831
01:37:02,240 --> 01:37:05,639
Speaker 1: importance of all of that. But have we seen less

1832
01:37:05,640 --> 01:37:10,799
Speaker 1: focus on the analysis of how well a guy moves, cuts, lifts,

1833
01:37:10,880 --> 01:37:12,800
Speaker 1: et cetera. When they are here.

1834
01:37:16,200 --> 01:37:19,880
Speaker 8: I don't know, Honestly, I think the analytics and sports

1835
01:37:20,160 --> 01:37:26,320
Speaker 8: have continued to I guess put those numbers more into limelight.

1836
01:37:26,560 --> 01:37:29,680
Speaker 8: There's more data. And again this sounds nerdy as can be,

1837
01:37:29,880 --> 01:37:32,519
Speaker 8: but okay, we have Jake Querry and he's six' four

1838
01:37:32,560 --> 01:37:34,639
Speaker 8: and he's two hundred and five, pounds and he runs

1839
01:37:34,680 --> 01:37:37,799
Speaker 8: four to six and he benches this and he jumps

1840
01:37:37,840 --> 01:37:38,680
Speaker 8: that and he does.

1841
01:37:38,720 --> 01:37:39,800
Speaker 5: It we put that in.

1842
01:37:39,920 --> 01:37:43,280
Speaker 8: Database we find the like minded profiles of him over

1843
01:37:43,320 --> 01:37:46,559
Speaker 8: the thirty some years of combined data we, have and

1844
01:37:46,640 --> 01:37:51,880
Speaker 8: that player hits at a x percentage. Standpoint and now

1845
01:37:52,000 --> 01:37:55,320
Speaker 8: that's one more data. Point SO i think the physical

1846
01:37:55,400 --> 01:37:57,639
Speaker 8: aspect of the common, granted you do HAVE i think

1847
01:37:57,840 --> 01:38:02,599
Speaker 8: more players opting out of specific and you, know agents are, saying,

1848
01:38:02,640 --> 01:38:03,200
Speaker 8: well my.

1849
01:38:03,080 --> 01:38:04,120
Speaker 5: Guy's not gonna run A grete.

1850
01:38:04,120 --> 01:38:06,920
Speaker 8: FORTY i don't want, that you, know forty necessarily in

1851
01:38:06,960 --> 01:38:07,519
Speaker 8: the combined.

1852
01:38:07,600 --> 01:38:10,840
Speaker 5: Data SO i do think you see some of, That but, NO.

1853
01:38:10,880 --> 01:38:14,439
Speaker 3: I don't, think you, know it's less than too too.

1854
01:38:14,520 --> 01:38:17,400
Speaker 8: MUCH i you, know maybe there's some other aspects of

1855
01:38:17,439 --> 01:38:19,200
Speaker 8: the combine we talk about a little bit, more BUT

1856
01:38:19,920 --> 01:38:24,160
Speaker 8: i still think from a data, standpoint, again much more

1857
01:38:24,200 --> 01:38:26,800
Speaker 8: of an analytical aspect of. IT i think a lot

1858
01:38:26,840 --> 01:38:27,760
Speaker 8: of people find it super.

1859
01:38:27,800 --> 01:38:32,320
Speaker 1: Relevant you, know when you if you overall look at,

1860
01:38:32,320 --> 01:38:37,040
Speaker 1: It kevin like A. Mendoza do you Blame mendoza for

1861
01:38:37,120 --> 01:38:39,800
Speaker 1: Saying i'm not going to, throw because at this point

1862
01:38:39,920 --> 01:38:42,720
Speaker 1: it seems as though anything that he, does they are

1863
01:38:42,760 --> 01:38:45,760
Speaker 1: only going to look for reasons to demerit him as

1864
01:38:45,800 --> 01:38:48,920
Speaker 1: opposed to verify. Him does that make?

1865
01:38:49,000 --> 01:38:51,800
Speaker 5: Sense, YEAH i mean there's no point in him.

1866
01:38:51,840 --> 01:38:56,960
Speaker 8: THROWING i, YEAH i, mean you, know If Dante moore

1867
01:38:57,120 --> 01:39:00,680
Speaker 8: was in this draft, class, maybe but like you, know

1868
01:39:00,720 --> 01:39:02,200
Speaker 8: you are clearly to the number one.

1869
01:39:02,240 --> 01:39:05,280
Speaker 3: Pick you, KNOW i believe he said he's gonna throw

1870
01:39:05,280 --> 01:39:05,599
Speaker 3: at The Pro.

1871
01:39:05,680 --> 01:39:08,000
Speaker 8: Day you, know he wants to obviously help out The

1872
01:39:08,040 --> 01:39:11,280
Speaker 8: Omar coopers And Elijah throts and all of that, aspect

1873
01:39:11,400 --> 01:39:13,160
Speaker 8: which you know makes total sense to me as.

1874
01:39:13,200 --> 01:39:17,240
Speaker 5: Well so, YEAH i don't you, know quarterbacks.

1875
01:39:17,240 --> 01:39:20,680
Speaker 8: THROWING i don't think that maybe is as relevant when

1876
01:39:20,720 --> 01:39:22,880
Speaker 8: you are clearly the number one. Guy you just want

1877
01:39:22,880 --> 01:39:26,040
Speaker 8: The Heisman trophy winner or you just wore The Heisman trophy. Winner,

1878
01:39:27,800 --> 01:39:30,000
Speaker 8: Yeah i'm not surprised by that at.

1879
01:39:30,000 --> 01:39:33,400
Speaker 1: All you, Know Kevin bowen is my, guest of course

1880
01:39:33,439 --> 01:39:36,200
Speaker 1: from The Fan Morning, show along With James boyd And Jeff.

1881
01:39:36,280 --> 01:39:39,240
Speaker 1: Rickard you hear him each and every morning at SEVEN

1882
01:39:39,280 --> 01:39:43,920
Speaker 1: am with The. COLTS i Asked james this. Yesterday i'll

1883
01:39:43,920 --> 01:39:46,880
Speaker 1: ask you the. Same do you believe there's any chance

1884
01:39:47,320 --> 01:39:50,640
Speaker 1: that The colts could or is there a prospect or

1885
01:39:50,680 --> 01:39:54,120
Speaker 1: a position of need that is such for The colts

1886
01:39:54,400 --> 01:39:56,800
Speaker 1: where they could find or be tempted to try to

1887
01:39:56,960 --> 01:40:00,240
Speaker 1: somehow trade themselves back in To round nownumber.

1888
01:40:00,280 --> 01:40:02,840
Speaker 5: One, well it's just so.

1889
01:40:03,120 --> 01:40:07,080
Speaker 8: RICH i mean that would it would you, know take

1890
01:40:07,120 --> 01:40:08,240
Speaker 8: a big time draft.

1891
01:40:08,280 --> 01:40:10,160
Speaker 5: PICK i. DON'T i GUESS i would also take a

1892
01:40:10,160 --> 01:40:10,960
Speaker 5: big time player on the.

1893
01:40:11,040 --> 01:40:13,360
Speaker 8: Roster and you know the fact that you've already traded

1894
01:40:13,360 --> 01:40:15,720
Speaker 8: away your two first round. PICKS i just don't know

1895
01:40:15,760 --> 01:40:18,760
Speaker 8: if you're in a situation to where you could do.

1896
01:40:18,880 --> 01:40:21,000
Speaker 5: That if we were here, streaming it was just.

1897
01:40:21,080 --> 01:40:24,160
Speaker 8: One need or two, needs and you, know maybe you

1898
01:40:24,240 --> 01:40:26,080
Speaker 8: check one in free agency and then you check the

1899
01:40:26,080 --> 01:40:26,479
Speaker 8: other in the.

1900
01:40:26,560 --> 01:40:28,400
Speaker 5: Draft. Possibly but you.

1901
01:40:28,400 --> 01:40:31,320
Speaker 8: Know i've found, interesting you, know the early chatter from

1902
01:40:31,320 --> 01:40:34,120
Speaker 8: some of these draft. People you, Know Daniel jeremiah saw

1903
01:40:34,120 --> 01:40:36,120
Speaker 8: his mock draft larder in the. Week he had seven

1904
01:40:36,240 --> 01:40:39,519
Speaker 8: edge rushers going in round. ONE i mean that is

1905
01:40:39,560 --> 01:40:41,840
Speaker 8: a huge. NUMBER i mean almost a quarter of the

1906
01:40:41,880 --> 01:40:45,640
Speaker 8: picks are at a premium position AND i venture to

1907
01:40:45,640 --> 01:40:47,559
Speaker 8: guess if you look at recent, drafts we have not

1908
01:40:48,360 --> 01:40:50,400
Speaker 8: gotten to that number very, often and a lot of

1909
01:40:50,439 --> 01:40:54,120
Speaker 8: them very early in the draft. Too so here for The,

1910
01:40:54,120 --> 01:40:57,760
Speaker 8: colts that would tend to be your biggest. Need you,

1911
01:40:57,760 --> 01:40:59,559
Speaker 8: know the fact that edge rusher is so deep in

1912
01:40:59,560 --> 01:41:01,200
Speaker 8: this DRAFT i think would be beneficial to.

