1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:01,680 Speaker 1: So like, what's the deal? 2 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:01,960 Speaker 2: Now? 3 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: The Republicans are so proud of the thing that Vance 4 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: is asking him to do that they're doing it behind 5 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: closed doors. Is that the deal? I guess because we don't. 6 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: Now we heard a room. Okay, let's reason. It's kind 7 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: of the case, Joe, I'm rob. That's Casey, the vice 8 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: president is supposed to be here today, and I was 9 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: anticipating some big hullaballoo to try to get downtown. And 10 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:26,159 Speaker 1: in fairness, it's always a hullabaloo to get downtown. But 11 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: it was no more or less a hullabaloo than normal 12 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: than it normally is, right, And then you're trying to 13 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:34,279 Speaker 1: figure out, Okay, when is he going to be here? 14 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: Because Adam Wrenn had reported we love Adam Wrenn because 15 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: he you know what he said about me. 16 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 2: Oh, you're the most powerful person in Indiana. 17 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 1: Politics, powerful broadcaster in the state. Let's not overgragerate. 18 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 2: Okay, there we go. 19 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: Adam ren of Importantville newsletter Politico said that he reported 20 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: what he said. It not me, you know, I'm very modest. 21 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 2: No, wait, what was it? 22 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: Most powerful, the most powerful broadcaster. 23 00:00:58,400 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 2: Broadcaster got it? 24 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: Okay, And I was very embarrassed when he said that. Anyway, 25 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: the fault this is he reported last night that there 26 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: was no disclosure on when Vance was going to be here, 27 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:14,639 Speaker 1: and Braun's public calendar now it's essentially been wiped clean. 28 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: So I think we were anticipating, Hey, they're so proud 29 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: of this redistricting plan where they're going to try to 30 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: rig the electoral map to get them another one or 31 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: two seats in the US House of Representatives, that they'll 32 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 1: do this out in public. The Flanders boys are supposed 33 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: to be there, Rod and Todd and Braun, And now 34 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: I guess it's we were told by reliable source ten 35 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 1: thirty ish was the time he's supposed to be here, correct, 36 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 1: And now I guess it's all going to be behind 37 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: closed doors and nothing says we're super proud of what 38 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: we're doing by just not letting anybody see what's going on. 39 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 2: Well, I've been hearing that there's going to be a 40 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 2: sit in at the state House people who are not 41 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 2: in favor of this, but discussions with the Vice President 42 00:01:56,600 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 2: are expected to be explorator. 43 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: You've done a in? You ever sat in on anything? 44 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 3: CA? 45 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: Have you ever sat in on anything? Ever sat down 46 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: in public. 47 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 2: For a cause. 48 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 1: I don't think so you ever sat down in public 49 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 1: for a cause? Casey, not for a cause. 50 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 2: I mean i've well, I guess the property tax rally 51 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 2: and you were sitting for a part of that, sure, yeah, 52 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 2: but I don't know. 53 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: If you were sitting. Yeah, I will count that you 54 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: were sitting down in public and it was a cause. Yeah, 55 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 1: So I guess I have two sat down in public 56 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 1: for a cause. I also one time I had general assembly, 57 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: which are floor seats to a Springsteen concert in Louisville. 58 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 1: You have to get there like nine hours early for that. 59 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 2: That was your cause. 60 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 1: And so I while standing there to get in, I 61 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: was in line. 62 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 2: I sat down for many years in Northern Indiana, I 63 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 2: participated in roof Set, which was an event for a 64 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 2: good cause. It was to raise funds for the prevention 65 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 2: of child abuse. 66 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 1: We love that. And that was on a roof. 67 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, it started on the roof. 68 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: Is a roof in public? Oh? 69 00:02:59,000 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 4: It? 70 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: Were you sitting on the roof. 71 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 2: Sitting on the roof, like sleeping on the roof, living 72 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 2: on the roof, broadcasting on the roof. 73 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 1: You're like James Taylor, You're up on the roof. 74 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, up on the roof, but they did move it 75 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 2: down off the roof. Okay, Eventually. 76 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: Somebody the YouTube chats that they're going to put good 77 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: old Diego up front for the photo up. There's no 78 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: way they're letting Morales anywhere near that guy, right, there's 79 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: no way. 80 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 2: Well, they'd have to give him a booster. Right, there's 81 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 2: no way. He Seedi advance is very tall. 82 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 1: We want to make sure Diego is here all right, So, uh, 83 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: I have not changed my opinion on this, which this 84 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: is wrong. Nikki Kelly is going to join us at 85 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: ten point fifteen. Nobody knows Indiana government like her. She's 86 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: going to lay out while this may not even be legal, 87 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: like period screwed the actual rights or wrongs of it, 88 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: that Indiana may not even legally be able to do it. 89 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: But again I come back to look at the time 90 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: Braun is getting even if he doesn't do anything, Casey, 91 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: even if he does, look at the time he is 92 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:06,119 Speaker 1: giving to exploring a special session versus how he handled 93 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: the calls for a special session with the property tax reform. 