1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: Republicans have voted repeatedly to pass a clean, non partisan 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:08,479 Speaker 1: mill to reopen our government and remember at the same 3 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:11,879 Speaker 1: funding levels both parties have supported in the past. So 4 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: the radical Democrats have chosen to put the economy to 5 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: our country. We have the best economy we've ever had, 6 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 1: We had the best economy in my first term. But 7 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 1: we have an economy that's blowing it away, and we 8 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: have the Democrats. 9 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 2: Who are trying to obstruct. 10 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 3: They don't want to have a good economy. I don't 11 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:32,160 Speaker 3: think they want to have a good country. 12 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: That's why they try and stop our law enforcement from 13 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: doing what we did in Washington, DC. 14 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 3: Washington. That is often the way it looks that the 15 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,279 Speaker 3: left is not interested in what it is that we 16 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 3: are interested in. Tony Katz, Tony Katz today, great to 17 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 3: be with you, and I argue that they're not. They're 18 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 3: not interested in the same things. Their view of America 19 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 3: is not our view of America. There is a fundamental difference, 20 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 3: and sometimes their view of America is so warped. The 21 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 3: legitimate question is, wait, are these Americans. What they favor 22 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 3: is not America. What they favor is not the American 23 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 3: way of life. The favoring of this socialism is very 24 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 3: very odd. When I say odd, apart for the course 25 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 3: for them, I should say dangerous. They favor bigger and 26 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 3: bigger and bigger government. This whole shutdown is Democrats saying 27 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 3: we want to extend Obamacare subsidies that they agreed to 28 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 3: have sunset in December of twenty twenty five. They agreed 29 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 3: to this. They voted for this and the Inflation Reduction Act, 30 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 3: which was an incredible lie. They voted for this, and 31 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 3: now they want to act like Republicans are stopping people 32 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 3: from getting healthcare. No part of that is true. It's 33 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 3: just a lie. It is what it is, what it is, 34 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 3: and not only are they lying about it, they want 35 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 3: to start fights about it. This was crazy. You know what, 36 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 3: hold off because I was talking about the socialism. Let 37 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 3: me go to Josh Holly. I have no idea what 38 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 3: the cenator from Missouri is doing here. He is speaking 39 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 3: at a hearing, and he's talking to a union leader. 40 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 3: This is what it is he's talking about. 41 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 4: And meanwhile, these guys are fighting you, mister O'Brien, every 42 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 4: step of the way, as you try to get some 43 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 4: basic representation for their workers, for their drivers to tell 44 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 4: us about what you've been facing from this company. 45 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 3: I'll get it right. 46 00:02:55,919 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 2: At one point, Amazon is probably the largest VIBE violator 47 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 2: of the nl our aim right now and they have 48 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 2: grown significantly to your point. They focus on one hundred 49 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 2: and fifty percent turnover ratio in their workforce, They focus 50 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 2: on distressed communities, and the number one violator of OSHA. 51 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 3: They've got the most. 52 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 2: Violations last time we checked. Now we have a model 53 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 2: that's a similar company that employees similar workforce. At United 54 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 2: Apostles Service three hundred and forty thousand teamsters that are 55 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 2: part time in full time. Those part timers earn full 56 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 2: time benefits, health and welfare and pension they earn, they 57 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 2: earn wage increases guaranteed every year, they earn a livable wage, 58 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 2: and most important, they have a path to a full 59 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 2: time career. 60 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 3: Let's take a moment to take a breath. Josh Harley 61 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 3: is in this hear and speaking to Sean O'Brien as 62 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 3: the president of the Teamsters, and Sean O'Brien is making 63 00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 3: a great argument for why you should work for ups 64 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 3: and not Amazon. No one is forcing anybody to work 65 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 3: for Amazon. Amazon does not have to be unionized at all. 66 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 3: They can decide to go about their business anyway they choose, 67 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 3: and people can decide to work there or not work there. 