Speaker 1: The Frames per Second Podcast.
Speaker 2: All right, welcome to the Frames per Second Podcast, where
Speaker 2: we are reviewing the brand new Netflix show, The vent
Speaker 2: Staples Show. This is season two, six episodes of the
Speaker 2: dark dramedy. They're calling it not supposed to be too funny,
Speaker 2: but funny enough. So I'll go around the room here
Speaker 2: to see what you guys start about it. Rod, what
Speaker 2: do you think about the venta?
Speaker 1: I don't think it too much of a face. I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, it's not I don't know if
Speaker 2: it's hitting the way that he wants it to. And
Speaker 2: I said this about the last one to a certain extent,
Speaker 2: and I thought because of the second one, he would
Speaker 2: get there. Don't know if he ever heard our review,
Speaker 2: and I know he fucked with us, man, But I
Speaker 2: hate to be critical, but I just got to be honest.
Speaker 2: It's just like it's it's missing somewhere. I like some
Speaker 2: of the commentary on it, but I think overall it
Speaker 2: doesn't quite get there for me. But I do like
Speaker 2: some of the commentary in it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I would love for him to come on the show
Speaker 2: and explain this ship, honestly, just like ship that I'm
Speaker 2: missing that I might be.
Speaker 1: Missing or whatever.
Speaker 2: But but but nah, it's it's just it's just okay
Speaker 2: to me. It's just okay to me. It's it's not
Speaker 2: it's not great, and I thought it would. And that's
Speaker 2: what I said about the last It's not great, but
Speaker 2: it's cool, you know what I mean? And I guess
Speaker 2: it's just kind of still there and honestly like a
Speaker 2: little bit less than that.
Speaker 1: First. I hate that because I fu with.
Speaker 2: It's heavy and he knows it and I and I
Speaker 2: would like, I said, I would love for him to
Speaker 2: come on the show and explain it. But yeah, we
Speaker 2: get into what didn't work for you? Rob, Mike, what
Speaker 2: do you think about it? It was all right, same thing.
Speaker 3: No, I think I might have liked it a little
Speaker 3: bit more than Rod. But it was it was fine,
Speaker 3: and there were there were This one had more of
Speaker 3: like a weird horror edge to it. So I was entertained.
Speaker 3: I was entertained.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 3: We said before at least I said, I don't want
Speaker 3: to blame y'all. I said before that it feels very
Speaker 3: much like his version of Atlanta. Yeah, this felt even
Speaker 3: more like his version of Atlanta. But I think I
Speaker 3: enjoyed it just as much as the first season, maybe
Speaker 3: maybe even a little bit more because I mean that
Speaker 3: episode where they were in the car had me in
Speaker 3: literal tears.
Speaker 1: Damn episode.
Speaker 3: So I think him taking like a darker turn for
Speaker 3: this one was a good move.
Speaker 1: So Nah, I liked it.
Speaker 2: He did come out and say this would be darker
Speaker 2: than the first time you did. I mean, some of
Speaker 2: that stuff worked for him in the first one, but Ken,
Speaker 2: what'd you think.
Speaker 1: One? I'm glad that it was only two and a
Speaker 1: half hours for all six episodes, even though I wish
Speaker 1: I feel like you probably need I don't know why
Speaker 1: he's only doing twenty to twenty three minutes, but maybe
Speaker 1: that's all they can give them. But overall, I enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: I liked the darker horror side that he was doing
Speaker 1: with it. You know, some clear messaging, so I'm not
Speaker 1: so clear. You know, you have to kind of really
Speaker 1: think a process what's going on? From me? The standout
Speaker 1: was the mall oh yes, I mean she yes. She
Speaker 1: was absolutely brilliant. It felt like Vince was doing a
Speaker 1: lot of attempts at acting. He was trying to act
Speaker 1: more this one with certain facial expressions and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: When the first one I felt like he was just
Speaker 1: being him, and this one it felt like he was
Speaker 1: trying to put on some acting chops in certain certain scenes,
Speaker 1: especially early on. But a show about Vince Staples being
Speaker 1: vent Staple is an interesting sort of we're a meta
Speaker 1: type show that you're doing, like, because there was a
Speaker 1: lot of that in this movie, about him being in
Speaker 1: this world but also being a superstar in this world
Speaker 1: and arn't you making the show winners in that sad
Speaker 1: sort of thing though he.
Speaker 2: Was doing that worked for me. That was one of
Speaker 2: my favorite things about it, Like just the meta version
Speaker 2: of like, oh, this is vn Staples, but it's an
Speaker 2: exaggerated version, almost like some Curb Your Enthusiasm Sinfield type stuff.
Speaker 2: So that was pretty cool. I agree with you, Ken.
Speaker 2: The mother also stand out, like I feel like in
Speaker 2: the episode that she weren't in definitely declined from the
Speaker 2: episodes that she were in I did, And I feel
Speaker 2: like it started high and then I was with you
Speaker 2: rot and start like just going downhill. By the time
Speaker 2: you get to episode six, he's like, Okay, I'm glad
Speaker 2: this exists, but I may could have enjoyed it more
Speaker 2: if something else were in there, maybe some more comedic
Speaker 2: people that I recognized, maybe some other actors, but it
Speaker 2: definitely lacked something. But I did still enjoy it. I
Speaker 2: appreciated it. I liked the dark term. Like you said, Mike,
Speaker 2: I did like the horror feel of it as well.
Speaker 2: So all in all, it was worth the two and
Speaker 2: a half hour watch. I thought it was gonna be
Speaker 2: six hours as first as an hour episode, so I'm
Speaker 2: glad it was twenty eight minutes. I'm glad that they
Speaker 2: didn't do that. I forgot, like you said, right, that
Speaker 2: they do the shorter shows.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, they show.
Speaker 2: Icked it pretty quickly.
Speaker 1: I like that it exists too, I will say that. Yep.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 2: So the first episode is called Country Maine's Fun. In
Speaker 2: this Vents, of course, is a vicxenalized character of himself.
Speaker 2: He begins the new season really from the death of
Speaker 2: his uncle James Brown. His uncle James, he re embarked,
Speaker 2: excuse me. He embarks on a road trip with his
Speaker 2: mam and Nia and his sister Brie, and the whole
Speaker 2: theme for this episode is grief, family legacy, and departure
Speaker 2: from his usual environment. Where it's leaving the beach and
Speaker 2: going to his uncle's funeral. Did this first episode jump
Speaker 2: out to you guys, Like, what did you think about it?
Speaker 1: Watching?
Speaker 2: It's probably one of my It's probably my favorite episode
Speaker 2: out of the whole ship. I like the start, like
Speaker 2: and I kind of felt like I wish it would
Speaker 2: have kind of stayed here on like more like industry
Speaker 2: type of ship than the whole O Jay Elite is
Speaker 2: type ship that they that they did this is. I
Speaker 2: think I wanted more of this and it kind of
Speaker 2: started kind of veering away from this this idea, like
Speaker 2: we didn't even hear about this shit anymore. Like you know,
Speaker 2: when we tell you I could, I could let you
Speaker 2: know about the music industry or whatever. You know you're
Speaker 2: talking about the interaction with the producer, Yeah, I like.
Speaker 1: I like that.
Speaker 2: I like what they did with that, you know, I
Speaker 2: feel like he's closer to that. I don't know any
Speaker 2: I don't know, yeah, I don't know. I feel like
Speaker 2: he's closer than that than what what the story ended
Speaker 2: up being about.
Speaker 1: He just completely shipped on that producer in front of
Speaker 1: the knowing it was a producer.
Speaker 2: I felt like it was going there when he was saying, Man,
Speaker 2: this team don't do nothing for it. I gotta do
Speaker 2: right here was that funny that you.
