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Speaker 2: That's all.

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Speaker 1: They are the Carolina's personal injury lawyers. And even though

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Speaker 1: I had to go through Thanksgiving without any deviled eggs,

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Speaker 1: with not any pumpkin pie, we did not need an

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Speaker 1: at the uh at the at the Thanksgiving with the family.

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Speaker 3: It's impressive because you have so many family members that

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Speaker 3: come over. I mean, what was it probably about thirty

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Speaker 4: Yeah, if you were to stay there with your family

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Speaker 4: and watch and have watched that UNC game with someone

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Speaker 4: getting punched by Fiddy.

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Speaker 2: Punch, well, I would have been punched by my ma.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, she's not a fan of she's not a

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Speaker 1: So I mean, I know I wouldn't have punched anybody

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Speaker 3: So you were eating, So you went out to the

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Speaker 1: As my uncle and I we were cutting the one turkey.

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Speaker 1: I mean we were eating and cutting at the same time.

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Speaker 4: An he went out to help bring the stuff in

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Speaker 2: I mean, just so disappointed there is that he or

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Speaker 1: I won't repeat what I said to the family about

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Speaker 2: They're not being any deviled eggs.

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Speaker 3: This is the most like awkward show ever, only awkward

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think you're the one doing it. I mean,

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Speaker 3: Hey, you know what, that is a great That might

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Speaker 2: Let's stalk college football one final time, shall we. Let's

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Speaker 1: Rivalry weekend take center stage really, starting today with just

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Speaker 1: To watch college football this weekend, that's the game I'm

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Speaker 1: And I'm pretty excited to watch that game tomorrow. I

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be one of those games where people are

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Speaker 3: I don't know how excited I am for that game,

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Speaker 1: On the road in Austin, I think, I think they

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't think they're among one of the twelve

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Speaker 1: When you look at Clemson South Carolina. We did a

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Speaker 5: One hundred percent convinced that this year is a little

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Speaker 5: on Thanksgiving weekend with playoff implications. It didn't happen this year,

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Speaker 2: They've recruited.

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Speaker 5: Well, I'm sure we're and got good young players in

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Speaker 3: First of all, I don't think that Dabo is going

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Speaker 3: You gotta started at some point. You've got to start

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just feel like whenever you haven't been able

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Speaker 1: here on Sports Radio ninety two seven WFNZ. Even we

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Speaker 3: O'clock Doghouse on on Sunday. Right, yes, sir, Yeah, countdown

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Speaker 2: That'll be a big that'll be a KB and Mac.

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Speaker 4: I'll be down there at the doghouse on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Was you was that Kyle? Yeah, Kyle showed up at Bailey.

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Speaker 4: Now, I was doing my my impression of you doing me.

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Speaker 4: I may or may not have purchase the tickets. They

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Speaker 4: Step one, Wake up number two, pray number three, go

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Speaker 1: That's about you to get a chuckle at me putting

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Speaker 3: I think you look at some of the games that

442
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Speaker 3: Carolina has had this year, after they've lost games, that's

443
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Speaker 3: what gives you the feeling that they're going to respond

444
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Speaker 3: in some way in this game. And so I think

445
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:13,320
Speaker 3: that's probably going to be the reason why. I look defensively,

446
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,000
Speaker 3: I don't know if there's much you can do now.

447
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:18,159
Speaker 2: The weather certainly helps.

448
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,600
Speaker 3: That's the biggest helper to your defense is that the

449
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,679
Speaker 3: weather is going to be terrible. So this means that

450
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,800
Speaker 3: for a team that loves to throw the football in

451
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Speaker 3: the rams, they are probably going to have to be

452
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Speaker 3: more run based. I would think that they're going to

453
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Speaker 3: lean on Kyron Williams a lot more in this game

454
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Speaker 3: than maybe some of the other games that they've been in.

455
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Speaker 3: But I mean, if you're Carolina, that's the thing. Can

456
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Speaker 3: you find that success running the football again? Can he

457
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Speaker 3: get back? I'm not saying you got to run for

458
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Speaker 3: two hundred something yards on the ground, But can you

459
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Speaker 3: just allow that to really carry your offense? As you said,

460
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Speaker 3: sort of play keep away, but just have the ball,

461
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Speaker 3: just possess the football, be an efficient offense that can

462
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Speaker 3: move the ball down the field. If you can get

463
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Speaker 3: some of those moments, then I think you have a chance.