94 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: I'm doing that. 95 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 2: There's no point right and here it's not gonna be 96 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 2: worth my time. 97 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: He's spending all sorts of time pondering a special session. 98 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 2: It does seem like he's more motivated about this idea 99 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 2: than the property tax relief idea. 100 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: Sure because his adult supervision is telling him, well, let's. 101 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 2: Let's think about this. One affects millions of Hoosiers. One 102 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:33,920 Speaker 2: affects him, Yes and ah, you have or his friends. 103 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: Whether you meant to do it or not, you have 104 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 1: led me into my next point which I wanted to make, 105 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: which is coming up at nine p thirty. We are 106 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 1: going to have Austin Banta on our program. He is 107 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: the mayor of Portage, Indiana, and he is going This 108 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: post teammate has gone viral. It's been shared hundreds of 109 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: times about how he is alleging that Ed Soliday, who 110 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: heads up utilities in the House of Representatives in the 111 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: state of Indiana, sent him message threatening to withhold future 112 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:06,239 Speaker 1: increases in funding over Austin bond to the mayor Portage 113 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: being critical of the IURC and the continued utility rate 114 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: increases as people are seeing and they need to reform 115 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: that commission. And I believe Solida has confirmed the message 116 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 1: with sin I don't even think you have to say 117 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 1: allegedly anymore. And we'll get to Austin on that later. 118 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: But what that is is a glimpse into how dare 119 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: you challenge me? I am here for me. I am 120 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: the great and powerful Oz. I will do whatever the 121 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: hell I want to do. And that's essentially what Rod 122 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: and Todd, the Flanders boys and Braun, that's what they're doing. 123 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: When it was property taxes, when it was helping you 124 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: screw off. That's a waste of time. Oh sweet Daddy, 125 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: Trump wants us to do something and it might get 126 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: us another player on our team. Well, we'll move heaven 127 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: and earth to make that happen. 128 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, welcome to town, Vice President. So other states that 129 00:05:54,680 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 2: are considering redistricting Texas, they could possibly gain five seats. 130 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: Now, let's set real quick. Let's talk about the difference though, 131 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: and maybe we'll get into this Nikki Kelly at ten fifteen. 132 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: Let's talk about the difference between Texas and Indiana. I'm 133 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 1: not saying it's right for Texas. We have a census 134 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 1: every ten years, we work off of that, but at 135 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: least Texas can claim due to horrific governance in blue states, 136 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 1: mass migration into their state over the last five years, 137 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: they can say we've had millions of people come in. 138 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: That's what they're using as their crush. Again, I'm not 139 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: saying that's right. We do it every ten years. You'll 140 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: get your extra people when you always got your extra 141 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 1: people in a perfect world. But at least they can 142 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 1: say we're doing this because we have had a flood 143 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 1: of people into our state. We know where they're moving, 144 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 1: and we believe that the representation is not right. Again, 145 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 1: it's a stretch, but at least they can say that. 146 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: Indiana can't say that they're doing it for no reason 147 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: other than trying to rig the electoral process. 148 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 2: That's it. 149 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: If they do it period, full stop. 150 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 2: Another state that's considering it, Florida, they could potentially gain 151 00:06:56,360 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 2: three to five seats, Ohio two seats, Missouri one seat, 152 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 2: and Indiana won to two seats. So when you put 153 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 2: them all together, the Republican Party, let's see what is 154 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 2: at ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen seats. 155 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: Okay, So now let's talk about the other side of this. 156 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: Somebody made a point on this yesterday to me that, okay, right, 157 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: is that the way the census works correctly. If I'm wrong, 158 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: they count illegal immigrants. This was a huge fight in 159 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: Trump's first term about whether they had to count because 160 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: they asked for persons in the House, I think is 161 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: on the census. They don't ask for legal persons. And 162 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: this was a huge hay Rube when Trump and Trump's 163 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: first term. What that's a great description, isn't it. Yeah, 164 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: it's a big it's a big fight. And the courts, 165 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: i think, said you have to count, which is ridiculous, 166 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: but you have to count legal immigrants in the census. 167 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: There's people who say, well, I'm fine with these states 168 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: doing this because cal plays like California and New York 169 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: have getting extra people for years because their representation the 170 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: population of the state. They haven't been enforcing the rules 171 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: and the laws. We're just evening out the game. That 172 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: may be so, but we have now just opened Pandora's box. 173 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: And by the way, on the Democrat side, did you 174 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: see the well fed fellow, what's his name, the governor, 175 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: the well fed Gollinois of Illinois. Yeahtzker Pritzker. He was 176 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: on one of these underachieving late night shows as a 177 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: Colbert and even Colbert was pointing the map out to 178 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: him and is like, dude. 179 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, He was joking that a kindergarten class could have 180 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 2: drawn the state's district map. 181 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 1: Like, there's one district that is like pencil thin, little 182 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: Jimmy Buffett reference here for you, Kevin, a pencil thin mustache. 