WEBVTT - Mac & Bone Hour 3: Panthering Up??? 

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, oh, oh, it's Mac and Bo on your radio, baby.

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<v Speaker 2>This is my friend Matt. Posh, come on, Posh. This

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<v Speaker 2>is my friend T-Bone.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's have some fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't go to work without listening to Mac and Bone.

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<v Speaker 2>Do it live.

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<v Speaker 1>It's focus.

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<v Speaker 4>It's intentionality. It's understanding that all the little things matter. And,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, the game, when I think about the turnovers

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<v Speaker 4>and different things like that, it all comes down to

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<v Speaker 4>fundamental football. And that's controllable. That's something that we certainly

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<v Speaker 4>can focus on. And the refocus to coming into a

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<v Speaker 4>new week is, look, we just got to recapture our process.

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<v Speaker 4>We got to work on our fundamentals, our identification, our

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<v Speaker 4>alignments on the defensive side, special teams wise, being in

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<v Speaker 4>the right spots in the coverage unit. The return certainly

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<v Speaker 4>securing the ball, all those things. So it returns, it's humbling,

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<v Speaker 4>and it returns us to a focus about what matters.

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<v Speaker 4>It's the littlest things. It's the fundamentals of football. And

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<v Speaker 4>so that gives me an opportunity to really press into

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<v Speaker 4>it and really challenge the guys. And today was a

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<v Speaker 4>great example of that, a great response by the guys,

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<v Speaker 4>being very conscientious in what we're doing.

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<v Speaker 5>That is Coach Canales asked about the tenor of the

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<v Speaker 5>locker room this week as they try to pull themselves

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<v Speaker 5>back together, get themselves together tonight, primetime, literally primetime, on

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<v Speaker 5>prime tonight. Um, uh, Panthers and Packers, they've got a

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<v Speaker 5>chance to rebound a chance to not completely erase. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>not sure they can ever erase bone what they did

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<v Speaker 5>on Sunday. It was shameful, should be a felony, but, um,

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<v Speaker 5>they can certainly, um, go, you know, they, they could

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<v Speaker 5>certainly turn it back around, have a, they win this

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<v Speaker 5>game bone. I feel like we're right back to the

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<v Speaker 5>confidence of, okay. Um, but, but I will say this,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think we'll be confident in the next game. Um,

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think we'll be believing they're going to do

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<v Speaker 5>it two times in a row.

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<v Speaker 3>It's kind of a swing game in some ways, though.

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<v Speaker 3>A win here, and you go, okay, you're feeling a

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<v Speaker 3>whole lot better. You've got Denver at home next with

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<v Speaker 3>time off. I don't even know if a loss, Mac,

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<v Speaker 3>would be detrimental to the psyche of the fan base.

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<v Speaker 3>A no-show would be a horrible thing to have because

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<v Speaker 3>it would be– No show Sunday, no show today, and

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<v Speaker 3>then we got a long time until they play again

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<v Speaker 3>to kind of have to sit in that one. So

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<v Speaker 3>I think that showing up tonight goes a long way,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think they will.

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<v Speaker 2>A blowout loss, I think, would be a horrible thing tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>I would be... I don't think they are, but yes.

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<v Speaker 5>I was going to say, I would be shocked if

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<v Speaker 5>we are not in a very close football game tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>Feels like it.

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<v Speaker 1>But.

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<v Speaker 5>I was shocked last Sunday. I was shocked when they

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<v Speaker 5>gave up 59 to the Bears. This team has shocked

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<v Speaker 5>me before. Packers are good. They're all right. They're not great. No,

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<v Speaker 5>as evidenced by the spread. And they're bagged up as

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<v Speaker 5>much as the Panthers are. What is the point spread?

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<v Speaker 5>Like three and a half? Three and a half. So

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<v Speaker 5>it's very even. So you move that to a neutral site,

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<v Speaker 5>they got the Packers by a half point. So, you

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<v Speaker 5>know what I mean? In a place where they won

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<v Speaker 5>a year ago. This ain't– as a 13-point underdog. This

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<v Speaker 5>is not like last year's lead-up where Vegas is like,

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<v Speaker 5>these guys are going to get killed. Now, I did notice, Bone,

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<v Speaker 5>our friend Michael Bell, that we used to– diehard Panther fan.

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<v Speaker 5>He's great on social media that we used to work

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<v Speaker 5>with here at the station. He always puts up the

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<v Speaker 5>NFL media predictions, like 10 people from NFL.com, NFL media predictions.

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<v Speaker 5>And nine of them picked the Packers to win this game.

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<v Speaker 5>The only NFL media member, Bone, that picked us to

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<v Speaker 5>win was Scooter Magruder. And I'm not even sure that's

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<v Speaker 5>a real person.

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<v Speaker 2>He's actually big time. I have never. That was cracking

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<v Speaker 2>me up.

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<v Speaker 3>I just found out he existed about five minutes ago.

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<v Speaker 3>Panthers all-time record back at Lambeau. Three wins and six losses.

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<v Speaker 3>But one of those wins was the great. The never-ending

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<v Speaker 3>run of one Stephen Eugene Berwine back in 1999.

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<v Speaker 2>That is true.

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<v Speaker 5>The slowest, the slowest run that wasn't 40 yards or

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<v Speaker 5>more ever.

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<v Speaker 2>So what do y'all think?

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<v Speaker 5>Canalison is, since the start of Canalison's second season, the

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<v Speaker 5>Panthers are 8-3. after losses we've given we've given you

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<v Speaker 5>all the stats all week about leading up to the

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<v Speaker 5>green bay game last week no one last year no

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<v Speaker 5>one expected him to do it they lost to the

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<v Speaker 5>bills by 30 the rams game last year they were

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<v Speaker 5>a huge underdog in that game bone uh uh double

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<v Speaker 5>digits Weren't expected to win that game.

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<v Speaker 2>They won that game.

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<v Speaker 5>Atlanta, they rebounded from the 59-point debacle of the Bears

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<v Speaker 5>to beat Atlanta by 31, albeit with the long firm

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<v Speaker 5>of Russian Strand playing quarterback. So I want to know,

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<v Speaker 5>do y'all believe in the Panther bounce-back narrative? Do you

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<v Speaker 5>believe we're going to see them do that tonight? Or

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<v Speaker 5>are the visions of what happened on Sunday making it

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<v Speaker 5>impossible to see that?

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<v Speaker 2>It seems like you kind of believe in the bounce back.

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<v Speaker 3>I do, but it's a very complex, nuanced thing here

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<v Speaker 3>because I do believe in Bryce Young being much better

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<v Speaker 3>than he showed us on Sunday and being more about

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<v Speaker 3>who he is for the totality of the year. But

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<v Speaker 3>for Bryce to be at his highest level, well, the

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<v Speaker 3>offensive line has to perform at a high level. So

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<v Speaker 3>it's weird that I do believe in Bryce, but yet

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<v Speaker 3>my biggest concerns are with– the entire offensive line right now.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's the problem. If the offensive line holds up,

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<v Speaker 3>I think the Panthers can win. But right now, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think anyone truly knows on either offensive line here

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<v Speaker 3>on both sides. I don't think anyone truly knows until

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<v Speaker 3>we see this game play out how that's going to

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<v Speaker 3>go tonight. It's a lot of questions on both sides tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>I just, to me.

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<v Speaker 5>It's going to be a ballgame. I feel really strongly

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<v Speaker 5>about that. Now, granted, I thought we were winning the

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<v Speaker 5>game last week. I've been wrong a time or two, Bone.

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<v Speaker 2>Every now and then. Ask my wife. She'll point out

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of times. Not many, I'm sure.

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<v Speaker 5>But I just feel like, based on what we've seen

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<v Speaker 5>from this team, they're going to rally together. They're going

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<v Speaker 5>to us against the world. I think they seem to

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<v Speaker 5>like it when people are down on them. They seem

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<v Speaker 5>to like it when people ain't giving them a chance.

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<v Speaker 5>Their biggest problem is, oh, you won two in a row?

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<v Speaker 5>You're now expected to win this game. And not only

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<v Speaker 5>are you expected, but the last two weeks, national media

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<v Speaker 5>has been praising you and your quarterback. That's the spot that,

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<v Speaker 5>for some reason, Bone, they wet.

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<v Speaker 2>Their pampers over. You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 5>I don't, I don't really understand why, but this is

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<v Speaker 5>a spot. I really believe there's something to this, that

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<v Speaker 5>this group galvanizes. Now I will agree. The offensive line

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<v Speaker 5>is scary. There's no doubt about it. When you take

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<v Speaker 5>away consistent forces like Lewis, who won't play tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>And of course, Moten who.

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<v Speaker 5>Won't play the rest of the year. I, but I

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<v Speaker 5>will say is.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the exact same line that played against Detroit.

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<v Speaker 3>And they did a great job in game planning against

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<v Speaker 3>Hutchinson in that game when there's not a Hutchinson on

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<v Speaker 3>this line because he's not playing yet.

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<v Speaker 2>So why can't we try?

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<v Speaker 5>I know it's not Detroit's defense, but can we try

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<v Speaker 5>to run the ball to get in favorable down-distance situations

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<v Speaker 5>so you're not in third and long where they can

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<v Speaker 5>pin their ears back?

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<v Speaker 2>Can you.

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<v Speaker 5>Get the quick passing game going like you did against

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<v Speaker 5>Detroit if you're worried about this O-line. Because I will

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<v Speaker 5>point out, this O-line group, Bone, was there for the

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<v Speaker 5>best win.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the season.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think with the Packers' offensive line problems, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>expecting a... vintage derrick brown performance tonight i think we're

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<v Speaker 3>due for one where he wrecks shop i think derrick

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<v Speaker 3>brown he knows he's not been at his best he

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<v Speaker 3>knows how much the team needs him you don't think

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<v Speaker 3>that guy's embarrassed of what that defense has been a

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<v Speaker 3>part of multiple times this year i'm expecting the highest

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<v Speaker 3>level of derrick brown and i unless there's a Some

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<v Speaker 3>injuries that we don't know about and it's really affecting them.

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<v Speaker 3>If Derrick Brown is healthy and just playing poorly, I

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<v Speaker 3>expect him tonight to wreak havoc against that interior of

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<v Speaker 3>the Packer offensive line. Derrick Brown tonight cuts through the cheese.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like that whole breakdown was setting up that line, man.

