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Speaker 1: Wow, Fingers MALOI did himself some bargain shopping. Sometimes you

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Speaker 2: What can I do to put you in a cheap

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Speaker 1: That's me?

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Speaker 2: See drink smoke. I'm Tony Katz.

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Speaker 1: That right there is America's favorite amateur drinker, Fingers Maloy.

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Speaker 2: And this is the Ave Maria Excalibur.

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Speaker 1: Now I did the same thing you did, Fingers Maloy,

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Speaker 1: and I said, is this an AJ Fernandez cigar? Is

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Speaker 1: that what I'm seeing here? Actually, this is a line

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Speaker 1: that was originally thought of as Oya de Monterrey, reimagined

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Speaker 1: by Ave Maria. According to the guys at Cigar Dojo.

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Speaker 1: Then you go over to Cigars International and they describe

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Speaker 1: this and the hands of AJ Fernandez. So how the

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Speaker 1: name gets to the place is a question that I

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Speaker 1: cannot answer. All I know is Fingers Mulloy got these

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Speaker 1: right here. Cameroon wrapper Habano binder of Habano binder, yes,

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Speaker 1: and Nicaraguan in the filler comes one size. It is

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Speaker 1: a five point eight by fifty four, which means it's

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Speaker 2: That's a new one. That's a new one.

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Speaker 1: We all have to isolate that sound. I think we're

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Speaker 1: gonna use that later. And the ring gauge is the

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Speaker 1: fifty four diameter of the cigar. That's what it is,

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: The reason he got these for a deal, and we

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Speaker 2: Hey, where do you cigars?

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Speaker 1: And as you've discussed, we are very very local centric people.

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Speaker 2: as we've talked to Eat, Drink, Smoke Nation that of

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Speaker 2: to us. You know, we like to answer listener questions

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Speaker 2: and said, have you ever used cigar bid before to

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Speaker 1: Now, at this moment, we have to tell you that

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Speaker 1: cigar bid is not a sponsor to the show in

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Speaker 1: any way, shape or form, and we find that disgusting.

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Speaker 1: Wait was that I mean, that's just fine, No, it's disgusting. No,

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Speaker 1: it's just that they're not a sponsor. We don't have

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Speaker 2: If no one's bitting on it, it keeps falling.

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Speaker 1: You can get things at a really really, really really

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Speaker 2: Holy crap. First of all, it is a beautiful rapper.

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Speaker 1: I really do like the color here of this uh

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Speaker 1: It feels good. It's got it's got some some grit

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Speaker 1: one of the first things Fingers noticed pulls it out

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Speaker 2: But like more bands on a cecreta, seven bands, you'd

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Speaker 1: With that, right, I'm I'm personally looking to find seven

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Speaker 2: We shouldn't listen. You talked often about how maybe you

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Speaker 1: Seven bat.

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Speaker 2: There you go, seven bands by Tony Katz.

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Speaker 1: So he he gets this now instead of guessing the price,

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Speaker 2: So I found this as a five pack right, where

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Speaker 1: It's a box right box Ave Maria Excalibur and and

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Speaker 1: there's the box. And this box five pack I found

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Speaker 1: online for eighty four dollars and ninety nine cents, which

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Speaker 1: One hundred and fifty dollars a scoo? Exactly one hundred

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Speaker 1: like thirteen bucks a stick? Yeah, I got that right? No,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, isn't that right? That's sixty five bucks. So I

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Speaker 2: So twenty dollars would be one hundred dollars a stick? Yes,

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Speaker 1: I had thirteen in my head.

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Speaker 1: Is this a good time to say I had a

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Speaker 2: No, just embarrassic, Okay, I'll go with it. I wouldn't

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Speaker 2: check my social media for a week. Anger's my boy?

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Speaker 2: On cigar bin. Sixteen dollars a stick. How much did

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Speaker 1: that's about seven cents of cigar. That's that's correct.

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Speaker 2: Or five for one for the price of one. You

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Speaker 1: Bye, for the price of one. Wow. I falling apart. Today.

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Speaker 2: I got some really good deals or other, so I

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Speaker 1: So we don't listen in all these things, like first

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Speaker 1: not getting anybody in trouble. We're just sharing our experience

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Speaker 1: as to what happened. Now it's a question of even

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Speaker 2: So we just started smoking this.

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Speaker 1: I'll do a full breakdown of what you gotta look

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Speaker 1: say this, this is playing on the full side, Fingers

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Speaker 2: The binder at this point I feel like is kind

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Speaker 2: But man, there's a lot of spice on this that

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Speaker 2: Hermano is in there. We're gonna smoke this. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: Find everything at Etrinksmoke Show dot com.

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Speaker 2: Fingers, are you ready for the big game? Who isn't?

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Speaker 2: I mean it's really when you look at the matchup,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, see drink smoke. I'm Tony Katz. That is America's

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Speaker 2: Uh huh, exactly, just terrific. Not gonna hit the liquor

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Speaker 2: cabinet early for this one. No, no, But.

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Speaker 1: You're not having yourself like like a big, big, fancy,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know people like to throw Super Bowl parties.

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Speaker 2: Are you wait, are you allowed to say that word?

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Speaker 2: I'm describing parties that people throw. Okay, I'm not saying

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Speaker 2: that we're throwing a super Bowl party. Are you allowed

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Speaker 2: Okay, big game party.

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Speaker 2: But having said that, big game parties are the worst

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Speaker 1: Yes, the whole halftime kerfuffle with bad Bunny and everything

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Speaker 2: It hasn't because, much like Saturday Night Live, I have

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Speaker 1: You don't care.

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Speaker 2: You just want the game, Move on. I want the

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Speaker 2: game and move on. And all I want during a

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Speaker 2: halftime show at the Big Game is someone playing a guitar.

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Speaker 2: That's all I want. I'm easy to please.

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Speaker 1: I don't want anything. I don't need a halftime show.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no.

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Speaker 1: A halftime show is when I got to, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm busy. Don't don't tell me I'm missing anything, right,

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Speaker 1: give me some good commercials and give me a game

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Speaker 2: And I don't know how many points are going to

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Speaker 1: Let's say you weren't going to a party. You weren't

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Speaker 2: Fingers, molloy, what is proper big game food? It's all

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Speaker 1: It's all recipes. Oh wow, it's all recipes. They've got

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Speaker 2: Of course? Do you like spicy wings? When do you

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Speaker 1: Stop? When do I go and get wings? The last

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Speaker 1: Oh Lord, by y'all, so do you when you do wings,

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Speaker 1: This is the fabulous football Dip. And there are three ingredients?

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Speaker 1: Are they all fabulous? Well, I'm gonna do you want

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Speaker 2: Okay, I have not looked.

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Speaker 1: Three ingredients to the all recipes fabulous football.

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Speaker 2: Dip, so I would assume, and I shouldn't, but I

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Speaker 2: Okay, is there any Frank's Red Hot in this sauce?

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Speaker 2: There you go, there you go. Wow, that's impressive. Creame cheese, sausage,

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Speaker 2: Fabous? You make it more fancy than it is. But

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd still prefer sausage over chicken. I think in

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Speaker 1: Right, Not just some basic French onion and some chips, No, no,

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Speaker 2: I love your fabulous I love French onion dip. My

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Speaker 1: Aren't you glad you don't lit together anymore?

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Speaker 1: Drink smoke and it's just cigar bourbon foody extravaganza. A'm

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Speaker 2: had a little bit of a problem with the wrapper cracking, yeah,

439
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Speaker 2: a touch, but I fixed it up. Mine just started

440
00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,119
Speaker 2: cracking right by the foot as I'm getting into the

441
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Speaker 2: second third. But I haven't no noticed any problem smoking

442
00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:03,240
Speaker 2: at all, even with the cracked wrapper.

443
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Speaker 1: So so what can happen with the cracked rapper is

444
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,040
Speaker 1: it's not the end of the world. What can happen, though,

445
00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 1: is that you get additional airflow, and so it might

446
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Speaker 1: make things difficult on the draw. It will change the

447
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:17,640
Speaker 1: burn consistency, right. That can bustion a whole series of things.

