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Right now, though, we just want to say 28 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 2: thanks to our friends at Freedom Foods Indiana for supporting 29 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 2: State House Happenings. 30 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 3: Rob Kendall Abdula gave Shabaz Jim Merritt. 31 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 2: It's our final program of twenty twenty five at State 32 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 2: House Happenings, your weekly look at what's going on with 33 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:39,839 Speaker 2: Indiana politics and government. Before we begin in the program, 34 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 2: let's meet the award winning panel. You know him for 35 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 2: thirty years in the Indiana Senate, the Great Jim Merritt. Hello, Robert, 36 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 2: and you know him as the owner and operator of 37 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 2: Indiepolitics dot org. 38 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 3: A dulaq Shaba's Hello, Welcome in vinvenue. 39 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 2: Welcome all right, So this is our we'll serve as 40 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 2: both our final show of twenty twenty five and get 41 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 2: us into the twenty twenty six season, and then I 42 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 2: believe when we come back next week we will hear 43 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 2: it'll be the session, the session that started and then 44 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:08,639 Speaker 2: stopped and then started again, and now it'll be starting 45 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 2: to be starting again. 46 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 3: The good news has to be all done by the 47 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 3: end of February. 48 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 2: Okay, So let's duel what do they call that aiden football, 49 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 2: dual threat quarterback. We're a dual threat program. 50 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 3: Today. 51 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 2: We're taking a look back at twenty twenty five and 52 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 2: take a little look at it into twenty twenty six, 53 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 2: and they sort of all emerged together. We talked about 54 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 2: this the last time we were together a couple of 55 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 2: weeks ago. The big loser of twenty twenty five, Jim Merritt, 56 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 2: has to be Mike Braun in the sense that his 57 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 2: two signature issues that he put all his weight behind 58 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 2: property taxes and redistricting, both colossal failures. 59 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 4: I think it was a tough year for the first 60 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 4: year for the governor, and he can look towards twenty 61 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 4: twenty six. In the next couple of weeks, he'll be 62 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 4: talking to various members of the media, including abduel about 63 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 4: what happened in twenty twenty five. I always think that 64 00:02:54,720 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 4: when you're governor or your estate's us entator or or 65 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 4: whatever position you hold, as you and you talk about 66 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 4: your past, you always should talk about the future and 67 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,839 Speaker 4: what is behind you is behind you and and uh 68 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 4: and trying to improve every day. Your administration has has 69 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:19,559 Speaker 4: six point something million Hoosiers that listen to you, and 70 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 4: and governing them in the future is something that is very, 71 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 4: very important. I'm not sure what the elevator speech for 72 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 4: the bron administration right now is when you talk about 73 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 4: accomplishments for for twenty twenty five. But if I'm the broadministration, 74 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 4: I'm looking towards twenty six. 75 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 3: If I'm the broad administration, I'm looking forward to twenty 76 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 3: twenty seven because because realistically, because because thinking about it, 77 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 3: how you pivot, Yeah, I think I think here's where 78 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 3: I think you pivot. I think you pivot by number 79 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 3: one shutting up and number two letting some of legislation 80 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 3: get through. For example, Danie Lopez has the bill if 81 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 3: I'm the in a governor's office saying the governor a 82 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 3: long we picked a convention that'd be picked together just 83 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 3: let things like that sort of you know, you had 84 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 3: lawmakers tachically just take a step back. No, maybe unveil 85 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 3: like you. No, we want to finish proper text re 86 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 3: leaf blah blahlah blah, just low governor form. You know, 87 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 3: some small a little bit need health care. Then just 88 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 3: shut up and to just stop. Yeah. 89 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 4: You know, they did a really good job of talking 90 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 4: about energy in twenty twenty five, and I would continue 91 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 4: to do that. And it's really the center of everybody's lives. 92 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 4: You saw the Indiana Utility Regulatory Commission has three new 93 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 4: commissioners and and and they're insistent that they talk about 94 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 4: utility rates and and the high cost of energy, and 95 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 4: uh they that was kind of the centerpiece. If you're 96 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 4: talking about an accomplishment for the brodministration. It was all 97 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 4: about Susie Javarowski and and the governor having a vision 98 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 4: for the future. 