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<v Speaker 3>It was just, you just putting it on a platter to.

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<v Speaker 2>Finish it off. No, I thought about it about halfway through.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, okay. The fact that I made a cut the

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<v Speaker 3>cheese line if he didn't laugh is really. You're disappointed

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<v Speaker 3>in Panther Cutting? That was built for him.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm mature.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, in case you missed the show, he's now known

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<v Speaker 2>as Tiny Archibald.

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<v Speaker 6>No, that's not happening.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't like that one?

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<v Speaker 7>No, you want to start calling me Spud, Marlo? I'm

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<v Speaker 7>here to be called Spud because I love potatoes. I'm

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<v Speaker 7>a big believer in potatoes, a big advocate for potatoes.

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<v Speaker 6>Tiny Archibald? Let's be honest, that's too long of a

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<v Speaker 6>name for you to pronounce anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>It is maybe a little too wordy.

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<v Speaker 5>That seems to be the criticism we're getting, Bone, is

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<v Speaker 5>that even though it fits because Fitty is both tiny

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<v Speaker 5>and bald.

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<v Speaker 6>Now you want to call me Tiny Fit? I don't

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<v Speaker 6>really hate that.

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<v Speaker 3>If Colin signs off because he owns the rights to

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<v Speaker 3>your name, if he calls you Spud, then you're just

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<v Speaker 3>going to be Spud from now on. You are kind

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<v Speaker 3>of respectfully potato-shaped a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Somebody said, what about Smugsy? Small and smug. Does that work?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not smug, though. No, not at all, Fit. Good point.

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<v Speaker 5>Walls would like Bone to do the pep talk today.

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<v Speaker 5>He seems to think you got it inside you today, baby.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, don't ask the former leader of the pep club

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<v Speaker 3>to do a pep talk. I'll make us a sign

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<v Speaker 3>and run through it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know that was my role, right? Is that what

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<v Speaker 2>you did? Those paper signs and then the team runs

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<v Speaker 2>through it? Yeah, I had to make those. Oh, dude.

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<v Speaker 7>Did you ever not get through the sign bone?

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't run through the sign. He just made it.

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<v Speaker 2>I made the signs. Oh, that's even worse.

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<v Speaker 3>Think about this, Mac. Think about my athletic prowess back then.

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<v Speaker 3>I had to watch my friend to run through the sign.

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<v Speaker 3>But they were damn good signs.

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<v Speaker 5>Packers offensive line has really struggled, especially in run block.

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<v Speaker 5>And pass protection numbers are a lot better. But the

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<v Speaker 5>run block has been really bad. But they're missing Glover,

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<v Speaker 5>their right guard. They're missing Ryan, their starting center. off

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<v Speaker 5>an offensive line that already is 31st in run blocking grade.

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<v Speaker 5>I just think they're going to be one-dimensional tonight. I

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<v Speaker 5>think the run defense of games two through five reappears

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<v Speaker 5>tonight because I think the Packers' run game is not capable.

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<v Speaker 5>I also think, Bone, you've got to commit. To do

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<v Speaker 5>what the Bears did to us, what the Bucks did

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<v Speaker 5>to us, and sadly what 10 other teams have done

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<v Speaker 5>to us in the Ajiro Vero era. But you have

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<v Speaker 5>to really commit to the run game. The Packers don't

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<v Speaker 5>commit to the run game. The Packers' rush rate is

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<v Speaker 5>the lowest in the league. Their pass percentage is the highest.

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<v Speaker 5>They air it out. So I feel like it's a

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<v Speaker 5>game where if it's Marco Wilson, who Mike Kay says

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<v Speaker 5>is getting called up from the practice squad because Evans

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<v Speaker 5>is out, if it's Marco Wilson and Will Lee, those

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<v Speaker 5>are the guys– against Watson and Golden if he plays,

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<v Speaker 5>Jordan Love is tied for first in deep balls completed

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<v Speaker 5>in the league.

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<v Speaker 2>Bryce is third, by the way.

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<v Speaker 5>So I just feel like, Bone, they can't resist the

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<v Speaker 5>temptation to go after our young corners. And I don't

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<v Speaker 5>think we have to worry about this team that's going

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<v Speaker 5>to want to pound the foot, unless they do a

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<v Speaker 5>complete about-face and try to hit us with an okey-doke,

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<v Speaker 5>you know?

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<v Speaker 3>Where's Green Bay Mac in time of possession? Because it

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<v Speaker 3>can't be that high up, right, the way they play?

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<v Speaker 2>Definitely can't.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't run the ball in the deep shots. It's

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<v Speaker 3>not going to be a heavy, heavy... heavy possession time

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<v Speaker 3>tonight for the Packers.

0:11:48.429 --> 0:11:48.990
<v Speaker 2>They're going to move.

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<v Speaker 3>They're going to go quickly, whether it's three and out or,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, they're getting yards in a chunk. It's not

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<v Speaker 3>a team that's going to have the ball for very long.

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't think.

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<v Speaker 5>So why don't we then try to possess the ball

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<v Speaker 5>and put Jordan Love standing on that heated bench?

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<v Speaker 2>They're 29th in offensive time of possession.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and that's what happens when you run it the

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<v Speaker 5>least amount in the league and the least effective in

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<v Speaker 5>the league.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess that would be possession, I guess, offensive time.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess that is possession.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know why. It says it on here, but

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know why it says it on there like that.

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<v Speaker 5>So, yeah, how about we come out running for the

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<v Speaker 5>first real time this year and get the quick passing

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<v Speaker 5>game going with it, get some confidence in our O-line maybe,

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<v Speaker 5>open up some holes, and how about we keep, again,

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<v Speaker 5>Jordan Love, Keep that fanny over there on that heated

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<v Speaker 5>bench in Lambeau, Boney. Keep his cheeks nice and toasty.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm looking out for you, Giorno.

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<v Speaker 2>Keep your moons warm, poor Willie P. Keep that waning

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<v Speaker 2>gibbous warm. I don't want it. One rule of life

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<v Speaker 2>that I have is I don't want my gibbous to wane. Oh, God.

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<v Speaker 7>But you know, Mack, you don't have a good point

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<v Speaker 7>with the run game. I thought Izzik was committed to

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<v Speaker 7>the run on Sunday until the game flow dictated him.

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<v Speaker 1>Not to be.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the thing is they had no chance. We also,

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<v Speaker 2>at some point, poor Chuba.

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<v Speaker 7>Can he have a big run that stands without one

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<v Speaker 7>of these offensive linemen committing some penalty that brings it all?

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<v Speaker 6>Now, look, I thought the Trimble hold on Sunday was pathetic.

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<v Speaker 2>To me, that was not a hold.

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<v Speaker 6>I thought that was just blocking.

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<v Speaker 2>Hated that call.

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<v Speaker 6>But has there been a running back?

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<v Speaker 7>In the NFL to have more yards taken away from

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<v Speaker 7>him because of penalty than Chuba Hubbard this year.

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<v Speaker 6>Because it feels like every time he has a big run,

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<v Speaker 6>there's a flag.

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<v Speaker 5>And it's good that you bring up penalties because Bone

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<v Speaker 5>was saying which offensive line can hold up could be

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<v Speaker 5>the game. I also think penalties is very important. Green Bay,

0:13:40.050 --> 0:13:42.010
<v Speaker 5>believe it or not, commits more penalties than we do

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<v Speaker 5>per game. I was shocked. They commit the most in

0:13:44.490 --> 0:13:47.689
<v Speaker 5>the league, Bone, per game. Panthers are now 4th. We're

0:13:47.730 --> 0:13:50.500
<v Speaker 5>actually got three teams, bigger knuckleheads than we are.

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<v Speaker 2>Rob Hudson, watch this. So let's see. Can we get out?

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<v Speaker 2>He's going to water to a tailgate on a play. Oh, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm down here. I'm going to grab a brat, sir.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, shoot.

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<v Speaker 5>Did I go too far on this pass play? So

0:14:04.040 --> 0:14:06.760
<v Speaker 5>the Packers, maybe the Packers help us out. Packers are

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<v Speaker 5>also number one in drops in the NFL. So for

0:14:09.640 --> 0:14:13.080
<v Speaker 5>all Jordan Love's 15 deep completions, Bone. And all the

0:14:13.100 --> 0:14:15.300
<v Speaker 5>stuff that he's been doing in the passing game and

0:14:15.340 --> 0:14:19.390
<v Speaker 5>Watson's been doing and Golden's been doing, those receivers have.

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<v Speaker 2>Dropped 21 passes. So can they help us?

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<v Speaker 5>Can they keep doing the drop thing and the penalty

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<v Speaker 5>thing and help us out a little bit tonight? Jordan

0:14:27.890 --> 0:14:32.280
<v Speaker 5>Love also boned 12 turnover-worthy plays, according to PFF. That's

0:14:32.320 --> 0:14:34.960
<v Speaker 5>a pretty high number. Can Jordan Love give it to

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<v Speaker 5>us tonight? This defense has not forced turnovers really outside

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<v Speaker 5>the Bears.

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<v Speaker 3>Matt, do you remember the last time the Packers played

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<v Speaker 3>on Thursday night football?

0:14:44.090 --> 0:14:44.890
<v Speaker 2>The Falcons.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, week three at home, they got destroyed. That's where

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<v Speaker 3>the Falcons really started to feel, oh, we might be

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<v Speaker 3>pretty good. Then, of course, they've been up and down.

0:14:52.360 --> 0:14:56.480
<v Speaker 3>But they lost by 21 to Atlanta. And Atlanta team, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>by the way, that was reeling at the quarterback spot

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<v Speaker 3>going into that game.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, and Jordan Love at that point was playing pretty bad.

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<v Speaker 5>Since then, he's really turned it up. I would love

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<v Speaker 5>to get that version of Love. I don't think we're

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<v Speaker 5>going to, though. I feel like he'll play well tonight, Bone.

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<v Speaker 5>If they run it on us, that's a damn shame.

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<v Speaker 2>They're also beat Chicago 31-7-2, so they're very up and

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<v Speaker 2>down like everybody else is in this league.

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<v Speaker 5>That was the one where they forced five turnovers from

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<v Speaker 5>the Bears in that game. Secret Bajet man.

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<v Speaker 2>Was it him? It was him in that game, right,

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<v Speaker 2>that kept turning it over? Yes.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so that was one. Again, don't hand them the

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<v Speaker 5>ball five times. You know, that's part of the formula.

