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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't believe him. Don't you believe it?

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Speaker 2: Heard that from the old Tom and Jerry cartoon. Same thing,

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Speaker 2: same thing here, Don't you believe it.

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Speaker 3: I don't believe Jimmy Kimmel at all. I don't believe

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Speaker 3: I don't believe any of it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: No, So he returned to the air last night after

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Speaker 2: his show was preempted for nearly a week suspension following

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Speaker 2: his comments after the killing of Charlie Kirk, and ABC

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Speaker 2: deemed them ill timed and insensitive. But yeah, he had

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Speaker 2: some things to say. Let's take a listen.

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Speaker 4: I don't think what I have to say is going

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Speaker 4: to make much of a difference.

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Speaker 1: If you like me, like me. If you don't, you don't.

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Speaker 4: I have no illusions about changing anyone's mind. But I

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Speaker 4: do want to make something clear because it's important to

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Speaker 4: me as a human, and that is you understand that

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Speaker 4: it was never my intention to make light of the.

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Speaker 1: Murder of a young man. I don't. I don't think

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Speaker 4: I posted a message on Instagram when the Dames killed,

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Speaker 4: sending love to his family and asking him for a compassion, and.

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Speaker 1: I meant it. I still do.

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Speaker 4: Nor was it my intention to blame any specific group

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's where he's lying to You're right there, because

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Speaker 2: this is what he said, the Maga gang desperately trying

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Speaker 2: He's contradicting himself right there. He's completely lying.

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Speaker 3: Well, of course he is. But what's the how often

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Speaker 3: we catch them like an irrefutable lies, irrefutable just contradictions

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Speaker 3: would anybody hold Jimmy Kimmel to it? And of course

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Speaker 3: said something horrible rendous. Now, look this I don't That

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Now, Look, I don't think joking I think it was

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Speaker 3: different people can debate that. I think he was pointing

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Speaker 3: for joking period. Pointing out the hypocrisy of politicians, or

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Speaker 3: or or you know. I don't have any problem with that.

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Speaker 3: But the fact that he did say without a doubt

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Speaker 2: So where was he when Tucker let Go or Roseanne

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Speaker 2: Then he did this seventeen minute monologue and he positioned

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Speaker 1: Which is fine.

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Speaker 3: other than And this is what's interesting. Did both Sinclair

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Speaker 3: so it's basically sixty of your affiliates, including Hammer. Nigel

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Speaker 3: and they made a great point Hammer and Nigel did,

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Speaker 3: If you're an advertiser and you're saying sixty TV stations

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Speaker 3: I'm not paying for this.

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Speaker 2: Right, or at least you're getting a rate cut.

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Speaker 3: Because how could you possibly say that's fair? If the

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Speaker 2: I've got a personal Jimmy Kimmel's story.

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Speaker 1: Oh you know, Jimmy Kimmel.

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Speaker 2: I don't know him, but he did bully me one.

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Speaker 2: No, let me put it to you this way. Consider

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Speaker 2: this Jimmy, and we've heard he has hundreds of people

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Speaker 2: on his staff, dozens of riders. Correct. When I was

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Speaker 2: was me and one other guy, cameraman Tony Beltrand. I wrote, produced,

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Speaker 2: And Jimmy Kimmel, who was sitting in Market two in LA,

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Speaker 2: that's a bully. He had dozens of riders and the

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Speaker 2: It was talk like a pirate day and I talked

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Speaker 3: So I'm very curious. Okay, I'm fascinated by this. Did

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Speaker 2: It's the fact that he's employing all of these riders

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Speaker 3: Didn't Letterman used to do that too, where he would

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Speaker 2: So like he had hundreds of employees and I had two, yeah,

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Speaker 1: How did you contact him?

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Speaker 2: No, no, you've no moved on, didn't care, but you've heard.

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Speaker 1: How you know?

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Speaker 2: He has one hundred and twenty six thousand viewers a

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Speaker 2: That's what's being reported? One hundred twenty six.

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Speaker 1: Of three hundred and thirty million people.

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Speaker 2: Now I get more than that.

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Speaker 1: Again, it's night.

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Speaker 3: But that I'm not saying because I heard somebody else

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Speaker 2: And that as well.

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Speaker 1: I'll hire you. Yeah, other than I hire you.

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Speaker 2: It's one hundred and twenty six what in one market

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's and I'm not blaming you because I've heard

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Speaker 3: other people say it's like he's bad, but like that's

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Speaker 2: With one hundred and twenty nine thousand in the eighteen

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Speaker 1: And I'm not I wasn't trying to go you.

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Speaker 3: I'd heard other people say that too, and I was like,

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Speaker 3: and that's all he's pulling in to begin with, and

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Speaker 3: now you've cut off a sizable portion of that, how

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