99 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 3: But even that was a disaster. Jim. 100 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:55,799 Speaker 2: I mean, she's at some event where she basically says 101 00:04:55,880 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 2: local these energy companies should sue local governmentsies are out 102 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 2: of control. I mean, I know they're point of these 103 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 2: new people to the i u r C. He signs 104 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 2: this doctor Frankenstein Utility Bill. It's going to allow people's 105 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 2: rates to go up even with the technology doesn't work. 106 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 2: I mean even that was a dumpster fire. And who knows, 107 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 2: susie's your friend, but that was stupid what she said. 108 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 4: Well, everybody's talking about energy and should because uh people 109 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 4: believe contrary what you just said, that that the bron 110 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 4: Ministration is concerned about utility rates and as well as 111 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 4: that bringing uh a new energy future. The stave Indiana 112 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:35,679 Speaker 4: is a part of the Brown vision. 113 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 3: Did you break that story? 114 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 2: Didn't you get the audio on Susie Javroski, the Energy 115 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:44,359 Speaker 2: secretary basically second you're an energy company, sooth the municipalities. 116 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, becomes at the Indiana Fiscal Policy Institute sort of 117 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 3: annual policy luncheon. Deal. But all the eggheads and insiders 118 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 3: all go to Okay, this would be pretty straightforward, nothing, 119 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 3: nothing controversial, Like did did he just say that? They 120 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:02,359 Speaker 3: said play that back? Yeah, okay, I asked the president 121 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 3: next to me, like, hey, did you just hear I 122 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 3: guess I did? Okay, Right, this double checking makesure wasn't 123 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:07,359 Speaker 3: here or anything but that. 124 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 2: But that's my point is there's nothing he did this 125 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 2: year where you go, Wow, this constituency is super happy 126 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:15,919 Speaker 2: with you. The property tax people done with him. The 127 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 2: people that the rank and file people see the utility bills, 128 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 2: they're upset. The people that are angry about the ie 129 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 2: ed C and these data centers that didn't get there's 130 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 2: nothing Braun can go. 131 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 3: Boy, that was a great That was a great year. 132 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 3: Look at what we did on our good best. If 133 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 3: I was to the mic Broad administration trying to salvage 134 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 3: year one, I said, look, we made some progress incremental 135 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:37,919 Speaker 3: in the energy policy and the energy space, in the 136 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 3: healthcare space, like no can take a hospital race under control. Now, 137 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 3: whether whether they did or not remains to be seen. 138 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 3: But a police you could put point to that as 139 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 3: sort of a somewhat tacit moral victory is. 140 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 2: Braun's biggest problem. This Look, this is what I found out. 141 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 2: So last year. Last summer I went over to State 142 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 2: Party headquarters and it was me and Josh Kelly and Micah. 143 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 2: Josh Kelly is Mike Braun's chief of staff. I don't 144 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 2: know if anybody else was in the room. I think 145 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 2: that was it. And basically I told those guys said, 146 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 2: are you ready for this? 147 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 3: Jelly? 148 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 2: And they laughed about that, and what I remember that was, 149 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 2: I'll support you if you're dedicated to the cause, right, 150 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 2: And you can say I'm not dedicated to the cause, 151 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 2: and we're all not gonna part friends, but we'll go 152 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 2: part right, and at least you'll be an honest broker 153 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 2: and tell me what you want because you ain't required 154 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 2: to have me support you. But if you ask for 155 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 2: my sport and you don't deliver, if you fail, you 156 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 2: need to. 157 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,119 Speaker 3: Know what you're in for. Oh yeah, it'll be great. 158 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 3: We're ready for it. 159 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 2: And is that jelly through peanut butter and something the 160 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 2: kids say? You ready for this jelly? Yeah, that's something 161 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 2: the kids say, Come on, try to keep. 162 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 3: Up, just from a song called Booty Delicious. 