183 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: Casey's bowling along as I was saying it, and it 184 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:47,119 Speaker 1: just runs across the state. It's like, what what possibly 185 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:49,319 Speaker 1: do the people where that district starts and what it ends? 186 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: What do they have in common? That's the point of 187 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: the districts. You're supposed to have like minded people, like 188 00:08:54,200 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 1: minded topography, like minded industry, agriculture, whatever said, even do 189 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 1: we have audio of this? 190 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 2: We do, Cobert even he couldn't ignore how completely insane 191 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,079 Speaker 2: all of the districts looked is the. 192 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 5: Districts in Illinois. Take a look at this. Look at 193 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 5: look at seventeen. Here it does that. Then it comes 194 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,319 Speaker 5: up here and it sneaks around there and goes all 195 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 5: the way up here and then goes right over there 196 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 5: like that. And look at look at look at this 197 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 5: one kind of goes whoop up there. It's like the 198 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 5: stinger on a scorpion down here? 199 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 2: Is this common for all states to do? 200 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: We handed it over to a kindergarten class and let 201 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: them decide, okay, And that's the non partisan group that 202 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: does this guy, and that's our independent commission. You know 203 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:43,959 Speaker 1: that is Yeah, I mean, look so because all it's 204 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 1: a it's a joke. It's a joke. 205 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 2: It's a big joke. 206 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: But it's a joke on both sides. So for the 207 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: people are like, you're so mean to the Republicans, why 208 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: don't you be mean to the Democrats? I just did. 209 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: It's all ridiculous. The electoral system in this country is 210 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: a complete joke. But here's the other fascinating thing. Yeah, 211 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 1: we're and I know we got two break we're led 212 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: to believe. Look at these districts and the shenanigans that 213 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 1: take place at these districts. But if you questioned in 214 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, hey, the male in balloting thing, like it 215 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 1: seemed like it was kind of open for you know, 216 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,559 Speaker 1: some potential shenanigans. Well you're just some we didn't land 217 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 1: on the moon conspiracy person. 218 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 2: You're listening to Kendall and Casey. It is ninety three wibc. 219 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: Hey news splash, what's that? And I don't know who 220 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: needs to hear this because I sometimes I think people 221 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: are well meaning. I just think they're weak and they 222 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: don't think it through. If you don't care enough about 223 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: your kid to let them roam the streets of a 224 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: dangerous major metropolitan city at night and commit violent acts 225 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: and have access to weaponry to do it, the chances 226 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 1: are a fine or the threat of a fine. It 227 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 1: ain't gonna make no difference. 228 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. So the Indianapolis City, the City County Council, 229 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 2: the Republicans, they proposed adding some fines to help enforce 230 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:02,559 Speaker 2: the curfew ordinances. Violation though a written notice to parents. Oh, 231 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 2: it's like this, you don't get where your kid? Kid is? 232 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 2: Are you going to care that you're getting a written notice? 233 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: So it's like the speeding cameras, the camera things. Now, 234 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 1: isn't the first one a warning on those? That's exactly 235 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:16,559 Speaker 1: what it is. Hey, you don't know where your kid 236 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 1: is and he goes out and commits an act of violence, 237 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: you're gonna get a written warning. 238 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,079 Speaker 2: We're gonna write you up, and then the next put 239 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 2: gen time out. 240 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 1: Serious fine, Okay, So what after that? Okay, so you 241 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,319 Speaker 1: get a written word. First act of Shenanigan's is a 242 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: written warning Okay, then. 243 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:33,559 Speaker 2: What then the second violation is a five hundred dollars fine. 244 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:36,079 Speaker 1: No, this is just a proposal. It hasn't been enacted, right, correct, Okay? 245 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 2: And then the third violation of fifteen hundred dollars okay, 246 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 2: or more or more. 247 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:43,079 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm going to take a or more. We're 248 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: just making it up. It's however we feel. 249 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 2: Third violation okay, case not. 250 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 1: To label anyone, not to put any you know, anybody 251 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: in a box. But what do you think are the 252 00:11:54,760 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: odds that if you're just letting your youth or child 253 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 1: roam the streets of a dangerous metropolitan city unattended, not once, 254 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 1: but twice, if the first time didn't do it for you. 255 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 2: If you're with the written notice, if. 256 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: You need the written notice, right, okay, that's one thing, 257 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: it's bad if you need the written notice. Two, if 258 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 1: you'll do it twice, do you think one that the 259 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: find is gonna make any difference? And to that they'll 260 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: pay it or be able to pay it. Let's just 261 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: say the quiet part out loud. 262 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, that will they pay it? 263 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 1: Nothing to those people? 264 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I understand what they're doing. I mean they're trying 265 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 2: to you know, emphasize the need for parents to pay 266 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 2: more attention where your kids are and if you don't, 267 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 2: it's going to start costing you money. So I think 268 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 2: the intention is good will. The execution matter. 