1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: Samory Nigel Show. Hello, my name is Nigel. That is 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: Jason Hammer right over there with a very special guest 3 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: on the hotline. 4 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 2: He's an investigative reporter for the Daily Signal. 5 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 3: He's the host of the Tony Kennet Cast, and he 6 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 3: was the runner up for People Magazine's Sexiest Man and 7 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 3: Investigative Reporting. 8 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 2: Tony Kennett joins us, how were you, sir? 9 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: Runner up? You almost had it. 10 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 4: You know, when I was a young man at Shenandola 11 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 4: Elementary School, I had a teacher, Tracy McIlrath, who said, 12 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:28,479 Speaker 4: I hope someday you suffer for some of the pain 13 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 4: you put me through. And to fulfill that now, God 14 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:36,200 Speaker 4: sends me to Washington, D C. And the surrounding hellscape 15 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 4: about once a month, and that's where I am right now. 16 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 3: Okay, So we'll get into you being in the swamp 17 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 3: and what's going on there in national issues here in 18 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 3: just a moment. 19 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:48,480 Speaker 2: But let's start here in our own backyard. 20 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 3: We got a good old fashioned feud going on between 21 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 3: Governor Mike Brawn Senate Pro Temp Rod Bray. It's about 22 00:00:55,840 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 3: the redistricting argument we had the governor on yesterday. He 23 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 3: seems pretty ticked off? What do you think? 24 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 4: So I've heard some really good arguments from those who 25 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 4: are in favor of redistricting, and I have listened to 26 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 4: everyone ad nauseum who is against redistricting. I've listened for 27 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 4: a good argument. I have heard nothing. I have heard 28 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 4: tumbleweeds rolling by. Why Andre Carson gets a racially constructed 29 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 4: district in the state of Indiana. I'll say that again. 30 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 4: Why does Andre Carson get a district that is based 31 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:30,400 Speaker 4: on racial makeup in the state of Indiana? Why why 32 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 4: is that allowed? And you know the answer you get Republicans. 33 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 4: That's the answer that I get in return. It's a 34 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 4: stupid argument. Redistrict the state you morons. 35 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd looked at the governor yesterday he was in 36 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: studio with us, and I said, what if the twenty 37 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: six midterms come and go and the Republicans are a 38 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: few seats short. I mean, it all comes back to 39 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: Indiana theoretically. 40 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 4: Well, so quote a colleague of mine, Well, you know, 41 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 4: Republicans don't do anything anyway, So I got I sure, 42 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 4: hope that makes you sleep better when you know it's 43 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 4: just impeachments for the next two years. 44 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 3: Way to go, right, and the thing that I have 45 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 3: been saying, and I'm with you one hundred percent, Tony, 46 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 3: is I live in one of the two districts in 47 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 3: this state where this is kind of a big deal. 48 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 3: We have the chance, because I live in Indianapolis, to 49 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 3: fire no good lazy ass Andre Carson, and I'm certifying 50 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 3: fouts in the region. There are folks up there in 51 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 3: the northern part of the state. They get to do 52 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 3: the same to no good lion ass Frank Mervan. And 53 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 3: instead of saying, hey, let's get rid of two zeros, 54 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 3: and even if we replace them with Republican zeros, I 55 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 3: feel like it's progress here. 56 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 2: We've got everybody on their moral high horse. 57 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 4: Again. I will say, the argument that is brought up 58 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 4: in whenever I talk about this is, well, what they're 59 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 4: going to replace them with? Some milk toast Republican And 60 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,839 Speaker 4: I say, well, yeah, but again, Andre Carson is standing there. 61 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 4: You see him right like he had, He casts a shadow. 62 00:02:56,600 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 4: He does in fact have corporeal form. Even God, if 63 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 4: we have the most milk toast, mealy mouthed Republican on 64 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 4: existence currently serving the sixth Congressional that'd be Jefferson treef 65 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 4: Then isn't that better yes than the grandson of the 66 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 4: Andre Carson legacy. Dujure? Wouldn't that be even a smidge preferred? Right? 67 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 3: And you never know when there might be somebody worth 68 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 3: a damn in voting for. Like I told NIDS yesterday, 69 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 3: my son might be getting involved in this. You know, 70 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 3: eight years from now, I would like to vote for 71 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 3: Chris Hammer, but he's got no chance in blue hell 72 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 3: in Marion County the way that it's currently set. 73 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 4: Up, because it is set up as a racially apportioned district. 