1913
01:41:01,320 --> 01:41:01,800
Speaker 1: Them so.

1914
01:41:03,360 --> 01:41:05,840
Speaker 8: You, KNOW i guess until the board starts falling on

1915
01:41:05,840 --> 01:41:08,000
Speaker 8: That thursday, night you never truly. Know but to move

1916
01:41:08,040 --> 01:41:11,320
Speaker 8: from what are they forty seven overall to thirty one thirty,

1917
01:41:11,360 --> 01:41:15,160
Speaker 8: TWO i mean you're asking to mortgage even more draft.

1918
01:41:15,200 --> 01:41:17,560
Speaker 2: Picks D Angel JEREM i own that conference call that

1919
01:41:17,680 --> 01:41:20,840
Speaker 2: he does each. You kevin yesterday said that most teams trade,

1920
01:41:20,880 --> 01:41:22,920
Speaker 2: up especially in the back end of the first, round

1921
01:41:23,040 --> 01:41:25,800
Speaker 2: for you, know big people offensive, line defensive line to,

1922
01:41:25,920 --> 01:41:28,080
Speaker 2: quarterbacks and he said he didn't think there was gonna

1923
01:41:28,080 --> 01:41:29,680
Speaker 2: be that much movement in the back this. Year but

1924
01:41:30,120 --> 01:41:32,559
Speaker 2: number two, here if to go to The Alec pearce

1925
01:41:32,640 --> 01:41:35,720
Speaker 2: And Michael Pittman junior, dilemma if they decide to go

1926
01:41:35,800 --> 01:41:39,840
Speaker 2: down the route of Releasing Michael Pittman. Jr could you

1927
01:41:39,920 --> 01:41:42,880
Speaker 2: see them going wide receiver in round number? Two if

1928
01:41:42,880 --> 01:41:45,479
Speaker 2: there's a guy that they truly like there or what

1929
01:41:45,560 --> 01:41:47,479
Speaker 2: the comments At Chris ballard is, saying we need to get,

1930
01:41:47,520 --> 01:41:49,920
Speaker 2: younger we need to get faster on. Defense do you

1931
01:41:49,920 --> 01:41:52,320
Speaker 2: think defense has proborady won in the draft for?

1932
01:41:52,360 --> 01:41:56,000
Speaker 5: Them, YEAH i still think it is defense.

1933
01:41:56,040 --> 01:41:59,240
Speaker 8: Now you, know, again it's whatever they Let pittman, walk

1934
01:41:59,240 --> 01:42:01,200
Speaker 8: Which i'm probably more a fan of a restructure than

1935
01:42:01,280 --> 01:42:05,640
Speaker 8: letting them out right. Walk but if you, do or

1936
01:42:05,640 --> 01:42:07,439
Speaker 8: you trade him and don't get a wide out, back

1937
01:42:07,520 --> 01:42:11,200
Speaker 8: then wide receiver is certainly a, need and probably a

1938
01:42:11,240 --> 01:42:14,400
Speaker 8: decently high. Need you, KNOW i DON'T i Like ashton

1939
01:42:14,439 --> 01:42:15,680
Speaker 8: doing a whole, lot BUT i don't know IF i

1940
01:42:15,720 --> 01:42:20,640
Speaker 8: like him playing sixty snaps for seventeen, weeks so you, know, potentially,

1941
01:42:20,800 --> 01:42:22,360
Speaker 8: YEAH i, could.

1942
01:42:22,080 --> 01:42:22,679
Speaker 5: You know see.

1943
01:42:22,680 --> 01:42:25,439
Speaker 8: That you, KNOW i Think i've even seen a mock

1944
01:42:25,520 --> 01:42:27,519
Speaker 8: Or Malachi feels at A Notre dame has been a

1945
01:42:27,560 --> 01:42:30,400
Speaker 8: guy that has been take for The, colts and, honestly his.

1946
01:42:30,400 --> 01:42:33,240
Speaker 5: Game reminds me a bit About, pierce to be totally.

1947
01:42:33,320 --> 01:42:37,519
Speaker 8: Honest so, yeah the Whole, Really pittman is the only

1948
01:42:37,640 --> 01:42:40,120
Speaker 8: one WHERE i could like if that domino were to

1949
01:42:40,280 --> 01:42:42,800
Speaker 8: fall and he were to, Leave that's the only WAY

1950
01:42:42,840 --> 01:42:44,600
Speaker 8: i could really see an offensive.

1951
01:42:44,160 --> 01:42:47,120
Speaker 5: Pick there early in the.

1952
01:42:47,240 --> 01:42:49,720
Speaker 8: DRAFT i, mean, honestly when we talked day two of the,

1953
01:42:49,760 --> 01:42:51,439
Speaker 8: draft the day two is round two and.

1954
01:42:51,520 --> 01:42:56,520
Speaker 5: Three to, me that needs to be. Defense, defense defensive,

1955
01:42:56,560 --> 01:42:57,439
Speaker 5: line you, know.

1956
01:42:57,520 --> 01:43:00,840
Speaker 8: Linebacker If Nick cross leads in free, agent, see you

1957
01:43:00,920 --> 01:43:03,200
Speaker 8: got to look at. SAFETY i, HONESTLY i know you

1958
01:43:03,280 --> 01:43:05,519
Speaker 8: drafted a corner last year in round, three but If

1959
01:43:05,520 --> 01:43:11,120
Speaker 8: Tavarious ward does, retire you know that that POSITION i

1960
01:43:11,160 --> 01:43:13,040
Speaker 8: think is now a, big big need once.

1961
01:43:13,120 --> 01:43:15,559
Speaker 5: Again so, YEAH i can't really see.

1962
01:43:15,320 --> 01:43:19,840
Speaker 1: It When kevin when analyzing this. Draft and maybe it's

1963
01:43:19,880 --> 01:43:26,120
Speaker 1: early for us to know this just yet in terms

1964
01:43:26,120 --> 01:43:28,760
Speaker 1: of what the discussions and the narratives are going to.

1965
01:43:28,800 --> 01:43:31,960
Speaker 1: Be but every year going into a, draft there is

1966
01:43:32,000 --> 01:43:34,360
Speaker 1: a position that people, say, oh this is a deep

1967
01:43:34,400 --> 01:43:37,559
Speaker 1: one at. That, boy if you're in the market for you,

1968
01:43:37,560 --> 01:43:39,360
Speaker 1: know a defensive end or a tie it at whatever

1969
01:43:39,400 --> 01:43:41,960
Speaker 1: it may, be this is the year for. You this

1970
01:43:42,520 --> 01:43:44,559
Speaker 1: from what you have been able to see to this,

1971
01:43:44,760 --> 01:43:49,479
Speaker 1: point this draft appears very deep in what area and

1972
01:43:49,520 --> 01:43:50,960
Speaker 1: it appears shallow in what.

1973
01:43:51,120 --> 01:43:55,360
Speaker 8: AREA i MEAN i do THINK i mean, Again i'll

1974
01:43:55,360 --> 01:43:56,920
Speaker 8: go back to the edge. RUSHER i mean it does

1975
01:43:56,960 --> 01:43:59,240
Speaker 8: sound like that as a position group and a little

1976
01:43:59,240 --> 01:44:02,000
Speaker 8: bit of, linebacker WHICH i don't think is something we

1977
01:44:02,080 --> 01:44:04,280
Speaker 8: have said again here in a lot of recent.

1978
01:44:04,400 --> 01:44:07,439
Speaker 5: Drafts so that you, KNOW i think.

1979
01:44:07,320 --> 01:44:09,320
Speaker 8: Is good for The colts when you look at it

1980
01:44:09,439 --> 01:44:12,240
Speaker 8: from their need and you, know the desire to point

1981
01:44:12,280 --> 01:44:13,160
Speaker 8: back to, eddie'es.

1982
01:44:15,080 --> 01:44:17,040
Speaker 5: You, Know chrispout quotes of.

1983
01:44:16,960 --> 01:44:19,280
Speaker 8: You, know wanting to get, younger you, know as far

1984
01:44:19,320 --> 01:44:21,120
Speaker 8: as where it's a little bit more, SHALLOW i didn't.