Speaker 1: Can I was still trying to get back into like
Speaker 1: his sort of comedic style. You know, it's it's very dry, deadpan.
Speaker 1: You hear the line, there's no you know, it's no
Speaker 1: laugh track or anything like that. But I think for me, man,
Speaker 1: it was just the mama that she stood out immediately asap,
Speaker 1: like cussing his ass out every single moment. I wanted
Speaker 1: to see less events in the first Yeah, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: Like when he went to the to the machine and
Speaker 1: then they got stuck and then he ran and jumped
Speaker 1: into it.
Speaker 2: That's not how you do it. Got a rocketbacker, you
Speaker 2: got to do it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know him, you know, giving the guy money,
Speaker 1: getting the car told you know, all that stuff. I did,
Speaker 1: like when he threatens and the rap, it was like,
Speaker 1: my mom was crazy and like that.
Speaker 2: That was good and I think he do a good
Speaker 2: job in acting. And when he pulled him to the
Speaker 2: side and I didn't talk to you. What do you
Speaker 2: think about it? I liked this episode. I thought it
Speaker 2: was funny. I thought it was funny.
Speaker 3: Yeah, his mom definitely took a bit of the shine
Speaker 3: from Vince, but no, I.
Speaker 1: Was it was good and I don't even know if
Speaker 1: she was acting.
Speaker 2: Bro, she's underrated. Yeah, she's great. She's dope. She's definitely.
Speaker 2: It seems like he told her this is how my
Speaker 2: mom and just do this time.
Speaker 1: Go to Tom for a minute.
Speaker 2: But in the interviews and stuff he talks about, he
Speaker 2: was like, Tyler's mom is like that. He was like,
Speaker 2: me and my mom are friends, Like it's my homegrol Yeah,
Speaker 2: so like they talked to each other like, which I
Speaker 2: found out hilarious. Rob, what the grocery scene, you had
Speaker 2: some interesting shots from like a camera angle that part
Speaker 2: aesthetically like this ship is great the yeah, uh cinematography.
Speaker 2: I've always commended him on that. With his music videos,
Speaker 2: even the arts and creative ship that he does. He's
Speaker 2: very you just wouldn't think this is from a gangster.
Speaker 1: Us dude, like like the should he be doing. You
Speaker 1: just wouldn't expect that.
Speaker 2: So it's always just like it's just always surprising to
Speaker 2: me that he's just that creative. So but now it's
Speaker 2: dope though, It's it's like one of those you can't
Speaker 2: judge his book box cover, Like the dude is fucking
Speaker 2: dope when it comes to creativity. I think he wrote
Speaker 2: this shit too, he wrote he did a lot of
Speaker 2: writing on here, so but not for the shots and stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the shots were I'm trying to think of one in particular.
Speaker 2: Like he did a lot of pans. He did a
Speaker 2: lot of dollar work here. Yeah, man, he did some
Speaker 2: traditional traditional things here to good like bill making stuff. Right, No,
Speaker 2: he absolutely did.
Speaker 1: I know it's not that type of review, but I
Speaker 1: think Vin's talent speaks to the systemic issues we have
Speaker 1: because there's a lot of talent and creative people that
Speaker 1: are stuck that we don't get a chance to utilize
Speaker 1: their talent as he was just one man did. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Like even the lighting on the on the on the
Speaker 2: countryman Mini Cooper, that was dope. He called that ship countryman.
Speaker 2: That's funny, but it's a countryman. It's called countrymen. Uh,
Speaker 2: it's the type of Mini Cooper. It's like there de
Speaker 2: luxe version, yeah or whatever. But even though they lit
Speaker 2: that ship was dope. So I like how Vince was
Speaker 2: presenting as to I've been going through this ship with
Speaker 2: my uncle. I ain't shaved, I ain't done none of
Speaker 2: this and how that comes back and he tell dude
Speaker 2: to google him, yeah, and he look at it. White
Speaker 2: dude was like, I think that's you. That was funny. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Like that was one of the laugh out moments for me.
Speaker 2: And then especially when black dude walked through it and
Speaker 2: he was like, man, tell them who I am.
Speaker 1: He was like, you now he he took. He kind
Speaker 1: of took. I know that. I know. The mother was great,
Speaker 1: but man, his his cameo was fun stellar. He did
Speaker 1: a good job.
Speaker 4: He came out and pulled his shirt up and it
Speaker 4: had the.
Speaker 1: Name I was like, oh no, you fucked up Vin.
Speaker 2: And I think this was good commentary on because Vince
Speaker 2: don't seem like one of those type of dudes where
Speaker 2: he tell people a lot like, man, you can google
Speaker 2: who I am, Like he could come up as Jerry
Speaker 2: Regular very just so I'm sure that this happens to him.
Speaker 2: And I really enjoyed how he told that story on.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I did like the I didn't even know
Speaker 1: I could grow up here. Bro.
Speaker 2: Yeah he looked like scruffy rough like he's a good point.
Speaker 1: I never realized. Yeah he does. He is like kind
Speaker 1: of baby face like shape and ship like Vin's going
Speaker 1: through it. Bro.
Speaker 2: I didn't think about that part anything else about episode one. No,
Speaker 2: Like I feel like this was probably there was a
Speaker 2: fight in this episode, right yeah.
Speaker 1: Between him and the black dude, a big black dude.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because he's I'm black built niggah like fun
Speaker 2: when he was fucking.
Speaker 1: Oh that was funny. Yeah, it was good. And the
Speaker 1: mom taking shots with the clerk. She was like, he said,
Speaker 1: I can't let you drive even here shots the whole time.
Speaker 2: Yea, even like the subtle ship, like when he when
Speaker 2: he did hit the subtle machine and it's and the
Speaker 2: little thing from his uncle came out, you know, the
Speaker 2: back the little promo ad had.
Speaker 1: Dripped and it was just it was just like a
Speaker 1: little sidebar.
Speaker 2: But it came back around when she was sitting there
Speaker 2: and she looked over and it was him, and I
Speaker 2: was just like, damn, that's cool or whatever because I
Speaker 2: forgot all about that OJ was his uncle from the
Speaker 2: first season. Well it is James.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny, like it's creative.
Speaker 2: It is a funny thing to do alright. Next is
Speaker 2: episode two. This isn't called the Petting Zoo and while
Speaker 2: on the road or just after the trip began, Vince
Speaker 2: intervenes and the ongoing beef between the mam and Nita
Speaker 2: and the sister breath landing the family of the sketchy
Speaker 2: roadside pitch stop and he's caught between the rolls of son,
Speaker 2: brother and mediator. This is the majority of this episode
Speaker 2: was arguing in the car. Did this work for you guys?
Speaker 1: Mm? Absolutely, this was hilarious.
Speaker 3: The mom was giving it to the Oh my god,
Speaker 3: but I swear to God when when she popped the
Speaker 3: door and this was like, man, you can't just leave
Speaker 3: my mom on the side of the road.
Speaker 1: And she was like, I'm not gonna leave. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be that ass. And then the mama was like what come?
Speaker 1: Come on? She got and the way she ran right
Speaker 1: was so funny. She said take me back to the
Speaker 1: old school or something like that. This worked for me
Speaker 1: because she said she had just fallot somebody else right right,
Speaker 1: she wanted some smoke.
Speaker 3: It did make me want to go back and rewatched
Speaker 3: the first season because I couldn't figure why they were fighting.
Speaker 2: I couldn't remember something happened at the had something happened
Speaker 2: at They never showed it, right, I don't think so
Speaker 2: it was something with the macaroni. I remember vaguely it
Speaker 2: was something with the Auntie mac Garni.
