1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: Some people are saying that it is devastating. Others are 2 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: saying that it's in national interest. We're not talking about Iran. 3 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: Trump has signed an executive order invoking the Defense Production Act, 4 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: and this boosts the domestic production of glyphasate, which is 5 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 1: an herbicide. The administration said that it's important for national security, 6 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: military readiness, and food supply resilience. We're going to have 7 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: a little Maha conversation here, Okay, So Maha is angry 8 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 1: and disappointed. They say that a lot of the science 9 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 1: behind it groups glyphosate to cancer and other health concerns. 10 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: But there's a faction saying, yeah, but we need it 11 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: for our agg. 12 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 2: Look, the science is mixed on this and whether not 13 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 2: glyphasade is harmful or not. It's certainly one of the 14 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 2: big reasons why we can generate so many strong crops 15 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 2: out of an acre, because it helps manages it's an 16 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 2: herbicide and helps kill other weeds, and you know, that's 17 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 2: a reason why we can have such amazing, great food 18 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 2: production in this country. But what I appreciate most about 19 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 2: this is that we're actually having a conversation about it. 20 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 2: That's what I appreciate most about Donald Trump and RFK 21 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 2: Junior being the head of the Health and Human Services, so, 22 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:21,119 Speaker 2: you know, Secretary, for seventy five years, we've just kind 23 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 2: of feels like we've been just walking blindfolded through how 24 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 2: we consume our food and how we produce our food. 25 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 2: And the government puts out this awful food pyramid fifty 26 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 2: or sixty years ago that shows that we should be 27 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 2: eating grains above everything else, when actually it's probably not 28 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 2: the best thing for us. But it really does feel 29 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 2: like our food supply, how our food is manufactured in 30 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 2: this country probably not going in the right direction, and 31 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 2: nobody really wanted to talk about it, nobody wanted to 32 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 2: do anything about it. And this has been a big 33 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 2: part of RFK Junior and what he's advocated for for 34 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 2: decades now on the Democrat side of the party. So 35 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 2: I always give credit to Donald Trump for being able 36 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 2: to bring in RFK Junior to his cabinet despite the 37 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 2: fact that he is a not only a lifelong Democrat, 38 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 2: but comes from the most popular, well known family in 39 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:15,399 Speaker 2: Democrat history, the Kennedys, and bring him in with outside 40 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 2: opinions to challenge our beliefs. That's what you should be doing, 41 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 2: as it comes to every topic in the world, challenge 42 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 2: your own beliefs in it, revisit them. Am I sure 43 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 2: that this is what I believe? What about these others 44 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 2: they're saying things else Maybe they have a good point, 45 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 2: examine their information and then come to a better conclusion. 46 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 2: So again, whether or not glyfhasate is healthy or or 47 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 2: should be used in our food production, I don't know. 48 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 2: And by the way, the science is mixed on it. 49 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 2: But the wonderful thing about this is that we're actually having. 50 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: The conversation talking about it, yes, and talking about it 51 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: here in Indiana, where we know agriculture is such a 52 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: huge part of the economy. Now, there are a lot 53 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 1: of the Maha voters that are seen as a very 54 00:02:56,120 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 1: important part of the Trump base, the Republican movement and 55 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: Democrats are seeing this maybe as an opening because there's 56 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: a little bit of infighting about this topic within the party. 57 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: So there's some Democrats that are saying, uh, oh oh, 58 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 1: wait a second, we can we can take the opposite 59 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: side and sway some of these people. 60 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 2: Of course, and they'll obviously use any you know, crack 61 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 2: in the armor that they can within the Trump administration 62 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 2: for their own political benefits on this, but this is 63 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 2: part of a larger issue and it you've just never 64 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 2: had the conversation about it before. And so yes, I 65 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 2: expect the Democrats to do that. I expect them to 66 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 2: try and find their political angle on this for their 67 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 2: own benefit, but for our benefit, the American people, is 68 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 2: we're having this conversation, we're talking about it, and hopefully 69 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 2: we'll come to better conclusions at the end of the day. 70 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: Did you see that RFK Junior has a Maha themed 71 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: action figure? Now? 72 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 2: I did. 73 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: Yes, He's like a superhero style figure and he's battling 74 00:03:56,080 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: chronic disease. It's a there's a video of amount. It's like, 75 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: you know, classic toy action figure imagery. I mean it's 76 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: he's using a fun, fun way to try to get 77 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: his message out there to the most amount of people. 78 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was funny. I saw a clip of him. 79 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 2: He was on Joe Rogan not too long ago, and 80 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 2: Joe Rogan asked him what the biggest surprise was being 81 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 2: part of the Trump administration. And it was fascinating because 82 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 2: again he talked about how he's a lifelong Democrat from 83 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 2: the you know, you know, the the US version of 84 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 2: the monarchy for us in this country. The Kennedys and 85 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 2: talked about how surprised he was because he had gone 86 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 2: in expecting, you know, the democrat talking point. The Democrat 87 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 2: the Republicans would just sit around and talk about how 88 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 2: to screw the poor and you know, give all the 89 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 2: money and tax breaks to the rich and the corporations. 