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Speaker 1: Fingers, I told you that I cleaned out the human art. Yes,

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Speaker 1: getting rid of the things that have been in the

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Speaker 2: We've all been there. You're like, I have not had

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Speaker 1: It has been years or it has been months, and

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Speaker 1: and I just side in my head and there's something

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Speaker 2: It's like me with my roller blades. It is God,

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say that, Sam, you read my mind.

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Speaker 2: I've got powers. Seat drinks smoke.

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Speaker 1: I'm Tony Kats And that is America's favorite amateur drinker,

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Speaker 1: Fingers molloy. There is a group called Old fifty five.

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Speaker 1: Old fifty five Distillery. They're good people. Jason Fruits, that

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Speaker 1: whole team, they're really absolutely excellent, and they do some beautiful, beautiful,

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Speaker 1: beautiful bourbons. They're the single barrels. They do a sweet

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Speaker 1: corn bourbon and then they do this the Wabash cannonball. Now,

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Speaker 1: I must admit the level I know about the Wabash

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Speaker 1: Cannonball is zero because this is not a bourbon. This

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Speaker 1: is an American whiskey. All bourbons are whiskeys, but not

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Speaker 1: all whiskies are bourbons. The Wabash cannibal our cannonball, thank

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Speaker 1: you very Much, is named after a song, Oh the

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Speaker 1: good people at Crowned Heads who we love and adore

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Speaker 1: had a cigar, the Wabash cannonball. So this is named

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Speaker 1: I think it goes back to like nineteen oh three

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Speaker 1: is what doesn't say? It's had like a host of

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Speaker 1: other names. So that's the name of this Old fifty five.

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Speaker 1: It's the Wabash Wabash Cannonball. The Wabash River is a

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Speaker 1: river in Indiana. The problem is I started looking for

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Speaker 1: information about this. What could I learn about this this whiskey,

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Speaker 1: and I found zero? Nothing on the Old fifty five

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Speaker 1: Distillery dot com website, nothing in form of a review.

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Speaker 2: Zero.

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Speaker 1: I don't know where I got it. I don't know

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Speaker 2: Now, fingers maloy, So what say you? Let's go for it?

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Speaker 2: So this would be like eight years old. Right?

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Speaker 1: For all we know as far, I have no idea

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Speaker 1: I do know is that is a very light color.

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Speaker 1: That is a very that is like water down apple juice.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, light beer, right, light beer. That

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Speaker 1: nicely done, well played right there, and I'm going to

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Speaker 1: the nose, that's a that's a fair amount of ethanol. Children, Wow,

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Speaker 1: that's a that's a fair amount of Hey, how would

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Speaker 1: you like to how'd you like to be noticed?

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Speaker 2: Huh? Are you getting orchard too? There is definitely a

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Speaker 2: fruit going on for sure. Now. I was like, I

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Speaker 2: don't want to say green apple, but it you are

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Speaker 2: on fire today. The orchard's really good. The green apple

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Speaker 2: I don't know about. Wow.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, there's ethanol there. The athanol is a presence?

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Speaker 1: Is that old orchard?

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Speaker 2: Is right? I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't am nowhere near oak on this from all

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Speaker 1: fifteen when you have to say is that oak? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's probably not oak. It's probably like.

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Speaker 2: An oak veneer. Wow. Right, that's like saying is that oak?

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Speaker 1: And then you realize you're in ikea, it doesn't.

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Speaker 2: It's not oak, but honestly, the athanol is really there.

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Speaker 2: But it is. Orchard's really good.

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Speaker 1: There's a fruit and as it stays in the in

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Speaker 1: It's interesting, Fingers Moy, I have no idea. All I

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Speaker 1: know it's forty percent alcohol by volume for eighty proofs

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Speaker 1: and no applause from fingers mo oy. It doesn't plug

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Speaker 2: But uh you uh you ready for this. It's been

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Speaker 1: Fingers Moy is doing what's known as the Kentucky chew

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Speaker 1: right there on the old fifty five Wabash cannonball American whiskey,

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Speaker 1: going back in, ladies and gentlemen, This is a first.