74 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 4: I'm not going to let go of that. Why do 75 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 4: weeds as well? You know, I just don't want things 76 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 4: to change. That's what this all boils down to. It's 77 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 4: a bunch of Republicans and whatever you want to call 78 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 4: the people who just complain for a living, who likes 79 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 4: to say that the change scares them. I don't like change, well, 80 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 4: you bedwetters. The world is changing. Cook or get out 81 00:03:59,040 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 4: of the kitchen. 82 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: And then there's the moral argument, Well, this is you know, 83 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: this isn't playing fair. This is a. 84 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 4: Oh no, no no, you don't have to play rent 85 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 4: when we're playing monopoly. See I play the goodness. 86 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: Of my heart. 87 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 4: You know what happens, you lose the game of monopoly, 88 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 4: shut up and get out of politics if you don't 89 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 4: want to win. 90 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 3: I told Rob this yesterday. Because Rob and I are 91 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 3: on opposite sides of the argument, and we're friends, we 92 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 3: get along. 93 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 2: We disagree with that. 94 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 3: There are two types of people in this world. The 95 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 3: people that want to be do gooders, the people that 96 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 3: want to win. They're the people that want to have 97 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 3: the date home by eleven. They're the people that want 98 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 3: to bang the prom queen. I happen to be category 99 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 3: number two. 100 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 4: I look. I have a lot of respects for Rob. 101 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 4: I love Rob. We're friends. I will say this. When 102 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 4: I said that I have yet to hear a single 103 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 4: coherent argument against redistricting, I was including each and every 104 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 4: one of the times he's talked about this. I have 105 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 4: yet to hear see he has promoted Evan, but he's 106 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 4: promoted by bo Bye, the DC nepotist boy in Indiana 107 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 4: over the ward lesser of two evils when it comes 108 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 4: to Morales. I love Rob, but he is flying way 109 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 4: off the roof on this. 110 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 3: One One more thing on this before we move into 111 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 3: some national big picture stuff, and we'll talk about some 112 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 3: Epstein stuff as well. 113 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 2: But let's get into Senate Pro temp Rod Bray. 114 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 3: I like to say that I didn't like this cat 115 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 3: long before it was cool Donald Trump's putting out posts 116 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 3: about this guy. He was on the wrong side of 117 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 3: the redistricting situation, and yes, that's a word I always 118 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 3: have a hard time saying, by the way, and he 119 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 3: was on the wrong side of constitutional carry up until 120 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 3: the very end when allegedly funding was about to be withheld, 121 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 3: and now I feel like he's on the wrong side 122 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 3: of this How did we get in this position Tony 123 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 3: as a state, a pretty red state outside of some 124 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 3: pockets of very blue, where we let this butt sniffer 125 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 3: be the most powerful man. 126 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 2: In the state. 127 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 4: Laziness, laziness. It's very easy to just sit here and 128 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 4: say randomly pro free market things, occasionally, pro corporate, pro 129 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 4: subsidy things. Occasionally you go to an NRA rally once 130 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 4: every four and a half years, and you call it good. 131 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 4: You've paid your dues right, and then there's really nothing 132 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 4: else required of you until you might have a teacher's 133 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 4: union rep call your office and say I'm gonna call 134 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 4: you a big stinky person on WTCHR if you don't 135 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 4: do what I say. And then all of a sudden, 136 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 4: Rod Bray gets weak at the knees, he wets to 137 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 4: bed and he says, well, I can't do it. He's saying, 138 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 4: I'm Rod Bray. He's got the name recognition of a 139 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 4: Frenchman in freaking Africa. It's ridiculous. 140 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: So Hammer and Tony, you could both answer, this is 141 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: redistricting going to happen in this state or not? What 142 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: was your feeling from the governor yesterday. 143 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 3: I think he's trying to push a little optimism. But 144 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 3: you know me, I'm a gambler. I'm a betting man. 145 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 3: Rod Bray is not gonna let this happen. It's not 146 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 3: something that interests Rod Bray. And he's got such a 147 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 3: group of ass kisses underneath of them that whatever he wants, 148 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 3: they're gonna be like, yes, boss, and then sniff. 