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Speaker 1: You were listening to the Best of the Fan morning

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Speaker 1: show on ninety three five and one oh seven five

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Speaker 1: the Fan, Good morning, And I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I always think of Thursday as a head start into

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Speaker 2: the weekend and has got NFL football later on tonight, and

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Speaker 2: then we've got all kinds of basketball already coming up

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Speaker 2: tomorrow night and great football games on Saturday. I am

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Speaker 2: here for all of it. I'm looking forward to it.

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Speaker 2: A moment ago, we had those worlds collide football and basketball,

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Speaker 2: because so many NFL players love playing basketball, and a

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Speaker 2: lot of them will tell you they're really really good

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Speaker 2: at basketball, and they probably are because they're great athletes. James,

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Speaker 2: But you were having a conversation with mo Ali Cox

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Speaker 2: about what yesterday.

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Speaker 3: So we talked about this on our airwaves.

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Speaker 4: We were saying, Hey, if you had to pick five

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Speaker 4: who would you pick? And so we throw out our names,

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Speaker 4: and I believe it was Kevin who reminded, me, Hey,

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Speaker 4: you should ask some of the guys in the locker

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Speaker 3: So I went over to Moli Cox, So who's got

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Speaker 3: in the locker room?

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Speaker 4: As I'm waiting for Daniel Jones because that's you know,

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Speaker 4: obviously way more important than this. But I was like,

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Speaker 4: you know what, we got time to kill. Who is

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Speaker 4: your starting five from the former college basketball player himself

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Speaker 4: form VCU forward and Mary Cox chose himself, he chose

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Speaker 4: Daniel Jones, he chose Ashton Doolan, and then I believe

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Speaker 4: he chose Anthony Richardson and I'm missing one.

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Speaker 5: That he chose.

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Speaker 4: So I have to go back and look at you

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Speaker 4: say yes, j T Twey Mullowow, who, by the way,

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Speaker 4: he played his AU basketball with Polo bn Caro, who

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Speaker 4: is the number one pick down there in Orlando, So.

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Speaker 3: That's his five.

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Speaker 4: I was a little surprised that we didn't get some

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Speaker 5: Daniel Jones is what he called Jon Jones, right.

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Speaker 3: Yes, but I told you he could hoop.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I've talked to the guys about this, and

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Speaker 4: apparently they had a little powow at Butler months ago,

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Speaker 4: right around the time of like OTA's and Mini camp

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Speaker 4: and all that stuff, and they said that, well, I

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Speaker 4: use it for a story a while back, and Jaylen

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Speaker 4: Jones told me, hey, we were, you know, trying to

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Speaker 4: figure out a way to bond.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 4: We were in the locker room arguing over who can

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Speaker 4: really hoop, who can really play? And he was like,

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Speaker 4: you know what, line it up, Let us go out

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Speaker 4: there and play.

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Speaker 3: And so they said.

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Speaker 4: They went over to Butler and Daniel Jones didn't have

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Speaker 4: any shoes to play basketball in. I guess you didn't

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Speaker 4: bring him with him, you know, from New York. And

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Speaker 4: so they had to find some shoes first, lace the

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Speaker 4: shoes up, and then he told me that this is

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Speaker 4: Jalen Jones. That is he said that Daniel Jones started

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Speaker 4: hitting them with some moves that were like some Dirt

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Speaker 4: Novinsky bleep bleep bleep and some Tim Duncan bleak bleep

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Speaker 4: bleep that I can't repeat. But he's a bad you

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Speaker 4: know what, according to his teammates, we.

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Speaker 2: Should get like nine of those guys and then Gordon

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Speaker 2: Hayward over there in Hincklefield House and Gordon can show

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Speaker 2: him what's what.

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I mean, everyone's look a great basketball player

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Speaker 4: until you see a pro.

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Speaker 3: I'll just say that.

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Speaker 4: So it was a fun debate and I'm sure if

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Speaker 4: I ask anybody else in the locker room, they'll tell me, Oh,

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Speaker 4: how am I not in that top five?

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Speaker 5: And Moe did say I feel like we're a little

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Speaker 5: too big. He was a little nervous Yoh not enough

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Speaker 5: guards to be fair, but yes again, and he thinks

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Speaker 5: Staniel Jones will point forward there.

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Speaker 3: Did you guys see the Celtics played a coaches versus

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Speaker 3: media basketball game? I did see this.

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Speaker 7: Why don't we do a colts players versus colts media

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Speaker 7: basketball game?

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Speaker 3: We get James Boy, we get Kevin Bowen Colts players. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I like brother.

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Speaker 2: Just to be clear, you're proposing professional athletes going up

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Speaker 2: against media.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 5: Celtics did it. I mean Celtics did their coaches, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: pro some older pros and they did. Absolutely. Joe Missoula,

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Speaker 5: from the sounds of it, wanted blood and this.

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Speaker 3: Game is hilarious.

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Speaker 2: He's he's just going there with charges man Rick.

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Speaker 5: Carlo when he joins us, there you go coming up.

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Speaker 2: A very good former player himself.

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Speaker 4: Oh absolutely, I mean he won a championship. So I

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Speaker 4: will say this though, to Calebs and Justin have you

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Speaker 4: ever seen football players play basketball? They look like football

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Speaker 4: players who play basketball.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I'm not taking a charge. I'm not about get hit

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Speaker 3: my chest. Uh huh.

