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Speaker 1: It's a Hammer Nigel Show. My name is Nigel. Jason

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Speaker 1: Hammer is here. Details and coverage are scant when we're

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Speaker 1: talking about this shooting at the Dallas Ice facility earlier

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Speaker 1: in the week, except for at Breitbart where we're going

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Speaker 1: to be speaking with Breitbart Border experts Bob Price. Bob,

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Speaker 1: how are you man?

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Speaker 2: Well? Doing great? It's been a hectic week down here

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Speaker 2: in Texas. You know, we wake up Monday morning and

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Speaker 2: find out that the ICE facility in Dallas where there

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Speaker 2: was just a bomb threat just a couple of weeks earlier.

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Speaker 1: I was going to say, that's the same place.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly the same place where the bomb threat was

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Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago, and then not very far

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Speaker 2: from where the shooting was a couple of months ago,

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Speaker 2: where an ICE agent was actually shot by a group

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Speaker 2: of Antifa thugs that decided to show up and ambush

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Speaker 1: Well, before we get into what happened, are these kinds

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Speaker 1: of things these facilities not just in Texas. Is this

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Speaker 1: happening across.

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Speaker 2: The country to various levels. It is happening across the country,

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Speaker 2: particularly in the Pacific Northwest. You're seeing a lot of attacks,

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Speaker 2: attacks on ice agents nationwide are up. According to Todd Lyons,

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Speaker 2: the acting Director of ICE, they're up by about seven

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Speaker 2: hundred to one thousand percent, depending on whose statue look at.

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Speaker 2: It's very concerning and in these officers and agents, you know,

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Speaker 2: the enforcement Removal Operations officers or HSI special agents, They're

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Speaker 2: putting their lives at risk to go out and carry

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Speaker 2: out this mission to enforce the laws that were legally

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Speaker 2: passed by Congress, just like any other law enforcement officer

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Speaker 3: Bob Jason Hammer here and before we get into the

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Speaker 3: weeds of this specific attack here, just for the sake

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Speaker 3: of our audience here in Indianapolis, I'm fascinated with the

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Speaker 3: breakdown of the way people in Dallas view law enforcement

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Speaker 3: because it feels like we've had a number of these

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Speaker 3: stories you just mentioned a couple of different things from

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Speaker 3: that same facility. I go back a number of years ago,

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Speaker 3: there was that horrific shooting of multiple police officers in Dallas.

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Speaker 3: What's the community feel like the community relationship with law

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Speaker 2: Well after that incident in July twenty sixteen, was it

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Speaker 2: maybe when of the four Dallas police officers were murdered.

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Speaker 2: I was actually watching Fox News Live that night when

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Speaker 2: Bart News, and I jumped on the story immediately. We

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Speaker 2: Fox News had figured out what was going on on

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Speaker 2: their own TV screen. But it was a horrific shooting.

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Speaker 2: There where another sniper, if you will, took open fire

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Speaker 2: on the police officers in the crowd and it was

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Speaker 2: during a Black Lives Matter protest and killed four of them.

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Speaker 2: And it just so happened that this guy was someone

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Speaker 2: who I had encountered about a year earlier, had a

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Speaker 2: Sandra Bland protest. I don't know if your listeners know

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Speaker 2: who Sandra Bland is. She was a lady that committed

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Speaker 2: suicide in jail after being stopped by a Texas DPS

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Speaker 2: But he was actually there with the New Black Panthers

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Speaker 2: that is and then I go, I know that guy

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Speaker 2: I was. I was standing two feet in front of

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Speaker 2: but the Dallas people, you know, they they have a

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Speaker 2: was trying to model himself after the thug that killed, yeah,

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Speaker 2: and was just randomly spraying bullets into this ice facility

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Speaker 2: very bad situation. Fortunately nobody else was hurt in this process,

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Speaker 1: Bob Price. What exactly is this facility in Dallas? Is

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Speaker 1: this a detention one of those detention facilities you hear about,

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Speaker 2: The multi use facility. It's the administrative offices of the

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Speaker 2: and I believe HSI has their offices there as well.

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Speaker 2: It's a place where people that are going through the

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Speaker 2: you know, there's probably a facility like this in just

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Speaker 3: And Bob, I see a lot of the blame game

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Speaker 3: happening right now. You see jd Vance go publicly saying,

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Speaker 3: blames the radical left for all their rhetoric leading up

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Speaker 3: Sellers on CNN saying, wait a minute, it wasn't ICE

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Speaker 3: agents that were shot, it was detained ease. So that's

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Speaker 3: not radical left terror them here.

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Speaker 1: Who's right Governor Pritzk using the word gestapo, right.

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Speaker 2: Well, and that's part of the problem is these these

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Speaker 2: remember what the Gestapo actually did during World War Two?

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Speaker 3: I mean, nobody opens a history book.

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Speaker 2: Nobody does absolutely, And so this guy took the time

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Speaker 2: to me like somebody that is a radical leftist, anti

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Speaker 1: And why I keep hearing about ICE agents and masks,

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Speaker 1: Why do they want to unmask the ICE agents? It's

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Speaker 2: Well, I would ask Governor k Newsom, why when a

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Speaker 1: And it's some of the way these stories that you

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Speaker 1: are and how they're positioned, like the do you have

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Speaker 1: any background on that that? Do you know about that

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Speaker 1: five year old autistic girl she was being used as

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Speaker 2: About another distortion of facts. It's another It's the case

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Speaker 2: on Zerrus XM, and it's they follow this guy home,

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Speaker 2: his daughter's in the car, he stops, he runs into

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Speaker 2: the same thing that would happen if a police officer

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Speaker 3: Bob's here before we let you go. Bob Bryce is

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Speaker 3: our guest. He's the border associate editor for Breitbart Bob

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Speaker 3: a different subject here, but I know Kamala Harris is

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Speaker 2: Well, ICE is definitely winning the fight and they're taking

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Speaker 2: under the mortars are Tom Homan, are doing an incredible job.

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Speaker 2: It never seen anything like it. But for her to

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Speaker 2: What about all these different things that the Trump administration

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Speaker 1: Always fantastic work at Breitbart dot com is where you

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Speaker 1: could find everything from their Texas Border Associate editor Bob Price. Bob,

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Speaker 1: have a great weekend and we'll talk to you soon.

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Speaker 2: Thanks appreciate it and look forward talking to you next time.

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Speaker 2: Bye bye,