0:15:34.620 --> 0:15:37.960
<v Speaker 5>You handed the ball three times to the Bears in

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<v Speaker 5>a blowout loss. You handed the ball four times to

0:15:41.160 --> 0:15:44.740
<v Speaker 5>the Bucs in a blowout loss. Green Bay's number one

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<v Speaker 5>in turnover. Xavier McKinney is number one in interceptions, and

0:15:50.660 --> 0:15:53.340
<v Speaker 5>the Packers are number one in interceptions. So, like, Bryce,

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<v Speaker 5>you got to go back to taking care of this

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<v Speaker 5>football like you did the first five games, broski.

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<v Speaker 2>You got to, man. Textures seem to be all over

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<v Speaker 2>the place.

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<v Speaker 5>There is a little bit more textures than I thought

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<v Speaker 5>that are picking the Panthers to win because they just

0:16:07.950 --> 0:16:09.770
<v Speaker 5>kind of feel like they know this team and this

0:16:09.830 --> 0:16:12.550
<v Speaker 5>is the spot they went in. You do have this

0:16:12.570 --> 0:16:18.550
<v Speaker 5>9-8-0 number. Mack, bounce back, my hiney. This season is over.

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<v Speaker 5>We can start talking.

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<v Speaker 2>Draft, fellas. So there you go. He does not believe

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<v Speaker 2>in bounce backs. Interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>When we come back, we're going to talk to Sam

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<v Speaker 3>Farber of the Hornets Radio Network, both about the performance

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<v Speaker 3>of Brandon Miller, the loss last night, and just his

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<v Speaker 3>takeaway of the Nas Reid situation on Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ.

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<v Speaker 5>Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ.

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<v Speaker 2>It's happening, man. It is happening, Bone.

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<v Speaker 5>We talked about the NFL media members were 9 out

0:17:07.570 --> 0:17:12.379
<v Speaker 5>of 10, picked the Packers to beat the Panthers. Now

0:17:12.500 --> 0:17:16.640
<v Speaker 5>ESPN on GetUp has a graphic up where 4 for 4.

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<v Speaker 5>have picked the Packers over the Panthers. Isn't this the

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<v Speaker 5>spot that we actually ball out, man?

0:17:24.609 --> 0:17:25.590
<v Speaker 2>It just is.

0:17:25.730 --> 0:17:27.790
<v Speaker 3>The Bustin' with the Boys crew might be the guys

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<v Speaker 3>that are more wrong than we are, so this is

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<v Speaker 3>great news for us. I just don't know. Do I

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<v Speaker 3>Panther up? I'm starting to believe I'm bad luck.

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<v Speaker 6>So you're just now starting to believe that stuff?

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<v Speaker 3>Hold on.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a small sample.

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<v Speaker 6>We got 20 years of evidence to say you suck.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's what I needed.

0:17:46.470 --> 0:17:48.770
<v Speaker 5>Once we got about 21 years in, then I started

0:17:48.790 --> 0:17:52.750
<v Speaker 5>feeling like we had a big enough sample size. It's

0:17:52.790 --> 0:17:54.850
<v Speaker 5>like everybody used to say about Taylor Swift when she

0:17:54.869 --> 0:17:56.949
<v Speaker 5>would write all the songs about what was wrong with

0:17:56.970 --> 0:17:59.909
<v Speaker 5>all her boyfriends. And people would say, maybe you're the problem.

0:18:00.030 --> 0:18:03.880
<v Speaker 5>I'm just starting to figure out maybe I am the problem.

0:18:04.060 --> 0:18:04.440
<v Speaker 6>Maybe.

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<v Speaker 2>Go figure.

0:18:05.080 --> 0:18:06.700
<v Speaker 6>Your curse can drink. Now you believe in it.

0:18:07.780 --> 0:18:10.379
<v Speaker 2>All right that's why people have a lot of bad blood.

0:18:10.500 --> 0:18:13.360
<v Speaker 5>Anyway there you go there you go all right let's

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<v Speaker 5>um uh let's bring in a man and i feel

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<v Speaker 5>like this is a good day for this man not

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<v Speaker 5>only because we've got a hornets game to recap and

0:18:20.310 --> 0:18:24.230
<v Speaker 5>some juicy storylines but also bone because i remember this

0:18:24.310 --> 0:18:26.410
<v Speaker 5>man trying to tell me when the whole free world

0:18:26.430 --> 0:18:29.540
<v Speaker 5>was picking the rams including us to beat the panthers

0:18:29.900 --> 0:18:32.560
<v Speaker 5>this man said the panthers will win and i'll be

0:18:32.619 --> 0:18:35.879
<v Speaker 5>damned if they got it done Sam Farber, voice of

0:18:35.900 --> 0:18:38.439
<v Speaker 5>your Charlotte Hornets with us for his weekly visit.

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<v Speaker 2>Sam, what's going on, brother? How you doing?

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<v Speaker 1>We're doing great. Road trip off to a little bit

0:18:45.080 --> 0:18:48.070
<v Speaker 1>of a rocky start there with the loss of Detroit.

0:18:48.119 --> 0:18:50.830
<v Speaker 1>But you know what? Hornets above 500 will take it.

0:18:51.410 --> 0:18:55.090
<v Speaker 1>Haven't even gotten the full roster on the floor just yet.

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<v Speaker 1>So the best is yet to come.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm with you on that, man.

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<v Speaker 3>Sam, before we get into Brandon Miller's performance and all

0:19:02.920 --> 0:19:05.620
<v Speaker 3>that stuff, we have to ask your thoughts on what

0:19:05.660 --> 0:19:09.000
<v Speaker 3>transpired last night. Nas Reed does not play in the

0:19:09.040 --> 0:19:12.060
<v Speaker 3>second half. Charles Lee explains it was not illness, it

0:19:12.080 --> 0:19:16.250
<v Speaker 3>was not injury. He did not meet the standards of

0:19:16.290 --> 0:19:19.710
<v Speaker 3>the team, and they hope that he will going forward.

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<v Speaker 3>What are your thoughts on what transpired last night from

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<v Speaker 3>what you know?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, in a certain sense, like obviously they're

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<v Speaker 1>to see the game and have been around the team

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<v Speaker 1>but have not heard specifically from Nas, have not heard

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<v Speaker 1>further from Coach on what exactly it was. I think

0:19:37.470 --> 0:19:39.470
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of layers to this. For one, I

0:19:39.510 --> 0:19:42.250
<v Speaker 1>think Nas deserves a lot of credit. There are times

0:19:42.310 --> 0:19:46.840
<v Speaker 1>that something like this will happen and the player you know,

0:19:46.980 --> 0:19:49.400
<v Speaker 1>will be seen in a certain way, you know, acting

0:19:49.440 --> 0:19:51.359
<v Speaker 1>a certain way on the bench. And that wasn't the case.

0:19:51.440 --> 0:19:54.620
<v Speaker 1>Nas was engaged. He was talking to teammates. He was,

0:19:54.720 --> 0:19:56.399
<v Speaker 1>you know, trying to pick up his team and do

0:19:56.420 --> 0:19:58.859
<v Speaker 1>what he could to aid the team along. So I

0:19:58.900 --> 0:20:01.050
<v Speaker 1>think he deserves a lot of credit for that. And,

0:20:01.070 --> 0:20:04.310
<v Speaker 1>you know, look, this team has higher aspirations than just

0:20:04.390 --> 0:20:07.409
<v Speaker 1>winning a 40 to 45 games and making the play in.

0:20:07.710 --> 0:20:11.340
<v Speaker 1>And part of that is accountability and, and meeting the standard.

0:20:11.780 --> 0:20:15.679
<v Speaker 1>And so, you know, I expect we will hear more about,

0:20:15.780 --> 0:20:18.219
<v Speaker 1>you know, what, what exactly, or at least coach will

0:20:18.240 --> 0:20:22.419
<v Speaker 1>be asked more about what exactly transpired. And, and now

0:20:22.440 --> 0:20:25.790
<v Speaker 1>it's probably will as well. And I think the team

0:20:25.900 --> 0:20:29.429
<v Speaker 1>is going to, you know, rally around one another and

0:20:29.510 --> 0:20:32.130
<v Speaker 1>take that next step and become an even better ball club. But,

0:20:32.210 --> 0:20:35.170
<v Speaker 1>but obviously, you know, it had an impact. not having

0:20:35.210 --> 0:20:37.780
<v Speaker 1>him on the floor for the second half last night

0:20:37.859 --> 0:20:40.980
<v Speaker 1>and a winnable game. But it's not about one game.

0:20:41.040 --> 0:20:43.800
<v Speaker 1>It's about what you can do at the end of 82.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I got.

0:20:45.119 --> 0:20:47.060
<v Speaker 5>Why am I going to fight with it? My hand

0:20:47.140 --> 0:20:50.020
<v Speaker 5>is stuck in the microphone thing. So I keep pulling.

0:20:50.119 --> 0:20:53.109
<v Speaker 3>I apologize to my partner here. He's getting, he's getting

0:20:53.190 --> 0:20:56.130
<v Speaker 3>beat up in the paint by the microphone. I'm disheveled

0:20:56.210 --> 0:20:56.970
<v Speaker 3>over here, Sammy.

0:20:57.050 --> 0:20:57.930
<v Speaker 2>It's game day.

0:20:58.109 --> 0:21:00.390
<v Speaker 5>I'm a little shook by what happened last night in Detroit.

0:21:00.730 --> 0:21:03.690
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, I heard that thing rattled twice. Like you threw

0:21:03.710 --> 0:21:04.130
<v Speaker 2>a punch or something.

0:21:04.609 --> 0:21:06.670
<v Speaker 5>I couldn't get it out. It was in there two times.

0:21:06.690 --> 0:21:10.359
<v Speaker 5>All right, Sammy, let's continue the conversation about this. I

0:21:10.380 --> 0:21:11.720
<v Speaker 5>do want to get to Brandon Miller because I think

0:21:11.760 --> 0:21:14.880
<v Speaker 5>he is proving that he's got things in that bag that,

0:21:14.940 --> 0:21:17.600
<v Speaker 5>you know, maybe we didn't see when he had, you know,

0:21:17.619 --> 0:21:20.859
<v Speaker 5>LaMelo with with him. But let's talk about the Nas

0:21:20.900 --> 0:21:23.360
<v Speaker 5>Reed thing a little more. were you shocked by this?