163 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 2: So the point is he I think this is sort 164 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 2: of the problem with Braun on everything, and I think 165 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 2: it will get into redistricting here in a second, because 166 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 2: I think it's another costal failure. He so wants to 167 00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 2: be liked that in his mind, Well, I'll just tell 168 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 2: you whatever you need to hear in the moment, and 169 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 2: then I'll figure it out later. 170 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 3: As it goes. 171 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 2: As as we go along, well, whether it's property taxes 172 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 2: where he totally didn't figure it out, and he didn't 173 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 2: fight any cave or redistricting where he got totally embarrassed. 174 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 2: He's made more enemies by not being honest with people 175 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 2: then he has. He just said, look, this isn't gonna 176 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 2: work for me, and you can say whatever you want 177 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 2: on your little radio show and good luck, which is 178 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 2: what Hulkam did. 179 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 3: I don't think Bron wants to be like so much. 180 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 3: He wants to be obeyed, because you've got to remember 181 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 3: where Broun comes from. Bron was an executive of a company. 182 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 3: He built no millions of dollars. He tells people to jump, 183 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 3: they say how high, and that's it. Governor is a 184 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 3: little bit of a different creature because the legislation is 185 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 3: a colle equal branch of government. 186 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 2: They're actually in charge. Yeah, I mean you're in charge. 187 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 2: Wants the Sessions. I mean in terms of lawmaking, rulemaking, whatever, 188 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 2: they're in charge. Jim, you were there for thirty years. 189 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:51,239 Speaker 4: Well we were, and but we worked with Mitch Daniels, 190 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 4: you know. 191 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 3: But you needed him. 192 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 2: These guys don't need Braun because the state's so republican. 193 00:08:56,520 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 4: Well, also the fact that I believe that the govenor 194 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 4: of the Stave Indiana every morning can affect change. And 195 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 4: uh he he is a room two o six, a 196 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 4: room of one, And it just all depends on what 197 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 4: what buttons you push and and how you go about it, 198 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:19,719 Speaker 4: and and and there. There's plenty of opportunity for the 199 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 4: chief executive Officer of the Stave Indiana to to have 200 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 4: a very good twenty six. 201 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 3: It just pends. 202 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 4: It just depends on how he plays it. 203 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 2: What if you were He's got to get rid of 204 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 2: Josh Kelly, doesn't he his chief of staff? I mean, 205 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:37,959 Speaker 2: Josh Kelly seems to be the guy who is advising him, 206 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 2: if you believe the reports, to go down these paths 207 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 2: of ruin on things that are just being proven to 208 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 2: be totally unsuccessful for him. And not only is he 209 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 2: not succeeding, he's making people angry because he they he 210 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 2: they are setting the bar of expectations apparently unreasonably high. 211 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 3: Well and not only that, also too, is that Josh 212 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 3: Kelly made a bunch of promises to the Trump administration. 213 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 3: Yeah we can get this time, we can. Redis being done. 214 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 3: Don't worry about it. There'll be a there'll be a 215 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 3: cake walk blah blah blah blah. Little did you know 216 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 3: that there's a thing called the legislature. 217 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 2: Well, I'm that meme of that guy with the news 218 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,319 Speaker 2: around his net going oh first time, Yeah, because that's exactly. 219 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 3: What happened to me. 220 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 2: And I said, don't make promises unless you go follow 221 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 2: through on them and and and get you're right he 222 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 2: he they whatever, that team team Braun keeps telling people 223 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:24,319 Speaker 2: they can do things and they don't deliver on them. 224 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 4: Well, it's it's all about the idea of of pivot 225 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:34,199 Speaker 4: and and and talking about positive things, positive developments, positive policy, 226 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 4: good public policy, and in governing correctly. And and they 227 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 4: passed a bare bones budget what you know, an announcement 228 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 4: sometime in early twenty six on how that affected the 229 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 4: state of Indiana and and what they're saving money and 230 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 4: how they're governing. And I still believe that a governor 231 00:10:56,000 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 4: can uh change change the the uh the narrative and 232 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 4: have a different narrative. And they have an opportunity every 233 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 4: day to to create change in the state of Indians 234 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 4: or screw. 