464
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Speaker 3: And the thing is the other reason why I give

465
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Speaker 3: them a chance. And some people will point back to

466
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Speaker 3: the Bills game, but this team at home this year

467
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:20,200
Speaker 3: has been a different team. They have been really, really

468
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Speaker 3: good at home for the most part, and so I

469
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Speaker 3: believe that this is one of those games where with

470
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Speaker 3: the comb crowd behind them, they're able to put up

471
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Speaker 3: a little bit of a fight. And my thing is

472
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Speaker 3: is that I get it. It's gonna be rainy. His

473
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Speaker 3: team's coming off a loss. If you are Panther fans,

474
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Speaker 3: show up to this game, support your team. Because this

475
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Speaker 3: team is six and six, they're still worth supporting. They

476
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Speaker 3: still have a chance to win this division. But this

477
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Speaker 3: is one of those games. This is a game I'm

478
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Speaker 3: gonna tell you right now. When it comes to looking

479
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Speaker 3: at the playoff picture, nobody is predicting that Caroline is

480
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Speaker 3: gonna win this game.

481
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Speaker 2: Now you're just.

482
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Speaker 3: Hoping that they find a way to pull an upset

483
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Speaker 3: in this one and that it's by some miracle they

484
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Speaker 3: get to seven and six and then all of a sudden,

485
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Speaker 3: if they win this game, then you really feel like

486
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 3: they have a chance to make the playoffs. If not,

487
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 3: then what you're really hoping is that that game against

488
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Speaker 3: Seattle is the one that ends up going Carolina's way.

489
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Speaker 1: I think this is also where if you want to

490
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Speaker 1: give the schedule makers like the middle finger, like that's okay,

491
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Speaker 1: because if the bye week was this week and then

492
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Speaker 1: you're coming out and you're getting to play La at home,

493
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Speaker 1: I think we'd be a lot more open to putting

494
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Speaker 1: a legitimate formula together to win.

495
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Speaker 3: Could you could, honestly, could you make the case if

496
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Speaker 3: you had J. C.

497
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Speaker 2: Horn that you have a chance to win this game?

498
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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: I think that's the biggest injury, you know, because Wes

501
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,680
Speaker 1: Bryant les or the JAC hornor last time I checked

502
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Speaker 1: the elite corner and it's coming off on the West

503
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Speaker 1: Brian not elite corner. Yeah, one of the best games

504
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Speaker 1: he's played as a tire NFL career. I don't know

505
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,120
Speaker 1: what was on that field on Monday night. But there

506
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Speaker 1: are too many guys that were having concussion like symptoms.

507
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 1: We might need we we might need to inspect the

508
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Speaker 1: field there at Levi Stadium. But yeah, if if you

509
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Speaker 1: had JC, I could be open to it.

510
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Speaker 3: And because that that allows you to create maybe a

511
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 3: turnover too, Yeah, which I just don't know right now.

512
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Speaker 2: I mean we said it earlier. Man, you're rolling with

513
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Speaker 2: Mike Jackson and.

514
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Speaker 1: Yeah, because j jc's not playing Sunday, like, oh no, no,

515
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Speaker 1: he was.

516
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Speaker 3: He was thrown up on the sidelines. That's pretty severe.

517
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Speaker 2: That's bad.

518
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Speaker 3: So I find it hard to believe that he's going

519
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Speaker 3: to be out there, that that would be That would

520
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 3: be stunning to me.

521
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and if he, if he is, they're probably gonna

522
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Speaker 1: do some sort of investigation because short week two, I mean, dude,

523
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Speaker 1: they didn't get back here until Tuesday morning at six am.

524
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Speaker 4: Well, this is just not coming in from Joe person,

525
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,400
Speaker 4: from Joe person about three minutes ago out there practice.

526
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Speaker 4: Official injury report will be out later this week, but

527
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Speaker 4: out of practice, he says, not seeing j C. Horn, Claude,

528
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 4: Cherry List, Christian Rose Boom or Caid may So also

529
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 4: Chandler is Zavala is when he's not seeing as well.

