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Speaker 2: Well? I quite frankly, Hammer, I'm very worried about how

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Speaker 2: next thirty days without that gas tax income that's generated

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Speaker 2: deal was made with Donald Trump and Iran. The straight

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Speaker 2: but a thirty day holiday as it were for the

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Speaker 2: gas tax announced by Governor Braun today, I just don't

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Speaker 1: My biggest concern is what's going to happen to our

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Speaker 1: these things. Nige like great Now we're going to get

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Speaker 1: because it's always the school corpse anytime, albeit kind of

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Speaker 1: you must want little Johnny to be shot in the hallways.

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Speaker 1: How are we supposed to pay for our new football field,

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Speaker 1: we supposed to pay for all of these things? Were

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Speaker 1: cut to the bare bone. We've got all of our

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Speaker 1: admins that make six figures, that play on Facebook all day.

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Speaker 1: What are we supposed to do with them?

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Speaker 2: Top five highest gas taxes in the nation. I believe

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, And we're still in the top five in

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Speaker 1: So the governor was asked earlier today when he was

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Speaker 2: Oh no, once the government's got that money, Republicans, Democrats,

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Speaker 1: No none whatsoever. So thirty days after that the governor

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Speaker 1: about you do what every family has to do, make

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Speaker 3: That's it. It's not that complicated.

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Speaker 1: Two weeks cease fire allegedly in effect here Nige with

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Speaker 3: Earlier today there was a press briefing.

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Speaker 4: President Trump forged this moment, Iron begged for this ceasefire,

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Speaker 4: morning a big day for world peace. Iran wants it

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Speaker 4: to happen. They've had enough. Operation Epic Fury was a

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Speaker 4: military victory by any measure. Epic fury decimated Iran's military

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Speaker 2: It's pretty amazing, it is.

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Speaker 1: And now we wait, Right, so Saturday in Pakistan is

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Speaker 1: Like what if the Iranians keep getting squirrely in the strait?

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Speaker 2: Well, I gotta be honest with you, it's not going

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Speaker 2: and with my bad knee, I shouldn't be throwing anybody,

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Speaker 2: right right, it's a quote fairstpeople is that they are.

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Speaker 1: War Department, we did our job.

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Speaker 4: Now we have a chance at real peace and a

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Speaker 4: real deal. The War Department, for now, for now has

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Speaker 4: nobody makes a better deal than President Trump. To the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this thing isn't over yet, But talks are good.

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Speaker 1: Like this little cease fire, if you want to call

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Speaker 1: By eight pm, the president folded it. There's not going

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Speaker 2: Was going to nuke the Iranians. He's going to end

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Speaker 2: civilization as we know at twenty fifth Amendment, remove him immediately.

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Speaker 2: Now we're saying he didn't nook the Iranians. Taco Taco

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Speaker 1: A top always chickens out, trump os chickens out. The

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Speaker 1: eight am, and now I'm social media upset that he

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Speaker 3: Never Trumper's yesterday the hypocrisy.

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Speaker 1: Was loaded, and it just floors me. Eight am, he's

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Speaker 2: The point you were making earlier about people that don't

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Speaker 2: that Donald Trump is making a deal, not a deal,

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Speaker 2: We don't know who exactly they're negotiating with. I'm talking

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Speaker 2: about Kushner and Wikoff. But now the same people that

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Speaker 1: Trump always chickens out, like that's their cool term. Once

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Speaker 1: the ground insurrection taco, Like that's what they do. They

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Speaker 1: CBS was like, we've got to cut bait. So let's

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Speaker 1: compare and contrast Stephen Colbert's thoughts on oh, I don't

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Speaker 1: know the price of oil, because that's a hot topic

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Speaker 1: right now. The price of gas from last Night's program

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Speaker 5: Somehow President Businessman didn't see all this coming. Reportedly, this

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Speaker 5: weekend's oil price fight caught White House staffers off guard.

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Speaker 5: According to one, it was insane. It absolutely surprised the administration. Really,

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Speaker 5: you were surprised that bombing the place the oil comes

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Speaker 5: buy our game, asked from a war criminal two guys

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Speaker 5: Saudi Arabia. But it's gonna cost Since the invasion, oil

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Speaker 1: don't want to miss this. It's the Hammer and Nigel Show.

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Speaker 2: It's not with THEE The Hammer and Nigel Show. Hello,

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Speaker 1: Investigative reporter and host of the Tony Kennet Cast and

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four winner of the JD Vans Lookingike Contest,

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Speaker 1: Tony Kennett joins us my man, how are you, gentlemen?

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Speaker 7: Is one of the only white men in his thirties

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Speaker 7: it's a privilege to have won such an award, and

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Speaker 2: Congratulations.

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Speaker 1: So let's talk a little bit about your famous doppelganger,

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Speaker 1: the Vice President, along with Jared Kushner and Witko, they're

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Speaker 1: going to be going over to Pakistan for a little

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Speaker 1: the last twenty four hours, Tony, the quote unquote cease fire.

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Speaker 3: What's your overall perspective?

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Speaker 7: I mean, my overall perspective is sitting back and watching

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Speaker 1: I don't know guys.

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Speaker 7: At some point, I think that when you see Trump

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Speaker 7: you kind of start to expect things. Trump's saying, you know,

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Speaker 1: And then starting a little of it.

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Speaker 7: Then the Iranian or at least President Pajecki Stannard whatever

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Speaker 2: I certainly don't know.

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Speaker 7: He got a little chicken, and from what I've heard

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Speaker 1: Right at eight am yesterday, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, it was

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Speaker 1: I can't believe there's not going to be genocide. Like

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Speaker 3: I can't believe he didn't do it.

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Speaker 7: I really appreciate that because it shows how little of

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Speaker 7: Trump is gonna do something and I could cure cancer

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Speaker 7: and they wouldn't clap, they won't stand. And this is

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Speaker 7: where we are again. Do you want us to go

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 7: Well, Trump brings in the negotiation tactic again. It's the

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Speaker 1: The guy is.

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Speaker 7: It's exhausting, honestly, you know the social media sphere of

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Speaker 7: That's worth a couple of yuckanits.

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Speaker 2: I'll do that.

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Speaker 1: We knew this was going to happen, right, like anybody

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Speaker 1: But people on the YouTube chat, people on Twitter, they

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Speaker 7: We went from the combat search and rescue experts, then

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Speaker 1: Then they put on their.

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Speaker 7: you guys noticed this? On social media? You'll post something

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Speaker 1: And what did you just google? No one knows what

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Speaker 1: There's a guy like right now on the YouTube chat

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Speaker 1: right now. Talks are progress, Talks are okay. There's a

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Speaker 1: I consider that to be processed. But people hate Donald

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Speaker 7: Look, I'm as much a fan of the colonoscopy contortionists

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Speaker 3: But there are talks.

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Speaker 1: Though right now, right, and I feel like talks are progressed.

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Speaker 1: This is better than planes between shot and out of

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Speaker 7: There are talks between President Poseekon and the United States,

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Speaker 1: The besiege.

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Speaker 7: I think that's what might be trying to occur here,

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Speaker 2: And Himmer mentioned these guys at the beginning. We're talking

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Speaker 2: instrumental in what's going on right now with Iran? Are

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Speaker 2: they being I mean they're having some success, correct, I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's absolutely true.

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Speaker 7: I Steve Whitkoff brings the carrot and then Trump is

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Speaker 7: peeking over the horizon with the stick going you want to.

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Speaker 1: See how this feels as a suppository.

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Speaker 7: And I think that's genuinely that the carrot gets smaller

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Speaker 7: every time you come to the table.

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Speaker 1: This is Trump literally.

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Speaker 7: Has done this exact same thing for thirty five forty years.

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Speaker 7: And I don't even like all the decisions the man makes.

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Speaker 7: You know, that's not a requirement. But it's not as

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Speaker 7: though he's playing some brand new strategy we've ever seen.

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Speaker 7: When Bobby Knight strolled up to the court, it was

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Speaker 7: the exact same press every time because it worked, and

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Speaker 7: Trump is the exact same way come win or lose,

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Speaker 7: you know, hell or high water, sunshine or rain in

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Speaker 7: the administration.

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Speaker 1: And Tony as a consumer of all things media, I'm

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Speaker 1: going to play you a little clip that was on

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Speaker 1: Lawrence O'Donnell's program on MS NOW last night. The artist

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Speaker 1: formerly known as ms NBC. He's very upset at Pete Hegsith,

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Speaker 1: not because of a strategy, but because that's something he

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Speaker 1: said in regards to that missing fighter pilot.

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Speaker 9: That brilliant rescue was described by the Secretary of Defense

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Speaker 9: and by General Dan Kine, Theairman of the Joint Chiefs

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Speaker 9: of Staff, as a longstanding American military rule of never

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Speaker 9: leaving anyone behind.

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Speaker 1: We leave no man behind.

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Speaker 9: That is, of course, the old school version of the idea,

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Speaker 9: back when only men flew American military planes.

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Speaker 2: Oh boy.

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Speaker 9: General dan Kine, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff,

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Speaker 9: put it this way, we leave no one behind. The

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Speaker 9: General knows, unlike Pete Hegseath, that that could have been

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Speaker 9: a woman they were trying to rescue, and it might

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Speaker 9: be a woman the next time.

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Speaker 1: So he's very upset that Pete Hegzith said no man

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Speaker 1: left behind. What he should have said, no people left behind.

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Speaker 7: Tony, the pro clutching throughout the last couple of weeks

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Speaker 7: has been just the gayest, saddest nonsense I've heard in

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Speaker 7: my entire life. We all know again, this isn't some

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Speaker 7: brand new, super duper secret of the political sphere. You

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Speaker 7: guys do know that mankind means both men and women

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Speaker 7: like it's part of the same species.

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Speaker 1: Everyone knows this. It's good Lord, I just remember that,

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Speaker 1: remember when that was classic and watching Classic, Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 7: Every time we have someone come out to do this

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Speaker 7: little social media or she's my social warrior, little struggle session,

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Speaker 7: I'm reminded how fortunate I am that Kamala Harris is

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Speaker 7: currently not in charge of the country, this kind where

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Speaker 7: decisions in the military are made based on skirts and

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Speaker 7: chest feeding instead of actual military competency, because again, that's

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Speaker 7: the only thing that matters. Not he's then we leave

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Speaker 7: no man behind, clearly because Trump fired Bondy, he's going

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Speaker 7: to abandon women in Iran. No, no, no, that was

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Speaker 7: the Biden administration.

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Speaker 2: Who hammer honest question, you too, Tony? Who would watch

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Speaker 2: that and say to themselves, great point, Larry, that is

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Speaker 2: just a amazing, outstanding insight.

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Speaker 1: That's even better though, when you were yelling stop the hammering.

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Speaker 1: I like this better. I really Again.

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Speaker 7: So, I was having a conversation with a kind of

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Speaker 7: like an advertiser the other day who wanted to air

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Speaker 7: something on the show, and I asked him a question

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Speaker 7: you probably shouldn't ask when you're negotiating on ads, which is,

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Speaker 7: why would you even want to advertise with me. I mean,

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Speaker 7: come on, why would you even waste your time? And

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Speaker 7: the answer is we're getting better ratings than some of

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Speaker 7: these major shows. And as much as I'd love to

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Speaker 7: claim that, you know, we're all such amazing and talented broadcasters,

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Speaker 7: our competition sucks so bad. They are whining about the

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Speaker 7: phrase no man left behind. I wouldn't want to advertise

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Speaker 7: on that show. You couldn't get my product within a

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Speaker 7: million feet of that show unless I'm selling police tape.

