1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:02,599 Speaker 1: So the Hammer Nigel Show. My name is Nigel, Jason 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: Hammer right over there. One of my favorite things the 3 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: Democrats are freaking out about liberal heads spinning morning Joe 4 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: is almost gagging on his coffee. Is the big, beautiful 5 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: ballroom that Donald Trump is adding on to the White House. 6 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: They keep on showing these pictures of just it looks 7 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: like the whole White House has been demolished, when in 8 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 1: all reality, they're just remodeling. 9 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 2: It's like that same Independence Day, but they're making it 10 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 2: look like it's real. 11 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: Right, We're gonna go to the hotline and bring on 12 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: Breitbart News Senior editor at Large Rebecca Manster, who has 13 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 1: written the definitive history on White House renovations at Breitbart 14 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: dot com. Rebecca, first of all, how are you doing? 15 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: And tell us a little bit an overview about the article. 16 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 3: Well, I'm surviving the assault on our democracy. He's remodeling 17 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 3: the White House. You know tragically that Donald Trump is 18 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:07,919 Speaker 3: giving the American people a ballroom. And I say giving 19 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 3: because we're not paying for this, folks. No taxpayer dollars 20 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 3: are being funded for any of this. Is it just? 21 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: I know he's paying for it, but there are there 22 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: other entities throwing in money as well. 23 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's got got donors, Like people donated it to 24 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:30,759 Speaker 3: the construction of this thing, which, by the way, happens 25 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 3: with most of the remodelings that happened since, like the big, 26 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 3: big one in nineteen fifty two when they had to 27 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 3: really regut and completely redo the entire residency. So tell 28 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,960 Speaker 3: me the Harry Truman administration, but all the other ones 29 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 3: has pretty much been donor you know, donor give the money. 30 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: Got you? Before we get kind of into the weeds 31 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: and the history the president, could you like, what does 32 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: this ballroom? What will it add besides purely being the 33 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: function of a ballroom, like compared to what they use 34 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: now at the White House. In other words, why did 35 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: it need a ballroom? In Donald Trump's eyes. 36 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 3: We don't really have a great venue for state dinners, 37 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:15,399 Speaker 3: for big state functions. They're all kind of cramped in 38 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 3: the current state you know, dining room area, it's pretty small, 39 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 3: it's kind of crampy. 40 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:23,079 Speaker 1: If you go outside, they're like tents. It's like you're 41 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 1: at a wedding sometimes. 42 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 3: Exactly, they're like in these you know, Donald Trump used 43 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 3: a term for them that I can't use on radio 44 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 3: to describe what they look like. But they're they're the 45 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 3: kind let's just say a euphemism, they're crappy little tents, okay. 46 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 3: And so he said, look, you know, we're a great nation. 47 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 3: A great nation should have a you know, a state 48 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 3: dining room, state ballroom that is commiserate with our status. 49 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 3: And so that's what this is. When it's replacing the 50 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 3: it's replacing the current East Wing of the White House, 51 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 3: which is wait for it, and the current East Wing 52 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 3: of the White House is the same age as Joe Biden. 53 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 4: It's seventies. Wow, I didn't know it was that old. 54 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 3: I mean to be clear, though I know that Joe 55 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 3: Biden seems like he's two hundred years old, he's actually 56 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 3: just eighty three years old. And that was when the 57 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 3: current White House was built. The East Wing, excuse me, 58 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 3: of the White House was built in nineteen forty two 59 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 3: during World War Two because FDR wanted to remodel because 60 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 3: they were building eight an emergency bomb shelter underneath the 61 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 3: East Wing, and so they gutted the whole thing and 62 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 3: remodeled it. Okay, what is currently what this ballroom of 63 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 3: places is basically the first lady's offices. Just the office 64 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 3: suite and the visitor entrance. That's pretty much. That's it. 65 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 4: And Rebecca, the. 66 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 2: Thing that cracks me up, Rebecca, the thing that cracks 67 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 2: me up is I see all these people on social 68 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 2: media going. He needs to understand this is the people's house, 69 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 2: not his house, like he's going to take it with 70 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 2: him when his term is over. This is something that's 71 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 2: going to be there for a long time that no 72 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 2: matter whether you're a Republican or a Democrat president, you'll 73 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 2: be able to use this. 74 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 4: And it didn't cost any taxpayer money. 