235 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 3: It up further, Yeah, which is what they seem intent. 236 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 3: Some day. I think these people can screw up One 237 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 3: man Parrie. 238 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 2: Well, okay, so how does Braun square if we look 239 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 2: at this ahead to twenty six, how does he square 240 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 2: the fact that he's out publicly saying I'm gonna primari 241 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 2: all you people who didn't give me what I wanted 242 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 2: on redistricting. How does he work with those people this 243 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 2: upcoming year where he's still got stuff he's gonna want. 244 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 4: Well, one term, mayors, I think you need to go 245 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 4: to the mayor, you need to go to the council, 246 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 4: you need to go to the county commissioners. You need 247 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 4: to start talking with local government officials about about creating 248 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 4: you know, they're gonna have to tweak Senate Bill one. 249 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 2: Well, he's out here today saying it's great, Jim, he's 250 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 2: still saying it. 251 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 3: I'm just telling you what I would do. Yeah, no, no, no, 252 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 3: I'm not blaming you for Mike Bron. 253 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like, I'm agreeing with you. But he's 254 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 2: a living in this La La land. 255 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:01,319 Speaker 3: Yeah. 256 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 4: Well, you know, local government officials really run the day 257 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 4: and and and the way to curry favor is working 258 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 4: with them to solve issues that are that they touch. 259 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 4: You know, anything from one hundred to one hundred thousand people. 260 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 4: And if you talk about fadness and and fishery. 261 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:21,559 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, but the problem is your omestic relations with 262 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 3: the mayors. 263 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 4: Yes, well you start, you start, you start rebuilding that relationship, 264 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 4: like now you want now you want to talk to me? 265 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:30,719 Speaker 3: Yeah like that. 266 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just saying, when you're you gotta stop digging. 267 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,959 Speaker 4: You know you got you gotta start building and uh. 268 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 4: And he has an opportunity to do that in January. 269 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 2: All he would have had to do is veto that 270 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 2: property tax bill. And I told him that, I was like, 271 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 2: just veto it like you, and then you'll be able 272 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 2: to say I fought as hard as I could, this 273 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 2: is unacceptable. We're coming back again. And I said, look, 274 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 2: I'll defend you. Other people defend you. And he chose 275 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 2: to try to play. Which is fascinating that on that 276 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 2: issue he was so deferential to the legislature where he 277 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 2: actually had the people behind him on that, unlike redistricting, 278 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:05,319 Speaker 2: where people are like even if I'm maybe four and 279 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:06,839 Speaker 2: I don't care about it, Like he had all these 280 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:10,079 Speaker 2: people behind him and he would he was so afraid 281 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 2: to fight with the legislature on that. But then on 282 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 2: this redistricting thing, which politically was a loser. 283 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 3: He went to the mat against dons. 284 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 4: He has an incredible opportunity with with with his voice, No. 285 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 3: Question, I would argue that technically right now, the governor 286 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 3: is going to strike two. Strike one was property taxes, 287 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 3: Strut two as redistricting one more and that's well, yeah, 288 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 3: and how do you how do you with these people? 289 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:38,319 Speaker 2: Hey, I realized I just publicly said you're a piece 290 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 2: of garbage and I'm gonna do everything in my power 291 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 2: and clean spending millions of dollars to defeat you. Uh, 292 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:47,559 Speaker 2: would you mind voting on this key piece of legislation 293 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 2: that I'm really for? 294 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 3: Like, who's gonna do that? 295 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 4: Well, the ball Bob of mine is is the short 296 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 4: session is gonna be over briefly. They're gonna tweak Senate 297 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 4: Bill one from last year, meaning twenty five, and they're 298 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 4: gonna be gone. And you know, one year we went 299 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 4: to June thirtieth, and then the following year we went 300 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:09,559 Speaker 4: to February fourteenth and did nothing in other than hold 301 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 4: committee hearings. And this will be a very very quick session. 