0:21:23.420 --> 0:21:26.800
<v Speaker 5>Because I was shocked. A, I never really thought Nas

0:21:26.840 --> 0:21:29.740
<v Speaker 5>would be a guy that just, you know, that ever

0:21:30.160 --> 0:21:32.830
<v Speaker 5>would be like, oh, you're below a team standard. So

0:21:32.880 --> 0:21:36.730
<v Speaker 5>I was with his reputation. And then two, I didn't

0:21:36.750 --> 0:21:39.430
<v Speaker 5>really think Charles Lee had this in him. The full benching,

0:21:39.790 --> 0:21:42.570
<v Speaker 5>the calling him out with Shannon Spake and telling everybody

0:21:42.609 --> 0:21:45.170
<v Speaker 5>he didn't meet the standard. That's why we we benched him.

0:21:45.570 --> 0:21:47.430
<v Speaker 5>I thought he's a little, was it a little more

0:21:47.550 --> 0:21:50.850
<v Speaker 5>subtle and maybe not like this much of a, of

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<v Speaker 5>a hard ass for lack of a better term.

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<v Speaker 2>How surprised were you by this development?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's clearly a bit out of the blue.

0:21:58.550 --> 0:22:00.670
<v Speaker 1>Cause I mean, just prior to the game and rightfully

0:22:00.770 --> 0:22:04.990
<v Speaker 1>so Nas was being delivered praise by coaches and again,

0:22:05.050 --> 0:22:08.450
<v Speaker 1>deservedly so for what he brings to the table, his

0:22:08.560 --> 0:22:12.500
<v Speaker 1>experience and, And that level of accountability. So, you know,

0:22:13.320 --> 0:22:18.189
<v Speaker 1>I can see how it is perhaps a bit confusing. But,

0:22:18.210 --> 0:22:20.650
<v Speaker 1>you know, the world is scary and confusing and stressful

0:22:20.670 --> 0:22:22.730
<v Speaker 1>and exhausting. And basketball is all of that, but in

0:22:22.750 --> 0:22:25.290
<v Speaker 1>a good way. And so, you know, I think there

0:22:25.470 --> 0:22:29.710
<v Speaker 1>are lessons to be taken away from, you know, what happened.

0:22:30.070 --> 0:22:33.179
<v Speaker 1>I don't think at this point we know everything about it.

0:22:33.230 --> 0:22:36.530
<v Speaker 1>There's just, you know, the initial item that we saw.

0:22:37.270 --> 0:22:40.030
<v Speaker 1>There is the quote that we have from Coach. There

0:22:40.090 --> 0:22:42.250
<v Speaker 1>aren't further details, and I don't know if we're going

0:22:42.270 --> 0:22:44.770
<v Speaker 1>to get all of the details on this, but I

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<v Speaker 1>do expect, given the character of Nas and the way

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<v Speaker 1>that Coach has developed these relationships with his players, that

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to see everyone go to a better, higher

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<v Speaker 1>level moving forward.

0:22:58.920 --> 0:23:02.560
<v Speaker 3>Sam, on a more positive note, Brandon Miller appears like–

0:23:02.890 --> 0:23:05.719
<v Speaker 3>You know, that star turn is happening for him right now.

0:23:05.760 --> 0:23:08.980
<v Speaker 3>Was already approaching that, but the last few games, man,

0:23:09.040 --> 0:23:12.150
<v Speaker 3>he has been everything you could want. What's your assessment

0:23:12.190 --> 0:23:15.609
<v Speaker 3>of Brandon Miller's game? Not just the scoring, but the

0:23:15.710 --> 0:23:17.629
<v Speaker 3>full game that's been on display here.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's a superstar. I think that's what we're

0:23:21.070 --> 0:23:23.990
<v Speaker 1>seeing here. Three consecutive 30-point games. He's never done that

0:23:24.030 --> 0:23:26.119
<v Speaker 1>in his career. He's the only player in the NBA

0:23:26.380 --> 0:23:28.959
<v Speaker 1>so far this season to have accomplished that. And there

0:23:28.980 --> 0:23:32.340
<v Speaker 1>are some very talented scorers across the NBA, as we

0:23:32.359 --> 0:23:34.879
<v Speaker 1>well know. But on top of that is that the

0:23:34.900 --> 0:23:38.720
<v Speaker 1>team is winning. And they're winning without having the full roster.

0:23:38.980 --> 0:23:42.780
<v Speaker 1>I get three and two. You're one off night away

0:23:43.140 --> 0:23:47.119
<v Speaker 1>from being below 500. But they're not. They're winning these games.

0:23:47.920 --> 0:23:50.500
<v Speaker 1>One game was just a total stinker across the board,

0:23:50.540 --> 0:23:52.790
<v Speaker 1>and even the loss last night, you can make the

0:23:52.850 --> 0:23:58.350
<v Speaker 1>argument that Brandon, in terms of superstar power, was going

0:23:58.890 --> 0:24:01.630
<v Speaker 1>far from full strength. Conor Knieppel's not out there yet.

0:24:01.690 --> 0:24:03.690
<v Speaker 1>Kobe White's not out there yet. Grant Williams is not

0:24:03.750 --> 0:24:06.240
<v Speaker 1>out there yet. Nas Reed didn't play in the second half,

0:24:06.340 --> 0:24:08.460
<v Speaker 1>and still the team had a shot to win going

0:24:08.480 --> 0:24:11.619
<v Speaker 1>down the stretch because Brandon Miller has been playing so well.

0:24:12.740 --> 0:24:15.440
<v Speaker 1>I look at him compared to the guy on the

0:24:15.480 --> 0:24:18.350
<v Speaker 1>other side last night, Cade Cunningham, And I don't see

0:24:18.430 --> 0:24:21.810
<v Speaker 1>a reason why Brandon can't continue to elevate and reach

0:24:21.869 --> 0:24:26.300
<v Speaker 1>that level, particularly when some of those high-level running mates

0:24:26.340 --> 0:24:29.220
<v Speaker 1>who are just stars in their own right in an

0:24:29.300 --> 0:24:32.679
<v Speaker 1>offensive and defensive way are there to assist him and

0:24:32.720 --> 0:24:35.180
<v Speaker 1>take some of the pressure off of him. But right now,

0:24:35.300 --> 0:24:39.480
<v Speaker 1>with the entire focus of a really good defensive Detroit

0:24:39.520 --> 0:24:43.310
<v Speaker 1>team laser-focused on him, he was still able to go

0:24:43.350 --> 0:24:46.109
<v Speaker 1>for 30 and still almost won the game on the road.

0:24:46.190 --> 0:24:48.800
<v Speaker 1>So he has been extremely impressive here.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, absolutely. You said it.

0:24:50.380 --> 0:24:54.400
<v Speaker 5>It's all NBA potential when you watch. I mean, you're

0:24:54.460 --> 0:24:57.300
<v Speaker 5>seeing him become a professional scorer right in front of

0:24:57.359 --> 0:25:00.700
<v Speaker 5>our eyes. And 12 rebounds last night. 12 boards last

0:25:00.760 --> 0:25:03.860
<v Speaker 5>night was huge, too. Just get him the dang ball

0:25:04.260 --> 0:25:06.000
<v Speaker 5>and get out of the way. And I'm with you, man.

0:25:06.040 --> 0:25:08.900
<v Speaker 5>He'll become more efficient when we get Khan and Kobe there,

0:25:09.320 --> 0:25:11.760
<v Speaker 5>and he won't have to maybe take the tough shots

0:25:11.780 --> 0:25:14.590
<v Speaker 5>he's taken. But, dang, if he is not making a

0:25:14.810 --> 0:25:18.250
<v Speaker 5>bunch of tough get-to-your-spots, play-through-contact shots.

0:25:18.430 --> 0:25:19.710
<v Speaker 2>I mean, there'll be nights. I love it, man.

0:25:19.750 --> 0:25:20.050
<v Speaker 5>I love it.

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<v Speaker 3>Sam, there'll be nights when if Khan is red hot

0:25:22.550 --> 0:25:24.490
<v Speaker 3>or Kobe wipes out a big night, there'll be nights

0:25:24.510 --> 0:25:27.650
<v Speaker 3>when Brandon Miller might be the— the second option at

0:25:27.690 --> 0:25:30.910
<v Speaker 3>certain nights, or, you know, that pushes Nas Reid down.

0:25:30.710 --> 0:25:32.530
<v Speaker 2>To the fourth option on offense.

0:25:32.550 --> 0:25:34.210
<v Speaker 3>That's a heck of a, that's a heck of a

0:25:34.260 --> 0:25:37.680
<v Speaker 3>starting group there once they all get back.

0:25:37.680 --> 0:25:37.860
<v Speaker 2>100%.

0:25:37.859 --> 0:25:40.700
<v Speaker 1>And like, you know, that's the issue, you know, talking

0:25:40.720 --> 0:25:43.780
<v Speaker 1>to the Detroit folks, that's the thing, the problem that

0:25:44.140 --> 0:25:47.550
<v Speaker 1>in some people around theirs opinions, they did not solve

0:25:47.830 --> 0:25:50.149
<v Speaker 1>in the rosters they made. Like John Collins is a

0:25:50.170 --> 0:25:53.570
<v Speaker 1>good player and, But they were looking for a number

0:25:53.650 --> 0:25:57.470
<v Speaker 1>two star, a second all-star who you can give the

0:25:57.510 --> 0:26:00.359
<v Speaker 1>ball to. Not that Jalen Dern isn't an all-star, but

0:26:00.420 --> 0:26:02.459
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. He's a different kind of player.

0:26:02.520 --> 0:26:09.080
<v Speaker 1>He's more in the vein of a star rebounder, defensive presence,

0:26:09.580 --> 0:26:12.800
<v Speaker 1>different kind of guy, very valuable, but different kind of player.

0:26:13.080 --> 0:26:16.250
<v Speaker 1>Same thing with Asar Thompson, valuable player, not someone you

0:26:16.270 --> 0:26:18.390
<v Speaker 1>can hand the ball to and say, get us a bucket.