149 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:04,679 Speaker 1: But is that you're feeling, Tony? 150 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 4: So I will say, this is a guy who has 151 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 4: now been asked, definitely not by someone in the administration 152 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 4: no less than six times, to return to Jane Lysing's 153 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 4: district and run for her seat in the state Senate. 154 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 4: I'm not doing it because it's not worth it. The 155 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 4: state Senate sucks. I don't believe that there's enough pressure 156 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 4: in the state. I don't believe there's enough people that 157 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 4: actually will come out and care about a primary to 158 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 4: get rid of these people. And again, when you have 159 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 4: no sense of pressure in the state, when it's just 160 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 4: status quo reigned supreme, because that's playing fair, nothing's going 161 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 4: to change. 162 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 3: Let's shift gears a little bit. What the hell are 163 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 3: you doing in DC? Why are you in the swamp? 164 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 4: I'm suffering, gentlemen. And the reason I'm suffering is because 165 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 4: the Dow Prize is this evening. It's the alternative to 166 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 4: the Pulitzers. You actually have to be able to write 167 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 4: in complete sentences to win this award. So one of 168 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 4: my colleagues at the Daily Signal he's up for the 169 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 4: award tonight. So I get to put on a tuxedo 170 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 4: and show up to this and not get Jason hammered 171 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 4: and just have a really good time. 172 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:10,239 Speaker 2: What are these Washington DC parties like? Are we talking 173 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 2: hookers and cocaine? 174 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 4: I mean, are right? 175 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 2: What are we talking here? 176 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 4: I mean, really really just cocaine? I mean, but that 177 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 4: was just you know, on tap at the Biden White House. 178 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 4: They served him in dixie cup. 179 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 3: They had like waiters and waitresses walking around with that 180 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 3: little tray cocaine for. 181 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 2: A slipper of our famous polder. 182 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 3: What's the vibe there about the whole Epstein files released, Tony. 183 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, it's all everyone anywhere is talking about. 184 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 4: And I'm very disappointed in Capitol Hill Republicans. And this 185 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 4: is where I do, in fact, side with Rob Kendall 186 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 4: on Republican congressional stuff because they had the opportunity to 187 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 4: smack this lady named Stacy Plaskett. Now she's a no 188 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 4: name from the Virgin Islands, but she was Jeffrey Epstein's representative. 189 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:00,439 Speaker 4: And I can't believe I'm saying this. The walk Shington 190 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:04,319 Speaker 4: Post and the Republican Oversight Committee worked together to produce 191 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 4: a video showing Epstein was literally controlling her via text 192 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 4: and a hearing in twenty nineteen against the Trump administration. 193 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 4: And so basically they had this amazing political opportunity, I'm 194 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 4: talking beautiful, low hanging fruit to censure this woman and 195 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 4: smack the Democrats with it from now until election day. 196 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:27,839 Speaker 4: They turned it down. Why because there is some Republican 197 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 4: named Corey Mills, who's in trouble again from Florida under 198 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 4: an ethics violation because he sexually exhorted Not his wife, 199 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 4: you know, the one that he married at the Al 200 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:41,439 Speaker 4: Qaeda mosque. No, no, no, his girlfriend who he's sex storted. 201 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 4: So great, fantastic trade, amazing stupidity. 202 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 3: So yeah, individuals aside here, because yes, I saw that 203 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 3: story as well. We mentioned it a little bit earlier. 204 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 3: I gotta be honest with you, and again, I'm a 205 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 3: Trump guy. I voted for Trump three times. 206 00:09:57,679 --> 00:09:57,959 Speaker 2: Now. 207 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 3: I think he and his administration have handled the whole 208 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 3: Epstein Files thing as poorly as possible. And it all 209 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 3: started with that stupid publicity stunt with the social media 210 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 3: influencers at the White House, the Jack Post savix of 211 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 3: the world holding up this binder that set Epstein Files. 212 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 3: It's been a train wreck since then. 213 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 4: So knowing Jack, I was also furious watching this happen. 