1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: Let's get to I guess I'll start with last night. Obviously, 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: the return of Benedict matherin probably a tailor two has there. 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 1: You know, both teams down some key personnel. Uh, Ultimately, 4 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: what do you point to is kind of the whole 5 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: being you know, too big to dig out of. Despite 6 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:16,600 Speaker 1: Mathering's efforts there in the third and fourth. 7 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:23,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, we've had struggles really on both sides 8 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 2: of the ball, Dad said, you know, in looking at 9 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 2: the stats and looking at the overall picture, we got 10 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 2: to look for positives. Positives were you know, we out 11 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 2: rebounded him for the game, US a great rebounding team. 12 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 2: We end up reinviting him by a couple and then uh, 13 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 2: you know we won the second half by a point, 14 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 2: and you know Ben's return and him getting into a rhythm, 15 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 2: particularly in the fourth quarter, was a big part of that. 16 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 2: And uh, you know things are things are rough right now. 17 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 2: But uh, the guys had a good spirit last night. 18 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 2: We didn't play well, but we hung together and we 19 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 2: got to keep doing that. 20 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 1: When you mentioned the struggles on both ends, right now, 21 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: do you see one side of the floor contributing more 22 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: to the others struggles? You know, his defense leading to 23 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: the poor shooting numbers we see vice versa. Has some 24 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: of the poor shooting led to the defensive struggles or 25 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: do you think it's pretty balanced. 26 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 2: I you know, it's probably a little more tipped one 27 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 2: way than the other. But it's it's been it's been 28 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 2: both sides of the ball. That's it's been tough. But look, 29 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 2: there's a lot of a lot of excuses that can 30 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 2: be made. We've gotta we've got to ignore circumstance and 31 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 2: just work at doing better. 32 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 3: Rick, You've talked about that a lot throughout your career, 33 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 3: not making excuse of ignoring circumstances. So what is that 34 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 3: balance like when the reality is, Okay, we don't have 35 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 3: our normal rotation of guys, but we saw have games 36 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 3: to play and ultimately want to win. 37 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it comes down to, you know, what your 38 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 2: focus is. Our focus has got to be very much 39 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 2: on what's happening right now and what's about to happen 40 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 2: next when it comes to games. You know, in the 41 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 2: in the Toronto game, one of the things that was 42 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,239 Speaker 2: I thought difficult about that game was we had a 43 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 2: very good start. I mean, we're up ten halfway through 44 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 2: the first quarter and then we we allowed the lead 45 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 2: to go away with some controllable things, unforced turnovers, some 46 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 2: decisions that needed to be better, et cetera, et cetera. 47 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 2: And you know, right now, you know we're we're trying 48 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 2: to get back on the on the winning side of things. 49 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 2: A big, a big part of being successful in the 50 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 2: NBA is good starts and you know, finding a way 51 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 2: to win the first quarter. You know, the stats will 52 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 2: tell you that the best way to win an NBA 53 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 2: game is to be ahead, ahead going into the fourth quarter, 54 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 2: and the best way to do that is to win 55 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 2: the first quarter. The NBA is much more of a 56 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 2: first quarter league than a fourth quarter league. I mean, 57 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 2: the statistics just say that. So look, start's got to 58 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 2: be better overall. Players got to be better, defense has 59 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 2: got to be tighter, communication has got to be has 60 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 2: got to be really good, and you know, then we've 61 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 2: got to get the ball in the hole. 62 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 3: Rick to follow up defensively. There's been some slippets there 63 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 3: for your team, and often I've been there in the 64 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 3: media where it's like, oh, they haven't tried hard enough, 65 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 3: where's the effort? And I feel like effort is always 66 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 3: attributed to defense, but not offense. There are some tactical things. 67 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 3: So what things do you look at defensively for your 68 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 3: ball club to say, here's what we can be better 69 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 3: to get stops here. 70 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 2: Well, they answer to that is transition defense. And we 71 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 2: gave up a ton of transition points against Toronto. We 72 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 2: made some adjustments for the Detroit game. We did better 73 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 2: against Detroit. Well, look, if you know your defense starts 74 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 2: with the shot that you take, and you know your 75 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 2: your assault on the offensive boards, and it's very important 76 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 2: that everybody is doing exactly what they're supposed to do. 77 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 2: If you're supposed to crash, crash, and if you're supposed 78 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 2: to be back, be back, and so you know we've 79 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 2: we've tried to clean things up there, and then you 80 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 2: know the first three steps back in transition. I think 81 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 2: the stats will tell pretty much any NBA team that 82 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 2: they're going to do better defensively when they're guarding a 83 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 2: team in the half court rather than in transition. So 84 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 2: the huge chunk of points we gave up in the 85 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 2: first eight seconds against Toronto is an area where we're 86 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 2: we're focusing heavily, and we got to do better. 