530
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Speaker 2: So don't think any of those guys will be playing.

531
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Speaker 1: So all the guys that didn't practice yesterday not practicing today.

532
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Speaker 4: Well the one from yesterday that was walk through, so

533
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 4: that was whoever the DNP and all that, that was

534
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 4: more of a guestimate by the people. But yeah, I

535
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Speaker 4: seen them actually out there. Yeah now yeah, So once

536
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Speaker 4: again j C. Horn, claud and Cherlist, Christian rose Boom,

537
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 4: cad May's Chandler Zevala not out there practice today. Once again,

538
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Speaker 4: that's from Joe person saying he doesn't think any of

539
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 4: those guys will be playing this Sunday. The injury report

540
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 4: will be later, will be out later this afternoon.

541
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Speaker 1: And you know what this height or what this highlights

542
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Speaker 1: to me is what my biggest takeaway was when I

543
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 1: watched this team in the preseason, and it's why they're

544
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 1: a year away, Like next year is going to be

545
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 1: the year.

546
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 2: This roster doesn't have the depth that you need to have.

547
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Speaker 1: In this league to legitimately be a factor, I think

548
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,120
Speaker 1: to be be a playoff team. You're just gonna take

549
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 1: advantage of the fact that you're in a bad division,

550
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 1: and and Tampa's like, we can be honest with ourselves here,

551
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 1: Like Tampa's only in the position that they are in

552
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 1: because of injuries, Like if that roster was healthy, they

553
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: would not be six and five, no, no better.

554
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 2: With the way that.

555
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 1: Baker's been playing to I would probably say, you take

556
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 1: away some of the injuries bugs that they've had to

557
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 1: kind of overcome, they give like an eight and three.

558
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 2: Type of vibe.

559
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I don't think they were great. I mean,

560
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 3: you got to remember, this is a team that did

561
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 3: let the Jets come all the way back against them

562
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 3: and then had to win it with a game winning

563
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 3: field goal. So I don't think there was I legitimately

564
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:44,199
Speaker 3: early in the season, because of how the NFC looked,

565
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 3: how some of the other teams in the NFC looked,

566
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Speaker 3: I thought there was a case to be made that

567
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Speaker 3: they were the best team in the NFC.

568
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Speaker 1: Baker was playing in October, the best quarterback of any

569
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 1: of any quarterback in the league in the Matthew Stafford said,

570
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 1: hold my beer.

571
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so, and this is the this is the

572
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 3: other thing that really sucks. This is the thing about

573
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 3: this game that really sucks is out of everybody that

574
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 3: you could possibly draw, even just switch the games that

575
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 3: you between this week and last week. I think if

576
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 3: you had suffered all those injuries against the Rams and

577
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,199
Speaker 3: then you had to play the Niners, I think you

578
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 3: would have a better chance to win the game. I

579
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 3: think there would be a formula that made a lot

580
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 3: of sense this one. I mean, yeah, against the Niners,

581
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 3: maybe you don't have to put in prey against the Rams,

582
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:33,880
Speaker 3: probably need the prayers.

583
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I don't think you're wrong.

584
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 1: I think you know, no matter what happens on Sunday,

585
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 1: you get this bye week, you get a chance to

586
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 1: re catch, you know, just just catch your breath, get

587
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 1: everybody healthy, and then you're looking at you know, that

588
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 1: stretch run, those those four games.

589
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 2: You know are going to be all very.

590
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 1: Winnable when you need, by the way, you need the

591
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 1: Cardinals to win this weekend.

592
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 2: You need a little bit of help there. Yeah, I

593
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 2: mean it would, it wouldn't hurt.

594
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Speaker 1: I think you're looking at a scenario where they lose Sunday,

595
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: they gotta go three and one down the stretch, and

596
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 1: that would suggest to me, obviously we expect them to

597
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 1: bounce back against New Orleans the better, but you're asking

598
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 1: them to beat Seattle at home, which could be on

599
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: a short week because that game could be flexed to Saturday,

600
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 1: and then you're splitting with the Bucks or I mean,

601
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 1: if the I don't see, I don't see two and

602
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,479
Speaker 1: two getting it done, depending on what Baker and Tampa

603
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 1: look like.