214 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 4: I think I actually ended up joining Tony Katz on 215 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 4: air as it was happening, and I called it then 216 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 4: a cardinal disaster of a PR stunt. It was the 217 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 4: dumbest I still actually I think I'm quoted in some 218 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 4: left gleaning publications the right eating their own When I 219 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 4: said that was a horrible decision, it was and remains. 220 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 4: But here's the truth of the matter. Now, everyone's already 221 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 4: made up their mind. Everyone's already decided, no matter what 222 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 4: is in those documents, whether someone's guilty or innocent, there's 223 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 4: really nothing that's more salacious here. I think I could 224 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 4: be wrong. I think that essentially it doesn't matter. Everyone's 225 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 4: already decided that everyone's guilty or innocent or nothing in between. 226 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: Well, between the leaked Ebstein emails and the Epstein files, 227 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: what is I mean, what do you think? Is there 228 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: a client list? Are there names? I mean? Do you 229 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: have any working theories on that? 230 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 4: Yes? I do. Here's the list Epstein facilitated through Julane 231 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 4: Maxwell favors and victims to himself, and then he desperately 232 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 4: tried to get blackmail on anyone and everyone who knew 233 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 4: anything about it. I believe there was a failed sting 234 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 4: at mar A Lago that was supposed to go better 235 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 4: for the FBI did not go as well as maybe 236 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 4: the Trump crew had originally envisioned in that sting operation, 237 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 4: And I think that ever since then, based on the emails, 238 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 4: we have. Epstein did every and this according to the emails. 239 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 4: Don't trust me. Trust the emails. He went to everyone 240 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 4: trying to find blackmail on Trump. The only thing he 241 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 4: found was Stormy Daniels. I think the Stormy Daniels story, 242 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 4: that's exactly where it comes from, is from Epstein. That's 243 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 4: where it's from. 244 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 3: Interesting, And we've said from the very beginning, let's be 245 00:11:56,520 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 3: honest here unless you're completely just totally naive, had there 246 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 3: been anything remotely close to linking Donald Trump to having 247 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 3: sex with underage girls between James Comey's daughter who was 248 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 3: the federal prosecutor in the Glenn Maxwell case, or the 249 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 3: Biden Department of Justice who handled this for the previous 250 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 3: four years, they would have found something until now, Like, 251 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,679 Speaker 3: I just don't buy that he was involved in this. 252 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 3: But that's also why I say he screwed this up. 253 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 3: If you didn't do anything, which I don't think he did, 254 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 3: then just say, look, I got nothing to hide. Come 255 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 3: through these all you want, let me know when you're 256 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 3: making some arrests. 257 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 2: But he didn't do that. 258 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 4: Again, I'm going to make a point that Mike Johnson, 259 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 4: when he got out in front of the country and 260 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 4: said Trump had something to do with FBI informant stuff. 261 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 4: He didn't just get out there and make that up 262 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 4: on the spot, as much as people like to pretend 263 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 4: that happens. He saw something and said something he shouldn't have. 264 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 4: I don't know the details of it. I assume there's 265 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 4: more to find out there. I'm not saying anyone snow 266 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 4: White is an angel here, but I am going to 267 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 4: make it clear that if there are any individuals in 268 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 4: here who are pedophiles not indicted, they need to be 269 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 4: hanged in the public square. That's not a euphemism. Grab 270 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 4: the rope, hang them in public square. A good All 271 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 4: pedophiles should. 272 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 3: Be Republicans, Democrats. I don't care who you are you're 273 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 3: doing anything like that. I'm with you, and I want 274 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 3: it on my pay per view execution channel. 275 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:18,319 Speaker 2: Tony, Hey, I want. 276 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 4: To tie the knot on the rope. 277 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 2: What do you got coming up tonight? 278 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 4: Well, we've got a lot of me yelling. I hurt 279 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 4: my back this morning because I'm an old man at 280 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 4: the rifled age of thirty. So I'm pissed and I'm 281 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 4: gonna rant. I'm just going to go off like Bill 282 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 4: O'Reilly f that will do it live? 283 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 2: Nice sounds good. 284 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 3: That's coming up at seven o'clock tonight, the Tony Kennet Cast. 285 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 3: Tony great stuff. Brother, we'll talk again next week. 286 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:41,959 Speaker 4: You guys are the best. 287 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 2: It's the Hammer and Nigel Show.