448
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Speaker 1: So it's something you want to be aware of, and

449
00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:21,840
Speaker 1: you want to make sure that you if you need

450
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:25,960
Speaker 1: to certainly compensate a four sometimes and I swear to you,

451
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,120
Speaker 1: if you've got a bit of the wrapper that's lifted up,

452
00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,040
Speaker 1: a little spit on your finger on the cigar, put

453
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Speaker 1: it back down, kind of cover it up. It works.

454
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Speaker 2: I know it sounds dumb, but it totally works. Call

455
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Speaker 2: a little lemonade, right done, you've done this? Oh? Absolutely, absolutely.

456
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Speaker 1: Sixteen dollars is a hard one to swallow on this

457
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,920
Speaker 1: smoke and we're still we're still in the first start

458
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Speaker 1: of the cigar. But the way you got it, well,

459
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Speaker 1: it's just experimentation. You and a bunch of friends. Hey,

460
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Speaker 1: try this. Everybody's like you do book clubs. You ste

461
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Speaker 1: a cigar club.

462
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Speaker 2: Oh, I completely agree. I mean, listen, under four dollars

463
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:03,160
Speaker 2: a stick for this?

464
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely, not even a question, not even

465
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 1: a question.

466
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Speaker 2: But this isn't your typical flavor profile, correct, I mean.

467
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,960
Speaker 1: Not with the Havano No, no. I mean, first of all,

468
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,800
Speaker 1: this is big. This is a large I don't care

469
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Speaker 1: what they tell me, it's a large scale cigar. There

470
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 1: is a lot of smoke coming off this. There is

471
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,199
Speaker 1: a lot of big coming off this. There is a

472
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Speaker 1: bunch of tobacco. There is a bunch of spice, and

473
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 1: that spice is for me playing in. I'm just gonna

474
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 1: call it black pepper and blame it on the cold.

475
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 1: There is you know, you question whether there's any level

476
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Speaker 1: of nutty going on with the cigar, and maybe maybe

477
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Speaker 1: there is. I'm there is a big tobacco forward in

478
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:57,879
Speaker 1: this massive I don't mind tobacco forward. This is a

479
00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 1: large amount. This is a large, large amount. And I'm

480
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,159
Speaker 1: trying to think if there's another flavor. I don't have

481
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 1: the name for it yet, but it will come to me.

482
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:09,120
Speaker 1: Marsapan it is not Marsapan, but it's time. Fingers will

483
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,160
Speaker 1: Oi for News of the week.

484
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Speaker 2: Well, we've talked many times about distiller reason how many

485
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 2: of them have been struggling. The parent company of Kentucky

486
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 2: Owl Bourbon is moving to liquidate its US operations after

487
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 2: efforts to reorganize failed.

488
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Speaker 1: Kentucky Owl makes some acceptable bourbon, and there's a series

489
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Speaker 1: of stories out there, and we have been discussing this

490
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 1: for months, and there were some people who want to

491
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 1: come at us and say, you guys are blaming everything

492
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,199
Speaker 1: except the tariffs with Canada. That's what's causing all this,

493
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 1: That's what caused Beam to shut down one production facility

494
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 1: for a year. You're just not willing to say it. Guys. Listen,

495
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,199
Speaker 1: we both come from the political world. We come from

496
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:55,120
Speaker 1: political radio. We do this. We have written in places.

497
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,160
Speaker 1: We have interviewed the people that you see on TV.

498
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 1: We have done all this. We have no need not

499
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:06,439
Speaker 1: to say something when it is the tariffs with Canada

500
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 1: have had a small effect on the overall picture. Not

501
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:16,119
Speaker 1: every province in Canada has stopped the importation of bourbon.

502
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:20,239
Speaker 1: They are still bourbon being sold there. It had a

503
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 1: small effect. The larger scale effects are cultural effects.

504
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 2: Happening in the United States.

505
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Speaker 1: Not only do I stand by this, I'm ready to

506
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:33,679
Speaker 1: fight on this subject. You've got the situation regarding the ozempics,

507
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 1: manjarro zet bounds and all of those things that are

508
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:41,439
Speaker 1: depressing appetites and depressing the urge for alcohol. You have

509
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,119
Speaker 1: an entire generation that is coming up that has no

510
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,359
Speaker 1: interest in alcohol whatsoever. The non alcoholic beers, the the

511
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:51,639
Speaker 1: mocktails are reigning supreme. And you come off of COVID

512
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 1: where everybody was spending extra dollars on bourbon because they

513
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Speaker 1: had the time, they weren't driving, And now they have

514
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Speaker 1: all the bourbon that.

515
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Speaker 2: They're ever gonna drink. They're done.

516
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,919
Speaker 1: And now you're in this part of the cycle, and

517
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 1: you have some distilleries that over extended. This is what happened.

518
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,679
Speaker 2: It's it's amazing how the conversation flipped in just a

519
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 2: few years to where we were talking about barrel shortages

520
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 2: right and now we're talking about distilleries going out of business.

521
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:21,120
Speaker 2: I would also add that people are turning to other

522
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:25,119
Speaker 2: things other than alcohol, you know, with the you know,

523
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,879
Speaker 2: states moving more and more towards legalization of marijuana. I

524
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:32,159
Speaker 2: think you're seeing some especially younger or people there, like

525
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 2: I'll pop a gummy and instead of doing any kind

526
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:39,919
Speaker 2: of alcohol consumption. So it's a it's a perfect storm

527
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 2: of things that's affecting a lot of these distilleries, and

528
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 2: unfortunately it took down Kentucky Owl.

529
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Speaker 1: I is the is the brand? Did they say the

530
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Speaker 1: brand is going to go like completely or it's just

531
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,879
Speaker 1: the liquidation that somebody else could end up with the

532
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 1: brand and do other things.

533
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Speaker 2: They're converting from chapter eleven to chapter seven a quarter

534
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 2: point and Trustee will begin the process of selling off

535
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 2: all their assets.

536
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 1: Now, Fingers the Boy, I realize that we've been talking

537
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 1: a lot about the big game.

538
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 2: Is that this weekend, the big game between the Washington

539
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 2: Generals and the Harlem Glove drotters.

540
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 1: Love it, love it, Love it. It's heat, drink smoke

541
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 1: gotten Tony Katz. That is America's favorite amateur drinker. Fingers boy, fingers.

542
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 1: You know if if I've heard you say anything more

543
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:34,880
Speaker 1: than once, is that the.

544
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 2: Thing you love the most in the world is love.

545
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 2: It is so true. Well, it's actually three things. It's

546
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 2: it's living, it's laughing, it's loving.

547
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 1: No, well see that. That's that's your slogan, right, that's

548
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 1: your mantra. That's your mission statement. It's true to live, laugh, love.

549
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 1: I got it from a TJ Max checkout line.

550
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 2: But you do love love? Who doesn't? Who doesn't love love?

551
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:01,439
Speaker 1: Fingers oy. Valentine's Day is around the corner, and we

552
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 1: are here to help eat, drink, smoke nation get the

553
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 1: very best Valentine's gifts humanly possible.

554
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 2: That's this year. It's every year. Oh I thought it

555
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 2: was like Haley's comment. No, oh boy, I've really dropped

556
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 2: the ball.

557
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 1: Haley's comment is also happening every year. You just sometimes

558
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 1: can't see it. Oh, fair enough. So there are gifts

559
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 1: and fingers will I found them. The twenty one best Gifts,

560
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 1: The twenty one best Valentine's Day Gifts for your loved

561
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: ones that outshine chocolates or flowers. Now, fingers, have you

562
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 1: ever given as a Valentine gift chocolates or flowers?

563
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 2: Absolutely? Have you?

564
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 1: Huh?

565
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 2: And that was that was well received. It was we

566
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 2: can now keep in mind, you know, as a father

567
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 2: of two daughters, especially the daughters just love getting the

568
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:59,719
Speaker 2: department store three dollars and fifty cent heart with all

569
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 2: the chocolates, and that's what they love.

570
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: Now when you're a dad and you're and you're you're

571
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 1: a girl dad, you have to buy the daughters the

572
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 1: Valentine's gift.

573
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah, buy them the chocolate. And what year does

574
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 2: that stop?

575
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 1: Uh? It really?

576
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 2: I probably after middle school? Yeah, and even then it

577
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 2: doesn't you still do it? I I now I think

578
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 2: about it.

579
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 1: H No.