604
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I also don't think Baker's out for an extended

605
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 4: period of time.

606
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 2: Because that's the thing. Two weeks for his injury, I.

607
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 4: Think because they said shout out to the Orthrow bro

608
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 4: they did text in the other day.

609
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 2: He was totally correct. He said it was an ac joint.

610
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 4: That just what it ended up being, and they said

611
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 4: around two weeks probably where he's looking. We also know

612
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 4: Baker Mayfield's tough as hell, so wouldn't be surprised if

613
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 4: he really just missed a week.

614
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

615
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Speaker 3: I mean, if if Baker's injury was serious enough, then

616
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 3: you could maybe see.

617
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 2: Them winning both games against Tampa. Yeah.

618
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 3: But I I if he is out there, I believe,

619
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Speaker 3: I mean, you look at there, They're gonna be healthy enough,

620
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 3: especially at wide receiver. I think they'll probably end up

621
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 3: taking one game. So that's the thing. Man, can you

622
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 3: get late season Sam Darnold a guy that you know

623
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 3: last year struggled at the end of the season.

624
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 2: Can he have moments like that?

625
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 3: Can you create, you know, a few turnovers off of

626
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 3: him and just get a few breaks.

627
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Speaker 2: That's that's the thing that And.

628
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Speaker 3: I don't think it's impossible because I you know, I

629
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 3: look at Seattle and I think they are somewhat gettable

630
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 3: out of all the teams that are in the playoff

631
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 3: picture in the NFC, like the teams that are in

632
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 3: right now, that's still one that I feel a little

633
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 3: unsure about because you do have, you know, a very

634
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 3: injury prone running back in Kenneth Walker. You've got a

635
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 3: guy who you know is as unpredictable as anybody sometimes

636
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 3: at quarterback, especially in big games. So yeah, maybe it

637
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 3: does end up breaking your way. But you know, this

638
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 3: this weekend. This that's why this weekend really sucks that

639
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 3: you feel the way that you feel about this game,

640
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 3: because if they could find a way to get this one,

641
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 3: it puts them in such an advantageous position. If they

642
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 3: win this game, you can go too and two down

643
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 3: the stretch, and I still think you could win this division.

644
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, you most definitely if you were to get

645
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: this game Sunday. You now have the thing that you

646
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: don't You never want a team to have, but it's

647
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 1: good to have in your back pocket. Rouvrera yep. Whereas

648
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 1: if you lose this game, I don't think there's going

649
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: to be as much room for error. All right, we'll

650
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 1: make our picks coming up in the next segment. We've

651
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 1: spent a lot of time here talking about injuries. One

652
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 1: packed the game on Sunday. Now we've got to look

653
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: at how injuries unpacked the games this weekend. In college

654
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Speaker 1: football is signed for a Neogenics culturable injury report with shop.

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Speaker 4: That's right in this Neogenics college football injury report. Well,

656
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Speaker 4: it's brought to you by I guess who Neogenics Neogenics.

657
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Speaker 2: Where all you have to lose is the pain.

658
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Speaker 4: Looking at some injuries we did not highlight last hour.

659
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Speaker 4: Looking at the pit in Miami game one that might

660
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Speaker 4: be of impact, Desmond reed, the running back for pit

661
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 4: is questionable for that game, did not play against Georgia

662
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 4: Tech and has been limited to only eighteen carries in

663
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 4: the last four games, so that one might be significant.

664
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 4: Only has sixty attempts on the year two hundred and

665
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 4: seventy eight yards and two touchdowns, but still if he's

666
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 4: not available, that one is a big one for pit

667
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 4: and then also for Navy as they look to continue

668
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 4: their tremendous season. Blake Horvath, their quarterback, undisclosed he will

669
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 4: be He was listed as questionable, but he will be

670
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 4: starting against Memphis this weekend, so he will get the

671
00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 4: nod to go in the final game potentially the regular

672
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 4: season for them.

673
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 3: Very interesting because Blake Corvath played last night and Navy won.