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Speaker 2: I'm predicting now that if there was Pacers coaching staff

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Speaker 2: against media, Jenny Bussik is probably the leading scorer.

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Speaker 4: Heys again former pro away from her general pargos on staff,

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Speaker 4: he is, oh, he'd give me forty he plays. I

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Speaker 4: think mathering these guys one on one, you know, after practice,

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Speaker 4: so uh yeah, I'm not checking any of those guys.

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Speaker 2: Uh for those keeping pace. Though, tomorrow night, we've got

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Speaker 2: basketball everywhere, Notre Dame at Butler, tomorrow night Heinkle Fieldhouse,

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Speaker 2: and then the Pacers at San Antonio. It's about to

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Speaker 2: be full on basketball. He's not quite there yet, but

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Speaker 2: we're getting close. It is college football season though. In

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Speaker 2: Indiana coming off the huge road win against Oregon, and

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Speaker 2: I was talking to an Indiana alum yesterday, good friend

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Speaker 2: of mine, Jeff Martin Della works at ESPN in their

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Speaker 2: affiliate relations department, and he grew up in Indiana. He

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Speaker 2: went to Indiana, he said, literally, he was nearly in

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Speaker 2: tears at the end of that football game on Saturday.

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Speaker 2: It's how much it means to folks who've been following

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Speaker 2: this program and have watched it for decades now, and

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Speaker 2: they go in as you said, Kevin a twenty seven

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Speaker 2: down in Bloomington. And I was fascinated that Kurt Signette

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Speaker 2: spent some time with Joel Klatt from Fox Sports. Joel

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Speaker 2: does a podcast and he had Kurt Signetti on this

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Speaker 2: past week. And you know, Kurt kind of took a

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Speaker 2: could and that's kind of how you start to build

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Speaker 2: and bring your culture over. I'll let him describe it himself.

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Speaker 9: I've been very fortunate to have great consistency on my

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Speaker 9: I hired a part time coaches at the D two

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Speaker 9: been with me, you know, eleven twelve years, and that

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Speaker 9: my special teams coordinators, but with me about six seven years.

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Speaker 9: And you know, we're in the top five in the

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Speaker 9: But a number of other people in the organization been

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Speaker 9: do things, they know how I am. The expectation level.

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Speaker 9: I try to keep those guys fresh, you know. I mean,

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Speaker 9: when we're in here, we're efficient, we're organized, we're working,

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Speaker 9: we don't waste time, and when we're done, I tell

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Speaker 9: them to go home. And I'm the same way with

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Speaker 9: the team and meetings and on a practice field, I

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Speaker 9: mean we're we're a really short practice operation. I mean

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Speaker 9: we'll have about a thirty five minute walkthrough on Mondays

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Speaker 9: and Tuesday through Thursday, I mean we're on that field

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Speaker 9: I just believe in keeping people fresh and healthy, and

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Speaker 9: the better people feel physically, the better they're going to

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Speaker 9: be mentally too. So well, there's a lot that goes

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Speaker 9: we have great people.

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Speaker 2: And how about the fact that I love this, James,

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Speaker 2: that you have something that you know works, You trust

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Speaker 2: these guys you've always had, always had success with them,

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Speaker 2: then you bring a number of players over as well,

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Speaker 2: and while you're literally transplanting your culture through the people

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Speaker 2: what it is. And now you set that example for

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Speaker 2: everybody else at Indiana, and there is this expectation that, no,

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Speaker 2: this is how it is from this coaching staff to

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Speaker 2: all the players we brought over, this is how you

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Speaker 4: Him absolutely, and I think when we talk about car

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Speaker 4: and he'll give some more context to what we're actually seeing.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, it is inspiring to kind of see what

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Speaker 4: like the good pressure, good challenge that you're embracing now

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Speaker 5: I think staff retension is a really underrated element to

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Speaker 5: ANNIE for that assistant coaching pool. And I do think

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Speaker 5: that is a huge deal because if you look at

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Speaker 5: Their defensive coordinator left and went through Penn State of

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Speaker 5: three of the top four teams last year, you know,

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Speaker 5: losing key coordinators and for Indiana to have the year

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Speaker 5: that they did. I get that. Tino Sensei, their co

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Speaker 5: you know, for him to retain you know, two of

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Speaker 5: it's pretty rare, especially in college sports. So you know,

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Speaker 5: even Purdue basketball you look at it, Matt Painters had

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Speaker 5: great staff retention over the years. I do think it's

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Speaker 5: a really under the radar aspect to it.

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Speaker 2: Well, they're doing it right at Indiana at this point

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Speaker 2: in time, they've risen all the way up to number

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Speaker 5: Don't love themselves there. You know you're gonna have to

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Speaker 5: Jones hasn't missed a meaningful snap all year. If you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I say your point.

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Speaker 5: Then November fourth the deadline, Yeah, exactly, and then the

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Speaker 4: You can't trade for anybody. So you're telling somebody, vita backup?

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Speaker 4: How much do you think you would really cost? Though,

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Speaker 4: But it's also pro rated too, so it's like you

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Speaker 4: I don't want to act like the the backup quarterback

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Speaker 2: I think the majority of it is Kevin is right, though,

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Speaker 5: I think Kevin's always right to note for Sunday and

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Speaker 3: So five your pass rush to show up.