87 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: It's a voice of Rick Carlisle he's with us here 88 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 1: on the payloss Slickers, Hotline, Pacers, Hornets back inside of 89 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 1: gamebridge Field House coming up tomorrow night, Coach, some of 90 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: the shooting numbers are pretty historic, obviously not in the 91 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: positive light there. Do you feel like the do you 92 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 1: feel like the the the the equality of the looks 93 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: has matched the poor shooting numbers. 94 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 2: At times. At times we've had some very good looks 95 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 2: at haven't gone down and in most cases, you know, 96 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 2: we we need to try to get better shots. And 97 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 2: so you know, as you as you mentioned early on here, 98 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 2: the you know, the the effect that defense has on 99 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 2: offenses is very importan and vice versa. So yeah, it's 100 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:08,359 Speaker 2: it's a it's a tough stretch and we just gotta 101 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 2: we just gotta work work at improving and just simply 102 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 2: be better. 103 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 1: Well, a few guys that has been healthy for you 104 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 1: here to start the season has been Jaris Walker. You 105 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: use the word force quite often with him in our 106 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: off season conversations in that department, I guess, the the 107 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 1: forced department. What have you seen from Jaris here this season? 108 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 2: Well, this is a this is an amazing opportunity for 109 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 2: him right now, you know, the chance to you know 110 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 2: he's had a significant stretch of games that he started, 111 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 2: you know, when he hasn't started, you know, sometimes it's 112 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 2: been through the matchup or matchup stuff or whatever. But 113 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 2: he's he gets in the game quickly and as a 114 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 2: as a lot of leash, you know. So what we 115 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 2: need to see there is hard running, rebounding defense, you know, 116 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 2: simple decisions on offense and make the simple play. 117 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: You know. 118 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 2: It's yeah, I think the Toronto game was was a 119 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 2: good example of I think what he's naturally good at 120 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 2: is rebounding. I think had eight or nine rebounds in 121 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 2: the Toronto game. He's done some good things with attacking 122 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 2: the paint, attacking space. We know we can pass the ball. 123 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 2: We know he can shoot the ball. You know, right now, 124 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 2: when you're undermanned, everybody has more responsibility than the than 125 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 2: they probably should. And as a coaching staff, our job 126 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 2: is to try to alleviate that as best we can. 127 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 2: Make sure guys aren't trying too hard to do too 128 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 2: much and really focus on the simple things. And I 129 00:07:56,400 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 2: think with with Jaris, it starts with defending and rebounding 130 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 2: and it builds up from there. 131 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 3: Again, we have Rick Carlile PACER's head coach joining us 132 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 3: on the Payless Liquors hotline. Rick going back to Benedict 133 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 3: for a second here, we know how confident he is 134 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 3: as a player and what he can do as a scorer. 135 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 3: How much do you think his shot creation and just 136 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 3: the ability to get his own look can help alleviate 137 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 3: some pressure on other guys when it comes to helping 138 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 3: the flow of the rest of your offense, because you know, 139 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 3: if push comes to shove, that's someone who can still 140 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 3: get you a pretty good look. 141 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 2: Well we need him, that's pretty clear. And yeah, yeah, 142 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:44,559 Speaker 2: I mean it's it's shot creation, it's the way that 143 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 2: he stretches the floor with his ability to shoot long range. 144 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 2: I've been I've been very pleased with his shot selection 145 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 2: in a lot of cases. I mean, he's spacing the 146 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 2: floor better, He's finding this base on the floor to 147 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 2: release the shots of the shots that he's very good at. 148 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 2: And we haven't seen him a whole lot this year. 149 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 2: I mean this is only the third game he's played, 150 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 2: but his awareness of the floor has got better and 151 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 2: he's passing the ball more effectively all the time. So yeah, 152 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 2: definitely need more scoring. You know, early in the year, 153 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 2: in the first couple of games he was he was 154 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 2: taking the hard matchups to start games. You know, he 155 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:33,079 Speaker 2: was guarding SGA and he was he was guarding some 156 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 2: of the better players. And so as he returns to play, 157 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:40,079 Speaker 2: we're gonna need him to be a very good player, 158 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:42,319 Speaker 2: not only offensively, but on the defensive side of the 159 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,719 Speaker 2: ball as well. And uh, you know, when he was 160 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,439 Speaker 2: drafted here, he talked about the fact that, you know, 161 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 2: he wanted to be pushed to be great on both 162 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:51,439 Speaker 2: sides of the ball. And this is this is a 163 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 2: great opportunity for him to help us, to help his 164 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 2: teammates and truly work at getting better. 