75 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 3: Exactly. Everybody will be able to enjoy this. Everybody that's 76 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 3: listening to your radio show right now will be able 77 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 3: to tour this ballroom. Eventually when the White House tours, 78 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 3: you know, open up again. Everybody people listening to this 79 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 3: broadcast right now will dance on that ballroom. I'm sure 80 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 3: you know some people. So yeah, the whole the American 81 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:40,919 Speaker 3: people will be able to enjoy this. He's improving the 82 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 3: property and he's giving it something that it really does need. 83 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 3: And it's actually an objectively beautiful looking ballroom, okay, and 84 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 3: it's replacing office suite. It's just like in office suite 85 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 3: for the first Lady. She keeps. Give this quote from 86 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 3: Betty Ford where she said, like, the East Wing is 87 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 3: the heart of the White House. This quote that they're 88 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 3: like saying, I'm morning Joe and everything. What she was 89 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:06,559 Speaker 3: talking about is the east wing is where the first 90 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 3: Lady is. The west wing he would say the west 91 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 3: wing is the brains of the operation, but the east 92 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 3: wing is the heart. That just means that the west 93 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 3: wing is where the actual you know, White House staff 94 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 3: is for the president. The east wing was where the 95 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 3: First Lady's staff is. She's saying, I'm the heart, he's 96 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 3: the brain. It wasn't the building itself that was anything special, 97 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 3: and it's not really. It was built during World War Two. 98 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 3: Don't cover a bomb shelter, that's it. 99 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 2: And which wing had the cocaine? And Rebecca, can we 100 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 2: go we to put that out there, which wing was 101 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 2: the cocaine found that it was a situation. 102 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 3: Really cocaine was definitely found And yeah in the west wing. 103 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 4: Okay, you know. 104 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 3: You make a good point there, though. Can I just 105 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 3: say that this idea that you know, he's defiling the 106 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 3: White House, that building has been defiled so many different 107 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 3: ways of the last twenty. 108 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 2: Five years, Bill Clinton had like an advert founder of 109 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 2: the ways he was defiled in the White House, Like 110 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 2: he had a new different way every single day for 111 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 2: a month leading up to Christmas, he would defile the 112 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 2: White House first. 113 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 3: I mean, I could tell you some stories even going 114 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 3: way back, like the time when Andrew Jackson had like 115 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 3: this drunken hoot nanny in the White House. She invited 116 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 3: like the entire populace of DC to join him, and 117 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 3: like they were like, you know, vomiting on the furniture 118 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 3: and stuff. You're a ranger at the White House, you know, 119 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 3: Like the servants had to like bring this spiked punch 120 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 3: and like ice cream out into the lawn because they 121 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 3: were trying to get people out of the house who 122 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 3: they were wrecking it. 123 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 1: Andrew Jackson, Man, that sounds like a guy I want 124 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:46,679 Speaker 1: to party with Rebecca. 125 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna lie. I kind of want to have 126 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,799 Speaker 4: another drunken hoot nanny at the White House. You've sold 127 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 4: me on it. Actually, you know, well. 128 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 3: You kind of imagine that Donald Trump, who likes you know, 129 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 3: y MCA is his campaign song, he might want to 130 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:02,919 Speaker 3: invite the whole country to like join him in that 131 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 3: ballroom when it's finished, you know. 132 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: And of course Rebecca man Sewer from Bright Barton News 133 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: wrote the again I called it the definitive history on 134 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: White House renovations. I mean, obviously there's president for a 135 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: precedent for renovations of the White House. What in recent 136 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: memory can you talk about Obama, Biden, George Bush, anybody 137 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: like that. I mean, I think there was a basketball 138 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: court or something with Obama. 139 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, they did little things they did, you know, 140 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 3: mostly cosmetic things, and the things that they added were 141 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 3: for their own amusement, Like you know, the swimming pool 142 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 3: that JFK really liked. That's actually that was FDR swimming 143 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 3: pool that he added. And then Nixon turned that swimming pool, 144 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 3: did indoor swimming pool into like the White House press 145 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 3: briefing room. So essentially debauchery and horroring still happens in 146 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 3: that room, right right, So that which is nice, and 147 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 3: you know, and then Ford built an outdoor swim pool. 148 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 3: You know, Jimmy Carter put in solar panels, and then 149 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 3: Ronald Reagan took them out, met Obama put them back 150 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 3: in because of course, you know, just like cos medicans. 