580
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 2: I don't buy the college kid really anything on your own,

581
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 2: but the high school kid. You still if you're bringing

582
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 2: something for the wife for Valentine's Day, it feels like

583
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 2: at some point that the daughter unit will look at

584
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 2: you and say, well, I used to get chocolate two

585
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 2: So you can't you can't say now you can get

586
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 2: a job.

587
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:51,479
Speaker 1: Sha la la la father of the year right here. Okay,

588
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: I did not know that I did not know that

589
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 1: that that happened as well. So these are the gifts,

590
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: and it starts with something you have seen on multiple lists.

591
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: This is the Lego Roses building set.

592
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 2: Now, I want to point out that this list was

593
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 2: on Yahoo dot com and this was written by a woman, right,

594
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 2: so I feel like it has to be a special

595
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 2: woman who really likes Legos because that feels like a

596
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 2: chunk of coal in your stocking on Christmas to get

597
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 2: the Lego rose buildings. If you have the kids and

598
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 2: the kids want to get mama gift for Valentine's Day,

599
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 2: you get the Lego roses and they get to build

600
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 2: the roses with Mom with feel the air quotes, and

601
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 2: then it's cute.

602
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 1: That's a cute gift if you're doing it like with

603
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 1: the kids, and the kids gonna get the gift and

604
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 1: we can build it together.

605
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 2: Mom will melt, Mom will melt. And then guys, yeah

606
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 2: you know.

607
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: Yeah you know, Hold on, why am I saying.

608
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 2: I don't yeah you know. I feel like if you

609
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 2: do that though, they yeah you know, then you don't know.

610
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 2: It's only ten bucks, is that it? If you go

611
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 2: to your favorite online retailer, you can get it for

612
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 2: ten bucks. The Lego Roses building set. Home run.

613
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 1: That's a home.

614
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 2: Run, one hundred and twenty Lego pieces. Oh it's fun.

615
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 2: You build that in about fourteen seconds. That sounds like

616
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 2: a lot of work.

617
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,959
Speaker 1: Or you can get the body restore amorey shower steamers.

618
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 1: It's a fifteen pack.

619
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 2: What is it?

620
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 1: They help romanticize the mundane?

621
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 2: What hold on?

622
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 1: Hold on? Can I can I read this in a

623
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 1: romantic way instead of having you giggling like a freak.

624
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 3: Go ahead, the body restore amore shower steamers. Shower steamers

625
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 3: routinely top our charts, So what's the deal. They help

626
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 3: romanticize the mundane. Just pop a puck in the corner

627
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 3: of the shower away from the water stream, then breathe in.

628
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 3: It's good for the sol aroma as the tab dissolves.

629
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 2: So it's a shower alka seltzer you know?

630
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 1: Yes, holy cow, Yes it's a shower alka seltzer.

631
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 2: That's exactly what it is. Say it's effer fescant.

632
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 1: By the way, I don't think you should ever get

633
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 1: anybody a Valentine's gift that can be described as a puck.

634
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: I don't I don't think that That's that's it.

635
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 2: Have you ever walked into a flower shop and said,

636
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 2: a ShopKeep, do you have a Valentine's Day that comes

637
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 2: in puck form? Never?

638
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 1: Never? Then there is the SMA I can't even pronounce

639
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 1: pronounce it E T S F M O. A beanie

640
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 1: with light. It's a hat, a knit hat that hasn't

641
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 1: built in light in it. And you get it for him.

642
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 2: Okay, what do you use it for? Well, I have

643
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 2: one hundred things that I can't say on radio. Look,

644
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 2: that's a great gift. Is it a Valentine's Day gift?

645
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 1: Though? No, No, it's not a Valentine's gift.

646
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 2: There have been plenty of times in the winter I've

647
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 2: thought to myself, well, I've been working out in the garage.

648
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 2: If only I had a beanie with a light. But

649
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 2: I never thought that would make a really great Valentine's

650
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 2: gift for me. You'd want an old timy miner's hat.

651
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 2: That's what I have. I love you, that's what I have.

652
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: Now.

653
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 2: It actually is a lantern that I have to light

654
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 2: and it has a flame. I can't use a match,

655
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 2: you use a flint. Right there, This is a good gift.

656
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: Woodford Reserve and Williams Sonoma bourbon pecan clusters.

657
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, uh huh, but not for Valentine's No, for

658
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 2: any time. Oh that's fair.

659
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: If you handed me right now a bourbon pecan cluster

660
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 1: from Woodford Reserve, I'd eat it right now.

661
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 2: I would too. But boy, oh boy, you really letting listen.

662
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 2: I know the dynamic of this show, Tony is always

663
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 2: money's money. I'm so many money. Did you see how

664
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 2: much these are?

665
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:20,359
Speaker 1: All though?

666
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:24,800
Speaker 2: The chocolates, Yes, there are thirty four dollars for chocolate.

667
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 1: Oh so you love your special someone, but you don't

668
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 1: love your special someone. As we all know, gifts equal love,

669
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 1: and the more you spend, the more you love.

670
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 2: That's just science. According to teen Vogue, it's ten ounces

671
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:47,879
Speaker 2: of chocolate for thirty five dollars. So it doesn't seem

672
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 2: like a lot of cos An ounce doesn't seem like

673
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 2: a lot of clusters. They're cheaper than gold. Why did

674
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 2: I not invest in gold? You've been telling me for years,

675
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 2: You've said, fingers, invest in gold, and I said, no,

676
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 2: I want to invest in bourbon pecan clusters. Hey, you're

677
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 2: still in my book, thank you.

678
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:12,240
Speaker 1: And then there's the quins Mongolian cashmere wrap.

679
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 2: Nope. So allow me to try and explain this to you.

680
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 1: The throw blankets, the wraps, the scarves, unless you know

681
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 1: the guys I'm speaking to you that your significant other

682
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,320
Speaker 1: wants a specific scarf and you know the name brand

683
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 1: and you know the color and you know the style

684
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: and everything else. Nope, this is all just stuff. It's

685
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 1: gonna end up in a closet that one day is

686
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 1: gonna get moved and your significant other is gonna say,

687
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:42,359
Speaker 1: why did he get me this crap?

688
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 2: No, I have to move it. It is a good gift, though,

689
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 2: if you want to seduce the cleaning woman in your office,

690
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 2: anything Kashmere. What it's a Seinfeld reference?

691
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 1: Oh boy, that's a Seinfeld reference.

692
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:06,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, George had relations with the cleaning woman. Yes, he

693
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 2: gave her a cashmere sweater. And then she ratted him

694
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,399
Speaker 2: out because a little red dot on it, A little

695
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 2: red dot on it.

696
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 1: Oh, is that what happened? I don't know. I was

697
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: I was busy in the shower with my steampuck. I

698
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 1: didn't I didn't have time. Yeah, you feel that puck

699
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:28,839
Speaker 1: right in the right in the shower, and then all

700
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 1: of a sudden you hear hey, want to join me.

701
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 2: By the way, you know steampunk ste steampunk not to

702
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 2: be confused with steam puck would make a great band name.

703
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 2: Steam Puck.

704
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, just because you can't pronounce it exactly, rolls right

705
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 4: off the tongue.

706
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,200
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712
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716
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717
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Speaker 1: you decide the thickness. I actually got the call from

718
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Speaker 1: the butcher yesterday. Got a call him and say, okay,

719
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720
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Speaker 1: you I'm gonna have my beef in a week. I

721
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Speaker 1: have been waiting I have been patient. I've been like,

722
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Speaker 1: you don't worry about me. Last I want to see

723
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Speaker 2: Get one hundred and fifty dollars off your order.

733
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Speaker 1: So let's call it a day of trying a whole

734
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 1: bunch of new stuff, because it's very rare that when

735
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 1: we say, hey, let's try some bourbon, and we say no,

736
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 1: let's try something else, we end up with an American

737
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: single malt whiskey.

738
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Speaker 2: This may be a first maybe maybe t drink smoke.

739
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 2: I'm Tony Kats.

740
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 1: That's America's favorite amateur drinker, fingers Maloy, And this comes

741
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 1: from the people at Beam. This is the Claremont Steep Steep.

742
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:52,800
Speaker 1: The Claremont steep American whiskey. This is an American single

743
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 1: malt whiskey that has been aged five years.

744
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 2: And fingers, Billy, what does this come in at? What

745
00:38:58,280 --> 00:38:59,240
Speaker 2: does this come in at?