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Speaker 7: What's coming up on your show tonight, Tony, Well, we're

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Speaker 7: returning from a record setting show yesterday to talk a

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Speaker 7: little bit about Abigail Spanberger giving school teachers red flag ooh,

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Speaker 7: gun confiscation law authority. And then, of course my personal

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Speaker 7: favorite this one, lady ate so much at one of

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Speaker 7: the sushi restaurants that they had to shut the place

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Speaker 7: down and they tried to sewer for overeating.

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Speaker 1: Now it's not very king news, but you know that is.

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Speaker 1: It's hard hitting journalism. Find him on social media at

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Speaker 1: the Tonas and at tonight seven pm the Tony Kinnick

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Speaker 1: Cast right after our show, Tony, thank you, you guys

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Speaker 1: are the best.

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Speaker 2: Ah. My name is Nigel Jason Hammer right over there

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Speaker 2: with a very special in studio guest.

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Speaker 1: Has a great podcast called Those ash Holes. I always

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Speaker 1: have to make sure I say that properly so I

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Speaker 1: don't get yelled at ash holes as in cigarette ash

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Speaker 1: I love it, but prior to that, it was kind

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Speaker 1: of a badass that would jump out of planes for

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Speaker 1: the United States and military.

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Speaker 3: Brian Alvi joins us, my man, how are you?

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Speaker 8: What's up?

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Speaker 1: Guys?

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Speaker 8: You get yell definitely a heavy hit is on.

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Speaker 1: A sh of ash holes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, A military correspondent of the Hammer and n IDE,

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Speaker 2: that's right, sure, yeah, and proudly affiliated with you guys,

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Speaker 2: very proudly. Long time, long time.

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Speaker 8: You guys have been so good to me for so long.

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Speaker 8: I love you guys.

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Speaker 10: You started off helping me with my non for profit

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Speaker 10: for Better as a Warrior one ten and it just

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Speaker 10: everything has just gone unbelievably well over the last few years.

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Speaker 1: We like to bring you in when we've got military

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Speaker 1: stuff going on, and lo and behold, there.

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Speaker 3: Is some stuff happening here.

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Speaker 1: We've got a little I'm using air quotes cease fire

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Speaker 1: happening right now between the United States and Iran. Even

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Speaker 1: though looks like Israel, Iran, Lebanon. It's still game on

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Speaker 1: as usual. Yeah, straight of horror meuse. Some say it's open,

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Speaker 1: some say it's closed. Before we get into the nuts

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Speaker 1: and bolts and different angles of everything going on, just

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Speaker 1: your overall perspective on what you've seen just the last

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Speaker 1: twenty four hours.

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Speaker 10: Uh, I am, I I am. My My red line

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Speaker 10: in the sand I'm drawing is optimism. I'm optimistic.

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 10: My big thing is keeping conventional forces out of being

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Speaker 10: in an occupying force in Iran. That's my hard line

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Speaker 10: I'm not crossing.

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Speaker 3: Is this progress?

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Speaker 10: I guess it is if they if Iran holds to

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Speaker 10: this absolutely and I and I am unbelievably.

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Speaker 8: Optimistic that they will.

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Speaker 10: I hope they are able to work things out in

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Speaker 10: the next two weeks, work through some things.

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Speaker 8: I think. You know, there is the two little the

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Speaker 8: factors on both sides.

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Speaker 10: Will will they actually pull back and allow travel through

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Speaker 10: the straight?

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Speaker 8: You know, and and and you know everybody playing home

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Speaker 8: and lite.

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Speaker 10: You know, I think we get about we have about

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Speaker 10: the US has about two.

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Speaker 8: Percent of oil coming through that straight.

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Speaker 10: So it's it's more China is the biggest benefactor that straight,

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Speaker 10: followed closely by Indians, so many others. I mean, you've

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Speaker 10: got the UAE, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain and everybody. They have

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Speaker 10: a lot at stake there in their direct neighbors.

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Speaker 1: So you know, the market seemed like he was pretty

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Speaker 1: fired up about the news of it opening up because

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Speaker 1: last night at eight o'clock, once the story broke, ceasefire,

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Speaker 1: like the price of oil per barrel went way down.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it didn't look like that. When I went to pump.

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Speaker 10: You always hate pump cuts off automatically one hundred dollars,

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Speaker 10: you know, whether you're full or not. Is like, you know,

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Speaker 10: that's a bittersweet feeling, like okay, a't at least it's

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Speaker 10: the bleeding stop. But you know, I really look to

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Speaker 10: you know, if things are gonna go well there, we

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Speaker 10: need those immediate neighbors that benefit from the most UAE,

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Speaker 10: Saudi Arabia, Bahrain and all them to actually actively participate

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Speaker 10: with the United States in that.

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Speaker 2: Trump's whole point, isn't it. Okay, we're gonna do the

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Speaker 2: lions share, We're gonna do the heavy lifting. But after that,

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Speaker 2: all right, we're just gonna leave it to you guys

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Speaker 2: over here on a surface.

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Speaker 10: On the surface, it doesn't make any sense that China

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Speaker 10: would vote against it, consider they're the biggest benefactor.

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Speaker 8: That's straight.

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Speaker 10: But China is notoriously four centuries pun intended with this.

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Speaker 10: They play the long game and this gives them a

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Speaker 10: lot of strategic leverage by playing it this way, even

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Speaker 10: though it's going to hurt them in the short term.

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Speaker 10: Long term, if they can get more influence in that area,

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Speaker 10: that is going to be very advantageous for them. So

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Speaker 10: I want Trump to keep leaning in on them to

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Speaker 10: be a partner on this. They need to be a

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Speaker 10: partner on this. They need to help and the you

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Speaker 10: know again, I mean everybody, everybody is in front of

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Speaker 10: us on the benefits of that straight I mean, I know,

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Speaker 10: we get a lot of oil for them at least,

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Speaker 10: but we don't get a lot coming through that area.

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Speaker 8: We don't.

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Speaker 1: And let's be on a Saturday is a long ass

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Speaker 1: time away. That's when the big meeting is supposed to

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Speaker 1: take place. US leaders, Ran leaders. It's in Pakistan between

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Speaker 1: now and Saturday. I you know, we said this earlier

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Speaker 1: in the show. Don't think for a minute that Iran

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Speaker 1: isn't going to at least think about getting squirrely with this.

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Speaker 8: Well, we have it on both sides.

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Speaker 10: I am definitely, oh ben on Ray, I am not

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Speaker 10: anti Israel at all. You know, they are our friends.

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Speaker 10: We should support them, we have supported them. But at

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Speaker 10: the same time they're going to bring a little squirrely

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Speaker 10: factor to the table too. They are, you know, and

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Speaker 10: I'm just I am holding out hope that you know,

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Speaker 10: I mean, that's all, that's straight.

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Speaker 8: People don't understand.

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Speaker 10: You don't need big military weaponry and firepower and everything

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Speaker 10: to actually do something on their behalf stupid along there.

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Speaker 8: You could do small offer that thing.

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Speaker 10: At some points barely twenty miles wide, they could pull

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Speaker 10: up and do whatever. We absolutely decimated their naval capabilities,

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Speaker 10: but they could do small boat activity there and make

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Speaker 10: a significant impact on shipping through there and then on

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Speaker 10: the other So I'm hoping that Iran holds true to

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Speaker 10: this truce and doesn't do any of that. And if

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Speaker 10: they do, like I said, those neighboring country need to

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Speaker 10: step in, not just US and US alone, and US

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Speaker 10: not even US first. But with that said, at their site,

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Speaker 10: you know, israel I, I understand why they are so.

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Speaker 2: They want Iran gone.

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Speaker 11: They have been they have been attacked by Iran and

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Speaker 11: Iran proxies for decades over and over and over, so

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Speaker 11: the straw so they're all in now.

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Speaker 10: With that said, we need cooler heads to prevail. We need,

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Speaker 10: you know, the US to be the pragmatic aspect of

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Speaker 10: just say, hey, you guys, while we have this going on,

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Speaker 10: please don't mess this up for us. We're trying to

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Speaker 10: get something done. Stand down. We need you to stand down.

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Speaker 10: We need you to stop throwing punches for at least

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Speaker 10: two weeks unless they violate, and then you need to

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Speaker 10: work with us. Last time I checked, all your armament

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Speaker 10: comes from US anyway, and you've lobbed a lot of

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Speaker 10: stuff that direction. So don't don't make us have to

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Speaker 10: cut it off, because then you're going to be in

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Speaker 10: a worse situation than you were.

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Speaker 8: Before this started.

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Speaker 10: So Iran needs to follow the US, or excuse me,

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Speaker 10: Israel needs to follow US's lead right now and fall

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Speaker 10: in line with this whole process, or it's going to

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Speaker 10: derail the whole thing.

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Speaker 1: Brian Alvi joining us, talking the latest military headlines coming

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Speaker 1: out of this US Iran situation. Let's go back to

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Speaker 1: the weekend here when the news broke that that fighter pilot,

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Speaker 1: the weapons analyst that it ejected was found after about

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Speaker 1: two days of hiding and running in escaping seer training,

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Speaker 1: baby in enemy territory. You have been overseas, Clearly walk

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Speaker 1: me through what it's like, what the training is like

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Speaker 1: for somebody that's in a position like this.

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Speaker 10: Well, all of our US pilots have gone to some

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Speaker 10: degree of a level of a seer training, which stands

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Speaker 10: for survival, evasion, resistance, escape.

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Speaker 8: It's training to say.

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Speaker 10: Here's how to not be a pow camp. Basically, you

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Speaker 10: know how to run, gun, duck, dodge, weave. You know

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Speaker 10: if you dodge ranch, you can dog. But so obviously

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Speaker 10: this pilot's training paid off. You're traumatious and in the

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Speaker 10: intestinal fortitude to be that pilot in the first place.

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Speaker 8: Then to do what he did, I mean, there's so much.

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Speaker 1: And I know it's a different area, but the training

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Speaker 1: is intense, right like you, But.

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Speaker 10: He's been to if you're a fighter pilot, you've been

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Speaker 10: to a significant level of seer training. And for his

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Speaker 10: ability to do that, but then for us to do

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Speaker 10: everything we can to go get him, I think that's

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Speaker 10: a testament to what we all stand for we don't

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Speaker 10: leave anybody behind dead or alive.

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Speaker 3: It's not just a slogan.

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Speaker 10: People believe that we don't leave that's that's how you

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Speaker 10: get guys to fight. You'll never get an American fighter

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Speaker 10: to fight if he knows that, hey, not only well

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Speaker 10: you might leave me behind, you're gonna leave my buddy behind.

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Speaker 10: So that that is that is a hard and fast

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Speaker 10: rule with our our armed forces. And we just proved

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Speaker 10: it again. We don't leave anybody hundred like a one.

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Speaker 2: Hundred Special Forces involved.

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Speaker 10: So Special Operations obviously pulled that off. They're they're different

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Speaker 10: organization from Air Force pj's combat controllers to Delta CAG

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Speaker 10: whatever you want to call them. A special part I

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Speaker 10: think there were seals involved. It was a joint Special

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Speaker 10: Operations uh mission, and they killed it un they did

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Speaker 10: a great job.

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Speaker 8: They got him out. Uh.

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Speaker 10: And it's just and that's where and there's a there's

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Speaker 10: a definite difference when I when I say I don't

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Speaker 10: want any boots on the ground over it, you're an

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Speaker 10: idiot if you don't think they're Special Operations boots on

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Speaker 10: the ground. Now I'm talking conventional occupying forces boots on

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Speaker 10: the ground repeating the Iraq and afghan.