0:26:19.290 --> 0:26:21.890
<v Speaker 1>And so, you know, they, for all their success last year,

0:26:21.990 --> 0:26:25.750
<v Speaker 1>were looking for someone like Brandon Miller. And in Brandon,

0:26:26.390 --> 0:26:29.540
<v Speaker 1>they've got, the Hornets have a superstar, but they also

0:26:29.580 --> 0:26:32.920
<v Speaker 1>have players like Tom Hennepel and Kobe White and Nas Reed,

0:26:33.220 --> 0:26:35.740
<v Speaker 1>who you can say, hey, get us a bucket, because

0:26:35.780 --> 0:26:38.500
<v Speaker 1>we know the defense is focused on Brandon right now,

0:26:38.780 --> 0:26:41.639
<v Speaker 1>which means you've got a one-on-one matchup against a defender

0:26:41.680 --> 0:26:42.460
<v Speaker 1>we'd like to attack.

0:26:43.210 --> 0:26:47.340
<v Speaker 5>Yep, well said. No doubt about it. So coming up next,

0:26:47.619 --> 0:26:49.200
<v Speaker 5>it's on the road. I think I called it a

0:26:49.200 --> 0:26:51.680
<v Speaker 5>home game earlier. We already played Washington at home, Bonesy.

0:26:52.480 --> 0:26:54.980
<v Speaker 2>On the road. Way back on Monday. Against Washington.

0:26:55.330 --> 0:26:57.850
<v Speaker 5>And then it's back home again for the big Halloween

0:26:57.890 --> 0:27:00.890
<v Speaker 5>game against LeBron and the Sixers.

0:27:00.910 --> 0:27:04.830
<v Speaker 3>I did want to— How about that? Philadelphia, Detroit, Boston, Cleveland,

0:27:04.850 --> 0:27:07.149
<v Speaker 3>the next home games. That's a heck of a— A

0:27:07.190 --> 0:27:10.020
<v Speaker 3>good grouping there. A tough grouping, though. Yeah, they really

0:27:10.040 --> 0:27:12.740
<v Speaker 3>need Friday night. If only back there was a guy

0:27:12.800 --> 0:27:15.980
<v Speaker 3>that could give us the number for tickets for those games.

0:27:16.020 --> 0:27:16.500
<v Speaker 1>Sammy!

0:27:16.600 --> 0:27:19.780
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's interesting we have you here during this time, Sammy.

0:27:21.359 --> 0:27:24.399
<v Speaker 1>I am here to serve. Yes, we don't want to

0:27:24.440 --> 0:27:27.820
<v Speaker 1>squander this opportunity because the Hornets are playing good ball,

0:27:28.280 --> 0:27:30.699
<v Speaker 1>and we've got some really entertaining games coming up. Obviously,

0:27:30.720 --> 0:27:33.740
<v Speaker 1>Friday is a big one. Emirates NBA Cup opener for

0:27:33.800 --> 0:27:37.010
<v Speaker 1>Charlotte at Washington. Hopefully everyone will tune in. It'll be

0:27:37.090 --> 0:27:40.770
<v Speaker 1>on WSOC Channel 9, our beloved ABC affiliate back home

0:27:40.790 --> 0:27:44.370
<v Speaker 1>in the Queen City. And then right back to work

0:27:44.570 --> 0:27:49.399
<v Speaker 1>on Saturday for a Halloween special against LeBron James, Jalen Brown,

0:27:49.420 --> 0:27:56.080
<v Speaker 1>Joel Embiid, Tyrese Maxey. and B.J. Edgecombe and the Philadelphia 76ers.

0:27:56.420 --> 0:27:58.410
<v Speaker 1>It'll be night two of a back-to-back, but I believe

0:27:58.510 --> 0:28:01.450
<v Speaker 1>it's part of a back-to-back as well for Philadelphia. So

0:28:02.450 --> 0:28:05.609
<v Speaker 1>an opportunity there. And, you know, Halloween at the Hive,

0:28:05.690 --> 0:28:09.450
<v Speaker 1>what could be better? So if you can resist trick-or-treating,

0:28:09.490 --> 0:28:12.230
<v Speaker 1>just leave the bowl outside and come on out, dress

0:28:12.310 --> 0:28:14.280
<v Speaker 1>up if you'd like, and join us for some Halloween

0:28:14.300 --> 0:28:16.340
<v Speaker 1>hoops and tickets are available at Hornets.com.

0:28:16.810 --> 0:28:19.949
<v Speaker 2>I like it. Let's take LeBron's candy on Saturday night, y'all.

0:28:19.970 --> 0:28:20.830
<v Speaker 2>By the way.

0:28:20.890 --> 0:28:26.649
<v Speaker 5>At his age, it's probably Werther's. I need to know, though, Sam.

0:28:26.750 --> 0:28:29.770
<v Speaker 5>I mentioned you in the intro. You were the one

0:28:29.850 --> 0:28:32.070
<v Speaker 5>telling us, well, you're going to beat the Rams, y'all.

0:28:32.130 --> 0:28:32.760
<v Speaker 2>Settle down.

0:28:32.780 --> 0:28:35.840
<v Speaker 5>A lot of people don't believe they can beat the

0:28:35.880 --> 0:28:39.410
<v Speaker 5>Packers after Sunday's game. Are you in the believer camp tonight, too?

0:28:41.010 --> 0:28:44.210
<v Speaker 1>I am 100% in the believer camp. Look, everyone has

0:28:44.270 --> 0:28:48.190
<v Speaker 1>an off night, okay? Bryce is having a brilliant season.

0:28:48.290 --> 0:28:52.600
<v Speaker 1>He's having a brilliant season right now. He's becoming a

0:28:52.620 --> 0:28:56.920
<v Speaker 1>superstar in his own right. I think defensively, we've seen

0:28:56.940 --> 0:29:00.090
<v Speaker 1>the Panthers, unfortunately, have a couple of off nights. or

0:29:00.170 --> 0:29:02.310
<v Speaker 1>off days, I should say over the course of the season,

0:29:02.570 --> 0:29:04.870
<v Speaker 1>they tend not to have two in a row. So

0:29:05.070 --> 0:29:07.190
<v Speaker 1>I think the Packers are a good team, but I

0:29:07.230 --> 0:29:09.350
<v Speaker 1>think the Panthers are a really good team as well.

0:29:09.370 --> 0:29:10.490
<v Speaker 1>And I think they're going to respond.

0:29:10.650 --> 0:29:13.590
<v Speaker 2>I love it. Sammy, baby, the sunshine. He thinks he's

0:29:13.630 --> 0:29:14.930
<v Speaker 2>shining on the cats tonight.

0:29:17.130 --> 0:29:17.490
<v Speaker 1>Sammy.

0:29:17.530 --> 0:29:20.370
<v Speaker 2>Great job, brother. Keep up the good work calling the games.

0:29:20.430 --> 0:29:21.090
<v Speaker 2>Appreciate you.

0:29:21.990 --> 0:29:24.070
<v Speaker 1>Appreciate you guys as well. And look for what are

0:29:24.090 --> 0:29:26.209
<v Speaker 1>you dressing up as Saturday at the hive? I want

0:29:26.230 --> 0:29:27.280
<v Speaker 1>to know what's the costume.

0:29:28.890 --> 0:29:29.690
<v Speaker 2>Are you dressing up, Boat?

0:29:29.930 --> 0:29:30.110
<v Speaker 3>Huh?

0:29:30.390 --> 0:29:33.219
<v Speaker 2>Are you dressing up? I don't have a costume. Are

0:29:33.260 --> 0:29:33.810
<v Speaker 2>you dressing up, Sam?

0:29:33.820 --> 0:29:35.720
<v Speaker 7>Oh, yeah, you do, but you got that pirate costume.

0:29:36.000 --> 0:29:38.630
<v Speaker 2>Oh, yeah, yeah. That's not out of the box yet

0:29:38.750 --> 0:29:40.700
<v Speaker 2>because of the Panthers. Are you dressing up, Sam, to

0:29:40.740 --> 0:29:41.220
<v Speaker 2>call the game?

0:29:42.700 --> 0:29:44.600
<v Speaker 1>I got to know a few. I can't go solo here.

0:29:44.620 --> 0:29:46.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, I dress up when I go.

0:29:46.120 --> 0:29:47.110
<v Speaker 2>You and EC.

0:29:47.160 --> 0:29:48.430
<v Speaker 1>Which I'm going to get to miss out on.

0:29:48.530 --> 0:29:51.650
<v Speaker 5>Y'all need a deal, a play-by-play handshake on it that

0:29:51.670 --> 0:29:53.290
<v Speaker 5>you will both dress up Saturday night.

0:29:53.310 --> 0:29:54.469
<v Speaker 2>That's what we need.

0:29:54.850 --> 0:29:57.130
<v Speaker 1>I love EC and Dell, but I'm a little nervous.

0:29:57.210 --> 0:29:58.970
<v Speaker 1>They might say, hey, Sam, we're dressing up, and I

0:29:59.010 --> 0:30:02.380
<v Speaker 1>could show up, you know, dress up, and they're like–

0:30:02.590 --> 0:30:05.170
<v Speaker 1>What's wrong with the radio guy here? I don't know.

0:30:05.190 --> 0:30:07.810
<v Speaker 3>You should dress up as Lenny and Squiggy from Laverne

0:30:07.870 --> 0:30:09.750
<v Speaker 3>and Troy. You and EC together? Oh, that'd be good.

0:30:09.790 --> 0:30:12.410
<v Speaker 3>That'd be good. I could see Sam being a Squiggy.

0:30:14.910 --> 0:30:18.100
<v Speaker 3>He was a small one, right? I actually don't remember.

0:30:18.120 --> 0:30:20.300
<v Speaker 3>Lenny was the tall one. Yeah, you'd be a Squiggy,

0:30:20.360 --> 0:30:20.960
<v Speaker 3>I feel like.

0:30:21.460 --> 0:30:21.780
<v Speaker 1>I do.

0:30:21.980 --> 0:30:25.100
<v Speaker 2>I feel like. All right. Anyway, what are we doing?

0:30:25.300 --> 0:30:27.160
<v Speaker 2>All right, Sam. Appreciate you, brother. Be good.

0:30:28.070 --> 0:30:29.130
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, guys. Have a good one.

0:30:29.510 --> 0:30:32.310
<v Speaker 5>All right, there you go. That is Sam Farber, voice

0:30:32.330 --> 0:30:37.820
<v Speaker 5>of the Hornets. People are now mad at him, Bo. Oh, really?