674
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 3: Fucking Spendhith, No, you're good, You're good. No, no, no,

675
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 3: I'm not trying to look. I know where you're reading from.

676
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 3: Bad guy move shop, but bad guys. I just wanted

677
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 3: to alert the people. I appreciate that you want to

678
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 3: alert to shrop messing up. No, I want to say

679
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 3: that it was a nice win for Navy. They actually

680
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 3: stay alive for the American Conference championship, so they have

681
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 3: the weird scenario.

682
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 2: I don't know why I thought.

683
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 4: I thought that Navy Memphis was basketball for some reason, and.

684
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 1: Well there was a lot of college basket. How much

685
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 1: did you drink yesterday?

686
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 3: But here's the thing that's amazing is that if Navy,

687
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 3: if the if Navy gets a loss from either Tulane

688
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 3: or North Texas, they will find a way into the

689
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 3: AAC championship game, which means that they would play their

690
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 3: championship game before their final game of the regular season. Yep,

691
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 3: it makes no sense, but it's somehow it will work

692
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 3: out that way.

693
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 1: It's the downside of both of them being in a conference.

694
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 1: I understand why, but it's it's the downside where and

695
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 1: I love that game having its own day, yes, but

696
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 1: it's still just an oddity in the schedule where that's

697
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 1: after Army Navy or it's after a championship Saturday, that's

698
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 1: after the playoff field is set.

699
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 2: Appreciate that report Trouble we come back.

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Speaker 1: It's the final segment of the Young Guns right here

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00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: on Sports Radio ninety two seven wfn Z.

702
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,399
Speaker 2: It's the final segment of.

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Speaker 1: The Young Guns here on Sports Radio ninety two seven

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Speaker 1: wfn Z. We appreciate all of you that have listened

705
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 1: to what us all morning long. We've appreciated all the

706
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 1: sex we've gotten on the fan duel text line.

707
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,280
Speaker 2: Now we get to the fun part of the show.

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00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,359
Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever seen you this down and

709
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,439
Speaker 1: out about a pant and we've seen worst Panther teams. Yeah,

710
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 1: we've seen some really bad Panthers team, but you feel

711
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 1: like you have like there's just no there's just no

712
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: hope going into Carolina for this game. So we'll go

713
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: around the room. Shop, you've got three picks you have

714
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: to deliver. I do flounder where you go after shop,

715
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,800
Speaker 1: and then I'll follow up with with my prediction.

716
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 2: Shop you said it not me?

717
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 4: All right, well, let me go ahead and start with

718
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 4: Mama Shrop's prediction. Feeling stop that it's feeling not not

719
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 4: as confident as I guess all of us here, she's saying,

720
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 4: with the rain keeping the Rams from scoring as much

721
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:01,760
Speaker 4: as they potentially would, the Panthers lose twenty seven to seven.

722
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 4: So not looking particularly hopeful there. And then also Colin

723
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:12,760
Speaker 4: Hoggard and myself both with the same score prediction. A

724
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 4: bit odd. You know, maybe I've been doing the show

725
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 4: with him for too long. We're starting to think we're

726
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 4: starting to think the same here, because is two weeks

727
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 4: in a row, we've been really really close with our scores.

728
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 4: We are both going Rams thirty one Panthers seventeen.

729
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 1: Did she ask Colin if this version of the Panthers

730
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 1: could win more games in the ACC or the SEC.

731
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,760
Speaker 2: I will not do that. You can do that yourselves.

732
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 3: You're just saying you're asking he's gonna call you later

733
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 3: and will continue the argument that you guys had.

734
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 2: If I see our hotline light up, dude, I'm that

735
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 2: would be amazing. Shrub.

736
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:50,280
Speaker 1: You were in there for said argument slash discussion. Yes,

737
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: I thought the best point I made was that he

738
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 1: was delaying my sandwich eating.

739
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 2: He was doing that like I was. I was.

740
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 1: I could taste my sandwich, and at one point, the

741
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 1: fattest song that's been set on this show all day, dude,

742
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 1: I've got the I started getting the Buffalo Chicken at

743
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 1: Jersey MIC's. I used to be a club sub guy,

744
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 1: but now've switched. It's one of the best decisions I've

745
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 1: ever made. But I looked down at my phone. I'm like,

746
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:20,879
Speaker 1: holy hell, it's twelve thirty man, Fat Boy's trying to eat.