Speaker 1: But they made it seem like it was it was
Speaker 1: another incident.
Speaker 2: That Yeah, I do remember the macaroni incident though, when
Speaker 2: she was like man because she said something about.
Speaker 1: I do remember that.
Speaker 3: But I think in the next episode they did explain
Speaker 3: that what they were fighting about.
Speaker 2: But I thought it was something we never actually saw
Speaker 2: what she said that you didn't even call. You just
Speaker 2: left me to deal with them, but yourself, you didn't
Speaker 2: show up as well.
Speaker 1: And then she and then she said, well, write a letter,
Speaker 1: bitch that you blocked me.
Speaker 2: She had some bars she.
Speaker 1: Had that she has to be in prov Yeah, and
Speaker 1: the system was funny too. I mean she has She was.
Speaker 2: She was a girl in the car like one of
Speaker 2: the one of the finals in the last season.
Speaker 1: But she was in the car.
Speaker 2: She was she was like one of the girlfriends of
Speaker 2: a boy named not paper Boy, Oh.
Speaker 3: Lovely key Stanfield, motherfucker, oh boy ship loo Key saying
Speaker 3: Phil did you say Keith.
Speaker 1: I didn't hear you say Keith.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry I didn't hear you say yeah, Keith. Yeah,
Speaker 2: she was in the car with him and she was
Speaker 2: going off and and ship. I do remember that that's her.
Speaker 2: That's it's one of one of the final episodes. I
Speaker 2: think it's the last episode. Actually got out of the
Speaker 2: car something you got the.
Speaker 1: Car and ship. Yeah, yeah, that's her.
Speaker 2: She's also an abbot too elementary. Yeah, she's one of
Speaker 2: the she's one of the parents they kept bringing up
Speaker 2: to reoccur. That was hilarious.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's why they were doing that then. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because he's recent.
Speaker 2: Vince played in it, and there was another dude this
Speaker 2: day was like minion check he plays in it too.
Speaker 1: But yeah, this this whole thing was was good. At
Speaker 1: the abortion jokes funny. It was so little down bro.
Speaker 2: It was like and in his little commentary like that's
Speaker 2: sucked up, ship man.
Speaker 1: That was funny that this was good.
Speaker 2: I wasn't crazy about the gas station part though, Oh
Speaker 2: your really, Oh my god, that ship was so good
Speaker 2: extra it just seemed a little too over the top
Speaker 2: for me.
Speaker 1: In the gas station.
Speaker 2: I don't know what did y'all like about the gas
Speaker 2: station were hiding from the dude you talk about it like, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's like what she ran him over? He ran that
Speaker 2: part that was hilarious. Run aver apart was was funny.
Speaker 1: She said, keep going, nigga, right, I would have made sure.
Speaker 1: That's why I would have pulled it back. She was
Speaker 1: so fucking she was.
Speaker 2: I was. It was like the first three episodes that
Speaker 2: for real, laugh out loud.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the car scene was fucking great.
Speaker 2: Cried when they hit dude, bro, nigga, keep going.
Speaker 1: Then he started like you're not gonna go back. You're like, nope,
Speaker 1: we ran out of gas. And then the gas station
Speaker 1: just appeared out of nowhere and he saw the price
Speaker 1: of the gas.
Speaker 2: Yeah it was six six sixty.
Speaker 1: It is corny, but it was still funny.
Speaker 2: I was saying like this part was just a little
Speaker 2: coin and the sister was like, I ain't going into
Speaker 2: some Omiuni gas.
Speaker 1: She disappeared out of and then she said I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna stay in this car. Right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all of that was good, but you said the
Speaker 2: gas station stuff was too over the top, like hide
Speaker 2: and thinking the dude was a killer and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: That was did did the payoff work though it being
Speaker 2: a jerky business, they would just be like nice white guy.
Speaker 2: He was like, sorry to get your car with my body.
Speaker 1: And then the system ended up bonding over it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, talking about he was he was sexy and some ship.
Speaker 1: I was like, Na, that was funny. She looked like
Speaker 1: that too. I liked.
Speaker 3: I liked this whole episode, especially like when they found oh,
Speaker 3: they're just making jerky, but then they imply that it's
Speaker 3: human jerky, because that gets that gets brought up multiple
Speaker 3: times throughout the episode, keeps saying that there's a plot
Speaker 3: from the government to kill black people and make him
Speaker 3: in the plant based meats.
Speaker 1: I was dying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude brought it up. Then all you know about
Speaker 2: the plant base. So that was it again, Like you said,
Speaker 2: they do. The sister and the mother get back to
Speaker 2: like having a good relationship.
Speaker 1: So that was pretty.
Speaker 2: Good, right to him going to the third wheel so
Speaker 2: much so.
Speaker 1: He was like, what do he say? I got the
Speaker 1: What did he say? I got the I got? I
Speaker 1: got the Katana some ship?
Speaker 2: He said, all right, So that's it for episode two.
Speaker 2: Episode three was entitled God's Will. Here, Vince arrived at
Speaker 2: his late uncle's match and emptier and then expected following
Speaker 2: the will reading, he begins uncovering skeletons in the closet.
Speaker 2: His uncle, of course, left the house to him. Uh
Speaker 2: so Vince has to stay there by himself. Mike being
Speaker 2: a horror horror guy, What do you think about this episode,
Speaker 2: how they try to lean into this.
Speaker 4: I'm actually trying to remember what happened in this one.
Speaker 3: I know ship kept falling off the walls and breaking
Speaker 3: and stuff, But what what was Oj?
Speaker 1: He saw Oj leave out of the It was like
Speaker 1: a spirit that was a white woman on the road
Speaker 1: that he ran into. Tried to give him a mirror
Speaker 1: and he.
Speaker 2: Said, you're gonna need it because I'm gonna pop up
Speaker 2: to the back of you.
Speaker 1: And of course it happened.
Speaker 3: This one was okay, this was the one I like.
Speaker 3: I said, I just don't really even remember a lot
Speaker 3: of what happened in this episode.
Speaker 1: This was my least favorite episode.
Speaker 2: Nothing really happened decline for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well, because even the guy was smoking crack
Speaker 1: or whatever.
Speaker 3: Oh no, that was funny. Wait, that's right, that was funny.
Speaker 3: You didn't like that part. I didn't think it was
Speaker 3: all that funny. Why did you think it was funny?
Speaker 1: Because it reminded me of Spike? What ship? The guy
Speaker 1: said he was from Nashville.
Speaker 2: He did, he said it was I'm joking.
Speaker 1: Okay, maybe he did, but he was smoking crack of
Speaker 1: the car.
Speaker 2: And I thought of Spike because talking about the lawyer, Yeah,
Speaker 2: because b had just put that ship in there about
Speaker 2: the crack smoking and I was like, this is what
Speaker 2: Spike was talking about.
Speaker 1: This dude smoking crack and he's trying to go out
Speaker 1: in the car. And then the white woman. That one
Speaker 1: was still kind of fun.
Speaker 3: It's funny to me. When that white lady walked up
Speaker 3: and pulled her shirt and showed the gun. That was hilarious.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, it was like, did that Yeah, I
Speaker 3: didn't realized the kid did that.
Speaker 1: He didn't say it was.
Speaker 2: I thought that was heroin or something he was smoking,
Speaker 2: like shrews.
Speaker 1: I didn't think that was cracked.
Speaker 2: As it was, because yeah, because I thought it was.
Speaker 2: It was Yeah, to use the loom before and then
Speaker 2: the ya.
Speaker 1: That's definitely a crack. It was shrooms.