302 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 3: And it'll be interesting. The next thing I'm looking for 303 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 3: is the State of the State address. Because to me, 304 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 3: that's gonna tell everything. 305 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 4: They ow to have that early early January because it's 306 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 4: to get it over with and get it done. 307 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 2: I guess he won't be asking me for help on 308 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 2: this one like he did the last one. 309 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 4: I don't think he's going to answer your phone call. 310 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 3: And by the way, half the administration is totally ticked 311 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 3: off to be ready to walk out the door. Well 312 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 3: that's what I heard, yep. 313 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 2: I mean, we don't say how we get information around here, 314 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 2: but we got some information. And I would say that 315 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 2: that you're making an accurate statement there that it's. 316 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 3: Like, where's my escape pole, I' getting the hell out 317 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 3: of here. 318 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 2: Well, okay, so let's pivot to some other people that 319 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 2: had a rough twenty five and we'll see if it 320 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 2: gets any better. I think you got to say the 321 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 2: lieutenant governor had just as bad or a worse twenty five, 322 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 2: given the fact that not only did he alienate a 323 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 2: huge portion of the people that supported him when he 324 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 2: went in, but he also at least as of us 325 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 2: putting this program together. Now, obviously news may break, things 326 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 2: may come out, just full disclosure, working on everybody's holiday schedule, 327 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 2: we're putting this together a little bit ahead of when 328 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 2: you're hearing it on the radio station. But as of 329 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 2: mid December, he is still under investigation from the Marion 330 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 2: County Prosecutor's office that involves a grand jury. So at 331 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 2: least Braun just ruined himself politically, He's not under any 332 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 2: investigation that we know about. Micah beck With may have 333 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 2: had a worser than Braun. 334 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 4: You know, I like to be sunny, disposition, cheerful. 335 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're the net and Flanders of Indiana. 336 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 4: I like talking, you know, positive about things, and I 337 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 4: don't have a positive thing to say about Micah beck With. 338 00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 3: I do. I'm positive he's gonna be in trouble. 339 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 4: He has no way, There is no door to go 340 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 4: knock on to number one, get his reputation back too, 341 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 4: to have some sort of political career. He's going to 342 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 4: be back in twenty twenty nine with with his church, 343 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 4: preaching to his church, and he's going to have his 344 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 4: he'll have his podcast which has that strange name on it, 345 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 4: and that's what he will be doing. U in Indiana. 346 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 4: Indiana is a happy state. It is a has lots 347 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 4: of spirits. They don't take kindly to negativity and that's 348 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 4: what this year has been about. With my friend Micah, 349 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 4: Why why did you do this? Because as a lieutenant 350 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 4: governor of Indiana Senate, you have a lot of power 351 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 4: for change and all all we got was insults. 352 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 2: Well, it's back with an example of duel of a guy. 353 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 2: I was thinking about this driving in and now we're 354 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 2: gonna put multiple these standofs Happenings episodes together. 355 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 3: I thought, he's exam of a guy. 356 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 2: Everybody says they want the smoke when you're on the outside, 357 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 2: and then once you get elected, you got to actually 358 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 2: govern and you got to start making those hard choices. 359 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 2: Am I going to stand up to the governor? Am 360 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 2: I got to push back on the governor? And is 361 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 2: he an example of a guy that it just got 362 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:18,239 Speaker 2: too hot in the kitchen for him once he had 363 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 2: to put up or shut up? 364 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 3: And so there's a line in the movie The Candidate 365 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,679 Speaker 3: with Robert Redford nineteen seventies where he runs in the 366 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 3: Senate and wins, and then he's like, no, now what 367 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 3: do I do? He has like now what? 368 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: Like? 369 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 3: Now you got to govern? 