747
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 2: We can talk about Miami thirty twelve thirty, Oh my god,

748
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 2: Oh that's so late.

749
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean it was when your body pick

750
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 1: it wakes up at four. I mean, I'm ready to

751
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: eat by eleven. What you got flound you're picking them,

752
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: You're picking the Thirs.

753
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:41,720
Speaker 3: I want to, man, I really do, because I want

754
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 3: this team to make the playoffs so bad, But I

755
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 3: just I just can't see it in this game. Man,

756
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 3: I get it. It's gonna be rainy. Maybe that affects

757
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 3: the passing game for the Rams. I think it does

758
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 3: a little bit, and I think it will be a

759
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 3: little bit more low scoring than some people believe. Like

760
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:01,959
Speaker 3: there's some I believe that the Panthers are just gonna

761
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 3: get blasted off of this field.

762
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 2: But I think what they've.

763
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 3: Done with the defensive line, I think the defensive line

764
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,760
Speaker 3: has been solid enough to hold up. I think Derek

765
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:14,399
Speaker 3: Brown will probably put the you know this one would

766
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 3: There'll be some added motivation for him to play well

767
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,760
Speaker 3: because you do have so many guys that are out.

768
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 2: Hopefully they get Trevin Wallace back.

769
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 3: If they get Trevin Wallace back, I think that's huge

770
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:26,919
Speaker 3: because if if not, and you're having to play Chris

771
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 3: Barnes and Ban Martin Scott, we're in We're in tough

772
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 3: straits here for us to even for the Panthers to

773
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:38,320
Speaker 3: even keep it close. But I do believe that the

774
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 3: Rams end up winning. I'll go twenty eight to twelve

775
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 3: over the Carolina Panthers.

776
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:44,800
Speaker 1: How did you go from wanting to pick the Panthers

777
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: to pick it them lose a twenty eight to twelve.

778
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 2: Because he's because he's realistic. No, but I said, I mean,

779
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:54,879
Speaker 2: I love too. Yeah, picked the Panthers win. I'm trying

780
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 2: to ree it. Yeah, I'm trying to ree it. You do.

781
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Carolina's winning on Sunday. I picked the

782
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: Panthers on Wednesday, twenty one, seventeen, and I've had.

783
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 2: Would be a miracle. I've had two days to sit

784
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 2: on it.

785
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 1: I've had a Thanksgiving meal without deviled eggs, a pumpkin

786
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 1: pie to eat and still think about it.

787
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 2: We'll still bring it up the deviled decks.

788
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 1: And I'm still I'm still convinced this team bounces back

789
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:23,800
Speaker 1: after they play bad.

790
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 2: They will, you know.

791
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 1: I think I think Bryce Young will make a lot

792
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 1: of throws on Sunday they did not make on Monday night.

793
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 2: I think they'll be able to run the football.

794
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 1: I do put some of this and just maybe the

795
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 1: look ahead factor for LA not taking the Panthers all

796
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 1: that serious. So I think Carolina makes it ugly I

797
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 1: love the fact that it's gonna be cold, wet and rainy.

798
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 1: Props to U shot for going to endure the rain.

799
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 1: Hopefully you dress for the occasion. Yeah, seriously, but yeah,

800
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 1: I think I think Carolina MUCKs it up enough. They

801
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:59,919
Speaker 1: pull the game into a phone booth, and I think

802
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,879
Speaker 1: it's gonna be low possession. I think it's gonna be ugly,

803
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 1: but they get just enough done. And I think we're

804
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: talking about a team on the bye week that's gonna

805
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 1: be seven and six, although we wouldn't be upset if

806
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 1: they were six seven.

807
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 2: What's your score prediction?

808
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 1: Twenty one seventeen picked the Crown. I want to hear

809
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 1: that thing on Sunday.

810
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 6: I mean, if I do what I want you to

811
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 6: be right, if they do that, there's no way if

812
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 6: you cannot question is Giro Everro the rest of the year,

813
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 6: nobody could question.