90 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 2: And he was really shocked about how that's not what 91 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 2: the conversation has been about. He was really surprised that 92 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 2: Republicans had this list of really big problems in front 93 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 2: of them and their only concern was how to solve 94 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 2: those big problems. And certainly the way our food has 95 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 2: been produced, the way we've consumed food in this country 96 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 2: for the last fifty or seventy five years, clearly there's 97 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 2: been a problem. The obesity problem in this country is 98 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 2: worse than any other place in the world. And so 99 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 2: having that conversation about it and bringing people in from 100 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 2: the outside. You have all the credit to President Trump 101 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 2: on this. Bringing in a Democrat like RFK Junior and 102 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 2: bringing him into his administration so that we can have 103 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 2: these conversations has been a huge win for all of us. 104 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: There was a new study you mentioned obesity there's a 105 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 1: new study that came out. I said, nearly six and 106 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:29,359 Speaker 1: ten women are projected to have some form of cardiovascular 107 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: disease by the year twenty fifty, and this is because 108 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 1: of diabetes and obesity. They're expected to increase as well. 109 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: More than twenty five percent of women may have diabetes 110 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: and sixty percent may be obese by mid century, and 111 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: high blood pressure on the rise as well, sixty percent 112 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 1: of women having hypertension. So it feels any if you 113 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: have to have an action figure, a little toy from 114 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 1: RFK Junior to bring a awareness to it, yeah, go 115 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: for it. Use any new medium you can to try 116 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 1: and break through. It seems like traditional public health messages 117 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 1: they're not working as well, and. 118 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 2: They haven't worked for the whole. 119 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 1: One big you know, it's all the same thing. It's 120 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: the food we're eating and the conversation about health and everything. 121 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, and like I said, it feels like we kind 122 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:27,039 Speaker 2: of have been sleep walking through nutrition for the last 123 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 2: seventy five to fifty years in this country and really 124 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 2: haven't spent a lot of time talking about it. I mean, 125 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 2: most of what it's been, especially in the eighties and nineties, 126 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 2: was a bunch of fear mongering for us. I remember 127 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 2: when I specifically remember this. I think this was in 128 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 2: the early nineties that you know, some health group came 129 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 2: out and they were against whole milk. Whole milk was 130 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 2: the worst thing, and they compared every time you have 131 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 2: a glass of whole milk, it's like eating three strips 132 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 2: of bacon, and it's the worst thing in the world 133 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 2: for you, and you gotta switch to skim milk. These 134 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 2: were the things we were fighting about, Stupid stuff like that. No, 135 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 2: can we have a real conversation at a much higher 136 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 2: level that goes into how is our food production being 137 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 2: done in this country, what sort of things are being 138 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 2: done in that process, and how is it affect people 139 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 2: when they ultimately end up eating that? And so that's why, 140 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 2: and you talked about it too. The messaging hasn't worked, 141 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 2: and it hasn't worked in a long long time. So 142 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 2: if we've got to get the message. 143 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: Out, the messaging has also changed, as you mentioned, you know, 144 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: one day eggs are bad for you, one day they're 145 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: good for you. One day whole milk is bad for you, 146 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: one day it's good for you. 147 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 2: And that's been so frustrating for people because obviously we're 148 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 2: not food scientists, we have no idea. We're relying on 149 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 2: these experts to tell us these things. So again, massive 150 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 2: props to President Trump forgetting RFK Junior in there so 151 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 2: that we can at least have this conversation about our 152 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 2: food supply, well food supply. 153 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, it's a lot 154 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: about personal responsibility, not only from diet and exercise, but 155 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: regular checkups as well. I mean, you know, we've seen 156 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: this tidal wave of avoidable diseases, so you have to 157 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: empower individuals as well oh control their own health. Look, 158 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:10,679 Speaker 1: I'm all advocate for themselves. That's a huge one. 159 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 2: I'm one hundred percent of true believer when it comes 160 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 2: to personal responsibility. The government is not going to save you. 161 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 2: Nobody is coming to save you. If you want to 162 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 2: be healthy, that responsibility is on you. However, the government's 163 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 2: role in information has really sucked the last fifty years 164 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 2: about this, and we really haven't gotten good, consistent information 165 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 2: on how to do this. And so that's the role 166 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 2: that I think the government needs to play on this. 167 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:38,839 Speaker 2: Give us as much sound scientific information about our health, 168 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 2: about how our food is processed as possible that's the baseline. 169 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 2: Then it's up to us to not sit there with 170 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 2: a big box of donuts and cramming that in your 171 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 2: face every single night. And it's up to us to 172 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 2: not sit around on the couch all day and actually 173 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 2: get up and move around and get outside and have 174 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 2: some exercise. Absolutely, it all comes Ultimately it's personal responsibility. 175 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 2: But having some more grounded scientific information a good thing 176 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 2: from the public.