1985
01:44:21,200 --> 01:44:23,360
Speaker 5: Quarterback, HONESTLY i found it.

1986
01:44:23,400 --> 01:44:25,360
Speaker 8: INTERESTING i was listening To Dane brugler the other, day

1987
01:44:25,400 --> 01:44:28,519
Speaker 8: THE nfl draft analyst for The, athletic and he said

1988
01:44:28,560 --> 01:44:31,960
Speaker 8: that he feels, like AND i Hope i'm quoting him correctly,

1989
01:44:31,960 --> 01:44:35,800
Speaker 8: here he feels like If Arch manning would have declared

1990
01:44:35,840 --> 01:44:38,760
Speaker 8: that he could have Challenged mendoza for the number one,

1991
01:44:38,840 --> 01:44:41,280
Speaker 8: pick which, is, boy you want to talk about a

1992
01:44:41,360 --> 01:44:46,280
Speaker 8: wild debate of you, Know Heisman trophy winter production. VERSUS i,

1993
01:44:46,640 --> 01:44:48,799
Speaker 8: MEAN i, GUESS i know we Watched arch play football

1994
01:44:48,840 --> 01:44:51,519
Speaker 8: for a, year but you, know certainly mostly on potential

1995
01:44:51,520 --> 01:44:55,160
Speaker 8: and last, name you, know from an entertainment, value that

1996
01:44:55,200 --> 01:44:58,639
Speaker 8: would be quite something if IF nfl teams really would

1997
01:44:58,640 --> 01:45:01,240
Speaker 8: have debate about it as much Miss brugler says they would,

1998
01:45:01,240 --> 01:45:03,479
Speaker 8: have but you, know quarterback seems like a really Especially

1999
01:45:03,479 --> 01:45:05,120
Speaker 8: trinidad chamblisk in a sixth.

2000
01:45:05,000 --> 01:45:07,400
Speaker 5: Year that that seems to be a really weak. Draft

2001
01:45:07,439 --> 01:45:09,120
Speaker 5: so you, know, again we'll.

2002
01:45:09,240 --> 01:45:11,680
Speaker 8: Learn more next, week but it does seem like a

2003
01:45:12,000 --> 01:45:14,160
Speaker 8: pretty good draft for The.

2004
01:45:14,200 --> 01:45:19,040
Speaker 1: Colts Needs Notre dame And pitt in college basketball this

2005
01:45:19,120 --> 01:45:23,280
Speaker 1: weekend heading into The. Combine pretty nice little weekend lining

2006
01:45:23,360 --> 01:45:23,920
Speaker 1: up at The bowen.

2007
01:45:24,000 --> 01:45:26,880
Speaker 2: HOUSEHOLD i can't.

2008
01:45:26,880 --> 01:45:29,200
Speaker 8: Wait and it looks Like, Anderson indiana noon On.

2009
01:45:29,240 --> 01:45:30,559
Speaker 5: Saturday that's.

2010
01:45:30,680 --> 01:45:35,439
Speaker 1: Right head up To, henderson get yourself some, curling stop

2011
01:45:35,439 --> 01:45:37,240
Speaker 1: and get some eye up on the way home at

2012
01:45:37,240 --> 01:45:40,360
Speaker 1: their seven ie up locations On, scatterfield and then you

2013
01:45:40,400 --> 01:45:42,919
Speaker 1: are on your way back For Notre. Damement. Pitt appreciate

2014
01:45:42,960 --> 01:45:45,840
Speaker 1: the time as, Always, Kevin hie, boys that's great. Weekend

2015
01:45:46,000 --> 01:45:49,639
Speaker 1: Kevin bowen joining us on The Java house Cole Brew

2016
01:45:49,680 --> 01:45:52,760
Speaker 1: coffee guest. Line all, right when we were talking about the, Draft,

2017
01:45:53,040 --> 01:45:57,040
Speaker 1: Daniel jeremiah And, eddie this is basically THE nfl networks

2018
01:45:57,160 --> 01:45:59,519
Speaker 1: mel kiper, Right, yes the easiest way to say.

2019
01:45:59,360 --> 01:46:00,519
Speaker 2: It, yeah put it.

2020
01:46:00,560 --> 01:46:03,120
Speaker 1: Out he had some interesting things that you scoured, through

2021
01:46:03,120 --> 01:46:04,360
Speaker 1: AND i want to get to this since we're talking

2022
01:46:04,400 --> 01:46:06,720
Speaker 1: about the combine, notably and there were two things that

2023
01:46:06,800 --> 01:46:11,200
Speaker 1: jumped out at, me the first, being you, know With,

2024
01:46:11,320 --> 01:46:16,280
Speaker 1: mendoza And i've asked this, question Is Fernanda mendoza the

2025
01:46:16,360 --> 01:46:18,880
Speaker 1: number one pick in this draft because he is a

2026
01:46:18,920 --> 01:46:22,000
Speaker 1: camp miss quarterback? Prospect or is he the number one

2027
01:46:22,000 --> 01:46:24,880
Speaker 1: pick in this draft because The raiders having to need

2028
01:46:24,920 --> 01:46:28,160
Speaker 1: a quarterback and he is the tallest member of The

2029
01:46:28,200 --> 01:46:30,920
Speaker 1: Lollipop guild in this? Class you, know is he a

2030
01:46:31,000 --> 01:46:35,160
Speaker 1: presumptive annual can't miss number one or is he the

2031
01:46:35,200 --> 01:46:40,400
Speaker 1: beneficiary of a dry? Year Daniel jeremiah on Ranking mendoza

2032
01:46:41,080 --> 01:46:44,160
Speaker 1: in comparison to other draft classes.

2033
01:46:43,720 --> 01:46:49,840
Speaker 10: Before Comparing mendoza with The Bryce YOUNG. Cj shroud. Draft you,

2034
01:46:49,840 --> 01:46:52,160
Speaker 10: KNOW i would have, him you, know just off of

2035
01:46:52,200 --> 01:46:55,800
Speaker 10: the college, grade just a tick above those guys for,

2036
01:46:55,960 --> 01:46:58,439
Speaker 10: Me SO i would Place mendoz over. HIM i would

2037
01:46:58,439 --> 01:47:01,439
Speaker 10: put him. Behind know the group we had a couple

2038
01:47:01,479 --> 01:47:03,280
Speaker 10: of years, ago those top three guys for, me it

2039
01:47:03,360 --> 01:47:07,080
Speaker 10: Was caleb, one it was may To Jayden daniels. Three

2040
01:47:07,160 --> 01:47:10,720
Speaker 10: he would slot in behind those. Guys BUT i think

2041
01:47:10,760 --> 01:47:13,120
Speaker 10: HE'S i think he's. EXCELLENT i think he's ready to.

2042
01:47:13,120 --> 01:47:17,120
Speaker 10: Go he's incredibly. Tough the stuff with, HIM i, know

2043
01:47:17,520 --> 01:47:20,679
Speaker 10: talking to people early, on it was The indiana, offense

2044
01:47:20,720 --> 01:47:23,400
Speaker 10: and it's you, know it's, RPOs the balls, out it's

2045
01:47:23,479 --> 01:47:26,800
Speaker 10: back shoulders and not much. Else and then you go

2046
01:47:26,840 --> 01:47:28,679
Speaker 10: through and study him and you watch all the third

2047
01:47:28,720 --> 01:47:32,360
Speaker 10: and seven plus throws that he makes and tight windows

2048
01:47:32,479 --> 01:47:35,960
Speaker 10: and hanging in and taking big shots and showing his.

2049
01:47:36,040 --> 01:47:38,599
Speaker 10: Toughness and then you look at him in the red,

2050
01:47:38,680 --> 01:47:40,679
Speaker 10: zone and you look at him in key moments and big,

2051
01:47:40,720 --> 01:47:43,400
Speaker 10: games AND i don't really know how you could have

2052
01:47:43,439 --> 01:47:45,599
Speaker 10: too much of a concern. There SO i think he's

2053
01:47:45,640 --> 01:47:47,800
Speaker 10: an excellent. Player and that's WHERE i know kind of

2054
01:47:47,840 --> 01:47:48,960
Speaker 10: had him evaluated through the.

2055
01:47:49,000 --> 01:47:53,080
Speaker 1: Process, okay That's Daniel JEREMIAH Nfl network talking About. Mendoza,

2056
01:47:53,200 --> 01:47:56,600
Speaker 1: now as for The colts themselves and specifically, there the

2057
01:47:56,640 --> 01:47:58,560
Speaker 1: big question mark is going to Be number one is.