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Speaker 2: It's so it's it's it's not pronounced. It's not something

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Speaker 2: I'm going back and forth on it. It's probably both, but

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Speaker 2: it's so subtle, Tony, there's there's nothing about this for

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Speaker 2: little honey, little vanilla.

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Speaker 1: And I'm going in the old fifty five Wabash cannonball

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Speaker 2: He's going in ladies and gentlemen, and he is doing

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Speaker 2: what we like to call sagonna swish, the Memphis munch,

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Speaker 1: First, let me say that the ethanol is not what

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Speaker 2: It's warm, but.

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Speaker 1: It's not spicy. The fruit is absolutely there. That's uh huh.

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Speaker 1: That's juicy fruit. That is juicy fruit that lays on

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Speaker 2: Right, This is very very you said green apple. I

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Speaker 1: Of a unique kind of way to view things. I'm

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Speaker 1: I actually think this would be solid on a cube.

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Speaker 2: On a cube. By the way.

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Speaker 1: To finish, heat in the cheek, nothing in the throat, nothing,

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Speaker 1: zero in the chest. Zero maybe the slightest hint of something.

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Speaker 2: That's interesting. I wanted to look up the flavor for

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Speaker 2: a profile juicy fruit, just to refresh my memory because

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Speaker 2: it's been a long time. A blend of bananas, pineapple,

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Speaker 2: it's nothing like juicy fruit. That's what it reminded me of.

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Speaker 1: Its problem is how is it's it's it's This is

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Speaker 2: It shouldn't be there, should it not? Don't have the answer.

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Speaker 2: The old fifty five, I do like Old fifty five.

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Speaker 2: I like those guys quite a bit. This is the

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Speaker 2: Wabash cannonball.

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Speaker 1: If you find it, try it. By the way, I

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Speaker 1: don't know where I found it. We're just cleaning out

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Speaker 2: Seat drink smoke.

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Speaker 1: I'm Tony Kats That right there is America's favorite amateur drinker,

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Speaker 1: Fingers molloy. You may have heard the story that Karen

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Speaker 1: is considering a sale of four roses selling the brand

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Speaker 1: the I mean four freaking roses for a billion dollars.

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Speaker 2: It's four roses. I mean, the.

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Speaker 1: Small Batch Select is still in my top five. I

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Speaker 2: It's an incredible thing to think that they would unload it.

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Speaker 1: But sometimes a conversation like that, while they're going to

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Speaker 1: Businesses of that size, of that magnitude, Fingers, they make

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Speaker 2: That we don't quite understand and we don't quite know. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: hot to now all of a sudden, you're seeing distilleries

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Speaker 1: So that's one story, and people could say, ooh, there's

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Speaker 1: Uncle Nearest and Uncle nearst is a really interesting story

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Speaker 1: because the brand is based on the slave that taught

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Speaker 1: Jack Daniels how to be a distiller. Now, to the

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Speaker 1: Nearest became Jack daniels first master distiller. Right, that's the

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Speaker 1: story and everything else I'm just saying, I don't know

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Speaker 1: how much is one hundred percent perfectly accurate. They faced

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Speaker 1: Chapter eleven bankruptcy and that means a forced asset.

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Speaker 2: Sale as well.

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Speaker 1: You could argue, man, this says a lot about what's

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Speaker 1: going on in Bourbon. This is one of those moments, Fingers,

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Speaker 1: Go on, you understand what I'm saying, Yes, as long

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Speaker 1: and we have all seen businesses that have been mismanaged.

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Speaker 2: I cannot prove.

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Speaker 1: By any stretch that there was any mismanagement, and I

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Speaker 1: am not making that accusation.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't have any inside knowledge. What I do know

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Speaker 2: The story from the street at dot com. It includes French.

