WEBVTT - Hamnet 0:00:01.680 --> 0:00:10.600 The Frames per second podcast. YOA, what's good? Everybody is 0:00:10.720 --> 0:00:16.600 ride back with another France per second episode. Today we 0:00:16.640 --> 0:00:21.160 are reviewing Hamnet Himnet. It also was for like uh 0:00:21.840 --> 0:00:24.639 awards and stuff like that, and we're right now we're 0:00:25.800 --> 0:00:29.560 doing like a little little mini series of nominated films 0:00:29.600 --> 0:00:33.400 and things. But I am not here alone reviewing this 0:00:33.479 --> 0:00:36.680 with along with me is to my right can be Inge. 0:00:38.040 --> 0:00:40.720 In front of him, we got Spike and next to 0:00:40.800 --> 0:00:41.880 him we got Mike c Town. 0:00:42.080 --> 0:00:42.280 Yo. 0:00:42.560 --> 0:00:45.959 That's good, y'all. Y'all good? Mm hmmm, all right, cool man. 0:00:46.000 --> 0:00:47.920 So we're gonna get into this, man, we ain't gonna 0:00:48.159 --> 0:00:49.880 waste too much time. I know we're trying to get 0:00:50.040 --> 0:00:54.600 get through this, you know, super Bowl, but this is 0:00:54.640 --> 0:00:58.200 hamnet Man, a twenty twenty five historical strategy film directed 0:00:58.240 --> 0:01:02.960 by Chloe zau As also co wrote, who also co 0:01:03.040 --> 0:01:06.840 wrote the screenplay with Maggie O'Farrell, Based on the twenty 0:01:06.880 --> 0:01:11.839 twenty novel by O'Farrell. The film dramatizes the family life 0:01:11.880 --> 0:01:15.759 of William Shakespeare and his wife Agnes Half the Way, 0:01:15.760 --> 0:01:19.000 which I thought was interesting because we just reviewed. I'm 0:01:19.000 --> 0:01:20.520 not sure which one is gonna come out first. Where 0:01:20.520 --> 0:01:24.120 We just reviewed Sentimental Value, and the girl's name in 0:01:24.160 --> 0:01:26.120 that movie was at one of the girls names in 0:01:26.160 --> 0:01:29.880 there was Agnes, and they also referenced to Hamlet in 0:01:29.920 --> 0:01:32.440 that movie. I don't know if y'all realize that. So 0:01:32.520 --> 0:01:34.840 I thought that was like kind of interesting that we 0:01:34.840 --> 0:01:38.640 were doing doing two movies that kind of kind of 0:01:38.640 --> 0:01:43.760 relate to tragedy, so and I wanted one if that 0:01:43.840 --> 0:01:49.760 was intentional in that movie. But but yeah, basically they're 0:01:49.840 --> 0:01:52.880 coping with the death of their eleven year old son, Hamnet, 0:01:53.640 --> 0:01:58.760 which stars Jesse Buckley, Paul mescal And as Agnes, and 0:01:58.800 --> 0:02:04.400 William along alongside Emily Watson, Joel Allen and Noah Juke 0:02:04.520 --> 0:02:14.239 in supporting roles. What was I gonna say the film? Well, 0:02:14.320 --> 0:02:16.799 before I get into that part, how did you guys 0:02:16.840 --> 0:02:18.760 feel about this film? Like it was this something that 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:21.040 was on yall radiar or you know, just because we 0:02:21.040 --> 0:02:24.600 were gonna review it. We reviewed it and also did 0:02:24.639 --> 0:02:25.359 you like it? 0:02:25.760 --> 0:02:32.240 Spike God, No, this was worse than the reality. I 0:02:32.320 --> 0:02:38.120 just couldn't this was this was even in English. This 0:02:38.320 --> 0:02:43.240 was like I didn't get it. I didn't understand the hype. 0:02:43.320 --> 0:02:45.720 But I felt like that even when I've seen this preview. 