746
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: A proof was forty seven percent alcohol by volume, so

747
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: ninety four proof.

748
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 2: No applause from fingers.

749
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 1: Well, he doesn't applaud for anything that is lower than

750
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 1: one one hundred proof right there. He needs to be

751
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: one hundred proof or above. It was interesting saw it

752
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 1: in a local liquor store and said, I've never seen it,

753
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 1: I've never tried it.

754
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 2: Perfect for the show.

755
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:28,800
Speaker 1: So in all these situations, remember that all bourbons are whiskeys,

756
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 1: but not all whiskeys are bourbons. Bourbon is something specific, right,

757
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 1: fifty one percent corn. It has to do with the

758
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 1: proof going in the barrel, going out of the barrel,

759
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 1: time in the barrel. All these things play into what

760
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 1: is a bourbon specific rules and specific laws which we

761
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Speaker 1: have listed in our book Let's Go Bourbon, available at

762
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Speaker 1: Amazon dot com, and also our book Let's Go Barbecue

763
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Speaker 1: available Let's Go Bbq. It's available at Amazon dot com

764
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Speaker 1: as well. And I said, I wonder if anybody's tried

765
00:39:57,960 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: this before, and a lot of people have tried this

766
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 1: before this came out. I think in twenty twenty three

767
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:07,280
Speaker 1: is when this came out. I had not heard of it.

768
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 1: It's aged five years, and I'm like, I want to

769
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 1: I want to play around. I want to see what

770
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,879
Speaker 1: this is. It was a really good write up over

771
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 1: there at bourbonobsessed dot com. So this is aged in

772
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: new oak barrels that have that have been very lightly toasted.

773
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 1: So if you think of beam, beam is like a

774
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 1: char four for most of their bourbons, which means fire

775
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 1: hitting the barrel, right, it has to come a bourbon

776
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,720
Speaker 1: has to be utilized in a first use charret oak barrel.

777
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 2: This is a one.

778
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: It's a very very light bit of flame that has

779
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 1: touched the wood. Now, the color of this that's pretty.

780
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: That is orange. It's like an orange kind of honey

781
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 1: going on in that coloring. Maybe a smattering of some

782
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 1: reds in there, maybe a smattering, but it's it's I

783
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 1: think it's a very pretty color, rich looking color as well.

784
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:06,720
Speaker 2: I would not disagree with you at all, that knows, Okay.

785
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 1: I again have a little bit of a cold that

786
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 1: is sweet and that also has a bit of an

787
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 1: alcohol that is an ethanol.

788
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it does.

789
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, boy, that is also a little bit of I

790
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 4: don't know, no, no, that.

791
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 1: That malt, because it is a malt, it does have

792
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,280
Speaker 1: it almost is like a like a like a chocolate

793
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 1: but it's not a chocolate flavor. But that's kind of

794
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: the kind of the vibe that that that it gives

795
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 1: off right there. Oh it's rich, it's a little bitter.

796
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 2: This is messing with me. I mean, there is I

797
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 2: don't want to say an overwhelming bit of sweet, but

798
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 2: it is very sweet. Like you said, there is that ethanol,

799
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 2: but then there's something else going on there that I

800
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 2: just I can't put my finger on.

801
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: I think the malt is exactly it. So it's playing

802
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 1: in a couple different directions because I'm even getting it.

803
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 1: It's playing in a bit of this weird kind of

804
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 1: almost faint chocolate kind of thing. It's playing in a

805
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 1: weird kind of coffee thing. It's playing in a thickness,

806
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,720
Speaker 1: which is a stupid thing to think of with your nose,

807
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:29,839
Speaker 1: but it can invoke memories and thoughts and it just

808
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 1: becomes this very rich thing in your nose, and that

809
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: that it's it's it's I want to say it's a

810
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 1: touch bitdder in the finish on the nose, which is

811
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 1: a weird way to say it, and that like it,

812
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 1: it's a bit beguiling. So I think that what it's

813
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 1: giving off are these thicker, richer flavors that are kind

814
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 1: of getting lost as the bitterer comes in.

815
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 2: It's that malt. You're right, it's just taking a while

816
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 2: for it to register.

817
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 1: The ethanol, man, yeah, is really hitting me. So you're

818
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 1: trying to find these flavors and then the ethanol hits

819
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 1: you in the in the you know, through the sinuss

820
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 1: You're like, oh my gosh, that's that's intense. Wow. Okay,

821
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 1: I'm not complaining. It's just it is what it is.

822
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 2: No, it is what it is, and uh, I want

823
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 2: to know what it is. Are you ready, Tony? I've

824
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 2: been ready for this all day.

825
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 1: Fingers, bill Boy is gonna take a sip and do

826
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 1: what is known as the Kentucky chew, moving the juice

827
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 1: around the palate get a feel for the flavors. I'm

828
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 1: a believer in the two SIPs methodology. The first sip

829
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 1: to set the taste buds, the second sip to really

830
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 1: get an idea of where you are with the bourbon.

831
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 1: This is the Claremont steep c l e R m

832
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 1: O n t steep st e e p from the

833
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:44,320
Speaker 1: people at Beam. Where are you with this? Uh?

834
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 2: There's oak there. There is a nice little bit of spice.

835
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:51,879
Speaker 2: First of all, I mean that ethanol that you were

836
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 2: talking about there. It does not translate to the palate.

837
00:43:55,000 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 2: This is ridiculously smooth. It's not nearly for me as

838
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 2: sweet on the palette is it is the nose. There's

839
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,439
Speaker 2: some of that traditional like a little bit of caramel there.

840
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 2: This is throwing me tony, I freely admit I it's

841
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 2: difficult for me to come up with notes on this.

842
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 1: Really.

843
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, that that oak is there. There's a sweetness that

844
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 2: I can't put my finger on. You talked me into

845
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:29,479
Speaker 2: the malt. On the nose, I see where you're coming

846
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 2: from there. But on the palate, I could just tell

847
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:36,359
Speaker 2: you it's it's wonderful. I'm really enjoying it. But I

848
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 2: just wish I listen. I'm a bourbon fan. I never

849
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 2: claimed to be like an expert.

850
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 1: So oh we we we know. I saw that.

851
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 2: I saw that little note you gave it. Thanks for

852
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 2: calling me number one?

853
00:44:58,200 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 1: All right here I go, I'm going.

854
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 2: In, going in, ladies and gentlemen, and he's doing what

855
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 2: we like to call the sagon I swish. Oh that's warm.

856
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 2: Oh that's fruity. What all right, I'm gonna do another

857
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 2: thing good for you. He's going in once again, ladies

858
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 2: and gentlemen. He's doing what we like to call the

859
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 2: Chattanooga chomp. That's so nice. Well, that is nice.

860
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 1: That is that is a bit of sweet and not

861
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 1: overly sweet. There's a bit of fruit thing going on there.

862
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 2: But it can't put your finger what fruit it is?

863
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 2: Can you? What is that? Is that toffee?

864
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:47,280
Speaker 1: Is that what that is? Oh?

865
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 2: Wow, there's a little bit of honey going on.

866
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:51,479
Speaker 1: For sure.

867
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 2: What's that fruit?

868
00:45:55,520 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 1: Um? Okay, I'll cheat and I'll go back to the

869
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:06,399
Speaker 1: guys from bourbonobsessed dot com. What do they say?

870
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 2: Dried apricot and.

871
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:09,919
Speaker 1: A touch of pair.

872
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 2: Okay, I listen, guys, I don't know you, but hot

873
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 2: damn on the pear the pair.

874
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

875
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I'm not a big apricot guy,

876
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 2: but when you throw a pair out there was like, Okay,

877
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 2: these are things I'm not expecting.

878
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's oh, it is warm. It is full chest.

879
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 1: It is full chest expanding heat. Well that's unique. Yeah,

880
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: a little and and and and by the way, the

881
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: idea of the malt and and and and getting some

882
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 1: grain in there a litt almost like a readiness, which

883
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 1: could add to the sweet Claremont steep. Oh is this

884
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 1: in the liquor cabinet. We're gonna find out. Keep it here.

