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Speaker 1: doctor Milana Krenger was one of the first persons that

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Speaker 1: let's get Kevin to open the classroom doors versus Thursday Morning,

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Speaker 1: Grand Rising, Kevin, Grand.

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Speaker 2: Rising, indeed, Carl Nelson, my man, my man, how you feeling.

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Speaker 1: I'm still learning, brother.

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Speaker 2: Yes, sir, and that's quite a good habit to acquire. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 2: there's also unlearning that needs to do that some of

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Speaker 3: Have you ever thought about it that way?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because sometimes you you you have a belief that

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Speaker 1: that's when you reach that juncture, you have to say, Okay, man,

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Speaker 1: I was wrong all these years, all these years, I

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Speaker 3: Step on his shoes there.

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Speaker 2: But look, man, there's this No King's protest planned nationwide

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Speaker 2: Meanwhile, going to the news one, Federal workers are also

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Speaker 3: You're just true.

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Speaker 1: Well, what's bringing that doctor? The reverend doctor Willy Wilson

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Speaker 1: Did he did he outline the reason for the march though?

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Speaker 6: Well, given all the killing that was going on, black

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Speaker 1: Yeah, some of the detractors say that it was, you know,

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Speaker 6: Well, a whole lot happened. One we had over two

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Speaker 4: Him, and that's you to remember him.

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Speaker 6: He had a major stroke. But he was saying, real,

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Speaker 1: Now and hold that thought right there, rav We've got

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Speaker 1: Seventeen minutes after the top of their family good morning,

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Speaker 1: and Grand Rising family, thanks of waking up with us

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Speaker 1: background information before we left. You will tell us about

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Speaker 6: Well. Are two things one one year solid of going

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Speaker 1: Were you surprised that it was so successful?

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Speaker 2: Well did you take into account, Reverend Wilson, at that

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Speaker 3: Did you guys think about that this is going.

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Speaker 6: To be not and I think it hasn't done on

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Speaker 3: But while it was happening, you didn't see it as

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Speaker 6: No, no, no, no.

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Speaker 3: This is going to be in the history book forever

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Speaker 6: And of course, even at this point, it's not particularly

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Speaker 2: Well, have you thought about writing the book about it yourself?

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Speaker 2: You know, the event behind the scene.

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Speaker 6: I thought about it many times. But I haven't. I haven't.

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Speaker 3: Haven't actually sat down and began beg.

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Speaker 2: You haven't actually sat down to begin writing out the notes,

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Speaker 3: No, get a ghost writer.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, please do that, doctor Wilson, because you know our

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Speaker 1: couple of questions. First, did he explain why he wanted

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Speaker 6: Number one, Obviously, from the very beginning, there were some

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Speaker 6: Of course, along the way, women did become involved to

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Speaker 6: that was enough to quell any dissent from anyone about

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Speaker 1: Well, Doc, did any of the women speak all of those.

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Speaker 6: Women that I just mentioned, spoke Rose the Park, spoke

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Speaker 1: Wow, it's almost reallieving the event all over again. Reverend

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Speaker 1: known church and the country as well. Union Temple Baptist Church.

438
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Speaker 1: He was one of the conveners of the Midi and

439
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Speaker 1: Man March that happened thirty years ago. Reverend Wilson Justice

440
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Speaker 1: has calling from Las Vegas said I think he has

441
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Speaker 1: a question or a comment for you, son, like two

442
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Speaker 1: grand rising justice here on REVERI.

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Speaker 4: Wilson, Yes, hope.

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Speaker 7: As a matter of fact, that was a lord has

445
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Speaker 7: been president of National Action Network. When I took our

446
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 7: group on over to the million Man March and then

447
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 7: to Union Temple as well, good morning, I greet you

448
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Speaker 7: with the greedy words of peace. But here's the thing

449
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Speaker 7: that I yes, I like to place emphasis on a

450
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Speaker 7: tone man and what that meant and the significance of

451
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Speaker 7: atone men black men atoning. That's the emphasis that I

452
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Speaker 7: speak on.

453
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Speaker 8: What do you?

454
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Speaker 6: What say you?

455
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Speaker 7: Pastor WILLIAMS.

456
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Speaker 6: Wilson. Wilson is the name two things one one the

457
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Speaker 6: word atonement at eighty one at one with God's first

458
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Speaker 6: mint is the process of becoming one with God first

459
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Speaker 6: and then becoming one with each other. That word was

460
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:04,439
Speaker 6: quitted to the medium and munch in emphasizing the fact

461
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Speaker 6: that we must make amends too and ask for forgiveness

462
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Speaker 6: from Almighty God for our transgressions, for the black owned

463
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Speaker 6: black homicide, for not treating our women, our wives the

464
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Speaker 6: way we should our children, etc. And then submitting ourselves

465
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Speaker 6: to a power greater than ourselves, and the significance of

466
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Speaker 6: that is again all these different religions coming together, as

467
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Speaker 6: we have been doing here in Washington, d C. Over

468
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Speaker 6: the last month. We've had a morning prayer at seven

469
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Speaker 6: am every Monday morning starting in September, and we've had

470
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Speaker 6: these religionsing together. Then the events that we have on

471
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Speaker 6: the eighteenth, we have again all these religions and all

472
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Speaker 6: these organizations coming together. The question has been asked, for example,

473
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Speaker 6: should we have another Media Man March, And my unequivocal

474
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 6: answer is, know what we do need is the spirit

475
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 6: of the Media Man March. You can't if you could

476
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,719
Speaker 6: put that bottle mat and reignite it and set it

477
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 6: on fire in the year twenty twenty five, there are

478
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 6: great things that we could do for our sell.

479
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 1: Twenty nine away from the top of our family. Just

480
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 1: checking in Reverend Willie Wilson from Union Temple Baptist Church

481
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Speaker 1: in Washington, D C. So, I guess he's one of

482
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 1: the architects of the Million Man March thirty years ago.

483
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 1: He was out there at this time in the morning.

484
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 1: He says, thousands of brothers were already out there on

485
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Speaker 1: the ball, but Pastor wilson't go going back to your

486
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 1: conversation with Minister fire Khn. Did he say how the idea?

487
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 1: How did he get the idea? Was it a dream?

488
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 1: Or who spoke to him? What made you know? Because

489
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 1: I'm almost interested in how folks were producers, even if

490
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 1: he's music or writing a book or something. Where did

491
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 1: you coach out from this start having a million black

492
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:01,959
Speaker 1: men come to Washington, DC? Did he ever share that

493
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 1: with you?

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Speaker 6: Well, one thing was I think it kind of came

495
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 6: together in pieces, you know, he said. James Bebell, who

496
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 6: was one of the lieutenants for Martin Luther King Jr.

497
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 6: Said to him, we need to have a tonement. We

498
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:23,439
Speaker 6: need to have a tonement among our men, among our people.

499
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 6: Then there was another who came and said, we need

500
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Speaker 6: to have a day of absence. He said that subconsciously,

501
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 6: sometimes when different thoughts are given to you by other people,

502
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 6: it comes out of your mouth. And he said, then

503
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 6: one day it just came out of his mouth. We

504
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 6: need to have a million in March. But it was

505
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 6: the result of having heard Reverend James Bebell say to him,

506
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 6: we need a day of atonement. And then another brother said,

507
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 6: we need to have a day of absence. Of course,

508
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 6: as you know, those were two of the aspects of

509
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 6: the million man March.

510
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Speaker 1: Were you surprised if brothers from all over the country

511
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: they flew, They took trains, it took busses. And one

512
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 1: of the critiques Reverend Wilson was the fact that, well,

513
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 1: the white folks are making money because we don't own busses,

514
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 1: we don't own planes, or the hotels in Washington Sea

515
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 1: predominant all white armed. What we're doing is kicking back

516
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 1: this cash to the white community. How do you respond

517
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 1: to that?

518
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 6: Well, important, no matter is we had to get here,

519
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 6: and unfortunately we don't have the kind of vehicles and

520
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 6: buses that we need to have as a people to

521
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 6: make it happen. But far more important than that was

522
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 6: the fact that we did come together, and we came

523
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 6: together without any negative incidents or any negative thing to

524
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 6: happen during that day. I've got to emphasize again that

525
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 6: this is the most important gathering of black people in

526
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 6: the United States of America. It is the largest gas

527
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 6: in history, and that point cannot be emphasized enough. And

528
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 6: it must not die, it must come alive because it

529
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 6: can be the jumping off point for us coming together

530
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 6: as eight people. I was just listening this morning. I

531
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 6: found out my wife came across this. A group of

532
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 6: seventy of the top black entertainers in America came together

533
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 6: under the leadership of Di Angelo, and we call his

534
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 6: name today because of course many of you know he

535
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 6: made his transition this week. He wrote and produced this song.

536
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 6: You will know. Eight seventy black artists came together, Divarge,

537
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 6: Tevin Campbell, so many other recorded this song about what

538
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 6: that Mellian Man marched. Right after the Million Man March.

539
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 6: They recorded that song. Many don't even know that, but

540
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 6: that's some of the influence that came out of the

541
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 6: Million Man Watch. All of these artists got together, had

542
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 6: made this song and put it out. Babyface was among

543
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 6: them as well, to talk about the low level of.

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Speaker 1: Hoops. I hope we haven't lost to Reverend Wilson. There,

545
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 1: he's on his way to Baltimore, by the way, he's

546
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 1: using his cell phone, so there with us family, because

547
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,479
Speaker 1: there's a lot of stuff going up in Baltimore. He's

548
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:25,959
Speaker 1: going to tell us about that too. Also, we're going

549
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 1: to talk about Unifest, the celebration of Unifest as well,

550
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 1: because this is a historic day. Those of you will

551
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 1: remember the meal in Man March. You were here thirty

552
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: years ago, and I'm sure many of you were. Remember

553
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: where you were some of you attended. If you did attend,

554
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 1: let us know and then tell us why you did

555
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 1: decide to attend the million man marching and if it

556
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 1: actually changed you because some people said they went and

557
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 1: there would change the critique as they changed for a

558
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: few weeks or a few months, and then they went

559
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 1: back into the old habits. And the question is what

560
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 1: could you think today's environment and you know what I'm

561
00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: talking about, today's social and political environment, could amim march

562
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 1: and take place? Could we convene two million brothers on

563
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 1: the mall in Washington, d C? Without any fights? Without it?

564
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: And you know now we know about you know, all

565
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 1: all the sellers that we have in our community. Could

566
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 1: would they try to sabotage it? What were your thoughts?

567
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: Eight hundred four or five zero seventy eight seventy six.

568
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the clock. We got to check the

569
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 1: news and trafficing with in our different cities, and we'll

570
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 1: take a break and we come back over we get

571
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: Reverend Wilson back with us again. But if you want

572
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 1: to join in and tell us where you were thirty

573
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 1: years ago. Did you participate or did you watch it?

574
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 1: Did you listen to it? Reach out to us at

575
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 1: eight hundred four or five zero seventy eight seventy six,

576
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 1: and we'll take a phone calls after the news that's

577
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 1: next and Grand Rising family, thanks for waking up with

578
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 1: us on this Thursday morning. At seventeen minutes away from

579
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Speaker 1: the top of the hour, I guess the past day

580
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: emeriagis of Union Temple Baptist Church in Washington, d C.

581
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 1: There'll be the Reverend doctor Willie Wilson discussing the Million

582
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 1: Man March thirty years ago. Hundreds of thousands of brothers

583
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 1: who are on the mall already in anticipation for the

584
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 1: Million Man March. One of the architecture was Reverend Wilson.

585
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 1: So it's given us some behind the scenes incidents that

586
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:09,479
Speaker 1: took place putting this together. Along with Dr Malaana Karrenga,

587
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 1: he's gonna be here as well later this morning. Doctor

588
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 1: Karenga actually wrote the manifesto for the Men and Man March.

589
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 1: We're gonna hear his thoughts as well. In between that though,

590
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 1: we're gonna hear from DC activists that Ron Moulton. Ron's

591
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 1: gonna give us some information about unifest that just take

592
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 1: place in Anacostia. And also Reverend Wilson is gonna be

593
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: all over the place today. I know he's on his

594
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 1: way to Baltimore. His bulb be back in the district.

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Speaker 1: So Rev, can you tell us what's gonna happen today

596
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 1: in Baltimore? Are you the only way to Baltimore?

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Speaker 6: Well, there's a prayer breakfast. Of course. The LLC in

598
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 6: Baltimore is on a tremendous job, I may maintaining stay

599
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 6: in intact for twenty nine years. Ever since to me

600
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 6: in man March, they have not disbanded. They've continued to

601
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 6: have a sunrise prayer service and then a breakfast. So

602
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 6: I'm going over to the breakfast this morning. Revend ben

603
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 6: Jabers will be there and others will be there. I

604
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 6: just want to go and encourage them and share a

605
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 6: few remarks and then run back to DZ for a

606
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 6: press conference at eleven thirty about our events that are

607
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,919
Speaker 6: going on this weekend in Washington, DC.

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00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 1: Can you share those events for us?

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Speaker 6: Reverid Wilson Well tonight, just what we've been doing the

610
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,359
Speaker 6: last few moments. We have a group of persons who

611
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 6: are going to share some of the behind the scenes

612
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 6: stories of what happened Coral Matthis Barrett, the wife of

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00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 6: the Mayor for Life, Marrion Barrett, who rolled out the

614
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 6: red copy. Without WM we could not have done the

615
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 6: Mellia that much. She will be sharing some of the

616
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 6: pressures that he had to undergo as the mayor of

617
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 6: the city making it possible for it to happen. We're

618
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 6: going to have the founder we Act Radio who started

619
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Speaker 6: his radio station after hearing the minutes to make the

620
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 6: call to go back home and do something. We have

621
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Speaker 6: a young lady on that path. I was going to

622
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 6: share how stories about her family who would plan their

623
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 6: family reunion in Washington, d C. So that they could

624
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 6: be in Washington when we have unifest where we brought

625
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,879
Speaker 6: all the city together and even vendors from all over

626
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 6: the country came to Southeast DC for that. So that

627
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 6: panel will take place. We also have the current President

628
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 6: and CEO of the National Council of Negro Women. She

629
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 6: will be speaking tonight at Union Temple because doctor Hite,

630
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 6: the founder and the longtime president of the National Council

631
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Speaker 6: of Negro Women, played a pivotal role in the Media

632
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 6: Man March in advising me because she had participated in

633
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 6: every march from the Sleeping car Porters all the way

634
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:52,280
Speaker 6: up to the Million Man March. And so we're honoring

635
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 6: her tonight. We're going to be honoring all of the women,

636
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 6: some of whom have made their transition, but we're going

637
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 6: to honor them on October eighteenth, on the big gathering

638
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 6: on Saturday in Anacostia. And I thought to do it

639
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 6: right in the heart of the community, not down on

640
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 6: the National Mall, but right in our community, right in

641
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 6: the community where Union Temple is. The police have caught

642
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 6: an off a four block area. It's going to be

643
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 6: a great coming together. We're looking for a great crowd

644
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 6: on the eighteenth. Go to tonight, I'm sorry, Tonight at

645
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 6: Union Temple at seven o'clock we'll be gathering for stories

646
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:37,240
Speaker 6: about the background situations that occurred that people don't know about.

647
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,760
Speaker 6: And then on Saturday, the big day, from nine am

648
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,720
Speaker 6: until the sun goes down, we've got go go music.

649
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 6: We've got gospel music. We gotta have some of our

650
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 6: culture in it. But we have every segment of the community,

651
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 6: the Masons, SCLC, community organizations, religious organizations, everybody coming to

652
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 6: govern of beneficials. That may is going to be the

653
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 6: city council versus are going to be. There is going

654
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Speaker 6: to be a great day similar to the same kind

655
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Speaker 6: of format that we had in nineteen ninety five, but

656
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 6: a collective coming together so that we can be first

657
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 6: of all, as malelonaca Ringe says, we must be responsible

658
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Speaker 6: to ourselves first and then to each other.

659
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Speaker 1: Oh wow, I'm glad you shared that with us. Some

660
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: folks are getting up and hopefully Ron Moten is going

661
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 1: to be up next to I'm sure he's got some

662
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Speaker 1: information about especially about Unifest for the folks who are

663
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: not in the district, who did not live in the district,

664
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Speaker 1: does not do not know much about Unifest. He's going

665
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Speaker 1: to fill us in on that. But let me ask

666
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Speaker 1: you this though, twelve away from the top of our

667
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,919
Speaker 1: Reverend Wilson, the spirit of the Mill of Man March,

668
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: that's what we're trying to recapture. Now we're in there's

669
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: time and space where they're trying to erase our history.

670
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: Can we how can we keep the spirit going. How

671
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,800
Speaker 1: can we make sure the people, the youngsters who weren't

672
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 1: around thirty years ago, understand what the Millia man launched, did,

673
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: what he'd achieved, and how it came to How do

674
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 1: we keep that going?

675
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Speaker 6: Well, just like we're doing right now. You're talking about

676
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 6: it having events around it. That's why we're doing what

677
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 6: we're doing this week and this month. All month long,

678
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 6: we've been having different activities to in fact, let those

679
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Speaker 6: two generations who were not around, were some who were

680
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 6: not even born to know about this historic day. As

681
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 6: I said before, and I can't emphasize enough the largest

682
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Speaker 6: and the most important gathering of black people in the

683
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Speaker 6: history of the United States of.

684
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Speaker 1: America ten away from the top of hea Ver Wilson,

685
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Speaker 1: did you get any pushback from your Christian brothers because

686
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 1: you're working with you're working with the Muslims, and some

687
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 1: of them feel that that's not a real revision. I've

688
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 1: had experiences with some Christian pastors tell me that when

689
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 1: we put on an event with the faith people and

690
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Speaker 1: they said they're not going to participate because the members

691
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Speaker 1: of the nation was involved. I'm just thinking of brother

692
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 1: from His name is Scott Scott, but who was part

693
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Speaker 1: of it. You see his face right now, but they

694
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Speaker 1: wouldn't participate. Did you get any pushback say that you

695
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 1: you know, because you and the minister been friends, so

696
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 1: you understand universal language of love and faithfuness. But some

697
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: folks feeling, you know that being Islam is below Christianity

698
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 1: for example. Did you get any pushback for any of you,

699
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: your Christian brothers and sisters about working with the nation.

700
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 6: That's on both sides. That had been the case. But

701
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 6: I think when the greatest examples of the media, Man March,

702
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 6: and of the long standing relationship between the ministers and

703
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 6: myself is that we have stood together for forty eight years.

704
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 6: I think that's one of the greatest and most positive

705
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 6: examples that came out of our relationship and out of

706
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 6: our working together on the media. Man much we showed

707
00:39:55,000 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 6: that we could rise above religious differences. We've demonstrated it,

708
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 6: and of course that played a role, and I've been

709
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Speaker 6: able to bring all of these religious denominations together, which

710
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:12,800
Speaker 6: we did in nineteen ninety five. We had every pretty

711
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 6: much every Christian denomination in America was represented and participated

712
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 6: in the media, Man Marsh. Some of them had apprehension

713
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 6: at first, but a lot of it had to do

714
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Speaker 6: with my relationship with them. Doctor Hyde taught me this,

715
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Speaker 6: She said, revenue a lot of this. When you're building

716
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Speaker 6: a coalition, it has to depend on relationships. And so

717
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 6: what did I do. I went to many of these

718
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Speaker 6: Christian religious leaders and who had apprehension, I said, well,

719
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Speaker 6: do it for me, Come because I'm asking you to come,

720
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Speaker 6: and they did when they got to hear the minister

721
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Speaker 6: and the powerful message that he brings, the truth that

722
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Speaker 6: he brings, that kind of brought down a lot of

723
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Speaker 6: the concerns that they have. And might I say, in

724
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Speaker 6: all the years that Administer Phara Khon came the Union

725
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 6: Temple every year when he first started those beginning years,

726
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 6: you couldn't count the cameraman thirty forty fifty camera men

727
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,320
Speaker 6: in the back of the church. But when they saw

728
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 6: how they were helping to spread the truth about who

729
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 6: Minister Phara Khan was, in the latter years, you could

730
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 6: count the cameras on your hand in the back of

731
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 6: Union Temple because they realized, Wow, we're helping people to

732
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 6: really understand this great man and the truth that he speaks.

733
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:39,320
Speaker 6: So we're not going to cover him anymore. But that

734
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 6: enough of his message got out so that most of

735
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Speaker 6: our Christian leaders by now understand what a great leader

736
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Speaker 6: he is and was, and therefore they don't have those

737
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Speaker 6: kind of concerns that some of them had in nineteen

738
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Speaker 6: ninety five.

739
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Speaker 1: Yeah, one of the things they probably found out that

740
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Speaker 1: the ministers, you know, is well schooled in the Bible,

741
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 1: go toe to toe with any Christian minister when it

742
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: comes to dissecting the Bible, quoting Biblical verses. I know

743
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 1: his very adept at that because I've known him since

744
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Speaker 1: nineteen seventy four when he was doing radio first in

745
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Speaker 1: New York, and he knew it back then. I know

746
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 1: he knows it now. I've hurt him quote scripture and people.

747
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 1: Some people are surprised that he knows the Bible that well,

748
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 1: but you weren't.

749
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Speaker 4: Or you aren't right.

750
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Speaker 6: Absolutely, yea, he knows the Scripture and more than than

751
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 6: his power and the truth that he speaks. You know,

752
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 6: even those people who were in the closet in terms

753
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 6: of recognizing him and standing with him, they knew and

754
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Speaker 6: know that he speaks truth.

755
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 1: He certainly does. Family. Just waking up at seven minutes

756
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:48,399
Speaker 1: away from the top of the eist with our guest,

757
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 1: the Reverend Willie Wilson from Union Temple Baptist Church. He's

758
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 1: a pastor their marriage at that church as a church,

759
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 1: and he basically built in Washington, dcate. It's a landmark

760
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Speaker 1: in the district and that's where a lot of the

761
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,919
Speaker 1: organizations for the Million Man March took place thirty years ago.

762
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Speaker 1: A lot of the groundwork footwork took place at the church,

763
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Speaker 1: and they're going to do it again thirty years from now.

764
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Speaker 1: So but Reverend Wilson, how do we keep this How

765
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: do we keep this vibe alive? We're in a situation

766
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Speaker 1: now where they're taking out all the information about our

767
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 1: history out of the schools, out of the universities, out

768
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Speaker 1: of all the libraries, and you know, all the places

769
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 1: where we would go for our history, they've been erased.

770
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Speaker 1: And this country right now seems hell bents on doing

771
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 1: that is if we you know, they're trying to erase

772
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: our presence. But this is important, this is part of

773
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 1: our history. So how do we keep this going? So

774
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 1: the people the next generation comes up, we'll hear what

775
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 1: we did. They know about the March on Washington, but

776
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:47,959
Speaker 1: they also need to know about the Media Man March.

777
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 6: Well, this is why we're doing what we're doing. And

778
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:56,240
Speaker 6: of course we can't depend on the history of books

779
00:43:56,360 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 6: and that have been written by our pressa all the

780
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,879
Speaker 6: government to teach our history. They never have and they

781
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 6: never will. That's why that's a good thing and a

782
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 6: lot of respects that they're trying to erase because we

783
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 6: are responsible. But teaching our own history, that's one of

784
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 6: the things that we're working on with this effort. I

785
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,359
Speaker 6: don't want to share everything that we are doing in

786
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 6: that regard, but we have determined that we must teach

787
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 6: our own history and we will be doing that in

788
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 6: various kinds of ways, and that's the whole effort. Let

789
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 6: me just say also that Union Temples started Unit fast.

790
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 6: We incorporated it as a program that would build the

791
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 6: same thing as the Media Man months, and that's why

792
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 6: we are putting those two events together, two iconic legacies,

793
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:51,879
Speaker 6: both of which talk about faith, talk about atonement, talk

794
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 6: about collective responsibility, talk about coming together to do for ourselves.

795
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 6: It's time for us to turn inward to ourselves. I

796
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 6: know that there's this big no walking thing going on

797
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 6: that's wonderful downtown, but it's time for us to turn inward.

798
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 6: We're gonna be in Anacostia, We're gonna be in Southeast

799
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Speaker 6: d C. Trying to reignite the spirit of the media

800
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:18,800
Speaker 6: man march and unit fast and come together as a people,

801
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 6: because the one thing we do not alp is unity.

802
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 6: And when we have unity, there is absolutely nothing that

803
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 6: we cannot do. That's what the mea man Mont showed us.

804
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 6: It showed us that we can come together, and we

805
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 6: want to build on that. And because that's once we

806
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 6: have that unity, all of the things that we need

807
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:44,399
Speaker 6: to do, economic empowerment, teaching, our history, you name it,

808
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 6: we can do it if we unify.

809
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 1: So true, Rav, We're gonna let you go because I

810
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 1: know you're busy this morning. You've got to that prayer

811
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 1: breakfast in Baltimore on your way there, and then you

812
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 1: got to rush rush back to the district for the

813
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 1: press conference. So I just want to thank you for

814
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 1: sharing your thoughts with us this morning.

815
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 6: Absolutely pray for it because we backed up in this

816
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 6: traffic so we can get there in time.

817
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,319
Speaker 1: Thanks all right, thank you. Speaking about traffic, we've got

818
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,320
Speaker 1: to step aside and get caught up and keep listening

819
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: to Rave. You get the traffic report that's next four

820
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 1: minutes away from the top. They our family. We're going

821
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 1: to continue talking about Unifest and also the million man

822
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 1: March that happened thirty years ago, but as I mentioned,

823
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 1: we got to step aside and get caught up in

824
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 1: the traffic and weather that's coming next. And then we'll

825
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 1: take your phone calls at eight hundred four five zero

826
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Speaker 1: seventy eight seven six. All that's next and ground rising family.

827
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 1: Thanks starting your day with us. Thirty years ago we

828
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,359
Speaker 1: had the million man March and thirty years ago two

829
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 1: million brothers you know. Send it on Washington, DC to

830
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 1: make it a toment. We want to hear from you

831
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,839
Speaker 1: though this hour. What are your thoughts? Where were you?

832
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 1: Do you remember where you were? Let me being Kevin first,

833
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 1: asking where Kevin, where do you remember where you were

834
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 1: thirty years ago?

835
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 2: I'm sitting behind this microphone likewise, yes.

836
00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 3: You know, somebody's got to do it. We were, you know, kind.

837
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 2: Of watching and giving updates of what was going on

838
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:07,360
Speaker 2: at the time.

839
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Speaker 1: You know, and we were in l A and we

840
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 1: carried it. We carried it live. We we do the

841
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 1: morning show, the program we did in the morning. We

842
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 1: just decided we're going to just run the middle of

843
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 1: Man Marsh and had the list of the speakers and

844
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 1: then we were gonna, you know, start start, They're going

845
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 1: to start the morning show at I think it was

846
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 1: seven o'clock. They're going to start the morning show. Then

847
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:28,760
Speaker 1: the boss calls and says no. Because I was handing

848
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 1: over to the morning for folks. They are ready, they're decide,

849
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 1: they study are ready to get going. He said, no,

850
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 1: keep it going, keep it going.

851
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 4: You know.

852
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 1: We just kept that going and every now and then

853
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 1: they're popping and said, so how long is this going

854
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 1: to go? How long you going to do this? Until

855
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 1: the boss says no, he said, and periodic call and

856
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: say keep it going. You still got it? You go,

857
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 1: and we carried it. Kevin, you understand this because you're

858
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 1: ready on the folks are listening, probably understanding. There was

859
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 1: no commercials nothing. We had to make up all these

860
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 1: commercials and we started four o'clock in the morning, carrying

861
00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 1: it live to four o'clock that afternoon. It was just

862
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 1: walled to wall the million Man March. He thought it

863
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 1: was that important for our people to hear the Million

864
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 1: Band March because you know, I don't know if they

865
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 1: it was carried on TV or c Span carried it,

866
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 1: and I don't know if that happened back then, but

867
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 1: nowhere else in southern California, because you hear what was

868
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 1: going on in Washington, d C. And we were carnting,

869
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 1: you know, wall to wall coverage, and my job was

870
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 1: just basically identify who's coming up in case there's a

871
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: lull in the when they changed you over speakers and

872
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,359
Speaker 1: had to figure out if they because sometimes they didn't

873
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 1: go buy the script. You know somebody, Oh that's the Gregory.

874
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 1: You hear the voice, you know that person, Oh that's

875
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 1: so and so. Yeah, So that's how it read for us.

876
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 1: But I don't know how you guys did in DC.

877
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 2: Well, some of the people who were speaking came by

878
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:50,799
Speaker 2: the station. I do remember Montsamela FuMO, Mark Thompson came by,

879
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 2: you know, because he spoke there and then came to

880
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 2: the station and talked about it, and a few others,

881
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:58,839
Speaker 2: But I don't remember all of the names of every

882
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 2: everyone who stopped by conveniently to tell us what was

883
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 2: going on from a personal point of view, and it

884
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:11,800
Speaker 2: was really cool. I wanted to ask Minister Wilson, wasn't

885
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,840
Speaker 2: the million man monster? Asking YouTube, perhaps wasn't the million

886
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 2: Man March? A cummulation of other group groupings that he

887
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 2: had had none as large as a million men, but

888
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 2: he had Minister Farrakhan had gotten groups of men together

889
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 2: before and just realized, perhaps we should do this with

890
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 2: a million men.

891
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 3: Didn't he have, you know, other large groupings before?

892
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 1: You know, I can't recall you know, I be honest

893
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 1: you I can't recall maybe people listening around the country,

894
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 1: because I know he did go on to you know,

895
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:46,800
Speaker 1: he went around the country. But maybe that's a question

896
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 1: for uh, doctor Kranka when he comes in, because he

897
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 1: was part of that that meeting. They I know it

898
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 1: because we've had this conversation with doctor Karrenga and Minister Focoon.

899
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 1: They would have meetings on the phone that you know,

900
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:00,840
Speaker 1: and then deciding how they were going to do it,

901
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 1: and it was just like, Okay, yeah, a million men

902
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 1: are going to come together, and there's a question whether

903
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 1: they could attract a million brothers on the mall. But

904
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 1: I think Kevin, what stood out to me was that

905
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 1: there were no problems.

906
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:14,359
Speaker 6: Yo.

907
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 1: Can you imagine that there were there were no problems.

908
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 1: You got a million brothers out there. Somebody had to

909
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 1: step on somebody's toe, and nobody swung, nobody tried to

910
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 1: pick in the pocket, nobody's smoking weed. I mean, it

911
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 1: was just And this is what I wasn't physically there.

912
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:31,720
Speaker 1: So this is this is the reports, all the reports

913
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 1: I got back. If you were there, give us a

914
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 1: call at eight hundred four or five zero seventy eight

915
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 1: seventy six. I want to hear if it impacted you,

916
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 1: because I've met so many brothers, Kevin that they say

917
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:46,800
Speaker 1: they were changed. I met a brother who actually joined

918
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 1: the nation after going to the march. He's just something

919
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 1: he told me he was he felt compelled to go

920
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 1: to the march. When he came back, he started his

921
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 1: own business. So I don't know if you ran into

922
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 1: any of those kind of stories.

923
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 2: Well, I think the most powerful phrase that Reverend Wilson

924
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 2: brought up and Justice brought up was atonement. Atonement is

925
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 2: there aligning themselves with God. And that was the biggest issue.

926
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 2: So it became a spiritual issue at thet with the

927
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 2: energy of a million or more men at the same time,

928
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 2: and and so that that's part of the conversion. I

929
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 2: believe that had so many people inspired to make moves

930
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 2: to change some things because you know, according to Wikipedia,

931
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 2: now during that time, there was the Contract with America

932
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:41,320
Speaker 2: and the fact that the African American men were being shunned,

933
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 2: and and so the whole idea was to go with

934
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 2: God and make those changes that you know that you

935
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:55,799
Speaker 2: feel led to live a life of purpose. And you know,

936
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 2: just my quote, but Reverend Jesse Jackson spoke there as well.

937
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 2: So and I could see people, you know, choosing their

938
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 2: new fate, their new destiny based on that.

939
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, I could see the religious folks

940
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 1: when it comes to torment, he says, I have wronged,

941
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:15,320
Speaker 1: you know, forgive my sins and all of that and

942
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 1: making and confession and profession that you're going to change.

943
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 1: But for the folks who are not uh, you know,

944
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:25,879
Speaker 1: inclined in the faith, and you know, not everyone there

945
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 1: was a member of the National or from a religious

946
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:32,399
Speaker 1: aspect of the Brothers who are probably atheists, but they

947
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:36,479
Speaker 1: still still bought into the fact that Minister Farca talked

948
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 1: about a torment. He says, hey, hey, you know, I

949
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 1: have sinned, you know, and I'm going to change. I'm

950
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 1: going to make a change. When I leave here, I'm

951
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 1: going to make a change. And I'm just wondering because

952
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:49,360
Speaker 1: here be hearing on the radio, being there's two different things,

953
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 1: you know, the feeling that you get. It's like watching

954
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 1: a basketball game on TV and being actually being at

955
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 1: the game, because you're actually there. And this is just

956
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 1: me for the million man march, but hearing on the radio,

957
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 1: even though it's close to it on the radio, but

958
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 1: the folks who actually did That's what I want to

959
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 1: hear from some people who were at the march and

960
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 1: what he did for them, if they atoned, if they change,

961
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 1: or and let's put it this way, Kevin, let's let's

962
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 1: some folks who didn't agree with it or didn't think

963
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:21,399
Speaker 1: it worked. I think it was a waste of time.