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Speaker 1: Vineyards, a Cognact chateau and other real estate to try

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Speaker 2: So let's go back into why does Uncle.

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Speaker 1: Nears own a French vineyard, a Cognact chateau and what

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Speaker 2: Right, but the sales are good. We'll work our way

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Speaker 1: What is good, what is possible in a good cycle,

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Speaker 2: That is a thousand percent accurate as an observation, fingers.

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Speaker 1: So I was doing a little more investigation, and so

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Speaker 2: So let's say the worst happens, and we're talking total liquidation,

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Speaker 1: So now I say that with a caveat what if

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Speaker 1: This was their Wabash Cannonball. Now, Wabash Cannonball.

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Speaker 1: This is an American whiskey right here. A lot of

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Speaker 2: interested to see you've got it on a full rock there?

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Speaker 2: Your wine mom imitation. That is my That is my.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. I'll be here all week trying. It's pretty good.

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Speaker 1: Maybe if you had bought the nice Rocks glasses, but no,

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Speaker 1: And I know the guys at all fifty five are

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Speaker 2: Like, oh my gosh, you should have called it this

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Speaker 2: For me, it brought out a little bit more that orchard.

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Speaker 2: it's worth a poor You start talking about you know,

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Speaker 2: price point, you know, fifty sixty seventy dollars a bottle.

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Speaker 2: I don't think so, but I think it's it's well

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Speaker 2: worth a try, especially if you find it at your

435
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Speaker 2: faceavorite lounge. Yeah, I'm gonna say it a little differently.

436
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Speaker 1: And again, these are guys I really like, and I

437
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 1: like a bunch of what they do. If you found

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Speaker 1: it under twenty five dollars a bottle, not forty, you

439
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Speaker 1: found it under twenty five dollars a bottle, I'd be.

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Speaker 2: Like, yeah, sure, I'm accounting for inflation, Tony. Yeah I

441
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Speaker 2: did too, you know. And I could just be being

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Speaker 2: a harsh in that regard.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't require that kind of of harshness to it.

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Speaker 2: It did play nice that I thought it would, it

445
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Speaker 2: really did.

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Speaker 1: I think that the nose is a bit confusing with

447
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Speaker 1: that that level of ethanol that was in there. And

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Speaker 1: and I'm just I'm I'm a fan of them. I

449
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 1: have a lot of respect for those guys, So I

450
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Speaker 1: don't want to be you know, too much, but like,

451
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,159
Speaker 1: they've got some really good bottled and bond product and

452
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Speaker 1: other things, some single malt product that's very much worthwhile.

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Speaker 1: And I would absolutely be somebody who recommends the Old

454
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Speaker 1: fifty five brand for sure, Old fifty five Distillery dot com.

455
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Speaker 1: But it's time fingers Molly, my gosh, we wasted a

456
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Speaker 1: lot of time.

457
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Speaker 2: We really should learn how to focus. We should have rehearsals.

458
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Speaker 2: Time for News of the week, Tony Foo Fighters announced

459
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,680
Speaker 2: that they are going to have a limited stadium tour

460
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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty six. They're going to have dates in

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Speaker 2: Canada and the United States. Oh and it appears Mexico

462
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Speaker 2: City as well. You can see them in Detroit, Chicago, Cleveland.

463
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Speaker 2: But they're only doing about what twelve fifteen shows. But

464
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Speaker 2: it's the first tour that they've done since their drummer

465
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Speaker 2: passed away.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that people will still go, and I

467
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Speaker 1: think they'll still very much be able to hit the sound.

468
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Speaker 2: I think that life of that Taylor Hawkins, the late.

469
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Speaker 1: Drummer, is the kind of thing that still moves people,

470
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Speaker 1: and it moves them hard. If you don't know the story,

471
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 1: he was the drummer for Alanis Moore set and then

472
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Speaker 1: got the chance to be in the Food Fighters and.

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Speaker 2: I took it.