0:30:37.840 --> 0:30:40.460
<v Speaker 5>Don't get mad at Squiggy Farber. Yeah, please do not.

0:30:41.740 --> 0:30:42.540
<v Speaker 5>People keep bringing up.

0:30:44.560 --> 0:30:48.620
<v Speaker 5>See on James, like why is see on James not benched? He's,

0:30:48.660 --> 0:30:50.730
<v Speaker 5>you know, because of the way he's shooting, there's a

0:30:50.770 --> 0:30:54.590
<v Speaker 5>difference between missing shots and like an effort. And again,

0:30:54.650 --> 0:30:56.470
<v Speaker 5>it's hard. And I will say this, this is the one,

0:30:56.840 --> 0:30:58.760
<v Speaker 5>one point that a MIT made and a couple other

0:30:58.800 --> 0:31:02.960
<v Speaker 5>texters made that's fair. We don't know exactly what he

0:31:03.020 --> 0:31:06.580
<v Speaker 5>did that was below the standard. So we're all trying

0:31:06.600 --> 0:31:08.540
<v Speaker 5>to guess. We're looking at the video clips and all

0:31:08.580 --> 0:31:09.220
<v Speaker 5>this sort of thing.

0:31:09.540 --> 0:31:10.240
<v Speaker 2>But we don't know.

0:31:10.800 --> 0:31:12.790
<v Speaker 5>What I am defending Charles Lee for is if a

0:31:12.850 --> 0:31:15.210
<v Speaker 5>coach feels like someone is not meeting the standard and

0:31:15.250 --> 0:31:17.330
<v Speaker 5>wants to send a message to him and the entire team,

0:31:17.710 --> 0:31:20.070
<v Speaker 5>I'm here for it. That's called coaching. So that's my

0:31:20.110 --> 0:31:24.570
<v Speaker 5>whole point today. But there's a difference bone between what

0:31:24.610 --> 0:31:28.350
<v Speaker 5>it feels like Nas Reed got benched for Whether it's effort, attitude,

0:31:28.390 --> 0:31:31.390
<v Speaker 5>I don't know. But I just can't imagine Charles Lee

0:31:31.430 --> 0:31:34.760
<v Speaker 5>would bench someone for a full half because, oh, he's

0:31:34.800 --> 0:31:36.200
<v Speaker 5>just not making shots.

0:31:36.600 --> 0:31:39.460
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, performance and standard are two completely different things.

0:31:39.540 --> 0:31:41.480
<v Speaker 5>So that's what I'm trying to say. Now, do I

0:31:41.540 --> 0:31:43.180
<v Speaker 5>want Sion to play less minutes?

0:31:43.220 --> 0:31:43.840
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I do.

0:31:43.980 --> 0:31:45.880
<v Speaker 5>I want Conn Knipple to come back and be the

0:31:45.920 --> 0:31:48.440
<v Speaker 5>starting shooting guard. I want Kobe White to come back

0:31:48.830 --> 0:31:52.090
<v Speaker 5>so actually Christian Anderson doesn't have to play the minutes too, Bone.

0:31:52.650 --> 0:31:54.730
<v Speaker 2>And we can have Dennis Schroeder as the back. I

0:31:54.750 --> 0:31:55.830
<v Speaker 2>want all those things.

0:31:56.490 --> 0:31:59.290
<v Speaker 3>Mac, I have an update on Willie P's love of moons.

0:31:59.890 --> 0:32:03.110
<v Speaker 3>That was a theme last hour in our group chat

0:32:03.130 --> 0:32:06.360
<v Speaker 3>that you're involved in. He could not believe in our school,

0:32:06.520 --> 0:32:09.300
<v Speaker 3>our upbringing. We did not go through the moon phases

0:32:09.320 --> 0:32:12.380
<v Speaker 3>in school. He then says Finney got it wrong on

0:32:12.420 --> 0:32:14.380
<v Speaker 3>the air. And this is the last text I see

0:32:14.440 --> 0:32:17.840
<v Speaker 3>quote from Willie P in a text. A waning crescent

0:32:18.320 --> 0:32:21.010
<v Speaker 3>is right at the end before the new moon. A

0:32:21.070 --> 0:32:24.550
<v Speaker 3>waning gibbous is what we had last night. I know,

0:32:24.590 --> 0:32:26.160
<v Speaker 3>moon man. Don't play me.

0:32:27.950 --> 0:32:30.510
<v Speaker 2>You do know, sir. Who are you trying to fool?

0:32:31.180 --> 0:32:34.230
<v Speaker 5>Someone else asked us that. Do you not remember that

0:32:34.250 --> 0:32:37.470
<v Speaker 5>from school? We didn't have moon glass. Now, you're saying

0:32:37.510 --> 0:32:40.320
<v Speaker 5>you never learned it. What I am saying is, and

0:32:40.380 --> 0:32:44.280
<v Speaker 5>I thought most adults were like me, I have not

0:32:44.380 --> 0:32:47.910
<v Speaker 5>retained much of what I learned in school. And don't

0:32:47.950 --> 0:32:50.070
<v Speaker 5>let the kids hear this. If the kids are listening,

0:32:50.190 --> 0:32:52.890
<v Speaker 5>earmuff the kids right now. Because you are taught a

0:32:52.950 --> 0:32:55.270
<v Speaker 5>lot in school that you don't need to know to

0:32:55.510 --> 0:32:59.100
<v Speaker 5>actually be successful in your life. A bunch of crap.

0:32:59.340 --> 0:33:01.820
<v Speaker 5>But anyway, I'm not good at remembering that stuff.

0:33:01.840 --> 0:33:05.920
<v Speaker 3>We had the Jay Hardell moon incident where he mooned people,

0:33:06.300 --> 0:33:08.300
<v Speaker 3>but we didn't have moon class. That was a whole

0:33:08.320 --> 0:33:10.830
<v Speaker 3>different separate thing there. There was a kid in school.

0:33:10.920 --> 0:33:12.650
<v Speaker 2>Oh, yeah. Moon the opposing fans.

0:33:12.830 --> 0:33:16.450
<v Speaker 5>Yeah. And nobody said no teacher said, let me take

0:33:16.490 --> 0:33:18.070
<v Speaker 5>a moment here to point out that was a waning

0:33:18.590 --> 0:33:19.470
<v Speaker 5>gibbous right there.

0:33:19.540 --> 0:33:20.020
<v Speaker 2>That move.

0:33:21.360 --> 0:33:25.180
<v Speaker 3>No, no one want to see that crescent. When we

0:33:25.540 --> 0:33:28.610
<v Speaker 3>we have really gone off the rails here. We're having

0:33:28.630 --> 0:33:30.930
<v Speaker 3>a good time, though, when we come back here on

0:33:30.970 --> 0:33:34.230
<v Speaker 3>the Mac and Bone radio show. Obviously, I'm ready to

0:33:34.270 --> 0:33:37.440
<v Speaker 3>go to break here. Who is pantering up? Is anyone

0:33:37.480 --> 0:33:40.980
<v Speaker 3>expecting a bounce back tonight from the team? Our picks

0:33:41.080 --> 0:33:44.460
<v Speaker 3>are next. What will we do? What will Finney do?

0:33:44.940 --> 0:33:46.850
<v Speaker 3>Stay tuned. Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ.

0:34:15.590 --> 0:34:19.730
<v Speaker 5>Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ, Mack and Bone with you.

0:34:19.739 --> 0:34:20.899
<v Speaker 2>It's been a lively one, man.

0:34:20.920 --> 0:34:24.180
<v Speaker 5>This Nas Reed benching and Charles Lee just basically telling

0:34:24.219 --> 0:34:25.480
<v Speaker 5>Shannon Spake, yeah, I did it.

0:34:26.120 --> 0:34:27.700
<v Speaker 2>He didn't meet the standards, so I did it.

0:34:27.719 --> 0:34:29.950
<v Speaker 5>He sat out the whole half, and the Hornets went

0:34:29.969 --> 0:34:33.609
<v Speaker 5>from a seven-point lead to losing the game last night

0:34:34.010 --> 0:34:37.690
<v Speaker 5>in Detroit by eight, 97-89. They continue. And this is

0:34:37.710 --> 0:34:39.550
<v Speaker 5>the reason why people are mad. They continue to struggle

0:34:39.570 --> 0:34:41.980
<v Speaker 5>to score points. They only scored 38 in the second half.

0:34:42.460 --> 0:34:45.120
<v Speaker 5>It's Brandon Miller or bust a lot. And I can't

0:34:45.160 --> 0:34:47.819
<v Speaker 5>stress enough that I am begging the sports gods to

0:34:47.840 --> 0:34:50.989
<v Speaker 5>give us Khan and Kobe back. But it doesn't sound

0:34:51.030 --> 0:34:52.670
<v Speaker 5>like we don't still have a timetable.

0:34:52.730 --> 0:34:54.489
<v Speaker 2>Matt, would you like a celebrity text that came in

0:34:54.530 --> 0:34:54.989
<v Speaker 2>during the break?

0:34:55.010 --> 0:34:55.190
<v Speaker 3>Oh, yeah.

0:34:55.210 --> 0:34:55.649
<v Speaker 2>What we got?

0:34:55.810 --> 0:34:59.509
<v Speaker 3>Just curious. What exactly is the standard? Sincerely, Grayson Allen.

0:35:01.920 --> 0:35:02.320
<v Speaker 2>You see.

0:35:02.340 --> 0:35:05.060
<v Speaker 3>Hey, he's been fine. He's not a problem. He wasn't

0:35:05.080 --> 0:35:07.819
<v Speaker 3>the first guy to bench, all right? He's being good

0:35:07.860 --> 0:35:08.210
<v Speaker 3>out there so far.

0:35:08.239 --> 0:35:09.279
<v Speaker 2>That is true. That is true. Did you.

0:35:09.300 --> 0:35:09.380
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:35:09.520 --> 0:35:12.590
<v Speaker 2>You see, Grayson made... Dare I say, good leadership from Grayson.

0:35:12.950 --> 0:35:15.270
<v Speaker 2>Grayson made Shaqton a fool last night. Did you see it?

0:35:15.270 --> 0:35:18.090
<v Speaker 5>Yes, I did. I, by the way, I was watching

0:35:18.110 --> 0:35:20.780
<v Speaker 5>cause I was away. So when I watched Hornets nets,

0:35:21.380 --> 0:35:22.980
<v Speaker 5>I was doing the thing where I was fast forwarding

0:35:23.020 --> 0:35:24.380
<v Speaker 5>through like the downtime and stuff.

