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Speaker 2: Thursday Final four week.

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Speaker 3: It has arrived and hopefully the rain will stay away

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Speaker 3: for much of the day. We're supposed to have rain

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Speaker 3: off and on for the next several days here. But

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Speaker 3: you know how it goes, Mark, the sun's always going

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Speaker 3: to shine here on a big event week here in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 2: That's just how it works. This start works.

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Speaker 4: She had a real thing because during All Star weekend

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Speaker 4: a few years ago, it was miserable.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to play I'm trying to play Chamber of

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Speaker 2: Commerce here. James all right, helped me out a little bit.

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Speaker 2: I'm with you, I'm with you, all right.

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Speaker 3: So you've been sitting on this question for us, and

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Speaker 3: she got onto the tarmac and got back to Indianapolis.

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Speaker 4: Yes, or long, but you know, I try to thank

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Speaker 4: every now and then for the show, build.

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Speaker 2: It, for the drama, James, for the drama.

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Speaker 5: And I do think there's a bit of drama in this.

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Speaker 4: So we're sitting there in Phoenix talking to Chris Ballard

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Speaker 4: about the quarterback position and not just Daniel Jones, the

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Speaker 4: guys behind him, and he says, because I straight up ACKs, hey,

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Speaker 4: would you feel comfortable? I know it's early with Riley

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Speaker 4: Leonard starting week one? Is that something that you are

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Speaker 4: on board with? And he goes on the praise Riley

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Speaker 4: Leonard and he says, you know, hey, that doesn't mean

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Speaker 4: we can't bring somebody in. Okay, there's this other guy

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Speaker 4: in your roster still named Anthony Richardson Senior. What do

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Speaker 4: you mean bring somebody else in? So my question is

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Speaker 4: do you think there is any world where Anthony Richardson

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Speaker 4: is their third quarterback this up coming season? Because Chris

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Speaker 4: Ballor left that door open, and I'm just wondering if

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Speaker 4: it's him just being a good businessman to say that,

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Speaker 4: because in my mind, I just don't see that happening.

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Speaker 5: So please feel free to weigh in.

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Speaker 3: Well, first of all, they got to at least front

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Speaker 3: like we could keep Anthony Richardson. We like him. He's

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Speaker 3: a terrific young man. He's still got a great future.

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Speaker 3: You got to build him up if you're gonna put

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Speaker 3: him on on trade right, and he is his company.

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Speaker 6: Here's the way I look at it, Shane. Here's what

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Speaker 6: Shane Ssikn talks about Anthony Michison, Like I talk about peeps.

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Speaker 3: Right, He's not the one that has to deal with

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Speaker 3: the other general managers though, I get that. But my

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Speaker 3: point is it's clear to me that there was a

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Speaker 3: conversation at some point between the Colts and Anthony Richardson

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Speaker 3: probably gonna have the part ways. I don't see a

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Speaker 3: future for Anthony here with the Colts. We're gonna say

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Speaker 3: all the right things, We're gonna do all the right things.

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Speaker 3: He's a good young man. We'll try to take care

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Speaker 3: of him, go find a trade, and we'll see if

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Speaker 3: we can work something out. And the team is like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: we don't want to be in Indianapolis because there's no

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Speaker 3: path to being a true starting quarterback there. But publicly,

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Speaker 3: you've got to say all the right things and do

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Speaker 3: all the right things. But I feel like there's been

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Speaker 3: a conversation between both sides where it's kind.

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Speaker 2: Of understood that he's not gonna be here if.

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Speaker 5: There is no trade to market.

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Speaker 3: What happens, Jeff, what happens, you could probably just keep

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Speaker 3: him as an emergency quarterback for a third year.

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Speaker 2: If you had to, You could well.

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Speaker 5: What do you think, Vin, Because I'm serious about this.

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Speaker 4: I think that this is like something you can't just say,

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Speaker 4: oh well, I mean the difference in answers from Chris

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Speaker 4: Baller to sayings thiking, we're jarring.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't think Anthony Rigson would be a cult

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Speaker 6: come September. To answer your question, I guess in the

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Speaker 6: simplest way that I can. You know, there is part

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Speaker 7: Though.