964
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,840
Speaker 1: I want to hear from those as well, because you know

965
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,839
Speaker 1: when when Manisovarka and went on his tour, he went

966
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,839
Speaker 1: on a tour across the country and explaining why he's

967
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 1: doing this, and that's where he had the tractors. They did.

968
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 1: It's not going to work. You know, He's gonna be fight.

969
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:39,320
Speaker 1: So somebody's gonna you know, the co intail pro people

970
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 1: are gonna get involved. All that kind of heat. Then

971
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 1: he said, he kept hearing all that negative sty but

972
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 1: he put that to the curve. But he had felt

973
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 1: in his heart that we as black people as a nation,

974
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:52,320
Speaker 1: not just black men, but black people as a group,

975
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 1: we needed.

976
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:53,919
Speaker 3: This well now.

977
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 2: And can we look at the non religious definition of atonement,

978
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 2: which basically means at one where all of the black men.

979
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 2: You know, of course there's so much deaf and so

980
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 2: much crime going on, so much black on black as

981
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 2: they would say, going on. So it was to agree

982
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:16,759
Speaker 2: and to get out of that disagreement and become at

983
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 2: one and having all of those men together to unite

984
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 2: with a singular purpose, and that is to stop the disagreements,

985
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 2: to stop the enmity in the black community.

986
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:31,839
Speaker 3: Would you agree with that?

987
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 4: Oh?

988
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:36,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. The question is, though, how can we

989
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 1: keep that spirit, that vibe alive. Somewhere along the way

990
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 1: we sort of lost it, We dropped it. I don't

991
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 1: know how, or maybe it's generational thing, you know, if

992
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:49,279
Speaker 1: just imagine if we could have passed on that that

993
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 1: spirit to our young people. Wow, that's what I'm talking about.

994
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 1: Ten and a half the top of the our family

995
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:58,240
Speaker 1: just joined us. This is the anniversary of the Midland

996
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 1: Man March, and we just using the march. Did it

997
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 1: impact you? Did you go or if you didn't go,

998
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 1: what's your thoughts about it? Eight hundred and four or

999
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 1: five zero seventy eight seventy six Carls calling us from

1000
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:12,320
Speaker 1: Virginia's Online one. Carl, your thoughts about the mail of

1001
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:12,880
Speaker 1: Man March?

1002
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 9: Just good morning?

1003
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 6: Hear me?

1004
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 9: Yes, sir, okay, I just wanted to say I called me.

1005
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 9: I'm on the Metro because it was allowing the backround.

1006
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:23,360
Speaker 10: This where he is?

1007
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 11: But I was, I was like in attendance that day,

1008
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 11: but I wanted to see there because I was in

1009
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 11: the service. I was in the Navy. We were out

1010
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 11: to speak at the time. I remember on the lead

1011
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 11: up to the march and when the.

1012
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 6: Minister had all of the different.

1013
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 11: Stop killing of reading for men only, and he was

1014
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 11: selling out all these.

1015
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:49,359
Speaker 7: Different places because brothers were.

1016
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:50,720
Speaker 9: Dealing with the violence.

1017
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 11: Going on in our community.

1018
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 12: Well that was going on.

1019
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 11: But also remember in nineteen ninety five we also had

1020
00:55:56,960 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 11: the OJ verdict came out like right in October, right

1021
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 11: before the march.

1022
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:08,799
Speaker 1: Remember yeah, yeah, go ahead, Oh, I mean there.

1023
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:10,880
Speaker 9: Was a lot of there was a lot of the

1024
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 9: atmosphere was very highly charged and whatnot. And so when

1025
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:16,879
Speaker 9: when the ministers even you came around and kept doing

1026
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:20,359
Speaker 9: to stop the chilling talks and everything, that really put

1027
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:22,279
Speaker 9: us in the right frame of mind, in the right

1028
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:25,840
Speaker 9: spirit to go forward in the march. And there was

1029
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 9: a lot of haters and a lot of doubts outside

1030
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 9: of the community. Yeah happened, but it did.

1031
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, So thanks carl Thanks for sharing that. Those those

1032
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:38,919
Speaker 1: haters in Dallas, they didn't want to see it happen.

1033
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 1: They didn't want to see black man come to there

1034
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 1: in unity gose. All they wanted to do is see

1035
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 1: is fussing and fighting is Bob Marley would say twelve

1036
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 1: after the top of the let's go to Raleigh, Charles,

1037
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 1: Charlie is waiting for us. He's online. Three Charlie, your

1038
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 1: thoughts on the middle of man March.

1039
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 8: There's carl I was there and I was the care

1040
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 8: of dub at the time in Baltimore, and I picked

1041
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 8: up two uh there's two two random brothers man and uh.

1042
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:02,319
Speaker 8: We rode all together and like I said, it was

1043
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 8: it was just beautiful and grand.

1044
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:07,360
Speaker 1: Rising to your call, Charlie, did you did impact? You

1045
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 1: did you change after attending the march.

1046
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 8: Of course, I was a pothead during that time. And man,

1047
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 8: I quit smoking putt.

1048
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 4: Yeah I did. It really changed me.

1049
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 1: Call and I think you haven't smoked a joint since. Yeah,

1050
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 1: and the backside this man.

1051
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 4: It's been and man, it's been over thirty years.

1052
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 1: Man, yeah, wow years congratulations thirty years. Yes, it is

1053
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 1: thirty years today. Thanks to some of the.

1054
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 4: Brothers, they were selling plaques. Uh huh. I happened to

1055
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 4: get a plaque, you know, saying I was a tenant

1056
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 4: to me your man march. So I got the history too.

1057
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 1: Good and share that with your children passing, do you

1058
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 1: know what I Yeah, back on my mental Good for you, Charlie,

1059
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you for checking in for rally. All right,

1060
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 1: Sister Fahima is calling online. Seven She's calling from Washington,

1061
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 1: d C. Grand Rising Sister for Hima.

1062
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 13: Yes, wanted mister Nelson. I was a student at Howard University.

1063
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 13: I just began that year and at the crack of dawn,

1064
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:12,960
Speaker 13: I made my way to the DC Armory to meet

1065
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 13: my then boyfriend along with hundreds of other men, beautiful

1066
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 13: black men who were coming down from New York City

1067
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 13: on buses. That were coordinated by brother Bob Law and

1068
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 13: it was a wonderful experience to see beautiful black men

1069
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:33,480
Speaker 13: just there. As you mentioned, there was no conflict, there

1070
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 13: was no issues. And then ten years later I had

1071
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,920
Speaker 13: the privilege of being one of the co anchors of

1072
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 13: the Million Mores March that took place on the mall,

1073
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 13: and that's all I wanted to wanted to share.

1074
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 1: No, before you go, though, did did you feel left

1075
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 1: out when Minnisofaca a million man marches a woman? Did

1076
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 1: you feel that, you know, women should have been included

1077
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 1: at a certain level, No.

1078
00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 13: Not at all, because there were women who were involved

1079
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 13: in the organizing. The late doctor Betty Shabaz also spoke,

1080
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 13: and there were other women who were there. And again

1081
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 13: I was there waiting the arrival of my then boyfriend

1082
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 13: at the DC Armory where we you know, where the

1083
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 13: buses that came in. And no, not at all.

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Speaker 1: All right, thank you for sharing that with us, Sister Fahima.

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Speaker 1: Fourteen after the tough there, Ron motens joining us, Ron

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Speaker 1: Grand Rising.

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Speaker 4: Are you doing, brother Rising?

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00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 1: Hey, good to have you. Ronnie is one of the

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00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 1: movies and shakers of the events that are going to

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00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 1: take place in Washington, d C. He's going to share

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Speaker 1: that with us now, not just the anniversary of the

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00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 1: Melee Man March, but also of Unifest. So Ron were

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00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 1: you at the march? Can you can you share that

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00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 1: with us?

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00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 4: Oh? Yeah?

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00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:56,919
Speaker 12: It was one of the most impactful moments of my life.

1097
00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 12: Not only was I at the march, I was working

1098
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 12: with She's I Don't Smoke, the Brothers and Sisters, and

1099
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 12: I was a youth spokesperson at the time and it

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01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 12: allowed me to work with the Millionaire in March and

1101
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 12: speaking from a youth perspective in organizing youth around the region.

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01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:16,360
Speaker 12: I actually spoke with minutes of Furricon on the same

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01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 12: stage at Howard University organizing youth and met people like

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01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 12: Winniam Mendela Stokely Carmichael before he passed. And that's something

1105
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 12: that money can buy. And you know, the day other

1106
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 12: mediumare in March, we were there six and five in

1107
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 12: the morning setting up to sell shirts and it was

1108
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 12: cloudy and looked like it was going to rain, and

1109
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:42,600
Speaker 12: I remembered the livation and the drums playing in the

1110
01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 12: sky opening up and I never forgot that day. Going

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01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:49,440
Speaker 12: back to when people said the milliamare march wasn't going

1112
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 12: to happen to the day where it looked like it

1113
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 12: was going to be gloomy and rainy, and the sun

1114
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 12: came out. And that experience has given me a different

1115
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 12: level of spirituality, trying to stand that the God and

1116
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 12: need but having a connection with my creator that when

1117
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:06,920
Speaker 12: we not want to manifest something, nothing.

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01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 4: Can stop us but us and fear.

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01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 12: So we believe and we practice, then we had the

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01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:15,320
Speaker 12: power to do whatever we want to do. So this

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01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:17,960
Speaker 12: is a very important day for us and for me

1122
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:20,920
Speaker 12: because a lot of things that I've been able to

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01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 12: do comes from not having fear and believing what I

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01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:26,440
Speaker 12: can do from this very day.

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Speaker 1: And Ron hold that thought right there. We got to

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01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:30,160
Speaker 1: step aside for a few minutes. I'll let you finish

1127
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 1: your thought when you come back. And also wanted you

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01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:33,800
Speaker 1: to fill us in about Unifest for the folks who

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01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 1: are not from Washington, d C. If you can tell

1130
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 1: us about Unifest how that came about, because also that

1131
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 1: the anniversary is going to be celebrated as well this weekend. Family,

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01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:44,520
Speaker 1: you two can join this conversation on the anniversary of

1133
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 1: the Million Man March. Reach out to us at eight

1134
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 1: hundred and four or five zero, seventy eight, seventy six,

1135
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 1: and we'll take your phone calls next the top for

1136
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 1: our factual rolling with us on this Thursday morning here

1137
01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 1: the thirtieth anniversary of the Million Man March. I guess

1138
01:01:57,160 --> 01:01:58,840
Speaker 1: this Ron moten Ron is going to give us some

1139
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 1: information about the festivities for the Million Man March celebration,

1140
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 1: also for Unifest as well. Before we do that, though,

1141
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:08,680
Speaker 1: I will get some calls about Channel on ninety five

1142
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 1: point nine. So so Kevin has been pushing the button

1143
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:14,280
Speaker 1: and say Kevin, what's going on? Hey listen, Hey, come man.

1144
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:17,600
Speaker 2: I've been getting a few calls of people trying to

1145
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 2: reach us on ninety five nine. But now ninety five nine,

1146
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:26,640
Speaker 2: I'm proud to announce is a news station that's I

1147
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:28,160
Speaker 2: don't know if it's part of Radio one or not,

1148
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:33,920
Speaker 2: but it's a Spanish station. And my associate here is saying,

1149
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:37,680
Speaker 2: because he doesn't speak Spanish, we don't know what to

1150
01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:40,400
Speaker 2: call the station except.

1151
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:44,280
Speaker 3: It's no longer w O L, and that's that's what

1152
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 3: it is.

1153
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:48,120
Speaker 2: So for those of you who've been calling, you could

1154
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:53,360
Speaker 2: probably reach WOL on HD three you go to on

1155
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:55,680
Speaker 2: your radio, you go to one oh two point three

1156
01:02:55,840 --> 01:03:00,640
Speaker 2: and then go tuned down to the HD three frequency

1157
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:02,840
Speaker 2: and you'll be able to pick us up loud and clear.

1158
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:07,000
Speaker 1: Wald Wall all right. And also I think on HG

1159
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 1: three on the ninety three point nine just turn your

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01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 1: dial down to the HG three channels on one or

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01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 1: two point three is Kevin said, and ninety three point

1162
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:18,920
Speaker 1: nine twenty one after the top. Dah. Let's keep rolling

1163
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 1: though with Ron so ron uh for Unifest. Also you're

1164
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:25,400
Speaker 1: involved in Unifest. Ron is the go go king of Washington,

1165
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:29,720
Speaker 1: d C. Rod tell us about unifestor the folks who

1166
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:32,280
Speaker 1: aren't familiar with Unifest, because that would stopped for a while.

1167
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 1: But also you're going to be celebrating that this weekend.

1168
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:36,120
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:39,960
Speaker 12: So the Unifest was created by Reverend Willie Wilson and

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01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:43,560
Speaker 12: his team at Union Tymbo Baptist Church. I forgot the

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01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:47,600
Speaker 12: exact year, but some time ago, and it was a

1172
01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:53,440
Speaker 12: festival in Washington, D C. That you know, what are

1173
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:56,960
Speaker 12: the many festivals that are gone that was gone? For instance,

1174
01:03:57,160 --> 01:04:00,880
Speaker 12: the Georgia Avenue Caribbean Festival? Did they do in Baltimore

1175
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 12: Georgia Avenue Day? Adams Morgan and other family family cookout

1176
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:11,920
Speaker 12: that we used to do every year downtown and over OURFK,

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01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 12: Like all these these cultural festivals that are so important

1178
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 12: to preserving our culture, handing traditions down to our young people,

1179
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:24,440
Speaker 12: we're gone. So I've been talking to Reverend Willie Wilson

1180
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:26,800
Speaker 12: for years, and he decided this was the best year

1181
01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:30,560
Speaker 12: to bring it back because it was a horrific incident.

1182
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:32,959
Speaker 12: The cause of the go away we had no control over.

1183
01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:36,320
Speaker 12: And I think it's been gone for like nineteen years.

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01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:38,480
Speaker 4: So now.

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Speaker 1: Now, was it always held in Anacostia? Was it always

1186
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:44,880
Speaker 1: held in Anacostia, NFL?

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01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:49,400
Speaker 12: Yes, always in Anacostia, yep. And this I mean it

1188
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:52,880
Speaker 12: brought out all the activists, all the artists from around

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01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:56,640
Speaker 12: the country, the gospel, the go go, the R and

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Speaker 12: D vendors from all over the world.

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Speaker 4: Team.

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Speaker 12: I mean, you're talking about hundreds of thousand people that

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01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:06,480
Speaker 12: came out for a two day festival in Anacosta in

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01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:08,560
Speaker 12: the heart of Washington, DC.

1195
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:10,959
Speaker 4: And then we bringing it back.

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01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 12: Willie Wilson made the call and this year we're gonna

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Speaker 12: block off W Street. He would have the stage there,

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01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:21,480
Speaker 12: we would have performances until four o'clock and then after

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Speaker 12: that We're encouraging people to go to the different businesses

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01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:27,800
Speaker 12: in Anacosti who will also have events like the Go

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01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:31,360
Speaker 12: Go Museum. We have two bands performing. We had the

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01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:34,840
Speaker 12: museum open. We have wild Wheels for the children to

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01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:37,120
Speaker 12: cross the street in a parking lot where they can

1204
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:41,720
Speaker 12: ride these cars and obstacle courses made up. I mean,

1205
01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:44,680
Speaker 12: it's gonna be wonderful. It's a craft feast. There's some

1206
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:48,800
Speaker 12: other people doing around the corner. I mean, Anacosti is

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01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:52,560
Speaker 12: DC's bets kept secret. So that's why this walk that

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01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 12: we're doing this evening that Radins been talking about, we

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01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:58,240
Speaker 12: did it for June Team, for me and the sisters

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01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:01,960
Speaker 12: Malane Douglas in the business in the Anacostia. We put

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01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:07,200
Speaker 12: it together and we're re enacting the lantern walk that

1212
01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:11,560
Speaker 12: our ancestors took every evening after work when they walked

1213
01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:14,080
Speaker 12: into Barry Farms and built it with their hands with

1214
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:14,840
Speaker 12: the money.

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Speaker 4: For the Freeman Institute.

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01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:20,439
Speaker 12: And these same formally enslaved people were going to take

1217
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:23,120
Speaker 12: the money that was left away and built started the

1218
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:26,840
Speaker 12: construction of Howard University. And so telling these stories in

1219
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 12: this history is important because it connects us to our

1220
01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:34,320
Speaker 12: ancestors and lets our young people know how great we are,

1221
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:36,320
Speaker 12: but also the things we had to go through to

1222
01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:41,880
Speaker 12: build beautiful institutions and communities in Southeast so they appreciate

1223
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:42,480
Speaker 12: it more.

1224
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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 12: So this is very important. So we're gonna be doing

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01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:47,840
Speaker 12: that this evening in the spirit of the media man March,

1227
01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:51,200
Speaker 12: and then there will be a celebration in the church

1228
01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:54,200
Speaker 12: led by Reverend Willie Wilson that we've been working on

1229
01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:57,840
Speaker 12: for like the last six weeks with reverends and community

1230
01:06:57,920 --> 01:07:02,720
Speaker 12: activists and man men, I must say, to put this together,

1231
01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:06,640
Speaker 12: called matsis Bury. I was just on the phone with her,

1232
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:09,080
Speaker 12: That's why I was late, making sure we have everything

1233
01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:11,400
Speaker 12: straight with the young people who are going to be

1234
01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:15,080
Speaker 12: the Blacks and Wax from the Southeast Tennis Learning Center

1235
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:18,320
Speaker 12: who will be one will be dressed up as Frederick

1236
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:22,280
Speaker 12: Frederick Frederick Dustas giving a speech so journal truth. I

1237
01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:27,040
Speaker 12: believe Harriet Tugman and one of the nakastine Anacosti Indians

1238
01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:30,840
Speaker 12: who once resided there. So I mean, this is gonna

1239
01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 12: be a very impactful. We had forty children at Anacostia

1240
01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:41,400
Speaker 12: a Library making lanterns with their hands last night and

1241
01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:43,880
Speaker 12: the side by Side band was there performing with him.

1242
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:44,920
Speaker 4: And then.

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01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:48,400
Speaker 12: We also I ran into a brother and the bank

1244
01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:51,760
Speaker 12: for one of the fraternities and he's bringing forty children

1245
01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:53,040
Speaker 12: this evening.

1246
01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:53,160
Speaker 4: He said.

1247
01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:55,240
Speaker 12: I said, I got some landers for it. He said, no,

1248
01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:57,720
Speaker 12: we already made ours. So like this is like a

1249
01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:02,960
Speaker 12: very very powerful a situation going on. I'm in route

1250
01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:08,280
Speaker 12: right now in Baltimore to meet my Baltimore brothers because

1251
01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:11,600
Speaker 12: we're locking in with them brothers in Baltimore and Annapolis,

1252
01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:14,959
Speaker 12: and they were prayer breakfast this morning and then they're

1253
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:18,160
Speaker 12: coming down to DC on the train the same way

1254
01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:20,240
Speaker 12: they did during a millionaire in March to March for

1255
01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:22,800
Speaker 12: this diseasing. So if that ain't powerful, I don't know

1256
01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:24,679
Speaker 12: whether's brother all.

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Speaker 1: Right, Thanks for sharing that with us. At twenty eight

1258
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:29,599
Speaker 1: after the top, they have again family. If you missing

1259
01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:33,639
Speaker 1: us on a ninety five point nine, it's go school down.

1260
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:35,719
Speaker 1: If you got HD in you're radio. Most new cars

1261
01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:38,040
Speaker 1: have HD now and you can pick us up on

1262
01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:40,720
Speaker 1: let me see here one of two point three and

1263
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:44,120
Speaker 1: also ninety three point nine on the HD three channels.

1264
01:08:44,240 --> 01:08:46,160
Speaker 1: HD three channels on one of two point three and

1265
01:08:46,280 --> 01:08:49,759
Speaker 1: ninety three Port nine, or you can just download the app.

1266
01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:54,599
Speaker 1: But Wldcnews dot com and wl the Baltimore dot com

1267
01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:56,280
Speaker 1: and you can listen that way. Most people listen to

1268
01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:59,280
Speaker 1: online anyway. But Ron, I want to go back to

1269
01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:03,280
Speaker 1: unifest Snow unifest what how did that start? How did

1270
01:09:03,280 --> 01:09:06,000
Speaker 1: that that come about? Because that was that was before

1271
01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:07,800
Speaker 1: I think that was before the million man marsh That

1272
01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:10,839
Speaker 1: was in nineteen eighty two that it was launched.

1273
01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:11,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was.

1274
01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:13,720
Speaker 12: It was before the media man March as it was.

1275
01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:19,519
Speaker 12: I know, I came home from prison in ninety one.

1276
01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:22,479
Speaker 12: I'm sorry, I went to prison in ninety one, came

1277
01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:25,800
Speaker 12: home in ninety four. When I came home, I didn't

1278
01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:28,920
Speaker 12: miss a unifest ever ever since then. You know, I'm

1279
01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:31,400
Speaker 12: saying from that point on, it was it was so

1280
01:09:31,680 --> 01:09:37,600
Speaker 12: powerful man, to see so many black people together like

1281
01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:44,360
Speaker 12: a Black renaissance, and so happy and celebrating, so many vendors,

1282
01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:47,960
Speaker 12: so many there's so many people young, old.

1283
01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:48,519
Speaker 6: You know.

1284
01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:52,559
Speaker 12: One of the things that stopped in our community is

1285
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:59,120
Speaker 12: the intergenerational unity, you know, working together and talking and

1286
01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:04,360
Speaker 12: spreading messaging and folklore and things that we went through

1287
01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:07,639
Speaker 12: in our in the past. And that's what the Unifesse

1288
01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:10,439
Speaker 12: was about. It was about connecting young people with the

1289
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:13,479
Speaker 12: older people. Nobody felt out of place, no matter what

1290
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:16,360
Speaker 12: your age was, and we got to bring those type

1291
01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:19,960
Speaker 12: of moments back. And that's what we're doing today in

1292
01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:22,000
Speaker 12: the third year anniversary, in the spirit of the Media

1293
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:24,639
Speaker 12: Man March. And that's what the Media Man March did.

1294
01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:27,600
Speaker 12: They brought young and old together. They had young and

1295
01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:31,559
Speaker 12: old helping make it happen. It wasn't just our elders

1296
01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:33,680
Speaker 12: doing it. They made sure they had young people from

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Speaker 12: around the country involved in the organizing. And that's one

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Speaker 12: thing I think that our leadership has lacked in some degree.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 12: We had people in office about to die in office,

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01:10:44,720 --> 01:10:47,800
Speaker 12: you know, and having told anybody to come behind them,

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01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:49,680
Speaker 12: and we had to get out of that state of

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01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:53,280
Speaker 12: mind and stop being selfish and make sure that we

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01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:59,360
Speaker 12: bring back the intergenerational collaboration and teaching and loving each other.

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Speaker 12: So I think that's what so powerful about today and

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01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:05,720
Speaker 12: what was so powerful to me about the Nia Man

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Speaker 12: March because Al Malakue and Reverend Wilson and some of

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01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:14,720
Speaker 12: the great sisters who were around at that time, Man,

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01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:17,280
Speaker 12: they rapped they wrapped their arms around brothers like me,

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Speaker 12: and that wouldn't have made it without them.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, I thought, right there, Ron, thirty minutes

1312
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Speaker 1: after the time of their family, just checking in. I

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01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:26,799
Speaker 1: guess there's Ron Moten. Ron's a community activists in Washington,

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01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:29,680
Speaker 1: d C. You should giving us an update on the celebrations.

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01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:32,360
Speaker 1: They're going to take place all this weekend, actually the

1316
01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:35,560
Speaker 1: midle of Man March and also a unifestor in Anacostia,

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01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:37,040
Speaker 1: and all these things are going to be in an

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01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:40,080
Speaker 1: Anacosta section of the district. So Ron, but let's go

1319
01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:42,800
Speaker 1: back to the Million Man March. Did you when you

1320
01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:44,800
Speaker 1: heard about the march? Do you think it would be

1321
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:47,799
Speaker 1: that successful? What about that you wanted to go? What's

1322
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:50,080
Speaker 1: what spoke to your your spirit that you wanted to

1323
01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:52,679
Speaker 1: join this celebration if you will?

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01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:53,720
Speaker 4: Well, I got said.

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01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:56,479
Speaker 12: I had just came home and I was working with

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01:11:56,520 --> 01:12:01,000
Speaker 12: SEASPI and al Malite was connected to the nation and

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01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:03,400
Speaker 12: so we were going to the meetings up on Kennedy Street.

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01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:05,440
Speaker 4: I spoke at the press.

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01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:08,040
Speaker 12: Conference announcing the million Man March, one of them. Anyway,

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01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:10,920
Speaker 12: I still had to picture on my wall at the

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01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:13,040
Speaker 12: podium with the brothers from ce Final and smoked the

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01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:16,120
Speaker 12: brothers and I was speaking and I will never forget that.

1333
01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:19,880
Speaker 4: Like it was so before this. I went to.

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01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:23,400
Speaker 12: Prison five times, and every time I came home, I

1335
01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:26,559
Speaker 12: didn't use my talent that God gave me the right way.

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01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:31,240
Speaker 12: I had people like civil rights attorney Willan Haywood and

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01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:32,599
Speaker 12: de Wi Browntree to help raise.

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Speaker 4: They were family, you know.

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01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:36,519
Speaker 12: I had all type Malcolm xIC with my cousin. I

1340
01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:39,000
Speaker 12: had all types of things going for me, but I

1341
01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:41,080
Speaker 12: didn't use the right way. I decided to be a

1342
01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:45,080
Speaker 12: drug dealer because nothing was came to me to say, hey, boy,

1343
01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:47,639
Speaker 12: used your skills the right way. And this time when

1344
01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:50,479
Speaker 12: I came home, I came home right around the time

1345
01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:53,840
Speaker 12: of the development of the Million Man March, you know,

1346
01:12:54,280 --> 01:12:56,519
Speaker 12: and it was the best thing that could ever happen

1347
01:12:56,600 --> 01:12:59,200
Speaker 12: to me because I was able to use my skills

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01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:03,400
Speaker 12: set the right way to uplift my people and uplift myself.

1349
01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:06,320
Speaker 12: And it gave me opportunities to meet people and be

1350
01:13:06,439 --> 01:13:09,559
Speaker 12: around people for them to breathe in me and to

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01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:11,840
Speaker 12: see how they moved. And that was the blessing in

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01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:15,559
Speaker 12: the Media Man March for me and so many others

1353
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:18,200
Speaker 12: who experienced the same type of things with different brothers,

1354
01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:23,040
Speaker 12: different organizations, different sisters who breathed into us, and that's

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01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:25,960
Speaker 12: what these young people need today. You know, young people

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01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:28,080
Speaker 12: go in and out of jail, but if they don't

1357
01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:30,120
Speaker 12: come home to something that that's going to show them

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01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:33,000
Speaker 12: how to use their challenge the right way. Normally you

1359
01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:35,800
Speaker 12: go back to what you know best. And unfortunately with

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01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:39,640
Speaker 12: the music being corrupted with this poison, they put in

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01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:42,400
Speaker 12: it because they know how powerful the music is and

1362
01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:44,840
Speaker 12: what is has led to all of our movements, but

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01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:49,759
Speaker 12: advocacy and activism, then this is what happens. So movements

1364
01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:53,519
Speaker 12: like the opportunities like this, they're so very important and

1365
01:13:53,560 --> 01:13:57,200
Speaker 12: it was so very important to my spiritual and growth

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01:13:57,200 --> 01:13:57,840
Speaker 12: as a leader.

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01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:01,600
Speaker 1: Family back and then twenty eight minutes away from the

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01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:03,799
Speaker 1: top of the hour, I guess it's a community activist.

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01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:05,599
Speaker 1: He's part of the One of the persons who set

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01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:08,040
Speaker 1: up the Go Go Museum in Washington, d C. Is

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Speaker 1: Ron Moten. You just heard his story. This is the

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01:14:10,160 --> 01:14:12,000
Speaker 1: thirtieth anniversary of the Million Man March.

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01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:12,680
Speaker 3: I fewer there.

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01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:15,000
Speaker 1: Close up and let us know and let us know

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01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:17,400
Speaker 1: if it changed you, Ron says, it changed him. What

1376
01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:19,960
Speaker 1: what do you think about it that changed you? Ron

1377
01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:22,200
Speaker 1: what you heard the minute to speak or was it

1378
01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:24,559
Speaker 1: some other other There's a whole bunch of folks who spoke.

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01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:27,439
Speaker 1: It was like all day from six in the morning.

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01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:31,080
Speaker 12: For me, it was about being involved and seeing something

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01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:34,880
Speaker 12: that everybody said wasn't going to happen happen, you know,

1382
01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:36,880
Speaker 12: And that's why we got to make sure young people

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01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:41,080
Speaker 12: are involved. Like a lot of leaders now, they speak

1384
01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:44,799
Speaker 12: to the choir. So when they speaking, they're speaking older

1385
01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:47,599
Speaker 12: young People's here is they not speaking to the same

1386
01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:50,200
Speaker 12: frequency because they're not engaging with the young people. So

1387
01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:53,120
Speaker 12: they can speak on the same frequency when needed. So

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01:14:53,160 --> 01:14:55,879
Speaker 12: we have a lot of brothers and sisters that speaking,

1389
01:14:56,320 --> 01:14:59,320
Speaker 12: but when they speak, they speaking to the choir. You

1390
01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:02,840
Speaker 12: know what I'm saying. They're not on the same frequency

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01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:03,920
Speaker 12: as some of our young.

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01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:05,120
Speaker 4: People, so they can't pull them in.

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01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:07,920
Speaker 12: With a millionaire in March, there were people who were

1394
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:10,720
Speaker 12: speaking on the same frequency as me, and it was

1395
01:15:11,080 --> 01:15:14,080
Speaker 12: involved and engaged, So it was easy.

1396
01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:16,840
Speaker 4: For me to get pulled in. You know.

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01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:19,760
Speaker 12: It was sexy for me. You know, it was something

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01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:22,400
Speaker 12: that I wanted to do. So we have to do

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01:15:22,439 --> 01:15:24,960
Speaker 12: the same thing now with these young people when they

1400
01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:27,880
Speaker 12: can pull it in every direction where the coolest guy

1401
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:30,240
Speaker 12: now on the block sometimes the guy with the biggest gun,

1402
01:15:30,360 --> 01:15:32,040
Speaker 12: not the guy with the with the brains.

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01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:33,360
Speaker 4: Right, So.

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01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:37,320
Speaker 1: How do we change that, though, Ron, how do we

1405
01:15:37,400 --> 01:15:39,840
Speaker 1: change that? You were so right about that, But how

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01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:42,120
Speaker 1: we changed that mindset with our young people?

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01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:44,160
Speaker 4: Well, I give you a prime example.

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01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:45,439
Speaker 12: It ain't got nothing to do.

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01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:46,600
Speaker 4: With the streets.

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01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:49,560
Speaker 12: So one of the things that happened in d C.

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01:15:50,520 --> 01:15:53,519
Speaker 12: Let's go back to the Control Board in nineteen ninety sixty,

1412
01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:55,880
Speaker 12: the Control Board ninety six ninety seven came. One of

1413
01:15:55,880 --> 01:15:59,200
Speaker 12: the first things they cut in DC was music and

1414
01:15:59,200 --> 01:16:02,719
Speaker 12: trades out of DC keep public schools, which took away

1415
01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:07,320
Speaker 12: the direct lines to the middle class in Washington, DC.

1416
01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:10,439
Speaker 12: Because when you left DC public schools, you worry about artists.

1417
01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:12,840
Speaker 12: You had to trade, or you went into government, or

1418
01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:15,040
Speaker 12: you went to college, right, but you had a way

1419
01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:16,920
Speaker 12: to be successful and make.

1420
01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:21,080
Speaker 4: It to the middle class. Right. So what happened was.