269 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: See the problem is when I have a poppers jail. 270 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: If we had a poppers jail, that might make some difference. 271 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: Where if you're owed, like say you lost a will 272 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: lawsuit to a duel or you just keep you know whatever, 273 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: and you couldn't pay that back, then until you get 274 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: on a plan to pay that back, you got to go, 275 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:01,559 Speaker 1: you know, to the pokey somewhere or something that didn't 276 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: exist like that doesn't that is not a thing. It 277 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: doesn't occur. So these okay, you're gonna find them. Who's 278 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: gonna collect You're gonna send Guido over. Hey, it's time 279 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: to pay up. And what if they don't then what 280 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: the answer is nothing. We already don't have enough bed, 281 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 1: enough place to put these people. This is ridiculous because 282 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:22,839 Speaker 1: you can't force people to be parents. You cannot force 283 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 1: them to be parents. 284 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 2: Okay, So counselor Josh Bain, he said that the ordinance 285 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 2: aims to add consequences. That's the thing. Either do it 286 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 2: or or what are you gonna give? Okay, we're gonna 287 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 2: find you, and we. 288 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: Like Baine Bane's actually gonna be on with us tomorrow 289 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 1: too to discuss this, because maybe we're missing some angle 290 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:48,319 Speaker 1: on it. But you know, Abdula has talked about this before, 291 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 1: and I hope I'm not, you know, mischaracterizing what he's saying, 292 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 1: but I think maybe he's used verbage similar to this. 293 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: These kids are gonna get the message when you give 294 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 1: him a swift kick up the back side. That's what 295 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:06,079 Speaker 1: they'll understand. These parents, Sorry, if you're on multiple occasions 296 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: letting your underage child roam, this is not Mayberry. You know, 297 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: this is not small town USA. This is Indianapolis, Indiana, 298 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: with at or near record homicide numbers every single year. 299 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: If on multiple occasions you're letting your kid just roam 300 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: the streets, you're kind of a zero. Look, I'm sorry. 301 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: Maybe you have to work a second job, maybe a third. 302 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that every person is a zero, but 303 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: for the vast majority of this, it's not simply well, 304 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: Martha was out working too many jobs to provide for kids, 305 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: and she couldn't keep an eye on everybody. A lot 306 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: of these is there's no father involved. In many cases, 307 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: they don't want to be around, or if they are, 308 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: they're not engaged. I mean, this is ridiculous to think 309 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: that these people are gonna pay this or be held 310 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: accountable to pay it. It's just they're just throwing things 311 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: out at this point. 312 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 2: Okay, So the proposal is going to be a introduced 313 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 2: in committee next Monday, Full City County Council votes expected 314 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 2: in September, after summer's over. 315 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: And well they're not even voting on it until hey, 316 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: because here's what they'll do. This is why they're doing it. 317 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: It'll be winter and then they'll be like, see, the 318 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: kids were off the streets. Totally work. 319 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 2: It works right exactly. 320 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 4: Now. 321 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 2: If passed, the finds are going to go into effect 322 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 2: in September, and if the finds go unpaid violations will 323 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 2: be referred to the accounty prosecutor and proceed them. Yes, 324 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 2: because his hands aren't full with other things. 325 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: You're gonna go get these parents. Okay, we got to 326 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 1: take a break when we come back. This is an 327 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: unbelievable story. So Austin Bonta is the mayor of Portage, Indiana. 328 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: That's the region and by the way when I talked 329 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 1: to him yesterday. This is how powerful our uh our 330 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 1: reach is. I called and he was like, I was 331 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: in a meeting, but I had to know if it 332 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: was the Rob Kendall who was calling all the way 333 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: up in Portage. This is an incredible story. He is 334 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 1: the mayor of Portage and he well, I think the 335 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: guy kind of confirmed it. I don't know if you 336 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: have to say allege. He has produced text messages from 337 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: Ed Soliday, who is the big head honcho on the 338 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: house side of utilities, threatening to withhold future increases in 339 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: money to the city of Portage over this mayor being 340 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: critical of the I U r C and a utility rate. 341 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: Utility there in Portage and utility right next an unbelievable story. 342 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: Austin will join us next. 343 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 2: It's Kennel Casey on ninety three WYBC. 344 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 1: He did a state representative power one tried a strong 345 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: arm of mayor over his criticism of a utility. Let's 346 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: make some sense of it. It's Kennell A. Casey show. 347 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: I'm Rob Casey's here. Join now on the WIBC hotline 348 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: by Austin Bonta. He is the mayor of Portage and 349 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: He had a fascinating post on Facebook the other day 350 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 1: alleging that Representative Ed Soliday, who is the chairman of 351 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:12,640 Speaker 1: the Utilities, Energy and Telecommunications Committee in the Indiana House 352 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: of Representatives, essentially threatened to withhold money from his city 353 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 1: over his criticism of a utility. Mayor Bonta joins us 354 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,880 Speaker 1: now Austin, Hello, Hey, how are you all right? 