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Speaker 6: You know, if we want to go back to the

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Speaker 6: start of the offseason, my thought was this team would

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Speaker 6: lose some pillar players, this team would lose Anthony Richardson,

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Speaker 6: to create more cap space. That's that was my original

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Speaker 6: that was my thought of no, no, no, they need

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Speaker 6: now it's April second. They don't need the cap space

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Speaker 6: like they could sit there with Anthony Richardson on their

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Speaker 6: roster and that's just fine. From an accounting standpoint, like

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Speaker 6: probably four million, five million in year one. I forget

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Speaker 6: exactly what it is, but you know they don't need that,

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Speaker 6: you know, chunk of chain set aside for three weeks

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Speaker 6: from tonight. So yeah, I don't Again, I think I

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Speaker 6: think Riley Leonard will be there starting quarterback this spring,

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Speaker 6: and honestly, James, I don't. I think Riley Leonard would

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Speaker 6: I don't think.

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Speaker 7: I know.

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Speaker 6: Chris bauerd whatever said we might go out and get

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Speaker 6: a veteran. That's fine, they might need another arm. But

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Speaker 6: I don't think that veteran all of a sudden above

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Speaker 6: Riley Leonard on the death chart.

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Speaker 8: No.

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Speaker 4: I got that impression in not so many words, that

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Speaker 4: they would move forward with Riley as their guy until

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Speaker 4: Daniel was back. Now, I would say one team that

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Speaker 4: the Rams. The Rams said Matthew Stafford and Stetson Bennett

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Speaker 4: and Sean McVay shout out to day Akis. My buddy

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Speaker 4: covers the Rams for us at the Athletic said on

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Speaker 4: the record that they're looking at Jimmy Garoppolo and Kirk

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Speaker 5: So that does not include they want a veteran.

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Speaker 4: They don't want Anthony Richardson, the guy who has the

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Speaker 4: staying healthy and on the field. So to wrap this

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Speaker 4: the other part of it for me, you all is

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Speaker 4: a world where you bring him back. And I get

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Speaker 4: what you're saying, Kevin, where hey, he's still kind of

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Speaker 9: That's what I said James about cutting him, because I

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Speaker 9: was like, you also don't want to be the team

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Speaker 9: that's just holding onto a dude where he's already said

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Speaker 9: he doesn't want to state with the team, And do

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Speaker 9: you really want Not that he's going to make a

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Speaker 9: when you could just let him go try to find

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Speaker 9: his next team out of the other thirty one teams available.

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Speaker 7: Well, I also don't think Richardson would want to be here.

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Speaker 6: I mean, again, the Colts offseason program starts twenty fifth.

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Speaker 6: Not that there are deadlines to this, James, but April

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Speaker 6: twentieth is the start of the offseason program. Yeah, and

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Speaker 6: that's pretty much league wide for teams that don't have

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Speaker 6: on April twentieth. Now, there might be some teams to say,

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Speaker 6: wait a minute, let us get through the draft. Right,

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Speaker 6: it's a week quarterback draft class, but whatever we think,

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Speaker 6: May first, because if you want to get a little

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Speaker 7: Those are like April twentieth to like May tenth.

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Speaker 6: That's kind of my next window, if you will with

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Speaker 6: Because if you want to go back to this, Anthony

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Speaker 6: Richardson is a requested a trade. You know, that's the

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Speaker 6: that's the base of a lot of this conversation. But

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Speaker 6: damn man, when you say, would you just release him?

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Speaker 6: How many fourth overall picks have been released?

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Speaker 4: I hear, But it's such a unique situation in men

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Speaker 4: I know even it's just jarring, is why.

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Speaker 7: Yes?

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Speaker 4: But even Stephen Holder asking Shane, have you all had

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Speaker 4: a conversation with him about staying away from the team

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Speaker 4: possibly until you talk about getting reps in and you know,

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Speaker 4: being around a team setting. If they don't trade him

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Speaker 5: Team regathers, do you want him out there? Daniel Jones

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Speaker 4: He's out there just watching Ry Leonard getting all the

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Speaker 4: said he wants out, Mark, would you allow him to

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Speaker 4: be on the team.

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Speaker 6: Mark Dyton is more optimistic on the Packers than Shane

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Speaker 6: Stiken is on Anthony Richardson.

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Speaker 4: That's a real thing. I mean, I have the audio.

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Speaker 4: We'll probably play it at some point throughout the show.

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Speaker 4: But the difference in answers just asking about Anthony, not

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Speaker 5: It is just like, hey, have you talked to him?

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Speaker 5: We'll see how things go.

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Speaker 3: So explain to me a little bit, James, how this works.