814
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,760
Speaker 3: That would be unbelievable with that defense, with how banged

815
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 3: up that defense is, to hold them to seventeen points,

816
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 3: So you think there's gotta be some turnovers in there

817
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,879
Speaker 3: from Matthew Stafford, there's no There's no way.

818
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 2: They're just outright shutting down a.

819
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 4: Guy who hasn't thrown a team a guy who hasn't

820
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 4: thrown an interception since like mid September.

821
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 1: By the way, it was like it was the Titans

822
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 1: game back in the week two the last time he

823
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 1: threw an interception. Yeah, maybe it's an interception. I mean,

824
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,280
Speaker 1: maybe it's a fumble. Maybe you know, the dirty dirty

825
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 1: kick gets miss handled, something like that. I mean, at

826
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:04,839
Speaker 1: some point, like if the Rams just keep playing at

827
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:08,399
Speaker 1: this this level, I mean, we're gonna be talking about

828
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 1: them as and maybe they already are the proverbial favorites

829
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 1: to win the Super Bowl. I wasn't there with them

830
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: coming into the year, so I think there's got to

831
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 1: be some fallback to the means. So and I mean,

832
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 1: and I'm not disagreeing with you're saying about a varro.

833
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:24,800
Speaker 2: They win this game though on Sunday. That says a

834
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 2: lot about QB nine.

835
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 1: And I think it'll just be for this week and

836
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 1: then until next week we'll be having and then just dude,

837
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,399
Speaker 1: So it's I mean, it's the most exhausting it is

838
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 1: next week.

839
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 2: No, No, we would have two weeks of raving about them,

840
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 2: all right.

841
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 1: It's the most exhausting thing in radio outside of having

842
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 1: to work with Willy Pey, which hopefully Smoke is ready

843
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 1: to go man, hopefully he is fueled up and.

844
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 3: Ready to get off shots. Really, I think you need

845
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 3: to let Willie off the match prodigo.

846
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 4: All right, really quick before we get on out of here.

847
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 4: Wanting to get some predictions and from the text line

848
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:02,439
Speaker 4: as well. Brian on the fan duel text line, saying

849
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 4: the Panthers keep it close, but the Rams pull away

850
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 4: in the end, Rams win thirty one twenty one. I

851
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,320
Speaker 4: don't know if you're totally disappointed, if you know the

852
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:15,399
Speaker 4: Panthers put up twenty one points. Also looking at Oh boy,

853
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 4: who else.

854
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 2: In it one?

855
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:20,720
Speaker 4: Oh salty Pirates saying Rams thirty seven, he said pancakes,

856
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:22,839
Speaker 4: I think Panthers twenty Uh.

857
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 2: I think he's a Panther hater if I remember correctly,

858
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:27,320
Speaker 2: Oh Boy.

859
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 4: Oh Boy line of boys seventy four, also saying let's

860
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 4: go Panthers overtime victory twenty seven twenty four.

861
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, that one makes a little bit more sense to me.

862
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 3: I mean, you're giving up some some points you go

863
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 3: to overtime. Lean on, Ryan Fitzgerald, you know that would

864
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 3: be tough though, especially.

865
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 2: In the rain.

866
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 3: That's that's if you're a Panther fan, I think the

867
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 3: thing that you're hoping for the most is that it

868
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 3: actually is a pretty rainy day, because that if you can,

869
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 3: if it can affect that offense, it's enough to where

870
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,879
Speaker 3: you can keep up offensively, then I think I think

871
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:05,879
Speaker 3: you feel pretty good.

872
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 4: Dayton Hoggs getting in a last one here, Oh boy,

873
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 4: I thought it was going to go the other way.

874
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 4: It is not my prediction for the Panthers game from

875
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 4: Dayton Hoggs thirty eight to three, Panthers losing a blowout.

876
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 2: Oh I hope not.

877
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 1: That would make for a long show on Monday, when

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Speaker 1: wrap it up here for us today, the Young Guns

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Speaker 1: The Rich Eisen Show on esp and Radio back at

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Speaker 1: three o'clock with live local programming. Willie p filling in

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Speaker 1: of tonight's game over at the Hives. So for Flounder

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