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Speaker 8: Two decade long building Yeah, whatever.

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Speaker 10: Coin operations because you know, we learned in high school

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Speaker 10: you can't buy your friends, but we like we try

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Speaker 10: to do it anyway anyway.

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Speaker 1: But what they did was we call, like though, like,

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Speaker 1: if you're one of these guys, if you're the seal

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Speaker 1: or one of these special ops guys, are you just

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Speaker 1: sitting around waiting for that phone to ring and is

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Speaker 1: it as simple off? Is it go time?

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Speaker 3: Or were they already there?

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Speaker 8: They're already in place. They're already in place.

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Speaker 10: They rotate, there's guys there in country ready you know

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Speaker 10: q r f RF Quick Reaction ready reaction forces are

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Speaker 10: ready to go.

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Speaker 8: They were. They were locked cocked and ready to rock.

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Speaker 10: But when they got when they got the green light,

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Speaker 10: so it wasn't like it wasn't Charlie Sheen sitting back

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Speaker 10: here in the middle of a wedding and his pager

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Speaker 10: goes off. I mean, you know, I mean, we we

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Speaker 10: have we have we have amazing warriors all over this

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Speaker 10: country ready to go do harm to bad people that

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Speaker 10: wish to do our nation harm.

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Speaker 8: So and they got nailed it.

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Speaker 2: The guy did he have like some sort of beacons,

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Speaker 2: some sort of signal to kind of let assumed.

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Speaker 10: So I don't, I know, I haven't I have you know,

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Speaker 10: I wasn't in the debrief. I'm expired and retired what

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Speaker 10: everyone call it. But yeah, I'm sure he had something

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Speaker 10: along the lines. I mean, the technology that we have

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Speaker 10: today is light years pass where I was just over

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Speaker 10: a little over a decade ago when I was in

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Speaker 10: So yeah, I'm I'm assuming.

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Speaker 8: That's how they have. But with that said, they also

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Speaker 8: have the capability.

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Speaker 10: To accomplish that mission, both the pilot and those that

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Speaker 10: went to recover him.

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Speaker 2: Uh, without all of that.

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Speaker 8: So the trade, the trade, they have the O S word, right,

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Speaker 8: they have the O S factor.

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Speaker 10: Scenarios of everything where we take it back down to

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Speaker 10: you know, sticks and rocks.

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Speaker 3: Tell us where we can find the podcast.

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Speaker 1: Podcast Those ash Holes.

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Speaker 8: That's one word a S H H O L. Yes,

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Speaker 8: not make sure you put the H and our uh.

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Speaker 10: Those Those ash Holes is on YouTube, but we're also

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Speaker 10: on Facebook and Instagram.

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Speaker 1: It's you and Jerry Talks Jerry Lopez.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, to two two vets.

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Speaker 10: That we we were on the phone today pondering and

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Speaker 10: pontificating with one another about this and of course what

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Speaker 10: because it's.

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Speaker 2: What we do.

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Speaker 8: We talked over each other the entire time.

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Speaker 10: But if you can, if you could decipher through him

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Speaker 10: and I getting excited and talking over each other, you'll.

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Speaker 1: Our podcast appreciated Brother Brian Alvi joining us talking all

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Speaker 1: things military with the US and Iran presents.

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Speaker 9: It depends upon what the meaning of the word is.

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Speaker 2: Is this anything.

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Speaker 1: Is this anything? Some guys going viral for going through

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Speaker 1: the McDonald's drive through and ordering eleven meals for his family.

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Speaker 1: Eleven meals in the drive through, okay? The worker said

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Speaker 1: that he needs to wait for management approval for an

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Speaker 1: order that large. What other people in line started to

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Speaker 1: get a little salty. Here is what he ordered.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna get certain today.

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Speaker 11: I need egg McMuffin and I need eleven big breakfasts

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Speaker 11: with the hotcakes, he said.

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Speaker 12: Eleven big breakfast eleven yes, all right, just warning that

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Speaker 12: will pay for probably a while.

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Speaker 10: Well, I got eight hungry kids at the house, so yeah,

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Speaker 10: that's cool.

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Speaker 2: Bro.

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Speaker 12: A second, I need manager approval?

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Speaker 11: Why need manager approval anything I see today?

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Speaker 8: No, that'll be it.

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Speaker 4: If you're looking at eighty three thirty four, the next

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Speaker 4: one up eighty three.

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Speaker 2: Okay, thanks guys, that's not as bad as I thought.

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Speaker 2: It was now three bucks for eleven big breakfasts.

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Speaker 1: Right. There's a couple of things here.

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Speaker 2: When I was in Vegas in two thousand and eight,

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Speaker 2: my friends had a wedding there. They got married. I

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Speaker 2: went down, like everybody was hungry, and I went down

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Speaker 2: and ordered eighty or No, I ordered fifty double cheeseburgers

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Speaker 2: from the McDonald's at the MGM for the reception crowd

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Speaker 2: the reception, yeah, we ran out of food. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't anybody's fault.

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Speaker 3: Everybody was drunk.

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Speaker 2: I walked in doing the billion dollars strut with what's

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Speaker 2: his face? That's fit? Yeah, and it only took like

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Speaker 2: ten minutes. But you know, I spent like one hundred

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Speaker 2: bucks fifty to one hundred bucks on that.

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Speaker 1: No big deal, that's nothing in Vegas. Funny.

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Speaker 2: Also, my kid had a birthday party and they got hungry,

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Speaker 2: and I went out and ordered two forty piece chicken

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Speaker 2: McNuggets and like three baskets of fries. I didn't know

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Speaker 2: you could order forty piece chicken mc nuggets. It was

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Speaker 2: actually cheaper to order those chicken mc nuggets at forty

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Speaker 2: pieces account that it would have been ordered to order

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Speaker 2: like eight ten piece.

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Speaker 1: Look at you doing, mad, I know, I pulled its

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Speaker 1: weight around here.

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Speaker 2: I had my Cassio watch out and I was I

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Speaker 2: was typing.

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Speaker 1: In the numbers, so not quite half figures, but I

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Speaker 1: appreciate it. Where's the computer at NIGS over there crunching

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Speaker 1: the numbers for how many McNuggets you can get.

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Speaker 2: It's cheaper to order by the bulk than it is individually.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why they had to go get the

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Speaker 2: management approval. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

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Speaker 1: But this brings us to great moments in large drive

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Speaker 1: through order history. Okay, this was the woman who felt

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Speaker 1: like it was her duty to act as the town

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Speaker 1: crier to everybody else stuck in the drive through line

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Speaker 1: behind a guy that ordered three hundred bucks worth of

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Speaker 1: taco bell.

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Speaker 8: Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the reason.

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Speaker 12: It's so.

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Speaker 1: The spirit of Paul Revere running through her veins, the

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Speaker 1: Britisher coming go inside in order that My only suggestion,

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Speaker 1: don't go through the drive through. You're gonna order three

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Speaker 1: hundred dollars running doungos.

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Speaker 2: Go inside.

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Speaker 1: But now they can also just have you pull up, right.

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Speaker 1: I've been a guy that's had to pull up before.

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Speaker 2: We have to park in a parking spot and they'll

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Speaker 2: bring it out to you.

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Speaker 1: Right, that's fine too, keep the line moving, but if

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Speaker 1: you order that much crap, don't expect that to come

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Speaker 1: out faster than the guy behind you who just wants

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Speaker 1: a mc chicken. Right, That's not how that's gonna play out.

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Speaker 1: It's the Hammer and Nigel Show.

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Speaker 2: It's the Hammer of Nigel Show. Hello, my name is Nigel.

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Speaker 2: Jason Hammers. Here. One of the that's completely disappeared from

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Speaker 2: the national headlines in the current news cycle, and somewhat

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Speaker 2: understandably so I get it there's a war with Iran,

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Speaker 2: especially with the events that unfolded last night or didn't unfold.

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Speaker 2: But one of the things that's completely disappeared is the

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Speaker 2: case of Jeffrey Ebstein, something we've been talking about in

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Speaker 2: this show forever.

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Speaker 1: We're never going to let it go.

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Speaker 2: We're going to keep it on the forefront, and I

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Speaker 2: just don't know if we'll ever see any justice for

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Speaker 2: any of the victims. I don't know if we'll see

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Speaker 2: any justice for the perpetrators. For that, we will go

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Speaker 2: to Joe d Neil, child abuse expert and survivor. Thank

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Speaker 2: you so much for joining us on the Hammery Nigel Show.

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Speaker 12: Thank you so much for the honor of being here

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Speaker 12: and to discuss this issue openly with you as surely

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Speaker 12: a dream come true.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you, and I appreciate that. Maybe just a

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Speaker 2: little bit about your background before we get into it.

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Speaker 12: Sure I grew up in a legal family. My dad

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Speaker 12: with a trial lawyer. I grew up up in the

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Speaker 12: criminal courthouse, and I twice prosecuted crimes against children, which

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Speaker 12: is a specialized discipline that trains the prosecutor how to

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Speaker 12: present these cases to juries. I tried more than one

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Speaker 12: hundred cases to nar Texas jurys and learned a lot

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Speaker 12: about perpetrators and professional expert testimony. But most importantly, I

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Speaker 12: learned that the smallest among us are most often the

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Speaker 12: bravest among us.

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Speaker 2: Jo D tell me exactly where we are now, where

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Speaker 2: the legal system is now with Jeffrey Epstein, the survivors

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Speaker 2: of his abuse, and the other people that are walking

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Speaker 2: around free that actually perpetrated that abuse.

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Speaker 12: What a great question. On this question, I want to

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Speaker 12: highlight the glaring system failure that is spotlighted right now.

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Speaker 12: In my opinion, there is plenty of a reasonable suspicion

877
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Speaker 12: contained in these files. We have access to three point

878
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Speaker 12: five million stages of documents. Out of my understanding is

879
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 12: about fixed and reasonable suspicion is the lowest burden that

880
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 12: a detective would have to have in order to get

881
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 12: a warrant for a cell phone or a computer of

882
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Speaker 12: a perpetrator. It is enough to unpanel a grand jury.

883
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Speaker 12: The grand jury would then do a probable cause investigation,

884
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Speaker 12: and those proceedings are secret. All of this could be

885
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:44,959
Speaker 12: investigated through grand jury satinas grand jury testimony. There could

886
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Speaker 12: be a team work in these files, but my understanding

887
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 12: is that there's not. In fact, my understanding is this

888
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 12: has been openly stated that is not a priority for

889
00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:01,319
Speaker 12: the administration, and so you are are going to have

890
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Speaker 12: millions I watch you to just take this in what

891
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 12: I'm about to say. The most recent CDC data says

892
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 12: that fifty seven million, seven hundred and forty eight thousand

893
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:21,760
Speaker 12: American women have survived contact sexual violence in the United States,

894
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:26,240
Speaker 12: plus one in six men. Plus we know that twenty

895
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 12: five percent of all little girls will be sexually abused

896
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Speaker 12: before they turn eighteen. That's also a CDC statistic.

897
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Speaker 2: Wow.

898
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Speaker 12: So every single one of these victims is watching the

899
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 12: complete inaction by the administration in feeling the trade, and

900
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:46,399
Speaker 12: they're thinking to themselves, why would I ever tell?

901
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, multiple administrations. Now do you know if there's

902
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 2: been any compensation for the victims of Jeffrey Epstein and

903
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Speaker 2: Galaine Maxwell and what happened on that island? Has there

904
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Speaker 2: been any monetary compensation? Not that I'm saying that that

905
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Speaker 2: absolves anybody of anything, but has there been any sort

906
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Speaker 2: of compensation or retribution?