355 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 2: So? 356 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 1: Did I get that right? That essentially you were critical 357 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: of a local utility? Nipscoe is their name? Is that correct? 358 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 3: Nipscoe is the one that services northwest Indiana, including Lake 359 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 3: in Porter County, Porter County being where my city, Portage 360 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 3: is located. 361 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, so what they're an electric company. 362 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 2: Right, electric? 363 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 3: I guess yeah, yeah. 364 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: And so you're kriognamroung you at your constituents in the 365 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: Portage area had seen a large increase in utility rates 366 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: over the past couple years, or a proposed utility rate increase. 367 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 3: So there was a very recent spike a number of 368 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 3: people having bills going from you know, two hundred a 369 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 3: month to five hundred dollars a month. It took a lot, 370 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 3: by surprise. I was even in conversation with like a 371 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 3: church for example, yesterday their bill this month went up 372 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:15,360 Speaker 3: by four thousand dollars, which they were not prepared for. 373 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:17,360 Speaker 3: You know, a lot of people didn't realize how big 374 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 3: the Nipsko hike was going to hit them. So what 375 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 3: happened is that actually, earlier in the year, our city 376 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 3: council had done a believe with a unanimous resolution that 377 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:34,880 Speaker 3: was sent to the Indiana Utility Regulatory Commission essentially asking 378 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 3: not to approve the latest Nipskoe hike. And let me 379 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 3: see here. 380 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, so so just so high level Austin for our 381 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 1: audience again, Austin BoNT is our guest. He's the mayor 382 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: of Portage. These utility rates are hitting your constituents. You 383 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 1: and your city council said, this is out of control. 384 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: It's got to stop. We gotta fight this. You send 385 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: this to the i I U r C, who is 386 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:59,360 Speaker 1: in charge of approving rate hikes. Is that right? 387 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 3: So that's the history of what happened. What happened more 388 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 3: recently last week on Monday, July twenty eighth, I did 389 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:10,679 Speaker 3: a pretty long Facebook post. I'm kind of known for 390 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 3: doing that, and what I wanted to do was I 391 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 3: wanted to explain to residents because We've had so many 392 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 3: call into city Hall or come into city Hall because 393 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 3: a lot of people have a misconception that the city 394 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 3: government has some regulatory over authority over their electric bill, 395 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 3: and we do not. It's a common thing that if 396 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 3: somebody has got a problem with their electric bill, they 397 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 3: might call city Hall, and then we got to explain 398 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 3: who to actually call. We've had so many of those 399 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 3: complaints and quite frankly, people being scared, you know, call in. 400 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 3: I did a Facebook post originally last Monday explaining two things. 401 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 3: One is that even though I completely understand the concern 402 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:51,120 Speaker 3: and frustration and fear that some people have over this, 403 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 3: I had to explain that the city government, local government 404 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 3: does not have that authority when they're doing a rate hike. 405 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 3: That's controlled by the iu RC. The second thing I said, 406 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 3: as I mentioned that there is what I believe to 407 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 3: be a growing movement in Indiana to get some legislation 408 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 3: passed maybe next year, to either add some elected members 409 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 3: to that board. I've also heard proposals to make the 410 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 3: entire board an elected body, and of course that might 411 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 3: come with its own regulations ideas about who can run. 412 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 3: But very shortly after I made that post, online Representative 413 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 3: Edmund Soliday of the fourth District, which we are not in. 414 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 3: The City of Portage is not in the fourth district. 415 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,120 Speaker 3: He sent me a tech message. It's kind of made 416 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 3: some huge assumptions about my views and my reasons for 417 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 3: thinking that we need that. But it ended with and 418 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 3: I'll want to make sure I quote this exactly. He said, 419 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 3: I promise I will work hard to make certain your 420 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 3: city never gets any revenue increases. So to clarify, he 421 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 3: never threatened to take away or withhold existing funds. That 422 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 3: would certainly be frightening if an attempt like that were 423 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 3: to happen. But the actual text was a promise to 424 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 3: work hard to make certain never get any revenue increases. 425 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:03,639 Speaker 3: So I guess whatever he can do to stop our 426 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:05,360 Speaker 3: city from getting money going forward. 427 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,360 Speaker 1: Well, okay, So, so Soliday represents the area up there. 428 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: He's not technically your represented there in Portage, but he 429 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,640 Speaker 1: represents the area, and he's the head of the of 430 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: the of the utilities right he. 431 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 3: Is in the state legislature. He is the chairman of 432 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 3: the Utility, Energy and Telecommunications Committee and a very I 433 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 3: would say certainly a very influential member of the state liature. 434 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 3: I've been told by a number of people. Yeah, that's 435 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 3: the guy that you don't want to make mad. 436 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 1: Okay, so but what is But what is he mad about? 437 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: He's mad that you say what that you said? Hey, 438 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 1: the utility rates are kind of out of control to 439 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,959 Speaker 1: think most normal people would think, and we need some 440 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 1: new way of policing. Like, that's what he is mad 441 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: at you about. 