Speaker 2: He was something not sho smoke. Yeah, because you say
Speaker 2: I thought it was like acid or heroin, bro I
Speaker 2: thought pipe brow seeing people smoke heroin like that. Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm just saying.
Speaker 1: I just know I saw a pipe.
Speaker 3: But smoking heroin is not popular enough to where they
Speaker 3: put that in the show. I'm pretty sure that were smoking,
Speaker 3: because he had like the little marks on his face
Speaker 3: that you get from smoking cracks.
Speaker 2: You know, because they were like, what's wrong, and I
Speaker 2: thought it was like myth I thought maybe it's because
Speaker 2: they smoked myth on. They smell and that makes you
Speaker 2: lose snake too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because yeah, because they had a little there. I
Speaker 1: was like, why did they have this weird kind of
Speaker 1: fish bowl shot or whatever. I'm like, why did you
Speaker 1: do that? They did? Yeah, yeah, but then they turned
Speaker 1: them into the animated character, so I guess.
Speaker 2: That's I love the family's reaction to it too. They
Speaker 2: was like, nah, we got to see what's up with him?
Speaker 2: Yeah outside, Yeah, and this one was still kind of
Speaker 2: funny and that one, Yeah, this was the last time
Speaker 2: I feel like I laughed out loud. Yeah, like I said,
Speaker 2: it's still had had its its Lord Like, it's still
Speaker 2: it still kept it. It's just I kept from like
Speaker 2: something else was missing.
Speaker 1: And the mama really carried the ship. Yeah. His uncle
Speaker 1: asked for some money and then he said you gotta
Speaker 1: vest back into the community or something like that, and
Speaker 1: he saying something like that, recycling them dollars or something.
Speaker 1: I forgot what is actually he said, But and then
Speaker 1: I guess the homeless woman she was was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, you need to go get get out of here.
Speaker 1: It's not safe for You're like, it's not safe for you.
Speaker 2: Did y'all like how they tried to reenact the OJ
Speaker 2: chase with Vince ben in the car?
Speaker 1: Was that funny? Only when the mama came on and
Speaker 1: said told him to keep going to run. That wasn't
Speaker 1: a reenact part. That was the actual moment.
Speaker 2: They were trying to say that they had a baby
Speaker 2: in the whole time the chase.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Vince was in the car.
Speaker 2: I thought that was interesting saying that he was in
Speaker 2: the car, because you don't know who else was in
Speaker 2: the car. It could have been a baby in that
Speaker 2: fucking car. I thought that was or whatever. But so
Speaker 2: I did like that. I did like that, Yeah, because
Speaker 2: I don't think it was a reenactment. I think it
Speaker 2: just was that was a version of the version of
Speaker 2: what happened.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know the commentary between the homes women and
Speaker 1: a Vince you know about O Jay and you know kind.
Speaker 2: Of did those moments work because he did them throughout.
Speaker 2: He did the best the music industry. I do like elite,
Speaker 2: Like he take time to put those in there. I
Speaker 2: thought those stood out.
Speaker 1: They were Yeah, I thought I thought it was cool.
Speaker 1: And it was the only part that I kind of like,
Speaker 1: you know, in this episode, because it was just him
Speaker 1: chasing Ojay, you know. So yeah, other than the lawyers,
Speaker 1: that was all right.
Speaker 2: Episode four, venturing further into the elite social club world
Speaker 2: that his uncle had access to, Vince makes a delivery
Speaker 2: to the club and encounters people in settings he doesn't
Speaker 2: belong to. A Familiar face, though offers no help isolating
Speaker 2: him even further.
Speaker 1: Mike black King, what you think? Oh this one? Did
Speaker 1: you think about this? Black King?
Speaker 3: This one was good because I was like, what the
Speaker 3: fuck are we doing with this?
Speaker 2: What Atlanta had an episode like this?
Speaker 1: Why you gotta do that? You're just trying to ship
Speaker 1: on Vince. I'm not. I'm not. I'm just trying to I'm.
Speaker 2: Just you don't want to say it was I did,
Speaker 2: but I have to feel I wasn't, like really was Damn.
Speaker 1: It just was fucked up. Man.
Speaker 3: Vin's gonna see about you. And what did you not
Speaker 3: like about it? You said it was just like Atlanta? Yeah,
Speaker 3: because in Atlanta, it was it was like this.
Speaker 2: This one in particular was very much like that that
Speaker 2: episode in Atlanta when they went to the Leader Black,
Speaker 2: the Leader's place.
Speaker 3: They want to get more details, he said, the Vince
Speaker 3: Staples show is not Atlanta.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fucked up, man. No, no, but I like
Speaker 2: his version of it though. But I let Mike go.
Speaker 2: I'll get my my my commentary on it after you
Speaker 2: already did.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: I got more to say, damn, especially about this one.
Speaker 2: Not in a negative way, not in a negative way,
Speaker 2: not a neg way. I was gonna say what I
Speaker 2: liked about it. I just got a negative about the way.
Speaker 1: I like this one. Man. I thought the whole game
Speaker 1: was funny.
Speaker 3: They killed Masa. I thought this whole episode was funny
Speaker 3: as ship. But again I just kept because I was
Speaker 3: watching it late, so I kept thinking of my falling
Speaker 3: asleep because when he shut up with his face all
Speaker 3: beat up, I was like, Okay, what did I What
Speaker 3: did I miss?
Speaker 1: And I guess I didn't miss anything because they never really.
Speaker 2: That was between him and the producer.
Speaker 1: Dude, I believe we forgot to mention Lou was and
Speaker 1: was Lou was in this one. Lou from Power got
Speaker 1: that yet episode?
Speaker 3: But wait what the fight from with the producer? I
Speaker 3: thought was the episode, But that's where the bruise came from.
Speaker 3: He said, did he have it in the previous episode?
Speaker 1: He did? He got he got beat up the first
Speaker 1: one whole I did not notice it.
Speaker 3: So the whole episode where he was at the house
Speaker 3: that he had bought, I don't think he did.
Speaker 1: He Oh no, he got hit with the trophy. He
Speaker 1: got the trophy. We didn't see it. No, we didn't
Speaker 1: see it, but came and hit him.
Speaker 2: And that's why you should have had the mirror.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he said watch out, watch out. So by the
Speaker 1: time he got to the house, he was beat up.
Speaker 1: I just missed that part because I don't remember seeing that. No.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we didn't see him actually get beat up. He
Speaker 2: just so you know, he got cut off when the
Speaker 2: when the when he popped.
Speaker 1: Up somebody somebody robbed the house or something.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but nah, this episode was fucking funny, all the
Speaker 3: Mike king Ship and Black King, Black King.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this one was good. Did you like this with
Speaker 1: King mm hmmm yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I I did.
Speaker 1: It was it was weird. I didn't know. I was
Speaker 1: really trying to put together like what was he trying
Speaker 1: to say? What was he doing or he was just
Speaker 1: doing just being weird for the sake of being weird,
Speaker 1: like the my King stuff, all that stuff with all
Speaker 1: these white people, and he's like confused, He's like, what
Speaker 1: is going on? And whenever I walked, it was like, oh,
Speaker 1: here going massive. That ship, bro, that ship was funny,
Speaker 1: like oh they killed clearly he was the one that
Speaker 1: did it, and he just knew everybody just like oh yeah.
Speaker 1: Then he was like it was like uh he said, uh,
Speaker 1: He's like, oh, y'all niggas are weird, and he was like,
Speaker 1: we don't use that word, right. It was like because
Speaker 1: you can't, because you can't what you think? Noah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: this one was good.