370 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 4: Well, we had such an opportunity to be on the 371 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 4: team and and and and work with room two of 372 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 4: six work with the governor and his staff, and and 373 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 4: you just there's no relying on him for a quality 374 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 4: output and and to be on the team. And and 375 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 4: and now you know the Indiana Senate, he walks in there, 376 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 4: nobody's going to talk to him. Uh, he has insulted 377 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 4: the complete body. And and uh, it's just a it 378 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:01,199 Speaker 4: didn't have to be this way. And uh and he 379 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 4: will be out of office in twenty twenty nine. 380 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 3: Uh. 381 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 4: And and I don't know where he His political career 382 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 4: is stunted, slash over. And and I just I just 383 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 4: I don't understand. I don't understand. Uh. 384 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,719 Speaker 3: Actually, actually, Jim, what it is, it's the establishment is 385 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 3: striking is striking back, is what it is. Because for 386 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 3: the for the past, for the past couple of years, 387 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:28,360 Speaker 3: anti establisher, that's anti establishment. That okay, fine whatever, beat 388 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 3: up on the establishment. They're all crooks, blah blah, okay, fine, 389 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 3: But the end of the day, the establishment always win. 390 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 3: That's why it's the establishment, right Yeah. 391 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:37,919 Speaker 4: And you know I'm a part of that. And and 392 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 4: I like him. I went on his podcast and and 393 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 4: we always got along. But I saw him at the 394 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:47,880 Speaker 4: IU Big Ten Championship game, and somebody whispered me, Hey, 395 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 4: the lieutenant governors down there, once you go say hi 396 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 4: to him. Well, I kept walking down the stairs and 397 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 4: I saw him and I pointed at him. But ordinarily, 398 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 4: if they were Frank Obannon, or if it were uh 399 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 4: Sue Elspherman or or any other governor, I would have 400 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 4: walked up and said hey, shook hands and said hello. 401 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 4: But I just didn't want to. And when I don't 402 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 4: want to do that, things are that's a problem. 403 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 2: Well, it's it's that people perceive him as being a dishonest, 404 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:17,479 Speaker 2: deceitful person. And I mean it's a litany of things 405 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 2: that you know, we could spend a whole show talking 406 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 2: about where this was a guy that said he wanted 407 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,439 Speaker 2: to do something for the people, that he wanted a 408 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 2: job for this reason, and then he got in there 409 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 2: and he has proven himself to just be somebody who 410 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 2: wanted the position. And I think it's to elevate himself, 411 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 2: not not the people he's supposed to be fighting for, 412 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 2: if that may. 413 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 3: Be so bold, And I will today because it's the 414 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 3: last show of the year. Micah Beckwe and the movie 415 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:48,719 Speaker 3: The Bible would have been the snake making the apple pies. 416 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:58,640 Speaker 3: I just I'm sad I did. 417 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 2: I'm just sad for him. I'm sad for the people, 418 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 2: myself being one of who believed in him. 419 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:09,120 Speaker 4: And I'm sad too because I really much. 420 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 3: You know. But here's the I'm not sad at all. No, 421 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 3: I have no sympathy for the Beckwith and his ILK 422 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 3: who basically came in, We're going to disrupt the system, 423 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 3: no respect for the process, We're gonna do whatever, and 424 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 3: they basically getting what they had come into him. 425 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, you know I told him on his podcast that, uh, 426 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 4: the only way that he's lieutenant governor is through the 427 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 4: convention process. He could never win a primary with a 428 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 4: lot of other people that are on the state wide. 429 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 2: Well, and the bigger problem he's got, unlike Braun, who's 430 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 2: just had a bad year politically, he's again, at least 431 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 2: as I was putting this taping together in the middle 432 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 2: of December, he's still under this very serious investigation from 433 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 2: the Marion County prosecutors or his offices, from the Americ 434 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 2: County Prosecutor's Office, which a grand jury's involved related ghost 435 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 2: employment and this a I porn thing, and that is 436 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 2: a way bigger deal than any political loss, because you're 437 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:03,199 Speaker 2: particularly talking about the freedom of yourself. Now, who knows 438 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 2: how it'll unfold. They may come back and maybe by 439 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 2: the time this errors, they'll come back and say, hey, no, 440 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,439 Speaker 2: you know, no no wrongdoing here, we looked into it, 441 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:15,120 Speaker 2: or by go home. But it's you and potentially people 442 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 2: around you that could be in some pretty serious trouble. 