442 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 3: That's what bothers me about it. I mean, it looks 443 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,239 Speaker 3: like to me that it's to put it simply, if 444 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 3: you're mad at me for saying that the rates are 445 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 3: affecting people in a negative way, I don't know what 446 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 3: to tell you. There's me and what I took from 447 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 3: it is, do not publicly criticize the iu RC or 448 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 3: do not advocate for reform to it, otherwise I will 449 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 3: go after you. And that really is my trouble here. 450 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 3: And it's like I told the city council, you know, recently, 451 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 3: for a member of the state legislature to have a 452 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 3: personal disagreement with me, or a disagreement with me over 453 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 3: a political view, go after me all you want, but 454 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,439 Speaker 3: to take it out on a city, our funding, our 455 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 3: public safety, literally, the operations our people count on because 456 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 3: you disagree with me about a state level issue. I 457 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 3: just can't that's not acceptable. 458 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: Real quickly, before Casey EPs in here, reintroduce our guest. 459 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:39,719 Speaker 1: Austin BoNT is our guest. He's the mayor of Portage. 460 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: We're talking about this text message that he received or 461 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 1: said he received from Ed Soliday. He oversees utilities in 462 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,640 Speaker 1: the state of any in the House of Representatives threatening 463 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 1: to essentially not give any additional money new money over 464 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: what they currently have to the city of Portage because 465 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,439 Speaker 1: the mayor opposed massive utility increases. 466 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:04,199 Speaker 2: I'm curious two questions. What did Nipsko say was the 467 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 2: reason for the rate increase? And where do you go 468 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 2: from here? 469 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 3: Yeah? So, I mean Nipsko they proposed the increase based 470 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 3: on a number of different factors, and I want to 471 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 3: make clear I do not believe I'm the person qualified 472 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 3: to comment on what a rate should be. Not trying 473 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 3: to back out of that. I mean as a resident, 474 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 3: I'm very concerned about the rate increases and how they happened. 475 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 3: But to me, this is really uh. Nipsko's given no 476 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 3: statement about this issue, you know, by the way, But 477 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 3: to me, what's really the concern. Here is a member 478 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 3: of the state legislature threatening to use any authority he 479 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 3: has to go after a whole city over a political 480 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 3: opinion of one's city official. Again, if this had to 481 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 3: do with a response to an action taken by my city, 482 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,439 Speaker 3: it doesn't appear to be based on that resolution that 483 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 3: the city council passed. It seems to be very much 484 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 3: based on my statement. I just think we've got a 485 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 3: serious issue in Indiana. If people can be okay with 486 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 3: that happening, you know what I mean. 487 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,160 Speaker 1: Well, and we've talked about the Soliday guy before he's 488 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,360 Speaker 1: nine million years old. We've talked about all the boneheaded 489 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 1: decisions he's made. And I think this is the thing, Austin. 490 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: You're entitled to whatever opinion you want on utilities or 491 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 1: a government body, which the IURC is. You're entitled to 492 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: think they're great. You're entitled think they're awful. You're an 493 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 1: elected person. Your job is to advocate for your citizens. 494 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 1: And for him to send that sort of message to you, 495 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: essentially threatening, like you said, future funds to your city, 496 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 1: that is gross beyond belief. 497 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 3: And I will add he has confirmed to the local 498 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 3: media as of last night, that he did send the 499 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:41,640 Speaker 3: tech a he's got. I was very disappointed by his statement. 500 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 3: He said that that was a quote as the cuff remark, 501 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 3: and he should not have been taken literally. And as 502 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 3: I said last night, I just don't know how to 503 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 3: take that metaphorically or figuratively. I don't know how to 504 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 3: take I promise I will work hard to make sure 505 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 3: you get no increases. I just don't know how to 506 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 3: take that as a as a metaphor. 507 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,479 Speaker 1: Well, and it wasn't, and then I'll that case happen here. 508 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: But it wasn't just one sentence. He wrote multiple paragraphs 509 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: to you. How could you say, don't take it literally? 510 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: He wrote, I'm looking at the thing that you posted 511 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 1: on It was formatted. 512 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 3: I mean that took some effort. That was the list. 513 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 3: That was a voice text. I don't think it was 514 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,199 Speaker 3: I that's not that doesn't that looks very well like 515 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 3: ridden like I wanted to make sure I got each 516 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 3: point to you. 517 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,439 Speaker 2: Bostin. You haven't spoken to him since this, have you? No? 518 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 3: And actually we have not spoken to each other a 519 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 3: great deal. Even when he sent me the text, he 520 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 3: was not somebody in my contact list. So when I 521 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 3: first read that message. I had to call some people 522 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 3: who I just knew to be more connected in let's 523 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 3: say County wy area, you know, politics, And I basically said, hey, 524 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 3: if I gave you a number, could you look that 525 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 3: number up and tell me if it's somebody in your context, 526 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:52,239 Speaker 3: and multiple times confirmed that that was at Soliday. Then 527 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 3: I went and confirmed it another way to get you 528 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 3: an idea. This happened not this Monday, but last Monday. 