885
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 1: So there you are, you're you're you're heading to uh uh,

886
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 1: you're one of your favorite spots. You're on vacation, you're

887
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 1: on a business trip, wherever it is you are, and

888
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 1: you're at the airport and the uber driver comes to

889
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 1: you and uh, yeah, you got the luggage into the

890
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 1: into the back and you sit down and uh, all right,

891
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 1: you're the right.

892
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 2: Person, the right uber everything else. And then what happens?

893
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 2: What are the rules on whether or not you have

894
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 2: to talk to your uber driver?

895
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,800
Speaker 1: It's eat, drink, smoke. I'm Tony Katz. That is America's

896
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: favorite amateur drinker. Fingers, myloy. The idea of talking to

897
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 1: another human being has ruined your fingers. Of course, have

898
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 1: we met? I figured as much. The New York Post

899
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,280
Speaker 1: had the story, and they're trying to answer the question

900
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 1: of whether or not it is rude not to talk

901
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 1: to your Uber driver. So they went to who you

902
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 1: go to in these kinds of situations, an etiquette coach.

903
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 1: They went to an etiquette coach, and that etiquette coach's

904
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:07,800
Speaker 1: name Alec Baldwin. Nice.

905
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 2: Nice, that's a good pull. Why because Chevy Chase was unavailable?

906
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 2: That's not true, he was available. Ah, but do we

907
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:29,399
Speaker 2: really has it come to the point in America where

908
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 2: we have to turn to an etiquette expert just to

909
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 2: find out if it's rude to have to talk to

910
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 2: your Uber driver or not?

911
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 1: Well, we could.

912
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 2: Turn to you. Is it rude not to talk to

913
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 2: your Uber driver? No, it's not rude at all. How

914
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 2: why why do you have to carry on a conversation?

915
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:57,760
Speaker 2: Be polite, respect the driver's time, respect the driver's car.

916
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 2: But I don't want to get into a car hot

917
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 2: enough you eh, And then you're involved in the conversation

918
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:10,359
Speaker 2: about the weather and all that stuff. Nine times out

919
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 2: of ten the driver doesn't want to talk to you, right,

920
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 2: A ten out of ten you don't want to talk

921
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 2: to I.

922
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 1: See, this is where I think you're wrong.

923
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 2: Oh boy. So one of the problems with Uber drivers.

924
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 1: I'm guaranteeing I'm never gonna get picked up for a

925
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 1: ride again.

926
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 2: This is why I use lyft.

927
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 1: One of the problems with all these drivers is that

928
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 1: I shouldn't say all them that's that's wrong some of

929
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 1: these drivers is they think that once you're in the vehicle,

930
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:46,240
Speaker 1: you're an audience. Oh and I'm not interested in hearing

931
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 1: the story. Sometimes conversations happen, and they're quite interesting. My

932
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 1: Uber driver, when I was in Florida, uh suggested that

933
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 1: if we want to try a good rum, we try

934
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 1: Florida Kanye, which is out of Nicaragua, and he's from Nicaragua.

935
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 1: It's the finest flower flower of the of the cane,

936
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 1: right because it's sugar cane, and the finest rum there

937
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:11,800
Speaker 1: is Florida Kanye. I said, okay, all right, I'll try

938
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 1: some Florida Kanye. I appreciate that, thank you so very much.

939
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 1: But in the main, I don't actually want to have

940
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 1: a conversation, and I find it wrong and rude when

941
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:26,319
Speaker 1: the uber driver thinks that I am there for their entertainment.

942
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 1: I have an audience. Finally, someone will listen to me,

943
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 1: as opposed to my wife or if it's a female

944
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 1: Uber driver as opposed to every guy who left in

945
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 1: the middle of the night without saying goodbye. Wow, Oh,

946
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 1: I'm sorry honestly, now a problem on each rigg smoke.

947
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 1: I yeah, I don't want to now they suggest that

948
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 1: one of the things you do is say hi, how

949
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 1: are you? Just adds up? I've got a few things

950
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 1: to finish on my phone, but thank you, Hello, it's

951
00:50:58,680 --> 00:50:59,359
Speaker 1: been a long day.

952
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:00,799
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take a Why ride if.

953
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 1: That's okay, or hey, I'm on a work call or

954
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 1: an email sprint, so I'll be a bit heads down

955
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 1: for this trip.

956
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 2: And then they ever popular, could you not?

957
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:13,880
Speaker 1: Could you just?

958
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 2: Could you just stop with the words? So while we

959
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:23,359
Speaker 2: have been in this discussion, I wanted to pull up.

960
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:26,879
Speaker 2: I use Lyft too, I don't use Uber as much.

961
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 2: I wanted to pull up my rating as a rider.

962
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 2: Have you have you checked your rating recently?

963
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 1: I'll check my rating right now.

964
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 2: I have ninety four rides on Lift eleven point three

965
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 2: years according to the fine folks at Lift Okay, perfect

966
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 2: five star rating. How do I go to you? Uh?

967
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 1: Huh? How do I?

968
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 2: How do I check where my my rating is? You

969
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 2: go to settings and you tap your name on Lift

970
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 2: and then your profile will come up and it will

971
00:51:58,440 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 2: say how many rides and what you're.

972
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:03,799
Speaker 1: I've had fifty two rides. I have been there nine

973
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 1: and a half years. I could I use Uber more?

974
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 1: My rating is a four point.

975
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:12,879
Speaker 2: Eight four point eight a h five, Yeah, you're point

976
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 2: You know why? Because I don't talk, that's why. Yeah,

977
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:18,399
Speaker 2: But I don't know what gave me a four point eight?

978
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 2: Like does it?

979
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 1: Does it tell you? I also don't care.

980
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 2: Listen, four point eight that's pretty good. You're on the

981
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 2: honor roll, right, But okay, I see what I am

982
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 2: now on Uber. It's non I'm a four point ninety

983
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 2: four on Uber. I looked that up too, but I

984
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 2: haven't been on Uber in years. I switched to Lyft

985
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 2: and that's not an endorsement of Lift.

986
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:43,720
Speaker 1: You use well?

987
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 2: Four point nine three? Are you a four point nine two?

988
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 2: Four point nine four?

989
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 1: Are you?

990
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:48,839
Speaker 2: Yes?

991
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 1: That's crap? You know why? Because I don't talk? No,

992
00:52:54,120 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 1: I actually I wouldn't have an understanding of why I

993
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 1: would be a four point nine three short weaight times

994
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:11,479
Speaker 1: courtesy safety, but I'm always courteous. I'm always I don't talk,

995
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 1: but I'm always courteous.

996
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 2: I would hope that you would say of me, well,

997
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 2: I'm not much of a talker, that I'm always polite

998
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:23,320
Speaker 2: to people, and I'm always polite to my uber slash

999
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 2: Lyft driver. I just don't. I just do. You can

1000
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 2: actually see my soul leave my body when small talk

1001
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 2: small talk starts happening. You can see the shoulders start

1002
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 2: to do you drink a water or a soda in

1003
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 2: the car? I try not to. Yeah, I do. I'll

1004
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 2: take a water with me or something.

1005
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 1: And I could see someone be like, oh, I don't know,

1006
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 1: I don't have coffee. I absolutely do.

1007
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 2: See I don't do that. Oh, I absolutely do that.

1008
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:51,839
Speaker 1: That could be you know, I'll take my four point

1009
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:56,479
Speaker 1: nine three please, Yeah, I'll wear that. Oh it's worth

1010
00:53:56,600 --> 00:54:00,840
Speaker 1: a point zero seven not to be a perfect five.

1011
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 2: No, I don't take any I did take a slab

1012
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 2: of ribs with me once. No, I didn't do that.

1013
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 1: But where were you that?

1014
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 2: I was at Adam's Ribs. That's where I was at,

1015
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 2: and I took a slab of ribs with me and

1016
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:21,360
Speaker 2: I offered some to the driver. That's why I was

1017
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 2: able to keep my perfect rating of five point zero. No,

1018
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 2: it's very impressive well, listen, it's because I'm so polite

1019
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:30,760
Speaker 2: and I like to have a nice conversation with people.

1020
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:36,919
Speaker 2: No part of that is true. Hot enough for you. Now,

1021
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:40,400
Speaker 2: wait a second. I can handle not having a five.

1022
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:47,360
Speaker 1: Being considered more impolite than Fingers Maloy is some crap.