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01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:23,840
Speaker 12: After that they start closing all the go gos down

1422
01:16:24,439 --> 01:16:27,800
Speaker 12: all the things that we did to engage young people

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01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:31,320
Speaker 12: and give them positive platforms to get attention doing the

1424
01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:34,599
Speaker 12: right things. So for the last fourteen years, for instance,

1425
01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:38,120
Speaker 12: in Washington, DC, young people have nowhere to go to

1426
01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:40,559
Speaker 12: be young people like we did. So what they did

1427
01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:44,200
Speaker 12: was they created their own platforms. They use social media

1428
01:16:44,200 --> 01:16:47,599
Speaker 12: and they do these meetups with no guidance from adults.

1429
01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:48,680
Speaker 4: And you see all this.

1430
01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:51,439
Speaker 12: Craziness like you saw the Navy yard and everything else,

1431
01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:54,080
Speaker 12: and everybody blames the young people, but we don't blame

1432
01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:57,120
Speaker 12: the fact that ourselves that we took away all the

1433
01:16:57,160 --> 01:17:00,880
Speaker 12: positive platforms that young people had to get it. These

1434
01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:03,880
Speaker 12: go go bands and these DJs and all these other

1435
01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:06,639
Speaker 12: things that young people did were the things they did

1436
01:17:06,680 --> 01:17:09,639
Speaker 12: to get attention. Doing positive things.

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01:17:09,640 --> 01:17:10,960
Speaker 4: They kept them off the streets.

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01:17:11,240 --> 01:17:13,760
Speaker 12: The other thing they did was they took out the

1439
01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:17,600
Speaker 12: only program that had a positive in an action with

1440
01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:22,040
Speaker 12: police and children was the officer friendly program, right and

1441
01:17:22,080 --> 01:17:25,280
Speaker 12: the Metropolitan Boys Club, where young people, for instance, in

1442
01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:29,280
Speaker 12: Ballou were twenty three different neighborhoods came there every day

1443
01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:32,800
Speaker 12: and engaged with the police who didn't have police outfits on.

1444
01:17:33,160 --> 01:17:36,640
Speaker 12: But they were their tutors, they were their coaches. They

1445
01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:39,080
Speaker 12: gave them a place to be safe, and they had

1446
01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:41,920
Speaker 12: to put the children out of school every day. They

1447
01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:44,519
Speaker 12: had to put them out of school every day because

1448
01:17:45,000 --> 01:17:47,960
Speaker 12: the school was safer than some of their.

1449
01:17:47,880 --> 01:17:50,920
Speaker 4: Households, right, and they got rid of that program.

1450
01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:53,840
Speaker 12: So these are all the things. And twenty three different

1451
01:17:53,840 --> 01:17:56,519
Speaker 12: neighborhoods who had a positive interaction with the police. They

1452
01:17:56,600 --> 01:17:58,479
Speaker 12: knew it was about locking them up and they can

1453
01:17:58,520 --> 01:18:01,280
Speaker 12: go have a conversation prevents them from happening first of

1454
01:18:01,320 --> 01:18:03,599
Speaker 12: them just getting locked up or being labeled as a snitch.

1455
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:06,880
Speaker 12: So these are the things that we took away from

1456
01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:09,880
Speaker 12: our community and we got to bring back. We got

1457
01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:13,400
Speaker 12: to bring back things for young people to get attention

1458
01:18:13,960 --> 01:18:16,840
Speaker 12: doing the right thing, all right.

1459
01:18:16,720 --> 01:18:18,640
Speaker 1: And Ron, hold that thought right there. I'll let you

1460
01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:20,360
Speaker 1: expound on that in a moment. We got to step

1461
01:18:20,360 --> 01:18:22,160
Speaker 1: aside and get caught up with the ladies news in

1462
01:18:22,200 --> 01:18:24,519
Speaker 1: our different cities. Family, just checking in. This is the

1463
01:18:24,560 --> 01:18:27,280
Speaker 1: anniversary of the Million Man March. It took place thirty

1464
01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:29,320
Speaker 1: years ago. Where were you If you were there, let

1465
01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:31,080
Speaker 1: us know, give us a call it eight hundred four

1466
01:18:31,160 --> 01:18:33,880
Speaker 1: or five zero seventy eight seventy six. You can speak

1467
01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:35,760
Speaker 1: with Ron Moten and myself and we'll take your phone

1468
01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:38,960
Speaker 1: calls after the news. That's next. Frand Rising family, Thanks

1469
01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:41,680
Speaker 1: for staying with us on this Thursday morning. Here the

1470
01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:44,880
Speaker 1: anniversary of the Million Man March. Thirty years ago, two

1471
01:18:44,920 --> 01:18:47,280
Speaker 1: million brothers gathered on the ball in Washington, d C.

1472
01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:51,679
Speaker 1: The commissioned to hear speeches from a variety of folks

1473
01:18:51,720 --> 01:18:54,479
Speaker 1: are out there, including the Minister of our Congress there.

1474
01:18:54,520 --> 01:18:57,160
Speaker 1: And our guest right now is Ron Moten. Ron is

1475
01:18:57,640 --> 01:19:00,280
Speaker 1: a community activist in Washington, d C. They have whateveral

1476
01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:03,240
Speaker 1: events taking place to commemorate that march and also unifest

1477
01:19:03,280 --> 01:19:05,720
Speaker 1: as well that it takes place in Anacostia, and they've

1478
01:19:05,840 --> 01:19:08,320
Speaker 1: actually started before the Malie Man March. But before we

1479
01:19:08,360 --> 01:19:10,080
Speaker 1: go back to Ron, let me just remind you come up,

1480
01:19:10,360 --> 01:19:13,439
Speaker 1: another of the architects of the Millionaire March will join us.

1481
01:19:13,439 --> 01:19:17,479
Speaker 1: I'll be doctor Milana Krenga, doctor Karenga, along with pastor

1482
01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:20,200
Speaker 1: doctor Willie Wilson. As you heard earlier, they were some

1483
01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:22,600
Speaker 1: of the folks that Minister farakahnt call first when he

1484
01:19:22,720 --> 01:19:25,599
Speaker 1: decided to put this march on. Doctor Kring is going

1485
01:19:25,640 --> 01:19:27,920
Speaker 1: to give us his side of the story, what happened

1486
01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:29,559
Speaker 1: and how it pulled it off. In fact, he wrote

1487
01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:31,960
Speaker 1: the manifesto for the Million Man March, and that's where

1488
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:36,160
Speaker 1: remind you. Tomorrow is Friday and Thursday actually so no,

1489
01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:38,840
Speaker 1: Tomorrow's Friday. That's for real, Tomorrow's Friday, and we're gonna

1490
01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:40,439
Speaker 1: give you a chance to free your mind and join

1491
01:19:40,520 --> 01:19:42,839
Speaker 1: us for our open Phone Friday program at beginning promptly

1492
01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:45,479
Speaker 1: at six am Eastern time right here in Baltimore on

1493
01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:48,160
Speaker 1: ten ten WLB and also in the DMV on AM

1494
01:19:48,160 --> 01:19:50,800
Speaker 1: fourteen fifty w L. This is where you get a

1495
01:19:50,840 --> 01:19:52,320
Speaker 1: chance to you know, let us know what's going on

1496
01:19:52,360 --> 01:19:54,720
Speaker 1: in your community or response to some of the guests

1497
01:19:54,760 --> 01:19:56,040
Speaker 1: you heard of this week. So make sure that you

1498
01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:59,519
Speaker 1: join us starting early at six am Eastern time, because

1499
01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:00,880
Speaker 1: a lot of folks went to the last minute and

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01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:02,880
Speaker 1: we don't don't get a chance to speak with them.

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01:20:03,040 --> 01:20:04,960
Speaker 1: And Ron said, I'll let you finish your thought, but

1502
01:20:05,080 --> 01:20:06,000
Speaker 1: well it's taking place.

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01:20:07,360 --> 01:20:10,040
Speaker 12: Yeah, like I was, I was, we were talking about

1504
01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:12,080
Speaker 12: things that we need to do. I think one of

1505
01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:15,920
Speaker 12: the things that I left out too is our spiritual institutions,

1506
01:20:16,080 --> 01:20:19,479
Speaker 12: which many of them had been under attack, and places

1507
01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:22,040
Speaker 12: like DC. A lot of people don't remember when their

1508
01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:26,080
Speaker 12: gentrification started and they started taking all the parking spaces

1509
01:20:26,080 --> 01:20:29,760
Speaker 12: of the churches in Washington, DC and force the congregation

1510
01:20:30,439 --> 01:20:32,920
Speaker 12: to stop coming because they couldn't even pop outside of

1511
01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:36,600
Speaker 12: their churches. So there was an attack on our spiritual institutions.

1512
01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:39,559
Speaker 12: The memberships went down, churches had they had to start

1513
01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:44,439
Speaker 12: selling the churches, the mosque and things of that nature.

1514
01:20:44,479 --> 01:20:48,439
Speaker 12: So now we had to understand that that was by design,

1515
01:20:48,600 --> 01:20:49,960
Speaker 12: and we had to figure out a way to get

1516
01:20:49,960 --> 01:20:53,519
Speaker 12: our people back into our spiritual institutions. Doesn't matter what

1517
01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:56,200
Speaker 12: it is, but we had to start doing the things

1518
01:20:56,200 --> 01:21:00,439
Speaker 12: that our ancestors did to connect, educate, and move our

1519
01:21:00,439 --> 01:21:03,400
Speaker 12: people forward. Because a lot of us see the things

1520
01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:06,080
Speaker 12: that we see in society now because people are not

1521
01:21:06,479 --> 01:21:08,800
Speaker 12: spiritually in clarent to the things that God is where

1522
01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:12,519
Speaker 12: we at. So I just think that that's another piece

1523
01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:14,160
Speaker 12: that we had to focus on. How do we get

1524
01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:20,360
Speaker 12: our people back into our spiritual institutions and practicing not

1525
01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:23,800
Speaker 12: the spoochism, but the stuff that brings us together and

1526
01:21:23,960 --> 01:21:27,400
Speaker 12: unice us and gets ready to fear that we see

1527
01:21:27,520 --> 01:21:30,240
Speaker 12: often with people to sit around and go along and

1528
01:21:30,280 --> 01:21:33,519
Speaker 12: get along, and it sets us back so much, so

1529
01:21:33,680 --> 01:21:35,120
Speaker 12: far all.

1530
01:21:35,160 --> 01:21:37,240
Speaker 1: Right, thirteen away from the top of our family. If

1531
01:21:37,240 --> 01:21:39,920
Speaker 1: you attend the Millia Man Marshal, it changed you. Let

1532
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:43,240
Speaker 1: us know. If you didn't, you're against it, then your

1533
01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:45,679
Speaker 1: thoughts about it. Reach out to us. At eight hundred

1534
01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:48,519
Speaker 1: and four or five zero seventy eight seventy six, Gloria

1535
01:21:48,600 --> 01:21:51,160
Speaker 1: is calling us from Arlington and Virginia. She's on line

1536
01:21:51,160 --> 01:21:53,599
Speaker 1: one Grand Rising. Gloria, your thoughts on the MAILI Man

1537
01:21:53,640 --> 01:21:54,799
Speaker 1: March rom with Ron Morten.

1538
01:21:57,120 --> 01:22:02,639
Speaker 14: I remember my sons attended the Million Man matt I didn't.

1539
01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:05,400
Speaker 14: I stayed at home that they and cooked food so

1540
01:22:05,720 --> 01:22:08,360
Speaker 14: and I took him down to the Pentagon so they

1541
01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:11,360
Speaker 14: could uh get on the subway to go over there.

1542
01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:15,719
Speaker 14: And uh some young men came up from Florida and everything,

1543
01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:19,519
Speaker 14: and uh I stayed home all day and listened to

1544
01:22:19,560 --> 01:22:23,040
Speaker 14: the radio the TV. I think you had a station

1545
01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:26,479
Speaker 14: dedicated to where you could see the Million Man March.

1546
01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:32,840
Speaker 14: And uh they when they came when when they got out,

1547
01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:35,599
Speaker 14: I fixed food. So I'm and everything and we had

1548
01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:39,479
Speaker 14: a good time. Hello.

1549
01:22:42,200 --> 01:22:43,960
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this story, cause do you feel

1550
01:22:44,240 --> 01:22:46,360
Speaker 1: left out? Did you feel left out when you heard

1551
01:22:46,360 --> 01:22:49,160
Speaker 1: about the million Mare in March? Because as a woman,

1552
01:22:49,160 --> 01:22:52,240
Speaker 1: did you feel like you were being kicked to the curb?

1553
01:22:53,320 --> 01:22:53,479
Speaker 6: No?

1554
01:22:54,760 --> 01:22:57,120
Speaker 14: I mean I I wasn't concerned about that kind of stuff.

1555
01:22:57,120 --> 01:23:03,080
Speaker 14: I have my own mind. I just stayed home and

1556
01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:07,040
Speaker 14: took foods of them and picked them up. And I

1557
01:23:07,160 --> 01:23:10,080
Speaker 14: have a picture of my son at the Median Man

1558
01:23:10,120 --> 01:23:12,559
Speaker 14: in March, and I called it the Median Man in

1559
01:23:12,600 --> 01:23:17,400
Speaker 14: March and he had on his uh toofy hand and

1560
01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:20,600
Speaker 14: vest that I had made him and they had a

1561
01:23:20,600 --> 01:23:21,080
Speaker 14: good time.

1562
01:23:22,360 --> 01:23:25,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, as this Ron mentioned, he changed him and Ron

1563
01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:29,040
Speaker 1: song with us right now, Glory, did he change your son?

1564
01:23:29,080 --> 01:23:29,240
Speaker 3: Did?

1565
01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:31,320
Speaker 1: Were they changed after the March? Did you see a

1566
01:23:31,400 --> 01:23:31,920
Speaker 1: change in them?

1567
01:23:32,840 --> 01:23:35,959
Speaker 14: Well, my young son he's dead now, but he always

1568
01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:39,240
Speaker 14: was a rebel and did what he wanted to do.

1569
01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:43,320
Speaker 14: My oldest son was more conservative, but he still went

1570
01:23:43,400 --> 01:23:46,160
Speaker 14: to the media man in March. I don't know. I

1571
01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:47,760
Speaker 14: guess it changed him some too.

1572
01:23:49,520 --> 01:23:51,040
Speaker 1: All right, thank you for sharing that with.

1573
01:23:51,080 --> 01:23:54,080
Speaker 6: Us, Gloria, Okay, then thank you all right?

1574
01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:56,680
Speaker 1: Uh Ron. She mentioned one of her her sons was

1575
01:23:56,720 --> 01:23:59,200
Speaker 1: conservative ones the rebel. I guess that's a lot of

1576
01:23:59,400 --> 01:24:02,000
Speaker 1: family diamond Usually one goes one way, one goes the

1577
01:24:02,080 --> 01:24:05,080
Speaker 1: other way. But do you think conservative brothers and sisters

1578
01:24:05,120 --> 01:24:07,120
Speaker 1: showed up to the Marchians, think that they had an

1579
01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:10,040
Speaker 1: impact on them or did they stay away?

1580
01:24:11,120 --> 01:24:15,360
Speaker 4: I think all type of brothers showed up. Now, when we.

1581
01:24:15,439 --> 01:24:19,679
Speaker 12: Talked about conservatives, I don't know is that the right word.

1582
01:24:20,720 --> 01:24:23,960
Speaker 12: I consider myself conservative in some ways. I'll never forget

1583
01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:28,839
Speaker 12: when Donald Trump won and I went to a meeting

1584
01:24:29,760 --> 01:24:33,840
Speaker 12: at the Trump Hotel and it was all these black

1585
01:24:33,880 --> 01:24:36,840
Speaker 12: brothers in there, and I went in there and I was.

1586
01:24:36,800 --> 01:24:37,200
Speaker 15: Like, WHOA.

1587
01:24:37,240 --> 01:24:39,640
Speaker 12: I don't never see you guys in my community, you

1588
01:24:39,680 --> 01:24:40,360
Speaker 12: know what I'm saying.

1589
01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:42,680
Speaker 4: So a lot of people.

1590
01:24:42,439 --> 01:24:45,400
Speaker 12: Call these self conservative. I don't know if they really conservative,

1591
01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:48,760
Speaker 12: because to me, some of the things that our grandparents

1592
01:24:49,560 --> 01:24:52,720
Speaker 12: did were very conservative. So they don't practice with our

1593
01:24:52,720 --> 01:24:55,679
Speaker 12: grandparents practice. They don't come back to the community uplift

1594
01:24:55,720 --> 01:24:58,120
Speaker 12: the next brother and sister. They don't make sure that

1595
01:24:58,439 --> 01:25:01,280
Speaker 12: things that were passed down come down to the children

1596
01:25:01,280 --> 01:25:03,800
Speaker 12: where they do. A lot of people call theirself conservative

1597
01:25:03,880 --> 01:25:05,840
Speaker 12: these days. They just figured out a way to get

1598
01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:08,240
Speaker 12: money and forget about their people. So I don't know

1599
01:25:08,360 --> 01:25:13,000
Speaker 12: that's really conservative, you know what I'm saying. So I

1600
01:25:13,080 --> 01:25:16,280
Speaker 12: think that some of the people who were conservative then,

1601
01:25:16,400 --> 01:25:19,400
Speaker 12: like Brothers in the Nation and other people.

1602
01:25:19,240 --> 01:25:22,679
Speaker 6: Are being screened by a smart call blocker. Please say

1603
01:25:22,680 --> 01:25:24,120
Speaker 6: your name, is that.

1604
01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:28,400
Speaker 1: Your is that your faens? Now that's not mean, Kevin,

1605
01:25:28,439 --> 01:25:31,479
Speaker 1: we got yeah, go ahead.

1606
01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:34,280
Speaker 4: So so No, what I'm saying.

1607
01:25:34,080 --> 01:25:38,320
Speaker 6: Is this number. Are we screened by a smart call blocker?

1608
01:25:39,560 --> 01:25:42,040
Speaker 1: Kevin? Can you can you get that? Take that out

1609
01:25:42,080 --> 01:25:43,960
Speaker 1: for us? All right? Ron?

1610
01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:47,679
Speaker 12: So what I was saying is I think the Nation

1611
01:25:47,760 --> 01:25:52,520
Speaker 12: of Islam is conservative. I think Reverend Willie Wilson is conservative.

1612
01:25:52,600 --> 01:25:54,880
Speaker 12: I think we we wed let people tell us what

1613
01:25:54,960 --> 01:25:57,280
Speaker 12: conservative is versus what it really is, you know what

1614
01:25:57,320 --> 01:25:59,920
Speaker 12: I'm saying. So I think all the conservative brothers and

1615
01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:03,720
Speaker 12: sister we're there, those who fight for black liberation. To me,

1616
01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:05,600
Speaker 12: that is being conservative.

1617
01:26:06,120 --> 01:26:08,600
Speaker 4: So I think they were there if you ask me.

1618
01:26:08,720 --> 01:26:08,920
Speaker 16: Yeah.

1619
01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:11,679
Speaker 1: But you know, Ron, that's a good point because many

1620
01:26:11,680 --> 01:26:15,320
Speaker 1: of us black folks are socially conservative, fiscally conservative, We're

1621
01:26:15,360 --> 01:26:18,320
Speaker 1: just not politically conservative, you know what I'm saying. I

1622
01:26:18,320 --> 01:26:20,920
Speaker 1: think that's where the difference lies, and that's where we

1623
01:26:21,040 --> 01:26:22,640
Speaker 1: draw the line. But I want to go back to

1624
01:26:22,680 --> 01:26:25,960
Speaker 1: the events that are taking place later today, because are

1625
01:26:26,040 --> 01:26:28,160
Speaker 1: you You said you're on your way to Baltimore. Correct,

1626
01:26:28,680 --> 01:26:29,040
Speaker 1: I'm here.

1627
01:26:29,080 --> 01:26:31,839
Speaker 12: I'm sitting right outside. I just saw Reverend Willie Wilson

1628
01:26:32,280 --> 01:26:34,240
Speaker 12: walking the door for the brunch, me having out here

1629
01:26:34,240 --> 01:26:36,120
Speaker 12: with the brothers from Baltimore.

1630
01:26:36,200 --> 01:26:37,760
Speaker 4: So yeah, I'm excited, man.

1631
01:26:37,800 --> 01:26:41,639
Speaker 12: I mean, this was all about anything that brings us

1632
01:26:41,680 --> 01:26:45,680
Speaker 12: together as a people and also have us connect with

1633
01:26:45,720 --> 01:26:47,920
Speaker 12: people who might not look like us, who love us,

1634
01:26:48,160 --> 01:26:50,759
Speaker 12: because there are you know, I studied on the devil

1635
01:26:51,240 --> 01:26:53,360
Speaker 12: Amelia Bodon Robinson and Annie Lee Coop.

1636
01:26:53,360 --> 01:26:54,000
Speaker 4: I used to take.

1637
01:26:53,880 --> 01:26:57,200
Speaker 12: Buslows and children to Alabama and one of the things

1638
01:26:57,200 --> 01:27:00,120
Speaker 12: they taught me was never become a racist yourself. And

1639
01:27:00,160 --> 01:27:02,719
Speaker 12: they told me, make sure you organize that your people

1640
01:27:02,760 --> 01:27:05,519
Speaker 12: and connect with good people in other places. And That's

1641
01:27:05,560 --> 01:27:07,960
Speaker 12: what I've always done, and that's why I've always been

1642
01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:10,479
Speaker 12: able to survive no matter what happens. And I think

1643
01:27:10,520 --> 01:27:13,240
Speaker 12: we got to teach our people that you get yourself

1644
01:27:13,280 --> 01:27:16,519
Speaker 12: together first, but then you find good people other places

1645
01:27:16,520 --> 01:27:19,200
Speaker 12: you work with them too, for the greater good of humanity.

1646
01:27:19,560 --> 01:27:22,680
Speaker 12: And I think that's the message here, and that's the

1647
01:27:22,720 --> 01:27:25,920
Speaker 12: message we have to continue to follow. We don't love ourselves,

1648
01:27:26,439 --> 01:27:29,719
Speaker 12: we can't expect nobody else to love us, and loving

1649
01:27:29,720 --> 01:27:33,479
Speaker 12: ourselves is holding people accountable in our community. You know,

1650
01:27:33,560 --> 01:27:35,479
Speaker 12: one of the reasons why Trump was able to get

1651
01:27:35,479 --> 01:27:38,400
Speaker 12: the green light to come to DC is because we

1652
01:27:38,439 --> 01:27:41,439
Speaker 12: had young people out here contacting people before and five

1653
01:27:41,520 --> 01:27:43,479
Speaker 12: times and right back in the street, and we didn't

1654
01:27:43,479 --> 01:27:46,000
Speaker 12: do nothing to hold them accountable. So if we don't

1655
01:27:46,040 --> 01:27:48,320
Speaker 12: want the police to hold people accountable, we got.

1656
01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:50,839
Speaker 4: To hold them accountable. Somebody got to do it, because.

1657
01:27:50,920 --> 01:27:53,880
Speaker 1: Well, let's go, let's go there for a minute, shaving

1658
01:27:53,880 --> 01:27:56,000
Speaker 1: away from the top. Now, the city council in DC

1659
01:27:56,520 --> 01:28:00,360
Speaker 1: is thinking about, well, considering extending the curfew. They blame

1660
01:28:00,520 --> 01:28:02,920
Speaker 1: a lot of the violence, if you will, on our

1661
01:28:02,960 --> 01:28:05,160
Speaker 1: young people, and they did it over the summer. It

1662
01:28:05,240 --> 01:28:08,040
Speaker 1: now school's back in sessions, so they figured they could

1663
01:28:08,120 --> 01:28:10,400
Speaker 1: drive the curfew. But you've got one city council person

1664
01:28:10,439 --> 01:28:14,120
Speaker 1: who wants to extend the curfew, and your thoughts on that.

1665
01:28:14,560 --> 01:28:17,040
Speaker 1: Did the curfew work? Did it curb the violence in

1666
01:28:17,520 --> 01:28:18,559
Speaker 1: the in the district or not?

1667
01:28:19,720 --> 01:28:21,479
Speaker 12: I think it helped in some ways, but I don't

1668
01:28:21,520 --> 01:28:23,880
Speaker 12: think it's the answer. My thing is, how do we

1669
01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:27,400
Speaker 12: get parents to be parents again? You have children, twelve

1670
01:28:27,760 --> 01:28:33,080
Speaker 12: thirteen year old children on business strips breaking in cars.

1671
01:28:33,080 --> 01:28:37,120
Speaker 12: I came outside one day in average city seventeen cars

1672
01:28:37,120 --> 01:28:39,400
Speaker 12: broken into seventeen.

1673
01:28:38,880 --> 01:28:43,120
Speaker 4: Cars, right, Like, nobody's going to accept that.

1674
01:28:44,080 --> 01:28:48,000
Speaker 1: And my thing is the second though, the wrong. Were

1675
01:28:48,000 --> 01:28:50,559
Speaker 1: they just broken into it? Just people just smash the windows.

1676
01:28:50,600 --> 01:28:51,519
Speaker 1: Were it's just vandals?

1677
01:28:52,960 --> 01:28:53,160
Speaker 4: No?

1678
01:28:53,160 --> 01:28:56,120
Speaker 12: No, they have a thing now where they got this

1679
01:28:56,680 --> 01:28:59,360
Speaker 12: device where they can break a window in a second

1680
01:28:59,840 --> 01:29:03,240
Speaker 12: and they'll hit cars. They organize, They jump off the

1681
01:29:03,240 --> 01:29:06,240
Speaker 12: car and one person's driving, the other two people are

1682
01:29:06,280 --> 01:29:08,080
Speaker 12: going to each car that they breaking and going in.

1683
01:29:08,160 --> 01:29:10,840
Speaker 12: One's breaking, one's going in and looking for guns and

1684
01:29:10,880 --> 01:29:13,479
Speaker 12: money and things like that. So that's what they do.

1685
01:29:13,760 --> 01:29:17,920
Speaker 12: But my point is things like this and carjacking. If

1686
01:29:17,960 --> 01:29:19,960
Speaker 12: we don't want the police and others to deal with

1687
01:29:20,000 --> 01:29:22,920
Speaker 12: our people, we gotta deal with it. And there's no

1688
01:29:23,000 --> 01:29:25,599
Speaker 12: way in hell the twelve and thirteen year olds are

1689
01:29:25,680 --> 01:29:28,880
Speaker 12: out at two and three in the morning in locations

1690
01:29:28,920 --> 01:29:32,240
Speaker 12: and terrorizing people. And my thing is, like, I know

1691
01:29:32,280 --> 01:29:34,280
Speaker 12: how this happened. We talked about they took away all

1692
01:29:34,280 --> 01:29:36,720
Speaker 12: the activities that a lot of us had when we

1693
01:29:36,800 --> 01:29:37,280
Speaker 12: came up.

1694
01:29:37,479 --> 01:29:39,479
Speaker 4: We know what the root causes are, but.

1695
01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:41,559
Speaker 12: The same took it. What are we doing as a

1696
01:29:41,600 --> 01:29:45,160
Speaker 12: community to help these parents but also hold them accountable.

1697
01:29:45,320 --> 01:29:47,519
Speaker 12: We can't keep on blaming the white man for everything.

1698
01:29:48,280 --> 01:29:50,560
Speaker 12: Some of the stuff we can do in house and

1699
01:29:50,760 --> 01:29:53,160
Speaker 12: or the white men get the opportunity to come and

1700
01:29:53,160 --> 01:29:54,920
Speaker 12: deal with our people the way they want to deal

1701
01:29:54,960 --> 01:29:58,479
Speaker 12: with them. So we can't have it both ways. We

1702
01:29:58,640 --> 01:30:01,680
Speaker 12: have to address it. I've seen it worked. I've been

1703
01:30:01,720 --> 01:30:04,000
Speaker 12: a part of a program where we had the most

1704
01:30:04,080 --> 01:30:06,600
Speaker 12: violent children in DC when we had peace of all it.

1705
01:30:07,160 --> 01:30:09,040
Speaker 12: And what we did was we had a program called

1706
01:30:09,080 --> 01:30:12,200
Speaker 12: Aggressive Mentoring. They let brothers out with crimes like this

1707
01:30:12,360 --> 01:30:15,160
Speaker 12: old worse. But what we did we went and made

1708
01:30:15,160 --> 01:30:17,559
Speaker 12: sure they went to school every morning. We made sure

1709
01:30:17,560 --> 01:30:19,120
Speaker 12: they made their curfew every evening.

1710
01:30:19,240 --> 01:30:20,559
Speaker 4: But we took them on trips.

1711
01:30:20,640 --> 01:30:22,639
Speaker 12: We took them down south to meet people like Belva

1712
01:30:22,680 --> 01:30:26,200
Speaker 12: A Million, Boughton Robinson, Annie Lee Cooper and things like that.

1713
01:30:26,400 --> 01:30:29,000
Speaker 12: We put food and refrigerator. But then we held their

1714
01:30:29,040 --> 01:30:32,160
Speaker 12: ads accountable. We said, we did our partner, Now you're

1715
01:30:32,160 --> 01:30:33,240
Speaker 12: gonna do your damn party.

1716
01:30:33,240 --> 01:30:36,480
Speaker 4: It ain't no more excuses. Can't keep making up excuses.

1717
01:30:36,760 --> 01:30:39,439
Speaker 12: But you can't hold people accountable if you're not dealing

1718
01:30:39,439 --> 01:30:42,400
Speaker 12: with the issues that caused the problem simultaneously.

1719
01:30:43,040 --> 01:30:44,439
Speaker 1: Right and hold up there right there, we got to

1720
01:30:44,479 --> 01:30:46,160
Speaker 1: take a set beside and get caught up in the ladies'

1721
01:30:46,160 --> 01:30:48,160
Speaker 1: trafficking rather than not that differenceeas wanted to come back though,

1722
01:30:48,360 --> 01:30:51,240
Speaker 1: explain how the events are going to take place this weekend,

1723
01:30:51,600 --> 01:30:55,240
Speaker 1: the Milli Man March anniversary and also unifast dinniversary, how

1724
01:30:55,280 --> 01:30:58,000
Speaker 1: they addressed those problems that you just shared with us. Family,

1725
01:30:58,040 --> 01:31:00,879
Speaker 1: You two can join our conversations. Rondon is a community

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Speaker 1: actress in Washington, d C. Reach out to us at

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Speaker 1: eight hundred and four five zero seventy eight seventy six

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Speaker 1: and we'll take your phone calls. After the traffic and

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Speaker 1: weather that's next and grand rising family, and thanks for

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Speaker 1: starting your Thursday with us. I guess is Ron Moten.

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Speaker 1: Ronnie is a community activist in Washington, d C. Before

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Speaker 1: we left for the traffic up data tell us about

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Speaker 1: some of the issues with our young people in the district.

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Speaker 1: But also this weekend is going to be u It's

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Speaker 1: the anniversary of the commemoration of the Middle and Man

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Speaker 1: March and also Unifested Table all weekend long in Washington, DC.

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Speaker 1: Those of you with the march, let us know and

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Speaker 1: let us know if you were changed or it impacted you.

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Speaker 1: So Ron, tell us what some of the events that

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Speaker 1: taking place. I think they start today. If I fund.

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Speaker 12: Mistaken yesterday we had the unity walk, and there's the

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Speaker 12: lantern up as we reenact what our ancestors did walking

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Speaker 12: across into Freedom across the even Street bridge was caused

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Speaker 12: Freedom crossing. And then there's going to be a big

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01:31:56,960 --> 01:32:02,280
Speaker 12: celebration in Union Timber Baptist Church following us at walk.

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Speaker 12: The walk starts at five twenty six, twenty eight shop

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Speaker 12: at sunset and we're gonna walk straight to the church

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Speaker 12: and celebrate the Navy Yard on M Street.

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Speaker 4: I needs a bridge.

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Speaker 12: That's where we're gonna start twelve oh one M Street,

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01:32:19,840 --> 01:32:24,559
Speaker 12: come across the light down Eleventh Street into Anacostia. Like

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Speaker 12: I say, it's gonna be a lot of people. It's

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01:32:26,680 --> 01:32:30,200
Speaker 12: gonna be very spiritual and powerful. We encourage everybody to

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01:32:30,400 --> 01:32:34,920
Speaker 12: come out. If you need any information about the march,

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01:32:35,400 --> 01:32:39,639
Speaker 12: you can email me at info at go Go Museum

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Speaker 12: Cafe dot com and we will respond with all the details.

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Speaker 12: Or you can go on our Instagram page. On my

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Speaker 12: Instagram page Ronald Molten on Instagram might have all the detail.

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Speaker 4: All the posts about everything that's going on.

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Speaker 12: With the Unifest and today and tomorrow's the day of

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01:32:58,960 --> 01:33:04,720
Speaker 12: fasting and meditation, and then Saturday is the big Unifest day.

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Speaker 12: So let's get going, y'all. And there are things we're

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01:33:08,360 --> 01:33:12,000
Speaker 12: setting up for actors. We rathers called on people to

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Speaker 12: organize men bring back some of those programs, writes of

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01:33:15,640 --> 01:33:18,120
Speaker 12: passages and other things that we had for our young people.