0:02:46.520 --> 0:02:48.640 When I went to go see something else, and even 0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:51.440 a preview, I was like, this movie looked all pretentious 0:02:51.560 --> 0:02:56.480 and it just the preview irritated me. But then when 0:02:56.480 --> 0:02:59.240 we got in the world and I started looking at 0:02:59.240 --> 0:03:01.200 it like it's it was one scene in here, I. 0:03:01.240 --> 0:03:06.120 Like, okay, all right, we'll get into that, ken, how 0:03:06.160 --> 0:03:08.280 did you like it? 0:03:08.280 --> 0:03:12.960 It received eight OSCAR nominations, a Best Picture, Best Director, 0:03:13.160 --> 0:03:19.120 Best Actress, Adaptive Screenplay, costume design, production, nown score, and casting, 0:03:20.240 --> 0:03:23.120 and some other joints. I did enjoy though, I actually 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:25.640 did enjoy it. It was oh I was like, damn, 0:03:25.919 --> 0:03:31.880 actually like that? What did you like about this? 0:03:32.600 --> 0:03:38.800 Did you? What did you like about this? Mike Spike 0:03:38.840 --> 0:03:42.800 wrapped my mind just now asking came what the this 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:47.120 was awful? I wanted to slit my throat and my 0:03:47.160 --> 0:03:51.440 wrists at the same time. I fucking hated this. Man. 0:03:51.600 --> 0:03:55.800 I don't fucking like Shakespeare. I don't like this fucking 0:03:56.400 --> 0:04:00.200 third world time. I don't not third world. Sorry, I 0:04:00.200 --> 0:04:04.200 don't like this time period. This was fucking a chore. 0:04:04.640 --> 0:04:07.640 I was gonna yet, oh man, Yeah, y'all can stay 0:04:07.640 --> 0:04:11.000 on that couch with this bullshit. Oh man, I can't you. 0:04:11.080 --> 0:04:16.480 I'm not. I'm not the biggest fan of of uh 0:04:17.000 --> 0:04:19.960 English literature or whatever, like like, I'm not a big fan. 0:04:21.040 --> 0:04:24.040 It's weird. I have a weird relationship with Shakespeare because 0:04:24.160 --> 0:04:29.080 I can respect the stories. I just hate all the 0:04:28.920 --> 0:04:34.080 the way they speak, how it's written. That's the part English. Yeah, 0:04:34.120 --> 0:04:36.120 that part kind of gets me sometime. But when people 0:04:36.160 --> 0:04:39.479 starting to monernize it a little bit, I could it's 0:04:39.480 --> 0:04:43.080 more palable at that point, like like oh, I like 0:04:43.160 --> 0:04:47.200 oh like but but yeah, so that's what I appreciated 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:49.920 about this. It's like the times where they did do that, 0:04:50.120 --> 0:04:53.640 they were reenacting things. It wasn't like part of the 0:04:53.760 --> 0:04:58.159 actual dialogue. Oh you feel that way, yeah, am my 0:04:58.200 --> 0:05:01.160 trip reenacting? They were they were talking all stupid the 0:05:01.200 --> 0:05:05.760 whole movie. Do you think that I've seen it worse? Well, sure, 0:05:05.960 --> 0:05:08.159 but that doesn't mean it's not here. So I guess 0:05:08.200 --> 0:05:10.400 this was enough for me. This This was more palatable 0:05:10.400 --> 0:05:12.440 for me because I've seen it to where they I mean, 0:05:12.480 --> 0:05:15.400 it's like, it wasn't this down fun that woman, Yeah, 0:05:15.400 --> 0:05:15.960 it wasn't like that. 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:21.200 It was it wasn't it wasn't it wasn't heavy handed. 0:05:21.440 --> 0:05:25.760 I wasn't heavy. Hen it wasn't heavy handed. Oh man, 0:05:25.960 --> 0:05:29.120 the hand was heavy enough. Oh my god, I was 0:05:29.160 --> 0:05:32.960 cussing the funk out of jailing on this one description. 0:05:33.640 --> 0:05:35.880 He was upset. He got. 0:05:37.240 --> 0:05:39.320 So as I walked around the corner. Why the fun 0:05:39.480 --> 0:05:43.680 we're doing him decisions? I missed this hold on. I 0:05:43.720 --> 0:05:47.280 was like, I thought we was gonna skip it. I 0:05:47.279 --> 0:05:49.000 thought we talked about skipping on later. 