1023
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 2: That's garbage. Listen, I'm telling you, sometimes Tony Less is

1024
00:54:54,760 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 2: more a ruggedly handsome man gets into your uber and

1025
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 2: just says, good evening, sir, good evening, madam. Please take

1026
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 2: me to your local and that's the end of it.

1027
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your ride. I hope you

1028
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:13,280
Speaker 2: have a pleasant evening.

1029
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:15,760
Speaker 1: So you're saying that. In no way? Can I blame

1030
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 1: this on anti semitism?

1031
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 2: Oh he could. Hey, I think it's very impressive. From

1032
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:27,759
Speaker 2: now on, you get the ubers. I may change my

1033
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 2: ex profile from fitness influencer to perfect rating on lift.

1034
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 1: It's crazy.

1035
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 2: You should do that. Eat, drink smoking is your cigar

1036
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:47,280
Speaker 2: bourbon food.

1037
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:50,880
Speaker 1: The extravaganza stopped left and we just started. I'm Tony Katz.

1038
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 1: That's America's favorite amateur drinker. Finger Is Moloy, and we

1039
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 1: have got ourselves a couple of things here. First, the

1040
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 1: Ave Maria Excalibur which is almost six inches fifty four

1041
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 1: ring gauge. So this is AJ Fernandez who does the cigar.

1042
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 1: I think that I found understanding it right. They're the

1043
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 1: people who make the cigar.

1044
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 2: No, at the very least apparently from things that we've read,

1045
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 2: it's AJ Fernandez curious No.

1046
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:22,280
Speaker 1: So this is part of the Oyo de Monterey original

1047
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 1: brand and now it's in the hands of AJ Fernandez

1048
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 1: and they make the ave Maria cigar. This is a

1049
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 1: cigar that Fingers Boy found on the site cigar Bid.

1050
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 1: Full disclosure, We have no financial relationship with cigar bid.

1051
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 1: They are not sponsors of the show. This is not

1052
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 1: an endorsement of cigar bid. But he was able to

1053
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 1: get a five pack at an outrageously good price of

1054
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:45,439
Speaker 1: sixteen dollars for the five pack when it usually runs

1055
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 1: about sixteen dollars a stick. Considering your eighty three, eighty

1056
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 1: four eighty five dollars for a five pack, I.

1057
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:53,720
Speaker 2: Do that math, right, We should really get the boys

1058
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 2: over at Fingers Malloy's Institute for Institutes of Institutes to

1059
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 2: do the math for us to figure that out.

1060
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 1: The pull up, a five pack for sixteen is better

1061
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 1: than a five pack for eighty four. Yes, and thus

1062
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 1: we are smoking it. It's got that habano in the binder.

1063
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 1: It is a nic Roguin filler, but a Cameroon wrapper,

1064
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 1: and the habano really dominates on this cigar. But yes,

1065
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:20,440
Speaker 1: now that we're into the second third, it has smoothed

1066
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 1: out a little, but there's a great amount of tobacco here.

1067
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 1: There is now a little bit of a nutty sweet

1068
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:31,920
Speaker 1: you can argue has kind of of crept in there

1069
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 1: right going on. But you've got the spice of the habano.

1070
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 1: You've got a huge amount of tobacco forward in this cigar.

1071
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's a bad cigar. I'm saying it's

1072
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:41,640
Speaker 1: a big cigar.

1073
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 2: So you mentioned this before we went on the air,

1074
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 2: when we first pulled these sticks out of the Cell

1075
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 2: of Fame, and I don't know if you planted the

1076
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 2: seed in my head. You said there's a bit of

1077
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 2: scent of the farm. Yes, I'm starting to get a tad.

1078
00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 2: I mean a hint of scent of the farm on this.

1079
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 2: It's not a bad thing. I'm I'm really happy with

1080
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 2: the stick, especially at less than four dollars a stick,

1081
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 2: which was a lot I paid for it. Yeah, when

1082
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 2: we start talking sixteen seventeen dollars a stick, I'm not sure.

1083
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not there for that. I'm not there for

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Speaker 1: sixteen dollars a stick. The way you found it absolutely

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00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 1: absolutely incredible. Is it a nice cigar. It's a nice cigar.

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00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 1: But if you if you like a bigger cigar, you're

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00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 1: gonna try it. Absolutely, you're gonna try it.

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00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 2: For me, it would certainly even at that price point,

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00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 2: if I bought, which I did, a five pack of

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00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 2: the cigar, and I'm you know, once the weather starts

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00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 2: getting warmer and I can go outside four or five

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00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 2: nights a week to have a cigar, I would probably

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00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 2: have this for this five pack for two or three months.

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Speaker 2: This is certainly not an everyday smoke for me.

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Speaker 1: And we are pairing this with the Claremont steep Step.

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00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 1: This is an American malt whiskey from the people at Beam.

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00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 1: That's where this comes from, from Beams Suntory, the gym

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Speaker 1: Beam Distillery, aged five years, eighty percent standard malted barley,

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00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 1: twenty percent Golden Pilsner malted barley. Again, this is not

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00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 1: a bourbon. A bourbon has to be fifty one percent corn.

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00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 1: This is a American they call it American single malt whiskey.

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00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 1: And there was some really unique going on here with

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00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:22,680
Speaker 1: the grain. Was it a little bit of pear? And

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00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 1: that's kind of fruit we thought we got in it.

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00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 1: The nose had an ethanol hit. There was a real

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00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 1: sweetness and a full heat throughout the chest on this.

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00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 1: But very nice, very nice, and very very well done.

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Speaker 1: Now I've got a couple of cubes right here. Oh,

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00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:41,320
Speaker 1: let's say, you know it's fresh, and fingers is gonna add.

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00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 2: Some water to his if he hasn't.

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00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:42,920
Speaker 1: I already did.

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00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 2: I pulled out my eye droppers, and I.

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00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 1: Haven't pulled out an eye dropper since the great eye

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00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 1: dropped shortage of.

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00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 2: Four hought four too soon, man, soon, too soon.

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00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 1: So when you add water or you add a cube,

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00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 1: you're bringing down proof. This was ninety four proof water

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00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 1: does that? Some flavors more pronounced, some flavors more muted.

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01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 1: You're opening up the bourbon. You may find you don't

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Speaker 1: like something neat, but you love it on the rocks.

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01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 2: You love it neat. You don't like it on the rocks,

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01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:09,400
Speaker 2: Maybe a little bit of water.

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Speaker 1: You gotta try it all the ways, see which way

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01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 1: works for you. I've got it on a cube, the

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01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:16,120
Speaker 1: Claremont c L E R M O n T Claremont

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01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 1: steep from a beam. Here I go.

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01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 2: He's going in, ladies and gentlemen, and he's doing the

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01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 2: Memphis munch, the Chattanooga chump, buttro scalley and it's not

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01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:32,280
Speaker 2: what it is. Oh I like the better neat. Yeah

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01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 2: what did it do?

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01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 1: Yeah? It took away the richness.

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01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:38,480
Speaker 2: Hold on, good for you. He's going in for the

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01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:43,480
Speaker 2: oh second sip. Oh the heat built ah.

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01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 1: Uh. It took away the richness, right, some of that

1135
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 1: fullness of that made it be like, wow, this is

1136
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 1: this is really kind of unique. You don't have any

1137
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 1: more of that is is that a little bit of

1138
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 1: a chocolate going on there is where you know, the

1139
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 1: oak is there on the on the finish, you know.

1140
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 2: But some of the some of the real.

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01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 1: Balance of a couple of those different flavors, because there

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01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:13,680
Speaker 1: was a lot happening, seems to have gone away. And

1143
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:16,440
Speaker 1: now we're a little more we're a little more monotone

1144
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 1: and a little more heat focused on the tongue, back

1145
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 1: of throat for sure, fingers the way is going in.

1146
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 1: He just added a little bit of water to his

1147
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 1: didn't change the complexion of his drink. The Claremont steep

1148
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 1: step is what we are drinking.

1149
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 2: And what say you, it's nice. It brought out a

1150
01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:37,760
Speaker 2: little bit more of that pair that we were talking

1151
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:42,440
Speaker 2: about and maybe a hint more of the oak. What

1152
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 2: it did do and just take that you don't, I

1153
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:48,920
Speaker 2: know you're wigged out about drinking someone, But on the nose,

1154
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:52,880
Speaker 2: it really took a lot of that ethanol away, at

1155
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:53,840
Speaker 2: least in my mind.