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Speaker 3: He's on right now, ten point eight million dollars is

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Speaker 3: what he's the cap hit is going.

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Speaker 2: To be for the Colts this year.

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Speaker 3: How does what's the dynamic for them paying him moving forward,

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Speaker 3: whether it's a trade or if they just release him

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Speaker 4: I believe if you trade him that cap hit whatever

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Speaker 4: he has gets split in half, so it's about five

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Speaker 5: And I think if you release him. You just have

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Speaker 5: to pay him, but you do so knowing that.

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Speaker 4: Okay, well we open up a roster spot to just

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Speaker 4: move on completely from the Anthony Richardson era. So again,

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Speaker 4: not a I know people are probably rolling their eyes.

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Speaker 4: this comes to April twentieth and then he's out there

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Speaker 4: with the team, or if he's not out there with

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Speaker 4: the team, we'll all right about it. But it won't

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Speaker 4: be something that, in my opinion, affects the overall trajectory

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Speaker 4: of the coult season. It's just something that is, to

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Speaker 4: Kevin's point, just a profound miss that has come to.

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Speaker 3: This and it doesn't feel Kevin like Chris Ballard's phone

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Speaker 3: is just ringing off the hook either.

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Speaker 6: No, and now you know, I would add, when you

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Speaker 6: I don't want to call it a significant restart a

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Speaker 6: free agency, but when you get through the draft, you

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Speaker 6: you do see some activity around the league. You know,

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Speaker 6: insert team here thought they were going to get a

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Speaker 3: All right, That's what's happening as far as the culture

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Speaker 10: The number one thing I'll take you from Coach Signetti,

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Speaker 6: Though if Vince McMahon and Joel Ostein had a child,

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Speaker 7: This is my picnic table shirt.

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Speaker 4: Oh no, I can't afford tickets and I don't have

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Speaker 7: Though, Well, they have the biggest fan contingent. And you

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Speaker 4: Probably it's only a two hour drive from campus. I mean,

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Speaker 7: The last name. But he's he's kind of the crazy story.

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Speaker 7: He knows what he's doing. Oh yeah, did.

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Speaker 3: I would imagine Michigan is going to travel pretty well

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Speaker 3: And also a reminder today, John will be out doing

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Speaker 2: You should go out and put your score up. See

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Speaker 3: You've been I would imagine you're getting your Papa shot

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Speaker 2: You've been to a bunch of those.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I had, Tommy, John, I've shot it so much.

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Speaker 6: So you've told me you have to have red volume shooting.

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Speaker 6: It's quantity over quality. You need to be able to

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Speaker 2: Why you got to go there? Mark? Why you gotta

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Speaker 9: That's Kevin Bowen right there.

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Speaker 6: I'm explaining what I think is the highest efficiency necessary

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Speaker 9: Yeah, no one knows balls like Kevin. Ball knowledge, Kevin.

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Speaker 2: You'll have a whole montage an hour from now.

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Speaker 1: Carson has a nice touch on his balls.

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Speaker 7: How did you find that so quickly? I need two

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Speaker 7: balls in each hand? Yeah, I need balls in hands.

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Speaker 1: Cancribe, Carson has a nice touch on his balls. Can

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Speaker 1: you describe what your.

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Speaker 7: Screen looks like?

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Speaker 2: Mark?

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Speaker 7: That you're able to somehow get that so quickly.

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Speaker 9: There's a reason I keep going to these hr meetings,

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Speaker 9: Like are those two? I mean have penciled in on

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Speaker 9: a weekly reminder.

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Speaker 7: How many of those audio cuts do you have readily.

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Speaker 9: Available, however many you need hundreds.

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Speaker 6: Pages the mic Well, just the emphasis and the voice

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Speaker 6: on that is just so.

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Speaker 1: Good looking hot in the back of the studio, right

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Speaker 1: in my.

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Speaker 9: Favorite because there was no reason he had to say that.

459
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Speaker 2: Mike Wells taking all kinds of strays this morning.

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Speaker 1: You and Mark are double teaming me.

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Speaker 2: Mark.

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Speaker 3: The number of folks in the in the six to

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Speaker 3: twenty one year old boy demo just increased for us.

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Speaker 9: So good spring, extra long spring break, two week spring

465
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Speaker 9: break stinks. So I might as well entertain the kids

466
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Speaker 9: if I can come back.

467
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Speaker 7: And just screaming six to seven into the microphone.

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Speaker 2: You know it all right.