0:05:49.120 --> 0:05:52.320 But anyway, I'm glad we did watch it because I 0:05:52.680 --> 0:05:55.480 enjoyed it. I enjoyed it too. I enjoyed it too, 0:05:56.360 --> 0:05:56.680 you know. 0:05:57.040 --> 0:06:01.440 Like, oh man, what flabbergast did y'all liked this? 0:06:01.560 --> 0:06:03.920 Me too? Oh? Well, well, I think it was beautifully shot. 0:06:03.920 --> 0:06:06.640 Can we agree that sentimental value was solid? But this ship, 0:06:06.720 --> 0:06:10.160 y'all like it? I'm blowing the funk away. Damn. This 0:06:10.320 --> 0:06:13.640 was so much worse than I appreciate sentimentalbod much more now. 0:06:13.680 --> 0:06:15.760 I thought we would all be in agreeance and this. 0:06:15.800 --> 0:06:17.920 Oh no, no, no no. I thought we was going 0:06:17.920 --> 0:06:21.039 into it, especially if they all liked talking. Well, yeah, 0:06:21.080 --> 0:06:23.160 I didn't think I was gonna like this, but I did. 0:06:23.240 --> 0:06:24.960 I end up liking it. I ended up enjoying it. 0:06:25.000 --> 0:06:29.120 I was like, oh, I like this anyway. Damn all right, 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:31.440 So we start off like with the prologue, was a 0:06:32.880 --> 0:06:36.279 Hamlet and Hamlet were considered the same name. I didn't 0:06:36.400 --> 0:06:39.240 know they are even being cared to know that or whatever, 0:06:39.279 --> 0:06:42.640 but it made sense in the movie. Whatever. Right, So 0:06:43.800 --> 0:06:46.720 we started off with with the man. He's known just 0:06:46.880 --> 0:06:49.279 the husband. He works as a tutor to help pay 0:06:49.320 --> 0:06:54.400 his family's debt. And then we also are introduced to Agnes. 0:06:54.440 --> 0:06:57.120 So we see her in a beautiful shot coming from 0:06:57.160 --> 0:07:00.080 above and she's like just in the wood, in the 0:07:00.120 --> 0:07:03.120 forest or the woods or whatever, and then she summons, 0:07:03.160 --> 0:07:05.480 not summons, but like calls on a hawk or whatever. 0:07:07.240 --> 0:07:09.760 How did y'all fell about the opening of this movie? 0:07:09.880 --> 0:07:13.120 I was done immediately, damn Why because she's out here 0:07:13.160 --> 0:07:16.640 fucking talking to birds. She's a witch, She's a forest witch. 0:07:16.680 --> 0:07:19.400 She didn't do nothing cool. She's gonna be a witch. 0:07:19.440 --> 0:07:21.720 Do something cool, at least the chicken. The witch flew 0:07:23.560 --> 0:07:27.480 talking this ship. She over here, fucking come to me 0:07:27.600 --> 0:07:29.560 bird and the bird just landing on her. What the fun? 0:07:29.720 --> 0:07:31.560 But she can see things too, She can see into 0:07:31.560 --> 0:07:33.440 the future, and she didn't see her little punk ass 0:07:33.520 --> 0:07:36.520 kid died. Stupid ass. She didn't watching him. Apparently you 0:07:36.520 --> 0:07:41.840 ain't parents. That's what Eminem said. I thought that was forecast. 0:07:42.320 --> 0:07:44.760 I thought she did. So she read that forecast. Real shit. 0:07:45.160 --> 0:07:47.400 She got the same odds as those motherfuckers that were 0:07:47.400 --> 0:07:50.280 reading the weather for Atlanta. But her her premonition was right. 0:07:50.560 --> 0:07:53.080 But she was confused about the premenation. She was like, 0:07:53.120 --> 0:07:55.680 wait a minute, now there were two of them, but 0:07:55.720 --> 0:07:58.480 I just had three something made right, Yes, stupid, one 0:07:58.520 --> 0:07:59.720 of them was gonna die. It was. 0:07:59.760 --> 0:08:06.600 It was early technology. Wasn't to say, you know, the 0:08:06.680 --> 0:08:12.000 reception was a little they had to plays How did 0:08:12.000 --> 0:08:14.239 you feel about the opening the same way? Just immediately 0:08:14.280 --> 0:08:14.680 turned off? 0:08:14.760 --> 0:08:18.280 Had nothing immediately turned off? I wouldn't. I wasn't curious 0:08:18.320 --> 0:08:20.600 as to how she was calling the bird and none 0:08:20.680 --> 0:08:23.080 of it. And I was like, what what is fucking 0:08:23.120 --> 0:08:24.160 beast master out here? 0:08:24.200 --> 0:08:36.400 Bro? Damn bro animals. When I thought about the opening, uh, 0:08:36.880 --> 0:08:38.559 it was it was. It was cool. It was cool. 0:08:38.600 --> 0:08:40.760 I think they kind of, you know, it was kind 0:08:40.800 --> 0:08:45.720 of foreshadowing, like the whole sort of haunting horror elements 0:08:45.800 --> 0:08:49.120 that you know that kind of played around throughout the 0:08:49.120 --> 0:08:50.199 rest of the movie. 