165 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,959 Speaker 3: Last one on Mathering and I have to appreciate his 166 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 3: confidence no matter what. Reading a story from Dustin de 167 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:11,199 Speaker 3: Pierrek this morning Indie Star, and Matherin said, according to Dustin, 168 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:13,319 Speaker 3: why can't we win ten games in a row? And 169 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 3: you know when he says stuff like that, he's dead serious. 170 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 3: So when you have someone who's as confident as Mathering, 171 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 3: how much does that help when times are hard? And 172 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:24,959 Speaker 3: it has to be sort of this intrinsic motivation from 173 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 3: players to go out there and play hard, even if 174 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 3: things might look a little bleak. Because you know, Mathern 175 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 3: doesn't care who it is. He's gonna go out there 176 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:34,439 Speaker 3: and think he can probably win anything. 177 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 2: Well, I think I just answered this question. We need him, 178 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 2: you know, we need him back, and we need him 179 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 2: in it, and it's great to have him back. And 180 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 2: you know, the return to play stuff is is challenging too, 181 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,719 Speaker 2: because you know, we'll take the guy that's been out 182 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 2: for three and a half weeks and throw him in 183 00:10:56,559 --> 00:11:00,040 Speaker 2: there for you know, thirty five or forty minutes. The 184 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 2: great thing last night was that, and you know, the 185 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 2: way the game was going, you know, all of a sudden, 186 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 2: he had four fouls in the third quarter, and you know, 187 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 2: I left him in because I thought it was important, 188 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 2: and he tried to get some kind of rhythm going. 189 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:17,839 Speaker 2: He hit a couple of shots early in the fourth 190 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 2: as as you guys saw, and did get it going. 191 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 2: And then you know, at one point he's playing pretty 192 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:26,959 Speaker 2: early in the fourth quarter, I think, with five fouls, 193 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 2: you know. And so anyway, right now, right now, we've 194 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 2: got to focus on little things. We've got to look 195 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:39,679 Speaker 2: for positives, and the pretty significant positive is having him back. 196 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: Ken PACER's hornets coming up tomorrow night just a couple 197 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:44,319 Speaker 1: of minutes left here with her. Carlile, I appreciate his 198 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: time and flexibility here on this Tuesday morning, coach. Yesterday 199 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:51,599 Speaker 1: we played some Pascal Siakam audio. I believe it was 200 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,439 Speaker 1: after the game on Saturday night, and you know, I've 201 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: been rather blown away by his leadership over the last 202 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: few years. This year, I assume it's a different type 203 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:02,679 Speaker 1: of leadership, but I thought the words were pretty strong 204 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: Saturday night and describing the start to this season specifically 205 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: with Pascal. You know, the numbers are obvious, but maybe 206 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,079 Speaker 1: what have you seen behind the scenes from a leadership 207 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: standpoint this year. 208 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's been great. You know, you can't say enough 209 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 2: about his approach, and he's been patient, he cares. I mean, 210 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 2: there's there's certainly an element of frustration there and you 211 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 2: can you can since that when he talks about how 212 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,319 Speaker 2: difficult it is to have this kind of a start. 213 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 2: But yesterday, you know, in our prep session in the 214 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 2: morning and during the game, even when it was really difficult, 215 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 2: you know, he was he was staying very positive, very encouraging. 216 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 2: And right now we have to we have to work 217 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 2: at being a very well connected team, even though things 218 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 2: are tough, and you know that that can be a 219 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 2: very difficult task. But he's he's a big part of 220 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 2: our ability to continue to do that even though things 221 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 2: are tough. 222 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: Coachell end of this. You know, you mentioned a few 223 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: weeks back, you know, about your history in the league, 224 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: and I think I ask you something along the lines of, 225 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 1: you know, have you ever dealt with this type of attrition? 226 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: Available bodies, et cetera, et cetera, And you did reference 227 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:20,199 Speaker 1: the brawl, and you've mentioned how the NBA can be, 228 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: you know, such a humbling league. Have you ever, I guess, 229 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: in your thirty plus years of coaching, been a part 230 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: of something like this from a whether it's an available 231 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: bodies or just a general start to the season like 232 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: you've had this year. 233 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 2: We probably not. Probably not, But you know with with 234 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 2: this kind of adversity comes opportunity. We got to find 235 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 2: the opportunity. As I mentioned, we've got to continue to 236 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 2: find things to be positive about and not kid ourselves 237 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 2: about how I think we have to uh, how deep 238 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:04,079 Speaker 2: we have to dig, you know to have successes, so 239 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:09,319 Speaker 2: touch stretch are you know? Our fans have been have 240 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 2: been great. They've given us great support even though it's 241 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,839 Speaker 2: been difficult, and uh we're going to continue to have 242 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 2: to lean on them and lean on each other. 243 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: Back in front of the home fans tomorrow night again. 244 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: Pacers and hornets, seven o'clock tip inside of gamebridge Field House, Coach, 245 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: I know it was a long night, so we appreciate 246 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: the time as always. 247 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 2: Okay, thanks guys sticking here.