0:35:24.760 --> 0:35:27.100
<v Speaker 2>Somehow I missed what he did against the nets. We

0:35:27.120 --> 0:35:28.530
<v Speaker 2>didn't even talk about the inbounds.

0:35:28.570 --> 0:35:28.890
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:35:29.030 --> 0:35:31.790
<v Speaker 5>He went and somebody, I forget who it was through

0:35:31.810 --> 0:35:34.930
<v Speaker 5>the inbounds pass to him. He grabbed it, stepped out

0:35:34.950 --> 0:35:36.859
<v Speaker 5>of bounds, and tried to throw the inbounds pass into

0:35:36.890 --> 0:35:40.700
<v Speaker 5>somebody else. Of course that's not legal. We had to

0:35:40.739 --> 0:35:43.080
<v Speaker 5>give possession up, but Shaq got on him. The boys

0:35:43.120 --> 0:35:45.720
<v Speaker 5>got on him last night, man. It's a bad moment.

0:35:45.739 --> 0:35:46.799
<v Speaker 2>That's not bench-worthy, though.

0:35:46.820 --> 0:35:49.259
<v Speaker 5>That's a knucklehead moment, but I believe that might not

0:35:49.300 --> 0:35:52.810
<v Speaker 5>be the standard bone of smart basketball, but I don't

0:35:52.850 --> 0:35:56.089
<v Speaker 5>believe that's going to be bench-worthy. All right, let's talk Panthers, though,

0:35:56.190 --> 0:35:58.069
<v Speaker 5>and this is the segment. All right, because coming up,

0:35:58.550 --> 0:36:01.770
<v Speaker 5>we're pretty full here. in the last hour of the show.

0:36:01.810 --> 0:36:04.259
<v Speaker 5>So coming up at nine o'clock, it's our usual, even

0:36:04.280 --> 0:36:06.200
<v Speaker 5>though it's game day, it's a Thursday, right? So our

0:36:06.260 --> 0:36:10.750
<v Speaker 5>usual Thursday conversation with Jones Angel. We can talk about

0:36:10.770 --> 0:36:14.270
<v Speaker 5>the heels and the controversial loss. I'm still not sure

0:36:14.290 --> 0:36:18.340
<v Speaker 5>that dude scored. to Syracuse and moving forward with Miami,

0:36:18.390 --> 0:36:21.400
<v Speaker 5>number one this week. Talk about the Charlotte game for

0:36:21.420 --> 0:36:24.060
<v Speaker 5>the basketball side. And then Ryan Wood, who covers the

0:36:24.100 --> 0:36:27.640
<v Speaker 5>Packers in Green Bay, going to join us to kind

0:36:27.680 --> 0:36:32.109
<v Speaker 5>of know your enemy type thing, Bone, coming up at 925.

0:36:32.110 --> 0:36:36.070
<v Speaker 5>And Husky Pants has agreed, Bone, to be the pep talker.

0:36:36.110 --> 0:36:38.310
<v Speaker 5>We realized today we were not prepared. We were kind

0:36:38.330 --> 0:36:40.890
<v Speaker 5>of like the coaching staff on Sunday. We were not

0:36:40.950 --> 0:36:44.609
<v Speaker 5>prepared bone for a Thursday pep talker. So, uh, we've

0:36:44.640 --> 0:36:46.900
<v Speaker 5>gotten Husky pants to do it, but it comes with

0:36:46.940 --> 0:36:49.980
<v Speaker 5>a warning. He was at the dentist this morning and said,

0:36:50.020 --> 0:36:52.480
<v Speaker 5>he is talking with a lisp. I said, let's do

0:36:52.520 --> 0:36:55.820
<v Speaker 5>it anyway, baby. Let's power through.

0:36:56.080 --> 0:36:58.120
<v Speaker 2>We have thousands of listeners, believe it or not. This

0:36:58.180 --> 0:37:02.130
<v Speaker 2>is what we came up with. Lisp happens. Lisp happens.

0:37:02.230 --> 0:37:04.410
<v Speaker 3>A guy that might be drugged up and can't talk

0:37:04.469 --> 0:37:07.810
<v Speaker 3>is doing our pep talk. And that's above Sirloin the

0:37:07.830 --> 0:37:10.669
<v Speaker 3>Beef who got benched. What's he feeling today? Sirloin's doing

0:37:10.710 --> 0:37:11.750
<v Speaker 3>a colonoscopy.

0:37:11.790 --> 0:37:13.209
<v Speaker 2>Sirloin right now is our Nas Reed.

0:37:13.350 --> 0:37:16.359
<v Speaker 5>He's getting a colonoscopy today, Sirloin. So he's singing.

0:37:16.380 --> 0:37:19.320
<v Speaker 2>Oh, is he really? Moon river. That's what he's singing

0:37:19.360 --> 0:37:20.020
<v Speaker 2>right now. Is he really?

0:37:20.120 --> 0:37:20.380
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:37:20.460 --> 0:37:22.020
<v Speaker 2>So these were the options that were put in front

0:37:22.060 --> 0:37:22.230
<v Speaker 2>of us.

0:37:22.400 --> 0:37:26.469
<v Speaker 7>Well, for the record, Mac volunteered me and bone rejected

0:37:26.489 --> 0:37:27.330
<v Speaker 7>me quicker than a woman.

0:37:27.350 --> 0:37:29.330
<v Speaker 2>That was so funny. I said, what about Panther?

0:37:29.350 --> 0:37:33.370
<v Speaker 3>No, no. By the way, Moon River is not part

0:37:33.430 --> 0:37:34.650
<v Speaker 3>of the Willie P.

0:37:34.710 --> 0:37:36.910
<v Speaker 2>Educational experience. No, it is not. It is not.

0:37:36.930 --> 0:37:39.910
<v Speaker 5>All right, anyway, let's have the conversation. Y'all can feel

0:37:39.950 --> 0:37:42.509
<v Speaker 5>free to chime in, too. We're talking about how we're

0:37:42.530 --> 0:37:45.820
<v Speaker 5>seeing all these graphics. The national media all seem to

0:37:45.860 --> 0:37:49.220
<v Speaker 5>be flocking to the Packers, who I need to point out, Bone,

0:37:49.500 --> 0:37:51.940
<v Speaker 5>are far from perfect. Four and three last place in

0:37:51.980 --> 0:37:55.560
<v Speaker 5>their division overall. all kinds of issues running the football bony.

0:37:57.010 --> 0:38:01.770
<v Speaker 5>They have been far from great themselves, but they need

0:38:01.790 --> 0:38:04.690
<v Speaker 5>this one too. They're, they're sitting there four and three

0:38:04.730 --> 0:38:06.990
<v Speaker 5>in their division, four and three in our division bone

0:38:07.430 --> 0:38:10.840
<v Speaker 5>would be cause for celebration, a parade. Four and three

0:38:10.880 --> 0:38:13.879
<v Speaker 5>in the north has you in last place and in

0:38:14.180 --> 0:38:17.219
<v Speaker 5>desperation mode. So that's what we're up against. But our

0:38:17.280 --> 0:38:21.299
<v Speaker 5>boys have this track record of responding when doubted, when

0:38:21.340 --> 0:38:22.130
<v Speaker 5>we take an L.

0:38:23.020 --> 0:38:26.930
<v Speaker 2>What do you think, Bone? Is this a Panther up occasion?

0:38:28.170 --> 0:38:31.210
<v Speaker 3>This is tough because I think it's going to be close,

0:38:31.870 --> 0:38:36.469
<v Speaker 3>but my offensive line fears have me not taking the

0:38:36.510 --> 0:38:37.290
<v Speaker 3>Panthers tonight.

0:38:38.210 --> 0:38:39.630
<v Speaker 2>I am taking Green Bay.

0:38:39.630 --> 0:38:45.620
<v Speaker 3>28 to 20 over the Panthers.

0:38:46.500 --> 0:38:49.080
<v Speaker 5>Sorry to do it, but I'm an honest journalist. You

0:38:49.120 --> 0:38:52.260
<v Speaker 5>couldn't go there. I have Green Bay winning tonight at home.

0:38:52.300 --> 0:38:55.250
<v Speaker 5>When you say O-line concerns, you think their pass rush

0:38:55.290 --> 0:38:59.049
<v Speaker 5>gets after Bryce. You think we can't run it. We

0:38:59.070 --> 0:39:01.109
<v Speaker 5>think They get after Bryce and he turns it over.

0:39:01.150 --> 0:39:01.969
<v Speaker 2>Like, what do you think?

0:39:01.989 --> 0:39:04.950
<v Speaker 3>I think that the pass rush bothers Bryce to the

0:39:05.010 --> 0:39:08.049
<v Speaker 3>point where they can't put up enough points to compete

0:39:08.090 --> 0:39:10.739
<v Speaker 3>with the Packers offense, who I think will against the

0:39:10.760 --> 0:39:11.660
<v Speaker 3>Panthers defense tonight.

0:39:11.900 --> 0:39:14.080
<v Speaker 2>And that matchup of, I know Golden.

0:39:15.060 --> 0:39:18.110
<v Speaker 3>is questionable, but Watson is going to be a major

0:39:18.140 --> 0:39:19.319
<v Speaker 3>problem for this defense.

0:39:19.450 --> 0:39:20.089
<v Speaker 2>I worry about that.

0:39:20.370 --> 0:39:22.850
<v Speaker 3>The wide receivers didn't have to do anything against us

0:39:22.910 --> 0:39:25.550
<v Speaker 3>on Sunday, but tonight, Watson, he could eat tonight.

0:39:25.790 --> 0:39:26.450
<v Speaker 2>I have a feeling.

0:39:26.469 --> 0:39:28.509
<v Speaker 3>I don't take pride in this selection, by the way,

0:39:28.550 --> 0:39:29.950
<v Speaker 3>but I got to be honest with my pick here.

0:39:29.980 --> 0:39:32.180
<v Speaker 3>You're not happy with yourself, but you are being real.

0:39:32.280 --> 0:39:32.969
<v Speaker 3>You're being true.

0:39:33.030 --> 0:39:34.969
<v Speaker 2>And I respect it, Boney. I will say this.