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Speaker 3: We'll get you ready to go for the final four

470
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Speaker 3: coming up the next couple of days. And also more

471
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Speaker 3: on the NFL meetings and how they pertain to the cults,

472
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Speaker 3: a little bit more on those brand new kickoff rules,

473
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Speaker 3: which they almost confuse you more every year than they

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Speaker 3: clear anything up. So I've got questions, James. We'll do

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Speaker 3: that in a moment. Ninety three five one seven five.

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Speaker 6: Fan, I need two balls in each hand, Yeah, I

477
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Speaker 6: need balls in hands.

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Speaker 1: Carson has a nice touch on his balls.

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Speaker 2: Thursday morning, it is fine for a week.

480
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Speaker 3: I got games at Nickel Fieldhouse for the NIT semi

481
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Speaker 3: finals later on the night. We'll tell you more about

482
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Speaker 3: that in a moment here, And of course Saturday night,

483
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Speaker 3: the Final.

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Speaker 2: Four comes to Lucas Oil Stadium.

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Speaker 3: We've been talking about that all morning and all week long,

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Speaker 3: and we're going to continue talking about it. And a

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Speaker 3: great homecoming for Brayln Mullins after hitting that amazing shot

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Speaker 3: for Yukon to knockoff Duke. To get to this point

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Speaker 3: in time, it's just an incredible story and one that's

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Speaker 3: been captured perfectly by our next guest. Pat Forty writes

491
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Speaker 3: for SI dot com. Has been covering college basketball and

492
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Speaker 3: college sports for a long long time and knows the

493
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Speaker 3: ins and outs. But what a great article, and he

494
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Speaker 3: joins us now on the payless Lickers Hotline.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Pat, and welcome into the program. Always good

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Speaker 2: to have you here.

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Speaker 3: You read this article and it looks like one of

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Speaker 3: those It was just fun to write and be a

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Speaker 3: part of.

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Speaker 2: Correct Oh yeah, no.

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Speaker 11: You are exactly right. I mean, the natural building blocks

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Speaker 11: of a great story are there. And then I went

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Speaker 11: to Greenfield on Tuesday, and when I left with a

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Speaker 11: full notebook, I said, yeah, this won't be very hard

505
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Speaker 11: to write at all, So, you know, incredible, Like, this

506
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Speaker 11: is a kid who you know, in the modern era

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Speaker 11: of basketball, youth basketball, no transfers, no changes of AAU team,

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Speaker 11: no prep school, none of that business. Just from Greenfield, Indiana,

509
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Speaker 11: stayed there, grew up there, prospered. His parents have known

510
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Speaker 11: each other since second grade, went to the same high

511
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Speaker 11: school he did. It's just a very organic local success story.

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Speaker 5: Pat I thought.

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Speaker 4: The story was incredible, and as someone who lives in

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Speaker 4: Indianapolis and actually went to a couple of Braylen's high

515
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Speaker 4: school games last year, boy, I'm so glad I did,

516
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Speaker 4: because it's a lot cheaper last year than this year

517
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Speaker 4: for the final four. But I can tell you he

518
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Speaker 4: was shooting like that, you know, at that level for sure,

519
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Speaker 4: when you saw that moment happen, What was your reaction

520
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Speaker 4: just to the overall sequence, because yeah, you capture the moment,

521
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Speaker 4: you captured the journey to get to that moment. But boy,

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Speaker 4: that has to be one of the shots that just

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Speaker 4: lives in lore.

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Speaker 2: Forever, right, Oh for sure.

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Speaker 11: And it's way up there, I think in March Madness history.

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Speaker 11: I wrote about that on Monday and I didn't realize

527
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Speaker 11: exactly what I was getting into when I tried to

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Speaker 11: come up with like the original plan was the ten

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Speaker 11: most shocking basically shots in NCAA tournament history, and I

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Speaker 11: ended up looking at thirty and I ended up forgetting

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Speaker 11: several others could have been thirty five, and so there

532
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Speaker 11: have been a lot of them, but this is still

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Speaker 11: among the very very few I think that are the

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Speaker 11: most amazing, jaw dropping. I mean, I was watching it

535
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Speaker 11: at home. I'd just gotten back from San Jose, I

536
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Speaker 11: was covering the games out there, and you know, it

537
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Speaker 11: was classic, like everybody else, just screaming with my hands

538
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Speaker 11: on my head because I couldn't believe it, and it

539
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Speaker 11: was one of those where, yeah, like the scenario was

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Speaker 11: just so unusual because first of all, the comeback was crazy,

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Speaker 11: but that last play was just this chaos sequence that

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Speaker 11: just suddenly worked out perfectly for Yukon. You know, they

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Speaker 11: get the deflection, team makes the past, Caravan has the

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Speaker 11: sense to pass it back to him and then all

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Speaker 11: he's got to do is rise and fire from thirty

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Speaker 11: five feet and make it and become a legend.