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01:33:18,960 --> 01:33:22,280
Speaker 12: So there's some organizers going to keep people engaged with

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01:33:22,320 --> 01:33:26,120
Speaker 12: each other after the walk in our community. So, and

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01:33:26,120 --> 01:33:28,160
Speaker 12: we got to lock in with brothers in the region.

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01:33:28,200 --> 01:33:29,920
Speaker 12: We got to all come together. We got to start

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01:33:29,960 --> 01:33:32,639
Speaker 12: working together. The brothers and sisters. We are the answers

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Speaker 12: to our problems.

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Speaker 4: So and we can.

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Speaker 12: We have a lot of successful people in our community

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Speaker 12: who have the answers and doing great things.

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Speaker 4: And we just got to work together better and more.

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Speaker 1: The young people. Do you have something because you know

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Speaker 1: some of them weren't around. This was especially for the

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Speaker 1: Melian March that was thirty years ago. Do you have

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Speaker 1: any events for the young people sort of you know,

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01:33:56,360 --> 01:33:58,680
Speaker 1: shared the spirit of that march thirty years ago and

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Speaker 1: she can infuse it. Why young people, because you mentioned

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Speaker 1: some of the problems that our youngsters are getting involved

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Speaker 1: in in attrition, do you have things for them to do?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, So we have activities all the time at the

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Speaker 12: museum where we bring young people and you know older

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Speaker 12: people together, intergenerational, we know other people who are doing

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01:34:16,640 --> 01:34:19,360
Speaker 12: the same things in the community. I think that we

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01:34:19,439 --> 01:34:21,599
Speaker 12: just got to come together and bring those young people

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Speaker 12: together because one of the things I tell people a

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Speaker 12: lot of times we create gangs as adults. How do

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01:34:27,520 --> 01:34:31,120
Speaker 12: you do that, Well, you separate yourself from these adults

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01:34:31,160 --> 01:34:32,880
Speaker 12: or I don't work with them over here. I don't

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01:34:32,880 --> 01:34:34,960
Speaker 12: work with those people over there. We don't go over there.

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01:34:35,120 --> 01:34:37,800
Speaker 12: And the young people are listening and watching, so they

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01:34:37,840 --> 01:34:39,519
Speaker 12: picked up some of the habits that we have. So

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01:34:39,560 --> 01:34:41,960
Speaker 12: when adults do the right thing, a lot of times

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Speaker 12: the children follower. So our goal is to get the

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Speaker 12: organizations working together more and bringing the young people together more.

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Speaker 4: Work with the coaches.

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Speaker 12: The coaches have a lot of influence over our young

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01:34:53,520 --> 01:34:56,080
Speaker 12: people in the community. So we got to empower the

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01:34:56,120 --> 01:34:59,000
Speaker 12: coaches with just more than twos to coach, but twos

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01:34:59,000 --> 01:35:01,240
Speaker 12: to deal with mental health, twos to bring the young

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Speaker 12: people together outside of the football field, the basketball fields.

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Speaker 12: I mean, if basketball courts, to track fields and things

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01:35:07,920 --> 01:35:10,559
Speaker 12: like that. So we have to strategize. But to me,

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Speaker 12: the most important thing is just to do something. A

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01:35:14,360 --> 01:35:17,400
Speaker 12: lot of people talk, but they don't do every day

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Speaker 12: that you come on MLK, We're open our doors to

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Speaker 12: do something. They are others who are doing the same thing.

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Speaker 12: We just have to work together. And one thing about me,

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Speaker 12: I don't have no problems following anybody's league. So I'm

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01:35:29,280 --> 01:35:31,880
Speaker 12: gonna be helping Revel what he's doing. And we're going

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Speaker 12: to keep on doing the things we're doing with the

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01:35:33,600 --> 01:35:37,240
Speaker 12: culture and teaching people our history so do they be

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Speaker 12: motivated to do the right thing. So those are things

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Speaker 12: that I will continue to do with don't new DC

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Speaker 12: and all the other things that we've been doing for

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Speaker 12: years that have gotten policy and things change to have

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Speaker 12: help black people dramatically. For instance, we have over six

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Speaker 12: new businesses, restaurants and a concert.

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Speaker 4: Because of policy.

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Speaker 12: So when we start talking about helping black people, I

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Speaker 12: also got to be talking about policy.

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Speaker 4: Because all the wars that.

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Speaker 12: Are being fought in the United States right now about

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01:36:06,000 --> 01:36:10,160
Speaker 12: beliefs and policies and politics are local.

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Speaker 4: So the local.

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Speaker 12: Politics affect us all more than anything, and we had

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Speaker 12: to be engaged and make sure these policies are uplifting

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Speaker 12: and helping us do the things that we're talking about

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Speaker 12: as well.

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Speaker 4: Hey, brother Ron, economics.

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Speaker 2: Hey, brother Ron Modin, I wanted to ask you. You

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Speaker 2: were talking about the initiatives to help the young people,

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Speaker 2: and now you're talking about the political entrees you may

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Speaker 2: have to perform. What would it take to bring back

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Speaker 2: those programs? I love the go go music idea you

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01:36:41,280 --> 01:36:45,200
Speaker 2: had earlier. And what will it tag? And you know,

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Speaker 2: some sort of movement, a go fund me account or something,

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01:36:49,080 --> 01:36:49,879
Speaker 2: what do you think.

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Speaker 12: Well, we're raising money for the museum to do some

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01:36:53,040 --> 01:36:54,760
Speaker 12: of the programs that we talk about. You can go

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Speaker 12: to our website. But there has been a movement that

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Speaker 12: not just me, but a lot of young people that

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01:37:00,160 --> 01:37:02,840
Speaker 12: have been a part of the Washington DC and that

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01:37:02,920 --> 01:37:07,080
Speaker 12: movement has brought young people back into activism, but it's

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Speaker 12: also given young people victories.

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Speaker 4: That we haven't seen us sometimes.

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Speaker 12: So if we empower young people to be activists, but

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Speaker 12: also teach them how to be activists, because you have

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01:37:19,720 --> 01:37:21,640
Speaker 12: it's one thing to be in the street protesting, but

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01:37:21,640 --> 01:37:25,439
Speaker 12: there's another thing knowing how to take a protest into

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01:37:25,520 --> 01:37:28,880
Speaker 12: a strategy, to action to victory. So we have to

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01:37:28,920 --> 01:37:32,040
Speaker 12: teach young people not to be used by so called movements,

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Speaker 12: but really creating movements that lead to action, they get

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Speaker 12: the outcomes that you want. And that's what I'm into

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Speaker 12: teaching young people. You know, I've had a lot of

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Speaker 12: people that have come behind me who are doing great things,

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Speaker 12: who come after me, and I'm proud of them. I'm

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Speaker 12: proud of the work that they're doing. So there are

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Speaker 12: a lot of young people doing positive things. They just

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01:37:49,560 --> 01:37:52,320
Speaker 12: don't get the spotlight. So we got to highlight them

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Speaker 12: and enhance what they're doing, because we can't be the

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Speaker 12: people who just hold on to the mic and hold

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01:37:59,080 --> 01:38:01,800
Speaker 12: on to everything, don't show them how to follow and

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01:38:01,880 --> 01:38:04,200
Speaker 12: then fly higher than us. And that's what we have

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01:38:04,280 --> 01:38:06,760
Speaker 12: to do more in our community because there also were

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01:38:06,760 --> 01:38:09,040
Speaker 12: going to keep it doing great things. We just need

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01:38:09,040 --> 01:38:11,439
Speaker 12: to get more of them and connect with them and

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Speaker 12: fly together.

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Speaker 1: Got it and Ron right after top there doctor Krengus

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Speaker 1: joining this Moman child. But let me my question to you,

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Speaker 1: how do we keep the spirit of the Milieman March, Floyd,

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Speaker 1: How do we keep it continued? Because it seems like

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01:38:23,520 --> 01:38:27,160
Speaker 1: when after the march, right after March, everybody was jacked

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01:38:27,240 --> 01:38:29,880
Speaker 1: up and you know, wanted to help and there's all

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01:38:29,920 --> 01:38:33,639
Speaker 1: this unity talk, and somehow it dissipated after the years

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01:38:33,720 --> 01:38:35,200
Speaker 1: going on, by how do we.

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Speaker 12: Reclaim I don't know if it dissipated. I mean I

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01:38:37,600 --> 01:38:39,200
Speaker 12: never stopped, and I know a lot of people who

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01:38:39,200 --> 01:38:42,360
Speaker 12: never stopped. The problem is, you know, they gave ferkon

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01:38:42,520 --> 01:38:45,240
Speaker 12: the mic and that was a big mistake they realized,

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01:38:45,240 --> 01:38:47,840
Speaker 12: so they never gave him or people like him the

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01:38:47,880 --> 01:38:50,920
Speaker 12: mic again to show what we're doing. So a lot

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01:38:50,960 --> 01:38:53,360
Speaker 12: of the things that are happening that are positive in

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01:38:53,400 --> 01:38:55,680
Speaker 12: our community never get it get a shout out, They

1888
01:38:55,720 --> 01:38:58,519
Speaker 12: never get the spotlight. And if you can convince people

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01:38:58,880 --> 01:39:01,320
Speaker 12: that there's no hope of it, there's no power, then

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01:39:01,360 --> 01:39:04,360
Speaker 12: you win, right. So in a lot of cases, there

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01:39:04,400 --> 01:39:06,839
Speaker 12: are a lot of great things that happened that nobody

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01:39:06,920 --> 01:39:09,800
Speaker 12: knows about. So I wouldn't say that the.

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Speaker 4: Spirit of the Millionmare March stopped.

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Speaker 12: I would say that people always try to find the

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01:39:13,920 --> 01:39:16,760
Speaker 12: negative and highlight that versus all the great things that

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01:39:16,840 --> 01:39:19,880
Speaker 12: came from things like the millionaire in March. And I

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01:39:19,880 --> 01:39:23,520
Speaker 12: can tell you firsthand, I know countless people who started businesses,

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01:39:23,520 --> 01:39:25,880
Speaker 12: and some of those businesses are still going on. I

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01:39:25,880 --> 01:39:28,680
Speaker 12: can tell you countless people who got married. You know,

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01:39:28,880 --> 01:39:31,439
Speaker 12: I'm here with d Chase and Baltimore. They have a

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01:39:31,439 --> 01:39:33,920
Speaker 12: group of forty brothers and sisters that do business together.

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01:39:33,960 --> 01:39:34,799
Speaker 4: They are all married.

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Speaker 12: A lot of that came from the Million Man March.

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01:39:37,000 --> 01:39:38,840
Speaker 12: So like, these are the things that.

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01:39:38,840 --> 01:39:39,760
Speaker 4: Are not highlighted.

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01:39:39,880 --> 01:39:42,400
Speaker 12: So like right now, and in many cases it's not

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01:39:42,520 --> 01:39:44,759
Speaker 12: cool to get married, But how do you build family

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01:39:44,760 --> 01:39:47,679
Speaker 12: and community without marriage? You know, I say what I'm saying.

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01:39:47,720 --> 01:39:49,920
Speaker 12: So I'm just saying, these are the things that we

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01:39:49,960 --> 01:39:53,280
Speaker 12: have to start talking about and teaching right and highlighting

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Speaker 12: that are going on.

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Speaker 4: So people most think that the million maare Man shouldn't

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01:39:56,640 --> 01:39:58,040
Speaker 4: have an impact, because it did.

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Speaker 1: Right tall, We're gonna seak with doctor Malana Karrenga. He's

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Speaker 1: one of the architects of the meliam Man March. But

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Speaker 1: ron before we let you go, how can folks find

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01:40:06,880 --> 01:40:09,519
Speaker 1: out more what's going on this weekend in Washington, DC?

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Speaker 12: So they can go to the Union Temple's website. They

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01:40:12,920 --> 01:40:16,400
Speaker 12: have the whole iterary of everything that's going on. And

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01:40:16,439 --> 01:40:18,880
Speaker 12: then like I said, they can follow, don't you DC,

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01:40:19,479 --> 01:40:22,920
Speaker 12: They can follow Ronald Moten. We posting everything up that's

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01:40:22,960 --> 01:40:26,600
Speaker 12: going on, and we really appreciate everybody. We hope you

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01:40:26,640 --> 01:40:29,360
Speaker 12: can come out this evening and make a statement. Man,

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01:40:29,400 --> 01:40:33,240
Speaker 12: it's nothing like young people seeing Black people together in

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01:40:33,400 --> 01:40:36,600
Speaker 12: unity and love, and they need to experience this just

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Speaker 12: like we experienced.

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Speaker 4: It, you know.

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Speaker 12: I mean, it's so impactful for me as a young man,

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01:40:42,040 --> 01:40:43,960
Speaker 12: a twenty five year old young man who just came

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Speaker 12: home from prison a year before the box. So I'm

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Speaker 12: just saying, we had to get these young people these experiences.

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Speaker 4: It's spiritual, so we have to bring them out.

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01:40:52,880 --> 01:40:54,680
Speaker 12: We have to come out ourselves if we don't have

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01:40:54,720 --> 01:40:57,640
Speaker 12: no young people and show them what love looks like,

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01:40:57,720 --> 01:41:00,280
Speaker 12: show them what unity looks like, show them how we

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Speaker 12: connect to our creator and our ancestors.

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Speaker 4: Because it's powering us.

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Speaker 12: We hope everybody can come out and then come out

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01:41:06,240 --> 01:41:09,600
Speaker 12: for the unifest and bring back this great day of

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01:41:09,720 --> 01:41:15,320
Speaker 12: love and unity in the community that was so powerful

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Speaker 12: not just for that day, but it brought people together

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Speaker 12: to work together after that day.

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Speaker 4: So hope everybody can come out.

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Speaker 3: We appreciate you.

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Speaker 12: I'm about to step inside and pray with my brothers

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Speaker 12: from Baltimore and DC and eat some good food and

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Speaker 12: then I'm heading back to DC and get ready for

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Speaker 12: a beautiful, beautiful, beautiful day and Anacostia, the same bridge

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Speaker 12: that I enslaved ancestors walked across into freedom and build

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Speaker 12: a legacy in Anacostia. And I hope you can join

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Speaker 12: us today. So instead of marching downtown, we're marching into

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Speaker 12: Anacostia in unity and love and transitioning our resources into

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Speaker 12: that community.

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Speaker 4: And hope we can build more communities like.

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Speaker 12: Anacostia in Deanwood, Deposit, PG County, Baltimore, Annapolis, Virginia, and

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Speaker 12: keep it moving.

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Speaker 4: I love y'all, have a blessed day, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, thank you. Ron. Ron Boteney is a community activist

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Speaker 1: in Washington, d C. Is also I'm going to give

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Speaker 1: him a title the Mayor of Go Go Music. He's

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Speaker 1: built up the Go Go Museum in Washington, d C.

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Speaker 1: It's part of the panel that's putting on the anniversary

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Speaker 1: celebrations for the Million Man March in d C and

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Speaker 1: Baltimore and also the unifest as well. Let's turn our

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Speaker 1: attention at twelve. After the top of that turn, next

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Speaker 1: guests who happens to be one of the architects of

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Speaker 1: the Million Man March, Doctor Milana Karenga Grand Rising and

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Speaker 1: Habari Gane, doctor Korrena, Welcome back to the program. It's

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Speaker 1: doctor Krenga there.

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Speaker 17: Kevin, Yes, I'm sorry, good morning meeting everybody, got it.

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Speaker 17: Carl Yes, sir, thanks as usual for the invitation. It's

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01:42:47,720 --> 01:42:50,040
Speaker 17: always good as to come on your show.

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Speaker 6: And discuss with you issues. It's so critical to us

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Speaker 6: as the people into the world and be forward to that.

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Speaker 1: Let me just give you a little bit of a

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Speaker 1: background because folks just think that to just create a

1977
01:43:01,160 --> 01:43:04,120
Speaker 1: quansa and that was it. But you've been one of

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Speaker 1: our top scholars for years. Also you're the chair of

1979
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Speaker 1: the Department of African Studies Africana Studies of cal State

1980
01:43:10,120 --> 01:43:11,960
Speaker 1: Long Beach. Doctor kreng is the creator of the Pan

1981
01:43:11,960 --> 01:43:16,360
Speaker 1: African cultural holiday Kwansa the Angusu Sawa that's the Seven Principles.

1982
01:43:16,439 --> 01:43:19,759
Speaker 1: He's also the author of the authorative text titled Kwanza

1983
01:43:19,880 --> 01:43:23,320
Speaker 1: Celebration of Family, Community and Culture. He's an activist scholar.

1984
01:43:23,320 --> 01:43:25,920
Speaker 1: He's chair of the Organization US and the National Association

1985
01:43:26,040 --> 01:43:29,960
Speaker 1: COAITA Organizations, an executive director of the African American Cultural

1986
01:43:30,000 --> 01:43:33,120
Speaker 1: Center and Kawaida Institute of Pan African Studies. It's also

1987
01:43:33,160 --> 01:43:35,479
Speaker 1: the chair of the Black Community Clergy and Labor Alliance.

1988
01:43:35,880 --> 01:43:39,960
Speaker 1: Doctor Kurenga is the author of numerous scholarly articles and books,

1989
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Speaker 1: including essays on struggle, position and analysis, Kawaieda, The Question

1990
01:43:44,680 --> 01:43:47,640
Speaker 1: of Life and Struggle, My Art, The Moral Ideal of

1991
01:43:47,720 --> 01:43:51,720
Speaker 1: Ancient Egypt, The Study of Classical African Ethics, Introduction to

1992
01:43:51,760 --> 01:43:55,400
Speaker 1: Black Studies, fourth Edition, Huisa, The Sacred Wisdom of Ancient

1993
01:43:55,479 --> 01:43:59,639
Speaker 1: Egypt U The Ethical Teachings. And he's also currently writing

1994
01:43:59,680 --> 01:44:03,120
Speaker 1: a make work on the social and ethical philosophy of

1995
01:44:03,160 --> 01:44:06,519
Speaker 1: Malcolm X the title The Liberation and Ethics of Malcolm X,

1996
01:44:06,640 --> 01:44:11,519
Speaker 1: Critical Consciousness of Moral Grounting and Transformative Struggle. Doctor Karenga's

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01:44:11,600 --> 01:44:15,400
Speaker 1: recipient and numerous awards for scholarship, leadership and service, including

1998
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Speaker 1: the Paul Robinson Zora Neil Hurston Award for Scholarly Work

1999
01:44:18,840 --> 01:44:22,600
Speaker 1: of African World Culture, the CLR. James Award for Outstanding

2000
01:44:22,680 --> 01:44:26,240
Speaker 1: Publication of scholarly works that advanced the discipline of Africana

2001
01:44:26,280 --> 01:44:29,760
Speaker 1: and Black Studies, and also the Presidential Award for Exemplary

2002
01:44:29,880 --> 01:44:32,839
Speaker 1: Service of standing contribution to the field of Black Studies,

2003
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Speaker 1: all of this from the National Council for Black Studies.

2004
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Speaker 1: It's also the subject of a book by doctor Malefia

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Speaker 1: Santi titled Milana Kurenga Intellectual Portrait. Also he wrote the

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Speaker 1: manifesto for the Million Man March. So I just got

2007
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Speaker 1: to share those things with our audience again, Doctor kurank

2008
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Speaker 1: because they think that it's just sort of one dimensionally,

2009
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Speaker 1: so to speak. But I want them to know much more.

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Speaker 1: But let's get doctor Kranka. It will come upon a break.

2011
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Speaker 1: I want to talk about Kwanza. I want to find

2012
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Speaker 1: out not one's I want to talk a by the

2013
01:45:01,840 --> 01:45:03,840
Speaker 1: mill and Man March or fifteen after the top they

2014
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Speaker 1: are and how you got involved because you and doctor

2015
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Speaker 1: really Wilson. Willie Wilson was with us earlier and he

2016
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Speaker 1: was how you got the phone call. We want to

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Speaker 1: hear all about that, the background, what took place in

2018
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Speaker 1: the background and put it on the Million Man March,

2019
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Speaker 1: and what Minister fire Cohn said to you to convince

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Speaker 1: you that you were going to be an integral part

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01:45:22,960 --> 01:45:25,400
Speaker 1: of putting on this historic gathering. But anyway, let's take

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01:45:25,439 --> 01:45:27,320
Speaker 1: the break and we come back and we'll get to it. Family,

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Speaker 1: you want to join this conversation with doctor Milana Karenga.

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Speaker 1: Reach out to us at eight hundred and four or

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Speaker 1: five zero seventy eight seventy six, and we'll take your

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01:45:34,680 --> 01:45:37,000
Speaker 1: phone calls after the show breaker's name and Grand Rising

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Speaker 1: Family twenty minutes after the top there with our guest,

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Speaker 1: Dtr Milana Karrenga. Doctor Krengo is one of the, as

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Speaker 1: I mentioned, one of the architects of the Million Man March.

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Speaker 1: Today's the thirtieth an aversue of that historic gathering in Washington, DC,

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Speaker 1: Doctor Karenga. When you got the call from Minister fire

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Speaker 1: Gun and he explained to you what he wanted to do,

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Speaker 1: How did that go down? And were you did you

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Speaker 1: see that his vision right away?

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Speaker 4: You know what happened?

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Speaker 17: We did, but we had some reservations. And what happened

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Speaker 17: is that, you know, there was a controversial at the

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Speaker 17: beginning of the whole idea of whether or not we

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Speaker 17: should have the conversations, whether or not Minister fact cond

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Speaker 17: should say to the women stay home. That was a

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Speaker 17: big thing, not only.

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Speaker 6: With the women, but with some.

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Speaker 17: Of the nationalist organizations that believe that the women can

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Speaker 17: be a part of it, but men must be at

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Speaker 17: the leadership and the fundamental focus of it.

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Speaker 6: And we thought that women could be part.

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Speaker 17: Of the national Organizing Community executive committee, but black men

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Speaker 17: had to be in front and own focus. That was

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Speaker 17: a big conversation, and we said, why don't we uh

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Speaker 17: call uh people were saying they wanted to be a

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Speaker 17: part of it, the nationalist community that I know right

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Speaker 17: all across the country. So I said to the group

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Speaker 17: that we were talking it was informa, had no name,

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Speaker 17: but it was some of the major people, and we said, uh,

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Speaker 17: we have to do something. So I said, well, let's

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Speaker 17: call Minister Faccond and asked him can he be flexible

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Speaker 17: in this and change the language and the and the

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Speaker 17: interesties and don't don't don't change the focus, but change

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Speaker 17: the language. That the women should stay home. That was

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Speaker 17: a big thing, that the women should stay home. And

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Speaker 17: you know, we believe that we have to do everything together.

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Speaker 6: But just like we have fraternities and saraties, we could

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Speaker 6: have all men's uh project. You know, this is a

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Speaker 6: man's project.

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Speaker 17: This a million man march. We got to be able

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Speaker 17: to do this because and I put this in the

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Speaker 17: mission statement and when to when and I wrote it,

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Speaker 17: you know that one of the things that we have

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Speaker 17: to face is that when we talk about men. Usually

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01:48:09,240 --> 01:48:12,599
Speaker 17: we talk about them as a problematic, Black men as

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Speaker 17: a problematic. So we said, our priority call the black

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Speaker 17: men to stand up and to assume this new and

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Speaker 17: expanded chense of responsibility, is based on the realization that

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Speaker 17: the strength and resourceulns of the family and the liberation

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Speaker 17: of our people require black men at this juncture in

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Speaker 17: history stand up, step forward, and assume a new responsibility.

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Speaker 6: And then we said, also look at this that some.

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Speaker 17: Of the most acute problems facing the black community within

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Speaker 17: are those polls by black males who have not stood up.

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Speaker 17: Also that the carring and responsible father in the home,

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Speaker 17: the responsible and future focus male and female relations, and

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Speaker 17: the security of the community right and the family's capacity

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01:49:11,640 --> 01:49:16,040
Speaker 17: right to avoid poverty and to push our lives forward

2084
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Speaker 17: as a people and as a community, all dependent upon

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01:49:20,920 --> 01:49:24,679
Speaker 17: the black man standing up. And also that in the

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Speaker 17: context of a real and principled brotherhood, those of us

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Speaker 17: who have stood up must challenge others to stand up also.

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Speaker 17: And we said, finding that unless and until black men

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Speaker 17: stand up, black men and women can't stand together and

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Speaker 17: accomplish the awesome tasks before us. And that's that all

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01:49:45,640 --> 01:49:49,640
Speaker 17: go and struggle to be ourselves and free ourselfs and

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Speaker 17: build a good world we all want and deserve to

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Speaker 17: live in and struggle so hard to achieve. So it

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01:49:57,000 --> 01:49:59,280
Speaker 17: was that thinking that when and so we called a

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01:49:59,400 --> 01:50:03,280
Speaker 17: meeting uh uh Minister fact Con to meet with us,

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Speaker 17: and we met at Third World Press with Hakim doctor

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Speaker 17: Hakim Makabuji, who who you know as you know as

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Speaker 17: producer a public publisher of Third World Press, uh, the

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Speaker 17: oldest black continued black press we have. And so I

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Speaker 17: think it's very important for us to know their history.

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01:50:22,760 --> 01:50:24,840
Speaker 17: And one of the things I like that history is

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Speaker 17: because Minnester time was flexible. And he said, okay, how

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Speaker 17: how do y'all want to do it? And so we said, well,

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Speaker 17: let's get out a statement so that we can know

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Speaker 17: that everybody know what we stand for and what we're doing,

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01:50:38,960 --> 01:50:42,040
Speaker 17: and that's the that's the project we're going to work from.

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Speaker 17: And so we agreed that men would continue to be

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Speaker 17: the focus, and then we all get Ryan Daniels put

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Speaker 17: that forward that he was at the meeting, Doctor Ron Daniels,

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Speaker 17: that we have also a day of absence and for women.

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Speaker 17: Women could come to the meeting and they could also participate.

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Speaker 6: But the focus.

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Speaker 17: And the fundamental thrust must be from men because it's

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Speaker 17: a man project, and you know, men, black men at

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Speaker 17: that time, just like now need to stand up in

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Speaker 17: a special way because we'll target it in a such way.

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Speaker 17: That's the negative, but the positive is that that's the

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Speaker 17: way history unfolds. Right if black men are absent, if

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Speaker 17: black men are not doing what they're supposed to do,

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Speaker 17: it's hard to talk about a black feminly and a

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Speaker 17: Black community that's vigorous and healthy and actually is doing

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Speaker 17: what they're supposed to do and bring good in the

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Speaker 17: world and leave a legacy worthy of the name and

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Speaker 17: history African. So that's how that is. That we did

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Speaker 17: the mission statement, and we agreed to certain principles, and

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Speaker 17: one of the most important principles we agree to is

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Speaker 17: three atone men, reconciliation, and responsibility. And this says all.

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Speaker 6: Of us agreed to all three of those. But it was.

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Speaker 17: Clearly Atonement was the Muslim idea, Reconciliation was a Christian idea,

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01:52:15,000 --> 01:52:20,439
Speaker 17: and responsibility and love life and struggle was the nationalist

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01:52:20,479 --> 01:52:24,280
Speaker 17: community uh idea. And so we put that together. But

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Speaker 17: we agreed to all of all three of us Greek,

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Speaker 17: but in terms of how it was an operational unity document.

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Speaker 6: That's another thing. I introduced the concept of operational unity

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Speaker 6: at the meeting and before unity and diversity, unity without uniformity,

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Speaker 6: Unity and first principal, Second unity and purpose. Third unity

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Speaker 6: in practice, Unity and purpose apartment Unity in principal, purpose

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Speaker 6: and practice.

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Speaker 17: We have to start with principal. But to speak truth

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01:52:56,240 --> 01:53:01,160
Speaker 17: two Justice, care for each other, be committed to honor

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Speaker 17: and our elders and our ancests, and cheerish and our

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Speaker 17: and challenging our chisen here for the poor and the

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Speaker 17: vulnerable among us, having right relationship with the environment.

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Speaker 1: And doctor Kranker, I'm curious that when Minister Farca contacted

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Speaker 1: you and said he wanted to do a million man march,

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Speaker 1: did he tell you why how he conceived this this idea.

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Speaker 6: No, No, we we we we we We didn't talk

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Speaker 6: that much about how we were going to do it.

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01:53:34,280 --> 01:53:37,120
Speaker 6: We said we're going to meet and talk, and we

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Speaker 6: were kind of had a good iron understanding. So when we.

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Speaker 17: Talked about it in Chicago, when we met, uh face

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Speaker 17: to face, well, you know, and had the meeting that

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Speaker 17: we just I was just describing with you, he was

2154
01:53:51,320 --> 01:53:55,320
Speaker 17: he talked about the vision that he put forward that

2155
01:53:55,760 --> 01:53:58,799
Speaker 17: it was a critical time for black men to stand

2156
01:53:58,840 --> 01:54:02,080
Speaker 17: out and that that we were in a crisis. And

2157
01:54:02,240 --> 01:54:04,640
Speaker 17: we all agreed that we were in a crisis that

2158
01:54:04,920 --> 01:54:09,920
Speaker 17: only black men standing up can help pass through. And

2159
01:54:10,200 --> 01:54:13,640
Speaker 17: we're in the midst of a major struggle, struggle for

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01:54:13,720 --> 01:54:17,439
Speaker 17: the life and health and wellbeing of our community, and

2161
01:54:17,520 --> 01:54:20,480
Speaker 17: we need to come together. And you know, the philosophy

2162
01:54:20,840 --> 01:54:24,400
Speaker 17: actually is written out and based in the book. And

2163
01:54:24,439 --> 01:54:28,000
Speaker 17: that's why it's so important because you know, Minister fact Coon,

2164
01:54:28,160 --> 01:54:31,280
Speaker 17: you know, he's a religious leader, and he has visions

2165
01:54:31,680 --> 01:54:35,160
Speaker 17: visions of things, you know, and the vision is usually

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01:54:35,440 --> 01:54:40,360
Speaker 17: a religious vision, right, and so are the social issues

2167
01:54:40,960 --> 01:54:44,000
Speaker 17: and the political issues. That's where we come in and

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01:54:44,040 --> 01:54:48,080
Speaker 17: that's where we laid out certain things that need to

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01:54:48,120 --> 01:54:51,800
Speaker 17: be done along the lines of you know, if you

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01:54:52,240 --> 01:54:56,720
Speaker 17: if you read the mission statement, we went into challenges

2171
01:54:56,840 --> 01:55:02,920
Speaker 17: for ourselves, challenging for the dovement, you know, challenging for corporations.

2172
01:55:03,520 --> 01:55:07,600
Speaker 17: That kind of conversation he usually doesn't have. He usually

2173
01:55:07,920 --> 01:55:13,080
Speaker 17: has a conversation for the spiritual uplifting about people. And

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01:55:13,120 --> 01:55:18,080
Speaker 17: there's references to economics and some maybe some politics, but

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01:55:18,640 --> 01:55:23,000
Speaker 17: mainly his is the spiritual well being of the people.

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01:55:24,640 --> 01:55:26,680
Speaker 1: All right, thirty minutes out the top of our family.

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01:55:26,960 --> 01:55:28,600
Speaker 1: If you were at the Mailiam Man Marsh, let us

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01:55:28,640 --> 01:55:30,480
Speaker 1: know if it changed. You reach out to us as well.

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01:55:30,520 --> 01:55:32,680
Speaker 1: You can speak to doctor Milana Krenga at eight hundred

2180
01:55:32,760 --> 01:55:36,120
Speaker 1: four or five zero seventy eight seventy six and doctor Crank.

2181
01:55:36,240 --> 01:55:38,920
Speaker 1: You mentioned that you carved out a space for the women.

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01:55:39,040 --> 01:55:41,640
Speaker 1: I'm sure the sisters were calling you guys and say, hey,

2183
01:55:41,880 --> 01:55:44,440
Speaker 1: we run in on this. How did you break the

2184
01:55:44,520 --> 01:55:47,000
Speaker 1: news to them that we want to let you in

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01:55:47,040 --> 01:55:48,320
Speaker 1: but you're not going to be front and center.

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01:55:49,800 --> 01:55:54,360
Speaker 6: Yes, well, you know what's interesting about this, but it's

2187
01:55:54,480 --> 01:55:57,960
Speaker 6: not it's not a real conversation. Phrase like that if

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01:55:58,000 --> 01:56:02,200
Speaker 6: you say it has a even kind of an approach

2189
01:56:02,240 --> 01:56:05,440
Speaker 6: to it, because it's like giving you a ticket to

2190
01:56:05,480 --> 01:56:07,240
Speaker 6: do something where you ought to be in and out.

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01:56:07,640 --> 01:56:11,280
Speaker 6: Our position is that our woman should always be beside us,

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01:56:11,520 --> 01:56:14,960
Speaker 6: but sometimes we have to take care of certain things

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01:56:15,000 --> 01:56:18,200
Speaker 6: that we will say, can we do this ourselves here?