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Speaker 1: And you know, you listen to Dave Grohl discuss it,

475
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Speaker 1: He's like that was like the glue piece, Like that

476
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Speaker 1: was the Okay, I had somebody who understood the drive

477
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 1: like I do, and then everything else kind of fell

478
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Speaker 1: into place.

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Speaker 2: I think it's still gonna be great shows. I think

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Speaker 2: people are gonna enjoy the daylights out of it. You've

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Speaker 2: seen food Fighters in yes, and I'm gonna see him

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Speaker 2: again next year. I already I already have my tickets

483
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Speaker 2: with time. You seen him, and I'm seeing him at

484
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Speaker 2: Ford Field and Detroit. Look at you, Look at you.

485
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Speaker 2: It's gonna be I haven't seen a stadium show we're

486
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Speaker 2: talking football stadium since Pink Floyd in nineteen ninety four,

487
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Speaker 2: so I'll be interested to see what it's like because

488
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Speaker 2: I've seen Food Fighters outdoors and that was a great show.

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Speaker 2: That's right. They played a local ampathy in her here. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I should have gone fingers maloy. Were we or were

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Speaker 2: we not?

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Speaker 1: Just moments ago on eat, drink smoke talking about.

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Speaker 2: The changes at CBS. Uh, Yes we were, I think

494
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Speaker 2: bringing back everybody loves Raymond and were we or were

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Speaker 2: we not?

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Speaker 1: Or when I say we, I mean me saying, oh,

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Speaker 1: people are losing their jobs. Okay, I can't get worked

498
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Speaker 1: up about it, and I can't necessarily feel bad about it.

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Speaker 2: People lose their jobs sometimes and it's terrible.

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Speaker 1: But if this idea that somehow, because you work in

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Speaker 1: a certain industry you are.

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Speaker 2: Immune or it's more damaging and more awful. I find

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Speaker 2: to be nonsensical. I believe you said learn to code.

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00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 2: Now that's what they would say to me.

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Speaker 1: Oh if I lost my job, and right now, I

506
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Speaker 1: would tell anybody learn AI because that's what's doing all

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Speaker 1: the coding.

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Speaker 2: It's eat, drink, smoke. I'm Tony Katz.

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Speaker 1: That right there is America's favorite amateur drinker, Fingers Maloy.

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00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 2: Now you don't know Fingers the way I know Fingers.

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Speaker 2: When Fingers MOLOI wants to speak to you, and let's

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Speaker 2: see if I will shock him with this because he

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Speaker 2: doesn't know the story.

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Speaker 1: When Fingers wants to speak to you and Fingers want

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Speaker 1: it to be you know, a private conversation will go

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Speaker 1: no seriously. Oprah Gail True, Oprah Gail and Oprah is

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Speaker 1: Oprah Winfrey and Gail is Gail King from CBS. Gail

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Speaker 1: King will be leaving CBS News broke, literally as we're

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Speaker 1: recording it broke. Barry Weis has taken over CBS. Large

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00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 1: scale changes are taking place. Barry Weiss was with The

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Speaker 1: New York Times, left the New York Times because The

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Speaker 1: New York Times wasn't interested in reporting in her view,

523
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 1: started something called the Free Press, became wildly popular, sold

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Speaker 1: to CBS, which is a group called sky Dance Now

525
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Speaker 1: that owns it one hundred and fifty million dollars, and

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Speaker 1: she took over as the executive editor of CBS News.

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Speaker 1: People are losing their minds, and you would think, well,

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Speaker 1: they're losing their minds because Barry Weiss is politically conservative

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00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 1: and CBS is politically liberal. No, no, no, Barry Weiss

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00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 1: is politically liberal. But she believes in actual news and

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Speaker 1: that's what has everybody in an uproar. Gail King expected

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Speaker 1: to depart. She's been hosting CBS Morning since twenty twelve,

533
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Speaker 1: will leave the show next year when her contract ends

534
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 1: in May. So was she told there will be no

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Speaker 1: contract extension or did she say I'm going out on

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Speaker 1: my own terms before I'm told there's no contract extension.