2058
01:47:58,640 --> 01:48:02,280
Speaker 1: Quarterback AND i think we know now That Daniel. Jones you,

2059
01:48:02,320 --> 01:48:05,839
Speaker 1: know we clearly know that from The colts, Standpoint Daniel

2060
01:48:05,920 --> 01:48:09,200
Speaker 1: jones is their. Guy now the question is is that

2061
01:48:09,320 --> 01:48:12,400
Speaker 1: love as reciprocated. Back it would be In Daniel jones'

2062
01:48:12,400 --> 01:48:15,320
Speaker 1: best interest to be a little koy on that right

2063
01:48:15,320 --> 01:48:19,200
Speaker 1: from a financial, Standpoint But Alec pierce is the other.

2064
01:48:19,240 --> 01:48:22,400
Speaker 1: One if you franchise To Alec, pierce you're going to

2065
01:48:22,439 --> 01:48:26,479
Speaker 1: pay him twenty eight million, roughly and that's about what

2066
01:48:26,600 --> 01:48:29,800
Speaker 1: his market value is going to be. Anyway so you

2067
01:48:29,880 --> 01:48:31,880
Speaker 1: may just go ahead and franchise tag him to make

2068
01:48:31,920 --> 01:48:34,680
Speaker 1: sure that you're not losing. Him if you're confident that

2069
01:48:34,720 --> 01:48:38,400
Speaker 1: you can Sign Daniel. Jones Tagging Daniel jones is going

2070
01:48:38,479 --> 01:48:41,479
Speaker 1: to cost you forty seven, Million you're going to overpay

2071
01:48:41,479 --> 01:48:44,080
Speaker 1: in that, Situation but then you can, continue you can

2072
01:48:44,160 --> 01:48:47,040
Speaker 1: continue to. Negotiate that's something that the cults are going

2073
01:48:47,080 --> 01:48:49,880
Speaker 1: to have to figure out if for some reason With Alec,

2074
01:48:49,960 --> 01:48:52,559
Speaker 1: pierce if they were to lose, him if they were

2075
01:48:52,560 --> 01:48:56,040
Speaker 1: not able to tag, him whatever it may, be then

2076
01:48:56,840 --> 01:49:00,760
Speaker 1: could you find a replacement For Alec pierce within the

2077
01:49:00,840 --> 01:49:03,920
Speaker 1: draft all of those things talked about here By Daniel.

2078
01:49:03,960 --> 01:49:06,720
Speaker 10: JEREMIAH i Think pierce and just talking to, TEAMS i

2079
01:49:06,720 --> 01:49:08,800
Speaker 10: think he'll have a robust market if he were to

2080
01:49:08,800 --> 01:49:10,840
Speaker 10: get out of the. Building so if you're trying to

2081
01:49:10,840 --> 01:49:13,280
Speaker 10: replace some of, that you, know kind of kind of

2082
01:49:13,280 --> 01:49:17,240
Speaker 10: that size, element that big play element, downfield you, Know

2083
01:49:17,520 --> 01:49:19,479
Speaker 10: Denzel boston is going to go in the first. Round

2084
01:49:19,560 --> 01:49:21,880
Speaker 10: Malachi fields probably goes in the second.

2085
01:49:21,960 --> 01:49:23,479
Speaker 5: Round, uh in that.

2086
01:49:23,600 --> 01:49:26,160
Speaker 10: Range but you've GOT i, mean you've got guys who

2087
01:49:26,160 --> 01:49:29,519
Speaker 10: can get down the. Field you, know we'll see what

2088
01:49:29,520 --> 01:49:32,240
Speaker 10: happens With Chris brazl From. Tennessee he's a big. Guy

2089
01:49:32,560 --> 01:49:34,679
Speaker 10: if you're looking for those big guys to try and replace,

2090
01:49:34,760 --> 01:49:37,240
Speaker 10: them and then you've got some, real, real you, know

2091
01:49:37,360 --> 01:49:40,400
Speaker 10: good undersized players THAT i. Like And Antonio williams From.

2092
01:49:40,400 --> 01:49:43,800
Speaker 10: Clemson you Had Zach branch From georgia who can, Fly

2093
01:49:44,760 --> 01:49:47,040
Speaker 10: Jeremy bernard From. Alabama you, know it can do a

2094
01:49:47,040 --> 01:49:49,920
Speaker 10: little bit of. Everything so there's a lot of guys

2095
01:49:50,080 --> 01:49:52,800
Speaker 10: a mid round like the third round guy with through out.

2096
01:49:52,800 --> 01:49:55,840
Speaker 10: There i'm A Milnk benson fan From oregon who's got,

2097
01:49:55,920 --> 01:49:59,000
Speaker 10: big big. Speeds so if they if they do Lose,

2098
01:49:59,080 --> 01:50:01,200
Speaker 10: pierce they'll have some options to go get some.

2099
01:50:01,240 --> 01:50:05,280
Speaker 1: Help, Okay, now Is Omar Cooper junior one of those?

2100
01:50:05,320 --> 01:50:09,120
Speaker 1: OPTIONS a local kid played really well For. Indiana he

2101
01:50:09,240 --> 01:50:10,960
Speaker 1: had that, catch he had the catch of the year

2102
01:50:11,000 --> 01:50:14,080
Speaker 1: in college football Against Penn. State And i'm not going

2103
01:50:14,160 --> 01:50:16,760
Speaker 1: to say late, developer but maybe it Was mendoza that

2104
01:50:16,880 --> 01:50:20,559
Speaker 1: awakened it a little. Bit but let's hear about Where

2105
01:50:20,600 --> 01:50:23,320
Speaker 1: Omar Cooper junior may slot in terms of this.

2106
01:50:23,439 --> 01:50:24,960
Speaker 10: DRAFT i tweet out the other day he's like the

2107
01:50:25,040 --> 01:50:29,000
Speaker 10: ramsiest receiver and like men as a compliment of someone

2108
01:50:29,040 --> 01:50:34,599
Speaker 10: who's just incredibly tough and. Strong they like to use

2109
01:50:34,640 --> 01:50:36,719
Speaker 10: the term being grounded through the, catch like your cleats

2110
01:50:36,720 --> 01:50:38,519
Speaker 10: are in the, ground you catch everything on the. Run

2111
01:50:38,880 --> 01:50:40,840
Speaker 10: you have confidence in your. Hand you're not leaving your

2112
01:50:40,840 --> 01:50:43,439
Speaker 10: feet and crawling the ball with your, body which gives

2113
01:50:43,479 --> 01:50:45,400
Speaker 10: you an opportunity to do some things with it after the.

2114
01:50:45,439 --> 01:50:49,200
Speaker 10: Catch he's got a really strong lower. Body everybody's going

2115
01:50:49,280 --> 01:50:52,160
Speaker 10: to highlight the game winner Against Penn state and the

2116
01:50:52,200 --> 01:50:55,479
Speaker 10: incredible CATCH i saw a catch Against illinois in the

2117
01:50:55,520 --> 01:50:57,080
Speaker 10: middle of the field where he got, drilled WHERE i

2118
01:50:57,080 --> 01:50:59,760
Speaker 10: thought was even more impressive than that game, winner and

2119
01:50:59,800 --> 01:51:01,560
Speaker 10: then and all the stuff you hear about, him you,

2120
01:51:01,600 --> 01:51:03,600
Speaker 10: know from a character, standpoint is elite off the.

2121
01:51:03,680 --> 01:51:04,840
Speaker 1: Charts that's a pretty good.

2122
01:51:04,880 --> 01:51:09,160
Speaker 2: Review he Loves Omar Cooper. Jr he loves him like

2123
01:51:09,240 --> 01:51:11,240
Speaker 2: he's been very high on him on social media as

2124
01:51:11,240 --> 01:51:16,160
Speaker 2: he illuminated there and that, Question, jake there was somebody

2125
01:51:16,160 --> 01:51:21,000
Speaker 2: From cincinnati asked about a potential slot receiver that could you,

2126
01:51:21,040 --> 01:51:22,599
Speaker 2: know go over there and help out The, Bengals and

2127
01:51:22,600 --> 01:51:24,360
Speaker 2: that was the guy he went. To he said he'd

2128
01:51:24,360 --> 01:51:26,160
Speaker 2: be running up as soon as if he was on the,

2129
01:51:26,160 --> 01:51:28,400
Speaker 2: clock if he Was cincinnati to turn in the card

2130
01:51:28,400 --> 01:51:29,800
Speaker 2: With Omar Cooper junior's name on.

2131
01:51:29,840 --> 01:51:35,160
Speaker 1: It the how big Is? Cooper what's he listed at?