2194
01:56:18,320 --> 01:56:22,600
Speaker 6: Because unless we stand up, we can't stand together. And

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01:56:22,680 --> 01:56:26,240
Speaker 6: I repeat that unless the black man stands up, then

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01:56:26,240 --> 01:56:29,440
Speaker 6: the black men and women can't stand together and build

2197
01:56:29,560 --> 01:56:32,920
Speaker 6: a family. And community and world we all want and

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01:56:32,960 --> 01:56:36,080
Speaker 6: deserve to live in and build so we can leave

2199
01:56:36,120 --> 01:56:39,720
Speaker 6: it as a legacy worthy of the name and history African.

2200
01:56:39,840 --> 01:56:43,720
Speaker 6: So what we said is that, oh there's flexibility here.

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01:56:44,040 --> 01:56:47,320
Speaker 6: We're going to all work together. The women who want

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01:56:47,360 --> 01:56:52,800
Speaker 6: to participate can participate, right, but the focus and emphasis

2203
01:56:52,880 --> 01:56:59,280
Speaker 6: must remain on the men, and men must be the major,

2204
01:56:59,320 --> 01:57:04,240
Speaker 6: the major. What do we call facilitators of this march?

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01:57:04,320 --> 01:57:07,440
Speaker 6: Otherwise the march? What is the march for? What's march for?

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01:57:08,000 --> 01:57:11,000
Speaker 6: The march is a million man march.

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01:57:12,080 --> 01:57:14,240
Speaker 17: Later on we will have a million family march. But

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01:57:14,280 --> 01:57:16,840
Speaker 17: we have to have a million man march to get

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01:57:16,920 --> 01:57:19,600
Speaker 17: to the million family in march.

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01:57:19,680 --> 01:57:21,680
Speaker 6: And then we had to have a million women in

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01:57:21,800 --> 01:57:24,200
Speaker 6: march to get to the family march. So we had

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01:57:24,200 --> 01:57:26,080
Speaker 6: a million man march, we had a million.

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01:57:25,840 --> 01:57:28,720
Speaker 17: Women in march, and then we had a million family march.

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01:57:29,120 --> 01:57:32,520
Speaker 17: That's the stage of it. And just like building fraternities,

2215
01:57:32,760 --> 01:57:37,360
Speaker 17: building sarrarities, building men's group, building women group, there's nothing

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01:57:37,400 --> 01:57:38,240
Speaker 17: wrong with that.

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01:57:38,520 --> 01:57:39,280
Speaker 6: And that's why.

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01:57:39,560 --> 01:57:42,080
Speaker 17: But what we had to do is change the language

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01:57:42,080 --> 01:57:42,800
Speaker 17: the language.

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01:57:42,880 --> 01:57:43,480
Speaker 6: And that's why.

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01:57:43,960 --> 01:57:47,560
Speaker 17: If I seem to be meticulous about and careful about

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01:57:47,600 --> 01:57:50,920
Speaker 17: this language is because I don't want to say we're

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01:57:50,960 --> 01:57:52,840
Speaker 17: dominating with shutting.

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01:57:52,480 --> 01:57:53,320
Speaker 6: Out and all that.

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01:57:53,640 --> 01:57:57,560
Speaker 17: What we're doing is choosing a special space in which

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01:57:57,680 --> 01:58:02,000
Speaker 17: men can come and talk. They reaffirm each other in

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01:58:02,080 --> 01:58:06,200
Speaker 17: our soulfulness, our sacredness, the resilience and resource for us.

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01:58:06,200 --> 01:58:08,760
Speaker 17: Our people are known for it, so that black men

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01:58:08,840 --> 01:58:12,360
Speaker 17: can stand up and again, so if we stand up,

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01:58:12,520 --> 01:58:16,560
Speaker 17: we can stand together with our women in a good

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01:58:16,600 --> 01:58:17,800
Speaker 17: and meaningful ways.

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01:58:17,960 --> 01:58:19,920
Speaker 6: And also, as you know, had laid.

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01:58:19,800 --> 01:58:22,920
Speaker 17: On a million youth march, nobody said where the old

2234
01:58:22,960 --> 01:58:23,560
Speaker 17: people in that?

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01:58:23,920 --> 01:58:25,960
Speaker 6: So we got to be able to do that without

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01:58:25,960 --> 01:58:28,680
Speaker 6: their breath telling us we're oppress it.

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01:58:28,960 --> 01:58:31,880
Speaker 17: But if the language is not right, it looks like

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01:58:32,480 --> 01:58:36,200
Speaker 17: instead of raising black men up, we're putting black women down,

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01:58:36,600 --> 01:58:39,960
Speaker 17: and the pressor always plays on that and tries to

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01:58:40,080 --> 01:58:43,520
Speaker 17: divide us rather than see this is not only a

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01:58:43,560 --> 01:58:48,160
Speaker 17: contribution to black men standing up. It's a contribution to

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01:58:48,480 --> 01:58:52,080
Speaker 17: the black man standing up, coming back, being with his

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01:58:52,240 --> 01:58:57,480
Speaker 17: women in a rightful way, right without without the braggadocia,

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01:58:57,560 --> 01:59:01,000
Speaker 17: without the violence, without their absence, out all those other

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01:59:01,120 --> 01:59:05,080
Speaker 17: things that can happen if things go wrong and relations

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01:59:05,120 --> 01:59:09,040
Speaker 17: are not rightful, if they're not rooted in mutual respect

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01:59:09,800 --> 01:59:14,280
Speaker 17: and shared work, and and and and shared love and

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01:59:14,320 --> 01:59:18,320
Speaker 17: shared struggle again to build a good world first a

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01:59:18,360 --> 01:59:22,400
Speaker 17: good family, the good community, to good society.

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Speaker 6: And the good world we all want and deserve to

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01:59:24,360 --> 01:59:24,760
Speaker 6: live in.

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01:59:25,080 --> 01:59:28,280
Speaker 17: So that's why I'm very careful about the language. And again,

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01:59:28,680 --> 01:59:32,840
Speaker 17: the women built the project called the Day of Absence,

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01:59:33,080 --> 01:59:35,960
Speaker 17: and the day of Absence? Are they those that didn't

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01:59:35,960 --> 01:59:40,320
Speaker 17: go to the march? They stayed home, and they uh

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01:59:40,520 --> 01:59:43,840
Speaker 17: stayed in the city, in the home city, and they

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01:59:44,240 --> 01:59:49,120
Speaker 17: built projects, teachings, broad casts from businesses and just just

2258
01:59:49,400 --> 01:59:55,800
Speaker 17: discussing and organizing and discussing the meaning of this historic moment.

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01:59:56,080 --> 02:00:02,000
Speaker 17: What black men coming together making a commitment to practice.

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Speaker 6: Those three principles are told.

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02:00:03,840 --> 02:00:09,280
Speaker 17: Me, reconciliation and responsibility, And I like to talk about

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02:00:09,320 --> 02:00:12,960
Speaker 17: those if we can. So the atonement had to do with,

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02:00:13,560 --> 02:00:16,720
Speaker 17: you know, recognizing that we've got a problem and being

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02:00:16,760 --> 02:00:20,560
Speaker 17: able to say it without seeming pathological. So sometimes, you know,

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02:00:20,840 --> 02:00:23,280
Speaker 17: it's not that we don't have problem, but sometimes we

2266
02:00:23,320 --> 02:00:26,080
Speaker 17: talk so bad about the problems we have, and we

2267
02:00:26,200 --> 02:00:31,400
Speaker 17: generalize them so terrible that nobody's an outstanding. So if

2268
02:00:31,440 --> 02:00:35,280
Speaker 17: we talk so bad about the black man that nobody's outstanding.

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02:00:35,600 --> 02:00:38,880
Speaker 17: We can't even have a million man march, and we

2270
02:00:38,960 --> 02:00:41,720
Speaker 17: can't have a million march because if we listen to

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02:00:42,120 --> 02:00:47,080
Speaker 17: the propaganda of our president who's pathological himself and pathogenic,

2272
02:00:47,360 --> 02:00:52,240
Speaker 17: not only sick but also producing sick people, then we

2273
02:00:52,280 --> 02:00:54,640
Speaker 17: don't even have anybody to call the march. We don't

2274
02:00:54,640 --> 02:00:57,640
Speaker 17: have anybody to organize the march. And here I wanted

2275
02:00:57,720 --> 02:01:00,520
Speaker 17: to say, this is so important for us to make

2276
02:01:00,560 --> 02:01:03,560
Speaker 17: this distinction and to give each other credit.

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Speaker 6: For what we've done. And so I want to do that.

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02:01:05,640 --> 02:01:09,320
Speaker 17: First, give minutes of third time credit for the conception,

2279
02:01:09,920 --> 02:01:13,920
Speaker 17: give the nation of it's time credit for forming the

2280
02:01:13,960 --> 02:01:18,840
Speaker 17: fundamental structure, and then give credit to the over three

2281
02:01:18,880 --> 02:01:23,480
Speaker 17: hundred and eighteen local organizing committees that came out of

2282
02:01:23,520 --> 02:01:27,760
Speaker 17: that meeting that we had and continued with the work

2283
02:01:27,840 --> 02:01:32,920
Speaker 17: that the nation had already begun to build this mark work.

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02:01:32,960 --> 02:01:36,720
Speaker 17: Close to two million people came to b C and

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02:01:36,960 --> 02:01:42,280
Speaker 17: did so without incident, and committed themselves first to atonement,

2286
02:01:42,640 --> 02:01:45,160
Speaker 17: to consider and to.

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02:01:45,760 --> 02:01:49,720
Speaker 6: Admit the harm that has been done and that we

2288
02:01:49,840 --> 02:01:53,320
Speaker 6: have not always done what we're supposed to do right.

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02:01:53,600 --> 02:01:56,160
Speaker 6: And some of the language is very beautiful so I

2290
02:01:56,200 --> 02:01:59,320
Speaker 6: just want to share it with you and so and

2291
02:01:59,440 --> 02:02:01,640
Speaker 6: said that Toment is the best.

2292
02:02:01,880 --> 02:02:04,080
Speaker 1: Nown't you want hold that thought right there, Doctor Karenga,

2293
02:02:04,280 --> 02:02:06,800
Speaker 1: I'll let you expand on a tony got this I

2294
02:02:06,800 --> 02:02:09,800
Speaker 1: think is key to understanding of the what's behind the

2295
02:02:09,840 --> 02:02:11,840
Speaker 1: scenes of the million man March and why he was

2296
02:02:11,880 --> 02:02:14,640
Speaker 1: put on and doctor Krenge futures join his family was

2297
02:02:14,680 --> 02:02:17,440
Speaker 1: part of the behind the scenes guys, one of the architects,

2298
02:02:17,440 --> 02:02:19,960
Speaker 1: if you will, along with doctor Willie Wilson, and he

2299
02:02:20,040 --> 02:02:22,360
Speaker 1: mentioned Ron Daniels. Some other folks were there when when

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02:02:22,600 --> 02:02:25,000
Speaker 1: doctor when Minister Farker and called them to, you know,

2301
02:02:25,160 --> 02:02:26,840
Speaker 1: say it was going to have a million who wants

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02:02:26,880 --> 02:02:28,800
Speaker 1: a million brothers to come to Washington, DC? And they

2303
02:02:28,800 --> 02:02:31,200
Speaker 1: pulled it off successfully. So we'll get into that as well.

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02:02:31,280 --> 02:02:33,880
Speaker 1: You got a question about how it came down, reach

2305
02:02:33,960 --> 02:02:35,880
Speaker 1: out to us at eight hundred four or five zero

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02:02:36,080 --> 02:02:38,520
Speaker 1: seventy eight seventy six and will take all your phone

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02:02:38,520 --> 02:02:41,360
Speaker 1: calls and Grand Rising family thanksually rolling with us on

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02:02:41,400 --> 02:02:44,320
Speaker 1: this Thursday morning. I guess there's doctor Milana Karenga, many

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02:02:44,320 --> 02:02:46,400
Speaker 1: of you know from putting a quoset together, but he

2310
02:02:46,600 --> 02:02:49,560
Speaker 1: was an integral part of the Million Man March, and

2311
02:02:49,600 --> 02:02:52,240
Speaker 1: today is the thirtieth anniversary of the Million Man March.

2312
02:02:52,320 --> 02:02:54,560
Speaker 1: Those of you who attended, we like to know if

2313
02:02:54,600 --> 02:02:57,200
Speaker 1: you were impacted by the march as well. Doctor kereng

2314
02:02:57,360 --> 02:03:00,600
Speaker 1: is getting us some behind the scenes efforts it took

2315
02:03:00,600 --> 02:03:02,800
Speaker 1: place to put the march together. I just want to

2316
02:03:02,800 --> 02:03:04,600
Speaker 1: remind you that tomorrow is Friday, so we're going to

2317
02:03:04,760 --> 02:03:07,120
Speaker 1: invite you all to Jonas for our open phone Friday

2318
02:03:07,120 --> 02:03:09,760
Speaker 1: program again promptly at six am Eastern time, right here

2319
02:03:09,760 --> 02:03:12,440
Speaker 1: in Baltimore on ten ten w LB. Also on the

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02:03:12,520 --> 02:03:15,960
Speaker 1: DMV on AM fourteen fifteen w L. We start at

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02:03:15,960 --> 02:03:18,120
Speaker 1: six am Eastern Thomas I mentioned, so be on time.

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02:03:18,160 --> 02:03:19,680
Speaker 1: A lot of folks wait for the last minute. We

2323
02:03:19,680 --> 02:03:21,680
Speaker 1: don't get a chance to hear from them. But let's

2324
02:03:21,720 --> 02:03:24,440
Speaker 1: go back to doctor Korrenger. Doctor Krenger, you mentioned atonement.

2325
02:03:25,640 --> 02:03:28,080
Speaker 1: How did that sector come in and for the folks

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02:03:28,120 --> 02:03:32,080
Speaker 1: who don't understand why atonement and what does it really mean?

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02:03:33,040 --> 02:03:35,760
Speaker 17: Yeah, because that was one of the sticking points about that.

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02:03:36,040 --> 02:03:37,880
Speaker 17: And before we leave, I wanted to make sure we

2329
02:03:37,960 --> 02:03:43,000
Speaker 17: have time to discuss the new Mei Man March Mission

2330
02:03:43,040 --> 02:03:47,520
Speaker 17: statement that I also also as a result of collaboration

2331
02:03:47,720 --> 02:03:54,680
Speaker 17: and conversation with the thirtieth Anniversary me Mayn March Mission

2332
02:03:54,720 --> 02:04:00,440
Speaker 17: Team Collective, the thirtieth Anniversary MEI Man March Collective, and

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02:04:00,720 --> 02:04:01,440
Speaker 17: that's important.

2334
02:04:01,560 --> 02:04:03,680
Speaker 6: But also before we go, I wanted to make sure

2335
02:04:04,200 --> 02:04:11,360
Speaker 6: we say, we had structures. So the Executive Council was

2336
02:04:11,840 --> 02:04:15,840
Speaker 6: the group that helped put the group put the march

2337
02:04:15,880 --> 02:04:18,320
Speaker 6: together in its final form. And then we had a

2338
02:04:18,440 --> 02:04:22,600
Speaker 6: larger group with over that with the National Medium Man

2339
02:04:22,760 --> 02:04:26,600
Speaker 6: March Day of Absent Organizing Committee. So the Medium Man

2340
02:04:26,720 --> 02:04:32,640
Speaker 6: March Organized National Organizing Committee, but the Executive Council members included.

2341
02:04:33,360 --> 02:04:37,200
Speaker 6: And this is in alphabetical orders so we know it.

2342
02:04:37,320 --> 02:04:41,000
Speaker 6: It's not in terms of you know, the status and anything.

2343
02:04:41,120 --> 02:04:44,440
Speaker 6: Certainly Minister Farkind is the first person we can name,

2344
02:04:44,480 --> 02:04:47,440
Speaker 6: but just in fact put it like so I can

2345
02:04:47,480 --> 02:04:48,200
Speaker 6: get all of them.

2346
02:04:48,640 --> 02:04:52,640
Speaker 17: So doctor Benjamin Chavish was an executive direction of the

2347
02:04:52,680 --> 02:04:57,360
Speaker 17: Medium Man March Organized Committee. Uh doctor Ryan Daniels Campaign

2348
02:04:57,480 --> 02:05:03,720
Speaker 17: for a New Tomorrow Men of course myself and then

2349
02:05:03,960 --> 02:05:07,960
Speaker 17: uh Mawiena Caryati who was All African.

2350
02:05:07,600 --> 02:05:10,440
Speaker 6: People's Revolution of Party. She was the only woman owned.

2351
02:05:10,360 --> 02:05:14,720
Speaker 17: Executive committing and you know all African People's Party made

2352
02:05:14,760 --> 02:05:20,200
Speaker 17: that a point. Uh certainly, uh uh that was important

2353
02:05:20,240 --> 02:05:25,360
Speaker 17: for us uh too that again we don't exclude women,

2354
02:05:25,400 --> 02:05:28,560
Speaker 17: but at the same time the men must be the

2355
02:05:28,560 --> 02:05:32,640
Speaker 17: focus and the major factor in this. So mister Bob

2356
02:05:32,800 --> 02:05:37,080
Speaker 17: Law was a million Man March citywide coordinating council for

2357
02:05:37,240 --> 02:05:42,520
Speaker 17: New York, doctor Haki Matabuji, Third World Pressed, mister Lennard Muhammad,

2358
02:05:42,520 --> 02:05:47,160
Speaker 17: the Nation of Islam, doctor Emia O by Daily Republic

2359
02:05:47,200 --> 02:05:51,440
Speaker 17: of New Africa, Reverend doctor Frank Reid, who of course

2360
02:05:51,600 --> 02:05:57,080
Speaker 17: bishop now better uh emeritus, that's the best. The African

2361
02:05:57,120 --> 02:06:01,280
Speaker 17: Methodist Biscal Church, Reverend Willie will of course that we

2362
02:06:01,440 --> 02:06:06,200
Speaker 17: mentioned already Union Temple Baptist Church, and doctor Conrad Ward,

2363
02:06:06,240 --> 02:06:11,440
Speaker 17: the National Black United Front. So that formed that small

2364
02:06:12,280 --> 02:06:15,840
Speaker 17: united group that was at the head of this in

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Speaker 17: terms of the executive council. But then we have this

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Speaker 17: national Mee Man March Organizing Committee where at the last

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Speaker 17: day there were as many, if not more women at

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Speaker 17: that organizing committee than men. But again men were the focus,

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02:06:34,760 --> 02:06:39,480
Speaker 17: the empants and the fundamental facilitators and leaders of this organization,

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Speaker 17: and that was important. And of course at the head

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Speaker 17: of this was a Minister of Lewis Fahirkrid, whose idea

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02:06:47,720 --> 02:06:52,040
Speaker 17: this was, but also who provided the basis structure in

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02:06:52,120 --> 02:06:53,080
Speaker 17: the nation of Islam.

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Speaker 6: So we always have to stress that again and again

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Speaker 6: because this was historic and we could talk about why

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02:06:59,480 --> 02:07:02,480
Speaker 6: it was his to it in a few minutes after

2377
02:07:02,520 --> 02:07:06,120
Speaker 6: we come back with answering your question about this idea

2378
02:07:06,120 --> 02:07:08,520
Speaker 6: of a home man, and this was minutes of fra

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02:07:08,640 --> 02:07:12,240
Speaker 6: Kn's idea. He put this down as fundamental to what

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02:07:12,280 --> 02:07:13,720
Speaker 6: he was doing. And when you.

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Speaker 17: Asked me about his ideas again, I told you his

2382
02:07:19,440 --> 02:07:23,040
Speaker 17: ideas were mainly spiritually grounded, and so were the Christians,

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02:07:23,080 --> 02:07:25,760
Speaker 17: even though they have a practical aspect to it. They

2384
02:07:25,760 --> 02:07:30,640
Speaker 17: would bring forward this spirture idea. So by toment we

2385
02:07:30,760 --> 02:07:35,400
Speaker 17: defined in this statement that a toment in the best

2386
02:07:35,400 --> 02:07:39,520
Speaker 17: spiritual and ethical sense is to recognize wrongs done and

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Speaker 17: make amends, to be self critical and self corrected. It

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02:07:43,520 --> 02:07:46,920
Speaker 17: means turning inward and assessing the right and the wrong,

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02:07:47,520 --> 02:07:53,560
Speaker 17: recognizing shortcoming and committing ourselves to correct them. Coment means

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02:07:53,600 --> 02:07:58,560
Speaker 17: being always concerned about standing worthy before the Creator, before others,

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02:07:58,960 --> 02:08:03,600
Speaker 17: and before the creat being humble enough to admit mistakes

2392
02:08:03,640 --> 02:08:07,680
Speaker 17: and wrong and to bold, be bold enough to correct them.

2393
02:08:08,240 --> 02:08:10,280
Speaker 17: And so then we may just spledge and say to

2394
02:08:10,320 --> 02:08:12,760
Speaker 17: the extent that we have failed to do all that

2395
02:08:12,840 --> 02:08:16,200
Speaker 17: we can in the way we can, to make ourselves

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02:08:16,200 --> 02:08:18,760
Speaker 17: in our community the best of what it means to

2397
02:08:18,760 --> 02:08:22,360
Speaker 17: be African and human. We ask forgiveness from the Creator

2398
02:08:22,840 --> 02:08:23,520
Speaker 17: and each other.

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Speaker 6: And therefore we dare.

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Speaker 17: To atone number one for all the offenses, all the

2401
02:08:30,920 --> 02:08:36,080
Speaker 17: offenses intentional and unintentional, against the Creator, against others, and

2402
02:08:36,160 --> 02:08:41,360
Speaker 17: against the Creation, especially those offenses caused by accepting the

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02:08:41,400 --> 02:08:45,440
Speaker 17: worst and weakest conceptions of ourself. That's like the first

2404
02:08:45,560 --> 02:08:50,000
Speaker 17: problem when we accept weak and wrong and nakeadive and

2405
02:08:50,120 --> 02:08:55,000
Speaker 17: noxious conceptous conceptions of ourselfs. Because how we understand ourself

2406
02:08:55,320 --> 02:08:58,160
Speaker 17: determines how we assert ourselves in the world. And if

2407
02:08:58,200 --> 02:09:00,960
Speaker 17: we have diminished conceptions of ourself.

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02:09:01,000 --> 02:09:02,960
Speaker 6: That's how we will assert ourselves.

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02:09:03,240 --> 02:09:05,880
Speaker 17: The second we said a tone for not always following

2410
02:09:05,920 --> 02:09:11,040
Speaker 17: the best teachings of our spiritual and ethical tradition of Islam, Christianity,

2411
02:09:11,840 --> 02:09:19,320
Speaker 17: Hebrewism or Judaism and Hebrewisms, Black Hebrewism, My your our time,

2412
02:09:19,440 --> 02:09:23,600
Speaker 17: cow eater and all others in sacrifices and ignoring the

2413
02:09:23,680 --> 02:09:28,720
Speaker 17: spiritual ethical in pursuit of material things. Also, we've ton

2414
02:09:28,800 --> 02:09:31,680
Speaker 17: for over focusing on the personal at the expense of

2415
02:09:31,720 --> 02:09:34,840
Speaker 17: the collective needs of our families and our community.

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02:09:35,440 --> 02:09:37,840
Speaker 6: We're told for collaborating in our own.

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02:09:37,720 --> 02:09:42,280
Speaker 17: Oppression by embracing ideas, institutions, and practices which deny our

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02:09:42,360 --> 02:09:46,800
Speaker 17: human dignity, limit our freedom, and dim or disguise the

2419
02:09:46,840 --> 02:09:50,839
Speaker 17: spark of divinity in all of us. We're tone for

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02:09:51,240 --> 02:09:57,200
Speaker 17: failing to contribute in a substantial and meaningful way and sustained,

2421
02:09:57,240 --> 02:10:01,080
Speaker 17: diminish way to the struggles of our people for freedom, injustice,

2422
02:10:01,360 --> 02:10:04,640
Speaker 17: and to building the moral community in which we all

2423
02:10:04,680 --> 02:10:07,640
Speaker 17: want to live. With tone for failing to do as

2424
02:10:07,680 --> 02:10:11,200
Speaker 17: much as we can to protect and prepare the environment

2425
02:10:11,560 --> 02:10:16,360
Speaker 17: through practicing and struggling for environmentally friendly patterns of consumption

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02:10:16,520 --> 02:10:19,960
Speaker 17: and production. With tone for any time we've turned a

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02:10:20,000 --> 02:10:23,160
Speaker 17: blind eye to injustice, an a depth ear to truth,

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02:10:23,600 --> 02:10:27,080
Speaker 17: or an uncaring heart away from the suffering and pain

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02:10:27,440 --> 02:10:30,880
Speaker 17: around us. With tone for not resisting as much as

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02:10:30,920 --> 02:10:34,800
Speaker 17: we can set this ideas and practices in society and

2431
02:10:34,840 --> 02:10:38,240
Speaker 17: then our own relations, and failing to uphold the principle

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02:10:38,280 --> 02:10:42,320
Speaker 17: of equal rights, partnership and responsibility of men and women

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02:10:42,640 --> 02:10:44,480
Speaker 17: in life, love and struggle.

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02:10:45,480 --> 02:10:46,400
Speaker 6: And we're Town for.

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02:10:46,680 --> 02:10:51,160
Speaker 17: Lacking the moral consideration and human sensitivity toward others that

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02:10:51,280 --> 02:10:55,000
Speaker 17: we want for ourselves. And finally, we are Tone for

2437
02:10:55,080 --> 02:11:01,000
Speaker 17: not always practicing the seven principles in Gusosaba unity, self determination,

2438
02:11:01,520 --> 02:11:08,320
Speaker 17: collective work and responsibility, cooperative economic purpose, creativity, and faith.

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02:11:08,680 --> 02:11:12,280
Speaker 6: And therefore we commit and recommit ourselves to this day

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Speaker 6: and afterwards to constantly strive to be better person, to

2441
02:11:16,880 --> 02:11:21,680
Speaker 6: live fuller and more meaningful life, to build strong, loving

2442
02:11:21,840 --> 02:11:25,880
Speaker 6: any Galateeeran families, and to struggle to make our community,

2443
02:11:25,920 --> 02:11:29,480
Speaker 6: our society, and the world a better pace in which

2444
02:11:29,600 --> 02:11:32,880
Speaker 6: to live. That is how we explain atonement.

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Speaker 1: All right, eight hundred and four or five zero seventy

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02:11:38,440 --> 02:11:40,360
Speaker 1: eight seventy six, ten minutes away from the top of

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Speaker 1: Mark's calling from Baltimore, has a question for doctor Karenga.

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02:11:43,200 --> 02:11:45,760
Speaker 1: Is online too, Grand Rise and Mark your question for

2449
02:11:45,840 --> 02:11:46,520
Speaker 1: doctor Karenga.

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02:11:48,520 --> 02:11:51,360
Speaker 16: Oh okay, good, we are our work.

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02:11:52,200 --> 02:11:54,320
Speaker 1: All right, Mark's not ready. Let's move on to line three.

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02:11:54,400 --> 02:12:00,240
Speaker 1: Thomas is in Washington, DC. Grand Rise in Thomas and.

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Speaker 15: Rising, I will say, long live the spirit of the

2454
02:12:04,440 --> 02:12:09,840
Speaker 15: Million Man March. I was there I was there, and

2455
02:12:10,080 --> 02:12:14,200
Speaker 15: I remember it as if it was yesterday. I think,

2456
02:12:14,440 --> 02:12:18,080
Speaker 15: by now, do you think this is a question, brother Karinga,

2457
02:12:18,800 --> 02:12:23,000
Speaker 15: By now do you think that, like they say, we

2458
02:12:23,080 --> 02:12:27,680
Speaker 15: can talk and to bubblegum at the same time. Next

2459
02:12:27,680 --> 02:12:33,760
Speaker 15: week October twenty fifth, nineteen ninety seven was the Million

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02:12:33,960 --> 02:12:38,480
Speaker 15: Women March, which will be next weekend, and it would

2461
02:12:38,520 --> 02:12:43,120
Speaker 15: be more focused on Howard's homecoming and the Woman's March

2462
02:12:43,160 --> 02:12:46,960
Speaker 15: will not even be mentioned. Don't you think by now

2463
02:12:47,720 --> 02:12:53,440
Speaker 15: we should combine the two efforts? By now? Thirty years later,

2464
02:12:54,040 --> 02:12:59,520
Speaker 15: the Million Women March was a grassroots protest and when

2465
02:12:59,560 --> 02:13:04,920
Speaker 15: they walked down the street, they were chatting. By the thousands,

2466
02:13:05,320 --> 02:13:09,560
Speaker 15: we are at war. And now when we see three

2467
02:13:09,640 --> 02:13:13,760
Speaker 15: hundred thousand black women has been fired from their jobs,

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Speaker 15: I think it is time. Do you think it's time

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Speaker 15: that we correlate the two together and highlight that because

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02:13:23,840 --> 02:13:26,440
Speaker 15: the mother is the first teacher the child. So don't

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02:13:26,480 --> 02:13:30,120
Speaker 15: you think now, by now we should be correlating those

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02:13:30,160 --> 02:13:34,920
Speaker 15: two movements together and make a strong power fit in

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02:13:35,000 --> 02:13:39,480
Speaker 15: a new movement of a march as correlating them two together.

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Speaker 1: All right, and let's give them a chance to respond.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Thomas thanks your call, Doctor Karrenga.

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Speaker 6: Yes, Tom, you know you're right.

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02:13:47,040 --> 02:13:50,160
Speaker 17: I mean, how could I make it argue against us

2478
02:13:50,200 --> 02:13:52,800
Speaker 17: being together black men and black women.

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Speaker 6: And that's essential. No matter what other relationships we.

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Speaker 17: Had, Black men and women are central to the founding

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02:14:01,880 --> 02:14:04,840
Speaker 17: of the world and the continuation of the world. We

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02:14:04,880 --> 02:14:07,600
Speaker 17: can't move away from that. No matter what other discussions

2483
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Speaker 17: we have, we cannot move away from that.

2484
02:14:10,080 --> 02:14:12,800
Speaker 6: So certainly is that So the only thing I would do.

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02:14:12,880 --> 02:14:17,320
Speaker 17: I wouldn't start by criticizing or making it look as

2486
02:14:17,360 --> 02:14:20,760
Speaker 17: if black people are not doing something they ought to

2487
02:14:20,800 --> 02:14:23,640
Speaker 17: do it in a pathriological way. But I would put

2488
02:14:23,640 --> 02:14:27,440
Speaker 17: it in something let's do this and then we praise

2489
02:14:27,560 --> 02:14:32,280
Speaker 17: both of them, rather than refer to negative things people

2490
02:14:32,280 --> 02:14:36,400
Speaker 17: are not doing. Let's say what otitively is being done right?

2491
02:14:36,880 --> 02:14:40,680
Speaker 17: And if somebody thought of this before this day, the sixteenth,

2492
02:14:40,760 --> 02:14:42,880
Speaker 17: when the march is on, right, So we're not going

2493
02:14:42,960 --> 02:14:47,160
Speaker 17: to do much about that except Cark and maybe go in.

2494
02:14:47,520 --> 02:14:50,120
Speaker 17: He doesn't like even if he wanted to do it.

2495
02:14:50,520 --> 02:14:53,520
Speaker 17: You know, he had to open up and say people

2496
02:14:53,560 --> 02:14:54,120
Speaker 17: come in.

2497
02:14:54,040 --> 02:14:55,160
Speaker 6: And talk about the march.

2498
02:14:55,240 --> 02:14:58,480
Speaker 17: To let the million women in march. And by the way,

2499
02:14:58,680 --> 02:15:01,760
Speaker 17: it was two million march was as large as ours,

2500
02:15:01,760 --> 02:15:04,640
Speaker 17: if not larger, and I wanted to give them credit

2501
02:15:04,720 --> 02:15:09,600
Speaker 17: for that, Sister Filey and other one of the sisters

2502
02:15:09,600 --> 02:15:13,200
Speaker 17: that helped build the march. But I wanted to say

2503
02:15:13,280 --> 02:15:17,440
Speaker 17: that they should be praised and also should have conversation

2504
02:15:18,000 --> 02:15:20,600
Speaker 17: in their own space as well as here, so we

2505
02:15:20,680 --> 02:15:24,080
Speaker 17: have time to build for them and to talk about

2506
02:15:24,120 --> 02:15:27,839
Speaker 17: this and if they want to and we get together

2507
02:15:28,240 --> 02:15:31,200
Speaker 17: and build it, yes, but they have to have the

2508
02:15:31,280 --> 02:15:34,120
Speaker 17: initiative as well as us. We're supposed to reach out,

2509
02:15:34,400 --> 02:15:37,280
Speaker 17: but it's their decision. If we make the decision that

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02:15:37,480 --> 02:15:41,839
Speaker 17: about me man March, then they must make the decision

2511
02:15:41,880 --> 02:15:42,560
Speaker 17: about to me and.