151 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 3: But to keep in mind guys. The big like just 152 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 3: building itself, the structure. The only thing that is original 153 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 3: in it that dates back to John Adams, who was 154 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 3: the first president to occupy the White House, is the 155 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 3: outside stones of it, just in some of them, not 156 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:29,239 Speaker 3: even all of the sandstone exterior, because the whole building 157 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 3: has been gutted so many times. It was burned down it, 158 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 3: you know, the last time it was completely redone was 159 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 3: in nineteen fifty two because it was structurally unsound. Like 160 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 3: Harry Truman, his daughter's piano cracks through the floor of 161 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 3: her sitting room and into the ceiling of the of 162 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 3: the dining room, and so they were like, oh, we 163 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 3: got to investigate, and they discovered that the building is 164 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 3: structurally unsound, and so they gutted the entire residence literally 165 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:55,839 Speaker 3: soup to nuts, the whole thing. You know, you can 166 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 3: go and look at the pictures that are on my 167 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 3: article it. You know. So the building itself, the residence, 168 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 3: which is the oldest you know, part of this literally 169 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:09,839 Speaker 3: is younger than Nancy Pelosi. It is literally seventy three 170 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 3: years old. Because that renovation was a complete restructuring. None 171 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,559 Speaker 3: of the floorboards in there really were ever touched by 172 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 3: you know, any president before Harry Truman, essentially because they're 173 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 3: remodeled the whole. 174 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 4: Right, Rebecca, real quick, We got a couple of minutes lefts. 175 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:25,199 Speaker 4: Let me jump in here real quick, Rebecca. 176 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 2: We're speaking with Rebecca Manser of Breitbart talking about why 177 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 2: people are freaking out that renovations are taking place at 178 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 2: the White House. Million dollar question. Why are people freaking out? 179 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 2: Is it simply it matter that it's Donald Trump doing this? 180 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 2: Had this been another Republican president, had this been Bush 181 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 2: or Reagan doing this project, or a Democrat or a 182 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 2: Democrat for that matter, do you think you'd see Morning 183 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 2: Joe's Undy's getting in a bunch and people freaking out 184 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 2: on social media. 185 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 3: I'm going to say something so bipartisan. You guys are 186 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 3: going to be shocked. If this were any other It's 187 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 3: just we're a Democrat represident president. They would be trashing 188 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 3: him on Fox and Friends. Because he's a Republican president. 189 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 3: They're trashing him on Morning Joe. Every single White House 190 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 3: renovation has been trashed, has been denounced, has been politicized. 191 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 3: It's just the nature of Washington, DC. And guess what, 192 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 3: after the dust settles and the renovation is cleared and 193 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 3: all that. Everybody loves what was done. It's always the same. 194 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: Literally, who died Trump hire to build the big beautiful ballroom? 195 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 1: Did he have a bidding process? 196 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 3: The Actually the man that designed it is a professor 197 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 3: of architecture at Catholic University right there in Washington. And 198 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 3: he has this particular architect and I believe he's lessing 199 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:50,239 Speaker 3: is a McCreary. He has love of traditional style of architecture. 200 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 3: That's why it has this beautiful classical feel. It looks 201 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 3: like something out of the Gilded Age. It's going to 202 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 3: be lovely. It's gonna beautiful. And by the way, Donald 203 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 3: Trump is the one man out of everybody, the only 204 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 3: thing that you can really definitively, definitively say that this 205 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 3: man is an expert in is restoring historic buildings and 206 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 3: building ballrooms. This he's literally world famous for historical preservation 207 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 3: and renovation and building ballrooms. So this guy is going 208 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 3: to do a great job. You know, it's what he does. 209 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:23,319 Speaker 1: What a fascinating topic. In article at ritbart dot com, 210 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: you can find it right now. Speaking with Breitbart News 211 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: Senior editor at Large Rebecca Mansour, Trump's Big Beautiful Ballroom 212 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: is a gift for America in the best tradition of 213 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: his predecessors. Is the name of the article, Rebecca, Fascinating stuff. 214 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 1: You do, great work. We always love having you here 215 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: in Indy on the Hammer and Nigel Show, and I 216 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:47,959 Speaker 1: hope you have an awesome weekend.