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Speaker 2: Oh you know the answer to that question, I don't.

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Speaker 2: I'm fifty to fifty. Oh no, they're showing her the door.

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00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 2: And this is what I was going to ask you.

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Speaker 2: This to me feels like the grip that Oprah has

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Speaker 2: on media has has slowly slipped and has lessened to

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Speaker 2: the point where I don't think this could have happened five,

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Speaker 2: six years ago or ten excuse me, ten years ago.

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Speaker 2: Maybe not, because they would have been too scared to

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Speaker 2: take on Oprah. But now they don't have a problem

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Speaker 2: taking on Oprah. And I think the only thing that

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00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,959
Speaker 2: they're doing with this is showing Oprah the respect of

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Speaker 2: letting a Gail say that, Oh you know what, I

549
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Speaker 2: think I'm gonna be leaving on my own terms. Here's

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Speaker 2: the kicker about this story. She's seventy. Stop it.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, God bless you, Gail King seventy That's amazing.

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Speaker 2: Never would have guessed that in a million years. Never

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Speaker 2: would have guessed that. So what's gonna happen over there?

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Speaker 2: You know, you see these people being laid off, but

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Speaker 2: they're still gonna have these shows. We talked about the

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Speaker 2: CBS weekend morning show. They've got what on Sunday? They've

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Speaker 2: got Sunday Morning? Uh with a what is it?

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Speaker 1: Charles Carralt, Wow, what show CBS Sunday Morning?

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Speaker 2: That was CBS Morning with Johnny Knoxville. Ah, that is

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Speaker 2: I don't think Charles is with us anymore. But having

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Speaker 2: said that, Uh, they're still gonna have these shows, right,

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Speaker 2: or is it gonna shrink to the point where these

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Speaker 2: networks aren't going to have these big Sunday morning shows anymore?

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Speaker 2: And it's maybe I'll have the news shows like Meet

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Speaker 2: the Press and stuff like that, but the kind of

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Speaker 2: news magazine shows that you would see on a Sunday morning.

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Speaker 2: Are those gonna go by the wayside? And we'll see

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Speaker 2: repeats of everybody else?

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Speaker 1: But I mean usually this is the conversation of his

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Speaker 1: Late Night gonna go by the wayside?

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Speaker 2: And I argue, yes, it will.

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Speaker 1: There's a ROI conversation involved, and unless you're gonna have

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Speaker 1: Late Night that is actually about entertainment and takes on

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Speaker 1: all sides properly, in skewing all sides properly and making

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Speaker 1: the joke as opposed to engaging in the ideological trafficking.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's gonna go. It's too costly, are there? So?

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Speaker 1: Gail King was the Monday through Friday show? But are

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Speaker 1: those shows gonna go? And I put forth to you, no,

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Speaker 1: I think that there's a lot of ego and prestige wrapped.

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Speaker 2: Up in them.

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Speaker 1: It's like the sixty take sixty minutes. Would sixty minutes

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Speaker 1: go away? I don't think so. I think there's still

583
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Speaker 1: a great amount of Americans who rely on sixty minutes, who.

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Speaker 2: See a value in it.

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Speaker 1: And and I think that CBS, right, this is the nation.

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Speaker 1: This is the network that they called the Tiffany Network,

587
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: like this was, this is the Kreme de la creme.

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00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 1: This is started at all, if you will. I don't

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Speaker 1: think they would see themselves getting rid of of that program.

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Speaker 1: There's no need to. It still can generate news utilized

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Speaker 1: by the news department shared in that way. So no,

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Speaker 1: I don't think they get rid of Sunday shows either,

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Speaker 1: because news can be broken there and that's very valuable

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Speaker 1: for the product that that drives.

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Speaker 2: Are good I want would assume a good amount of revenue.

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Speaker 2: So they used to call CBS the Tiffany Network. Yes,

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00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 2: they're calling CBS News the Tiffany Network because they're looking

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Speaker 2: around in the newsroom and saying, I think we're alone

599
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 2: now there.