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Speaker 12: Yes, And to learn more about that, I would highly

908
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 12: recommend picking up Virginia Gefrey's book Nobody's Girl. I call

909
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 12: her Saint Virginia because what she has done for all

910
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 12: survivors across the world is nothing short of seismic. What

911
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 12: happened was is civil lawsuits were brought over time, and

912
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 12: many of those settled in the early days, but also

913
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Speaker 12: when Jeffrey Epstein Perish Well, see however it was it happened. Yeah,

914
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 12: the state had a fund that had claimants, and my

915
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 12: understanding is that non disclosure agreements were most likely deployed,

916
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Speaker 12: and that's why we really have a pretty limited number

917
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 12: of survivors who are openly advocating for additional release of

918
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Speaker 12: the files. Now, non disclosure agreements are becoming illegal on

919
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Speaker 12: a national level thanks to my friend Elizabeth Phillips and

920
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Speaker 12: her work through trade law. But up until right now,

921
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Speaker 12: I believe that there have been civil payments, which generally

922
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Speaker 12: non disclosure silence is the price you pay for whatever

923
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Speaker 12: pittance you're able to obtain through a settlement or a fund.

924
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Speaker 2: Are there other countries that are more active in pursuing

925
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Speaker 2: people that have taken advantage of what went on at

926
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Speaker 2: Epstein Island committed crimes against young girls on Epstein Island?

927
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Speaker 2: I'm not talking about the United States. I'm talking about

928
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Speaker 2: now other countries going after people from various places around

929
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Speaker 2: the world.

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Speaker 12: Yes, sir, in France they have rated a couple of

931
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Speaker 12: private offices the names of the actors being found in

932
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Speaker 12: the Epstein files. Norway is under extreme scrutiny right now.

933
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Speaker 12: Their monarchy due to being mentioned in the files. And

934
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Speaker 12: I don't need to tell you about that famous picture

935
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Speaker 12: of Prince Andrew. I think it's very inspiring the way

936
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Speaker 12: that they've handled this because they actually used information from

937
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Speaker 12: the Epstein files exactly as I've described, using reasonable suspicion

938
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Speaker 12: probable cause to implicate him for sort of like trade secrets.

939
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Speaker 12: He would obtain special information through his position as a

940
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Speaker 12: monarchy about business transactions, company sales, et cetera, high level

941
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 12: business stuff globally, and he would just forward those emails

942
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Speaker 12: to Epstein, who then would act on the insider training

943
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Speaker 12: effectively to make his clients wealthy. And so, you know,

944
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Speaker 12: I think there's a lot of crime in those files

945
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Speaker 12: that needs to be looked at. And maybe if it's

946
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Speaker 12: not a sex case to be pursued, it can be

947
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Speaker 12: a financial crime, a white collar crime, even that banks

948
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Speaker 12: have been held more account Yeah.

949
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Speaker 2: And big picture here we speaking with Joe D. Neil,

950
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 2: a child abuse expert. You could find her work at

951
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 2: Neilnowlegal dot com. I think the bigger picture here is

952
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 2: that there are still people. We know there were crimes committed,

953
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,839
Speaker 2: we know we have victims, we know there were judgments

954
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 2: in their favor, so, which also means that there are

955
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 2: criminals walking around. I'm assuming very rich, very powerful criminals.

956
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 2: Do you have a certain profile of the type of

957
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 2: person and who was actually perpetrating these crimes against the

958
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Speaker 2: young women.

959
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 12: That's a great question. In Epstein specifically, I believe that

960
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 12: Epstein was a broker of child flesh, and I believe

961
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 12: that that was part of the reason to do business

962
00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:00,080
Speaker 12: with Epstein is because he would make arrangements with you

963
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,799
Speaker 12: for you to have whatever it was you wanted. And

964
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Speaker 12: I believe that based largely on Virginia's You Phrase book,

965
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Speaker 12: and she describes the level of perpetrator who Epstein associated with.

966
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Speaker 12: And it's true. Epstein was not the guy who was

967
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 12: hanging out with the little league softball coach, you know,

968
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Speaker 12: the little girls soccer coach. He was. He was hanging

969
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:27,839
Speaker 12: out with, you know, the Prime Minister of Israel at

970
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Speaker 12: the time, or I hope I got that right. I

971
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Speaker 12: don't want them to come find me, you know, hotel

972
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:39,799
Speaker 12: type owners, I mean high level people. Hill Gates is

973
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 12: in the files, Prince Andrew's in the files. And so

974
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Speaker 12: I've come to believe that this is the new big game,

975
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 12: hunting for the ultra elite. You know, we know the

976
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 12: ultra wealthy do not like planned by average people laws.

977
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:58,479
Speaker 12: We know they think that rules don't apply to them,

978
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 12: and that this would have in the equivalent of you

979
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 12: going to Africa and bagging a big lion. And so

980
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:08,760
Speaker 12: I put nothing past anybody.

981
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Speaker 2: At this point, where do we go from here? I mean,

982
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 2: how difficult is it to win a criminal prosecution?

983
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 1: Especially?

984
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 2: I mean we're talking decades after the crimes. We know

985
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:23,720
Speaker 2: Gallaine Maxwell, Jeffrey Epstein's right hand woman, so to speak,

986
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 2: who would procure some of these young women, befriend them

987
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 2: and or groom them, going so far as to get

988
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 2: her own pilot's license. She learned how to fly a

989
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:38,800
Speaker 2: helicopter so she herself could fly these girls to Epstein Island.

990
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 2: How hard is it to win prosecutions decades after these crimes?

991
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 12: The burden of proof in any criminal court in the

992
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:52,240
Speaker 12: United States, from traffic court to federal court is beyond

993
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 12: a reasonable doubt. Yes, And that is a burden of

994
00:54:55,640 --> 00:55:01,400
Speaker 12: proof that is not one hundred percent. It can be done.

995
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 12: I did it when I was in my twenties in Texas.

996
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:08,800
Speaker 12: You can prove a criminal case and I have using

997
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:13,359
Speaker 12: a child's testimony one child alone beyond a reasonable doubt.

998
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 12: I mean, it's eyewitnessed. And we cannot let the criminals

999
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:20,360
Speaker 12: who choose the circumstances by which they're going to commit

1000
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:22,879
Speaker 12: crimes and the extent to which they're going to leave

1001
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:27,319
Speaker 12: behind evidence decide who gets prosecuted and who doesn't. If

1002
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 12: the jury believes the testimony of one witness beyond a

1003
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 12: reasonable doubt, then that is enough to support a conviction

1004
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 12: in the state of Texas. So it is not impossible.

1005
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 12: It's not nearly as impossible as the DOJ is making

1006
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 12: it out to be. And they keep saying, you know,

1007
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 12: there wasn't enough evidence to support a conviction. That's not

1008
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 12: the analysis that needs to be made. Is there reasonable

1009
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:53,760
Speaker 12: suspicion to launch a grand jury investigation? That's the question,

1010
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 12: and then let's do the grand jury investigation. If you

1011
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 12: don't think there's enough for a conviction right now from

1012
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 12: a bunch of half redacted files, then let's actually investigate it, okay,

1013
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 12: because the message that everyone in America in the world

1014
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 12: is getting right now is that our government is complicit

1015
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 12: in a cover up. That is worst case scenario. Best

1016
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 12: case scenario is we don't have the resources to take

1017
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 12: on a billionaire who traffic children. Who are we if

1018
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 12: we can't do something like that. We're the United States

1019
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 12: of America. This is our Bailey Wick and we need

1020
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:29,239
Speaker 12: to get to business.

1021
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 2: Her book is called Outcry Witness. Her name is Joe

1022
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 2: d Neil, child abuse Expert. If people would like to

1023
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 2: find out anything more about you or what you do,

1024
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:41,360
Speaker 2: how can people get a hold of you?

1025
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Speaker 12: Thank you so much. Jodyneil dot com is also on

1026
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 12: the interwebs. I've been doing a lot of media. I

1027
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 12: have a podcast, Outcry Witness Unspoken. I would be happy

1028
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 12: to talk to anyone who is personally involved with this crime.

1029
00:56:56,560 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 12: And you know I'm talking to survivors, and this is

1030
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 12: my mission, is to clear to clear some evil out

1031
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 12: of this world while I'm alive.

1032
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Speaker 2: God bless you.

1033
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Speaker 1: Joe d Neil.

1034
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for taking the time, and please

1035
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 2: give us any updates you have in the near future.

1036
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 2: We'd love to have you.

1037
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 12: Back on I sure will anytime to keep my cell

1038
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Speaker 12: phone number.

1039
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Speaker 2: It's the Hammer and Nigel Show.

1040
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 1: Hammer and Nigel. You believe these characters are weird of us.

1041
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 13: We hope that Roan chooses a lasting piece, but as

1042
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 13: Secretary Hegseth said, let's let us be clear. A cease

1043
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:35,919
Speaker 13: fire's a pause, and the Joint Force remains ready if

1044
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 13: ordered or called upon to resume combat operations.

1045
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 2: Joint chiefs Madass Chairman General Dan Raisin Kine earlier this

1046
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 2: morning during a press briefing on the US Irene situation.

1047
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 8: I don't know.

1048
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:57,560
Speaker 2: We hope Iran. That phrase worries me a little bit.

1049
00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 2: I think they know better and I think this is oh,

1050
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 2: I know, yeah, of course I raise a gain is No,

1051
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:08,440
Speaker 2: we just were hoping for the best for Iran and

1052
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 2: we trust that they don't trust them.

1053
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 1: No, of course they're standing by it. They're ready right now.

1054
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 2: Exactly. I heard at the top of the hour Chuck

1055
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 2: Schumer say, well, the two weeks ceasefire is not a strategy.

1056
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 2: What is giving a palette full of money to the

1057
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 2: Iranians when Obama was in power? When I say palette, like,

1058
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 2: what was it? A billion dollars ten million, one hundred million, Well,

1059
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 2: I don't know what it was. Is that the strategy

1060
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 2: is that what we're talking about here? But all I

1061
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 2: know is that Donald Trump, they I think they kind

1062
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 2: of bought into when I say they the Iranians. Whoever's

1063
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 2: in charge there now, whoever's running the military, whoever's running

1064
00:58:56,680 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 2: the government, kind of bought into Donald Trump. Well, yeah,

1065
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 2: he said he was going to destroy an entire civilization.

1066
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 2: Maybe we better work something out just in the short term, right,

1067
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 2: just just in case.

1068
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 1: And that's so important you bring that up, because with Trump,

1069
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 1: you believe that, Like if Joe Biden were to say that,

1070
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 1: or if Bush or Obama, nobody would believe it. Nobody would.

1071
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 1: But with Trump, it's almost like Mel Gibson and lethal weapon,

1072
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 1: the guns in his mouth right now, is he going

1073
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 1: to pull the trigger? Is he not? I don't know this,

1074
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 1: sob is crazy, but we better take him at his

1075
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 1: word for it, just in case.

1076
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 2: That's such a great barness, so so wrong. I'm not

1077
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 2: saying wrong like you're wrong, but I'm saying, oh, that's awful.

1078
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 2: But yes, I understand exactly what you're saying.

