1 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: Live from Vaal Heartland and the crossroads of America. It's 2 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: Tony Katz today. 3 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 2: It's our expectation that the House will vote at some 4 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 2: point tomorrow and House Democrats will strongly oppose any legislation 5 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 2: that does not decisively address the Republican healthcare crisis. We 6 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 2: want to reopen the government. We'll continue to stand by 7 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 2: our hard working federal employees and civil servants. But we 8 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 2: have a responsibility to make sure now we extend the 9 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 2: Affordable Care Act tax credits so that tens of millions 10 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 2: of Americans don't experience dramatically increase health care costs that's 11 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 2: going to prevent them from being able to see a 12 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 2: doctor when they need one. 13 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 3: What you need to do, Hakeem Jeffries, is get whatever 14 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 3: it is that you've got stuck up somewhere out of 15 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 3: that place, and we have to start rethinking healthcare altogether. 16 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,960 Speaker 3: Obamacare is a failure. It's time for America to grow. 17 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 4: The hell up. 18 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 3: Tony Katz. That is me, Tony Katz today. What's going on? Everybody? 19 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 3: Eight three three four six eight eight sixty six x 20 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 3: nine eight three three got Tony. That's how you get 21 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 3: to be a part of the program. That's a Keem 22 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 3: Jeffries House Minoriti leader. Of course, this legislation has passed 23 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 3: the Senate what they're calling a minibus as opposed to 24 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 3: an omnibus, and it's going to keep certain parts of 25 00:01:55,040 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 3: the government funded through September of twenty twenty six. Parts 26 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 3: of the government, those are going to I think that's January. 27 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 3: I think that's January when we're back at all of 28 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 3: this again. Of course it's annoying, it's nonsense, but here 29 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 3: we are. This is what we've got, and I have 30 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 3: no idea how much a pain in the you know what, 31 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 3: Hakeem Jeffaries is going to be. I have no idea 32 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 3: if there's going to be an issue getting things through 33 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 3: the House. I thought there was gonna be a real 34 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 3: issue with the Senate Ran Paul. 35 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 4: He wants to protect temp. 36 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:43,679 Speaker 3: No I'm not anti Hemp, mind you, but certainly I 37 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 3: don't quite understand why we have to take a look 38 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 3: at the continuing resolution. Say, oh, by the way, weed 39 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 3: for everybody, I know there's a difference, but could you 40 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 3: please just go with me just for a moment. 41 00:02:56,360 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 4: Thank you things the things you have to ask for 42 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:05,639 Speaker 4: a pass for guys, I thought he. 43 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 3: Was going to be more of an issue. I thought 44 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 3: Senate Democrats were going to be more of an issue. 45 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 3: But it wasn't the case. And it passed the Senate 46 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 3: last night. So now it has to go to the 47 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 3: House to be passed. And you say to me, but 48 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 3: it already passed the House. No, no, but past the House 49 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 3: is not what passed the Senate. The Senate did something different. 50 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 3: Now the House has to look at it. The House 51 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 3: has its rules and its regulations that it has to follow. 52 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 3: So can they get this legislation voted on by Wednesday? 53 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 3: And I know what you're saying, they're going to vote 54 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 3: You mean they've never ever ever read it? Oh, they 55 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 3: probably didn't read the fire points. They got told by 56 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 3: some staffer somewhere who's all the age of twenty two. 57 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's great, sir. Is that how twenty two 58 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 4: year old sound producer Landing? Did I get that wrong? 59 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: Oh? 60 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 4: I mean it's never written. Hear my voice. But I mean, 61 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 4: I'll take it. You're not twenty two, are you? I'm 62 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 4: twenty three. That's right, you're a man. Wow, guys, I 63 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 4: don't mean it's a brutal. 64 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 3: Day, but I don't think they read it, they're just 65 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 3: gonna pass it, not one hundred percent being aware of. 66 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 4: What's in it. 67 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 3: And does that mean Wednesday, Thursday it gets passed, and 68 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 3: so Friday it's on the President's dask and it's all 69 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 3: over this week. Well, if you're an air traffic controller, 70 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 3: you hope. So if you are in the military, you hope. 71 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 3: So if you're a kid on snap, you hope so 72 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 3: or I don't know, maybe Democrats will try and delay 73 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:41,479 Speaker 3: things and hope more kids starve. 74 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 4: I don't know. 75 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 3: I was told that Donald Trump was gonna make kids starve, 76 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 3: and then you saw Trump saying, my gosh, we should 77 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 3: engage the filibusters so we can get this passed. And 78 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 3: then you saw Democrats come across and say we're putting 79 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 3: an end to this and we're gonna vote to reopen 80 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 3: the government. And Democrats said no. So it's Democrats who 81 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 3: wanted showed to starve. They said it up Trump, but 82 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 3: they meant it of themselves. These are the rules that 83 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 3: they created. All I'm doing is following the rules, and 84 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 3: anybody doesn't follow the rules, I'm going to point out 85 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 3: and laugh at because this is what they said. They 86 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 3: said Republicans wanted to children to starve. Clearly, Hakeem Jeffries 87 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:23,840 Speaker 3: wants children to starve. He's thrilled and overjoyed by this idea. 88 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 4: As you know, the bill that will be on the. 89 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 3: House floor would fund the federal government until the end 90 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 3: of January some key agencies through the end of next year. 91 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 3: What do you see happening on January thirtieth. 