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Speaker 2: I only bring that up because I'm looking at the

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Speaker 5: Dude, they mean the Broncos had one.

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Speaker 3: We have sixteen as a team, the bronxix sas against the.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the Broncos are leading the league with thirty sacks.

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Speaker 2: Why does that surprise me? It just doesn't feel like that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, when you look closer to some of these sacks,

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Speaker 5: Those are the moments where you're pinning your ears back

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Speaker 2: Based on what I'm looking at right now, ranked number

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you're actually getting into a store I'll have going

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Speaker 4: up tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Is this sustainable on defense?

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Speaker 4: Because they're like fourth in scoring defense, this year, So

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Speaker 4: they're not giving up a ton of points every game,

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Speaker 4: But when you look at their third down conversion rate,

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Speaker 4: they're thirtieth in the league.

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Speaker 3: That is not just from last week.

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Speaker 4: I got a chance to ask Sayah Franklin about that,

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Speaker 4: and he kind of alluded to some of the success

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Speaker 4: that the Cardinals had and maybe that could askew the numbers.

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Speaker 4: But I mean, at what point do we look at

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Speaker 4: a sample size and say this is who you are.

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Speaker 4: You're a third of the way through the season at

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Speaker 4: this point. This isn't like we're talking about two or

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Speaker 4: three games here. So are you a bad third down

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Speaker 4: conversion team on defense? And if that is the case,

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Speaker 4: is it sustainable for you to keep winning in this manner?

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Speaker 4: The takeaways certainly helped you. Can't you know, apologize for that.

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Speaker 4: I think if if any other stat determines winning and

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Speaker 4: losing an NFL, it's can you get takeaways?

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Speaker 3: And can you give us short fields?

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Speaker 4: And so they've done that, but it's still as concerning

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Speaker 4: that they haven't been at least moderately better when it

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Speaker 4: comes to third down. And I think a lot of

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Speaker 4: it has to do with the fact that you know,

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Speaker 4: if you target the middle of the field for the

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Speaker 4: culture right now, it's money all right.

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Speaker 2: Coming up at a moment, we turn our attention to

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Speaker 2: college football. Indiana rank number three Notre Dame with a

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Speaker 2: big game against USC and the senior college Sports rider

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Speaker 2: for the athletic Ralph Russo stops by next on the

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Speaker 2: Fan Morning show ninety three to five and one oh

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Speaker 2: seven to five to the Fan. We've been talking about

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Speaker 2: it all morning long. College football right smack in the

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Speaker 2: middle of everything, and games that are played between now

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Speaker 2: and the end of the year, like all of them,

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Speaker 2: determine who goes to the college football playoff, and we

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Speaker 2: might have two again from the state of Indiana. This

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Speaker 2: show up in the college football playoffs just like last year,

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Speaker 2: Indiana and Notre Dame. So it's worth talking about. And

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Speaker 2: of course number three ranking right now for Indiana Notre Dame.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if they get that win over US

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Speaker 2: see a twentieth rank team. Do they based on teams

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Speaker 2: in front of them? Obviously? Are they flirting with top

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Speaker 2: ten pretty quickly here?

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Speaker 5: I don't know necessarily about that. I know this, they

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Speaker 5: lose their seasons over they win.

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Speaker 2: You're the most negative guy I know.

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Speaker 3: No that is a fact.

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Speaker 5: It is a fact.

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Speaker 2: But you always go to the losing for Notre Dame first, Well,

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Speaker 2: they are just gonna win out come on, Well, they

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Speaker 2: have business to take care of after that, you know,

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Speaker 2: Notre Dame is no margin for air.

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Speaker 5: So they lose, they're done. They win. I think they

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Speaker 5: continue to be in a position to be in the

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Speaker 5: playoff if they do run at the table.

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Speaker 2: I'm just giving you a bad time. I know no

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Speaker 2: how it goes. So Ralph Russo knows a lot about

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Speaker 2: college football more than we do. Probably that's why we're

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Speaker 2: having them on the show now ninety three five and

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Speaker 2: one of something five to the fan on the pay

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Speaker 2: Less Liquors Hotline. He is the senior college football writer

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Speaker 2: at The Athletic. Good morning, Ralph, Thanks for getting up

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Speaker 2: early in being with us today. We appreciate it.

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Speaker 8: Oh, you're very welcome.

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Speaker 1: And there's certainly a lot of people who would argue

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Speaker 1: that I know more than that college football, considering some

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Speaker 1: of the messages I get in Twitter after I vote

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Speaker 1: in the poll on Sundays.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, we're gonna talk about Indiana a bunch here in

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Speaker 2: a minute, but pump my boy up here over here,

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Speaker 2: my Notre Dame guy, I know there's no margin for air,

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Speaker 2: but make the case for him why this team is

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Speaker 2: going to run the table and be fine.

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Speaker 8: Oh, I mean, they have one of the best offenses

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Speaker 8: in the country. I think there.

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Speaker 1: I think if they eat USC, it looks really good

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Speaker 1: for them to do just that.

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Speaker 8: I mean, if you the way they've.