Speaker 2: It was a little deeper for me though, because like,
Speaker 2: damn no, I feel like this is one of the
Speaker 2: cause its one like the mid episode, right, I feel
Speaker 2: like he wanted this one to be deeper, And I
Speaker 2: know I keep compared it to Atlanta, but I do
Speaker 2: think he did it in his own unique way about
Speaker 2: like just being in the black elite, right, And I
Speaker 2: think that you could tell that story with an OJ
Speaker 2: Like he even made reference to you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: Like how this is like the Rock Nation Brunch and
Speaker 2: this is just a that's what they try to be.
Speaker 2: They try to be this this social club, but they're
Speaker 2: not quite what this was or whatever.
Speaker 1: So trying that to OJ, the story of OJ that.
Speaker 2: Jay did about, like yeah, you you are accepted by
Speaker 2: these white people, but at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: you're still a nigga. And I feel like that's what
Speaker 2: That's what they were trying to communicate in this one,
Speaker 2: like Nah, you know, we'll call you Black King, we'll
Speaker 2: do all this shit, but nah, you can't leave this motherfucker,
Speaker 2: like you know what I'm saying, because you're still.
Speaker 1: A nigga at the end of the day.
Speaker 2: And that's which is why they still was trying to
Speaker 2: harm him, still trying to kill him.
Speaker 1: And I was just like yeah that, you know.
Speaker 2: I like how he tried to tell that story or
Speaker 2: whatever and make them feel comfortable so they'll stay in
Speaker 2: that bubble of elitism like uh or the whole bubble
Speaker 2: of like we just talked about is the mic stalone
Speaker 2: about black capitalists and stuff like that, and don't really
Speaker 2: give back to their community cause they're too busy trying
Speaker 2: to be part of the rock nation brunches and these
Speaker 2: trap of elitist social clubs. And I thought that was
Speaker 2: really good commentary on people like that or whatever. And
Speaker 2: that's probably why they just want to be part of
Speaker 2: this club. They're not worried about everybody else outside of this,
Speaker 2: and so they just stay in this bubble. I agree
Speaker 2: with that, and I love how adamant Bench was that.
Speaker 2: I don't want to be I don't want to be
Speaker 2: out of kids club. I'm trying to leave. I don't
Speaker 2: want nothing to do with this because even though I'm
Speaker 2: famous or whatever, may be.
Speaker 1: All the people on the walls. He's like, hell, so
Speaker 1: you've been here for weeks? He like. He was just like, wait,
Speaker 1: so how long you been there? Hours? Days, he said, weeks?
Speaker 2: So you know you think about these like you know
Speaker 2: people we like, I said, we just talked about it.
Speaker 2: I think dude don't have an elementary right there.
Speaker 1: Yeah he is too, Yeah he is too.
Speaker 2: What he was talking about, Yeah, it's system checks.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Now, I'm part of the club.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I'm part of the club now.
Speaker 1: Lou was in this one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna get to it when he went
Speaker 2: through the book, which y'all had gone through that bookcase.
Speaker 2: The book the bookcase open when he pulled it, and
Speaker 2: that's where he ran into loop. Oh he didn't want
Speaker 2: to though, No, he didn't want to. He tried to
Speaker 2: get out. They forced him into going into that room,
Speaker 2: but he didn't want to. He tried to find another
Speaker 2: way out, and they forcing them. This is where him
Speaker 2: and lou bounced to conspiracy theories off of each other.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because what did Lou say? But Louis woke but
Speaker 1: he was still stuck.
Speaker 2: I thought that was ray J at first, and.
Speaker 1: He was kind of like because Louis Lou, you could argue,
Speaker 1: was like in between, right, you know. But even he
Speaker 1: didn't want to leave because he was about to watch
Speaker 1: a double feature Sister Act or whatever it was said
Speaker 1: for context.
Speaker 2: The reason why I thought it was ray J Vince
Speaker 2: Vince always joke he says is always around for every
Speaker 2: key moment in Black, So I thought that was I
Speaker 2: thought he was going to play onto that joke that
Speaker 2: he always has to be on the show at something.
Speaker 1: At some point he.
Speaker 2: Got to Yeah, but I like this one a lot
Speaker 2: for the for those reason reasons.
Speaker 1: It was a lot.
Speaker 2: It was like one of the deeper episodes.
Speaker 1: Do y'all know how to play bid Wish?
Speaker 2: I did at one point, ye, but Space just trumps
Speaker 2: it for me.
Speaker 1: I'm surprised when.
Speaker 2: Like the old black game like space overtook bids with
Speaker 2: bid Wiz. Bid Wiz was the game, like every you
Speaker 2: know person played bid Wiz, but Space became the game.
Speaker 2: So I liked that they used bid Wiz like like
Speaker 2: instead of spades, because because space is just too too
Speaker 2: on the note you could yeah that like get the
Speaker 2: off my table, out of my my tape and thank
Speaker 2: you for your service or something like that. Space would
Speaker 2: have been too easy. And then the commentary about the
Speaker 2: war that was really good. So he was your vacation
Speaker 2: was on vacation that was fucked up. I really didn't
Speaker 2: do nothing over there that.
Speaker 1: Was fucked up. That was fucked up? Was it was?
Speaker 1: It's wrong, but it's not wrong. I just because they
Speaker 1: are on high alert at all times.
Speaker 2: Because then they said that about the desert storm to work.
Speaker 1: It's the same thing, is Isn't it nothing I was
Speaker 1: talking about? They said that that was that was?
Speaker 2: He said, Okayry he said Afghanistan was after Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: Desert storm was when we were I was thinking that
Speaker 2: storm the whole time. I saw that on something else.
Speaker 2: What else did we watched when it was talking about
Speaker 2: desert storm wasn't a real word? No, that was real
Speaker 2: and somebody else said it though in another movie or show.
Speaker 2: I remember the commentary. I didn't really do it was stormy.
Speaker 1: I thought they were real fighting. Am I thinking about
Speaker 1: the real fighting?
Speaker 3: But I think they're implying that they weren't real wars
Speaker 3: because it's just some ship America just kind of trump right.
Speaker 1: Oh. I thought when he was talking about the Afghanistan
Speaker 1: war he was he was saying that there were actually.
Speaker 2: Any firefights, That's what he meant.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But in the Desert Storm and the other ones,
Speaker 1: they were actually like firefights. Wait, live rounds. I'm confused.
Speaker 3: If he's talking about right after nine to eleven, they
Speaker 3: did go over there and kill people, so why would
Speaker 3: he I didn't take that that's that's what he was implying.
Speaker 3: I thought he was implying that there was a bullshit war,
Speaker 3: that's what That's what he was implying.
Speaker 1: But there were there were firefights there. I thought there
Speaker 1: was one where they just was basically over there, just
Speaker 1: occupying the place, not really doing Yeah, but they had,
Speaker 1: But how do you occupy you kill people first? They're
Speaker 1: just they're just not talking about that part.
Speaker 4: Unless I misunderstood the entire fucking context of this.
Speaker 1: That's what he was saying. Maybe I missed. I don't know.
Speaker 2: He's like, y'all really didn't do over there, right.
Speaker 3: I thought he was like, Oh, y'all just went over
Speaker 3: there to kill a bunch of people and took over
Speaker 3: their land.
Speaker 2: You didn't really fight, That's what he was saying.
Speaker 1: I see, I didn't take you that way. I thought
Speaker 1: they were just over there just because I mean they were,
Speaker 1: but I'm saying there were any any shooting, like they
Speaker 1: were like like you're taking rounds from like enemies, from
Speaker 1: the actual enemy. That's what I took it as. I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, would you think rob Win insulting the man so much?
Speaker 3: We could ask him, But I am not insulting.