0:08:51.520 --> 0:08:54.400 You know, and uh, well, I don't know, we we 0:08:54.440 --> 0:08:57.320 haven't gotten to him yet, but I will say that yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:08:57.320 --> 0:08:59.200 well we we kind of got into him because he 0:08:59.360 --> 0:09:02.360 sees her do this or whatever, and then that he's 0:09:02.360 --> 0:09:05.200 intrigued and he stops what he's doing. Like I said, 0:09:05.200 --> 0:09:06.680 he's a tutor. He stops what he's doing and he 0:09:06.720 --> 0:09:09.679 goes on and you know, introduces himself and they pretty 0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:10.880 much immediately hit it off. 0:09:11.000 --> 0:09:12.760 That was the thing that got me. I was like, God, 0:09:12.880 --> 0:09:18.840 damn Christ Like, I was like, okay. 0:09:19.000 --> 0:09:20.679 Looking at him, like he's crazy. You see a chick 0:09:20.720 --> 0:09:22.520 talking to a burden. She's like, I got to hit that. 0:09:23.240 --> 0:09:24.600 The immediate is wrong with you. 0:09:25.760 --> 0:09:27.320 He said he was bewitched by her. 0:09:29.400 --> 0:09:32.120 Here. Yeah, but yeah, they share a moment and she 0:09:32.200 --> 0:09:34.760 gives she basically gives him a premonition and early on 0:09:34.880 --> 0:09:38.000 just saying like, uh not things that I guess you 0:09:38.080 --> 0:09:40.920 see with him, and she also and I don't think 0:09:40.960 --> 0:09:45.760 that happened yet. So but yeah, so williams uh damn, 0:09:46.040 --> 0:09:48.319 he's not revealed. I don't think he's revealed this William yet. 0:09:48.640 --> 0:09:50.520 He's revealed this William just's not William Shakespeare. 0:09:50.600 --> 0:09:50.760 Yeah. 0:09:50.800 --> 0:09:52.960 Yeah, so he is revealed as William. You had to 0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:56.080 be a I'm sorry you got well. I was saying, 0:09:56.200 --> 0:09:59.800 you have to be a real dumb motherfucker. Rod didn't. 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:02.360 When they said it later, I was like, oh, ship, 0:10:02.440 --> 0:10:07.920 come on, Broad I know, I know, I know how 0:10:07.960 --> 0:10:10.480 many Williams could there be in this world? I feel you, 0:10:10.559 --> 0:10:13.079 but I wasn't thinking about it. I take it back. 0:10:13.120 --> 0:10:15.440 You're not dumb, but it's just you know it's fun. No, 0:10:15.559 --> 0:10:17.600 it's not fun. It's fun because I didn't. Did you 0:10:17.720 --> 0:10:30.760 think about it? Like I'm dumbing alone? That is a question. 0:10:30.960 --> 0:10:32.280 How did you know he was not to be? 0:10:32.440 --> 0:10:33.480 Who did you think it was? 0:10:33.960 --> 0:10:35.920 The will didn't even think about this, that this was 0:10:35.960 --> 0:10:38.560 the story of I didn't think he was in the 0:10:38.600 --> 0:10:43.600 story William Shakespeare. You didn't know. You didn't know Hamlet 0:10:43.600 --> 0:10:46.160 it was this No, No, I didn't know him. It 0:10:46.200 --> 0:10:48.120 was a son, So yeah, I didn't know that. I 0:10:48.120 --> 0:10:50.240 didn't have that context. Is that is that part of 0:10:50.240 --> 0:10:53.800 the Hamlet story? I thought Hamlet was Hamlet was about 0:10:54.320 --> 0:10:57.679 the king. Yeah, but it's pretty much known that he 0:10:57.800 --> 0:11:00.960 was writing about his kids. I didn't. Again, I told you, 0:11:00.960 --> 0:11:03.440 I didn't. I didn't really care for English literature like that. 0:11:03.480 --> 0:11:07.880 I it's like one of my worst subjects. But really 0:11:07.920 --> 0:11:11.720 for you English, well know, this type of English regular 0:11:11.800 --> 0:11:14.640 literature I could kill. But this type of ship I 0:11:14.679 --> 0:11:17.199 hated and I hated it, especially like when they wanted 0:11:17.240 --> 0:11:20.360 us to like emulate that write and explain what he's 0:11:20.360 --> 0:11:24.480 talking about. My fucking are you serious? I hated it. 0:11:24.880 --> 0:11:30.000 I hated it. But anyway, so William's mother Mary, and 0:11:30.080 --> 0:11:32.000 for some of the rumors about acting, is it that 0:11:32.400 --> 0:11:35.520 daughter of the forest witch who taught her or herbal 0:11:35.640 --> 0:11:41.440 lore which uses later to heal this cut on his forehead. 