1156
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, you do have more of the grain, you do

1157
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 1: have more of the.

1158
01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:58,320
Speaker 2: Again, and I didn't put a whole heck of a

1159
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 2: lot again again, yeah, I didn't put a whole heck

1160
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:03,440
Speaker 2: of a lot of water in there. But it really

1161
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:05,880
Speaker 2: took that ethanol. So if you're someone that doesn't like

1162
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 2: that on the nose. And by the way, when we

1163
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:11,680
Speaker 2: tried this neat that ethanol did not translate to the

1164
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:15,480
Speaker 2: palette at all. There wasn't like a strong like alcohol

1165
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:17,960
Speaker 2: taste to it at all compared to what It was

1166
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:21,360
Speaker 2: a lot different on the nose than it was the palette,

1167
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:23,080
Speaker 2: didn't you feel like on the nose it was a

1168
01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:26,080
Speaker 2: lot sweeter, but it had that ethanol. Then it's sweet

1169
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 2: on the palette, but not nearly as sweet as it

1170
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 2: is on the nose. I'm sorry, what it's sweeter on

1171
01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:37,720
Speaker 2: the nose than it was the palette. One thousand percent true,

1172
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:40,600
Speaker 2: it is. It is sweeter on the nose than on

1173
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:43,440
Speaker 2: the palette. Now I get you the question, Fingers Billoy,

1174
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:46,600
Speaker 2: is this in your liquor cabinet?

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01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:50,680
Speaker 1: Now? Back in twenty twenty three, when I first found

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01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:52,480
Speaker 1: some of the reviews and some people talking about this,

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Speaker 1: this MSRP.

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Speaker 2: That's sixty dollars a bottle, I and I see the

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01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:03,520
Speaker 2: same sale price right here. Forty nine, Yes, forty two

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01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 2: ninety nine, it's in my liquor cabinet. Yeah, it is

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Speaker 2: at forty two ninety nine.

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01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 1: Yeah it is.

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01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a unique flavor, it's a unique bunch of flavors.

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01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 2: But that's just it.

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01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:17,320
Speaker 1: There's a lot of very cool happening here. I don't

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01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:18,959
Speaker 1: know if it's an every day drag for some people.

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Speaker 2: It may very well be.

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01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:25,120
Speaker 1: But forty two ninety nine, absolutely, no question, that's in

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01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:28,680
Speaker 1: the liquor cabinet and a very cool gift, a very

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01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 1: very cool gift, something to bring. Hey, let's try this.

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01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 1: It really is interesting. But it's time fingers Belloway for

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01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:36,280
Speaker 1: News of the Week.

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01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 2: Tony ups announced that it plans to cut up to

1194
01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 2: thirty thousand workers this year as it moves to cut cost.

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01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:48,120
Speaker 2: And also it feels like they're further decoupling away from

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01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 2: Amazon deliveries and that is having an impact on their business.

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01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:55,320
Speaker 2: Oh as an Amazon's doing their own. Yeah, could be

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01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 2: some of that. I think you're right, there could be.

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Speaker 1: As we have seen what AI is doing everywhere, you

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Speaker 1: can claim that, my gosh, jobs are down and people

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01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:09,080
Speaker 1: are setting jobs. Look what's happened to this economy If

1202
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:11,480
Speaker 1: we're not willing to admit that AI has changed the

1203
01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 1: game in a lot of ways, not necessarily that it

1204
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:15,760
Speaker 1: should or that it's a good thing overall. We don't

1205
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 1: know yet, but a lot of people, especially on the

1206
01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:21,200
Speaker 1: corporate side, that white collar side, have been trying to

1207
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:25,000
Speaker 1: utilize AI for more opportunities and reducing force. Yeah.

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01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:27,400
Speaker 2: AI has had a huge impact. Like right now, the

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01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:31,480
Speaker 2: show it's being hosted by AI. Stop it. That's creepy

1210
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:34,840
Speaker 2: because you know it can, Yes, it can. You're already

1211
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:36,360
Speaker 2: starting to see. I believe we did the story what

1212
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 2: was it last week or two weeks ago? That YouTube

1213
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:44,680
Speaker 2: is now providing a service for creators where they can

1214
01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:49,840
Speaker 2: have an AI version of themselves. Just upload the audio

1215
01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:53,800
Speaker 2: and waka waka waka. There we are an AI form.

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01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:58,240
Speaker 2: It's happening. What are we doing?

1217
01:04:59,360 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 1: What?

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01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:02,640
Speaker 2: It's the future? Tony?

1219
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:03,080
Speaker 1: Is it?

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01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:06,520
Speaker 2: I saw a whole map out of this at the

1221
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:11,640
Speaker 2: Nashville World's Fair. When was the Nation World's Fair nineteen

1222
01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:12,080
Speaker 2: eighty four?

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01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:13,400
Speaker 1: Is that right?

1224
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:14,040
Speaker 2: Sure?

1225
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:20,680
Speaker 1: I believed you for amid that I did. We are

1226
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:29,240
Speaker 1: not AI, We're the real deal. So is it the

1227
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:33,280
Speaker 1: end of inflation? I do not know if snack prices

1228
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:35,880
Speaker 1: are the way to measure these things, but if snack

1229
01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:39,400
Speaker 1: prices are coming down, I'm happy. D Eat Drink Smoke.

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01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:42,000
Speaker 1: I'm Tony Katz. That's Fingers onli. I find everything at

1231
01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:45,000
Speaker 1: Eat Drinksmoke show dot com. Don't forget to subscribe on

1232
01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:47,360
Speaker 1: your favorite podcast platform and get the podcast, and of

1233
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:50,240
Speaker 1: course on YouTube, all the videos are there. Just go

1234
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:53,520
Speaker 1: to Eat Drink Smoke on YouTube and hit subscribe. What's

1235
01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:54,200
Speaker 1: the matter of fingers?

1236
01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:58,720
Speaker 2: Moliy? The World's Fair in Tennessee was actually in Knoxville

1237
01:05:58,760 --> 01:05:59,640
Speaker 2: in nineteen eighty two.

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01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:04,320
Speaker 1: You're so close, so close? Yeah, you got that big

1239
01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:06,920
Speaker 1: fancy five star rating on Lift. But you don't know

1240
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:07,880
Speaker 1: when the World's Fair was.

1241
01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:10,520
Speaker 2: That's it. Just need to bring you down to earth.

1242
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:13,560
Speaker 2: I've brought my I've brought shame on my entire family.

1243
01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:15,000
Speaker 2: You've been brought, You've been brought low.

1244
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:20,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is what you have. Pepsi is announcing that

1245
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:24,560
Speaker 1: drink sales are improving and they're cutting snack prices. So

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01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:28,920
Speaker 1: fourth quarter income. Full disclosure, I do not own Pepsi stock.

1247
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:31,680
Speaker 1: I don't believe fingers Bloy does where where I'm always

1248
01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:33,840
Speaker 1: I'm always freaked out about that stuff when we talk

1249
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:35,960
Speaker 1: about something like are we just pushing something for our

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01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:36,560
Speaker 1: own benefit?

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01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:38,960
Speaker 2: No, but the amount of Cheetos and Doritos I have

1252
01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:41,880
Speaker 2: consumed over the years, I should be sho be a shareholder.

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01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:46,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, that that is right. Fourth quarter net income two

1254
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:51,120
Speaker 1: point five four billion or dollars eighty five a share,

1255
01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:53,360
Speaker 1: up from one point five.

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01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:53,920
Speaker 2: To two billion.

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01:06:55,760 --> 01:07:01,120
Speaker 1: That's that is very, very impressive. And you head towards

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01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:05,920
Speaker 1: this bottom of this article on CNBC and you realize

1259
01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:09,200
Speaker 1: Pepsi is going to cut prices on packages and select

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01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:15,040
Speaker 1: brands Lays, Tostitos, Dorito's, and Cheetos, and then price cuts.

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01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:19,320
Speaker 1: Two key brands like Layers, Tostitos, Gatorade, and Quaker have

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01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:24,880
Speaker 1: been undergoing makeovers, including simple ingredients, simpler ingredients, and new

1263
01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:26,840
Speaker 1: packaging to bring back customers.