Speaker 2: What y'all think about the fight scene, the fight scene
Speaker 2: which there was a fight scene at the end of.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, it was another fight by Vince when it
Speaker 1: was a I think it was violence and everyone it
Speaker 1: was because the white guy tried he was he was,
Speaker 1: and the white guy tried to stop him and he
Speaker 1: punched him and he just kept with Then he got out.
Speaker 2: He was trying to be he's trying to be nice,
Speaker 2: and it was like which way he would go, and
Speaker 2: he was like, this was like he went the others.
Speaker 1: As Yeah, because he told him the wrong way to
Speaker 1: get out. He was sending him back in. I think, Vince,
Speaker 1: He's like, oh, yes, right here. Yeah, it gave me.
Speaker 1: It gave me some shining vibes too. They tried I
Speaker 1: think that's what they tried to do. Yet. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: this this, this, this was good. This episode was good.
Speaker 1: I wanted to go back and watching this one all right.
Speaker 2: Then we moved to the penultimate episode, Mister Baldwin Vince's.
Speaker 2: Vince is the unwilling guest of honor at the Twisted
Speaker 2: Dinner party. We talked about him like the episode likely
Speaker 2: escalates his discomfort and elite settings who are forcing him
Speaker 2: to perform or represent. I'll start with, did y'all laugh
Speaker 2: out loud when y'all find out the suitmaker name with
Speaker 2: Steve Hardy? That was hilarious to me.
Speaker 1: Wow, I missed the name. But I didn't think it
Speaker 1: was important.
Speaker 2: That was hilarious to me because then the colony was
Speaker 2: like everybody with Steve Harvey.
Speaker 1: It's a complete opposite. Though, that one was a little
Speaker 1: on the nose from me. I thought that was great, man.
Speaker 2: I thought the that was really really good. And then
Speaker 2: his mom ment to Steve Harvey suit student later on
Speaker 2: because she was like, the uncle need to be buried
Speaker 2: in the white Steve Harvey suit I thought that is
Speaker 2: bro all right. So this one is mostly about the game?
Speaker 2: What story do I think they were trying to tell
Speaker 2: a narrative they were trying to push with the game events,
Speaker 2: figuring all of it out, essentially being the smartest nigg
Speaker 2: in the room.
Speaker 1: The massive game. Yep, I really I'm not sure.
Speaker 3: I found it funny, but I'm not all the way
Speaker 3: sure with what message he was trying to push. See well,
Speaker 3: since Rod already introduced the whole Atlanta thing, Atlanta didn't
Speaker 3: confuse me quite as much as Vincent's show does. I
Speaker 3: feel like, even with the weirder Atlanta shows, I can
Speaker 3: walk away and be like, well, I get what they
Speaker 3: were getting at this one. I still found it funny,
Speaker 3: but I'm hoping y'all can shed some light on what
Speaker 3: it meant.
Speaker 2: Which one this this is when they were playing the
Speaker 2: dinner the Dinner.
Speaker 1: Game mystery where so he didn't.
Speaker 2: Get out on the last one when he when when
Speaker 2: he was being the dude up, he never got on
Speaker 2: on the lady came out of nowhere and like now he.
Speaker 1: Woke up this way. That's right, that's right, because he
Speaker 1: thought she was trying to make sexual advance of that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was funny to ye this okay,
Speaker 2: so I got I can signed two episodes. This is
Speaker 2: where I feel like they were trying to do the
Speaker 2: commentary of like like you're still a nigga, Like we're
Speaker 2: not gonna let you out of here. This is where
Speaker 2: this is where I got that, apart from because.
Speaker 1: They were so they loved o J.
Speaker 2: And as much as o J thought he was accepted
Speaker 2: by the by this culture, they didn't.
Speaker 1: They didn't respect him. I got you on that part.
Speaker 1: But what did the massive stuff mean?
Speaker 3: Like the whole game of like mass is dying and
Speaker 3: I'm and Vince has to figure out who.
Speaker 4: It is that killed him. I didn't really get the
Speaker 4: message there.
Speaker 2: The murder mystery, right, right, you don't know the murder.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know about.
Speaker 3: That because it was all white people and Massa was
Speaker 3: obviously white. So I was just like, I don't really
Speaker 3: get it.
Speaker 2: I took that like when you're in corporate America and
Speaker 2: you do a presentation being a black man, or you
Speaker 2: do something and how oh you're so articulated and you
Speaker 2: like being that person. I feel that always underestimate. I
Speaker 2: get you have that one person who tried to like
Speaker 2: the mast was.
Speaker 1: I knew he could do it.
Speaker 3: I knew they weren't really expecting to be the one
Speaker 3: that fixed God.
Speaker 2: And they all were people that had some sort of
Speaker 2: hold on something, like one person was the president of
Speaker 2: this type of corporation and the lady was was like
Speaker 2: a very somebody. Yeah yeah, it's like so it was
Speaker 2: a room full of those people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get it now, that makes sense.
Speaker 2: They wouldn't expected him to be as bright as he was.
Speaker 1: Stinky booty or something like that. We go cancer, Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that was that was dirty.
Speaker 3: That that that makes this episode a lot more interesting
Speaker 3: because I could not figure out what they meant. It
Speaker 3: always reminds me remember that chick Barbara that we used
Speaker 3: to work with the boss. That was Anthony Braddy's like, yes,
Speaker 3: something she said that ship to me after presenting in
Speaker 3: the meeting one day. She was like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: you were just so articulate. I remember telling Adam, I
Speaker 3: was like, what did you expect? Like, I'm a miss male,
Speaker 3: What the fuck are you serious?
Speaker 2: I think that's what.
Speaker 1: She Probably Barbara didn't like you.
Speaker 4: No, I feel like I remember him saying that before too,
Speaker 4: because I think you lying.
Speaker 1: I think I thought liked you either. He either.
Speaker 3: He joked about it before. It just stuck in my brain,
Speaker 3: but I kind of remember like she was like some
Speaker 3: black dude. I don't know who it was.
Speaker 1: There was.
Speaker 4: Well, she used to be on me a lot about
Speaker 4: the same Barbara Barbara.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she was all over. I feel like I remember
Speaker 1: there seeing something about you.
Speaker 2: Too, the one the other chick didn't like you, But
Speaker 2: I thought Barbara liked you though.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: It was another one that didn't came with articulate enough.
Speaker 1: It was one that didn't though, but yeah, I thought
Speaker 1: Barbara did. Though.
Speaker 2: Barbaro was funny ship anything else, but she was funny
Speaker 2: right anything else?
Speaker 1: You know, I think just as a as a whole,
Speaker 1: this episode or the two episodes is really indicative events.
Speaker 1: It tells Vin's story about him not playing the game
Speaker 1: just in general. You listen to all his interviews, he's
Speaker 1: very open about what goes on with the industry corporated,
Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera. And this was him rejecting all
Speaker 1: of that, you know, not you know, it'sccumbing to it,
Speaker 1: and then using horror as a way to portray it
Speaker 1: as well. You know. So it's kind of dope. What
Speaker 1: he's doing is like, these are horror stories. You look
Speaker 1: at black people being ripped off historically in the music industry,
Speaker 1: that's what people say, that's horrified, that's horrible that happened,
Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 3: So see, I thought that same thing that you thought
Speaker 3: about the him not wanting to play the game. But
Speaker 3: then when the massive stuff just kept throwing me off,
Speaker 3: So I was like, Okay, the massive stuff doesn't fit.
Speaker 3: But I thought they were making a commentary of like, oh,
Speaker 3: Vince has figured out the game, so he doesn't want
Speaker 3: to play it because he already knows how this is
Speaker 3: going to play out for him.