0:11:41.600 --> 0:11:43.439 So I know you mentioned about her being a witch 0:11:43.480 --> 0:11:45.280 anything any of this part and trigued you guys that 0:11:45.920 --> 0:11:47.200 you know about her being a witch anything. 0:11:47.200 --> 0:11:48.640 I was wondering what she was doing when she was 0:11:48.720 --> 0:11:51.640 mixing up a little potion forest pharmacist or something like 0:11:52.320 --> 0:12:00.280 making crack. But I did wonder what she was doing 0:12:00.280 --> 0:12:01.319 when she took the fly with it. 0:12:01.720 --> 0:12:03.240 Honey, she put it there. 0:12:03.280 --> 0:12:04.520 I don't know what the shit was. 0:12:04.600 --> 0:12:07.160 Yeah, I don't know. It's just some horror shit. Yeah, 0:12:07.200 --> 0:12:11.960 snake es, you know all of that. So it did 0:12:12.040 --> 0:12:14.080 just stand out to anybody else. I was excited for 0:12:14.120 --> 0:12:17.280 her for about ten minutes because I was like, oh, 0:12:17.920 --> 0:12:20.880 maybe this is a horror movie. Okay, you everything, it's 0:12:20.920 --> 0:12:23.560 a horror movie. I was hoping. I was like, Okay, 0:12:23.600 --> 0:12:25.680 I didn't know she was. It was about witches, so 0:12:25.720 --> 0:12:27.160 I was like, Okay, she's a witch and she's making 0:12:27.160 --> 0:12:29.240 some kind of potion and she put it on his forehead. 0:12:29.240 --> 0:12:30.880 Maybe he'll grow horn out of it and this will 0:12:30.920 --> 0:12:31.400 get cool. 0:12:31.800 --> 0:12:36.319 But no, I was like, Mike, I did think horror too. 0:12:36.360 --> 0:12:38.520 I was like, oh, they putting a horror spin on it. 0:12:38.880 --> 0:12:42.920 I was like, okay, I like this. And it was dark, 0:12:43.400 --> 0:12:45.960 you know, like what happened, and there were these premonitions 0:12:46.000 --> 0:12:47.559 and stuff, which is one of the things that. 0:12:47.520 --> 0:12:48.360 I liked about it. 0:12:49.400 --> 0:12:51.640 But I mean, I knew she wasn't a witch, but 0:12:51.840 --> 0:12:54.120 you know, back in the old times, bruh, Like all 0:12:54.160 --> 0:12:55.199 you need is the accusation. 0:12:55.559 --> 0:12:57.520 But she was a witch, wasn't she. I mean not 0:12:57.600 --> 0:13:01.680 in the like I don't think you hast spells on people. 0:13:01.760 --> 0:13:03.760 She was a witch? How many inublical cords did you 0:13:03.800 --> 0:13:07.120 see this movie? That's just that's just nah. 0:13:07.440 --> 0:13:09.640 The babies didn't have blood on them, right. 0:13:09.840 --> 0:13:14.240 She's a witch. That's just direction. Bro. No, they had 0:13:14.280 --> 0:13:16.120 to do that unintentionally because none of the kids had 0:13:16.160 --> 0:13:18.679 in bilical cords. I feel you, But this was a 0:13:18.760 --> 0:13:21.240 low budget film. I'd be with you, but for something 0:13:21.320 --> 0:13:24.880 like this, this wasn't at budget, no budget go there, 0:13:26.800 --> 0:13:29.840 because I didn't dad that series like where. 0:13:32.080 --> 0:13:33.720 Always I didn't. 