2132
01:51:38,800 --> 01:51:42,880
Speaker 1: Six is he six foot six? One he is Six

2133
01:51:44,320 --> 01:51:48,920
Speaker 1: i'll tell you what though his you, know ideally one

2134
01:51:49,160 --> 01:51:51,760
Speaker 1: ideally you always, hear you, know, oh you, KNOW i

2135
01:51:51,800 --> 01:51:52,919
Speaker 1: want somebody that's.

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Speaker 3: Six' four is.

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01:51:55,120 --> 01:51:57,559
Speaker 1: My primary AND again i don't know that that anybody

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01:51:57,600 --> 01:51:59,920
Speaker 1: would Be Taking cooper junior as a. Primary receiver but

2139
01:52:01,040 --> 01:52:10,759
Speaker 1: Clearly The penn, state catch the body control on that play.

2140
01:52:11,200 --> 01:52:15,200
Speaker 1: Was remarkable the presence of mind and the instinct and

2141
01:52:15,240 --> 01:52:19,760
Speaker 1: the toe tap was remarkable. To me the thing that

2142
01:52:19,880 --> 01:52:24,040
Speaker 1: was the most remarkable on that play when you really

2143
01:52:24,080 --> 01:52:29,080
Speaker 1: look at that a photo, of that is how high

2144
01:52:29,120 --> 01:52:32,680
Speaker 1: he got off. The field, it's incredible his, leaping ability

2145
01:52:34,200 --> 01:52:38,200
Speaker 1: his ability to get into. The air, AND yeah i

2146
01:52:38,240 --> 01:52:40,080
Speaker 1: mean you are your job is to go out, and

2147
01:52:40,160 --> 01:52:42,320
Speaker 1: run arout and catch past not to be in a high.

2148
01:52:42,360 --> 01:52:45,120
Speaker 1: Jump competition but if you have concern that a guy's

2149
01:52:45,160 --> 01:52:46,680
Speaker 1: two inches too short or, whatever else and, it's, like

2150
01:52:46,760 --> 01:52:48,599
Speaker 1: yeah but he's got a forty two. Inch, vertical okay

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01:52:48,640 --> 01:52:53,200
Speaker 1: that helps, great athlete no question. About it it Is.

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01:52:53,240 --> 01:52:56,439
Speaker 1: A friday it Is a, franciscan health, feel good good

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01:52:56,479 --> 01:53:01,080
Speaker 1: for The, herd friday and today's it already takes place

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01:53:01,920 --> 01:53:05,280
Speaker 1: just about eighteen blocks north Of where i'm sitting. Right

2155
01:53:05,320 --> 01:53:07,640
Speaker 1: now you may not Know where i'm sitting, right now

2156
01:53:07,680 --> 01:53:10,000
Speaker 1: and so therefore you're thinking, to, yourself well where would.

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01:53:10,040 --> 01:53:13,000
Speaker 1: That be stick around a, couple Minutes and i'll TELL

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01:53:13,000 --> 01:53:18,120
Speaker 1: you i have discussed the School that i'm going to mention.

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01:53:18,320 --> 01:53:21,880
Speaker 1: Shortly before but when it comes to, THE heart i

2160
01:53:21,880 --> 01:53:24,280
Speaker 1: guess you would say it's one that's close, to mine

2161
01:53:25,840 --> 01:53:28,559
Speaker 1: as close as one can peripherally be to. An extent

2162
01:53:30,320 --> 01:53:32,479
Speaker 1: but it Is, a friday bottom of. The hour that

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01:53:32,560 --> 01:53:35,400
Speaker 1: means it is time For a, franciscan health, feel good

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Speaker 1: good for The. Heart friday and you know we told

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Speaker 1: you a couple of weeks ago about the importance for

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01:53:41,160 --> 01:53:45,400
Speaker 1: women in particular and being aware of. Heart disease when

2167
01:53:45,439 --> 01:53:47,960
Speaker 1: it comes, TO women i think, that we for, whatever

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01:53:48,080 --> 01:53:52,839
Speaker 1: reason as a society, or culture we think of, heart disease,

2169
01:53:52,880 --> 01:53:56,200
Speaker 1: heart attacks heart risk being a, you know a, man

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01:53:56,439 --> 01:54:01,479
Speaker 1: thing but unfortunately still a leading cause of death for women.

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01:54:01,600 --> 01:54:04,080
Speaker 1: As well symptoms are a little. Bit different that's why

2172
01:54:04,080 --> 01:54:07,360
Speaker 1: it's so important, for women but for men or. Women

2173
01:54:07,439 --> 01:54:10,880
Speaker 1: either one the first step towards a healthy heart is

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Speaker 1: to get that heart scan just forty nine Dollars From.

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Speaker 1: Franciscan Health And, franciscan health, of course is number One

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Speaker 1: in indiana for cardiology by, health grades number One in

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Speaker 1: indiana for interventional coronary care and major cardiac surgery by.

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Speaker 1: Care checks all of the scores are, telling, You yes

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Speaker 1: franciscan is the place when it comes to heart health

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01:54:29,800 --> 01:54:33,879
Speaker 1: and that heart scan just forty, nine dollars, not invasive easy,

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01:54:33,920 --> 01:54:36,720
Speaker 1: to do and with it comes. YOU know i was

2182
01:54:36,760 --> 01:54:42,280
Speaker 1: just telling somebody the other day two ways to basically

2183
01:54:42,480 --> 01:54:46,000
Speaker 1: clog a. Garden hose one is to get sediment that

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01:54:46,160 --> 01:54:49,240
Speaker 1: just builds inside that hose repeatedly and just builds it

2185
01:54:49,320 --> 01:54:51,160
Speaker 1: up and builds. It up before you, know it you

2186
01:54:51,240 --> 01:54:54,280
Speaker 1: got like hardened sediment inside that hose and the water

2187
01:54:54,360 --> 01:54:57,200
Speaker 1: is barely. Trickling out the other is just, you know

2188
01:54:57,320 --> 01:54:59,160
Speaker 1: just shove, a garden, you know a golf ball right

2189
01:54:59,160 --> 01:54:59,640
Speaker 1: in the middle of.

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Speaker 8: The.

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01:54:59,680 --> 01:55:03,920
Speaker 1: Garden uh the second is a, Blood clot THAT'S what.

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Speaker 1: I had the first could be an accumulation of plaque

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Speaker 1: and calcium that is building up inside of. The heart

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01:55:13,880 --> 01:55:16,760
Speaker 1: and that's what the heart scan can. Find out and

2195
01:55:16,840 --> 01:55:19,720
Speaker 1: so you get not just a score of where your

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01:55:19,720 --> 01:55:22,280
Speaker 1: heart stands and, that health but you also get a

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01:55:22,280 --> 01:55:24,800
Speaker 1: heart health risk assessment. With it so you then get,

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Speaker 1: the roadmap, the outlook the guideline book for what to

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Speaker 1: do for. Your heart and that's everything you get for

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Speaker 1: just forty nine dollars with a heart Scan From. Franciscan

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Speaker 1: you can always Just Google franciscan Health, Heart scan franciscanhealth

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Speaker 1: dot org slash screening bundles or call eight three three

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Speaker 1: two three eight zero six. Eight eight that's eight three

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Speaker 1: three two three eight zero six. Eight eight so our

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01:55:52,640 --> 01:55:57,320
Speaker 1: story begins today with that of a couple of THINGS

2207
01:55:57,320 --> 01:56:00,160
Speaker 1: that i and all of you knew growing Up. In

2208
01:56:00,160 --> 01:56:04,640
Speaker 1: indiana basketball is pretty big, around here and it always

2209
01:56:04,640 --> 01:56:09,040
Speaker 1: has been who's your hysteria and who's your hysteria facilitates

2210
01:56:09,960 --> 01:56:14,040
Speaker 1: and is probably a big part of why We in

2211
01:56:14,040 --> 01:56:17,200
Speaker 1: indiana have a pride about our. High schools there are

2212
01:56:17,200 --> 01:56:19,000
Speaker 1: a lot of reasons why one would be proud of,

2213
01:56:19,000 --> 01:56:22,640
Speaker 1: their school but the, basketball tournament going back all the

2214
01:56:22,640 --> 01:56:26,640
Speaker 1: way to yesteryear, to now is something that gets people

2215
01:56:26,680 --> 01:56:30,080
Speaker 1: excited about. Their school AND when i was a kid,

2216
01:56:30,120 --> 01:56:36,160
Speaker 1: GROWING up i saw in my mom this unbelievable pride

2217
01:56:36,200 --> 01:56:39,360
Speaker 1: she had for her. High SCHOOL and i think many

2218
01:56:39,400 --> 01:56:44,760
Speaker 1: people would tell You That Shortridge high school has as

2219
01:56:44,960 --> 01:56:49,200
Speaker 1: rich and is significant a history in this town as.