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Speaker 1: Just demolished everybody since A and M and Miami, and

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Speaker 1: the fact that you play what essentially are toss up

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Speaker 1: games against A and M and Miami, who right now

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Speaker 1: are two of the top five six teams in the

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Speaker 1: I mean, depending on your perspective, to me, they're two

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Speaker 1: of the top five teams in the country. Maybe they're

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Speaker 1: two of the top six, you know, depending on again,

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Speaker 1: depending on where you have them in your your personal rankings. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think there's a there's a damn good chance that

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Speaker 1: they run the table.

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Speaker 6: Here.

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Speaker 8: I would also say this.

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Speaker 1: There's a pretty good chance we're going to have a

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Speaker 1: nine and three playoff team there. I'm not saying it's

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Speaker 1: going to be Notre Dame, but like if you just

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Speaker 1: sort of look at the projections that come to the

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Speaker 1: projection systems, I don't know if there's gonna be enough

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Speaker 1: ten win teams to fill this field. So I'm just

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Speaker 1: preparing everyone because it's gonna feel a little shocking that

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Speaker 1: a nine and three team, probably from the SEC because

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Speaker 1: they have the hardest schedules, very well might end up

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Speaker 1: in this playoff.

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Speaker 5: Ralph, you have covered college football for how many years?

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Speaker 1: I'm very old, so yes, it's been a very long time,

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Speaker 1: probably you know, twenty thirty years.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's a long long time.

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Speaker 5: And we're very appreciative of your time here at eight

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Speaker 5: am on this Thursday morning. Have you ever received a

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Speaker 5: text in your life that said, hey, man, could you

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Speaker 5: come on our radio show to talk about Indiana University's

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Speaker 5: football team?

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Speaker 1: Well, yes, this is a new world we are living in,

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Speaker 1: as I got to see up close when I went

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Speaker 1: to Eugene on Saturday, and yeah, I'm watching the Hoosiers.

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Speaker 8: You know, pretty convincingly.

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Speaker 1: Not just beat Oregon, because you know, there was a time,

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Speaker 1: a long time ago when Indiana went to Oregon and

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Speaker 1: won with about eighty eight yards of total offense because

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Speaker 1: they got five.

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Speaker 8: Turnovers from Oregon's team back in the early two thousands.

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Speaker 1: So but to see them go there too in a

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Speaker 1: top you know, ten matchup and truly handle one of

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Speaker 1: the most talented rosters in the country was you know,

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Speaker 1: a little stunning.

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Speaker 8: And what was also stunning.

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Speaker 1: Afterwards is to sort of see to sort of be

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Speaker 1: around the signetti experience, right, the signetti of it all.

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Speaker 1: This sixty four year old Yinzer who has become just

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Speaker 1: a rock star itching in college coaching, you know, to

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Speaker 1: beat the thirty eight year old Dan Lanning who's sort

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Speaker 1: of the up and coming and everybody kind of thinks

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Speaker 1: of him as the hot guy. And now again this

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Speaker 1: sixty four year old dude whose career has gone from

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Speaker 1: like Alabama to Elon is now the star in college football.

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Speaker 1: With his you know, sort of smirk for a smile

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Speaker 1: is remarkable.

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Speaker 8: It was remarkable. You know, the what that field, what

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Speaker 8: that scene.

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Speaker 1: Was like after the game as well, just you know,

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Speaker 1: Indiana fans refusing to leave Austin until he left the

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Speaker 1: field too.

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Speaker 4: Ralph Russo joining us here on the Palo Circus hot line,

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Speaker 4: my colleague at the Athletic Ralph, you're talking to James boy.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for getting back to me with my text. He

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Speaker 4: texted back immediately and told me he had Hey, I

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Speaker 4: can't do winsay can do. Thursday, I got a story

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Speaker 4: I got to write, and I was like, you know what,

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Speaker 4: I've been in that same world, my friend.

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Speaker 3: You know, hopefully got the story done and I'm sure

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Speaker 3: I'll check it out.

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Speaker 4: But you know, like you said, yeah, you alluded to

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Speaker 4: what I you showed and just looking ahead at their schedule,

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Speaker 4: you know, we talked about Notre Dame possibly running the

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Speaker 4: table end of the year, and it feels like the

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Speaker 4: big test for I you have kind of come and gone.

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Speaker 4: But as look at the rest of their slate, that

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Speaker 4: UCLA game in a couple of weeks, I'm like, man,

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Speaker 4: is that one I should be nervous about? So are

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Speaker 4: there a couple opponents because costlewall is weird where you're

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Speaker 4: looking like that's a game that you needs to make

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Speaker 4: sure they don't, you know, stink up or something like that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say, I'm still interested to see what

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Speaker 1: Penn State has left in the tank. The fact that

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Speaker 1: and you have to go to Happy Valley. The fact

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Speaker 1: of the matter is like there's still talent on that team,

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Speaker 1: you know. In fact, that literally was the story I

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Speaker 1: was working on is sort of an autopsy on what

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Speaker 1: went wrong there. Over the last three weeks and hopefully, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we'll be published in a couple hours. It was up

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Speaker 1: a little late last night in fact, getting the face,

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Speaker 1: so hopefully, so hopefully we got that across the finish line,

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Speaker 1: you know, so that one again just going to Happy Valley.

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Speaker 8: The interim coach.

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Speaker 1: There is a Penn State lifer, Terry Smith I who

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Speaker 1: is sort of the guy who he is very much

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Speaker 1: the point person.