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:35.600 I'm just saying I don't think this is just like 0:13:35.720 --> 0:13:37.840 a movie that didn't have any kind of budget to 0:13:38.000 --> 0:13:40.280 put in a biblical cord. This seemed like an indie 0:13:40.280 --> 0:13:44.160 film to me, but it was. But and the guy, Yeah, 0:13:44.200 --> 0:13:48.040 thirty five mil. That's enough for in the bilical cord. Yeah, 0:13:48.040 --> 0:13:49.839 but you know people do that though in movies and 0:13:49.880 --> 0:13:54.560 shows they won't have it. Yeah, and shitty movies and shows, 0:13:54.600 --> 0:13:56.839 but like good movies, they haven't bilical cords. Like even 0:13:56.880 --> 0:13:59.280 Saidie Sweeney had the biblical cord. Yeah, I get you. 0:13:59.320 --> 0:14:01.360 But why she having the baby in the woods? Then 0:14:01.360 --> 0:14:05.240 if if she wasn't some kind of witch, I feel you, 0:14:06.160 --> 0:14:07.959 I feel you. I don't know. I just didn't see 0:14:07.960 --> 0:14:10.400 any any witch ship other than the fact that she 0:14:10.480 --> 0:14:10.959 can see. 0:14:12.559 --> 0:14:15.719 Yeah, these these sort of premonitions that may or may 0:14:15.760 --> 0:14:17.320 not come true, and I think some of them did. 0:14:17.320 --> 0:14:19.720 But I think her having a baby in. 0:14:19.600 --> 0:14:22.800 The woods, I think they were trying to play on 0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:25.560 the on the accusations of her being a witch. 0:14:30.880 --> 0:14:31.360 Exactly. 0:14:31.400 --> 0:14:35.280 I thought I knew the answer, but exactly. Weird. 0:14:35.640 --> 0:14:38.160 I'm trying to remember why would she go because I'm 0:14:38.200 --> 0:14:40.960 trying to think that she was trying to hide the 0:14:41.080 --> 0:14:45.560 baby because that baby was still born, right, the one 0:14:45.640 --> 0:14:51.160 that Judith was was Hamnet was wait, it wasn't Hamon 0:14:51.240 --> 0:14:53.520 or the girl, but but but he ended up coming 0:14:53.640 --> 0:14:54.560 he ended up coming back to like. 0:14:54.640 --> 0:14:57.160 Yeah, but that was that was Judith. Judith was still born. 0:14:57.240 --> 0:15:00.320 But the first baby she had in the woods, she 0:15:00.360 --> 0:15:04.320 didn't have that child. I think that one was she 0:15:04.400 --> 0:15:04.880 was pregnant. 0:15:05.680 --> 0:15:09.000 She was pregnant. So she had three total kids? Yeah, yeah, three, Yes, 0:15:09.520 --> 0:15:12.240 the baby one of them died. Where did you call twin? 0:15:12.360 --> 0:15:14.960 The two twins handing in and judiful twins? 0:15:15.120 --> 0:15:17.320 They kind of split the screens though. It woods hard 0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:18.680 to track because I asked the same thing. 0:15:19.040 --> 0:15:21.760 It was not one of them was old and then 0:15:21.840 --> 0:15:23.400 she had one and the lady was like, oh, you're 0:15:23.400 --> 0:15:24.040 still in label. 0:15:24.040 --> 0:15:26.880 No, no, those are the twins, right, So she had 0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:28.520 one before, right, That's what I'm saying. 0:15:28.960 --> 0:15:30.840 In the woods, one of the woods was still alive 0:15:30.880 --> 0:15:34.400 and walking around. Okay, that was the oldest kid. Yeah, okay, 0:15:34.640 --> 0:15:36.840 the one that fucking hamd that killed himself for like 0:15:36.840 --> 0:15:43.240 a dumb ass, stupid little ship. It was I hate 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:46.040 that little punk ass boys. What you wanting. You're gonna 0:15:46.080 --> 0:15:48.320 come over here and save you, get your stupid ass 0:15:48.320 --> 0:15:50.800 out of here. But we ain't got there yet anyway 0:15:51.640 --> 0:15:56.160 I'm doing. Do I be that bad? Yes? I'm sorry? 0:15:57.960 --> 0:16:03.520 Sorry ship anyway, So moving on and moving on. I 0:16:03.520 --> 0:16:08.240 had another question when I forgot we were sucking around. 