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Speaker 1: Wow, I thought it was going to be. And they

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Speaker 1: call ABC News that Debbie Gibson them. You could have

602
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Speaker 1: gotten either way with that joke.

603
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Speaker 2: And been alright with it.

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Speaker 1: But this the weirdest thing about this is that change

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Speaker 1: happens and we get shocked by it, like somehow these

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Speaker 1: people will be there forever.

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Speaker 2: What is forever? What? What makes anybody think that that's

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Speaker 2: going to be the case?

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Speaker 1: And the way The question before us is do we

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Speaker 1: get a better product? And the answer to that comes with, well,

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Speaker 1: I saw this news report and I believe it to

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Speaker 1: be true, as opposed to I saw this news report

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Speaker 1: and I.

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Speaker 2: Don't believe anything. And they tell me I don't think

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Speaker 2: we're ever going to get a better product ever?

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Speaker 1: Again?

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Speaker 2: Do you really? I do? Because I don't think the

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Speaker 2: American people want a better product. They say they want

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Speaker 2: a better product.

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Speaker 1: Everybody Drink Smoke Nation want it's a better product. But

621
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Speaker 1: here's the deal, Drink Smoked Nation a bunch of horrifying liars.

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Speaker 2: I don't pretend that I can read each Drink Smoke

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Speaker 2: Nation's minds like you can. I'm not pretending. But don't

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Speaker 2: you feel like when it comes to corporate media corporate news,

625
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Speaker 2: I said for years I thought that the American people

626
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Speaker 2: wanted a network that played it straight down the middle.

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00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,359
Speaker 2: Here's an anchor. You don't know what the anchor's politics are.

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Speaker 2: They will report the news and then they'll have a

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Speaker 2: segment where they'll have a conservative on and a liberal on,

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Speaker 2: and they'll talk about the story and then let the

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Speaker 2: audience decide. I feel like now we're too far gone,

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Speaker 2: and I feel like now we're to the point where

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Speaker 2: Americans want to just be in whatever political bubble that

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Speaker 2: they are in, and they only want to be told

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Speaker 2: that their side is winning and the other side is losing.

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Speaker 1: I it's an outrageously hard thing to disagree with what

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Speaker 1: we see every day.

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Speaker 2: It's a hard thing to disagree with.

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Speaker 1: I would I look at this CBS move and Barry

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Speaker 1: Weiss running things, and I wonder, I mean, this is

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Speaker 1: this Could this be seen as the last gasp?

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Speaker 2: If it can't be done when you've got the full

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Speaker 2: support of.

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Speaker 1: The new owner of sky Dance I forget his first name, Ellison,

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Speaker 1: the son of Larry.

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Speaker 2: Elison, the owner of Oracle.

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Speaker 1: If you've got all this and Barry Weiss doesn't report

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Speaker 1: to the president of CBS News, no no, no, she

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Speaker 1: reports to the boss, to the owner of the company.

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Speaker 1: If you can't make it happen with that, well then okay,

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Speaker 1: you're probably right, you can't make.

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Speaker 2: It happen at all.

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Speaker 1: But the argument that America doesn't want it, I would

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Speaker 1: say that it's because America doesn't know that it's.

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Speaker 2: Even possible, because it hasn't happened.

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Speaker 1: And what is more evil is that there have been

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Speaker 1: so many people in news who are telling us, oh, no, no,

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Speaker 1: where the real news people where the real journalists, And

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Speaker 1: they flat out lied, and they flat out manipulated and

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Speaker 1: manipulated they did these things.

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Speaker 2: So maybe just seeing it again will remind people of

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Speaker 2: what is possible. And nothing was ever perfect.

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Speaker 1: Cronkite wasn't perfect, but I would like to think that

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Speaker 1: this opportunity can create opportunity.

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Speaker 2: Cronkite would look perfect today compared to what we have.

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