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Speaker 8: On a lot of the recruiting stuff.

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Speaker 1: He was one of the original guys that Franklin brought

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Speaker 1: in there because he's so he's such a good recruiter,

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Speaker 1: such a good coach, and such a like a Penn Stater.

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Speaker 1: So I would wonder what that team looks like after

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Speaker 1: it sort of shakes off whatever was going on there

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Speaker 1: after they lost the Oregon that threw them into such

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Speaker 1: a bad funk. That's the most talented team probably left

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Speaker 1: on i U's schedule. I'm trying to think of, like

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Speaker 1: who else might be there. I don't have it pulled

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Speaker 1: up in front of me.

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Speaker 8: You're right.

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Speaker 1: UCLA is tricky. They have found they have sort of

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Speaker 1: unlocked and Eco and made them their offense a lot

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Speaker 1: tougher to guard now that now that Jerry Newheidel is

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Speaker 1: calling the place.

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Speaker 8: But the thing is again and as you guys noted.

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Speaker 1: Indiana probably has at least one, if not two losses

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Speaker 1: to play with here. So even if something weird pops

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Speaker 1: up and you get sniped by a team in the

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Speaker 1: middle of the pack in the Big Ten, you still

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Speaker 1: have some leeway here, especially with that win at Oregon

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Speaker 1: in the bank.

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Speaker 5: That's the voice of Ralph Russo again covers college football

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Speaker 5: for the Athletic And indeed was that SYU Oregon over

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Speaker 5: the weekend in the year twenty twenty five. I think

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Speaker 5: the question probably sounds a little different than maybe it

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Speaker 5: would have five ten years ago. Ralph, is the Indiana

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Speaker 5: job like somewhat comparable to the Penn State job? Or

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Speaker 5: is that still a ludicrous thought?

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Speaker 1: No, you know, I think it's a I think it

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Speaker 1: is a fair to ask question because essentially, if your

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Speaker 1: school is now this has always been the case to

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Speaker 1: a certain degree, but I think it's it's probably framed

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Speaker 1: a little differently now. Well, if your school is willing

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Speaker 1: to invest with players being paid now, you know, the

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Speaker 1: big stadium and and and IU has good stuff, right,

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Speaker 1: They've invested in more than just the football coach. But

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Speaker 1: I think some of the brand value that has been

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Speaker 1: that has always been, you know, the major factor in

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Speaker 1: brand value in tradition, which has always been a major

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Speaker 1: factor in recruiting, that gets chipped away when it's just about,

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Speaker 1: hey man, how much can you pay me?

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Speaker 8: Right, because that's why you know, that's that's that's one of.

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Speaker 1: The things that levels the playing field in pro sports, right,

657
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Speaker 1: only so many people can only one person give me

658
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Speaker 1: the highest paid player on every team. So at some

659
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 1: point that's going to you know, disperse the talent around

660
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Speaker 1: a little more evenly. I do think, and I'll still

661
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Speaker 1: align from my colleague on our podcast, The Audible Stuart Mandel.

662
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: The schools with one hundred seat stadiums, and I talked

663
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,959
Speaker 1: to coaches about this, there still is some brand value

664
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Speaker 1: out there. There are kids who will take one hundred

665
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 1: thousand less because you know what, Georgia, I can go

666
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 1: there and I can play for championships and they got

667
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 1: nice things, and that's sort of like that's that's just.

668
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 8: Sort of the factory, right.

669
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Speaker 1: So I do think the Ohio States, the Georgia's to

670
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 1: a certain degree, the Penn States, Michigans have a little

671
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 1: brand value head start on some of the rest. But man, again,

672
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 1: the playing field definitely seems to be leveled. And if

673
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: IU is truly invested in being a football school, and

674
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Speaker 1: all by all indications they are, yeah, it changes the

675
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Speaker 1: conversation on whether, if you know, to just get straight

676
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Speaker 1: to the point, whether do you stay at IU or

677
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: do you go to a Penn State?

678
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Speaker 8: Do you stay at IU or do.

679
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 1: You go to a Florida Right that that is a

680
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 1: very different question now than it was a few years ago.

681
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Speaker 4: Ralph, the last one from me, and again thanks for

682
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Speaker 4: your time. And it's not really a question, just a statement.

683
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 4: I heard you say early in this call that college

684
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 4: football fans are passionate about the rankings. Just put you

685
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Speaker 4: at number one and you'll be the you know, a

686
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 4: big man on campus around here.

687
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Speaker 1: The problem is, and I can't believe, like this is

688
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 1: a great way actually to the sort of another really

689
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: great way to describe like where we are in the

690
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Speaker 1: college football.

691
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Speaker 8: Universe with Indiana.

692
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 1: So I ranked Indiana number five this week, and you

693
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 1: would have thought, I like killed.

694
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 8: A puppy when it comes.

695
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Speaker 1: For IU fans like and startlingly, that is the lowest

696
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 1: they were ranked among any voters, which I saw and

697
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: was completely shocked, completely shocked. So the idea that someone

698
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Speaker 1: could have Indiana as the fifth best team in the

699
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Speaker 1: country and Indiana fans would get furious at me is

700
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Speaker 1: I can't, like bizarro?

701
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Speaker 2: Are we living in see you?