92 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 2: Well, I think what's going to be important over the 93 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 2: next few weeks once this issue is resolved relative to 94 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 2: this particular piece of legislation is that on December thirty one, 95 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 2: the Affordable Care Act tax credits expire, and dozens of 96 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 2: House Republicans have been claiming over the last few weeks 97 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 2: that they know that it's something that needs to be addressed. 98 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 2: How we're going to have to see some action, or 99 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 2: whether it was just talk from these House Republicans because 100 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 2: Democrats are going to continue to stay in the arena 101 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 2: as it relates to dealing with the healthcare crisis that 102 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 2: Republicans have visited on the American people. 103 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 3: He has no capacity, does a Keem Jeffries for any 104 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 3: level of decency. We should be clear that it is 105 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 3: my belief, having now had more chance to study the subject. 106 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 3: I have made the argument that President Trump would be 107 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 3: in favor of the subsidies populace, he who does not 108 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 3: want to see prices or costs go up while he's 109 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 3: in office. Neither do some Republicans in certain districts who 110 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 3: need to worry about midterms. All politics are local, and 111 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 3: while the thing certainly does not work, you don't want 112 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 3: voters unhappy. 113 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 4: That they have to pay more. 114 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 3: There's a guy by the name of Ovik Roy, and 115 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 3: if you haven't heard heard him from freeop friopp freeop 116 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 3: dot org. 117 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 4: Where he is the co founder and chairman. 118 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 3: His work on healthcare policy is excellent, and I'll share 119 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 3: with you my conversation with him regarding the complete rethinks 120 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 3: we have to do. Subsidies don't save us, Obamacare doesn't work, 121 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 3: Obamacare raised the price of health insurance. Hakeem Jeffries has 122 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 3: to be confronted with this reality that while maybe there 123 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 3: will be Republicans who go across and vote to extend 124 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 3: the subsidies, which all could have happened without a shutdown, 125 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 3: mind you, we have a system that doesn't work, and 126 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 3: we have a Congressman by the name Ofqem Jeffries who 127 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 3: refuses to note this, this doesn't work. 128 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 4: It was a lie. 129 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 3: Barack Obama lied. I don't think I'm telling you anything 130 00:07:55,440 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 3: you didn't already know. Barack Obama lied. The Democratic Party lied. 131 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 3: They're still lying. The Affordable Care Act is so affordable 132 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 3: that you need subsidies via tax. 133 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 4: Credits in order for people to afford it. 134 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 3: That's not affordable. That's a load of bs. That's what 135 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 3: Obamacare is. Republicans have not done any job. I'm not 136 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 3: going to say not a good job. They have not 137 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 3: done any job in saying here's what we have to 138 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 3: do to replace this. They haven't done anything about this. 139 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 3: They have not said here's what we can replace it with, 140 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 3: which I favor replacing it with the market changing fundamentally 141 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 3: how we do things. 142 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 4: You know. 143 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 3: President Trump has been discussing the idea of well, my gosh, 144 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 3: let's just send the money back. 145 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 4: Let's just send it back to the people. 146 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 3: Trump saying he's gonna abide buy the deal to end 147 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 3: the government shutdown, but he wants to put an end 148 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 3: to Obamacare subsidies. 149 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:07,439 Speaker 4: Why in the. 150 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 3: World are we giving the money to all these insurance 151 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 3: companies in these hospital groups. No, no, no, no, we 152 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:17,959 Speaker 3: should give the money directly to the people. Well, maybe 153 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 3: we should have a conversation about why the government is 154 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 3: giving us our money back and we're supposed to be thankful. 155 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 4: How about we just keep our money. 156 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 3: But more to the points here is I thought Trump 157 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 3: was going to be in favor of the subsidies, and 158 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 3: this can make one think he wants to get rid 159 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 3: of the subsidies. No, no, no, no, he wants to 160 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 3: change how we think about the dollars. He doesn't have 161 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 3: the plan yet, he has the broad strokes and the concepts. 162 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 3: And I'll be the first one to say, Okay, let's 163 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 3: build on that, let's grow on that. And why don't 164 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 3: Republicans consider the eyes idea that they need to show 165 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 3: up for the mid term saying, look at this plan. 166 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 3: We're going to reduce costs finally, once and for all. 167 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 4: We're going to change the way the system works. 