0:16:08.880 --> 0:16:12.800 I said that, so, yeah, Agnes spends a lot of 0:16:12.840 --> 0:16:14.440 time in the forest. We were just talking about what 0:16:14.480 --> 0:16:16.520 there's a mysterious k which I kind of comes back 0:16:16.520 --> 0:16:21.160 around later. William visits Agnes again in the forest, where 0:16:21.280 --> 0:16:23.920 she asks for a story. He recounts the legend of 0:16:24.520 --> 0:16:30.640 Orpheus Euris. I thought this was really you didn't like 0:16:30.680 --> 0:16:35.160 this part? Oh man? They was basically even just telling 0:16:35.200 --> 0:16:37.400 the same story we're already watching. I know, but but 0:16:37.600 --> 0:16:39.280 it was just it was just it was just nicely 0:16:39.360 --> 0:16:42.760 not the way he delivered it was was I don't know, 0:16:42.840 --> 0:16:43.360 yeah he was. 0:16:43.400 --> 0:16:45.760 He was like, you want a motherfucking store, I got it. 0:16:47.840 --> 0:16:50.760 In tregue like I like that, which comes back around 0:16:50.840 --> 0:16:53.840 later like like he was really good at storytelling, especially 0:16:53.840 --> 0:16:56.280 now that well I didn't know he was William Shakespeare. 0:16:56.800 --> 0:16:59.840 But I'm like, oh no, wonder this motherfucker that ship. 0:17:00.200 --> 0:17:10.880 But that's why that story Shakespeare. 0:17:12.520 --> 0:17:16.040 But that's why. That's what I was thinking watching it. 0:17:16.080 --> 0:17:17.560 I'm like, of course he tells the stories. 0:17:17.560 --> 0:17:18.440 It's William Shakespeare. 0:17:18.680 --> 0:17:20.359 Man, you are you're not telling me you weren't all 0:17:20.400 --> 0:17:23.080 up in that story. You were like, pen is what 0:17:23.880 --> 0:17:24.560 I just know. 0:17:27.119 --> 0:17:31.119 She looked bad. Damn she there for eternity. But it's Shakespeare, 0:17:31.480 --> 0:17:32.240 That's what I'm saying. 0:17:32.280 --> 0:17:34.400 Like I expected that. I was like, okay, really holding 0:17:34.480 --> 0:17:36.120 in on the fact that he's a really good story too. 0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:37.840 I'm bucking y'all thought this was a good story. You 0:17:37.840 --> 0:17:39.960 sul already know this story. I know the story, but 0:17:40.040 --> 0:17:43.360 he told it. Well, it's just the way the Bible, 0:17:43.920 --> 0:17:47.120 it's just the delivery of it, bro the same damn story. 0:17:47.840 --> 0:17:49.480 We know the story. But I was also looking at 0:17:49.520 --> 0:17:53.760 it from her perspective. She heard. She was like, She's like, okay, 0:17:54.440 --> 0:17:59.200 all right, out man, this is good. I was checked 0:17:59.200 --> 0:18:01.320 out the second I here, complaining she had that burling 0:18:01.400 --> 0:18:03.520 on her arm. I told you that, oh man, this 0:18:03.640 --> 0:18:06.800 was a good scene. Man, I really like this, and 0:18:07.480 --> 0:18:10.159 it hit harder, like because I really did not know 0:18:10.240 --> 0:18:15.560 he was Shakespeare. I didn't, uh, but no, I really 0:18:15.600 --> 0:18:17.520 liked this scene. So you liked the scene. Yeah, yeah, 0:18:17.520 --> 0:18:20.360 I thought because because because I knew the story. Yeah. 0:18:20.440 --> 0:18:22.679 Yeah, So I was like when he started, I was like, 0:18:22.880 --> 0:18:26.240 all right, well, because I honestly I was like, well, 0:18:26.280 --> 0:18:28.359 she had to hear the story too. Yeah, you know, 0:18:28.880 --> 0:18:31.080 I think I was like, you done hurt this ship. So, 0:18:31.520 --> 0:18:32.879 you know, I thought she was just called. 0:18:32.800 --> 0:18:33.320 Up in the ways. 0:18:33.520 --> 0:18:38.680 It's almost like like remake, right, he was like, hey, man, 0:18:38.760 --> 0:18:41.280 some such and such that song, but damn the way 0:18:41.320 --> 0:18:41.800 you say. 0:18:41.720 --> 0:18:46.440 This, all that one held that ship. That's how I was, man, 0:18:46.720 --> 0:18:48.959 I'm telling you, Mike. And she was caught up. She 0:18:49.040 --> 0:18:51.320 would the rest because she's lame too. She would in 0:18:51.359 --> 0:18:55.000 the rest of the movie. Yeah, she was so yeah, 0:18:55.720 --> 0:18:58.680 oh yeah, yeah, they abruptly had Now yeah, it's sex 0:18:58.880 --> 0:19:04.199 like at some point. But anyway, I'm losing my. 0:19:04.359 --> 0:19:06.480 Dog and a witch in the fucking on the table. 