1079
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Speaker 1: So as of this morning, goods and ships were flowing

1080
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 1: through the Strait of harme Us. But then there were

1081
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Speaker 1: some reports that came out. Trey Yinks of Fox News said, well,

1082
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 1: now that's Iran in Israel or kind of play in

1083
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:17,000
Speaker 1: the feud and Lebanon's involved, and there's still some missiles

1084
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 1: going back and forth. They've shut it down, but White

1085
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 1: House Press Secretary Caroline Lovett and her daily briefing at

1086
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 1: the White House earlier today said no, everything's fine, everything's

1087
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:32,280
Speaker 1: going through. So all I know, because I'm not there

1088
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 1: to watch it firsthand, all I know is that in

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Speaker 1: terms of the international markets, the price of a barrel

1090
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 1: of oil went down dramatically after the news of the

1091
01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:48,240
Speaker 1: ceasefire yesterday, and it stayed down, it didn't go back up.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't necessarily translate to the pump where you're getting gas immediately. No,

1093
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 2: a little bit of a lag time.

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01:00:56,000 --> 01:01:00,160
Speaker 1: There, right right, Same thing with the Governor brawn saying,

1095
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:03,640
Speaker 1: yeah that gas tax, we're gonna take a thirty day holiday,

1096
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 1: are good? Good?

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01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:07,400
Speaker 2: I'm glad bron did that. Why don't you take more

1098
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:09,240
Speaker 2: than a thirty day holiday. Why don't you take a

1099
01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 2: permanent holiday.

1100
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:13,040
Speaker 1: That'd be great, But for that to happen, you'd have

1101
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 1: to get the butt sniffer that's in charge of the Senate,

1102
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 1: Rod Bray, to actually admit that this thing sucks, and

1103
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:22,640
Speaker 1: he's not going to do that. Plus I'm just waiting.

1104
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 1: We talked about this earlier. I'm waiting with baited breath

1105
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 1: for all the school board members and all the bleeding

1106
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 1: hearts going well, if any of these taxpayers get some

1107
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 1: sort of relief, then what's gonna happen to us? We

1108
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:39,160
Speaker 1: might have to close the school. Johnny's going to be

1109
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 1: addicted to heroin. You don't want.

1110
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 2: That football football season's coming up very soon. We can't

1111
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:48,520
Speaker 2: turn on the lights in our multi million dollar football stadium.

1112
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:53,920
Speaker 1: But you paid with a referendum most likely. How are

1113
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 1: we supposed to fund our new football turf, baseball turf,

1114
01:01:57,280 --> 01:02:00,560
Speaker 1: basketball court, weight room, and all of these men's that

1115
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 1: make six figures a year for doing nothing but putting

1116
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 1: out a Facebook post? How are we supposed to do that?

1117
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 1: If you get any sort of relief from gas or

1118
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:14,960
Speaker 1: property tax that's coming and what sucks as people believe it,

1119
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:19,040
Speaker 1: make these school boards be fiscally responsible?

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Speaker 3: Families have to why can't they?

1121
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:25,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we're going off on a tangent here,

1122
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:29,160
Speaker 2: and that's fine. Like the property tax thing, I mean

1123
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:33,600
Speaker 2: sent school boards and other towns and mayors into a

1124
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 2: tizzy because of oh, two hundred dollars tax credit on

1125
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Speaker 2: our property taxes.

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Speaker 1: Oh God, shut it down. We're not going to be

1127
01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:49,000
Speaker 1: able to operate to the city under and they might

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01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:52,600
Speaker 1: not have first responders. Carmelon, get out of here.

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01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:55,720
Speaker 2: Well, but again this all has to do with what

1130
01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:58,480
Speaker 2: we're talking about. Is that Governor Brawn is saying, because

1131
01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:02,720
Speaker 2: it's like I in Zionsville at the speedway there in

1132
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:07,440
Speaker 2: oak and Ford it's four nineteen a gallon, which is

1133
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:09,840
Speaker 2: you know, you go to different parts of the city.

1134
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:13,960
Speaker 2: I realize that there's different prices, but come on, four

1135
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:17,800
Speaker 2: nineteen as opposed to the wah wah in Browns where

1136
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:20,760
Speaker 2: it was three ninety nine. What's the difference.

1137
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 1: Speaking of prices, Doritos are taking shrapnel.

1138
01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:26,800
Speaker 3: Now did you see this story?

1139
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:30,200
Speaker 2: Sorry, Dorito's Dorritos, you just have something to do with

1140
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 2: the straight over moods.

1141
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:35,360
Speaker 1: I don't believe it does, but I'm waiting for some

1142
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:38,200
Speaker 1: school board member in Indiana to go we can't afford

1143
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 1: dorritos now if you get tax relief. Walmart is pricing

1144
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:47,240
Speaker 1: out Doritos. And what I mean by that is that

1145
01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:52,320
Speaker 1: the sale of Dorrito's and Walmart stores has been lacking

1146
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:56,000
Speaker 1: because it's like seven dollars a bag. Now, so Walmart

1147
01:03:56,040 --> 01:04:00,280
Speaker 1: has been replacing Dorritos with like cheaper options. So long

1148
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:06,200
Speaker 1: story short here, Doritos are too expensive for Walmart.

1149
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:13,000
Speaker 2: So they so Walmart has been essentially Doritos don't have

1150
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:17,600
Speaker 2: as much shelf space as they used to correct because

1151
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:19,120
Speaker 2: they're they're losing money.

1152
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:20,320
Speaker 1: It's too damn expensive.

1153
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:23,600
Speaker 2: Seven dollars a bag, really for like the regular bag

1154
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:25,280
Speaker 2: and not even the party bag.

1155
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 3: Seven dollars a bag.

1156
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:30,320
Speaker 2: I love Doritos, don't get me wrong, I always.

1157
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:34,120
Speaker 1: Too have Doritos are great, but my god, seven dollars

1158
01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:36,360
Speaker 1: for a bag of chips. Get to bleep out of

1159
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 1: here with that? Good for Walmart. Walmart's like, look, we

1160
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:42,560
Speaker 1: got standards here. We may have a couple of fat

1161
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:45,760
Speaker 1: hillbillies fighting in the shampoo aisle, but all be damned

1162
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:47,919
Speaker 1: if we're gonna make you buy a seven dollars bag

1163
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:51,120
Speaker 1: of potato chips. That's where we draw the line here

1164
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:51,840
Speaker 1: at Walmart.

1165
01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 2: Just to let you know, one of those women have

1166
01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:57,520
Speaker 2: turned they've turned their lives around, and we've talked about

1167
01:04:57,520 --> 01:04:58,000
Speaker 2: it before.

1168
01:04:58,200 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 1: I think we've had one of those women on the

1169
01:04:59,840 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 1: sho show. Yes, Yes, good for her. It turned out

1170
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:06,720
Speaker 1: to be a success story. Before we hit a break here.

1171
01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 1: You were ranting like a lunatic during the commercial break

1172
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:14,240
Speaker 1: about about what specifically.

1173
01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:16,920
Speaker 2: It could have been any number of things, but go ahead,

1174
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:18,880
Speaker 2: having to clean up poop.

1175
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 1: At four point thirty in the morning from that stupid

1176
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:21,680
Speaker 1: little dog.

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01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:28,200
Speaker 2: Boy if my wife heard you call or have an

1178
01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:32,520
Speaker 2: ease puppy Junior as stupid little dog. But yes, it

1179
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:35,120
Speaker 2: was ranting. So I feel like this is like the

1180
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:40,680
Speaker 2: old drug commercial. I've learned it by watching you. Does

1181
01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:44,360
Speaker 2: anybody have this problem? I live like in this neighborhood.

1182
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:52,200
Speaker 2: It's a wooded area and the coyotes, coyotes, hack guyoties,

1183
01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:57,000
Speaker 2: big problem crossing the border. No, there's this one coyote

1184
01:05:57,040 --> 01:06:01,120
Speaker 2: that's in our little court that's kind of it's coming

1185
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:03,840
Speaker 2: up with poop on neighbors decks and stuff.

1186
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:05,200
Speaker 3: It's a pooping bandit.

1187
01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:08,560
Speaker 2: So we have an electric fence. Tell me if anybody

1188
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:11,120
Speaker 2: else has this problem in the chat at you know

1189
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:14,000
Speaker 2: fine hammer in Nigel. So there's a coyote that's kind

1190
01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:17,960
Speaker 2: of creeping around and like we have a little eleven

1191
01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:21,800
Speaker 2: pound eleven pound dog. It's a heavin ease puppy human thing,

1192
01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:24,960
Speaker 2: and so I have to take it out on a leash. Again,

1193
01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:28,000
Speaker 2: I paid thousands of dollars for an electric fence so

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01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:30,400
Speaker 2: I can just let this thing out and go poop

1195
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:32,320
Speaker 2: on its own at night, so I can stay in

1196
01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:36,080
Speaker 2: and watch TV. And now I'm walking around with a leash.

1197
01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 2: And because there's a coyote. Coyote comes through the electric fence,

1198
01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:44,440
Speaker 2: doesn't have anything to do, like it could pick it

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01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:48,960
Speaker 2: up like a little meat ball. And yes, I'm complaining.

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01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:52,920
Speaker 2: It's a first world problem. I get it. I got it.

1201
01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:55,920
Speaker 2: One neighbor down a couple a couple of houses down,

1202
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:56,880
Speaker 2: it's going to trap.

1203
01:06:57,360 --> 01:06:59,960
Speaker 3: Oh okay for this thing. It's called a shot.

1204
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:04,880
Speaker 2: So no, if that was it, there would be other

1205
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:08,160
Speaker 2: neighbors that would like call the police and have him arrested.

1206
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:10,600
Speaker 1: Trust me, wait minute, if you shot the coyote that's

1207
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:12,640
Speaker 1: wild in the neighborhood, people would com you.

1208
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:14,400
Speaker 2: I don't even know if you're allowed to do that

1209
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:16,480
Speaker 2: in the neighborhood. I don't even know if you're allowed to.

1210
01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:18,560
Speaker 1: Who are the Karens that are going to complain that

1211
01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:19,920
Speaker 1: you shot the coyote?

1212
01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:23,880
Speaker 2: Anybody else having this problem with coyotes and letting their

1213
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:28,080
Speaker 2: little tiny dogs out. I just want to know at

1214
01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:32,280
Speaker 2: Hammer Nigel email us as the best I mean, uh

1215
01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:34,760
Speaker 2: hammer Nigel at WIBC dot com.

1216
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:37,760
Speaker 1: So my follow up question would be of all the

1217
01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:41,640
Speaker 1: people that reside in your house, okay, there are four people.

1218
01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:41,919
Speaker 8: Yes.

1219
01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:44,880
Speaker 1: If I'm ranking the order of people who love the

1220
01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:47,440
Speaker 1: dog the most, you come in at number four.

1221
01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:49,840
Speaker 3: Why are you the one that.

1222
01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:51,880
Speaker 1: Has to go out at four point thirty in the morning.

1223
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:52,800
Speaker 1: Why would the kids?

1224
01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:55,080
Speaker 2: I actually would come in at number five because my

1225
01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:59,919
Speaker 2: cat is in there too. Gary loves the dog less

1226
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:02,880
Speaker 2: than I do. Oh no, I love Junior. Of course

1227
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:05,440
Speaker 2: I love Junior, but now I have to let him

1228
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:07,080
Speaker 2: out of I have to carry him around on a

1229
01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:10,440
Speaker 2: leash again to poop because he got up in the

1230
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:12,439
Speaker 2: middle of the night. He sleeps in our bed.

1231
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:14,040
Speaker 1: So what are you going to do with that?

1232
01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:17,040
Speaker 3: If the coyote comes barreling towards you.