702
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 4: You were loved there for all those minutes on this

703
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Speaker 4: call in the last little you know, hiccup there at

704
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Speaker 4: the end. Man, I don't know these people wanted to

705
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 4: cut you off the.

706
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Speaker 2: Air right there.

707
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Speaker 5: Who did you have about are you? Ralph?

708
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Speaker 8: I'm a truth teller. Yeah, this is just you guys

709
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 8: are just gonna like get me crushed. Now get another

710
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 8: wave of it.

711
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 5: So I had Ralph Russo on Twitter, by the way, all.

712
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Speaker 1: Well yeah it's again, like it's gonna come again. I

713
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 1: got Ohio state number one, Miami number two A, and

714
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Speaker 1: m number three, and this is the one that set

715
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Speaker 1: everybody off. I have Alabama number four and Indiana number five.

716
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 1: But again, we live in a world where if I

717
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Speaker 1: rank Alabama above Indiana, people think I'm an idiot.

718
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 8: That like just it's like.

719
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Speaker 1: Where are we like, what are we even doing here?

720
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Speaker 1: It's just and that speaks to the amazing job that

721
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Speaker 1: Signetti has done.

722
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Speaker 8: And what a great story Indiana is.

723
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Speaker 1: I mean, they just they have been awesome and you

724
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Speaker 1: could have made a very legitimate case to rank them

725
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 1: as high as number one.

726
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 8: I think that they were.

727
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: You know, sort of in that three group of who

728
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 1: is going to be three through five for me, and

729
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 1: it was real close and I landed there. And again,

730
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Speaker 1: send all your complaints to Ralph d russo on X

731
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Speaker 1: well what.

732
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Speaker 3: I want a stand up guy.

733
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Speaker 4: We appreciate you, Ralph and we will catch up with

734
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Speaker 4: you next time. My friend, thanks so much for joining

735
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:23,959
Speaker 4: us this morning on the show.

736
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Speaker 10: Yeah, guys, anytime there you go.

737
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 2: You gotta be a basketball season. We've already had three

738
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 2: preseason games for the Indiana Pacers and we'll start seeing

739
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 2: some college basketball at the legendary Hinkle Fieldhouse tomorrow night.

740
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 2: Butler Bulldogs will be hosting a Notre Dame there and Kevin,

741
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 2: this is gonna be you know, Indiana's got a whole

742
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,879
Speaker 2: new coach and a whole new roster teams like, but

743
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 2: Butler's pretty much got a whole new roster coming in

744
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:04,359
Speaker 2: with that Mata too.

745
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, a lot of new guys. Finley Bizjack one of

746
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 5: the few returnees there Michael Jai from Gonzaga Pepperdine I

747
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 5: think originally, and then Gonzaga that is a grown man

748
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 5: that has a lot of skill, So I'll be curious

749
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 5: to see how he does in the big He's big

750
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 5: year certainly for Thad Mada year four and tomorrow night.

751
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 5: And I like how college teams are doing this. You know,

752
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 5: Purdue's got Kentucky next week in the exhibition game. I

753
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 5: you's got married tomorrow. Then they'll have Baylor. I believe

754
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 5: that's next weekend as well. I like how it's turned

755
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,359
Speaker 5: into this of like some Marquie opponents, and of course

756
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 5: Notre name a lot of former Butler ties, Michael Shrewsbury,

757
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 5: Brady Stevens, the son of Brad on their roster. So

758
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 5: I like how college basketball's kind of evolved to this

759
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 5: as we get some of these Marquee exhibition games and

760
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 5: they're not those like secret scrimmages behind closed doors.

761
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Speaker 2: Well let's find out more about this team coming up

762
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 2: in twenty five twenty six. The head coach of the

763
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 2: Butler Bulldogs on the line with us on the pay

764
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Speaker 2: List Lookers Hotline. That would be Thad Mada coach. Good morning,

765
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 2: welcome into the fan. Morning shit, how you doing doing well?

766
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Speaker 6: Good morning guys.

767
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 2: Uh, boy, you have been under construction. You've had a

768
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:07,479
Speaker 2: lot of work to do over the last several months.

769
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 2: Tell us a little bit about what's been exciting about

770
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 2: it for you and what you're looking forward to.

771
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, it has been a lot of construction.

772
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 6: I will say that we had eleven new players and

773
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 6: and you know, of the last year's team, Finley, uh,

774
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,399
Speaker 6: you know, played a lot of minutes. Evan didn't play

775
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 6: a ton, Jamie Kaiju was out, and Ethan McCombe, you know,

776
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 6: spurringly played a little bit. So it's it's been a

777
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 6: it's been a long process. But uh, you know, I'm

778
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 6: pretty pleased with what we've done. I think the eleven

779
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 6: guys that we've added, number one, I think we brought

780
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 6: in really good kids and they've got a tremendous work ethic. So, uh,

781
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 6: it's been a it's been a fun summer and and

782
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 6: uh into the fall here of I'm just trying to

783
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,399
Speaker 6: put everything together and and you know, quite honestly, I think,

784
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 6: like a lot of teams in college basketball, we're still

785
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 6: learning our team. I think, you know, tomorrow night game

786
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 6: will let us know a little bit more about them

787
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 6: and uh, just sort of you know who we are,

788
00:36:58,800 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 6: what we got to get better at.