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01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:31,160
Speaker 2: So I never left. Does this a true story? Does

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01:07:31,240 --> 01:07:33,800
Speaker 2: this mean that the economy is improving?

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01:07:34,560 --> 01:07:38,080
Speaker 1: Or does this mean that people have moved to cheaper

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01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:42,040
Speaker 1: junk food because they can't afford other foods and Pepsi's

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01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:42,800
Speaker 1: just trying to keep them.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting because I don't know if we did the

1270
01:07:46,680 --> 01:07:51,400
Speaker 2: story last week the CEO of Amazon saying that terriffs

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01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:54,280
Speaker 2: Jase Yes, that tariffs were starting to have an impact

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01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:55,919
Speaker 2: on the bottom line, and we're going to start seeing

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01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:58,720
Speaker 2: price increases there. But then you're seeing other things decrease,

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01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:00,760
Speaker 2: like the price of fuel. The price of eggs has

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01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:04,120
Speaker 2: calming down, you know. Now you're seeing the price of snacks.

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01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:06,880
Speaker 2: It's like somethings are going up, some things are going down.

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01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:13,520
Speaker 2: These are just weird times, and I, for one to

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01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:17,400
Speaker 2: get completely sidetracked this conversation, Tony, I have to ask

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01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:20,920
Speaker 2: you of these snacks. I don't see you as a

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01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:24,200
Speaker 2: dorito guy, as a as a I like a good dorito.

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01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:27,080
Speaker 2: When's the last time you had a Dorito, I don't

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01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:32,799
Speaker 2: know whenever the kids brought him home. Really yeah, Cheeto, Cheeto.

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01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:38,599
Speaker 1: Maybe it was something that was given in a Halloween

1284
01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:42,040
Speaker 1: thing and I'm like, yep, I'll take those, right, I

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01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:43,240
Speaker 1: will steal that from my kids.

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Speaker 2: Cheetos are so underrated. Everybody wants to reach for those

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01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:50,240
Speaker 2: that dorito bag. But Cheetos. Don't sleep on Cheetos.

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01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:54,360
Speaker 1: Don't sleep on Cheetos. Tostitos a corn chip like a

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01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:56,200
Speaker 1: tortilla chip that I can have with glack them only.

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Speaker 2: That's kind of standard in my life. You not necessarily

1291
01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:05,679
Speaker 2: but cornschips. Yeah, you eat tostitos, corn chips or whatever

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01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:08,360
Speaker 2: we have. I just figured you to be, you know,

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01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:12,040
Speaker 2: a little bit on the uh. Go to Trader Joe's

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Speaker 2: to get the Oh.

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Speaker 1: We've got those, okay, ten thousand percent, we've got those.

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Speaker 1: But I do eat them when it comes to my

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Speaker 1: steaks though, I only get those from Defiance Beef right

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Speaker 1: here in Indiana, delivered directly to your door. Defiancebeef dot com. Jacob,

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Speaker 1: a quarter cow, a half cow, a full cow cut

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Speaker 1: to your specifications. You can even right now, get mini shares,

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Speaker 1: just a couple of steaks, a couple of things to try,

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Speaker 1: directly to your door frozen perfect just right on the grill,

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Speaker 1: get one hundred and fifty dollars off your order. I

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Speaker 1: look at this in the economy, and I say, you

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Speaker 1: know you're right about eggs, and you're right about gas prices.

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Speaker 1: What will be the things that need to happen for

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Speaker 1: people to say this economy is all right, and so

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Speaker 1: there are overall beef prices, and do people feel that

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Speaker 1: they can go out to dinner with the family again? Right?

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Speaker 1: So some of it has to do with the actual

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Speaker 1: pricing of actual goods. Some of it's gonna have to

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Speaker 1: do with whether or not we're only a people buying

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Speaker 1: luxury goods, whether we're buying the everyday things again, and

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Speaker 1: then do you feel at the end of a day,

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Speaker 1: at week, a month there's money in your pocket to

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Speaker 1: take the family out to dinner. That is now one's

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Speaker 1: a little harder to track, But that expendable income conversation,

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Speaker 1: that's when people say, you know what, We're starting to

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Speaker 1: see a result, and there is an interesting bit of

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Speaker 1: good news in this economic Look, if I have it right,

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Speaker 1: manufacturing was up for the first time in like nine months.

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Speaker 1: Manufacturing has taken a hit with tariffs and all of

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Speaker 1: this downward pressure. We have not seen manufacturing in the

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Speaker 1: US on an upswing. A little bit of a tick

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Speaker 1: up in the last month, and that's a very good sign.

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Speaker 1: Nowt it's only one give me three of those. Give

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Speaker 1: me three of those, and.

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Speaker 2: You are going to see people say, all right, we're

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01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:44,360
Speaker 2: moving in the right direction. I think that also people

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Speaker 2: are looking and hoping that some costs are going to

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Speaker 2: come down, which I don't think is going to happen.

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Speaker 2: On say car prices or car insurance. You know, property

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Speaker 2: taxes for a lot of people continue to go up.

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Speaker 2: And now you're seeing reports where, depending on what part

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Speaker 2: of the country you live in, energy prices, electricity going

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Speaker 2: through the roof and no warning. It feels like, just

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Speaker 2: like overnight, people have have huge increases in electricity. So

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Speaker 2: I think they're, well, yes, my goodness, it'd be great

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Speaker 2: if beef prices come down. I think there are a

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Speaker 2: lot of other things that need to at least stabilize

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Speaker 2: for people to say, okay, things are the ship is

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Speaker 2: starting to be righted.

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Speaker 1: And if for everybody who's listening to us in Tennessee

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Speaker 1: and those surrounding areas, you guys went through hell with

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Speaker 1: the ice and the power lines and the power not

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Speaker 1: being able to keep up, and it took some people

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Speaker 1: a week to get their power back. I think there

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Speaker 1: are still some people without power, and there's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a real conversation if you think that state run utilities

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Speaker 1: are a good idea. There's gonna be a lot of

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Speaker 1: talk about these kinds of things, and also how you

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Speaker 1: handle it when when weird stuff happens, when the grid

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Speaker 1: goes down. The idea that you're paying more for electricity,

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Speaker 1: and then you're down for a week plus, and then

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Speaker 1: someone's gonna say, well, you know what we really need

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Speaker 1: here is a rate increase to be able to handle

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Speaker 1: these wild weather patterns. That's good also to get people.

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Speaker 2: Nutty and things are just prices. We talked about this

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Speaker 2: last week.

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Speaker 1: I saw.

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Speaker 2: A Costco influencer, Tony doing a video the other day.

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Speaker 2: A listen. I can't tell you the exact size, but

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Speaker 2: I believe it was a frigidare chest freezer. You said

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Speaker 2: ninety nine dollars. I mean, some of these prices are.

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Speaker 2: It's just I cannot believe you can get a chest

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Speaker 2: freezer for ninety nine dollars. Now, who knows if it's

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Speaker 2: going to last, you know, twenty years. But my goodness,

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Speaker 2: there are some affordable buys out there if you look

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Speaker 2: for them.

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Speaker 1: So is that that people aren't buying them at all?

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Speaker 1: It's considered a luxury and they're just not doing it,

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Speaker 1: and so they they got to move the unit. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: just better to get something than other.

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Speaker 2: I just know, if I'm gonna get a quarter cow

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Speaker 2: from Defiance Beef, I want a chest freezer. I have

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Speaker 2: a chest freezer and I need another one. Well, I

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Speaker 2: know where you can get one for ninety nine dollars.

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Speaker 2: I need I have a nice size one.

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Speaker 1: I'm ordering a larger cow.

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Speaker 2: I'll send you the link to the Costco influencer Costco Influence.

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Speaker 2: Now you see that should be AI. I'm telling you, man,

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Speaker 2: AI playing these parts bad for everybody. Well, some of

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Speaker 2: these warehouses, their hot dogs taste like AI, not Costco though,

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Speaker 2: that's the real deal.

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Speaker 1: You are so gunning for that sponsorship. You want to

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Speaker 1: be the spokesperson of Costco hot dog.

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Speaker 2: Just the onion gun. That's all I care about. I

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Speaker 2: want one. We're start creating ads for Costco. They're not

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Speaker 2: even gonna know it, just fingers talking about hot dogs.

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