1233
01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:19,240
Speaker 2: He I think the idea, the coyote is not going

1234
01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:21,800
Speaker 2: to come towards me if there's a human being out there,

1235
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:23,640
Speaker 2: if there's a presence out there, if it's just a

1236
01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:25,840
Speaker 2: little dog, he's going to come out and pick it

1237
01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:27,600
Speaker 2: up by its body and take it out of the

1238
01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:29,880
Speaker 2: woods and eat it alive. But since I'm out there.

1239
01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:33,200
Speaker 2: But yeah, no, at four o'clock in the morning, I

1240
01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:36,439
Speaker 2: kind of kind of hear the dog get out of bed,

1241
01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:40,320
Speaker 2: and I hear it a little tapping right on our

1242
01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:45,960
Speaker 2: hardwood floors that brothers floor covering put in. And then

1243
01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 2: five minutes later, oh god, he pooped all over the floor.

1244
01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:58,639
Speaker 1: And you, the one that likes the thing the least, has.

1245
01:08:58,520 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 3: To clean it up.

1246
01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:01,000
Speaker 1: Lindsey as allergies.

1247
01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:05,240
Speaker 2: Oh oh crap, I did. I didn't even smell it.

1248
01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:07,120
Speaker 2: Oh well, that must be nice.

1249
01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:08,960
Speaker 1: It used to be the one that cleans it up.

1250
01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:12,280
Speaker 1: If you can't smell it, I can. And I'm about

1251
01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:14,920
Speaker 1: to throw up, So you throw up all the time.

1252
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:16,960
Speaker 2: I took him out before he went to bed, but

1253
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:20,160
Speaker 2: he just didn't poop. He peed. And it's a whole

1254
01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:22,680
Speaker 2: big thing, and it's a first world problem. But I'm

1255
01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:25,960
Speaker 2: wondering if just anybody else has this problem. He's still

1256
01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:27,360
Speaker 2: a puppy, he's like a year old.

1257
01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:30,240
Speaker 1: Most of the con doesn't do that anymore, nudge. Most

1258
01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:33,439
Speaker 1: of the comments that we're getting right now, like from Adam, okay,

1259
01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:37,400
Speaker 1: pay for a fence, you cheat, bastard, I paid for

1260
01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:42,680
Speaker 1: electric fence. Well it's not working because clearly the coyotes

1261
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:43,080
Speaker 1: coming in.

1262
01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:46,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, the coyotes can come in and get a real fence.

1263
01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:50,000
Speaker 2: The electric fence doesn't apply to the coyote.

1264
01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:52,880
Speaker 1: Coyotes. Brian emails us.

1265
01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:55,120
Speaker 3: All right, the shoot coyotes in my neighborhood.

1266
01:09:55,160 --> 01:09:55,840
Speaker 2: I understand.

1267
01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:58,200
Speaker 1: And you know what, that's what Americans do. If you

1268
01:09:58,320 --> 01:09:59,760
Speaker 1: have to be out there at four thirty in the

1269
01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:02,519
Speaker 1: more with this little rat with the tail, then you

1270
01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:05,280
Speaker 1: should absolutely be able to shoot the coyote.

1271
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:08,120
Speaker 2: Now what scares me is a buddy of mine, his

1272
01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:11,280
Speaker 2: mom and dad had a Pomeranian puppy. They lived down

1273
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:14,400
Speaker 2: in the middle of a cornfield in Pittsburgh number of years.

1274
01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 3: Ago, don't tell the story, don't.

1275
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:21,200
Speaker 2: And my buddy's mom watched a coyote in the middle

1276
01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:24,080
Speaker 2: of the night while she was doing dishes, walk out

1277
01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:28,040
Speaker 2: from the cornfield, pick the Pomeranian up like it was

1278
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:32,559
Speaker 2: a TOUTSI roll took it back and took it back

1279
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:37,000
Speaker 2: into the cornfield just screw it. Was awful. So I

1280
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:38,959
Speaker 2: think that's what my wife is in envisioning.

1281
01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:40,840
Speaker 1: Okay, So I.

1282
01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:43,600
Speaker 2: Now we all are thank you, well.

1283
01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:46,639
Speaker 1: I okay, But I mean it's not like you don't

1284
01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:49,120
Speaker 1: have options, right you could get a don't have a

1285
01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:51,960
Speaker 1: lot of options. You could get a gun, damn what

1286
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:55,840
Speaker 1: your neighbors say, shoot the coyote, shoot to kill, or

1287
01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:57,759
Speaker 1: just suck it up and go outside with the dog.

1288
01:10:58,040 --> 01:11:00,240
Speaker 2: With the leash. And that's what I've been doing.

1289
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:02,360
Speaker 1: But he doesn't.

1290
01:11:03,280 --> 01:11:06,000
Speaker 2: He doesn't poop with me. That was the thing. He

1291
01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:09,720
Speaker 2: spent all day at doggy daycare, which he loves, and

1292
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:12,680
Speaker 2: then he's tired as hell, and then he got up

1293
01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:15,240
Speaker 2: with his little pack and hears his paws and then

1294
01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:21,719
Speaker 2: just just oh, he pooped all over the place.

1295
01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:25,439
Speaker 1: But you can smell it, Lindsey claims she can't. I say,

1296
01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:27,880
Speaker 1: you call her bluff and say, well, since you can't

1297
01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:29,920
Speaker 1: smell it, do you mind cleaning it up? How do

1298
01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:33,120
Speaker 1: you think that would go? It's the Hammer and Nigel Show.

1299
01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:38,080
Speaker 1: Are you really open?

1300
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:39,599
Speaker 10: Are you alcohol?

1301
01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:42,160
Speaker 1: Thing's gonna be okay?

1302
01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:44,120
Speaker 12: Are you okay?

1303
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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:46,040
Speaker 8: I'm fine.

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01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:49,240
Speaker 9: I'm pretty freaking far from okay.

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01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:50,200
Speaker 8: Are you okay?

1307
01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:50,559
Speaker 14: With this?

1308
01:11:51,080 --> 01:11:52,120
Speaker 8: On a Hammer and Nigel?

1309
01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:57,840
Speaker 1: One more thing on the dog pooping? Okay, we were

1310
01:11:57,880 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 1: just talking about that last break. Just one more thing

1311
01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:05,439
Speaker 1: my dog, yes, yeah, killed. Kenny tweets at us he

1312
01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:07,519
Speaker 1: thinks you're pooping and blaming it on the dog.

1313
01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:13,519
Speaker 2: Is that a possibility? Nigel, I don't even understand. Wait,

1314
01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:14,120
Speaker 2: hold on what?

1315
01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:14,439
Speaker 8: Who?

1316
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:16,040
Speaker 2: Who thinks I'm pooping?

1317
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:19,559
Speaker 3: Killed? Kenny tweets at us at Hammer and Nigel.

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01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:21,760
Speaker 1: Okay, you claimed you got up at four thirty in

1319
01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:24,679
Speaker 1: the morning and you're little bitty runt of a dog

1320
01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:27,120
Speaker 1: pooped in the hallway. Yes, how do we know you

1321
01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:31,120
Speaker 1: weren't just hammer drunk? You did it and you're blaming

1322
01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:35,200
Speaker 1: the dog for it. I take advents. I take serious

1323
01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:37,679
Speaker 1: offense to that, sir. I've never pooped in the hallway.

1324
01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:41,360
Speaker 1: I've missed the toilet a couple times, but never in

1325
01:12:41,400 --> 01:12:45,160
Speaker 1: the hallway. Okay, very offensive. Oh thank you for clearing

1326
01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:45,519
Speaker 1: that up.

1327
01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:49,800
Speaker 2: A decade after he first took a knee during the

1328
01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:58,080
Speaker 2: national anthem, former quarterback Colin Kaepernick is publishing his life story.

1329
01:12:58,240 --> 01:12:59,959
Speaker 1: Oh fantastic, a memoir.

1330
01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:04,360
Speaker 2: It's called The Perilous Fight.

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01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:07,840
Speaker 1: Oh I really what he did because of the line

1332
01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:10,120
Speaker 1: and the anthem, The Perilous Fight.

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01:13:10,280 --> 01:13:14,439
Speaker 2: Okay, it'll be released soon, are you okay? With this?

1334
01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:15,439
Speaker 3: Look?

1335
01:13:15,479 --> 01:13:17,560
Speaker 1: Anybody can put out a book if he wants to

1336
01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:20,320
Speaker 1: put out a horrible book, be my guest. But who's

1337
01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:24,599
Speaker 1: going to buy this other than like super pat groups right,

1338
01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:27,519
Speaker 1: like Jamel Hill will probably be the first one in

1339
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:30,559
Speaker 1: line to buy this. But a lot of folks, even

1340
01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:33,800
Speaker 1: in the black community, got worn out by Colin Kaepernick,

1341
01:13:34,120 --> 01:13:37,000
Speaker 1: not because of the taking the knee for the anthem,

1342
01:13:37,439 --> 01:13:41,559
Speaker 1: but because he was given an opportunity by Jay Z

1343
01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:44,640
Speaker 1: and the NFL to get back in the league, an

1344
01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:49,400
Speaker 1: opportunity that hardly anybody gets. The NFL said, all right,

1345
01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:53,120
Speaker 1: maybe you are being blackballed. I don't know, but we're

1346
01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:55,760
Speaker 1: gonna set up a private workout for you. We're gonna

1347
01:13:55,760 --> 01:13:59,680
Speaker 1: have it at the Atlanta Falcons facility, NFL facility. It's

1348
01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:03,679
Speaker 1: going to be the NFL video trainers, everything you need.

1349
01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:06,040
Speaker 1: We're gonna bring in all the scouts from the teams.

1350
01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:08,479
Speaker 1: They're gonna see if you want to really play in

1351
01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:10,960
Speaker 1: the NFL again. They're gonna see if you still got it.

1352
01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:15,839
Speaker 1: He canceled it like three hours before it was supposed

1353
01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:18,559
Speaker 1: to be get moved it. He wanted to move it, yeah,

1354
01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:23,840
Speaker 1: and then he canceled it. This was the moment Stephen A. Smith. Certainly,

1355
01:14:24,160 --> 01:14:27,799
Speaker 1: not somebody that's gonna be wearing a MAGA hat, somebody

1356
01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:30,360
Speaker 1: that might have actually been supportive of him.

1357
01:14:30,160 --> 01:14:31,400
Speaker 3: Taking the knee early on.

1358
01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:33,200
Speaker 1: This was Steven A. Smith.

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01:14:33,240 --> 01:14:38,599
Speaker 14: The moment he was done, twenty five teams show up

1360
01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:44,080
Speaker 14: in Georgia at the Atlanta Falcons practice facility, stated off facility,

1361
01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:50,360
Speaker 14: NFL personnel, equipment, everything, video, everything, and what does Colin

1362
01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:50,960
Speaker 14: Cabernick do?

1363
01:14:51,479 --> 01:14:53,160
Speaker 2: Not Tuesday when he found out about it that.

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01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:58,519
Speaker 14: Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, three hours before the workout because

1365
01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:01,560
Speaker 14: of some issue with a lie ability waiver.

1366
01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:06,559
Speaker 1: Kylie Kapnick wants to change the venue. Kylie Kaepnick wants

1367
01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:10,840
Speaker 1: his own receivers. Kylie Kaptick wants the video things himself.

1368
01:15:11,240 --> 01:15:14,960
Speaker 2: You see, you see he don't want to play. He

1369
01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:18,200
Speaker 2: wants to be a martyr. But guess what, oh any

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01:15:18,320 --> 01:15:19,160
Speaker 2: work in this time?

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01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:24,320
Speaker 1: Well you've lost Stephen A. Smith, then you've lost the argument.