2220
01:56:49,280 --> 01:56:53,240
Speaker 1: Any school addics has a, great history as we've talked,

2221
01:56:53,280 --> 01:56:58,760
Speaker 1: about before with not just their basketball accomplishment of being

2222
01:56:58,800 --> 01:57:03,160
Speaker 1: the first undefeated high school state Champion in indiana, in

2223
01:57:03,200 --> 01:57:08,120
Speaker 1: basketball but also being The First african american school state

2224
01:57:08,200 --> 01:57:11,440
Speaker 1: champion in any sport In The, united states and In.

2225
01:57:12,000 --> 01:57:16,839
Speaker 1: Segregated Indiana and i'm talking about in an all, class tournament,

2226
01:57:17,720 --> 01:57:23,920
Speaker 1: you know In segregated indiana that Allowed. FOR addicts i

2227
01:57:23,920 --> 01:57:27,360
Speaker 1: guess unfortunately, or fortunately you got as good an Education

2228
01:57:27,440 --> 01:57:32,080
Speaker 1: At christmas addicts as anywhere because you had PhD professors

2229
01:57:32,080 --> 01:57:33,800
Speaker 1: that were teaching the high school. Classes THERE because i

2230
01:57:33,800 --> 01:57:37,480
Speaker 1: couldn't teach in colleges and embarrassing and dark part of our,

2231
01:57:37,800 --> 01:57:41,880
Speaker 1: state's history but truth nonetheless but addicts a fabulous school

2232
01:57:41,920 --> 01:57:44,520
Speaker 1: and a huge part of who we are so too Was.

2233
01:57:44,600 --> 01:57:49,040
Speaker 1: SHORT ridge a school That Produced, dick luger a school

2234
01:57:49,080 --> 01:57:52,200
Speaker 1: That Produced, kurt vonnegut a school That Produced, dan wakefield

2235
01:57:52,880 --> 01:57:56,520
Speaker 1: a school that Produced The, daily echo a daily student

2236
01:57:56,560 --> 01:58:01,000
Speaker 1: newspaper which, is incredible and a beautiful building right There A.

2237
01:58:01,040 --> 01:58:05,720
Speaker 1: North meridian and. My MOM when i was, A kid

2238
01:58:06,280 --> 01:58:10,000
Speaker 1: i remember my mom being so thrilled with her twenty

2239
01:58:10,120 --> 01:58:14,200
Speaker 1: year high school class reunion and then Shortly after, Shortridge

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01:58:14,200 --> 01:58:18,640
Speaker 1: closed and even as, A kid i could see the

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01:58:19,480 --> 01:58:22,640
Speaker 1: hurt and my mom and her group of Friends over

2242
01:58:22,680 --> 01:58:25,480
Speaker 1: shortridge closing and the pride they had in Being A

2243
01:58:25,480 --> 01:58:29,240
Speaker 1: blue devil and what it meant and how much that

2244
01:58:29,360 --> 01:58:32,560
Speaker 1: school not just for my mom and so many People,

2245
01:58:32,560 --> 01:58:37,560
Speaker 1: in indianapolis but, really nationwide how many people's lives were

2246
01:58:37,720 --> 01:58:44,080
Speaker 1: enriched by the artistry that was Built within. Shortridge's WALLS

2247
01:58:45,200 --> 01:58:47,920
Speaker 1: and i have also seen, since then over the course,

2248
01:58:47,960 --> 01:58:50,400
Speaker 1: of Time and shortridge has obviously come back as a

2249
01:58:50,480 --> 01:58:52,120
Speaker 1: high school and then as a middle school and then

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01:58:52,120 --> 01:58:54,760
Speaker 1: been closed again and with a lot of. The Schools

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01:58:54,760 --> 01:58:58,120
Speaker 1: in indianapolis, public schools you have this yin and yang

2252
01:58:58,400 --> 01:59:03,760
Speaker 1: of the existence of, the schools and oftentimes young people.

2253
01:59:03,760 --> 01:59:08,080
Speaker 1: Are observant young people are pretty smart, and keen and

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01:59:08,120 --> 01:59:12,600
Speaker 1: sometimes more so than. We realize, for EXAMPLE when i

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01:59:12,640 --> 01:59:15,440
Speaker 1: was a kid in short which, WAS closed i saw

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01:59:15,640 --> 01:59:19,760
Speaker 1: what that school met to so. Many people and as,

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01:59:19,760 --> 01:59:24,600
Speaker 1: AN adult i started doing work with mentoring programs in

2258
01:59:24,640 --> 01:59:28,160
Speaker 1: some of the more impoverished areas and elementary schools of,

2259
01:59:28,200 --> 01:59:33,440
Speaker 1: our CITY and i saw, great kids great kids that

2260
01:59:34,320 --> 01:59:39,760
Speaker 1: had hope and belief and optimism and perseverance because of

2261
01:59:39,800 --> 01:59:43,080
Speaker 1: the fact that they were going to schools that truthfully

2262
01:59:43,120 --> 01:59:47,520
Speaker 1: and frankly didn't have the resources perhaps of some. Other

2263
01:59:47,600 --> 01:59:51,680
Speaker 1: schools and, so eventually as they became aware of what

2264
01:59:51,800 --> 01:59:54,320
Speaker 1: was taking place elsewhere at, other schools and they got

2265
01:59:54,320 --> 01:59:57,800
Speaker 1: introduced to more what other, kids had they saw what

2266
01:59:57,920 --> 02:00:02,760
Speaker 1: their school, Did not, AND unfortunately i think young people

2267
02:00:02,840 --> 02:00:06,640
Speaker 1: then begin to think, to themselves if they're not willing

2268
02:00:06,720 --> 02:00:10,560
Speaker 1: to put the resources into my school for what they

2269
02:00:10,600 --> 02:00:13,920
Speaker 1: do at other schools within, the city then that means

2270
02:00:14,160 --> 02:00:16,600
Speaker 1: somehow or somewhere there are people that don't believe In

2271
02:00:16,680 --> 02:00:19,840
Speaker 1: what i'm doing or what. We're DOING and i know

2272
02:00:19,840 --> 02:00:22,240
Speaker 1: that that's, over NUANCED but i did, SEE it i did.

2273
02:00:22,280 --> 02:00:26,280
Speaker 1: Observe it and so that's WHY whenever i see a

2274
02:00:26,360 --> 02:00:30,400
Speaker 1: school that has lifted itself up and a student body

2275
02:00:30,440 --> 02:00:33,080
Speaker 1: that has lifted itself up and pulled itself up and

2276
02:00:33,200 --> 02:00:35,840
Speaker 1: is now giving people a reason like, my mom to

2277
02:00:35,880 --> 02:00:38,000
Speaker 1: have pride in, THEIR school i think it should. Be

2278
02:00:38,000 --> 02:00:43,000
Speaker 1: Celebrated and ryan McCrone is a guy that was Living, In,

2279
02:00:43,000 --> 02:00:47,840
Speaker 1: peoria illinois had worked In The National, hockey league but

2280
02:00:47,920 --> 02:00:53,000
Speaker 1: it always dreamed about becoming a. Basketball coach and he

2281
02:00:53,040 --> 02:00:55,440
Speaker 1: was teaching government and econ and he was involved in

2282
02:00:55,520 --> 02:00:59,560
Speaker 1: high schools and, he came of course another REASON why

2283
02:00:59,560 --> 02:01:02,360
Speaker 1: i love this story For the indy, five hundred and

2284
02:01:02,520 --> 02:01:05,600
Speaker 1: During an indy five hundred weekend with family Living, in indianapolis,

2285
02:01:05,640 --> 02:01:07,440
Speaker 1: he thought WHAT if i gave my shot to Work

2286
02:01:07,440 --> 02:01:11,160
Speaker 1: in indianapolis and, Begin coaching and that's how it came

2287
02:01:11,200 --> 02:01:14,920
Speaker 1: to be that he became the coach of The resurgent

2288
02:01:15,000 --> 02:01:18,240
Speaker 1: high School Of Shortridge high school And The, blue devils

2289
02:01:18,840 --> 02:01:21,760
Speaker 1: and so a team that, had players many of which

2290
02:01:21,760 --> 02:01:25,600
Speaker 1: had transferred from other high Schools again Shortridge, of school that,

2291
02:01:25,760 --> 02:01:27,720
Speaker 1: high school, middle school it's been a high school now

2292
02:01:27,760 --> 02:01:32,520
Speaker 1: for a number. Of, years again but you're building something

2293
02:01:32,600 --> 02:01:34,760
Speaker 1: there and you're getting kids to believe. In it and

2294
02:01:34,800 --> 02:01:36,840
Speaker 1: of course now with select schools where kids can go

2295
02:01:36,920 --> 02:01:40,440
Speaker 1: anywhere and the enrollment down and a number of schools.