Speaker 1: But it was just the massive stuff just kept throwing
Speaker 1: me off. I just didn't get it, I think it
Speaker 1: was just like because it was very very direct, Like
Speaker 1: his name is Massa, so it's almost maybe he just
Speaker 1: wanted to make sure that for some folks, it's like,
Speaker 1: we want you to understand explicitly, like the guy at
Speaker 1: the table is massive and we want you guys to
Speaker 1: I wanted to be very direct, you know, because I'm like, damn, bro,
Speaker 1: he's very clear about who this yeah, so, and sometimes
Speaker 1: I'm with you, like his stuff isn't very clear and direct.
Speaker 1: But when Massa was like, oh, damn, you want people
Speaker 1: to know that this is massive and how this relates
Speaker 1: to everything that's in that room because everybody's oblivious. They're
Speaker 1: sitting around talking to each other and they've all basically conceded.
Speaker 1: You know, they made it. They're out of this environment.
Speaker 1: They're in this whole world that has this kind of
Speaker 1: glowing hue on it when you're in there, you know.
Speaker 1: And then there are people that know that the game
Speaker 1: is fucked up, but they won't leave it. And that
Speaker 1: was Lou Lou kind of in this sort of purgatory world.
Speaker 1: But he's still sitting there watching this form of entertainment
Speaker 1: and it's going to keep him around.
Speaker 2: Like a honeypot, and the last thing that I took
Speaker 2: from it was like it being an all white board
Speaker 2: since Vince pots pointed it out an all white boy
Speaker 2: to an elite black society. These are the people that
Speaker 2: are making the decisions and a picking but.
Speaker 4: And pretending that they love black black King and Mike
Speaker 4: King and all that shit.
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, but they Yeah, exactly, That's why I combinded
Speaker 2: the two. But he didn't even eat the food or
Speaker 2: something like that. Right, He's just right because he said
Speaker 2: it was something that was poisoned to wine or something
Speaker 2: like that. Yeah, he didn't eat the food. Yeah, he
Speaker 2: pretty much covered it all right. Episode six, we get
Speaker 2: to the end. Uncle James is dead. They went full
Speaker 2: on this episode with the ridiculousness. Chaos erupts, Anita and
Speaker 2: Breed try to deal with church ceremony issues, Vince roades
Speaker 2: blocks while deliver in the eulogy, and the episode brings
Speaker 2: the seasons arc to a full circle death grief, legacy
Speaker 2: and how one moves on. Ken, did you like the
Speaker 2: ridiculousness of this episode?
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I think Vince in a shootout with
Speaker 1: them trying to bring him back, or upset that he escaped,
Speaker 1: you know, kind of clear what he was trying to
Speaker 1: imply there that yeah, you can't get out like you know,
Speaker 1: or you're not supposed to get out, You're supposed to
Speaker 1: be part of the society, so you know, but it
Speaker 1: was that very, very over the top. Again, I think
Speaker 1: that the I think all three of them were actually
Speaker 1: good in this one. The sister and the mom you know,
Speaker 1: talking and Vince showed up that she was like nigga,
Speaker 1: like what you know, just clowning him for he was.
Speaker 1: Vin's getting up and cussing everybody out, you know, and
Speaker 1: telling his uncle to stop asking for money. You know,
Speaker 1: he said, never man even an ice cream truck. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like who fails an ice cream truck? But but nah,
Speaker 1: it was it was by this point I think the
Speaker 1: strength of the season were in like some of the
Speaker 1: previous episode, the previous one like episode five and then
Speaker 1: for me, episode two. So at this point it's like,
Speaker 1: how do you wrap all this up? Them losing the body,
Speaker 1: it was still I was just glad the mama and
Speaker 1: sister were back because they were still cutting up. Yes,
Speaker 1: you know again and this.
Speaker 2: One ro what'd you think about the funeral? I like
Speaker 2: the eulogy. Yeah, the other stuff was a little too
Speaker 2: ridiculous for me, but I get it over the top.
Speaker 2: I mean, he it's a it's an exaggerated version of
Speaker 2: or some of the things that happened in the industry,
Speaker 2: the culture or whatever. So I get what he was
Speaker 2: doing with that just creatively. But for me, I just don't.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I just don't feel like I needed
Speaker 2: all of the extra stuff, Like I feel like you
Speaker 2: could have did a little subtler, like I have a
Speaker 2: question for you after I okay, you know, But but
Speaker 2: as far as the eulogy and stuff, I like how
Speaker 2: he delivered that. That's probably the most powerful, one powerful
Speaker 2: thing about this particular episode because it kind of wrapped
Speaker 2: everything up. And then yeah, how he came at like
Speaker 2: the whole family, and I like how you say I
Speaker 2: love you sister. That's all that's all he had to say,
Speaker 2: And she's like, I know, that's right. I really liked
Speaker 2: that moment because I feel like that's how he probably
Speaker 2: really is with his sister or sibling or something like that,
Speaker 2: like look, man, ain't nothing you can do that. You
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, I love you or whatever. So
Speaker 2: I did like that you.
Speaker 1: Know, oh, and his mother, right, his mother, He's like,
Speaker 1: look you you you are extra. But at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, you always write.
Speaker 2: And if she think about it, she usually is always right.
Speaker 2: No matter how ridiculous it may sound, how extra it is,
Speaker 2: she be right. Like, like what she just standing on
Speaker 2: her ship fact, And I like how he pointed that
Speaker 2: out because we watched the whole we set it ourselves,
Speaker 2: the whole series of her just doing some crazy cursing
Speaker 2: out people saying what was right, seeing her feelings, and
Speaker 2: that's how old people be, like they say with the chests,
Speaker 2: they say ship. So I like how he pointed that out, Like, look,
Speaker 2: you might seem crazy, but what's she wrong? You know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying? She was what she was wrong about breathing?
Speaker 2: What was she wrong about the car? The car episode?
Speaker 2: She was kind of wrong.
Speaker 4: She was going off on that dude about the Mini Cooper.
Speaker 1: And all that.
Speaker 2: She was kind of wrong.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, she was just.
Speaker 2: Like you didn't want no EV cars.
Speaker 1: I didn't know how to fuck y'all. Do get rid
Speaker 1: of this ship? Tell me on the website. It wasn't
Speaker 1: no EV call.
Speaker 3: It was after that, wasn't it like they were trying
Speaker 3: to give her a certain card. She was like acting
Speaker 3: a fool about it. Cooper, the mini Cooper evs, they're not.
Speaker 2: She didn't want an EV but but but as you see,
Speaker 2: they had one.
Speaker 3: She tried to play them and say that they didn't
Speaker 3: but that model she wanted, right, and she was bugging
Speaker 3: out about it. She wanted a specific model, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get you, but I think they were advertising
Speaker 2: something else and they didn't have. Oh yeah they were,
Speaker 2: they said advert She's like, no, y'all. On the site
Speaker 2: it said y'all had this car. Now, y'all, I'm here,
Speaker 2: y'all say some bullshit. Same thing with with the funeral ship.
Speaker 2: She was cussing that motherfucker out. But you lost my
Speaker 2: fucking my mother. So I'm going off.
Speaker 1: What she asked them. Do you value your life or
Speaker 1: something like that. Yeah, she was just a mean lady.
Speaker 1: I mean, but she was.
Speaker 2: She wasn't wrong when you look back at it, it's
Speaker 2: as extreme as as she was. I don't think she
Speaker 2: was wrong, you know. So I thought that was interesting
Speaker 2: that he pointed that out. She told you what when, oh,
Speaker 2: I thought you were she she told you you better
Speaker 2: order two caskets.
Speaker 1: Car she did. I thought the most interesting part about
Speaker 1: the when he got up and gave his speech. But
Speaker 1: he was like, uncle James, I never wanted to be
Speaker 1: like you. And then that ties into oh yes, yes,
Speaker 1: it made me.