0:39:35.510 --> 0:39:37.989
<v Speaker 5>I would expect their quarterback to throw it more than

0:39:37.989 --> 0:39:40.270
<v Speaker 5>11 times, and I would also expect him not to

0:39:40.310 --> 0:39:43.509
<v Speaker 5>have a Michael Jackson glove on. Those two things I

0:39:43.560 --> 0:39:46.000
<v Speaker 5>think will be true. Actually, if Jordan Love can throw it, well,

0:39:46.020 --> 0:39:48.040
<v Speaker 5>I'll sign that deal right now. If Jordan Love wants

0:39:48.060 --> 0:39:50.140
<v Speaker 5>to throw it 11 times tonight, let's sign the contract

0:39:50.460 --> 0:39:52.299
<v Speaker 5>right now. Put the game in the hands of that

0:39:52.360 --> 0:39:55.620
<v Speaker 5>crappy running game. Okay, I don't blame you.

0:39:55.800 --> 0:39:56.400
<v Speaker 2>I don't blame you.

0:39:56.440 --> 0:39:59.340
<v Speaker 5>Although an eight-point loss, although I feel like we've lost

0:39:59.940 --> 0:40:01.180
<v Speaker 5>to them by eight a lot. I was looking at

0:40:01.200 --> 0:40:07.940
<v Speaker 5>good scores the other day. But eight-point loss is, that's

0:40:08.020 --> 0:40:09.500
<v Speaker 5>more points than I would think.

0:40:10.080 --> 0:40:13.890
<v Speaker 2>Fit daddy. What do you say? Panther Fetty, are you,

0:40:14.320 --> 0:40:16.279
<v Speaker 2>as if there's any doubt, Panthering up?

0:40:18.090 --> 0:40:22.029
<v Speaker 6>Hell yeah, I'm Panthering up, Mac. This is what Carolina does, man.

0:40:22.070 --> 0:40:25.550
<v Speaker 7>Just when you want to quit on them, quit believing

0:40:25.610 --> 0:40:28.910
<v Speaker 7>in them, like the national media and half our fan

0:40:28.950 --> 0:40:31.730
<v Speaker 7>base is already done after what happened on Monday, they'll

0:40:31.750 --> 0:40:34.549
<v Speaker 7>remind you why it's okay to believe in what Dave

0:40:34.590 --> 0:40:37.970
<v Speaker 7>Canales and what Bryce Young, what they are doing. Look,

0:40:38.070 --> 0:40:42.430
<v Speaker 7>it's a short week. On the road, all odds would

0:40:42.450 --> 0:40:46.310
<v Speaker 7>tell you to pick Green Bay. I think Bryce Young responds,

0:40:46.350 --> 0:40:48.530
<v Speaker 7>so I think Bryce Young will not have the turnovers

0:40:48.550 --> 0:40:51.950
<v Speaker 7>that he had on Sunday. Hopefully his offensive line blocks

0:40:51.969 --> 0:40:54.090
<v Speaker 7>a lot better. If not, Rasheed Walker might get cut,

0:40:54.760 --> 0:40:56.760
<v Speaker 7>and I would not necessarily be against that.

0:40:57.219 --> 0:40:58.900
<v Speaker 6>The defense is going to take what happened.

0:40:58.680 --> 0:41:02.200
<v Speaker 7>To them Sunday personal, worried about those corners and what's

0:41:02.219 --> 0:41:04.960
<v Speaker 7>going to happen to them in the passing game, but

0:41:05.020 --> 0:41:06.359
<v Speaker 7>I think it's going to be a close game late.

0:41:07.390 --> 0:41:09.830
<v Speaker 7>And I think that's when Bryce Young is usually at

0:41:09.890 --> 0:41:12.549
<v Speaker 7>his best. He'll be at his best tonight. I think

0:41:12.590 --> 0:41:15.200
<v Speaker 7>Carolina wins this one on the road.

0:41:15.200 --> 0:41:15.620
<v Speaker 2>27, 23.

0:41:15.620 --> 0:41:19.819
<v Speaker 7>He's our short week expert back.

0:41:20.620 --> 0:41:24.920
<v Speaker 2>Him and Bryce both. That's the thing. You're going to

0:41:24.940 --> 0:41:27.859
<v Speaker 2>doubt Bryce on a short week. Y'all seriously. Y'all going

0:41:27.880 --> 0:41:29.640
<v Speaker 2>to do that. I'm sorry, Bryce. I'm sorry.

0:41:30.350 --> 0:41:34.009
<v Speaker 5>I really, here's the problem. I believe a lot of

0:41:34.090 --> 0:41:37.009
<v Speaker 5>what you're saying, man. Like I just believe they are

0:41:37.030 --> 0:41:39.910
<v Speaker 5>going to respond. They are going to play with an edge,

0:41:40.270 --> 0:41:44.370
<v Speaker 5>play angry tonight. I definitely though get bones concerns about

0:41:44.410 --> 0:41:47.450
<v Speaker 5>the O-line, no doubt about it. And do we have

0:41:47.489 --> 0:41:50.589
<v Speaker 5>pass rush without Phillips in this game? You know, we're

0:41:50.610 --> 0:41:52.420
<v Speaker 5>going to have to blitz, but Jordan Love's got a

0:41:52.420 --> 0:41:55.340
<v Speaker 5>95 rating with seven tutties against a blitz this year.

0:41:56.680 --> 0:41:57.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm so torn.

0:41:57.520 --> 0:41:59.839
<v Speaker 5>I also don't want to mess this game up tonight either.

0:42:00.340 --> 0:42:05.560
<v Speaker 2>And I feel like I'm a problem. Don't watch. Now

0:42:05.640 --> 0:42:08.530
<v Speaker 2>I can't even watch the games. I curse with just

0:42:08.570 --> 0:42:09.370
<v Speaker 2>my eyeballs.

0:42:09.810 --> 0:42:13.250
<v Speaker 5>Tough crowd. I'm going to say they bounce back. Bryce

0:42:13.290 --> 0:42:14.430
<v Speaker 5>plays a lot better.

0:42:15.810 --> 0:42:17.609
<v Speaker 2>I really think they're going to win. Do it! I'm

0:42:17.630 --> 0:42:19.710
<v Speaker 2>going to say, you want me to do it? You

0:42:19.730 --> 0:42:20.569
<v Speaker 2>can't handle the truth.

0:42:20.590 --> 0:42:21.980
<v Speaker 6>Say it.

0:42:22.020 --> 0:42:23.779
<v Speaker 2>You want me on that wall? Say it, say it,

0:42:23.820 --> 0:42:25.240
<v Speaker 2>say it, say it, say it, say.

0:42:25.239 --> 0:42:25.739
<v Speaker 1>It, say it.

0:42:25.760 --> 0:42:26.920
<v Speaker 2>You need me on that wall?

0:42:26.940 --> 0:42:28.500
<v Speaker 5>Or you walk up to the wall and then you

0:42:28.520 --> 0:42:34.750
<v Speaker 5>pick the backers. Your old okey-doke move. Packers 27-24. Go

0:42:37.570 --> 0:42:41.569
<v Speaker 5>scratch yourself. I do believe Finney this year. I hate

0:42:41.590 --> 0:42:42.879
<v Speaker 5>doing that. What was the game, Finney.

0:42:42.890 --> 0:42:44.589
<v Speaker 3>This year where Mack and I both picked the opponent

0:42:44.610 --> 0:42:46.400
<v Speaker 3>and you picked Detroit?

0:42:46.480 --> 0:42:48.740
<v Speaker 2>Was that it? I can't remember what it was. Yeah.

0:42:48.820 --> 0:42:51.620
<v Speaker 2>Where Finney was right. It worked against Detroit. Does history,

0:42:52.420 --> 0:42:54.919
<v Speaker 2>the old saying there, does history repeat itself? I really

0:42:54.940 --> 0:42:56.900
<v Speaker 2>hope so, guys. Does history repeat itself? Is this the formula?

0:42:57.080 --> 0:42:58.280
<v Speaker 2>Me and Bone go against.

0:42:58.540 --> 0:43:01.600
<v Speaker 6>Tonight's a big night. I'm watching this game with Maddie.

0:43:01.900 --> 0:43:04.060
<v Speaker 2>Oh, man. This is good. Not smoke?

0:43:04.340 --> 0:43:04.920
<v Speaker 6>Not smoke.

0:43:05.040 --> 0:43:05.239
<v Speaker 3>Nope.

0:43:05.320 --> 0:43:07.739
<v Speaker 7>There's no postgame, so I'm going to run pregame. I'm

0:43:07.760 --> 0:43:09.570
<v Speaker 7>going to do the Mac thing. I'm going to rush

0:43:09.620 --> 0:43:11.090
<v Speaker 7>my ass, well, to her house.

0:43:11.430 --> 0:43:12.890
<v Speaker 2>Oh, this could be the end of the relationship.

0:43:13.010 --> 0:43:15.750
<v Speaker 5>Once she sees Panther fitting, once she sees live sporting

0:43:15.810 --> 0:43:16.450
<v Speaker 5>event fitting.

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<v Speaker 7>She saw the other night, she saw me have to

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<v Speaker 7>watch UNC football lose to Syracuse.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, okay.

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<v Speaker 5>If she can handle that and stills around, then yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>I think this could be long-term then.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a question, Finney, an honest question.

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<v Speaker 1>What's up, Boney?

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<v Speaker 2>When's the last time you've been home?

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<v Speaker 6>I was home for a little bit last night.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like Mackie's very nomadic right now in his travel.

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<v Speaker 2>He is.

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<v Speaker 6>It was brought to my attention.

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<v Speaker 7>I had my beloved grandmother tell me Sunday morning that

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<v Speaker 7>she was disappointed in me.

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<v Speaker 2>Momo's not happy. Don't forget Momo. Wait till the girlfriend

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<v Speaker 2>says the same thing.

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<v Speaker 5>That'll happen sooner rather than later. Poor Momo's being left alone.

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<v Speaker 5>Can we send somebody over?

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<v Speaker 2>Send Flounder over there. Yeah, send Flounder over there to

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<v Speaker 2>hang out with Momo. That's a good call, Bo.

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<v Speaker 3>When we come back, Jones Angel, Tar Heel Radio Network.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll talk about the end of the Syracuse game, what's

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<v Speaker 3>coming up. against Miami and reaction from the Hoops win

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<v Speaker 3>over Charlotte as well.

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