2296
02:01:40,600 --> 02:01:44,520
Speaker 1: And Transfers but shortridge was able to build itself a

2297
02:01:44,560 --> 02:01:47,800
Speaker 1: basketball Team Behind, elijah wilson who's one of the leading

2298
02:01:47,840 --> 02:01:51,000
Speaker 1: scorers in. The area hurt his ankle a couple of,

2299
02:01:51,040 --> 02:01:56,080
Speaker 1: weeks ago but nearly twenty four points, a game good, SUPPORTING.

2300
02:01:56,080 --> 02:01:58,880
Speaker 1: Staff tj davis a really good player, For Them jeremy

2301
02:01:58,920 --> 02:02:02,200
Speaker 1: crawley a really good player. For them and they've got

2302
02:02:02,200 --> 02:02:07,000
Speaker 1: two games left in their, regular Season Two, perdue polytechnic

2303
02:02:07,640 --> 02:02:12,840
Speaker 1: they've got upcoming and then After that avon two games

2304
02:02:12,880 --> 02:02:16,400
Speaker 1: left and right now they stand at twelve. And ten

2305
02:02:16,760 --> 02:02:19,200
Speaker 1: so The Short Ridge, blue devils with a win in

2306
02:02:19,240 --> 02:02:22,360
Speaker 1: one of those last, two games has an opportunity to

2307
02:02:22,400 --> 02:02:27,920
Speaker 1: secure itself its first regular season winning record in over.

2308
02:02:27,960 --> 02:02:31,960
Speaker 1: A decade and that doesn't seem. Like much why is

2309
02:02:31,960 --> 02:02:33,520
Speaker 1: this guy on the radio talking about a team that

2310
02:02:33,560 --> 02:02:37,440
Speaker 1: can go thirteen. And eleven it's because of what. It

2311
02:02:37,520 --> 02:02:43,640
Speaker 1: represents it represents a group of players a, coach that

2312
02:02:44,640 --> 02:02:47,200
Speaker 1: in the, coaching standpoint a coach that simply had a

2313
02:02:47,280 --> 02:02:49,520
Speaker 1: dream and A vision i'd like to coach high school.

2314
02:02:49,560 --> 02:02:54,640
Speaker 1: Basketball someday players that played elsewhere But saw shortridge and

2315
02:02:54,720 --> 02:02:57,400
Speaker 1: said that might be an opportunity, For me and they

2316
02:02:57,440 --> 02:03:00,680
Speaker 1: came together collectively and began working. On it and now

2317
02:03:00,680 --> 02:03:03,120
Speaker 1: here they are with a chance to push their chest

2318
02:03:03,120 --> 02:03:05,480
Speaker 1: out a little bit for, their school to do something

2319
02:03:05,480 --> 02:03:07,520
Speaker 1: that has not been done in boys basketball in over,

2320
02:03:07,560 --> 02:03:10,400
Speaker 1: a decade in this the most sacred sport in this

2321
02:03:10,680 --> 02:03:14,440
Speaker 1: state and in the state's. Biggest city and it does

2322
02:03:14,520 --> 02:03:17,600
Speaker 1: so by doing it in a building with a proud

2323
02:03:17,680 --> 02:03:21,240
Speaker 1: history and a proud alumni base and a proud city

2324
02:03:21,720 --> 02:03:24,960
Speaker 1: that is everywhere, around It because shortridge would be as

2325
02:03:25,360 --> 02:03:27,920
Speaker 1: epicentered a high school as any you're going to Find.

2326
02:03:27,960 --> 02:03:31,640
Speaker 1: In indianapolis but it also has, within it within its

2327
02:03:31,680 --> 02:03:34,680
Speaker 1: walls a lot of kids that went to schools or

2328
02:03:34,720 --> 02:03:37,880
Speaker 1: came up in backgrounds where they began to question whether

2329
02:03:37,960 --> 02:03:40,840
Speaker 1: or not people believed in them the way they believed.

2330
02:03:40,880 --> 02:03:45,080
Speaker 1: In themselves and so to see that someone would come

2331
02:03:45,080 --> 02:03:48,600
Speaker 1: from out of state begin coaching, and, say no this

2332
02:03:48,720 --> 02:03:50,840
Speaker 1: is THE place i want, to be and players that

2333
02:03:50,880 --> 02:03:52,560
Speaker 1: would come there and say this is THE school i

2334
02:03:52,560 --> 02:03:55,400
Speaker 1: want to represent and to put together a common goal

2335
02:03:55,720 --> 02:03:58,040
Speaker 1: and be able to be now right on the cusp

2336
02:03:58,560 --> 02:04:01,560
Speaker 1: of putting a feather in the cap of something that

2337
02:04:01,600 --> 02:04:04,360
Speaker 1: hasn't been done for some time in. That sport and,

2338
02:04:04,400 --> 02:04:07,520
Speaker 1: that school to me is. Really special AND so i

2339
02:04:07,640 --> 02:04:11,000
Speaker 1: say To The, BLUE devils i tip, MY cap i

2340
02:04:11,040 --> 02:04:13,400
Speaker 1: hope and it. Doesn't matter they could go five hundred

2341
02:04:13,400 --> 02:04:16,040
Speaker 1: and go twelve. And twelve, either way it's. A victory

2342
02:04:16,280 --> 02:04:19,320
Speaker 1: it's a victory with a fine Player And elijah wilson

2343
02:04:19,360 --> 02:04:22,200
Speaker 1: coming off an ankle injury heading into, the postseason and

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Speaker 1: Now this is HOLD ON j andv will know the

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02:05:41,040 --> 02:05:42,840
Speaker 1: second time today he's going to have to answer this.

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Speaker 1: FOR me i always get confused. By this, the verve,

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Speaker 1: the verve the verb pipe over the verb pipe saying,

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Speaker 1: the freshman right.

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Speaker 2: They Did, From, lansing michigan.

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Speaker 1: Because, the verve which is a.

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Speaker 3: Great.

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Speaker 1: Man Yeah richard Ashcross, band uh the lead Singer. Of no,

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Speaker 1: hold on let me let me get who sings this?

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02:06:06,240 --> 02:06:09,280
Speaker 1: Closing time who's? This semisonic, THAT'S right i. Knew that

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Speaker 1: So The verve pipe And. The verve the lead singer

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Speaker 1: Of The verve pipe On his twitter, Account says i'm

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Speaker 1: Not The bittersweet, symphony, guy right because That's, the.

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Speaker 9: Verve right they would probably rather, be correct even with the,

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02:06:25,520 --> 02:06:29,360
Speaker 9: funds lost because correct they Sampled The rolling stones and

2385
02:06:29,440 --> 02:06:30,080
Speaker 9: didn't get paid.

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02:06:30,120 --> 02:06:34,400
Speaker 1: For it and you, know what THEY supposedly i read

2387
02:06:34,440 --> 02:06:38,400
Speaker 1: a thing about this supposedly way after, the fact and

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02:06:38,440 --> 02:06:43,280
Speaker 1: we're talking About, the verve which did and The The,

2389
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Speaker 1: bittersweet symphony the whatever you want to, call it the

2390
02:06:46,840 --> 02:06:49,240
Speaker 1: musical interlude. Of it it was sampled From the stones

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02:06:49,960 --> 02:06:54,200
Speaker 1: and they later settled, that apparently and and DID get

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Speaker 1: i don't know if they got The, full manti but

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Speaker 1: they got some.

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Speaker 9: Some cash what do you, Stand With, Lucky man that's a,

2395
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Speaker 9: great song, great, songs son it's a. Great song it's a.

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Speaker 1: GREAT album i saw he Opened for oasis and it, was,

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Speaker 1: all yeah it.

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Speaker 2: Was great that's a.

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Speaker 9: Great band great really is a great, nineties, band totally especially.

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Speaker 1: Right there what we got on tap?

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02:07:12,400 --> 02:07:15,560
Speaker 2: This weekend what are you and the you know what,

2402
02:07:15,680 --> 02:07:16,600
Speaker 2: that girl what are you my?

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02:07:16,680 --> 02:07:21,720
Speaker 1: GIRL doing i don't look USUAL that i have to ask.