0:19:06.280 --> 0:19:06.800 Yeah, in the bar. 0:19:07.000 --> 0:19:12.920 Yeah, she didn't get Wait a minute, I've never robbed 0:19:13.119 --> 0:19:16.680 the witch on the second day, No, I never. 0:19:19.560 --> 0:19:20.119 She was a witch. 0:19:20.359 --> 0:19:26.639 Right, you found out afterwards, I'm in trouble now, you 0:19:26.640 --> 0:19:29.680 don't know that witches that little. 0:19:29.400 --> 0:19:33.280 Saying let's come on yup. Oh my god. Anyway, Agnes 0:19:33.560 --> 0:19:36.919 predicts William's future by holding his hand at his thumbs 0:19:37.000 --> 0:19:40.320 or whatever for telling the successful future for him and 0:19:40.440 --> 0:19:44.320 two children at her bedside, and that's where they you know, 0:19:44.600 --> 0:19:49.080 they consummate their relationship and pregnating Agnes, leading her UH 0:19:49.200 --> 0:19:51.360 family to just own her and forcing her to move 0:19:51.400 --> 0:19:55.760 into move in with William Uh to marry. Agnes gives 0:19:55.760 --> 0:19:58.760 birth to Susannah in the woods. So we already kind 0:19:58.800 --> 0:20:01.159 of talked about most of this stuff. Any of this 0:20:01.359 --> 0:20:05.760 stood out to y'all, like her having the preminisions for him, 0:20:06.119 --> 0:20:09.320 you know, her having to move in. How did y'all 0:20:09.320 --> 0:20:10.720 feel about this at this point? 0:20:10.760 --> 0:20:13.040 Well, that's definitely some old school ship you get. You 0:20:13.119 --> 0:20:15.879 get a girl prednant and ship like that, then all 0:20:15.880 --> 0:20:18.639 of a sudden that's your wife, you know. But I 0:20:18.680 --> 0:20:23.680 ain't gonna lie Spike. She ran some good game on him, though. Yeah, 0:20:23.720 --> 0:20:25.920 when she told us that we're gonna have two kids, 0:20:26.000 --> 0:20:29.320 she ran the whole game on it. He bought that ship, 0:20:29.400 --> 0:20:30.760 hook line and sinker. 0:20:31.119 --> 0:20:33.200 He did didn't she have She had a baby in 0:20:33.240 --> 0:20:35.520 the woods, right, that was her? Yeah, yes, and then 0:20:35.520 --> 0:20:36.760 she had two babies. 0:20:36.920 --> 0:20:38.840 Yeah, that was inside. I hadn't gotten there yet though. 0:20:38.960 --> 0:20:42.239 And then she had the one baby. So why are 0:20:42.280 --> 0:20:46.520 you like she said it was a baby that already 0:20:47.080 --> 0:20:49.320 she had one kid. She was out there with the hawks. 0:20:49.320 --> 0:20:49.880 She had a kid. 0:20:49.960 --> 0:20:52.440 No, No, that was just she didn't have no kids. 0:20:52.760 --> 0:20:54.720 That was just the bird. It was a bird. And 0:20:55.440 --> 0:20:57.280 she was there. She was there with with the family. 0:20:57.320 --> 0:20:59.000 That was That was just okay. So I thought one 0:20:59.000 --> 0:21:00.480 of them that was not her kids. That's my mom 0:21:01.000 --> 0:21:04.760 at least. I don't think it was out in the streets. 0:21:05.280 --> 0:21:09.399 She might have been. It wasn't anybody else, any of 0:21:09.400 --> 0:21:13.000 these nothing. No, yeah, I guess y'all kind of already 0:21:13.119 --> 0:21:15.239 allude to how y'all felt about the birth. Did you 0:21:15.280 --> 0:21:17.800 have anything? Can positive? More positive? Said? 0:21:17.840 --> 0:21:21.520 But no, Yeah, like I said, I like that she 0:21:21.720 --> 0:21:24.120 kind of, you know, foreshadow what was going to happen. Again, 0:21:24.160 --> 0:21:26.880 I think there's this idea that she's a witch. She's 0:21:26.920 --> 0:21:29.720 having this premonition, she's doing all this funky ship. She 0:21:29.840 --> 0:21:32.240 definitely got him bewitched and caught up because the first 0:21:32.640 --> 0:21:36.199 first time he laid eyes on her, he was hooked, 0:21:36.720 --> 0:21:39.080