789
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Speaker 4: Coach, When you look at this opportunity you have tomorrow night,

790
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 4: how big is that, like you just alluded to just

791
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 4: to I guess, set the standard or set a barometer

792
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 4: for where you are right now and versus where you

793
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 4: want to be, because you know in Notre Dame, yeah,

794
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 4: it's an exhibition game.

795
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 3: They're not coming here to lose.

796
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 4: So what do you think that experience will be like

797
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 4: as you try to get this group more integrated with

798
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 4: each other?

799
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Speaker 6: Well, yeah, I think the big thing for us because

800
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 6: this is really an early game, and I think for

801
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 6: both us and them, this is gonna be a good

802
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 6: experience to sort of gauge. I know for us because

803
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 6: you get to this stage of practice and you're saying,

804
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 6: what are we missing? What do we get better at?

805
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 6: And when you're going against the same guys every day,

806
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 6: it's probably puts a little bit of blinders on you.

807
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 6: And you know, I know for us, and I think

808
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 6: Notre Dame is going to do the same thing. I mean,

809
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 6: they gave me a minute sheet the other day. The

810
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 6: coach is presented to me one of our guys did

811
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Speaker 6: when he was with the Bucks for an exhibition game,

812
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,280
Speaker 6: and it looked like it was Chinese to me, with

813
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 6: with all the substitutions and stuff we're going to make

814
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 6: because we got to play guys, right, it was it

815
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 6: was it was mine. But I'm just like, all right,

816
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 6: just sent theim in when they're supposed to go in.

817
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 6: I can't look at this sheet, but I think for us,

818
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:15,359
Speaker 6: we've we've got to get everybody we want. We want

819
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,800
Speaker 6: to get our freshman in the game. We want to

820
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 6: look at some some different combinations. Uh, you know, Jalen

821
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 6: Jackson just started going full court this week, so he's

822
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 6: on a minute restriction tomorrow night, and and uh you know, yeah,

823
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 6: like I said, we want to win the game, but

824
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,919
Speaker 6: I'm I'm more focused on trying to get this team

825
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 6: better and seeing sort of what we've got. Uh, as

826
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 6: we you know, build for November fifth, I think it

827
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 6: is our home opener bad.

828
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Speaker 5: Do you like how college basketball has gotten to this

829
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 5: state with the exhibition games of the old secret scrimmages

830
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 5: now seem to be more in the public eye against

831
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 5: you know, quality opponents.

832
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, I do. But you know the one thing about

833
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,320
Speaker 6: the secret scrimmage is that you know, we played Illinois

834
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,439
Speaker 6: last year and it was great because you know, Brad

835
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 6: and I could op at any given time, and you know,

836
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 6: I know we ran something one time He's like, stops,

837
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 6: I'll run that again for us. And you know, I

838
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 6: mean you you were teaching more because we had asked

839
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 6: if we'd have like a no foul out rule and

840
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 6: they won't let us do that. And I'd mentioned it's

841
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,280
Speaker 6: a notre dame. Can we have as many thirty second

842
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 6: time outs as we won? And I guess we can't

843
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 6: do that, so I guess it's like a real game.

844
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 6: But no, I you know, my biggest focus on we

845
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 6: we had to continue to get this team better. And

846
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 6: and you know you're gonna have film after the game

847
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 6: against different opponents, and I think note dames of the

848
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 6: team this show really do so, uh, it'll be fun

849
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:44,479
Speaker 6: for guys. I know they're excited to bang heads against

850
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 6: somebody else besides ourselves.

851
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 5: Definitely a new look to this Butler team here coming

852
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 5: up here for the second stint if you will with

853
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 5: THATDMANA And you can obviously hear Butler games on our

854
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 5: airwaves and our sister stations coming up this season. We

855
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 5: saw the announcement earlier this week coach of Gordon Hayward

856
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 5: gonna help you guys out in some capacity here. I

857
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 5: think we've seen some of these, you know NBA players

858
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 5: wanting to do this with their respective colleges here over

859
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 5: the last few years.

860
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 6: Uh.

861
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 5: What exactly will Gordon's role look like in retirement?

862
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 6: Well, number one, I mean, what a what a great

863
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 6: thing for our program to have him involved. And I

864
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 6: mean you you think about Butler basketball and he's definitely

865
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 6: the poster child. And I think, you know, anytime you

866
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 6: can get a guy like that around your program, around

867
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 6: our players, I think it's gonna be great for us.

868
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 6: I mean him him, He's coming in data practice and

869
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 6: you know, just getting to know our guys and and

870
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 6: know our staff and and that sort of thing. You know,

871
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 6: in terms of the recruiting, I think that you know,

872
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,800
Speaker 6: having somebody like that that can can talk to a

873
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 6: family say look, here's here's what Butler University did for me.

874
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 6: And I think it would be hard pressed for somebody

875
00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 6: to say, well, I think I take that route to

876
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 6: twelve years in the Star two max contracts Uh, it was.

877
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 6: It was a great situation.

878
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:07,359
Speaker 8: So you know, we're we're very, very.

879
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 6: Excited to have him around and and uh, you know,

880
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 6: the extent of how much, I'm not exactly sure, but

881
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 6: you know, he spoke to the team last year in

882
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,919
Speaker 6: New York and uh, like I said, I'm just I'm

883
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 6: elated to have him, you know, involved with us and

884
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 6: and looking forward to building a great relationship with him.