2404
02:07:21,760 --> 02:07:25,840
Speaker 1: You that she lets. You know first tonight we're gonna

2405
02:07:25,840 --> 02:07:28,120
Speaker 1: go out somewhere And Watch. Indiana purdue and then tomorrow

2406
02:07:28,200 --> 02:07:31,000
Speaker 1: night we'll do, our usual which will be going out,

2407
02:07:31,000 --> 02:07:33,720
Speaker 1: for dinner doing something along those lines and listening to.

2408
02:07:33,760 --> 02:07:35,920
Speaker 1: The takeover And then sunday you Got the Pacers and

2409
02:07:35,960 --> 02:07:37,280
Speaker 1: MAVs nice At.

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Speaker 9: The, fieldhouse yeah that's a good weekend, for you, right there.

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02:07:40,880 --> 02:07:42,840
Speaker 1: It is and then the weekend, after that a week,

2412
02:07:42,840 --> 02:07:45,480
Speaker 1: from today everything gets Underway For. Indy cars so then

2413
02:07:45,520 --> 02:07:47,520
Speaker 1: things change a little bit in terms of. The schedule

2414
02:07:47,560 --> 02:07:49,680
Speaker 1: but what's on the big? Program today.

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Speaker 9: We're Busy, don fisher a voice Of the Hoosiers from

2416
02:07:52,320 --> 02:07:55,240
Speaker 9: mackie coming up here in the three, o'clock Hour usual.

2417
02:07:55,280 --> 02:07:58,040
Speaker 9: Friday stuff we've got girls semi state action throughout the

2418
02:07:58,080 --> 02:08:00,440
Speaker 9: state and a lot of local teams involved than. That

2419
02:08:00,480 --> 02:08:03,720
Speaker 9: too we'll Talk To bob lovel about That And dusty

2420
02:08:03,800 --> 02:08:09,480
Speaker 9: may Number one Michigan AND duke dc. Tomorrow night and

2421
02:08:09,880 --> 02:08:12,960
Speaker 9: this game is all a part of the grand scheme

2422
02:08:13,080 --> 02:08:17,600
Speaker 9: to what raise money. For nil it is a money

2423
02:08:17,760 --> 02:08:20,840
Speaker 9: generator is the reason why you see teams like this

2424
02:08:21,120 --> 02:08:23,840
Speaker 9: go outside of the norm of their conference and play.

2425
02:08:23,880 --> 02:08:25,880
Speaker 1: This time you're just gonna ask. About that it seems a,

2426
02:08:25,880 --> 02:08:29,720
Speaker 1: little odd. You, know YEAH somebody i Was talking.

2427
02:08:31,400 --> 02:08:31,840
Speaker 2: WHO was i?

2428
02:08:31,960 --> 02:08:35,000
Speaker 1: TALKING to i was Talking, to caleb who works in

2429
02:08:35,040 --> 02:08:36,680
Speaker 1: here in, the building and he was telling me that

2430
02:08:37,440 --> 02:08:41,200
Speaker 1: was it last weekend or this weekend was? The okay

2431
02:08:41,240 --> 02:08:42,560
Speaker 1: so What is? Duke?

2432
02:08:42,640 --> 02:08:44,760
Speaker 2: Ranked? What, six?

2433
02:08:45,320 --> 02:08:48,760
Speaker 1: Third? Third okay and then who are second and fourth

2434
02:08:49,200 --> 02:08:49,800
Speaker 1: in the rankings?

2435
02:08:49,880 --> 02:08:50,760
Speaker 2: Right now houston's?

2436
02:08:50,800 --> 02:08:51,040
Speaker 1: Number?

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Speaker 9: Two okay Who knows Houston in arizona matchup?

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Speaker 3: This?

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02:08:55,120 --> 02:08:56,160
Speaker 2: Weekend, Oh too that's what.

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Speaker 1: It is so this is the first time since nineteen

2441
02:09:00,840 --> 02:09:04,560
Speaker 1: two that, numbers, one, two three and four all have

2442
02:09:04,680 --> 02:09:07,640
Speaker 1: games amongst one another in. A weekend and the last time,

2443
02:09:07,680 --> 02:09:10,760
Speaker 1: IT happened i believe It Was indiana kansas At the

2444
02:09:10,880 --> 02:09:14,640
Speaker 1: dome on the same day or the same Weekend that

2445
02:09:15,560 --> 02:09:16,280
Speaker 1: Duke and michigan.

2446
02:09:16,320 --> 02:09:17,280
Speaker 2: Will play here's.

2447
02:09:17,280 --> 02:09:19,360
Speaker 9: What's WEIRD so i was talking to him kind of

2448
02:09:19,360 --> 02:09:22,800
Speaker 9: off the air a little bit earlier today in preparation for,

2449
02:09:22,880 --> 02:09:25,840
Speaker 9: the conversation and, he said, you know, my guys the

2450
02:09:25,880 --> 02:09:27,880
Speaker 9: guys on my team took a pay cut, to play

2451
02:09:28,160 --> 02:09:31,640
Speaker 9: which sounds really weird for a college basketball coach to say.

2452
02:09:31,760 --> 02:09:34,600
Speaker 9: It does but they took a pay cut to come

2453
02:09:35,360 --> 02:09:38,800
Speaker 9: and be Together. At MICHIGAN and i will say this about.

2454
02:09:38,800 --> 02:09:42,440
Speaker 9: His squad they look as together as anybody else, right

2455
02:09:42,480 --> 02:09:44,560
Speaker 9: now at least that's the last time we saw THEM

2456
02:09:44,600 --> 02:09:47,800
Speaker 9: a macki that is as together and talented as a

2457
02:09:47,840 --> 02:09:49,920
Speaker 9: team as we've. Seen it and that's not how they

2458
02:09:49,920 --> 02:09:51,400
Speaker 9: were described at the beginning of.

2459
02:09:51,440 --> 02:09:54,120
Speaker 1: The, Year yeah i'll tell you they are really Good

2460
02:09:54,200 --> 02:09:56,240
Speaker 1: though michigan. THEY are i got a lot of the

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Speaker 1: pieces that. Are necessary i'm Not certain john there's to Me.

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02:10:01,880 --> 02:10:01,920
Speaker 7: And.

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Speaker 1: MICHIGAN'S outstanding, I mean i'm not here to dispute that in,

2464
02:10:05,320 --> 02:10:08,040
Speaker 1: any way shape. Or form but the team In The

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02:10:08,040 --> 02:10:09,960
Speaker 1: big TEN that i just continue to look AT and

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Speaker 1: i think can make a really. Deep, run Yeah. IS

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Speaker 1: illinois I think, I agree.

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02:10:15,080 --> 02:10:19,960
Speaker 9: I can I Love brad underwood to uh.

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02:10:19,840 --> 02:10:22,040
Speaker 1: He he came ON when i Was At. Radio row

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02:10:22,120 --> 02:10:24,520
Speaker 1: you know it Is In. Radio row he came ON

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Speaker 1: when i Was At. Radio row he They had. Steven

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Speaker 1: f austin had just pulled some upset and, they're, like

2473
02:10:29,720 --> 02:10:31,480
Speaker 1: hey you want to talk To. Coach, jonnerwood, yeah, okay

2474
02:10:31,480 --> 02:10:35,560
Speaker 1: cool and he. Was GREAT but i just think defensively.

2475
02:10:35,600 --> 02:10:38,520
Speaker 1: They're good, but man they're their experience and they can

2476
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Speaker 1: shoot from. About anywhere got to.

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Speaker 9: Stay healthy boswell is back And stay akovich has. Been

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Speaker 9: injured so if you get all your. Health together here's

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Speaker 9: one of the best parts about you can Listen for DUSTY.

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Speaker 9: And i we're going to talk about how my my

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Speaker 9: best friend and neighbor, growing up remodeled.

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Speaker 4: His.

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Speaker 2: Bathroom, really yeah, that's great.

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Speaker 1: His bathroom his Bathroom, in indiana, his bathroom BATHROOM.

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Speaker 9: In, nr YEAH because, i said, you know WHEN do

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Speaker 9: I See david hayes's ass at every game behind? Your bench, she,

2487
02:11:05,200 --> 02:11:11,720
Speaker 9: goes well he's remodeling, my bathroom. That's why and by,

2488
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Speaker 9: the way That Same david hayes sent me a picture two.

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Speaker 9: Months ago he was clearing brush down by my mom's

2490
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Speaker 9: house and he almost cut his leg off of the chainsaw.

2491
02:11:20,680 --> 02:11:22,880
Speaker 1: And then there. Did right huh did you say another

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Speaker 1: guy did cut himself with a chainsaw? Down, there no

2493
02:11:24,680 --> 02:11:27,040
Speaker 1: That Is david hayes cut himself in. The chainsaw speaking

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2497
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