168 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:20,959 Speaker 3: So that's not about the insurance company, it's not about 169 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 3: the hospital groups. It's about you. We're not going to 170 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 3: lie to you like Barack Obama did. 171 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 4: Here you go. 172 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 3: I don't know if they'll be able to get that 173 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 3: put together in a year. I don't know if they're 174 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:42,079 Speaker 3: going to want to risk that. Not sure, but it 175 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 3: appears that as a concept I was right about where 176 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 3: Trump is. But Trump is saying, why are we doing 177 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 3: the subsidies the way we're doing them? Why can't we 178 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:57,199 Speaker 3: just send the money elsewhere? I would argue, why does 179 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 3: it cost so much? And why do we have to 180 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 3: pay in so much that we have to beg government 181 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 3: to give us some back? 182 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 4: In either case, what this shutdown should do. 183 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 3: One could argue that one of the byproducts of this 184 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:18,559 Speaker 3: shutdown is now Americans are talking about healthcare. The Democratic 185 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 3: Party seems pleased by this idea. Why you've done such 186 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 3: a good job of it? Obamacare is such a good 187 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 3: job of it. If we are now going to be 188 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 3: addressing this conversation, if this is the result, well then 189 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 3: why don't we address the fact that Obamacare sucks and 190 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 3: it was a lie and Barack Obama is a no good, 191 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 3: dirty two bit liar fraud and Akeem Jeffries isn't interested 192 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 3: in something better for the American people. He doesn't care 193 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 3: that a whole group of Americans get good and holy screwed. 194 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 4: It doesn't mean anything as long as he. 195 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 3: Appeases a more radicalized base day by day, week by week, 196 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 3: month by month, and year by year, more and more 197 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:14,439 Speaker 3: radicalized by screaming at you for not being in favor 198 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 3: of this Obamacare nonsense garbage. You're telling us that without subsidies, 199 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 3: Obamacare is unaffordable. 200 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 4: What you have. 201 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 3: Told me is we can't go further down the road 202 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 3: of government healthcare. I know that's gonna be the Bernie 203 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,559 Speaker 3: Sanders line. But Bernie Sanders has never done anything with 204 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 3: his life. He's never created anything. He is a taker 205 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 3: from day one, a government employee, a government employee, a 206 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:45,679 Speaker 3: government employee. The only thing he ever took was a 207 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 3: wife who bankrupted a college. 208 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:48,959 Speaker 4: That's it. 209 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 3: Nothing else. The answer is not more of their government 210 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:58,359 Speaker 3: run in sanity. The answer is a better plan. 211 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 4: Now. No matter what Republicans do. 212 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 3: And here is the political reality. The Democrats are going 213 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 3: to say, you're hurting poor people. That's no matter what 214 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:18,439 Speaker 3: they say. Healthcare will not cost. 215 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 4: You a dime, and everybody is going to get a puppy. 216 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:24,559 Speaker 3: If Republicans said that, Democrats would say, great, now you're 217 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 3: giving people allergic to dogs a puppy. 218 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 4: You're just trying to kill them. It doesn't it. 219 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 3: Doesn't matter what the Republicans say, the. 220 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 5: Only way to go about a change, The only way 221 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 5: to go about a change is if it's built into 222 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 5: other legislation, so it is all kind of mushed together 223 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 5: the stuff that you and I hate. 224 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 3: There's a reason that you hide the dog's medicine and 225 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 3: the peanut butter. 226 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 4: The other way to. 227 00:13:56,120 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 3: Do this is with a massive, full frontal of salt, 228 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 3: where you go after every Democrat and every talking head 229 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 3: on CNN and MSNBC. 230 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 4: With a vengeance when they lie. 231 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 3: And you've got to be able to explain your healthcare 232 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 3: plan in one sentence, one sentence, and that sentence has 233 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:26,479 Speaker 3: to be something like, you're in charge of your healthcare, 234 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 3: not some hospital. You're in charge of your healthcare, not 235 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 3: some insurance company. Republicans believe you're in charge of your healthcare, 236 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 3: not some insurance company, which the facta means Democrats think 237 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 3: insurance companies are in charge. Now, I don't actually hate 238 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 3: insurance companies, but if you're going to sell it, this 239 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 3: the way you gotta sell it, and you got to 240 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 3: be so rough and so tumble, you got to be 241 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 3: so unbelievably aggressive with the political left and the media 242 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 3: that they aren't able to win some kind of hate 243 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 3: messaging campaign because what they want is government run healthcare 244 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 3: and you having less and less choices, which is exactly 245 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 3: what government run healthcare will do. So we've got a 246 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 3: political reality that could come to light here, but we 247 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 3: have to get through the initial one, which is what 248 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 3: happens if Democrats slow down this passage to end the shutdown. 249 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 3: Bad things, Man, Bad things. I'm Tony Katz, and this 250 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 3: is Tony Katz today.