885
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 4: He's got to be in these scrimmages, right, He's got

886
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 4: to be. He cannot be this close removed from playing

887
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:33,800
Speaker 4: professionally and come out there and like slides. So whatever

888
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 4: you do, coach to please make sure Gordon, Hey, we're

889
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 4: just you know, reminds me young, is that? Hey, back

890
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 4: in the day, I used.

891
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 3: To do this for real.

892
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 6: No, there's no doubt about that. And I think he

893
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 6: only played two years and now it's crazy is they

894
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:48,479
Speaker 6: may give him two more years. Who knows.

895
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 3: There you go, the world has changed a little bit.

896
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 6: You know, they're just handing guys years. Maybe we can

897
00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 6: get him back. I don't know.

898
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 2: There you go, Hey, front court depth a little bit

899
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 2: of a problem last year. Where are you at right

900
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 2: now as you look at this kind of newly constructed team.

901
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 2: How are you feeling about that?

902
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 8: You know, I like our depth.

903
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 6: We're really athletic at the five spot. And you know,

904
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 6: we added Kevin m Z a couple of weeks ago,

905
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 6: and he's a little bit banged up right now. You

906
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 6: got hit the other day in practice. I don't think

907
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 6: he'll go tomorrow night. But with Johann and Drayton, it's

908
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,320
Speaker 6: a different look. I mean, they got signs, they got athleticism,

909
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 6: and both guys played extremely hard. It's kind of refreshing

910
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 6: to see out there.

911
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 2: Well, it's always good to talk to you, coach. We

912
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 2: look forward to our weekly visits with you as the

913
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:41,800
Speaker 2: season rolls along. Excited to have you back on the

914
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,319
Speaker 2: radio station, and excited to get out of Hinkle again

915
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 2: and watch some college basketball, which is never a bad thing.

916
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, I'm excited.

917
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 2: All Right, we'll talk to you soon. Thanks so much.

918
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 6: All right, guys, have a great day, you bet.

919
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 2: Also, people are planning on going out there tomorrow. They're

920
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 2: going to debut the brand new video board fourteen feet tall,

921
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:02,879
Speaker 2: uh over mid court, so that'll be kind of fun

922
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 2: to watch too. Ashinkle continues to get upgraded and updated

923
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 2: a little bit.

924
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 5: Always enjoy a went well, I guess a fall knight

925
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 5: in this case, but a winter night inside of that place.

926
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 5: One of the Saint John's game last year, that was

927
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 5: a rocking environment there and the Big East. You know what,

928
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 5: two teams right in the top five. I think in

929
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 5: the preseason poll, I think it goes yukon of Saint

930
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 5: John's back to back if I'm not mistaken in that

931
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 5: poll there. So big year for Butler. Need to get

932
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 5: back in the tournament and we'll see how a roster

933
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:30,839
Speaker 5: that I think has got a lot more lanth, lot

934
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 5: more depth to it and in recent years should be

935
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:37,399
Speaker 5: better to hold up defensively than they have in years past.

936
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they played in the n T two

937
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 2: years ago and then the brand new Tournament last year,

938
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 2: the brand new College Basketball Tournament they had last year.

939
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's a new staying in those postseason tournaments. They'd

940
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 5: hand those out like Oprah.

941
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I want to get back to the NAM

942
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 2: this year. You get one, you get one, you get one.

943
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 5: I mean, hell, they hand out int tournament bid. It's

944
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 5: like it's Oprah.

945
00:43:57,520 --> 00:43:58,360
Speaker 3: They're trying to expand it.

946
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 2: So Yeah, a long time ago, I was I was

947
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 2: dating a girl. She we went to a Chicago for

948
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 2: a weekend and she drug me to an OPRAH taping.

949
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 5: Well there you.

950
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 2: Go, so there you go that it says like, check

951
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:09,479
Speaker 2: that one off the list.

952
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 5: Therefore you anniversary, don't play this part of the show.

953
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,919
Speaker 2: Hey, clearly Christine was the one, because twenty one years later,

954
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 2: here we are.

955
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 5: You can dig yourself out of that one, which was.

956
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 2: Way before I even met her, way before.

957
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 5: I even if you want to transition to colts or

958
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 5: something there by all means.

959
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 2: Always trying to get me in trouble, Kevin.

960
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:27,839
Speaker 6: What.

961
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 2: A long time ago? Yeah, nobody else even exists before that,

962
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 2: nothing ever happens exactly.

963
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,359
Speaker 5: That's how you got to treat the wedding anniversary.

964
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 2: It's probably best because what happens is eventually you meet

965
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 2: the one, you know she's the one, and nothing. That's it.

966
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 5: You said, we have a break, Caleb, the head is

967
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,439
Speaker 5: ever we do? I said, Jeff stepped on a rake.

968
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 5: But yes, break as well.

969
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 2: Before we get to the break though, Uh text mew

970
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 2: the wor it's thad Mada thad Mada, and we'll hook

971
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 2: you up with some tickets to tomorrow night's game. Notre

972
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 2: Dame taking on Butler a pair of tickets to go

973
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:11,760
Speaker 2: see that one tomorrow night at Hinklefield House. Bad Mada

974
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,479
Speaker 2: at two three nine ten seventy will continue the show

975
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 2: after Kevin tries to get me in trouble even further on,

976
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 2: ninety comes out there