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02:15:42,520 --> 02:15:46,720
Speaker 6: Woman Mark and how it works. But you know you're right.

2513
02:15:47,200 --> 02:15:49,840
Speaker 17: Unity is always good, but it has to be a

2514
02:15:49,880 --> 02:15:54,560
Speaker 17: principal unity, a purpose for unity, and a practice unity

2515
02:15:55,640 --> 02:15:58,840
Speaker 17: as well as a discuss doing it. So that's what

2516
02:15:58,880 --> 02:16:01,280
Speaker 17: I would I would say, yes, yes, we need to

2517
02:16:01,320 --> 02:16:04,240
Speaker 17: do that, but let's always put our conversation in a

2518
02:16:04,400 --> 02:16:08,000
Speaker 17: positive way to say what we should do rather than

2519
02:16:08,040 --> 02:16:10,320
Speaker 17: what we haven't done, What should we do?

2520
02:16:10,520 --> 02:16:13,560
Speaker 6: What is to be done? And then what have we done?

2521
02:16:13,800 --> 02:16:16,480
Speaker 6: So that we can build on the best of our

2522
02:16:16,520 --> 02:16:18,520
Speaker 6: ideas and practices so.

2523
02:16:18,440 --> 02:16:20,240
Speaker 17: That we can build a good world we all want

2524
02:16:20,280 --> 02:16:23,360
Speaker 17: and deserve to live in. And of course the family

2525
02:16:23,440 --> 02:16:24,520
Speaker 17: is a foundation of that.

2526
02:16:26,680 --> 02:16:28,680
Speaker 1: All right, and thank you for your call, Thomas. We'll

2527
02:16:28,680 --> 02:16:30,080
Speaker 1: come up on a break, doctor karng Go when we

2528
02:16:30,160 --> 02:16:33,240
Speaker 1: come back, though, a question for you, a tweeted question,

2529
02:16:33,320 --> 02:16:36,120
Speaker 1: do you think anybody else in the black community could

2530
02:16:36,160 --> 02:16:38,520
Speaker 1: have pulled us off? I guess it's implying that only

2531
02:16:38,560 --> 02:16:41,040
Speaker 1: Minister Farkhan could have done that could have made this

2532
02:16:41,160 --> 02:16:45,000
Speaker 1: the success the Million Man March family? What are your thoughts?

2533
02:16:45,560 --> 02:16:47,560
Speaker 1: Did you attend a million Man March? Let us know

2534
02:16:47,600 --> 02:16:49,879
Speaker 1: if it did he change you, let us know about

2535
02:16:49,879 --> 02:16:51,760
Speaker 1: that too. And if you didn't tell us why, you

2536
02:16:51,800 --> 02:16:53,800
Speaker 1: didn't know why you were opposed to it, you know,

2537
02:16:53,879 --> 02:16:55,600
Speaker 1: you don't have to you don't have to hide. Let

2538
02:16:55,680 --> 02:16:58,040
Speaker 1: us know because not everybody was down with the march. Now,

2539
02:16:58,160 --> 02:17:00,600
Speaker 1: let's let's remember that. But uh, we got to step

2540
02:17:00,640 --> 02:17:02,960
Speaker 1: aside so some of our stations can identify themselves down

2541
02:17:03,000 --> 02:17:05,320
Speaker 1: the line. We'll come back with doctor Karenga's answer. Hopefully

2542
02:17:05,320 --> 02:17:07,360
Speaker 1: Mark in Baltimore is ready for us as well. You

2543
02:17:07,440 --> 02:17:09,720
Speaker 1: too can join our conversation. Just reach out to us

2544
02:17:09,760 --> 02:17:12,959
Speaker 1: at eight hundred four or five zero seventy eight seventy

2545
02:17:12,959 --> 02:17:15,720
Speaker 1: six on ticket phone calls next and grand Rising family,

2546
02:17:15,760 --> 02:17:17,680
Speaker 1: thanks are staying with us on this Thursday morning. Our

2547
02:17:17,720 --> 02:17:20,160
Speaker 1: guess is doctor Malana Karenga, doctor Kring of course the

2548
02:17:20,320 --> 02:17:23,720
Speaker 1: creative quandjet, but also he was one of the behind

2549
02:17:23,760 --> 02:17:26,640
Speaker 1: the scenes persons for a million Man March. And today

2550
02:17:26,760 --> 02:17:29,240
Speaker 1: is the thirdieth anniversary of the Million Man March and

2551
02:17:29,360 --> 02:17:32,240
Speaker 1: all sorts of events taking place to commemorate the thirtieth

2552
02:17:32,240 --> 02:17:34,320
Speaker 1: anniversary of the march. He helped put it together, wrote

2553
02:17:34,360 --> 02:17:36,760
Speaker 1: the mission statement if you will for the million Man March.

2554
02:17:36,800 --> 02:17:38,440
Speaker 1: She liked to speak to him eight hundred four or

2555
02:17:38,480 --> 02:17:41,640
Speaker 1: five zero seventy eight seventy six. And doctor Krank before

2556
02:17:41,640 --> 02:17:43,600
Speaker 1: we left, had a tweeter wanted to know if you

2557
02:17:43,680 --> 02:17:46,240
Speaker 1: think that only minister Farkh could have pulled us off?

2558
02:17:46,280 --> 02:17:48,360
Speaker 1: Could any other person to pulled it off other than

2559
02:17:48,400 --> 02:17:49,160
Speaker 1: minister Farakhn.

2560
02:17:51,440 --> 02:17:52,560
Speaker 6: I appreciate what you said.

2561
02:17:52,560 --> 02:17:55,560
Speaker 17: If I'm saying, Gwen, it's a beautiful question, and it's

2562
02:17:55,640 --> 02:17:58,199
Speaker 17: to pay right for hobbies a minute for fair cut.

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02:17:58,879 --> 02:18:02,320
Speaker 6: I mean we can never as Musids say, we're forever grateful,

2564
02:18:02,480 --> 02:18:04,800
Speaker 6: you know, to him for the work he's done for

2565
02:18:04,879 --> 02:18:09,320
Speaker 6: the ideas. But I also want us to remember it

2566
02:18:09,600 --> 02:18:15,280
Speaker 6: was his initiative, right, but it required the people to

2567
02:18:15,480 --> 02:18:18,800
Speaker 6: make it work. And I said this, and I said

2568
02:18:18,800 --> 02:18:23,760
Speaker 6: this again. I created Quansa, but without the Black people

2569
02:18:23,920 --> 02:18:27,360
Speaker 6: celebrating it and bracing it at their own, it would

2570
02:18:27,400 --> 02:18:34,359
Speaker 6: not be this worldwide a holiday and value system practice

2571
02:18:34,400 --> 02:18:37,440
Speaker 6: and uniting us in ways nothing else does.

2572
02:18:37,920 --> 02:18:41,120
Speaker 17: And every continent in the world throughout the world, African

2573
02:18:41,520 --> 02:18:43,640
Speaker 17: community celebrated by means of people.

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02:18:43,720 --> 02:18:43,920
Speaker 6: Right.

2575
02:18:44,240 --> 02:18:49,959
Speaker 17: So yes, Men's of Firkin deserves they're great praise for

2576
02:18:50,120 --> 02:18:54,199
Speaker 17: conceiving the idea, but equally, and see this is important

2577
02:18:54,240 --> 02:18:59,280
Speaker 17: for me answering the invitation of history. I want Black

2578
02:18:59,320 --> 02:19:03,320
Speaker 17: people to give credit to our people, to each person

2579
02:19:03,760 --> 02:19:06,760
Speaker 17: who has a great idea increats great things, but I

2580
02:19:06,800 --> 02:19:09,000
Speaker 17: want them to put it in the context of the

2581
02:19:09,040 --> 02:19:09,640
Speaker 17: history of the.

2582
02:19:09,600 --> 02:19:14,080
Speaker 6: People, so the people are never far from making everything work.

2583
02:19:14,400 --> 02:19:18,160
Speaker 6: We've got to give our people more credit without denying

2584
02:19:18,200 --> 02:19:21,720
Speaker 6: the credit to the person that did what they did. Right.

2585
02:19:22,000 --> 02:19:25,480
Speaker 17: Sometimes people give too much credit to the anonymous people

2586
02:19:25,480 --> 02:19:28,280
Speaker 17: and they don't can't explain anything what the people did.

2587
02:19:28,800 --> 02:19:31,480
Speaker 17: That's because they don't spend a lot of time saying

2588
02:19:31,480 --> 02:19:34,440
Speaker 17: what the people did. So what I think is very

2589
02:19:34,480 --> 02:19:36,200
Speaker 17: important for us to say is.

2590
02:19:36,160 --> 02:19:40,200
Speaker 6: That, yes, minister fair Kind was the man of the

2591
02:19:40,320 --> 02:19:45,080
Speaker 6: hour who accepted the invitation of history, the invitation of

2592
02:19:45,200 --> 02:19:49,240
Speaker 6: history at a critical time when we said, you know, like,

2593
02:19:49,480 --> 02:19:52,879
Speaker 6: we are conscious of the critical juncture of history in

2594
02:19:52,920 --> 02:19:55,959
Speaker 6: which we live and the challenge it poses for us.

2595
02:19:56,080 --> 02:20:00,279
Speaker 6: And we're concerned about the increasing racism and the continue

2596
02:20:00,760 --> 02:20:06,800
Speaker 6: commitment the white supremacy in this country to deteriorating social condition,

2597
02:20:07,200 --> 02:20:10,640
Speaker 6: degradation of the environment, the impact and the impact of

2598
02:20:10,680 --> 02:20:12,440
Speaker 6: this on our community.

2599
02:20:12,120 --> 02:20:15,120
Speaker 17: The large society and the world. And we're committed to

2600
02:20:15,160 --> 02:20:18,680
Speaker 17: the ongoing struggle for a free and empowered community, a

2601
02:20:18,879 --> 02:20:22,960
Speaker 17: just society, and a better world. A Minnester fair Kinds

2602
02:20:23,080 --> 02:20:26,600
Speaker 17: stepped out on the stage of history and called us

2603
02:20:26,800 --> 02:20:29,720
Speaker 17: to act on this issue. And then the nation give

2604
02:20:29,760 --> 02:20:32,440
Speaker 17: it also credit when you're talking. So you've got a

2605
02:20:32,520 --> 02:20:36,320
Speaker 17: larger We got a larger history, right, and we've got

2606
02:20:36,360 --> 02:20:37,760
Speaker 17: to do it without.

2607
02:20:37,440 --> 02:20:41,600
Speaker 6: Diminishing quest started from right. And then the second thing,

2608
02:20:41,879 --> 02:20:45,960
Speaker 6: the thirty three hundred and eighteen plugs local Organizing Committee.

2609
02:20:46,120 --> 02:20:50,520
Speaker 6: Don't forget them. This was not magic. This, like FEDO said,

2610
02:20:51,040 --> 02:20:53,959
Speaker 6: we are the ones who make the magic. We're the

2611
02:20:54,000 --> 02:20:56,920
Speaker 6: ones who make the miracles. It's the people that make

2612
02:20:57,000 --> 02:20:59,880
Speaker 6: the magic and the miracles, right, So Minnester fair can

2613
02:21:00,080 --> 02:21:04,160
Speaker 6: all said. The nation gives a fundamental structure for it, right,

2614
02:21:04,680 --> 02:21:07,160
Speaker 6: and the practice and the core group for it. And

2615
02:21:07,200 --> 02:21:09,279
Speaker 6: then the three one hundred and eighteen.

2616
02:21:09,080 --> 02:21:12,560
Speaker 17: Local organizing committit. And then of course the million men

2617
02:21:12,640 --> 02:21:13,800
Speaker 17: and women.

2618
02:21:13,640 --> 02:21:17,440
Speaker 6: Supporters who worked, you know, who put the thing together,

2619
02:21:17,720 --> 02:21:20,840
Speaker 6: came to whet and who got the buses right through

2620
02:21:20,840 --> 02:21:23,640
Speaker 6: the and got the tickets and exend and playing it

2621
02:21:23,640 --> 02:21:26,440
Speaker 6: all coming different way. And finally, of course I'm back

2622
02:21:26,440 --> 02:21:29,039
Speaker 6: to our people. I begin with our people and I

2623
02:21:29,240 --> 02:21:32,720
Speaker 6: end with our people who were never ending right, our.

2624
02:21:32,640 --> 02:21:37,080
Speaker 17: People who welcomed this historic initiative bi Minister fact time

2625
02:21:37,480 --> 02:21:42,320
Speaker 17: and the nation supported it as persons, supported it, as families,

2626
02:21:42,600 --> 02:21:46,480
Speaker 17: supported it, as communities and as a people conscious of

2627
02:21:46,560 --> 02:21:52,360
Speaker 17: itself and obviously struggling to be itself, to free itself.

2628
02:21:52,520 --> 02:21:56,160
Speaker 17: And that's what made it historically significant, and we wrote

2629
02:21:56,200 --> 02:21:58,240
Speaker 17: about the historical significance of it.

2630
02:21:58,640 --> 02:22:00,199
Speaker 6: It was agnificant first.

2631
02:22:00,520 --> 02:22:04,400
Speaker 17: Because it was a timely and necessary statement and challenge

2632
02:22:04,640 --> 02:22:07,760
Speaker 17: both to ourselves and the country in the time of

2633
02:22:07,800 --> 02:22:11,680
Speaker 17: increasing racism, a tax on hard won gains, just like

2634
02:22:11,800 --> 02:22:17,120
Speaker 17: now and continually deteriorating condition for the poor and the vulnerable,

2635
02:22:17,400 --> 02:22:21,800
Speaker 17: and therefore in urgent time for transformative and progressive leadership.

2636
02:22:22,400 --> 02:22:24,119
Speaker 6: It is a tire historical.

2637
02:22:23,800 --> 02:22:27,600
Speaker 17: Significant because it was a celebration apart me a declaration

2638
02:22:28,080 --> 02:22:29,240
Speaker 17: of the resolve.

2639
02:22:28,879 --> 02:22:32,039
Speaker 6: Of black men in particular and the Black.

2640
02:22:31,840 --> 02:22:35,960
Speaker 17: Community in general to mobilize and to struggle, to maintain

2641
02:22:36,120 --> 02:22:40,400
Speaker 17: hard won gains, resist evil and wrong wherever we find it,

2642
02:22:40,680 --> 02:22:41,680
Speaker 17: and to continue to.

2643
02:22:41,640 --> 02:22:43,680
Speaker 6: Push our lives in history forward.

2644
02:22:43,840 --> 02:22:47,240
Speaker 17: And need is historically significant because it is a reaffirmation

2645
02:22:47,600 --> 02:22:50,800
Speaker 17: of our self understanding, as I said, as a people,

2646
02:22:51,120 --> 02:22:54,080
Speaker 17: that we are only liberators black people, that no matter

2647
02:22:54,120 --> 02:22:58,880
Speaker 17: how numerous or sincere, our allies are the greatest burdens

2648
02:22:58,920 --> 02:23:02,480
Speaker 17: to be born and the most severe sacrifices to be

2649
02:23:02,640 --> 02:23:06,800
Speaker 17: made for liberation or essentially our own, our own black

2650
02:23:06,840 --> 02:23:10,520
Speaker 17: people who are also a significant because this was an

2651
02:23:10,560 --> 02:23:15,320
Speaker 17: effective way to reinforce and expand discussion on critical issues

2652
02:23:15,480 --> 02:23:19,440
Speaker 17: confronting our people, the country, and the world, and put forth,

2653
02:23:19,840 --> 02:23:23,039
Speaker 17: our position owns these That's why we've got to talk

2654
02:23:23,080 --> 02:23:26,199
Speaker 17: about And you're doing this, car and I'm so glad

2655
02:23:26,480 --> 02:23:28,119
Speaker 17: you do it. Every year you do it.

2656
02:23:28,640 --> 02:23:32,200
Speaker 6: Talk about the mission statement and the issues. We got

2657
02:23:32,200 --> 02:23:35,480
Speaker 6: to talk about the issues. Awfter we praise the people,

2658
02:23:35,760 --> 02:23:38,400
Speaker 6: we got to talk about what they need and what

2659
02:23:38,440 --> 02:23:39,359
Speaker 6: we must kill.

2660
02:23:39,520 --> 02:23:43,920
Speaker 17: You to struggle for. This is historical significant also because

2661
02:23:43,959 --> 02:23:47,800
Speaker 17: it was both an example and encouragement of operational unity.

2662
02:23:48,120 --> 02:23:51,520
Speaker 17: One of the most important things for me call is

2663
02:23:51,560 --> 02:23:56,360
Speaker 17: the operational unity. That it required a unity in diversity,

2664
02:23:56,520 --> 02:24:01,039
Speaker 17: a unity without uniformity, and a unity owned and purpose

2665
02:24:02,840 --> 02:24:08,240
Speaker 17: principle and practice or principal purpose and practice and for

2666
02:24:08,320 --> 02:24:12,600
Speaker 17: our collective good. And it was significant. It remains ongoing

2667
02:24:12,640 --> 02:24:16,640
Speaker 17: and significant because it was a galvanized and mobilizing process

2668
02:24:16,680 --> 02:24:20,800
Speaker 17: to raise consciousness, to cultivate commitment, and lay the groundwork

2669
02:24:20,879 --> 02:24:25,720
Speaker 17: to increased positive social political economics by activity and finding them.

2670
02:24:26,200 --> 02:24:31,080
Speaker 17: It was a necessary contribution to our ancient and living

2671
02:24:31,200 --> 02:24:35,440
Speaker 17: moral tradition, the speaking truth to power and to the

2672
02:24:35,520 --> 02:24:41,000
Speaker 17: people and seeking power for the vulnerable, justice for the injured, right.

2673
02:24:41,000 --> 02:24:44,840
Speaker 6: For the wrong, and liberation for their breasts. That's the

2674
02:24:44,879 --> 02:24:47,119
Speaker 6: beauty of it, and that's how we have to talk

2675
02:24:47,160 --> 02:24:51,840
Speaker 6: about it. Otherwise we reduce our discussion to personalities and

2676
02:24:51,920 --> 02:24:57,560
Speaker 6: we forget that then the far kind came as a

2677
02:24:57,720 --> 02:25:02,120
Speaker 6: person who was sensortive to the suffering and struggle of

2678
02:25:02,120 --> 02:25:06,720
Speaker 6: our people, and he accepted the invitation of history which

2679
02:25:06,800 --> 02:25:10,040
Speaker 6: called him for it, our people called him for it.

2680
02:25:10,200 --> 02:25:12,600
Speaker 6: For that, I mean, that's how I see it. That's

2681
02:25:12,600 --> 02:25:13,520
Speaker 6: how I always be.

2682
02:25:14,000 --> 02:25:17,640
Speaker 17: It, in historical terms and in people terms, and it

2683
02:25:17,840 --> 02:25:24,200
Speaker 17: still leaves him with the rightful phrase, uh and recognition

2684
02:25:24,320 --> 02:25:25,160
Speaker 17: he deserves.

2685
02:25:26,080 --> 02:25:28,720
Speaker 1: Got you And after the top of the doctor Milana Krangers,

2686
02:25:28,760 --> 02:25:30,600
Speaker 1: I guess he's one of the architects of the Million

2687
02:25:30,640 --> 02:25:34,440
Speaker 1: Man Martian Days. The thirtieth anniversary of that march marks

2688
02:25:34,520 --> 02:25:37,400
Speaker 1: joining us. He's in Baltimore's online too, Grand Rising Market.

2689
02:25:37,440 --> 02:25:38,400
Speaker 1: I'm with doctor Karenga.

2690
02:25:39,440 --> 02:25:43,880
Speaker 18: Hey, Grand Rising guys are happy, uh with his thirtieth

2691
02:25:43,879 --> 02:25:47,480
Speaker 18: Man of Burns three of the Meridian Man margin. Yes,

2692
02:25:47,640 --> 02:25:52,439
Speaker 18: and thank you doctor Krenga for for the Kuans of the principles.

2693
02:25:52,640 --> 02:25:55,600
Speaker 18: But my question is because because me and Carl always

2694
02:25:55,640 --> 02:25:58,520
Speaker 18: say this, we got to do better. And uh, people,

2695
02:25:58,680 --> 02:26:01,880
Speaker 18: what's her name? My modirl I was gone now, but

2696
02:26:02,240 --> 02:26:08,400
Speaker 18: she came. She said the counter racist behavior, Doctor Welson.

2697
02:26:08,920 --> 02:26:11,800
Speaker 18: They put the onus on us, just like you said.

2698
02:26:11,879 --> 02:26:12,840
Speaker 6: And that's you know.

2699
02:26:12,920 --> 02:26:15,600
Speaker 16: That's why I'm so disturbed and what we're doing to

2700
02:26:15,680 --> 02:26:17,520
Speaker 16: each other, what we do to we don't have any

2701
02:26:18,600 --> 02:26:19,240
Speaker 16: respect for.

2702
02:26:19,240 --> 02:26:20,800
Speaker 18: Our seniors and stuff like that.

2703
02:26:21,080 --> 02:26:23,520
Speaker 16: Even a lot of the young politicians think they know

2704
02:26:23,640 --> 02:26:26,320
Speaker 16: more than us. So what do you think about it?

2705
02:26:26,400 --> 02:26:29,520
Speaker 16: And I think this could be a day of self reflection.

2706
02:26:32,000 --> 02:26:34,240
Speaker 6: Jabe, appreciate what you said.

2707
02:26:34,280 --> 02:26:34,560
Speaker 15: Brother.

2708
02:26:36,280 --> 02:26:39,039
Speaker 6: I just think thank you for your question. Always, thanks

2709
02:26:39,040 --> 02:26:42,000
Speaker 6: for the question. I want to go back to what

2710
02:26:42,080 --> 02:26:42,960
Speaker 6: I said.

2711
02:26:43,800 --> 02:26:48,800
Speaker 17: Let's phrase that differently. In other words, let us say

2712
02:26:49,320 --> 02:26:54,040
Speaker 17: that what we want to do is increase greater respect

2713
02:26:54,280 --> 02:26:58,240
Speaker 17: from my youth for our elders. That way, we give

2714
02:26:58,320 --> 02:27:02,119
Speaker 17: credit to those youths that due respect, and we don't

2715
02:27:02,160 --> 02:27:05,680
Speaker 17: look like a totally pathological people are always fighting the

2716
02:27:05,760 --> 02:27:10,000
Speaker 17: same problem, never seem to get anywhere, Okay, So I

2717
02:27:10,080 --> 02:27:14,800
Speaker 17: want us to say that, yes, we always. And one

2718
02:27:14,840 --> 02:27:16,760
Speaker 17: of the points we make in the million man mark

2719
02:27:17,080 --> 02:27:21,119
Speaker 17: there some mission statement is that we must be of people,

2720
02:27:21,520 --> 02:27:24,720
Speaker 17: and I repeated it in the current mission statement.

2721
02:27:25,120 --> 02:27:28,080
Speaker 6: We must always be able to say that we.

2722
02:27:28,240 --> 02:27:32,320
Speaker 17: Are our elders and our ancestors, cherish and challenge our children.

2723
02:27:32,720 --> 02:27:35,400
Speaker 17: We must have that at the poor and we must

2724
02:27:35,520 --> 02:27:39,000
Speaker 17: challenge our youth, even as we cherish them, and sometimes

2725
02:27:39,080 --> 02:27:41,959
Speaker 17: we cherish them to a fault because we think just

2726
02:27:42,160 --> 02:27:45,840
Speaker 17: loving them is enough. No, we've got to cherish and

2727
02:27:45,959 --> 02:27:48,720
Speaker 17: challenge there, challenge them to be the best of what

2728
02:27:48,800 --> 02:27:50,360
Speaker 17: it means to be African and human.

2729
02:27:50,800 --> 02:27:53,520
Speaker 6: We always say in our organization US and then.

2730
02:27:53,440 --> 02:27:58,600
Speaker 17: Our philosophy kawaia Africa means excellent. African means excellence.

2731
02:27:58,720 --> 02:28:01,600
Speaker 6: Right. If it doesn't mean that, what doesn't mean.

2732
02:28:01,760 --> 02:28:06,120
Speaker 17: And we must strive and see ourselves as an excellent people,

2733
02:28:06,400 --> 02:28:09,680
Speaker 17: as a sacred people, as a soulful people. And we

2734
02:28:09,760 --> 02:28:13,520
Speaker 17: can't do that if we keep talking about the pathology,

2735
02:28:13,800 --> 02:28:16,760
Speaker 17: and don't we and put it in pathologically we can

2736
02:28:16,800 --> 02:28:19,160
Speaker 17: have problems. And I'm not saying don't talk about a problem.

2737
02:28:19,200 --> 02:28:21,320
Speaker 17: You know, we got to read problem right because if

2738
02:28:21,320 --> 02:28:22,560
Speaker 17: we don't, well he's a problem.

2739
02:28:22,560 --> 02:28:23,640
Speaker 6: We can't solve the problem.

2740
02:28:23,720 --> 02:28:23,920
Speaker 4: Right.

2741
02:28:24,120 --> 02:28:27,000
Speaker 6: But at the same time, it's how we pose it right.

2742
02:28:27,560 --> 02:28:30,160
Speaker 17: That's what I want us to do, is to see

2743
02:28:30,520 --> 02:28:36,520
Speaker 17: ourselves as constantly unfolding, constly struggling to be the best

2744
02:28:36,560 --> 02:28:38,920
Speaker 17: of what it means to be African and human in

2745
02:28:39,000 --> 02:28:40,480
Speaker 17: the fullest sense of the world.

2746
02:28:40,640 --> 02:28:43,279
Speaker 6: So when you and Carl say we got to do better.

2747
02:28:43,400 --> 02:28:46,560
Speaker 6: You're right, you know you're right, because.

2748
02:28:46,200 --> 02:28:50,520
Speaker 17: We believe in progressive perfection. So we do have plaateaud

2749
02:28:50,720 --> 02:28:53,880
Speaker 17: we reach them, give us credit for doing something, and

2750
02:28:53,920 --> 02:28:55,199
Speaker 17: then say let's do more.

2751
02:28:55,560 --> 02:28:58,560
Speaker 6: Let's do more. But that's what we are and that's

2752
02:28:58,560 --> 02:29:01,600
Speaker 6: what I like. I always tell people in case we're rushing,

2753
02:29:01,840 --> 02:29:04,240
Speaker 6: don't have a chance to say our wonders always the

2754
02:29:04,320 --> 02:29:08,199
Speaker 6: praise of people. And remember the teaching of our ancestors

2755
02:29:08,200 --> 02:29:13,119
Speaker 6: and our eldest who taught us for example, Nana Howard Therman.

2756
02:29:13,240 --> 02:29:16,000
Speaker 6: Nina again means honored one. And these are people we

2757
02:29:16,160 --> 02:29:18,120
Speaker 6: use for who have passed. But you know, I know

2758
02:29:18,200 --> 02:29:22,120
Speaker 6: it's also used in Ghana and other and certainly and

2759
02:29:22,160 --> 02:29:25,800
Speaker 6: the Diasthea for hundred people living. But we in our

2760
02:29:25,879 --> 02:29:28,520
Speaker 6: Organs who mainly use it for the people who passed.

2761
02:29:28,640 --> 02:29:31,360
Speaker 6: And I want to just in terms of reaffirming the

2762
02:29:31,440 --> 02:29:35,680
Speaker 6: beauty and goodness and strength uh doability, residings and resource

2763
02:29:35,720 --> 02:29:38,920
Speaker 6: for the soulfulness and sacredness of our people. These three

2764
02:29:39,000 --> 02:29:44,040
Speaker 6: quotes by these UH ancestors uh So Nana Howard Thermann

2765
02:29:44,080 --> 02:29:47,200
Speaker 6: tells us we are people who rides the storm and

2766
02:29:47,280 --> 02:29:50,840
Speaker 6: remain intact. Nana gren Brook tells us, we are people

2767
02:29:51,040 --> 02:29:54,120
Speaker 6: who conduct our very blooming and the noise and whip

2768
02:29:54,120 --> 02:29:57,560
Speaker 6: for the world win. And Nana Nanny Baras tells us

2769
02:29:57,800 --> 02:30:02,280
Speaker 6: we are people who specialize and the holy impossible. So

2770
02:30:02,800 --> 02:30:04,800
Speaker 6: we do things that we.

2771
02:30:04,800 --> 02:30:08,480
Speaker 17: Must recognize and take credit for. And that's again, why

2772
02:30:08,680 --> 02:30:11,800
Speaker 17: tell us talk about the people. We can talk about

2773
02:30:11,800 --> 02:30:13,000
Speaker 17: the persons.

2774
02:30:12,560 --> 02:30:13,680
Speaker 6: Right, give them credit.

2775
02:30:13,760 --> 02:30:17,039
Speaker 17: Don't ever do that. Don't substitute compraising the people and

2776
02:30:17,080 --> 02:30:21,040
Speaker 17: leaving out the persons that make the people proud that

2777
02:30:21,400 --> 02:30:26,440
Speaker 17: that actually facilitates the people struggle. Right, these people give

2778
02:30:26,560 --> 02:30:30,760
Speaker 17: so much, our teachers, our leaders, our creators, you know,

2779
02:30:31,240 --> 02:30:36,600
Speaker 17: our parents, all these people, our coaches, our our mentors,

2780
02:30:36,640 --> 02:30:39,160
Speaker 17: all these people that make us possible.

2781
02:30:39,320 --> 02:30:42,520
Speaker 6: Always give them credit, but always see them in the

2782
02:30:42,560 --> 02:30:46,000
Speaker 6: context of our community, both national.

2783
02:30:45,640 --> 02:30:51,040
Speaker 17: And world and African as well as national. Right, So

2784
02:30:51,160 --> 02:30:52,880
Speaker 17: that's what that's what I would say.

2785
02:30:52,920 --> 02:30:55,200
Speaker 6: So, yes, I agree with you.

2786
02:30:56,480 --> 02:30:59,200
Speaker 1: Thanks Mark thirteen half the top l Let's go to Buffalo.

2787
02:30:59,280 --> 02:31:01,880
Speaker 1: Bob's there, he's online. Three grand Rising Bobby are on

2788
02:31:01,959 --> 02:31:02,800
Speaker 1: with doctor Krenga.

2789
02:31:04,000 --> 02:31:07,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, blessed love family, Doctor Kringer. Thank you for all

2790
02:31:07,280 --> 02:31:09,160
Speaker 5: that you have done and all that you will do.

2791
02:31:09,920 --> 02:31:13,959
Speaker 5: My question is, as we move forward towards this year's

2792
02:31:14,120 --> 02:31:18,240
Speaker 5: Kwanza celebration and move forward towards the new year, what

2793
02:31:18,240 --> 02:31:21,840
Speaker 5: can we do to prepare ourselves for the Quansa season,

2794
02:31:22,080 --> 02:31:24,560
Speaker 5: for the new year and move us forward to being

2795
02:31:24,600 --> 02:31:27,879
Speaker 5: any closer to being a free, proud and productive people.

2796
02:31:28,240 --> 02:31:30,680
Speaker 5: How do we prepare for this year's Quansa and this

2797
02:31:30,920 --> 02:31:32,440
Speaker 5: season that we're in.

2798
02:31:33,840 --> 02:31:36,920
Speaker 17: A scientist science, thank you again so much for your

2799
02:31:37,000 --> 02:31:40,720
Speaker 17: question and signing for the positiveness yet, and thank.

2800
02:31:40,480 --> 02:31:43,400
Speaker 6: You for the work you do. I'm sure your work.

2801
02:31:43,240 --> 02:31:46,680
Speaker 17: Your consciousness reflects that. So yes, the first thing we

2802
02:31:46,760 --> 02:31:52,000
Speaker 17: can do is to stand done foundation and again, since

2803
02:31:52,120 --> 02:31:58,160
Speaker 17: Kwanza is a holiday that calls us together and ways

2804
02:31:58,400 --> 02:32:03,640
Speaker 17: no other holiday us with principles like none other, that

2805
02:32:03,879 --> 02:32:10,600
Speaker 17: unites us regardless of our difference, unites us in our difference,

2806
02:32:11,240 --> 02:32:16,440
Speaker 17: in our diversity, and tells us to stand together on

2807
02:32:16,640 --> 02:32:21,800
Speaker 17: hallowed ground, sacred ground, the sacred ground of our culture

2808
02:32:22,480 --> 02:32:23,920
Speaker 17: and Kwanza is.

2809
02:32:24,120 --> 02:32:27,320
Speaker 6: What we do is prepare for it by remembering why

2810
02:32:27,360 --> 02:32:29,560
Speaker 6: it's created. You know, we.