443 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 4: And you know that that that's there and it made 444 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 4: maybe you know, we haven't seen results or we you 445 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 4: know that that could actually happen. 446 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 3: And and by the way, and by the way, keep 447 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 3: in mind that if it does happen, it happens in 448 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 3: twenty twenty six, Yes, do it an election year? Yes? 449 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 4: And and but but also when at the end of 450 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 4: the day when I get calls, I probably get ten 451 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 4: phone calls a week about about things that we talk 452 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 4: about and characters in the play of politics and everything, 453 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,679 Speaker 4: and and he is a pariah I I you know, 454 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 4: people will call me up and say do you know 455 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 4: this guy? And I said, yeah, I know that film. 456 00:21:59,280 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 3: I know. 457 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 2: I'm well that fairness they did that to you with 458 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 2: me for years too. 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We 494 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 2: can't wait to tell you all about it in the 495 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 2: near future. Right now now, though, we just want to 496 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 2: say thanks to our friends at Freedom Foods Indiana for 497 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 2: supporting State House Happenings. Rob Kendall Deill keeps Youavaz Jim Merrick, 498 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 2: the program of State House Happenings your weekly look at 499 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 2: what's going on with Indiana politics. 500 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 3: And government. 501 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 2: Okay, a couple of minutes left in the program, let's 502 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 2: look ahead to twenty six in the session. Is this 503 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 2: going to be quick in and out? I mean, you 504 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 2: always talk about the thing that nobody sees happening, But 505 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 2: how could we not see something at this point given 506 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 2: what they've already gone. 507 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 3: I would say the thing that usually happens that no 508 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 3: one expects was registercting. Yeah, that's already you talked about 509 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 3: that for years. You said, there's always some thing about 510 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 3: halfway through, usually around Valentine's Day February. But if you 511 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 3: move the calendar, technically it happened. 512 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, And that happens usually in long sessions, and people 513 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:47,919 Speaker 4: are getting kind of bored. But yeah, I think that 514 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 4: having something blow up meaning an issue is you know, 515 00:24:56,080 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 4: you hear about represent Andrew Ireland talking about about judges 516 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 4: and impeaching judges or prosecutors and and there will be 517 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 4: little issues that not little issues, but little implosions about 518 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 4: issues that that happened. But when they they they're going 519 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 4: to try to help local officials and and uh and 520 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 4: make Center bil one feasible, and and and and you 521 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 4: know Travis Holman Center, Travis Holman always wanted to attack 522 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 4: the income tax and then then then property taxes's hoisted 523 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 4: upon him in twenty in twenty twenty four and twenty 524 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,119 Speaker 4: twenty five as a campaign issue. And and uh, but 525 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 4: but this session will be over, uh February twenty twenty 526 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 4: twenty fifth. They're gonna they will have issues, there will 527 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 4: be a state of the Stage speech, But for all 528 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:52,199 Speaker 4: practical purposes, the six point six million Hoosiers who that 529 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 4: aren't watching anything are more concerned about inflation and they 530 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 4: affordability acts. 531 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:58,439 Speaker 3: Actually, I think the by product of all this is 532 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 3: going to be a much more productive twenty sixth session 533 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 3: than anyone ever anticipated, because lomikers want to get the 534 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,679 Speaker 3: stench of redistricting off of them. Yeah, that's one thing 535 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 3: does seem like positive, actually substantive, substive legislation actually makes 536 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 3: a difference in who's yours life. 537 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 2: That's could very well be and I hope they do that, Okay, 538 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 2: And obviously I think the way that's going to line 539 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 2: up by the time we come back, the session will 540 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 2: start or be about to start, so we'll get into 541 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,120 Speaker 2: all of that. And obviously there's a long time betun 542 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,640 Speaker 2: as we're putting our final episode together of the year, 543 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 2: taving this in the middle of December and when the 544 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 2: actual January starts. Okay, so before we go, we'll do 545 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 2: a bold prediction here and we'll get We'll head into 546 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 2: twenty six with this as we do our final show, 547 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,120 Speaker 2: Lord Willing will still all be here doing State House 548 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 2: happenings at the end of twenty twenty six. Really well, 549 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 2: the most likely reason is I'm not here anymore. 