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01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:27,160
Speaker 2: So it really more money and being some sort of

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01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:32,599
Speaker 2: cultural martyr than there is being a quarterback in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: That's the thing though, Like he got benched before he

1375
01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:40,200
Speaker 1: was taking a knee. Yeah, and it wasn't like he

1376
01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:43,120
Speaker 1: got benched for Tom Brady. He was backing up some

1377
01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:46,479
Speaker 1: turns because he couldn't play anymore. Now I'm not gonna

1378
01:15:46,479 --> 01:15:48,960
Speaker 1: sit here and tell you that some of these backup

1379
01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:51,840
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the NFL right now are really super.

1380
01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:53,919
Speaker 3: Duper good, because some of them are bombs.

1381
01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:57,160
Speaker 1: But let's not act like all of a sudden, you know,

1382
01:15:57,400 --> 01:16:00,960
Speaker 1: the offspring of Peyton Manning and Tom Brady was benched.

1383
01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:03,519
Speaker 3: Just because he was a social justice warrior.

1384
01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:06,960
Speaker 1: No, he got benched first, and then he started taking

1385
01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:10,120
Speaker 1: the knee, and that's when he realized, Okay, if I'm

1386
01:16:10,160 --> 01:16:13,400
Speaker 1: not any good anymore, maybe i should try this activist thing.

1387
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:15,519
Speaker 2: And I know we're up against it here, but our

1388
01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:18,519
Speaker 2: theory from Scott Pollard, friend of the show, used to

1389
01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:21,160
Speaker 2: play for the Pacers. Do you remember that theory? Can

1390
01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:23,800
Speaker 2: you sum that up real quick? I know we're running

1391
01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:26,080
Speaker 2: out a time here, but there was a theory there

1392
01:16:26,320 --> 01:16:30,639
Speaker 2: of why he didn't stand for the national anthem.

1393
01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:33,360
Speaker 1: Right he was already benched at this point. It was pregame.

1394
01:16:33,640 --> 01:16:36,679
Speaker 1: He was just taking the knee on the sideline, looking around,

1395
01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:40,599
Speaker 1: kind of forgot that the anthem was going on, and

1396
01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:44,920
Speaker 1: you forgot. People made it this big deal. He wasn't

1397
01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:49,080
Speaker 1: paying attention. People made it a big deal, and he thought, yeah,

1398
01:16:49,200 --> 01:16:53,599
Speaker 1: that's that's exactly what I was doing down with the man.

1399
01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:59,360
Speaker 1: That's it. I can't rule it out either, but he

1400
01:16:59,479 --> 01:17:02,240
Speaker 1: ran with the but and he's got a book coming

1401
01:17:02,240 --> 01:17:03,000
Speaker 1: out with it too.

1402
01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:06,679
Speaker 2: And Donald Trump meeting with the NATO at the White

1403
01:17:06,680 --> 01:17:12,000
Speaker 2: House just you know, it's a fraid relationship with the

1404
01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:17,640
Speaker 2: United States operations in Iran. NATO really doesn't have like

1405
01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:21,439
Speaker 2: the other European countries have basically snubbed the United States

1406
01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:24,840
Speaker 2: when it comes to our conflict with Iran. You weren't

1407
01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:29,559
Speaker 2: there for us. So basically I'm thinking about pulling out

1408
01:17:30,160 --> 01:17:36,960
Speaker 2: of NATO. And he's repeatedly criticized NATO, suggesting the United

1409
01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:40,719
Speaker 2: States it's going to consider it's a role. We're paying

1410
01:17:40,760 --> 01:17:44,160
Speaker 2: all this money, that's you guys aren't paying you, guys

1411
01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:47,320
Speaker 2: aren't pulling your weight. I'm not going to get to

1412
01:17:47,439 --> 01:17:51,120
Speaker 2: some conflict with some country just because they attack you anymore.

1413
01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:57,800
Speaker 2: And again, we're paying the lion's share here to protect you.

1414
01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:02,000
Speaker 2: And maybe we need to rethink our policy with NATO.

1415
01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:08,400
Speaker 1: And now President Trump reportedly considering moving US troops out

1416
01:18:08,479 --> 01:18:13,840
Speaker 1: of NATO countries. Mark Rubio, he's having longer meetings with

1417
01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:17,920
Speaker 1: this NATO cat. Trump had a very quick drive by today,

1418
01:18:18,280 --> 01:18:21,599
Speaker 1: and it was basically like, we're not happy this has

1419
01:18:21,640 --> 01:18:24,599
Speaker 1: been a one way street. We've given you money, we've

1420
01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:28,200
Speaker 1: supported Ukraine, We've done all the things. People forget that

1421
01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:32,920
Speaker 1: Trump still gave money to Ukraine, and even though it's

1422
01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:36,439
Speaker 1: not necessarily something, his base was overly fired up about.

1423
01:18:36,840 --> 01:18:40,040
Speaker 1: Trump's played ball with NATO, but when he needed a

1424
01:18:40,040 --> 01:18:43,639
Speaker 1: little help, everybody got cold feet, and that ticks him off.

1425
01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:47,280
Speaker 1: So now we see what happens here. We'll see what

1426
01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:52,040
Speaker 1: kind of chats marcro Rubio can have with NATO as

1427
01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:56,360
Speaker 1: they continue some conversations. But don't rule out Trump's saying

1428
01:18:56,479 --> 01:18:57,519
Speaker 1: screw you, We're out.

1429
01:18:58,080 --> 01:18:59,960
Speaker 2: Then you can have all sorts of debates in our

1430
01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:04,120
Speaker 2: guments about Ukraine begging to be in NATO and Russia saying, hey,

1431
01:19:04,160 --> 01:19:08,679
Speaker 2: look that's the red line. You put Ukraine and NATO

1432
01:19:09,320 --> 01:19:13,599
Speaker 2: and you put you put bombers and things on our border.

1433
01:19:14,479 --> 01:19:18,800
Speaker 2: That's the red line. And Kamala Harris herself, when she

1434
01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:25,840
Speaker 2: was in quote unquote power or some sort of significant role,

1435
01:19:25,960 --> 01:19:30,280
Speaker 2: said she was all for Ukraine and NATO. That's that's again.

1436
01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:32,040
Speaker 2: You could go back and debate the whole thing. It's

1437
01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:36,439
Speaker 2: getting into the weeds. But that's one of the reasons

1438
01:19:36,479 --> 01:19:38,960
Speaker 2: I think you could argue that Russia finally went into

1439
01:19:39,040 --> 01:19:42,000
Speaker 2: Ukraine and said, no, you're not You're not going into NATO.

1440
01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:45,839
Speaker 2: We're not having we're not having this on our border. Again,

1441
01:19:46,520 --> 01:19:51,120
Speaker 2: without getting into the weeds, something to debate and discuss

1442
01:19:51,200 --> 01:19:52,000
Speaker 2: for another time.

1443
01:19:52,520 --> 01:19:57,000
Speaker 1: The idea of NATO is substantially better than the real

1444
01:19:57,120 --> 01:20:00,040
Speaker 1: reality of NATO. Well, it was what an idea it

1445
01:20:00,200 --> 01:20:03,360
Speaker 1: must to be, should be great, it was, but it's

1446
01:20:03,439 --> 01:20:06,120
Speaker 1: not working out that way for the United States.

1447
01:20:06,120 --> 01:20:09,160
Speaker 2: I get World War two, sure, I get it. Right now,

1448
01:20:09,240 --> 01:20:11,320
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't think so.

1449
01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:15,080
Speaker 1: Right now, the United States is the guy that's spending

1450
01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:18,880
Speaker 1: a lot of money on a hot chick who's not

1451
01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:20,760
Speaker 1: having sex with him.

1452
01:20:21,160 --> 01:20:23,719
Speaker 3: That's the equivalent of what's going on right here.

1453
01:20:24,400 --> 01:20:26,559
Speaker 1: You've taken her out to dinner, you bought her a

1454
01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:30,240
Speaker 1: saint almost steak. You seem like everything's going great. It's

1455
01:20:30,320 --> 01:20:32,679
Speaker 1: date number three. I think we all know what date

1456
01:20:32,760 --> 01:20:38,519
Speaker 1: number three means. And Nope, nope, nothing n a. And

1457
01:20:38,560 --> 01:20:41,519
Speaker 1: that's when you got to realize, Okay, I'm either in

1458
01:20:41,560 --> 01:20:44,120
Speaker 1: the friend zone here or this is a one way street.

1459
01:20:44,439 --> 01:20:46,799
Speaker 1: And I think Donald Trump starting to realize the United

1460
01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:49,519
Speaker 1: States maybe in the friend zone because when we need

1461
01:20:49,560 --> 01:20:54,679
Speaker 1: a little action, we're not getting any. So last week

1462
01:20:54,840 --> 01:21:00,519
Speaker 1: literally okay, it was the birthday former skid Row frontman

1463
01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:04,559
Speaker 1: Sebastian Bach, and we did a little don't forget the

1464
01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:10,240
Speaker 1: lyrics game with Jerry Lopez oh for two O two.

1465
01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:13,280
Speaker 1: Oh wow. Really, I don't think he'd ever even heard

1466
01:21:13,479 --> 01:21:16,400
Speaker 1: eighteen in life or I will remember you.

1467
01:21:16,520 --> 01:21:20,759
Speaker 2: He's not that much younger, I know, but it's.

1468
01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:21,400
Speaker 3: A Cuban thing.

1469
01:21:21,439 --> 01:21:24,599
Speaker 1: I don't know how much skid Row they listened to

1470
01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:26,240
Speaker 1: when Havana when he was growing up.

1471
01:21:26,360 --> 01:21:29,600
Speaker 2: I don't know he grew up in Havana, but okay,

1472
01:21:30,040 --> 01:21:30,599
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1473
01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:35,960
Speaker 1: But we've got our second Sebastian box story just over

1474
01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:41,240
Speaker 1: a week here. So Twisted Sister they're going out on

1475
01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:44,800
Speaker 1: the road, you know, D Snyder Twisted Sister. We're not

1476
01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:48,000
Speaker 1: going to take it right.

1477
01:21:48,240 --> 01:21:51,280
Speaker 2: But D Snyder's has some health problems.

1478
01:21:50,560 --> 01:21:55,120
Speaker 1: Correct, So Sebastian Bach is now going to be the

1479
01:21:55,200 --> 01:22:00,000
Speaker 1: front man for Twisted Sister. Wild D Snyder recovered.

1480
01:22:00,640 --> 01:22:00,960
Speaker 2: Cool.

1481
01:22:01,479 --> 01:22:03,000
Speaker 3: Uh, here's a little bits.

1482
01:22:03,160 --> 01:22:03,320
Speaker 1: Now.

1483
01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:04,679
Speaker 3: This isn't the greatest audio.

1484
01:22:04,720 --> 01:22:07,640
Speaker 1: It's like somebody's cell phone that they captured at a

1485
01:22:07,680 --> 01:22:10,400
Speaker 1: show in Nashville. I think this was this past Monday

1486
01:22:10,479 --> 01:22:14,360
Speaker 1: night of what it sounds like with Skid Rose Sebastian

1487
01:22:14,479 --> 01:22:20,599
Speaker 1: Bach fronting Twisted Sister. That's what's gonna happen rock.

1488
01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:33,720
Speaker 6: Way more than that what I say.

1489
01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:38,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh, we got a white man overbite over here.

1490
01:22:41,240 --> 01:22:44,759
Speaker 2: Great replacement. I mean, that's on par with Axel Rose

1491
01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:47,640
Speaker 2: replacing Brian Johnson in a C d C.