2811
02:32:29,640 --> 02:32:36,120
Speaker 17: Created it as first an instrument of freedom. It's a

2812
02:32:36,120 --> 02:32:38,880
Speaker 17: freedom holiday, and we have to think about that. It

2813
02:32:38,959 --> 02:32:42,520
Speaker 17: created as an instrument of freedom of self determination.

2814
02:32:43,080 --> 02:32:43,280
Speaker 6: Right.

2815
02:32:43,480 --> 02:32:47,160
Speaker 17: We didn't ask people, We didn't ask the state or

2816
02:32:47,200 --> 02:32:52,080
Speaker 17: the city, or the county or the country to make

2817
02:32:52,120 --> 02:32:55,720
Speaker 17: our holiday a national holiday. We made it a national

2818
02:32:55,800 --> 02:32:57,560
Speaker 17: and international holiday.

2819
02:32:57,840 --> 02:33:00,840
Speaker 6: So think about that. We got the free ourselves to

2820
02:33:00,920 --> 02:33:05,680
Speaker 6: be ourselfs. Quansa is organized around that fundamental principle being ourselves,

2821
02:33:05,760 --> 02:33:09,000
Speaker 6: so we can free ourselves and being ourselves and freeing

2822
02:33:09,040 --> 02:33:12,000
Speaker 6: ourselves in the way we live our lives, do our

2823
02:33:12,040 --> 02:33:15,080
Speaker 6: work and weighs our struggle. In other words, we've got

2824
02:33:15,120 --> 02:33:18,720
Speaker 6: to put the principles in practice to prepare for Quansa

2825
02:33:19,080 --> 02:33:22,520
Speaker 6: and to prepare for the life we must live, the

2826
02:33:22,560 --> 02:33:25,440
Speaker 6: work we must do, and the struggle we must weigh.

2827
02:33:25,879 --> 02:33:29,199
Speaker 6: Quansa was not only created as an instrument of freedom

2828
02:33:29,840 --> 02:33:32,520
Speaker 6: because I created in the context of the Black Freedom movement.

2829
02:33:32,680 --> 02:33:35,320
Speaker 6: And I left the UCLA working on my doctor and

2830
02:33:35,400 --> 02:33:38,800
Speaker 6: ask myself, what can I do to advance the struggle

2831
02:33:38,840 --> 02:33:39,520
Speaker 6: of our people?

2832
02:33:40,120 --> 02:33:41,359
Speaker 17: And we say, let's build.

2833
02:33:41,120 --> 02:33:46,280
Speaker 6: An institution that harnesses the injured, the energy of the people,

2834
02:33:46,600 --> 02:33:50,720
Speaker 6: that directs them forward. This dual struggle. We had to

2835
02:33:50,800 --> 02:33:53,680
Speaker 6: be ourselves and to free ourselves and to build a

2836
02:33:53,680 --> 02:33:56,120
Speaker 6: good world. We all want and deserve to live in

2837
02:33:56,360 --> 02:33:59,560
Speaker 6: and leave as a legacy worthy of the name and

2838
02:33:59,720 --> 02:34:06,199
Speaker 6: history African seconds. It's created, EGI not only an instrument

2839
02:34:06,560 --> 02:34:13,200
Speaker 6: of freedom, but an active freedom. I'm sorry, I'd say

2840
02:34:13,240 --> 02:34:15,160
Speaker 6: the instrument. It's an active freedom, the.

2841
02:34:15,240 --> 02:34:17,480
Speaker 1: Active You a hold up thought right there, doctor karank

2842
02:34:17,480 --> 02:34:19,200
Speaker 1: because we got to step aside for a moment. I'll

2843
02:34:19,280 --> 02:34:21,880
Speaker 1: let you finish your thought. And this is great because, uh,

2844
02:34:21,959 --> 02:34:23,920
Speaker 1: you know, people the question get all the time, how

2845
02:34:23,959 --> 02:34:26,080
Speaker 1: did you come up with quants of why you created quants?

2846
02:34:26,120 --> 02:34:27,520
Speaker 1: I said, this is give you a chance to They

2847
02:34:27,560 --> 02:34:29,920
Speaker 1: can hear it from you, especially because you know asking

2848
02:34:29,959 --> 02:34:32,200
Speaker 1: me the questions and I can only relay, but they'll

2849
02:34:32,200 --> 02:34:34,240
Speaker 1: get the first hand from you. Family. You two, you

2850
02:34:34,240 --> 02:34:36,520
Speaker 1: want to join our conversation with doctor Milana Karenka, the

2851
02:34:36,560 --> 02:34:39,240
Speaker 1: man who created quantsa also is much more than that.

2852
02:34:39,320 --> 02:34:41,800
Speaker 1: He was one of the key components who helped put

2853
02:34:41,840 --> 02:34:44,160
Speaker 1: together the Million Man March. He wrote the mission statement

2854
02:34:44,200 --> 02:34:46,080
Speaker 1: for the march as well. Reach out to us if

2855
02:34:46,080 --> 02:34:47,640
Speaker 1: you got a question for him at eight hundred and

2856
02:34:47,640 --> 02:34:50,560
Speaker 1: four or five zero seventy eight seventy sixth and will

2857
02:34:50,560 --> 02:34:52,680
Speaker 1: take all their phone calls next staying with us on

2858
02:34:52,720 --> 02:34:55,360
Speaker 1: this Thursday morning, the anniversary of the Million Man March.

2859
02:34:55,400 --> 02:34:57,240
Speaker 1: One of the architects at the March is here with

2860
02:34:57,360 --> 02:35:00,800
Speaker 1: us right now. Doctor Milana Karenka also created the Pan

2861
02:35:00,800 --> 02:35:04,200
Speaker 1: African holiday Kwanza. And the question I think was Bob

2862
02:35:04,200 --> 02:35:07,520
Speaker 1: and Buffalo posed about Quanta. How should we go preparing

2863
02:35:07,560 --> 02:35:10,400
Speaker 1: for Quanza coming up later this year? And I'll let

2864
02:35:10,480 --> 02:35:13,200
Speaker 1: doctor Kurranger finish respond, and also if you'll tell us

2865
02:35:13,480 --> 02:35:16,720
Speaker 1: if he managed to weave some of the seven principles

2866
02:35:16,720 --> 02:35:19,320
Speaker 1: of Kwanza into the mission statement for the Million Man BArch.

2867
02:35:19,360 --> 02:35:20,480
Speaker 1: So doctor Kranger, your.

2868
02:35:20,360 --> 02:35:24,760
Speaker 17: Thoughts, yes, So thanks very much again for the question.

2869
02:35:24,879 --> 02:35:27,720
Speaker 17: And let me just say real quick, because.

2870
02:35:27,480 --> 02:35:29,000
Speaker 6: I know we got a lot to cover and I

2871
02:35:29,000 --> 02:35:31,600
Speaker 6: haven't done. You know, I did as told me.

2872
02:35:31,760 --> 02:35:34,879
Speaker 17: I didn't do reconciliation and responsibility and I.

2873
02:35:34,920 --> 02:35:37,120
Speaker 6: Like to do those quickly. I know I have to

2874
02:35:37,160 --> 02:35:38,560
Speaker 6: be shot on by answer, so.

2875
02:35:38,800 --> 02:35:39,840
Speaker 4: Let me just do that.

2876
02:35:39,959 --> 02:35:41,000
Speaker 6: I was likeing real quick.

2877
02:35:41,240 --> 02:35:43,600
Speaker 17: So I was talking about the first thing I'd said,

2878
02:35:43,800 --> 02:35:46,440
Speaker 17: Kwanza was an act of freedom, so we have to

2879
02:35:46,560 --> 02:35:50,000
Speaker 17: practice the principles and end by saying the principles are

2880
02:35:50,200 --> 02:35:53,800
Speaker 17: liberating principles. But first, Quanza was created as an act

2881
02:35:53,879 --> 02:35:57,960
Speaker 17: of freedom. And so I created Quanja for four basic reasons.

2882
02:35:58,000 --> 02:35:59,720
Speaker 17: One and I'm just say them and then we can

2883
02:36:00,000 --> 02:36:03,879
Speaker 17: discuss later. One was to contribute, as I said earlier,

2884
02:36:04,120 --> 02:36:06,800
Speaker 17: to the Black freedom movement. And so Quansu was an

2885
02:36:06,920 --> 02:36:09,879
Speaker 17: act of freedom, and it was self determined. We didn't

2886
02:36:09,879 --> 02:36:13,440
Speaker 17: ask anybody. We established it. Second, it was an instrument

2887
02:36:13,480 --> 02:36:17,040
Speaker 17: of freedom. That is, it helped to raise consciousness.

2888
02:36:16,400 --> 02:36:19,560
Speaker 6: Take us back to black right and to root us

2889
02:36:19,640 --> 02:36:22,480
Speaker 6: in the oldest culture in the world and to learn

2890
02:36:22,560 --> 02:36:24,879
Speaker 6: the best of it and to tell the best of

2891
02:36:24,920 --> 02:36:27,720
Speaker 6: its sacred narrative. Right, it's focus on it.

2892
02:36:27,720 --> 02:36:32,400
Speaker 17: It's a celebration of freedom. Time to celebrate ourselves, sing ourselves.

2893
02:36:31,959 --> 02:36:34,600
Speaker 6: Speak our special culture truth right.

2894
02:36:34,800 --> 02:36:38,240
Speaker 17: And to talk about the beauty and the meaning of

2895
02:36:38,280 --> 02:36:42,080
Speaker 17: being black, the moral obligation to bring good in the world,

2896
02:36:42,120 --> 02:36:47,040
Speaker 17: to do good, to continue the tradition of our ancestors.

2897
02:36:46,280 --> 02:36:48,879
Speaker 6: To be ourselves into free ourselves. And there was a

2898
02:36:48,920 --> 02:36:49,920
Speaker 6: practice of freedom.

2899
02:36:50,240 --> 02:36:54,039
Speaker 17: Right Kansas created as a practice of freedom because when

2900
02:36:54,080 --> 02:36:58,520
Speaker 17: we practice the values, we free ourselves. When we practice

2901
02:36:58,560 --> 02:37:02,960
Speaker 17: Emoja unity, we free ourselves from disunity. When we practice

2902
02:37:03,160 --> 02:37:06,560
Speaker 17: self and we lieve ourselves open, not just as a negative.

2903
02:37:06,640 --> 02:37:08,000
Speaker 6: We don't do these things at the all.

2904
02:37:08,400 --> 02:37:11,960
Speaker 17: It leaves us open to do a myriad of things,

2905
02:37:12,040 --> 02:37:16,320
Speaker 17: unlimited things we can do. So when we practice umoja unity,

2906
02:37:16,560 --> 02:37:19,680
Speaker 17: it's a good in itself, but it frees us to

2907
02:37:19,800 --> 02:37:21,279
Speaker 17: do good things and frees.

2908
02:37:21,000 --> 02:37:22,520
Speaker 6: Us from disunity.

2909
02:37:22,680 --> 02:37:26,960
Speaker 17: When we practice self determination, it frees us from slavishness

2910
02:37:27,160 --> 02:37:29,959
Speaker 17: right and freeze us so we can act as free

2911
02:37:30,440 --> 02:37:32,320
Speaker 17: men and women, boys and girls.

2912
02:37:32,400 --> 02:37:32,600
Speaker 6: Right.

2913
02:37:33,200 --> 02:37:38,200
Speaker 17: When we practice you, when we practice ujima collective work

2914
02:37:38,200 --> 02:37:43,600
Speaker 17: and responsibility, it frees us from being vulgarly individualistic and

2915
02:37:43,720 --> 02:37:46,560
Speaker 17: praying on each other. It trees us.

2916
02:37:46,240 --> 02:37:49,320
Speaker 6: To do good for each other. And when we do ujaman,

2917
02:37:49,720 --> 02:37:52,840
Speaker 6: it frees us to share working world, to build a

2918
02:37:52,879 --> 02:37:55,000
Speaker 6: good world we all want and.

2919
02:37:54,920 --> 02:37:58,240
Speaker 17: Deserve to live in. And when we practice neal purpose

2920
02:37:58,720 --> 02:38:03,560
Speaker 17: right the collective oftion, do you know of building our

2921
02:38:03,760 --> 02:38:08,360
Speaker 17: people so that they can return through and recapture.

2922
02:38:08,120 --> 02:38:12,000
Speaker 6: Their historical greatness? And we know greatness is not making

2923
02:38:12,080 --> 02:38:14,760
Speaker 6: big things a pretty thing. For the who said that

2924
02:38:14,840 --> 02:38:17,640
Speaker 6: teaches us the wiser known for the wisdom, but the

2925
02:38:17,720 --> 02:38:20,840
Speaker 6: great or known for the good deeds, flees us to

2926
02:38:20,920 --> 02:38:23,920
Speaker 6: do good in the world on a large scale. And

2927
02:38:23,959 --> 02:38:29,840
Speaker 6: I find that, of course, uh uh. The practice of Koomba,

2928
02:38:29,959 --> 02:38:32,440
Speaker 6: just think of that frees us from destructive to nhs

2929
02:38:32,560 --> 02:38:36,240
Speaker 6: and opens the vision for us to create goodness and

2930
02:38:36,320 --> 02:38:39,640
Speaker 6: beauty in the world and possibilities in the.

2931
02:38:39,600 --> 02:38:41,119
Speaker 17: World and find the mining.

2932
02:38:41,240 --> 02:38:45,960
Speaker 6: Faith frees us from this relief, disbelief in ourselves right,

2933
02:38:46,440 --> 02:38:50,879
Speaker 6: dis relief in our people, in our parents and our teachers,

2934
02:38:50,879 --> 02:38:54,000
Speaker 6: our leaders, dis belief in the righteousness and victory of

2935
02:38:54,040 --> 02:38:56,039
Speaker 6: our cult. And it frees us to.

2936
02:38:56,040 --> 02:39:00,200
Speaker 17: Believe with all our hearts and our people, our peers, us,

2937
02:39:00,560 --> 02:39:03,880
Speaker 17: our teachers, our leaders. And then the righteousness and victory

2938
02:39:04,280 --> 02:39:06,320
Speaker 17: of our struggle, that's the beauty of it.

2939
02:39:06,560 --> 02:39:09,039
Speaker 6: And then the second reason I created cons were not only.

2940
02:39:09,120 --> 02:39:11,600
Speaker 17: To contribute to the freedom of our people, but to

2941
02:39:11,720 --> 02:39:16,320
Speaker 17: return us to our culture, which is the stentile conversation

2942
02:39:16,480 --> 02:39:19,760
Speaker 17: we have. Second, to bring us together in the way

2943
02:39:20,520 --> 02:39:24,560
Speaker 17: that no other holiday or princes had, you know, give

2944
02:39:24,640 --> 02:39:26,880
Speaker 17: us the time, as African people all over the world

2945
02:39:27,200 --> 02:39:30,560
Speaker 17: to come together. We affirm the bonds between us and

2946
02:39:30,760 --> 02:39:34,560
Speaker 17: meditate on the awsome meaning of being African in the world.

2947
02:39:34,680 --> 02:39:37,320
Speaker 17: What does it mean to be African in the world,

2948
02:39:37,640 --> 02:39:40,800
Speaker 17: to be the fathers and mothers of humanity and human civilization,

2949
02:39:41,400 --> 02:39:43,960
Speaker 17: right to be the sound and daughters of the holocaust

2950
02:39:44,000 --> 02:39:46,760
Speaker 17: of enslavement, to be the authors and heirs or the

2951
02:39:46,840 --> 02:39:50,879
Speaker 17: reaffirmation of the sixes, and to be the people who

2952
02:39:51,000 --> 02:39:54,040
Speaker 17: ride the storm and remain intact, who conduct their blew

2953
02:39:54,120 --> 02:39:56,000
Speaker 17: meat in the noise and whip, where the world win,

2954
02:39:56,440 --> 02:39:59,120
Speaker 17: and who special lied and the holy impossible.

2955
02:39:59,560 --> 02:40:01,320
Speaker 6: This is what quansam means.

2956
02:40:01,640 --> 02:40:04,320
Speaker 17: Prepare for it in that sense and final of course,

2957
02:40:04,720 --> 02:40:10,960
Speaker 17: I created quansam do introduce community and values. And at

2958
02:40:11,000 --> 02:40:13,920
Speaker 17: the core of this are the community and values we

2959
02:40:14,040 --> 02:40:17,760
Speaker 17: call in Ghuzo Saba the seventh Principles, which are dedicated

2960
02:40:18,280 --> 02:40:22,480
Speaker 17: with Kwanzi, is a celebration of family, community and culture.

2961
02:40:22,800 --> 02:40:27,320
Speaker 17: And these principles are created to build, to stay and

2962
02:40:27,560 --> 02:40:31,480
Speaker 17: constantly push forward family, community and culture.

2963
02:40:33,959 --> 02:40:36,440
Speaker 1: All right, and my question, did you get a chance

2964
02:40:36,520 --> 02:40:39,119
Speaker 1: to weave in this? Are the some of the elements,

2965
02:40:39,160 --> 02:40:41,840
Speaker 1: some of the principles of concert into the mission statement

2966
02:40:41,879 --> 02:40:44,280
Speaker 1: for the million man March all through it.

2967
02:40:45,040 --> 02:40:48,160
Speaker 17: In Gizo, that's in the question of entement. It's in

2968
02:40:48,280 --> 02:40:51,080
Speaker 17: the final statement of what we should do. And one

2969
02:40:51,120 --> 02:40:53,959
Speaker 17: of the fundamental things we have in terms of going

2970
02:40:54,040 --> 02:40:57,359
Speaker 17: away that we have to it's under section called continue

2971
02:40:57,680 --> 02:40:58,760
Speaker 17: practice and principle.

2972
02:40:59,200 --> 02:41:01,080
Speaker 6: We said that we must.

2973
02:41:01,200 --> 02:41:04,560
Speaker 17: In fact, finally we say we must embrace and practice

2974
02:41:04,600 --> 02:41:09,040
Speaker 17: a common set of principle that reaffirm and strengthen family, community,

2975
02:41:09,080 --> 02:41:11,920
Speaker 17: and culture and those other thin in Ghuzosabad the seven

2976
02:41:12,000 --> 02:41:17,280
Speaker 17: principles e Moja unity, could jugula self determination, Ujima, collective

2977
02:41:17,320 --> 02:41:24,000
Speaker 17: work and responsibility, ujaman cooperative economic nia, purpose, kumber creativity

2978
02:41:24,520 --> 02:41:27,880
Speaker 17: and in minding faith. That's just before the closing or

2979
02:41:27,920 --> 02:41:31,240
Speaker 17: the conclusion. We reaffirm it and it's worked through there

2980
02:41:31,600 --> 02:41:34,119
Speaker 17: in terms of the kind of politics we want to practice,

2981
02:41:34,360 --> 02:41:38,720
Speaker 17: of politics of unity, not disunity, an economic of shared

2982
02:41:38,840 --> 02:41:42,119
Speaker 17: work and well right, it just goes right on right

2983
02:41:42,360 --> 02:41:45,240
Speaker 17: in terms of projects we should have because it calls

2984
02:41:45,360 --> 02:41:49,080
Speaker 17: for a togetherness. And at the end, Moja is the

2985
02:41:49,320 --> 02:41:52,560
Speaker 17: first and most funded. I shouldn't say most. This is

2986
02:41:52,600 --> 02:41:56,760
Speaker 17: a first principle and a foundational principle because with our unity,

2987
02:41:57,160 --> 02:41:59,920
Speaker 17: we can't build families, we can't have friendship, we can't

2988
02:42:00,040 --> 02:42:04,640
Speaker 17: build community, we can't struggle and win. Second, we put

2989
02:42:04,720 --> 02:42:08,320
Speaker 17: faith at the end because we do get weary and

2990
02:42:08,440 --> 02:42:11,400
Speaker 17: if we don't believe in ourselves, believe in that creator,

2991
02:42:11,640 --> 02:42:14,960
Speaker 17: believe in our mothers, our fathers, our sister brother, grandmothers

2992
02:42:14,959 --> 02:42:18,680
Speaker 17: and grandfathers, our elders, our youth. Believe in all that

2993
02:42:18,920 --> 02:42:23,400
Speaker 17: makes us beautiful and strong, right, and believe that to

2994
02:42:23,600 --> 02:42:26,640
Speaker 17: hard work, long struggle, and a whole lot of love

2995
02:42:26,800 --> 02:42:31,320
Speaker 17: and understanding, we can again step back on the stage

2996
02:42:31,360 --> 02:42:34,520
Speaker 17: of even history as a free, proud and productive people.

2997
02:42:34,800 --> 02:42:38,119
Speaker 6: We must believe that, and we must believe it in practice,

2998
02:42:39,520 --> 02:42:39,840
Speaker 6: all right.

2999
02:42:40,080 --> 02:42:42,600
Speaker 1: Twenty eight afters out there before you mentioned a tone

3000
02:42:42,720 --> 02:42:45,160
Speaker 1: before we go to the other two elements that put

3001
02:42:45,200 --> 02:42:47,959
Speaker 1: forth in a miliam Man March. Second, Ray, I hope

3002
02:42:48,000 --> 02:42:50,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonnask the name correctly in Vegas. Has a question

3003
02:42:50,560 --> 02:42:52,880
Speaker 1: for you on lying too, grand Rising. Second, Ray, I

3004
02:42:52,879 --> 02:42:55,119
Speaker 1: hope I'm pronounce your name correctly. I'm with doctor Karrenga.

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Speaker 19: Yes, yes, the second and right, thank you, Carl Grant Rising,

3006
02:43:03,600 --> 02:43:04,439
Speaker 19: Doctor Curenzo.

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02:43:05,560 --> 02:43:05,680
Speaker 6: Right.

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02:43:05,800 --> 02:43:10,000
Speaker 19: Yes, I went to I went to the Millionaire in March,

3009
02:43:11,520 --> 02:43:15,600
Speaker 19: and it was the most moving event in my life.

3010
02:43:15,760 --> 02:43:19,880
Speaker 19: So I never experienced anything like that.

3011
02:43:21,840 --> 02:43:24,560
Speaker 4: And I feel as if.

3012
02:43:26,360 --> 02:43:31,280
Speaker 19: Uh Fara con and all the other leaders at that

3013
02:43:31,440 --> 02:43:36,120
Speaker 19: time bringing us together, it was something for us to

3014
02:43:36,200 --> 02:43:40,280
Speaker 19: take the next step, uh and not their responsibility to

3015
02:43:40,480 --> 02:43:44,640
Speaker 19: keep us on that path, you know, the awakening and

3016
02:43:44,879 --> 02:43:49,160
Speaker 19: and knowledge that we were supposed to seek, you know,

3017
02:43:49,760 --> 02:43:53,760
Speaker 19: So from that point, I mean, I have that picture

3018
02:43:53,840 --> 02:43:58,040
Speaker 19: on my wall in my house today of the million

3019
02:43:58,120 --> 02:44:01,400
Speaker 19: man march and where uh the sisters that were there,

3020
02:44:01,560 --> 02:44:05,240
Speaker 19: they had signs and saying you know, we love you, brother,

3021
02:44:05,640 --> 02:44:06,440
Speaker 19: we support you.

3022
02:44:06,879 --> 02:44:10,160
Speaker 4: And it was the most moving.

3023
02:44:11,840 --> 02:44:16,279
Speaker 19: Moment and time in my life to help me continue

3024
02:44:16,440 --> 02:44:19,280
Speaker 19: on my journey to some of the things I have

3025
02:44:19,520 --> 02:44:27,200
Speaker 19: done from that event, even though excuse me, even though

3026
02:44:27,320 --> 02:44:30,480
Speaker 19: we had some people say it was a failure, but

3027
02:44:30,600 --> 02:44:33,840
Speaker 19: we had to realize that we are war and that

3028
02:44:34,640 --> 02:44:39,320
Speaker 19: they're gonna say negative things to keep us from uniting,

3029
02:44:40,400 --> 02:44:46,240
Speaker 19: and so regardless of what anyone got out of it,

3030
02:44:46,920 --> 02:44:50,320
Speaker 19: it was for us to continue to go towards the light,

3031
02:44:50,600 --> 02:44:53,440
Speaker 19: to understand the knowledge and our history and where we

3032
02:44:53,640 --> 02:44:57,720
Speaker 19: came from. And so from there my journey has been

3033
02:44:57,840 --> 02:45:01,560
Speaker 19: you know, I've been to Africa several times down and

3034
02:45:01,680 --> 02:45:06,280
Speaker 19: still seeking the knowledge and still learning you know from

3035
02:45:06,320 --> 02:45:08,920
Speaker 19: a lot of other scholars who you know, is a

3036
02:45:09,040 --> 02:45:13,240
Speaker 19: continual education. And so I just want to express that

3037
02:45:13,520 --> 02:45:18,160
Speaker 19: it was the most important event and I would never

3038
02:45:18,240 --> 02:45:20,840
Speaker 19: forget it, and I don't think anyone who went to

3039
02:45:21,000 --> 02:45:24,760
Speaker 19: it or did it should ever forget it.

3040
02:45:26,040 --> 02:45:29,080
Speaker 1: So I just wanted to say that, you know, all right,

3041
02:45:29,640 --> 02:45:31,240
Speaker 1: give him a chance to respond. I think it's a

3042
02:45:31,400 --> 02:45:35,160
Speaker 1: second rate for Colns from Vegas, doctor Krenger. He got

3043
02:45:35,240 --> 02:45:36,400
Speaker 1: something out of the march.

3044
02:45:37,560 --> 02:45:41,199
Speaker 17: Yes, he got something, and so important, and so many

3045
02:45:41,360 --> 02:45:43,960
Speaker 17: media's got something out of the march. And I wanted

3046
02:45:44,000 --> 02:45:48,880
Speaker 17: to just say, let's again, you know, I'm positive, let's

3047
02:45:48,959 --> 02:45:51,920
Speaker 17: not even mention the negative things people say.

3048
02:45:52,520 --> 02:45:53,360
Speaker 6: Let's say what we.

3049
02:45:53,480 --> 02:45:55,160
Speaker 17: Got out of it is just what you just said,

3050
02:45:55,360 --> 02:45:58,600
Speaker 17: my brother, and let's say what it means, right, And

3051
02:45:58,760 --> 02:46:02,520
Speaker 17: so yes, it was a spiritual experience, and that it

3052
02:46:02,680 --> 02:46:08,120
Speaker 17: was reaffirming of our worthiness, our beautifulness, our capacity to

3053
02:46:08,320 --> 02:46:13,120
Speaker 17: stand as one and to demand our rights right and

3054
02:46:13,240 --> 02:46:16,240
Speaker 17: to recommit ourselves to the best of what it means

3055
02:46:16,280 --> 02:46:19,199
Speaker 17: to be African and human in the fullish.

3056
02:46:18,840 --> 02:46:19,600
Speaker 6: Sense of the world.

3057
02:46:20,120 --> 02:46:23,520
Speaker 17: It was also a political experience, a political experience of

3058
02:46:24,080 --> 02:46:29,080
Speaker 17: modeling organized power and to teach us what we can

3059
02:46:29,280 --> 02:46:33,440
Speaker 17: do when we dare to exert ourselves right, when we

3060
02:46:33,600 --> 02:46:37,640
Speaker 17: dare to come together and think deep about our lives,

3061
02:46:37,959 --> 02:46:39,879
Speaker 17: about our struggle, about.

3062
02:46:39,640 --> 02:46:42,480
Speaker 6: The work we must do to bring good into the world.

3063
02:46:43,240 --> 02:46:46,640
Speaker 6: But here's the key. The last thing is it must

3064
02:46:46,720 --> 02:46:52,120
Speaker 6: be morally instructive and morally compelling. It must become a

3065
02:46:52,280 --> 02:46:55,840
Speaker 6: moral imperative, just like it's a moral imperative that we

3066
02:46:55,959 --> 02:46:59,760
Speaker 6: speak truth and we do justice. It's a moral imperitive

3067
02:47:00,160 --> 02:47:03,400
Speaker 6: we continue to struggle that we keep the faith, that

3068
02:47:03,600 --> 02:47:09,280
Speaker 6: we hold the line right when you say that they

3069
02:47:09,360 --> 02:47:12,280
Speaker 6: did what they could is on us. No, it's theirs too.

3070
02:47:12,680 --> 02:47:15,600
Speaker 6: They can't sit down. I don't sit down right, I

3071
02:47:16,480 --> 02:47:18,880
Speaker 6: said when I passed, I wanted to be at a meeting,

3072
02:47:19,360 --> 02:47:21,879
Speaker 6: on the way for the meeting, or just came from meeting.

3073
02:47:22,320 --> 02:47:26,120
Speaker 6: I want us to know we must always struggle for

3074
02:47:26,280 --> 02:47:30,039
Speaker 6: good in the world, not just for ourselves, but because

3075
02:47:30,280 --> 02:47:33,440
Speaker 6: we on our incessus, we improve our presence and we

3076
02:47:33,600 --> 02:47:37,840
Speaker 6: lay the basis for imagining and forging a whole new

3077
02:47:37,959 --> 02:47:42,200
Speaker 6: future in the most ethical, effective and expansive ways. And

3078
02:47:42,360 --> 02:47:45,760
Speaker 6: so we must make the Million Man March and this

3079
02:47:46,320 --> 02:47:49,280
Speaker 6: mission statement and the things that it has, the policy

3080
02:47:49,400 --> 02:47:54,040
Speaker 6: program that it has morally imperative on our on our

3081
02:47:54,320 --> 02:47:57,560
Speaker 6: on our own self in terms of our responsibility, which

3082
02:47:57,600 --> 02:48:00,600
Speaker 6: we're gonna deal with in a minute, and also in

3083
02:48:00,800 --> 02:48:06,840
Speaker 6: terms of holding the oppressive responsible struggling to create and

3084
02:48:07,040 --> 02:48:12,120
Speaker 6: expand free space and inclusive and good space for everyone.

3085
02:48:12,520 --> 02:48:14,280
Speaker 17: But it's specially ourselves, and we.

3086
02:48:14,360 --> 02:48:17,280
Speaker 6: Have to have at the core of our struggle always

3087
02:48:17,600 --> 02:48:21,320
Speaker 6: to achieve African and human good and the well being

3088
02:48:21,400 --> 02:48:22,840
Speaker 6: of the world and all in it.

3089
02:48:23,200 --> 02:48:26,480
Speaker 17: You notice that, and people sometimes move past it. But

3090
02:48:26,600 --> 02:48:29,160
Speaker 17: I want us to remember that we not only had

3091
02:48:29,480 --> 02:48:33,039
Speaker 17: our African concept of what it means to be human

3092
02:48:33,120 --> 02:48:35,440
Speaker 17: and not stress on the human We stressed on the

3093
02:48:35,520 --> 02:48:39,360
Speaker 17: well being of the earth itself, the basis for our life.

3094
02:48:39,800 --> 02:48:42,480
Speaker 6: Right. And this is in ninety five, right, And so

3095
02:48:42,600 --> 02:48:45,200
Speaker 6: I just want y'all to know you got to go

3096
02:48:45,360 --> 02:48:46,320
Speaker 6: back to the basic.

3097
02:48:46,800 --> 02:48:50,640
Speaker 17: Just like we read our sacred text and find things

3098
02:48:50,959 --> 02:48:55,120
Speaker 17: that we're supposed to do and we're morally instructed to

3099
02:48:55,200 --> 02:48:57,800
Speaker 17: do and morally compelled to do. I think we need

3100
02:48:57,920 --> 02:48:59,920
Speaker 17: to look at the Mission Statement if we want it

3101
02:49:00,160 --> 02:49:02,680
Speaker 17: keep it going. We have to remember what we're supposed

3102
02:49:02,680 --> 02:49:05,240
Speaker 17: to do and what we committed ourselves do. And we

3103
02:49:05,320 --> 02:49:09,440
Speaker 17: committed ourselves to atonement, right, And we committed ourselves and

3104
02:49:09,560 --> 02:49:13,080
Speaker 17: that is admitting wrongs and correcting them and seeing ourselves

3105
02:49:13,160 --> 02:49:17,560
Speaker 17: in larger ways. Right, And then we practice reconciliation and

3106
02:49:17,680 --> 02:49:22,640
Speaker 17: reconciliation was we called for reconciliation, which is a companion

3107
02:49:22,760 --> 02:49:26,040
Speaker 17: practice of atonement, for it means for us to bring

3108
02:49:26,160 --> 02:49:30,640
Speaker 17: oneself in harmony with the Creator, with others and with

3109
02:49:30,840 --> 02:49:35,640
Speaker 17: the creation. And so this reconciliation means we call for

3110
02:49:35,879 --> 02:49:40,800
Speaker 17: all of us to settle disputes, overcome conflict, put aside

3111
02:49:40,879 --> 02:49:44,680
Speaker 17: grudges and hatreds in our personal and social relationships and

3112
02:49:44,800 --> 02:49:49,320
Speaker 17: in between our organizations and institutions, in the spirit of

3113
02:49:49,440 --> 02:49:53,400
Speaker 17: brotherhood and sisterhood a community, we call on us to

3114
02:49:53,520 --> 02:49:58,000
Speaker 17: reject and oppose communal, family and personal violence, and to

3115
02:49:58,120 --> 02:50:02,920
Speaker 17: strive to build and sustain loving, mutually, respectful, and reciprocal relationship.