550 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:50,880 Speaker 3: But all that being. 551 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 2: Said, will Diego Morales be the Secretary of State at 552 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,880 Speaker 2: the end of twenty twenty six going into twenty seven? 553 00:26:59,320 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 3: Aka? 554 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 2: Will he get re elected not only out of a 555 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 2: convention but against whatever whoever the Democrat is in the fall? 556 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 3: I will argue that Diego Morales will be Secretary State 557 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 3: at the end of twenty six, but not at the 558 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 3: beginning of twenty seven. 559 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 2: So he will Okay, so he will make it to 560 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 2: the end of twenty six, but he will not win 561 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 2: reelection exactly. 562 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 3: Very good, Jim mayor. 563 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 4: Diego will be re elected. He'll be Secretary of State 564 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 4: in twenty twenty seven. Indiana is still a Republican state. 565 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 4: Outside are the ears of Central Indiana that listen to this. 566 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 4: He still is a rock star in Republican Meetings, Lincoln 567 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 4: Day Dinners, and he will he will win reelection. 568 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,679 Speaker 2: All right, I want to close by thinking, you guys, 569 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 2: another fabulous year. 570 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:39,360 Speaker 3: Look. 571 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,399 Speaker 2: I love the Kendalling Casey Show and that we do 572 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 2: nine to noon every day on WIBC ninety three point 573 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,679 Speaker 2: one in Indianapolis. And I say this, and maybe it's 574 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,120 Speaker 2: because I only get to do it once a week, 575 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 2: but I think State House Happenings may be my favorite 576 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 2: thing I do each week in terms of media. And 577 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 2: it's because you guys. I love you and thank you 578 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 2: for another great year, wonderful. 579 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,160 Speaker 3: The place was all yours. 580 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 1: I'm doctor Jim Dalton, President and CEO of Daymar. 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Learn more about our mission 587 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: at daymar dot org. 588 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 2: At the Honeysuckle Hill bestro In Cottage located off I 589 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 2: seventy in beautiful Brazil, less than an hour from downtown Indianapolis. 590 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,360 Speaker 2: Their specialty is Hoo's your comfort food like Grandma used 591 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 2: to make, and just like Grandma's house. Their goal is 592 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:37,919 Speaker 2: for you to leave more at peace than when you 593 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 2: came in. The Honeysuckle Hill bestro In Cottage feature some 594 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 2: of the best made from scratch food in the state, 595 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 2: and their chicken and pork is raised right here in Indiana. 596 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 2: The Honeysuckle Hill bestro In Cottage is open five to 597 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 2: eight Friday and Saturday and Sunday, featuring their incredible breakfast 598 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 2: buffet from eleven to two. For more information call eight 599 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 2: one two four four three three zero zero three SEEA's Happenings. 600 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 2: Also wants to thank our fine friends at Freedom Foods Indiana. 601 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 2: Farmer Ryan Schleiman and the folks at Freedom Foods Indiana 602 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 2: have been delivering fresh fruits and vegetables right to people's 603 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 2: doors for years, and Freedom Foods Indiana is a big 604 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,959 Speaker 2: supporter of State House Happenings. Now, Freedom Foods Indiana has 605 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 2: some big things coming. We can't wait to tell you 606 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 2: all about it in the near future. Right now, though, 607 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 2: we just want to say thanks to our friends at 608 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 2: Freedom Foods Indiana for supporting State House Happenings. Rob Kendall, 609 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 2: Duel Keeps Shabaz, Jim Merritt the program State House Happenings 610 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 2: your weekly look at what's going on with Indiana politics 611 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 2: and government. You can find Jim Merritt on Twitter at 612 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 2: Jim Underscore Merit at Jim Underscore merit Abduel on Twitter 613 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 2: at at TYB Duel at at Tyb Duel, me him 614 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 2: on Twitter at Robim Kendall at Robim Kendall. I want 615 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 2: to thank each of you who have joined us in 616 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. Well look forward to talking to you 617 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. For Duel Keeps, Jaba's or Jim Merritt, 618 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 2: I'm Rob Kendall. You've been listening to the State House Happenings.