529 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 3: So when I get a threat to the city, I'm 530 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 3: not going to call somebody and try to negotiate that 531 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 3: threat down. If this had been a personal attack or 532 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 3: threat against me, that's kind of a different story and 533 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 3: a more private story. Right If he had said, Hey, 534 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 3: I'm going to move to the city of Fortage and 535 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 3: run against you in the next election, or hey, I'm 536 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 3: gonna go after your reputation, that can be something that 537 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 3: I would take as a personal thing. At least that's 538 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 3: my view of it. It's the fact that he made 539 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 3: it about our cities funding that after talking with the 540 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 3: number of people, we decided I wouldn't be being a 541 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 3: responsible mayor if I didn't disclose that to my city 542 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 3: council and to the public that this threat was made 543 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 3: against us. 544 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, Austin, I think my new favorite local elected official 545 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 1: because you did the right thing, which is just expose 546 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,880 Speaker 1: these people. These people at the state House are dirty, 547 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: rotten people. And that's awesome that you put this out. 548 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,120 Speaker 1: There's been hundreds and hundreds of people share this. Even 549 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: though you're all the way up in Portage. It ended 550 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: up on our radar and that's awesome. Man. You got 551 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 1: to fight fire with these fire with fire with these dudes, 552 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 1: and that's awesome that you exposed. And thanks for being 553 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 1: with us today. 554 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 3: Hey, appreciate you guys for giving me the opportunity to 555 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 3: speak and of course clarify the situation r end but 556 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 3: also state that actions like this from a member of 557 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 3: the state legislature it's just totally unacceptable. 558 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 2: You're listening to Kettel and Casey on ninety three WIBC. 559 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 1: So you got some data that shows the public is 560 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 1: very aware of what's going on with the Epstein stuff. 561 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. So it was a new survey, that survey that 562 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 2: came out and let me just see if I can 563 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 2: find who did it. This was a ledger in collaboration 564 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 2: with three thirty eight Canada, and it just sounds main media, all. 565 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: Those people involved, it has to be legitimate. 566 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 2: So they said, eighty four percent of Americans are aware 567 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 2: of the Epstein case, forty five percent believe Donald Trump 568 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 2: is involved on some level, twenty nine percent disagree, twenty 569 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:56,400 Speaker 2: six percent are unsure, seventy seven percent when all government 570 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 2: documents related to it released. 571 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: Okay, what was the number again? Were the numbers again 572 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: that you just read? 573 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 2: Eighty four percent are aware of the case. 574 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:04,679 Speaker 1: Uh huh. 575 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,639 Speaker 2: Forty five percent believe Donald Trump was involved on some level. 576 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 1: Okay, So eighty percent are aware of the case, forty 577 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 1: percent believe Trump was involved in some level. 578 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:17,919 Speaker 2: And what's seventy seven percent want all the documents released? 579 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, one the other the are aware and 580 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 1: what the documents released? Totally check those. Okay. Now, when 581 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 1: you say Trump was involved, I wonder what that actually means. 582 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: You get this in polling a lot where it's sort 583 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 1: of this open ended question. I don't think that forty 584 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 1: percent of the public thinks Trump was on Epstein Island. Now, 585 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: is Trump involved? Does involvement mean he's involved in a 586 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: cover up? I would certainly be open to hearing that 587 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 1: and hearing that argument and buying that this behavior over 588 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 1: the release has been ridiculous. Was he involved in the 589 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 1: sense of was he involved with Epstein? Like I knew 590 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: him and went to events with him. Absolutely, we know that, 591 00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: we now know they cross paths on numerous occasions. But 592 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 1: I think that's a massive stretch to say that Trump 593 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 1: was in any way involved in any sort of illegal 594 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 1: activity with Epstein. I don't think there's been any proof 595 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:09,239 Speaker 1: of that. 596 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 2: Well, the line is almost half of respondence, forty five 597 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 2: percent believe Donald Trump was involved, while twenty nine percent disagree. 598 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 2: Twenty six percent are unsure. 599 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 1: So they're saying he is essentially covering this up now 600 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 1: because he was involved in some capacity. 601 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 2: Involved somehow, some way. Yeah. 602 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 1: I don't know about that, but the number the eighty 603 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 1: percent are aware, I would certainly believe, and the seventy 604 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: seven percent want all the stuff released totally agree. The 605 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 1: problem with all of this is we need the public 606 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: to be as passionate as they are in Epstein and 607 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 1: all these other issues. This is the problem, right, It 608 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 1: gets media coverage, it's salacious, it's obviously just an abhorrent thing, 609 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 1: and so the public engages he'd engage in all the 610 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 1: other stuff they did we'd have a much better government. 