Speaker 2: It made me know what not to be. That was
Speaker 2: a good line, like I love you, but you also
Speaker 2: made me know what not to be and oh yeah,
Speaker 2: he said he what the other but the husband he's like, man,
Speaker 2: stop that ship, man get popped. What I thought that
Speaker 2: cases where the way he said that to you?
Speaker 1: But uh nah. I really liked the eulogity part of
Speaker 1: this one. That was good. I really liked that.
Speaker 2: It was a way to end, a good way to
Speaker 2: end the show. I thought, got any thoughts on the film?
Speaker 4: Nothing, nothing y'all haven't already said.
Speaker 3: I thought it was really good. It was a good
Speaker 3: way to end it. But when it when it was over,
Speaker 3: I was a little bit like, all right, so what
Speaker 3: was the kind of what was the point of this
Speaker 3: whole season?
Speaker 2: But it was on some Seinfeld type ship in my opinion,
Speaker 2: just like making word for it. It wasn't I mean,
Speaker 2: it wasn't really going anywhere. It was just like Seinfeld
Speaker 2: Seinfeld is he signed he's the comedian. He plays the
Speaker 2: comedian in Timefield and Show. But like there's generally you
Speaker 2: get these wild ridiculous things that happened in the episode,
Speaker 2: but there's no overall arching point, Like the season doesn't
Speaker 2: go really anywhere, just pointing lights and different things and
Speaker 2: commentary on perspectives to different people.
Speaker 1: See.
Speaker 2: I think he does have a point in this. I
Speaker 2: just don't know exactly what it is. I picked up
Speaker 2: on some of the you know, the themes and things,
Speaker 2: but is their over arching point. I think from a
Speaker 2: plot standpoint, that's only what I'm speaking of, what our messages,
Speaker 2: and he got points to those messages. But from a
Speaker 2: plot standpoint, it's just you're observing a day in the
Speaker 2: life of his exaggerated version of me. Is it like
Speaker 2: how how people deal with grief and different I think
Speaker 2: for the last episode, which I want to ask you
Speaker 2: in the Roomb as well, like there's a commentary that
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter what men are going through, we expected
Speaker 2: to show up. And I think the exaggerated shootouts gun
Speaker 2: fights were that version of this for him, nig we
Speaker 2: don't care what happened. You better get to this funeral,
Speaker 2: and even them calling on the phone. No one ever asked, like, bro,
Speaker 2: what what is going on?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 2: No one ever asked for you okay, But it was
Speaker 2: on some why is it loud? You can't hear me
Speaker 2: talking to you? Not I really care about what's going on.
Speaker 2: It's just like, what's all that noise? I ain't able
Speaker 2: to get to get to say what I want to
Speaker 2: say because you've got so much good stuff going on
Speaker 2: in the background. Well, she eventually got to what Ken saying, though,
Speaker 2: and he hung up. Yeah, maybe he didn't hear it
Speaker 2: all disconnected. She got serious, but he didn't even get
Speaker 2: a chance to when she was like, yeah, how are
Speaker 2: you doing? Exactly? She was actually serious, and I think, what,
Speaker 2: I'm fucked up, y'all, how are you doing whatever?
Speaker 1: What's going on with you?
Speaker 2: And he didn't respond. I think that's the commentary, and
Speaker 2: he was already hanging out. I think that was a
Speaker 2: commentary for that whole ridiculous last episode, in the sense
Speaker 2: of like, it don't matter, Bro, you still got to
Speaker 2: show up and be there because your family expects you to.
Speaker 3: I think it's funny that until y'all brought it back up,
Speaker 3: I don't I didn't really register it like that either.
Speaker 2: M Yeah, it's it. I mean he does. He makes
Speaker 2: you think. He makes you think, Like I said, it's.
Speaker 1: Think about Atlanta.
Speaker 2: That's what you said, That's what you start about. He
Speaker 2: trying to put it, trying to spin it on me, kid.
Speaker 2: I don't think he would take that as a disctough.
Speaker 2: I think that will be a compliment.
Speaker 1: He knows version. Definitely. It's his version of it. It's
Speaker 1: not like a complete He mentioned on Twitter something about
Speaker 1: twin Peaks meets something. That's what this felt like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't know he said that, but yeah, it's
Speaker 3: definitely felt like Twin Peaks version of Atlanta.
Speaker 2: Interesting. I don't know what twin Peaks is what. I
Speaker 2: don't know that it's a David Lynch show. Okay, that's
Speaker 2: very bizarre and weird like this.
Speaker 3: So that actually puts things in contact because Twin Peaks
Speaker 3: didn't really have much of a fucking plot.
Speaker 2: Either, well could It makes sense, but I like it though,
Speaker 2: all right, any other takeaways from the Vince Table show.
Speaker 1: I'm curious if he does a third one.
Speaker 2: I would be here for it, to be honest with you, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I definitely would be.
Speaker 1: Here for He needs a movie though, Yeah, this was
Speaker 1: only felt like one.
Speaker 2: I guess it was is a movie. That's what The
Speaker 2: thing that surprised me. They were pumping the first season.
Speaker 2: I didn't I had to like type this in. Did
Speaker 2: you have to type?
Speaker 1: It wasn't anything Netflix, you had to find it. I
Speaker 1: was super surprised.
Speaker 3: Be funny if he told them to do that, I
Speaker 3: don't know either, but that was like part of the show.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Part of the narrative was though he was he wanted
Speaker 2: more episodes in that first season, but Netflix will only
Speaker 2: do the short bits because they said that's all they're
Speaker 2: doing now. So it may be a little bit to that.
Speaker 2: That's the way he kind of maybe got some little
Speaker 2: beef with them or something.
Speaker 1: He's definitely tweeting about it and promoted Yeah. I mean,
Speaker 1: if y'all hadn't said that we were doing this, I
Speaker 1: know that was out.
Speaker 2: I would have forgot because nothing anywhere top TV shows
Speaker 2: you had literally had to type in the Vince Staples show.
Speaker 1: Oh so two tweets. I'll read the twin Peaks thing,
Speaker 1: but the first one I just saw six days ago.
Speaker 1: He said, As you can tell, the marketing budget is
Speaker 1: smaller than the show budget, so please make sure to
Speaker 1: share a mons your friend group. And then he said
Speaker 1: when it was he said, season two airing and blah
Speaker 1: blah blah blah, find it in the clearance aisle.
Speaker 3: That was fun, so he knows. Yeah, that's fucked up
Speaker 3: on Netflix's part.
Speaker 1: It is. Yeah, and then the other I'll just read
Speaker 1: the Twin Peaks. The streets are saying season two of
Speaker 1: the Event Staple Show is the new Twin Peaks, and
Speaker 1: by the streets, I mean me, so yeah, going for that.
Speaker 1: That's fucked up.
Speaker 3: If Netflix, I mean y'all got money, you couldn't do
Speaker 3: a couple of promos for the show.
Speaker 1: That's crazy. Agreed, because it's Netflix special, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is specifically for Netflix, so I would be interesting.
Speaker 2: And now you're saying that the season three because it
Speaker 2: don't seem like Netflix is here for it. No, I
Speaker 2: hope it does does well, seem to be getting decent
Speaker 2: reviews whatever. All right, well, speaking of decent reviews, that
Speaker 2: is our review of The Vents Staples Show for season
Speaker 2: two Netflix Original type it in. If you don't man,
Speaker 2: make sure you watch it though. It's a good, a good,
Speaker 2: a good hang Come on the show, man, come talked
Speaker 2: about the movie man, I mean the show, talk about
Speaker 2: the series show.
Speaker 1: All Right, we out peace please