1492
01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:50,479
Speaker 1: Because at first they were feeling it. I go to

1493
01:22:50,520 --> 01:22:53,080
Speaker 1: be honest, at first I looked at your body language.

1494
01:22:53,160 --> 01:22:55,080
Speaker 1: I didn't think you were feeling what he was doing

1495
01:22:55,120 --> 01:22:55,639
Speaker 1: at the crowd.

1496
01:22:56,080 --> 01:22:58,639
Speaker 2: When he was going When I say rock, you say roll,

1497
01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:03,559
Speaker 2: that's any sort of cliche rock and roll thing to do.

1498
01:23:03,600 --> 01:23:05,599
Speaker 1: But he was leading, he was leading up to him.

1499
01:23:05,640 --> 01:23:06,759
Speaker 1: I want to rock.

1500
01:23:07,000 --> 01:23:08,880
Speaker 2: I get it, I get it. I didn't know where

1501
01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:11,800
Speaker 2: that was going. And he sounded great. He sounded I'm

1502
01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:14,519
Speaker 2: all for it. Yes, this is something I know we're

1503
01:23:14,520 --> 01:23:16,639
Speaker 2: not playing. This is this anything? But I would definitely

1504
01:23:16,720 --> 01:23:19,120
Speaker 2: go see I mean, i'd rather see d Snyder with

1505
01:23:19,160 --> 01:23:23,120
Speaker 2: Twisted Sister right having some health problems. But Sebastian Bach

1506
01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:26,880
Speaker 2: was in his sixties and he's got to be at

1507
01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:31,200
Speaker 2: least great cameos and Trailer Park Boys. If you've never

1508
01:23:31,280 --> 01:23:36,760
Speaker 2: watched that show, Holy God Almighty's so funny. But yeah,

1509
01:23:36,800 --> 01:23:40,360
Speaker 2: I mean, what songs? Did you mention? Eighteen?

1510
01:23:40,439 --> 01:23:42,320
Speaker 3: In Live And I'll Remember.

1511
01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:46,679
Speaker 1: You Remember Yesterday walking hand in hand?

1512
01:23:47,360 --> 01:23:53,000
Speaker 2: Love letter his insane I Remember.

1513
01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:54,040
Speaker 1: You, Jerry was just looking at me like I was

1514
01:23:54,080 --> 01:23:58,000
Speaker 1: speaking Swahili. No idea never heard any of those.

1515
01:23:58,040 --> 01:24:02,000
Speaker 2: One of the greatest metal love ballads of all time

1516
01:24:02,200 --> 01:24:06,120
Speaker 2: from that era. I Remember You right? Oh wow?

1517
01:24:06,439 --> 01:24:07,559
Speaker 3: Was Youth Gone Wild?

1518
01:24:07,680 --> 01:24:13,120
Speaker 2: Also was on their debut album Sure Jesse.

1519
01:24:13,320 --> 01:24:16,120
Speaker 1: Joey Chestnut, Joey Chestnut, friend of the show.

1520
01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:18,200
Speaker 3: Who's Your Now Now?

1521
01:24:18,360 --> 01:24:24,160
Speaker 1: Honorary lives here Now moved here? Uh? Hot dog eating

1522
01:24:24,240 --> 01:24:28,799
Speaker 1: Champion of the World Joey Chestnut. He took on four

1523
01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:32,719
Speaker 1: big Tampa Bay Bucks football players in a chocolate cake

1524
01:24:33,080 --> 01:24:37,880
Speaker 1: eating contest and not only did Joey Chestnut win, of

1525
01:24:37,880 --> 01:24:41,200
Speaker 1: course he did, but he embarrassed these dudes and he

1526
01:24:41,320 --> 01:24:52,080
Speaker 1: set a world record doing it. Oh, I'm shaking. I

1527
01:24:52,120 --> 01:24:53,599
Speaker 1: think we run for his money.

1528
01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:55,560
Speaker 3: He's a heck of an athlete.

1529
01:24:55,680 --> 01:24:59,400
Speaker 1: He's the greatest of all time. For a reason, Joey Chestnut,

1530
01:24:59,479 --> 01:25:02,360
Speaker 1: for no reason. We saw that.

1531
01:25:02,360 --> 01:25:06,519
Speaker 2: That was impressive. First of all, you did not give

1532
01:25:06,600 --> 01:25:09,839
Speaker 2: him a run for his money. I watched, I watched

1533
01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:13,360
Speaker 2: that thing. Joey Chestnut destroyed you guys.

1534
01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:16,160
Speaker 1: And just a couple of minutes he ate ten and

1535
01:25:16,160 --> 01:25:17,519
Speaker 1: a half pieces of cake.

1536
01:25:18,680 --> 01:25:21,920
Speaker 2: That's oppressive. I mean, that's impressive. That's pretty good For

1537
01:25:22,200 --> 01:25:28,240
Speaker 2: four huge Tampa Bay Bucks players. They probably thought they

1538
01:25:28,280 --> 01:25:29,960
Speaker 2: had a chance, you.

1539
01:25:29,920 --> 01:25:30,479
Speaker 1: Know what I mean.

1540
01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:35,200
Speaker 2: I don't know what position they played. I'm assuming probably

1541
01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:36,439
Speaker 2: lineman or something like that.

1542
01:25:36,520 --> 01:25:37,719
Speaker 3: Right, they're bigger guys.

1543
01:25:37,920 --> 01:25:41,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they only ate nine and a half all together,

1544
01:25:42,760 --> 01:25:45,519
Speaker 1: Like all four of these big Tampa Bay Bucks dudes

1545
01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:49,040
Speaker 1: only ate a combined nine and a half pieces of

1546
01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:52,439
Speaker 1: cake and a couple of minutes, Joey did ten and

1547
01:25:52,439 --> 01:25:53,920
Speaker 1: a half by himself.

1548
01:25:54,280 --> 01:25:56,439
Speaker 2: I think one of the favorite, one of my favorite

1549
01:25:56,439 --> 01:25:59,479
Speaker 2: things is I've seen it a few times where where

1550
01:25:59,640 --> 01:26:03,320
Speaker 2: Joe is out at bars and he will somebody will

1551
01:26:03,400 --> 01:26:09,240
Speaker 2: challenge him to chug a picture of beer or even

1552
01:26:09,479 --> 01:26:13,719
Speaker 2: like a pint of Jaeger or something like that, which

1553
01:26:13,920 --> 01:26:16,439
Speaker 2: I can barely do a shot. I could barely do

1554
01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:19,599
Speaker 2: love like a one point five ounces or three ounces

1555
01:26:19,600 --> 01:26:24,240
Speaker 2: of Jaeger. He still kills it no matter what it is,

1556
01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:30,320
Speaker 2: but for Cake, forget about it. That's child's play, right

1557
01:26:30,439 --> 01:26:34,400
Speaker 2: for the number one competitive eater on the face of

1558
01:26:34,439 --> 01:26:35,360
Speaker 2: this planet.

1559
01:26:35,840 --> 01:26:38,120
Speaker 1: Like, how many times do you think he goes out

1560
01:26:38,200 --> 01:26:41,599
Speaker 1: just the dinner and there's gonna be some frat bro

1561
01:26:42,080 --> 01:26:44,720
Speaker 1: or some college dude, or even just some idiot that

1562
01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:47,519
Speaker 1: wants to challenge him, Like if he's just going out

1563
01:26:47,560 --> 01:26:51,519
Speaker 1: to a dinner at the Outback hammersteak House, there's probably

1564
01:26:51,520 --> 01:26:53,519
Speaker 1: gonna be some slap nut. It's like, I bet I

1565
01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:56,519
Speaker 1: can eat more steak than Joey. That's why I won't.

1566
01:26:56,640 --> 01:27:00,360
Speaker 2: He's been in the past couple times in our studios. Don't.

1567
01:27:02,080 --> 01:27:05,000
Speaker 2: I won't compete anymore. You two can do it, because

1568
01:27:05,120 --> 01:27:10,439
Speaker 2: I feel so foolish trying to do the shrimp eating contest,

1569
01:27:10,479 --> 01:27:15,080
Speaker 2: whether it's Saint Elmo, it was the Wings.

1570
01:27:17,520 --> 01:27:17,840
Speaker 1: I'm not.

1571
01:27:18,439 --> 01:27:21,800
Speaker 2: It's like watching it would be like like like Mike

1572
01:27:21,960 --> 01:27:26,880
Speaker 2: Tyson watching me in some other professional fight or fight.

1573
01:27:27,640 --> 01:27:30,640
Speaker 2: You know, it's it's stupid. I embarrass my Like I

1574
01:27:30,760 --> 01:27:33,560
Speaker 2: know you don't care, but I feel so stupid. The

1575
01:27:33,640 --> 01:27:38,160
Speaker 2: past few times I've tried to take on Joey Chestnut

1576
01:27:38,280 --> 01:27:40,240
Speaker 2: for a radio bit we did on the air.

1577
01:27:40,800 --> 01:27:44,040
Speaker 1: I hate it. Delusions that I'm going to beat him.

1578
01:27:44,240 --> 01:27:44,600
Speaker 14: I know that.

1579
01:27:44,760 --> 01:27:46,840
Speaker 1: It's like it's like one of those fantasy camps you

1580
01:27:46,920 --> 01:27:48,880
Speaker 1: see these old guys do, where they get to go

1581
01:27:49,040 --> 01:27:51,840
Speaker 1: play baseball with the Boston Red suffer basketball with Michael

1582
01:27:51,920 --> 01:27:54,840
Speaker 1: Jordan's right, I get to eat in a contest against

1583
01:27:54,920 --> 01:27:58,519
Speaker 1: Joey Chestnut. Like that's awesome. Like that's something that I

1584
01:27:58,600 --> 01:28:01,200
Speaker 1: can say that I have done. Like now, if the

1585
01:28:01,320 --> 01:28:03,559
Speaker 1: Colts want to say, hey, do you want to play

1586
01:28:03,600 --> 01:28:05,800
Speaker 1: a game on special teams, I would do that too,

1587
01:28:06,320 --> 01:28:08,559
Speaker 1: just to say that I've done it. I'll be a runner.

1588
01:28:08,880 --> 01:28:10,960
Speaker 3: I'll run down there and just throw myself at somebody

1589
01:28:11,040 --> 01:28:11,679
Speaker 3: for one game.

1590
01:28:12,360 --> 01:28:15,920
Speaker 1: You'd be a gunner on special Oh absolutely, I'll be

1591
01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:18,760
Speaker 1: the guy that everybody just knocks out so somebody else

1592
01:28:18,800 --> 01:28:19,639
Speaker 1: can make the tackle.

1593
01:28:19,880 --> 01:28:24,200
Speaker 2: But I can't do it anymore. I feel so stupid

1594
01:28:24,680 --> 01:28:27,439
Speaker 2: when I tried it, even even though I know it's

1595
01:28:27,439 --> 01:28:30,200
Speaker 2: a joke and he knows it's a joke, I can't

1596
01:28:30,240 --> 01:28:32,800
Speaker 2: do it. I can't do it anymore. So the next

1597
01:28:32,840 --> 01:28:35,559
Speaker 2: time Joey comes in here and he's got something to promote,

1598
01:28:35,640 --> 01:28:38,479
Speaker 2: or he's doing a contest, you and him can do it,

1599
01:28:38,600 --> 01:28:40,240
Speaker 2: I'll call it. I'll call it.

1600
01:28:40,320 --> 01:28:43,080
Speaker 3: If he doesn't have his deals, The hambur and Nigel

1601
01:28:43,120 --> 01:28:43,320
Speaker 3: Show