68 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 3: That is how the natural course of things should go. 69 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 3: Force into a union, no thank you. If you think 70 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 3: that the union gives you some value over there at ups, 71 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 3: go ahead, not stopping you go to it. But if 72 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:42,679 Speaker 3: Sean O'Brien is going to engage the conversation of livable wage, 73 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 3: well we have a problem because there is This is 74 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 3: the living wage conversation, and we should be clear there 75 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 3: is no such thing as the living wage. It is 76 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 3: not real. It doesn't exist. What's a living wage? Explain it? 77 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,239 Speaker 3: Do the math on it. Eight three three got Tony 78 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 3: eight three three four six eight eight six sixty nine 79 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 3: The livestream YouTube dot com, slash tonykats go subscribe and 80 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 3: be a part of that. Tell me email me tonyatonycats 81 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 3: dot com. What is the living wage? It doesn't exist. 82 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 3: It's not real because a living wage is different to everyone. 83 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 3: The very concept of how one wants to live is 84 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 3: different to everyone, and how people live is different based 85 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 3: on just whether or not you're in Manhattan or whether 86 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 3: you're in Detroit, or whether you're in Tulsa, or whether 87 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 3: you're in Baton Rouge, or whether you're in Fort Wayne, Indiana. 88 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 3: It's all different. There's no such thing. It doesn't exist. 89 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 3: If you have no kids, your living wage could very 90 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 3: well be different than somebody who has three kids, two 91 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:58,919 Speaker 3: of which need certain medicines every single day. What's a 92 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 3: living wage? I just want to make sure we understand 93 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 3: what a nonsense statement. This is what nonsense. This is 94 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 3: from the team's just president. This is nonsense. But go 95 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 3: back now and listen to Josh Hawley, as mister O'Brien 96 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:19,919 Speaker 3: here from the Teamsterairs is slapping around Amazon. 97 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 2: That on the average, the UPS full time employee makes 98 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 2: about one hundred and forty thousand dollars per year for 99 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 2: doing the same business, and the UPS is a very 100 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 2: profitable business. 101 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 4: Boy, you talk about one hundred and forty thousand dollars 102 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,479 Speaker 4: in change, you talk about that versus thirty seven thousand. 103 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 4: I'm just thinking back to your reference to Rerem Novarrem, 104 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 4: the dignity of the individual. I mean, how you're supposed 105 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 4: to raise a family on thirty seven thousand dollars. The 106 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 4: difference between that and what you've been able to secure 107 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 4: at ups is incredible. Let me just ask you this. 108 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 3: If people want to work at Amazon, they work at Amazon, 109 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 3: how are people supposed to live on? What kind of 110 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 3: statement is this from Republican Josh Holly? And this is 111 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 3: all this audio comes from a tweet he put out 112 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 3: Amazon CEO makes at least forty million a year while 113 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 3: the average Amazon worker makes less than thirty eight thousand 114 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 3: a year. How is that pro worker or pro American rights? 115 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 3: Josh Hawley, It's time to put American workers first. Elizabeth 116 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 3: Warren could have written that whatever this is, and this 117 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 3: is not the first time he's gone down this road 118 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 3: regarding the minimum wage and believing we should increase the 119 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 3: minimum wage. You want to hear my opposition to the 120 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 3: minimum wage. Milton Friedman was absolutely correct. The minimum wage 121 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:41,679 Speaker 3: keeps people from negotiating in their best interest. It does. 122 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 3: The minimum wage keeps people out of the workforce. The 123 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 3: minimum wage is nothing more than a benefit of the 124 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 3: federal government telling businesses you have to be better because 125 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 3: we demand it, as opposed to the business being able 126 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 3: to run its business to the best of its ability 127 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 3: and saying this is what we pay, and then people 128 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 3: don't have to take the job. This is a nonsense 129 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 3: statement from someone who knows zero about economics. This is horrifying. 130 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 3: And this is Elizabeth Warren talk. How is that pro worker? 131 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 3: So now you want to make the argument that only 132 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:33,439 Speaker 3: the union is pro worker. With Republicans like this, who 133 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 3: needs Democrats? Speaking of the Democrats, if you didn't hear 134 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 3: the fight between Hakim Jeffries and Representative Mike Lawler, oh 135 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 3: my goodness, if you want to know how badly Democrats 136 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 3: are losing this shutdown fight, which is on day nine, 137 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 3: by the way, nine day nine of the shutdown, they're 138 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 3: losing big and I know this because they're now basically 139 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 3: accosting members in the middle of the hallways hoping to 140 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 3: shame them into it. You will not want to miss this. 141 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 3: You won't believe it when you hear it. Keep it 142 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,679 Speaker 3: right here. I'm Tony Katz, and this is Tony Katz today.