3116
02:50:03,200 --> 02:50:06,680
Speaker 6: In a word, to seek the good, to find it,

3117
02:50:06,959 --> 02:50:08,400
Speaker 6: to embrace it, and hold that thought.

3118
02:50:08,480 --> 02:50:10,440
Speaker 1: Right there, doctor Krengker, we've got to take our last break.

3119
02:50:10,480 --> 02:50:13,880
Speaker 1: I'll let you finish tell us about reconciliation. Wow, this

3120
02:50:14,040 --> 02:50:16,280
Speaker 1: is really deep. If you just checking in family. Our

3121
02:50:16,280 --> 02:50:18,480
Speaker 1: guess is doctor Kreenka. He's one of the architects of

3122
02:50:18,560 --> 02:50:20,920
Speaker 1: the Million Man March. He wrote the mission statement, and

3123
02:50:21,000 --> 02:50:23,080
Speaker 1: he's telling us why he put the statement together and

3124
02:50:23,360 --> 02:50:25,760
Speaker 1: some of the ideals that are in the statement that

3125
02:50:25,840 --> 02:50:29,080
Speaker 1: he collected from the year seven principles of Quansa. What

3126
02:50:29,160 --> 02:50:31,160
Speaker 1: are your thoughts? You want to join this discussion, reach

3127
02:50:31,200 --> 02:50:33,200
Speaker 1: out to us at eight hundred four or five zero

3128
02:50:33,720 --> 02:50:35,959
Speaker 1: seventy eight seventy six and we'll take your phone calls

3129
02:50:36,160 --> 02:50:38,600
Speaker 1: next and Grand Rising family in facts for staying with us.

3130
02:50:38,640 --> 02:50:41,160
Speaker 1: On this Thursday morning, the anniversary of the Million Man March,

3131
02:50:41,200 --> 02:50:43,880
Speaker 1: we have one of the founders, the architect behind the

3132
02:50:44,120 --> 02:50:46,320
Speaker 1: scenes who worked on the Million Man March in Minister

3133
02:50:46,400 --> 02:50:49,560
Speaker 1: Farca and doctor Milana Krenka, the person who created Quanja,

3134
02:50:49,560 --> 02:50:52,160
Speaker 1: and he's given us some of the elements that he

3135
02:50:52,240 --> 02:50:55,920
Speaker 1: put together in the Million March Mission Statement eight hundred

3136
02:50:55,959 --> 02:50:57,960
Speaker 1: four to five zero seventy eight to seventy six. To

3137
02:50:58,000 --> 02:50:59,280
Speaker 1: speak to him. Before we do that, let me just

3138
02:50:59,360 --> 02:51:01,920
Speaker 1: remind you tomorrow is another Friday, and then we give

3139
02:51:01,920 --> 02:51:03,879
Speaker 1: you another edition of Upper for on Friday, we give

3140
02:51:03,879 --> 02:51:05,440
Speaker 1: you a chance to free your mind. All that means

3141
02:51:05,480 --> 02:51:07,480
Speaker 1: it's a thing for yourself. You can join us start

3142
02:51:07,480 --> 02:51:09,880
Speaker 1: at six am Eastern time right here in Baltimore on

3143
02:51:09,959 --> 02:51:14,800
Speaker 1: ten ten WLB and the DMV on AM fourteen fifty WL. So,

3144
02:51:14,959 --> 02:51:17,800
Speaker 1: doctor Kranger, you mentioned first that that atonement, and now

3145
02:51:17,800 --> 02:51:20,000
Speaker 1: you're on reconciliation, so I'll let you pick it up

3146
02:51:20,040 --> 02:51:20,320
Speaker 1: from there.

3147
02:51:21,080 --> 02:51:23,879
Speaker 6: Yes, thank you so much, Carl. And I was closing with.

3148
02:51:25,600 --> 02:51:28,240
Speaker 17: And the one section I was on the closing with

3149
02:51:28,440 --> 02:51:31,960
Speaker 17: the high idea. And this is good because you know,

3150
02:51:32,240 --> 02:51:35,240
Speaker 17: relations of the hubb and hings on which the whole

3151
02:51:35,680 --> 02:51:39,599
Speaker 17: of human life turns. And we kept stressing our relationship,

3152
02:51:40,200 --> 02:51:46,000
Speaker 17: especially a brotherhood and sister relationship, male female relationship, antal relationship.

3153
02:51:46,280 --> 02:51:49,000
Speaker 17: And so we have to strive, we said, to build

3154
02:51:49,040 --> 02:51:53,840
Speaker 17: and sustain loving, usually respectful, and reciprocal relationship.

3155
02:51:54,160 --> 02:51:57,160
Speaker 6: In a word, to seek the good, find it and

3156
02:51:57,320 --> 02:51:58,920
Speaker 6: brace it and build on there.

3157
02:51:59,320 --> 02:52:02,600
Speaker 17: And then also reconciliation means that we must strive for

3158
02:52:03,040 --> 02:52:06,800
Speaker 17: and achieve a principle and active unity for the common good.

3159
02:52:07,320 --> 02:52:11,240
Speaker 17: And this we call operational unity, a concept for cover

3160
02:52:11,440 --> 02:52:15,400
Speaker 17: the philosophy, an operational unity, a unity in diversity, a

3161
02:52:15,560 --> 02:52:19,480
Speaker 17: unity without uniformity, a unity in principle.

3162
02:52:19,120 --> 02:52:19,920
Speaker 6: And in practice.

3163
02:52:20,600 --> 02:52:25,000
Speaker 17: And finally, in terms of reconciliation, we therefore commit and

3164
02:52:25,120 --> 02:52:29,600
Speaker 17: recommit ourselves to the principle and practice of reconciliation, for

3165
02:52:29,800 --> 02:52:33,600
Speaker 17: it is in and through reconciliation that we can embrace

3166
02:52:34,200 --> 02:52:39,160
Speaker 17: stand together, organize our community and solve the problems in it,

3167
02:52:40,080 --> 02:52:45,440
Speaker 17: Harness our energies for maximum development and struggle to end

3168
02:52:45,879 --> 02:52:49,840
Speaker 17: the injustice and create the just and good society we

3169
02:52:49,920 --> 02:52:52,680
Speaker 17: all want and deserve to live in, and then find

3170
02:52:52,720 --> 02:52:57,720
Speaker 17: a responsibility. We challenge in terms of responsibility, each black

3171
02:52:57,920 --> 02:53:01,640
Speaker 17: man in particular and the black community in general, to

3172
02:53:01,840 --> 02:53:07,200
Speaker 17: renew and expand our commitment to responsibility in personal conduct,

3173
02:53:07,600 --> 02:53:11,720
Speaker 17: in family relations, and in obligations to our community and

3174
02:53:11,840 --> 02:53:13,160
Speaker 17: to the struggle.

3175
02:53:12,959 --> 02:53:16,840
Speaker 6: For adjusting good society and better world. And for us

3176
02:53:16,920 --> 02:53:18,400
Speaker 6: to be responsible, it's to.

3177
02:53:18,440 --> 02:53:23,720
Speaker 17: Be willing and readily assume obligations and duties, to be

3178
02:53:23,840 --> 02:53:25,840
Speaker 17: accountable and dependable.

3179
02:53:25,959 --> 02:53:29,040
Speaker 6: That's so important. We've got to be accountable. We've got

3180
02:53:29,120 --> 02:53:33,040
Speaker 6: to be dependable. It means to stand up, to stand together,

3181
02:53:33,480 --> 02:53:36,280
Speaker 6: and to stand in practice. It's got to do it.

3182
02:53:36,400 --> 02:53:40,640
Speaker 17: Practice proves it makes possible everything right. It means to

3183
02:53:40,760 --> 02:53:44,360
Speaker 17: stand up in consciousness and commitment. It means to stand

3184
02:53:44,400 --> 02:53:49,720
Speaker 17: together in harmony and unity as men and brothers, as

3185
02:53:49,840 --> 02:53:54,360
Speaker 17: women and sisters, as partners, as family, and as community.

3186
02:53:54,879 --> 02:53:57,400
Speaker 17: And it means to stand up in practice of struggle.

3187
02:53:57,920 --> 02:54:03,680
Speaker 17: It means dedication, discipline, psychofice, right and achievement, always, always building,

3188
02:54:04,320 --> 02:54:10,280
Speaker 17: doing good, resisting evil, and constantly creating and embracing possibilities

3189
02:54:10,760 --> 02:54:14,200
Speaker 17: for fuller and more meaningful life. We must commit and

3190
02:54:14,280 --> 02:54:18,360
Speaker 17: recommit ourselves. We said to take personal and collective responsibility

3191
02:54:18,680 --> 02:54:21,320
Speaker 17: for our lives and for the welfare and future of

3192
02:54:21,400 --> 02:54:22,880
Speaker 17: our families in our community.

3193
02:54:23,360 --> 02:54:24,560
Speaker 6: And we commit ourselves to.

3194
02:54:24,640 --> 02:54:28,080
Speaker 17: Stand up in knowledge, stand up in knowledge and resolve,

3195
02:54:28,760 --> 02:54:31,880
Speaker 17: to stand together in principle and active unity, and to

3196
02:54:32,040 --> 02:54:36,720
Speaker 17: stand in moral and liberating practice and raising the challenge

3197
02:54:36,720 --> 02:54:41,600
Speaker 17: of a new, renewed and expanded assumption of responsibility. We

3198
02:54:41,800 --> 02:54:45,200
Speaker 17: call on those black men and women with greater means

3199
02:54:45,800 --> 02:54:50,920
Speaker 17: to show the greater responsibility to those who are given more,

3200
02:54:51,320 --> 02:54:51,840
Speaker 17: more as.

3201
02:54:52,040 --> 02:54:55,200
Speaker 6: Required of them. This is interjecting here, but I was

3202
02:54:55,280 --> 02:54:57,920
Speaker 6: just explaining what we mean by those a greater means

3203
02:54:58,360 --> 02:55:02,680
Speaker 6: to show the greater responsibility. Responsibility means also to invest

3204
02:55:03,080 --> 02:55:08,080
Speaker 6: in the community and transform it. But this is inject

3205
02:55:08,480 --> 02:55:11,240
Speaker 6: whatever you got, invest You don't have to have a million,

3206
02:55:11,320 --> 02:55:14,240
Speaker 6: But if you got a million, invest more. If you got,

3207
02:55:14,360 --> 02:55:17,520
Speaker 6: let's give what you got, Give what you got to

3208
02:55:17,680 --> 02:55:21,960
Speaker 6: our people for expanding your community and better in your community,

3209
02:55:22,200 --> 02:55:25,680
Speaker 6: To better yourself, to think of the community is to

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02:55:25,840 --> 02:55:29,520
Speaker 6: enlarge your conception of yourself right and the possibilities for

3211
02:55:29,640 --> 02:55:30,080
Speaker 6: your growth.

3212
02:55:30,720 --> 02:55:35,920
Speaker 17: And it means responsibility means to avoid imitating establish order,

3213
02:55:36,320 --> 02:55:39,480
Speaker 17: and it's disdain for and blame of the poor, and

3214
02:55:39,600 --> 02:55:43,840
Speaker 17: amenable calling the poor names, calling a homeless name. Right,

3215
02:55:44,000 --> 02:55:46,360
Speaker 17: we're supposed to help them, not to harm them.

3216
02:55:46,600 --> 02:55:50,160
Speaker 6: Not to harass them. Right, we owe it to our

3217
02:55:50,560 --> 02:55:53,680
Speaker 6: And that is where the best of our tradition, regardless

3218
02:55:53,760 --> 02:55:57,880
Speaker 6: of what spiritual tradition you leave in, it usually saves

3219
02:55:58,160 --> 02:56:02,000
Speaker 6: a good place, a central place for the least among us,

3220
02:56:02,400 --> 02:56:06,920
Speaker 6: for the poor and the vulnerable, for the degraded and dispossessed,

3221
02:56:07,280 --> 02:56:11,000
Speaker 6: for the occupied, for those against whom genocide is committed.

3222
02:56:11,280 --> 02:56:15,760
Speaker 6: We've got to have a special sense of diffty for us.

3223
02:56:15,840 --> 02:56:19,000
Speaker 17: And other humans in the world. And our obligation is

3224
02:56:19,080 --> 02:56:22,280
Speaker 17: to remember the ancient moral teaching that we should give

3225
02:56:22,320 --> 02:56:24,960
Speaker 17: food to the hungry, water to the thirsty, then close

3226
02:56:25,040 --> 02:56:27,119
Speaker 17: to the naked, and the boat to the boat lift.

3227
02:56:27,520 --> 02:56:29,320
Speaker 6: That we should be a father for the offering, a

3228
02:56:29,400 --> 02:56:32,440
Speaker 6: mother to the timid, a shelter for the batter, a

3229
02:56:32,560 --> 02:56:36,320
Speaker 6: staff of support for those of old age, a companion

3230
02:56:36,560 --> 02:56:39,720
Speaker 6: and comforter of the ill, and aid to the poor,

3231
02:56:40,040 --> 02:56:43,560
Speaker 6: strength for the weak, a wrap for the drowning, and

3232
02:56:43,640 --> 02:56:46,160
Speaker 6: a letter for those trapped in the pit of despair.

3233
02:56:46,680 --> 02:56:50,320
Speaker 6: In a word, to be responsible, we must love justice,

3234
02:56:50,680 --> 02:56:56,560
Speaker 6: hate wrongdoing, resist evil and evil and always always our

3235
02:56:56,640 --> 02:56:58,520
Speaker 6: people always do the good.

3236
02:57:00,200 --> 02:57:02,400
Speaker 1: All right, thirteen away from the top day. I want

3237
02:57:02,440 --> 02:57:04,280
Speaker 1: to clear up some I guess it's an end of

3238
02:57:04,320 --> 02:57:07,039
Speaker 1: that rumor that Michael Jackson funded the Millie Man March.

3239
02:57:07,440 --> 02:57:10,160
Speaker 1: People say he gave three hundred thousand. No he did not.

3240
02:57:11,200 --> 02:57:14,439
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson and Minister Farka and they had a relationship

3241
02:57:14,440 --> 02:57:16,480
Speaker 1: and Minister farcaon has a relationship with a lot of

3242
02:57:16,640 --> 02:57:21,119
Speaker 1: famous folks and doctor Crank you understand this. Or when

3243
02:57:21,160 --> 02:57:23,200
Speaker 1: he was speaking of the Sportsery in in La and

3244
02:57:23,240 --> 02:57:25,240
Speaker 1: he had a pre meeting before the meeting of the

3245
02:57:25,240 --> 02:57:28,760
Speaker 1: Sportsery in with some of the top celebrities entertainers in

3246
02:57:28,879 --> 02:57:30,640
Speaker 1: the city. Because they know they couldn't come to the

3247
02:57:31,040 --> 02:57:33,400
Speaker 1: to the meeting of the Sportsery, except Jim Brown. He

3248
02:57:33,560 --> 02:57:35,280
Speaker 1: was the only one who you know, Jim didn't care,

3249
02:57:35,800 --> 02:57:40,000
Speaker 1: but he understands that that would tarnish their reputation and

3250
02:57:40,160 --> 02:57:43,240
Speaker 1: hurt them, so they support the minister farcun but they

3251
02:57:43,240 --> 02:57:44,920
Speaker 1: don't let the world know. He doesn't let them know.

3252
02:57:45,040 --> 02:57:46,800
Speaker 1: He says he jokes about it and says they kissed

3253
02:57:46,840 --> 02:57:49,240
Speaker 1: him in the dark. We had that conversation. But he

3254
02:57:49,320 --> 02:57:52,680
Speaker 1: did have relationship with Michael Jackson. Michael donated one hundred

3255
02:57:52,680 --> 02:57:54,840
Speaker 1: thousand dollars. He did not fund the march. I don't

3256
02:57:54,840 --> 02:57:56,879
Speaker 1: know if you want to talk about that, doctor Krger.

3257
02:57:57,680 --> 02:57:59,640
Speaker 6: Oh, no, You've said enough about it.

3258
02:58:00,040 --> 02:58:03,119
Speaker 17: And I think we have to keep on the meaning

3259
02:58:03,480 --> 02:58:06,560
Speaker 17: of the march and the meaning of the mission statement.

3260
02:58:06,920 --> 02:58:09,400
Speaker 17: We just have to do that, and you're right. I

3261
02:58:09,440 --> 02:58:12,200
Speaker 17: would say this though, that Minister of fair Time was

3262
02:58:12,360 --> 02:58:17,120
Speaker 17: very perceptive and understanding that sometimes people can't be out front,

3263
02:58:17,520 --> 02:58:22,520
Speaker 17: but they can always be in support, always in support,

3264
02:58:22,800 --> 02:58:25,039
Speaker 17: however they do it, wherever they do it, they can

3265
02:58:25,120 --> 02:58:26,119
Speaker 17: always be support.

3266
02:58:26,360 --> 02:58:26,880
Speaker 6: And you're right.

3267
02:58:27,000 --> 02:58:30,720
Speaker 17: Sometimes he would meet the people uh in in in

3268
02:58:31,320 --> 02:58:32,240
Speaker 17: the hotel something.

3269
02:58:32,440 --> 02:58:34,080
Speaker 6: I've been at those meetings, and.

3270
02:58:34,440 --> 02:58:38,840
Speaker 17: He just reaffords, reaffirmed them in their blackness, and they

3271
02:58:38,920 --> 02:58:42,520
Speaker 17: were reaffirmed by meeting him and being able to talk

3272
02:58:42,560 --> 02:58:45,760
Speaker 17: about things they can't talk sometimes in the open. And

3273
02:58:45,920 --> 02:58:48,120
Speaker 17: I understand that, you know, we got to fight on

3274
02:58:48,280 --> 02:58:51,760
Speaker 17: whatever battlefield we are Paul Roson note in Paul ros

3275
02:58:51,840 --> 02:58:57,440
Speaker 17: I'm sorry, Paul Robson said, guess what he said? That

3276
02:58:57,600 --> 02:59:00,920
Speaker 17: the batter front is everywhere there is no sheltered rear.

3277
02:59:01,480 --> 02:59:05,720
Speaker 17: And Hijim Malcolm now that Hidi Malcolm said, wherever black people.

3278
02:59:06,200 --> 02:59:08,960
Speaker 6: Are is a batter field. That whether we're in the

3279
02:59:09,080 --> 02:59:11,840
Speaker 6: east or the west, or I'm sorry, whether we're in

3280
02:59:11,879 --> 02:59:14,240
Speaker 6: the north of the south, the east of the west,

3281
02:59:14,640 --> 02:59:16,920
Speaker 6: you and I are in a country that is a

3282
02:59:17,000 --> 02:59:19,840
Speaker 6: batter line for all of us. And so we say

3283
02:59:20,480 --> 02:59:24,680
Speaker 6: everywhere a batter line, every day are called to struggle.

3284
02:59:25,280 --> 02:59:28,439
Speaker 6: That's so important for us to see that so important

3285
02:59:28,800 --> 02:59:32,320
Speaker 6: for us. Everywhere a batter line, and every day are

3286
02:59:32,400 --> 02:59:33,240
Speaker 6: called to struggle.

3287
02:59:34,160 --> 02:59:37,000
Speaker 1: All right, that's ten away from the top. Now, Queen's

3288
02:59:37,000 --> 02:59:39,800
Speaker 1: calling for Virginia has a question for you. She's online too,

3289
02:59:39,920 --> 02:59:45,800
Speaker 1: Grand Rising Queen, you're on with doctor Karenga. S Queen

3290
02:59:45,840 --> 02:59:50,240
Speaker 1: there online two not here in Queen, all right, Mike

3291
02:59:50,280 --> 02:59:54,240
Speaker 1: and Maryland, do you have a question for doctor Karenga online.

3292
02:59:53,959 --> 02:59:59,280
Speaker 20: For yes, Baron rising to all just want to know

3293
03:00:00,400 --> 03:00:04,480
Speaker 20: doctor Kerring. Is there a contact number where we can

3294
03:00:04,520 --> 03:00:04,800
Speaker 20: reach you?

3295
03:00:06,160 --> 03:00:09,240
Speaker 6: Yes? Two and three. I mean I'm sorry three two three,

3296
03:00:09,320 --> 03:00:15,160
Speaker 6: I'm sorry three two three two nine six one two

3297
03:00:15,360 --> 03:00:21,360
Speaker 6: four two three two three two nine nine six one two.

3298
03:00:21,360 --> 03:00:23,640
Speaker 4: Four Okay, and I thank you.

3299
03:00:23,760 --> 03:00:25,600
Speaker 20: And I just want to say, you know that those

3300
03:00:25,720 --> 03:00:27,280
Speaker 20: principles they are.

3301
03:00:28,360 --> 03:00:29,840
Speaker 4: They are in my opinion.

3302
03:00:31,080 --> 03:00:33,360
Speaker 20: You know, even though how to say.

3303
03:00:33,320 --> 03:00:36,200
Speaker 21: This, Okay, Well, we celebrate Christmas, and you know, we

3304
03:00:36,720 --> 03:00:40,800
Speaker 21: look at the goodness that Christmas is really about and

3305
03:00:41,959 --> 03:00:46,560
Speaker 21: was it has that same basic elements because it's not

3306
03:00:46,720 --> 03:00:53,000
Speaker 21: about one side versus the other side. It's about people

3307
03:00:53,320 --> 03:00:57,000
Speaker 21: in general who will celebrate these principles that will bring

3308
03:00:57,080 --> 03:01:00,160
Speaker 21: about unity, and of course our people we.

3309
03:01:00,240 --> 03:01:02,600
Speaker 6: Do need to have that unity. But it's not just

3310
03:01:02,760 --> 03:01:03,200
Speaker 6: for us.

3311
03:01:03,600 --> 03:01:07,040
Speaker 21: It's for everybody who practice those principles when you will

3312
03:01:07,080 --> 03:01:09,240
Speaker 21: find a better enlightenment in your mind.

3313
03:01:09,400 --> 03:01:09,800
Speaker 4: That's all.

3314
03:01:12,520 --> 03:01:15,240
Speaker 6: If you mean by I'm sorry, Carl, you're gonna say,

3315
03:01:16,680 --> 03:01:20,200
Speaker 6: go ahead, thank you for that. I appreciate that. And

3316
03:01:20,680 --> 03:01:23,720
Speaker 6: the principles are a sense I don't know the usher mean,

3317
03:01:24,000 --> 03:01:26,680
Speaker 6: but the principle is central for black people. Other people

3318
03:01:26,760 --> 03:01:28,840
Speaker 6: want to practice, they can, but I want us to

3319
03:01:29,000 --> 03:01:30,760
Speaker 6: keep in mind that they're black.

3320
03:01:30,840 --> 03:01:34,040
Speaker 17: And it's not wrong to have a holiday for yourself

3321
03:01:34,200 --> 03:01:37,880
Speaker 17: everybody else does. I mean, you know, nobody asks white

3322
03:01:37,959 --> 03:01:42,040
Speaker 17: ethnics or people of color ethnic not to have their

3323
03:01:42,080 --> 03:01:44,800
Speaker 17: holiday or to every time they talk talk about somebody

3324
03:01:44,840 --> 03:01:45,560
Speaker 17: else can practice.

3325
03:01:45,640 --> 03:01:48,360
Speaker 6: That's we don't need that. What we do is put

3326
03:01:48,400 --> 03:01:51,440
Speaker 6: it forths for ourselves and let other people do what they.

3327
03:01:51,600 --> 03:01:52,440
Speaker 17: Think they want to do.

3328
03:01:52,959 --> 03:01:54,600
Speaker 6: And I think it's another thing.

3329
03:01:55,200 --> 03:01:59,959
Speaker 17: I want us always to keep Quanta Christmas separate because

3330
03:02:00,120 --> 03:02:03,440
Speaker 17: sometimes people think Quansa in Croaches own Christmas because they

3331
03:02:03,560 --> 03:02:09,680
Speaker 17: confuse a culture holiday with the religious holiday. Christianity is

3332
03:02:10,959 --> 03:02:15,320
Speaker 17: a faith holiday, Kwansa is a culture holiday, and that

3333
03:02:15,560 --> 03:02:20,840
Speaker 17: means Blacks of all faith can and do celebrate Quanca.

3334
03:02:22,400 --> 03:02:26,920
Speaker 17: I mean I get notes from email from people from

3335
03:02:27,040 --> 03:02:31,360
Speaker 17: all faith and they like the principles. They like the

3336
03:02:31,480 --> 03:02:36,040
Speaker 17: idea be grounded in our own culture. That's so important

3337
03:02:36,080 --> 03:02:39,840
Speaker 17: for us to be grounded in our own culture. And

3338
03:02:39,959 --> 03:02:43,560
Speaker 17: by culture, I mean views and values and practices that

3339
03:02:43,720 --> 03:02:47,280
Speaker 17: come from that culture. And the larger understanding of culture

3340
03:02:47,879 --> 03:02:48,080
Speaker 17: is the.

3341
03:02:48,200 --> 03:02:52,880
Speaker 6: Totality of sensibilities, thought, and practice by which a people

3342
03:02:53,000 --> 03:02:58,720
Speaker 6: creates itself, celebrates, sustains and develops itself, and introduces itself

3343
03:02:59,000 --> 03:03:03,160
Speaker 6: to history and humanager. And we have this oldest culture.

3344
03:03:03,879 --> 03:03:10,360
Speaker 17: The culture is religion, ethics and spirituality is history, social organization,

3345
03:03:10,480 --> 03:03:14,800
Speaker 17: economic organization, political organization, creative production, your art, your music

3346
03:03:14,879 --> 03:03:17,600
Speaker 17: and literature and dance and others. And find it at

3347
03:03:17,680 --> 03:03:21,800
Speaker 17: those the collective psychology that you achieved in the midst

3348
03:03:21,879 --> 03:03:24,600
Speaker 17: of the life you live, the work you do, and

3349
03:03:24,760 --> 03:03:26,080
Speaker 17: the struggle you wage.

3350
03:03:25,800 --> 03:03:26,280
Speaker 4: In the world.

3351
03:03:27,240 --> 03:03:30,200
Speaker 1: All right, stix away from the top of Queen and Virginia.

3352
03:03:30,240 --> 03:03:31,800
Speaker 1: Can you make it quick for us? Your question for

3353
03:03:31,879 --> 03:03:32,560
Speaker 1: doctor Karrenga.

3354
03:03:33,560 --> 03:03:34,440
Speaker 12: Can you hear me now?

3355
03:03:35,240 --> 03:03:35,800
Speaker 1: We can he hear you.

3356
03:03:37,040 --> 03:03:39,440
Speaker 10: Thank you, Heece, blessings to all of you. I'll be

3357
03:03:39,640 --> 03:03:43,000
Speaker 10: thirty seconds or less. My question I think has been answered.

3358
03:03:43,040 --> 03:03:44,800
Speaker 10: But first I want to thank you all. I saw

3359
03:03:44,920 --> 03:03:48,240
Speaker 10: two millions that day. I was there as a mother

3360
03:03:48,360 --> 03:03:51,920
Speaker 10: for my two sons with my cousin, and we were embraced,

3361
03:03:52,080 --> 03:03:54,680
Speaker 10: we were fed, we were protected. I thank you all.

3362
03:03:55,480 --> 03:03:57,119
Speaker 15: Where do we women.

3363
03:03:58,400 --> 03:04:01,320
Speaker 10: Continue the support to day? Words that needed?

3364
03:04:03,560 --> 03:04:03,840
Speaker 1: All right?

3365
03:04:03,879 --> 03:04:08,200
Speaker 17: Thanks Queen, doctor Karana, thanks so much, Thanks for your questions,

3366
03:04:08,280 --> 03:04:09,439
Speaker 17: thanks for your affirmation.

3367
03:04:10,280 --> 03:04:13,040
Speaker 6: And yes you're right, it was over a million, some

3368
03:04:13,240 --> 03:04:14,840
Speaker 6: say close to two million.

3369
03:04:15,160 --> 03:04:15,320
Speaker 4: You know.

3370
03:04:15,560 --> 03:04:18,280
Speaker 6: The park service stopped during the count and they didn't

3371
03:04:18,280 --> 03:04:20,760
Speaker 6: want to give us credit for what we do. It

3372
03:04:20,879 --> 03:04:23,680
Speaker 6: you know how people be doing, But hey, are we

3373
03:04:23,760 --> 03:04:25,920
Speaker 6: the people to ride the store and remaining attack? You

3374
03:04:26,040 --> 03:04:26,560
Speaker 6: certainly do.

3375
03:04:27,040 --> 03:04:31,800
Speaker 17: So what you can do is wherever you are, contribute,

3376
03:04:31,920 --> 03:04:35,040
Speaker 17: wherever you are, find an organization.

3377
03:04:34,640 --> 03:04:35,120
Speaker 6: To work in.

3378
03:04:35,520 --> 03:04:38,080
Speaker 17: I always say, but if you don't find an organization,

3379
03:04:38,240 --> 03:04:41,080
Speaker 17: just too good. Where you are, in your neighborhood, in

3380
03:04:41,200 --> 03:04:45,160
Speaker 17: your family, teach the beautiful truth too good practice in

3381
03:04:45,240 --> 03:04:48,840
Speaker 17: Guzo Saba. And this we always say that we must,

3382
03:04:48,959 --> 03:04:52,840
Speaker 17: in fact remember, continue to struggle, keep the faith, hold

3383
03:04:52,959 --> 03:04:56,040
Speaker 17: the line, love and respect our people and each other.

3384
03:04:56,360 --> 03:05:00,000
Speaker 17: Practice the seventh principles. In Guzo Saba. She can speak true,

3385
03:05:00,440 --> 03:05:03,800
Speaker 17: do and demand justice, be constantly concerned with the well

3386
03:05:03,879 --> 03:05:06,240
Speaker 17: being of the world and all in it, and there

3387
03:05:06,560 --> 03:05:10,640
Speaker 17: help us rebuild the overarching movement that prefigures and makes

3388
03:05:10,760 --> 03:05:13,720
Speaker 17: possible the good world we all want and deserve to

3389
03:05:13,800 --> 03:05:18,200
Speaker 17: live in and leave as a legacy worthy of the

3390
03:05:18,360 --> 03:05:22,000
Speaker 17: name and history African. Thank you so much called for

3391
03:05:22,160 --> 03:05:24,400
Speaker 17: this and all the work you do, and.

3392
03:05:24,480 --> 03:05:26,400
Speaker 1: Thank you doctor King. And if folks want to hear

3393
03:05:26,480 --> 03:05:29,000
Speaker 1: you more, does you still have your meetings on Sundays

3394
03:05:29,520 --> 03:05:30,520
Speaker 1: in La is it.

3395
03:05:30,720 --> 03:05:35,000
Speaker 6: Every Sunday, and we also have on Friday. Tim give

3396
03:05:35,040 --> 03:05:38,680
Speaker 6: me the email Afro American Culture.

3397
03:05:38,440 --> 03:05:42,320
Speaker 17: Center Email info at.

3398
03:05:44,720 --> 03:05:53,000
Speaker 6: African American Culture Center dash la dot org. Info at

3399
03:05:53,959 --> 03:06:03,320
Speaker 6: Afro American African American Culture Center dash la dot org org,

3400
03:06:05,000 --> 03:06:09,120
Speaker 6: send us a note and you can also run on

3401
03:06:09,160 --> 03:06:09,880
Speaker 6: our website.

3402
03:06:13,000 --> 03:06:15,040
Speaker 1: I thank you doctor Kreger for thank you for all

3403
03:06:15,120 --> 03:06:17,520
Speaker 1: that you do. Thank your sister tam Oil for your

3404
03:06:17,600 --> 03:06:21,119
Speaker 1: work as well with doctor Karenga, and we continue to help,

3405
03:06:21,360 --> 03:06:23,280
Speaker 1: hopefully to hear more from you before we get to

3406
03:06:23,400 --> 03:06:26,840
Speaker 1: the cultural holiday of Quanta looking forward.

3407
03:06:26,920 --> 03:06:33,480
Speaker 6: Thanks again for everything. Carl Happy right, family memoirs, celebration.

3408
03:06:34,080 --> 03:06:38,960
Speaker 1: All right, family, that's it. Sante classes dismissed. Stay strong,

3409
03:06:39,120 --> 03:06:41,680
Speaker 1: stay positive, please stay healthy. We'll see you tomorrow morning,

3410
03:06:41,680 --> 03:06:44,200
Speaker 1: six o'clock right here in Baltimore on ten ten w

3411
03:06:44,560 --> 03:06:48,080
Speaker 1: LB and then the d MV on fourteen fifty WOL