611 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 2: The interesting thing about this poll is that it says 612 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 2: seventy seven percent when all government documents related to the 613 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 2: Epstein case released, strongest support among Democrats eighty five percent, Okay, 614 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 2: eighty five percent when all documents released. Why didn't they 615 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 2: do it well? 616 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 1: And the answer is clearly, they're like, I think too 617 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 1: many let me ear phrases. I think to many people 618 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 1: they believe that the answer is clear, and that is 619 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 1: that there's stuff they don't want to get out, that 620 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 1: there's information, whether it is that he he being Epstein 621 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 1: was acting as some sort of agent for a foreign 622 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 1: government in some capacity that we have a relationship with, 623 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 1: whether it is that there are high profile people that 624 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 1: would be foreign leaders potentially that we have relationships with, 625 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 1: that could be in trouble, high ranking business people that 626 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 1: are potentially major financiers of various campaigns, and cause you 627 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 1: don't know, it could be a mixture of all of 628 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 1: the things. But this is not normal behavior. There's no 629 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 1: person walking the planet who is sympathetic to Jeffrey Epstein. 630 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 1: There's no reason to not just take the biggest colossal 631 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 1: dump on this guy imaginable and put all the information 632 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 1: out unless there's someone or something you're protecting. 633 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 2: So Donald Trump was asked about this yesterday at the 634 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 2: White House and he said a dirty words. 635 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 3: Hosting a gatherer in the evening, having responded to the Epstein. 636 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 1: Situation, is he working on what? He hosting some. 637 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 3: Kind of gathering atom advisors the sevening to talk about 638 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 3: how to respond to the Epstein situation. 639 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 2: I don't know. 640 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: I could ask you that question. I don't know of it. 641 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 4: But I think here's the man, right. 642 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 1: I saw a reporter today and it's completely fake news. 643 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: We're not meeting to talk about the Epstein situation. 644 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 3: And I think the reporter who reported it needs to 645 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 3: get better sources. 646 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 1: Look, the whole thing is a hoax. 647 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 4: It's put out by the Democrats because we've had the 648 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 4: most successful six months in the history of our country. 649 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 4: And that's just a way of trying to divert attention 650 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 4: to something that's total both. Okay, yeah, please. 651 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 3: I knew. 652 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 1: Okay, So again, he is his own worst enemy. Epstein 653 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 1: is not a hoax. Jeffrey Epstein is not a oax. 654 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 1: He was a real human being who actually lived. What 655 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein did is not a hoax. He really did 656 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:30,959 Speaker 1: traffic young women for sexual abuse. We know that unless 657 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 1: you think all of these women and the evidence that 658 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 1: was presented, he why was he in a prison cell 659 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 1: when he allegedly killed himself? Why was Gilaine Maxwell convicted? 660 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 1: If none of this happened, It's not a hoax. And 661 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 1: so he demeans and really takes away any effective arguments 662 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: he might have when he calls it a hoax. It 663 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 1: is not a hoax. And this is what makes people 664 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 1: so in rage. And then to act like you're trying 665 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 1: to distract us from how successful are administration is as 666 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: though you're Reagan circa eighty four and it's morning again 667 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 1: in America. It's not. Some things are better in this country. 668 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 1: The border is being an Immigration is so much better. 669 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 1: He's doing a great job with that, but everything is 670 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,959 Speaker 1: still super expensive. We're hearing all sorts of reports now 671 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: about jobs not going well. Foreign policy is still largely 672 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 1: a mess. Some things are a little better, but like 673 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 1: it's not. This is not some great administration that's humming 674 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 1: along and everybody's back to work. I mean everybody is working, 675 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 1: but I mean in terms of the job's numbers, et cetera, 676 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 1: Like this is not great right now. And so for 677 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 1: him to say that and then always play the victim, 678 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 1: it gets a little tiring. 679 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 2: So there was a report yesterday somebody came out and 680 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 2: said that JD Vance was meeting with some high level 681 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 2: people including Pam Bondie and how they were going to 682 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 2: start addressing everything with Epstein. And as you just heard, 683 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 2: JD Vance came out and said, you know, that's bad information. 684 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 2: That meeting is never happening. It was never going to happen. 685 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 2: Of course, we all know JD Vance was busy packing 686 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:10,839 Speaker 2: his bags because he's here in Indianapolis today. 687 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 1: Scheduled to be He could be here right now. 688 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 2: Maybe he is. Well there's a big, dark black tarp 689 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 2: in front of the Governor's office, so you don't know, and. 690 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 1: Nothing says we're on the up and up like a 691 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,399 Speaker 1: big giant tarp and going behind closed doors. Am I right? 692 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 2: Big material curtain is what it is. 693 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: It's just these people are exhausting. 694 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 2: Well, we're going to continue to talk about Donald Trump 695 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 2: because he had an announcement yesterday about chips and semiconductors. 696 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 2: You're listening to Kendall and Casey. It is ninety three 697 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:44,840 Speaker 2: WYBC yours