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Speaker 6: Easy peasy, the Great pat forty with us here on

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Speaker 6: the Payless Leaguers Hotline. I'll echo just excellent, excellent piece,

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Speaker 6: the anecdotes of you know, mom's uncles, the mayor, dad's

550
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Speaker 6: cousins running for sheriff. I think it is it has

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Speaker 6: such a in forty nine states, it's just basketball, but

552
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Speaker 6: this is Indiana field to it, you know.

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Speaker 7: Kind of shifting gears.

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Speaker 6: But I guess keeping a little local, Pat, I am

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Speaker 6: willing to guess you've covered Have you covered every Final

556
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Speaker 6: four that's been here in Indie?

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Speaker 2: Did you?

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Speaker 7: Did you go all the way back to ninety one?

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Speaker 11: And eighty ninety one was the first one I covered,

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Speaker 11: So the first final four, So I've covered all of them,

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Speaker 11: every final four since then, including of obviously all of

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Speaker 11: them in Indy.

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Speaker 6: Love it is the final four side okay, So from

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Speaker 6: Jalen Suggs a shot to Kentucky's undefeeding gets upset in fifteen,

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Speaker 6: George Mason, Butler's here against Duke Arizona beat three one

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Speaker 6: seeds in ninety seven to win it all. Obviously ninety

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Speaker 6: one with UNLV and Duke. Do you have a favorite

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Speaker 6: Indie Final four memory? Because I think Saturday and Monday

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Speaker 6: are shaping up to add to that lore.

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Speaker 11: I think they are shaping up to be fantastic as

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Speaker 11: far as a favorite one. You know, just the Butler story,

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Speaker 11: Butler hometown story, playing in the final four, so you know,

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Speaker 11: so improbably for them to even be in the Final

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Speaker 11: four and then for it to be in Indy. And

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Speaker 11: you know, I wrote about this a couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 11: I still remember the scene of you know, Brad Stevens

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Speaker 11: and his staff and his kids were little, and like

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Speaker 11: they have the open practice on Friday, which we'll have tomorrow,

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Speaker 11: and like the moms have the kids all sitting like

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Speaker 11: on the edge of the court, eating happy meals and

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Speaker 11: like playing and running around. It's like this is too

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Speaker 11: wholesome for college basketball. But it was just this great

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Speaker 11: scene and great thing and you know, the whole just

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Speaker 11: the Butler story of them going on, you know, allegedly

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Speaker 11: going to class on the Monday of the championship game.

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Speaker 11: They get them on the bus and driving down to

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Speaker 11: the stadium. It was that was a great one. They've

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Speaker 11: been a lot of great ones in Indi, but that

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Speaker 11: was the one that I guess it sticks out.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we need bag men on the you know, courtside seats.

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Speaker 6: We don't need Happy Meal toys hitting Gordon Hayward in

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Speaker 6: the ankle.

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Speaker 3: That's just usually courtside of these Sure, what do you

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Speaker 3: look most forward to when you come to Indianapolis? What

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Speaker 3: makes this a great place for not just the Final Four,

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Speaker 3: but a National Championship game or a super Bowl or

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Speaker 3: an NBA also whatever it is. As a as somebody

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Speaker 3: who travels to a lot of these things, what do

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Speaker 3: you look forward to most about Indy?

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Speaker 11: Or Olympic swim trials which was awesome, amazing, So the

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Speaker 11: best thing? Look, I mean, Indy's just a great, big

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Speaker 11: events city because it's so setrol, it's so walkable. It's

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Speaker 11: just easy to get around, and there's you know, a

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Speaker 11: million places to eat, there's good places to stay. The

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Speaker 11: venues are phenomenal. You know, Lucas Oil is a great,

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Speaker 11: great stadium in my opinion, h Banker's Life Field House.

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Speaker 11: I'm sorry, I don't even know what it's called right now,

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Speaker 11: but but the basket the pacers arena is great. So

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Speaker 11: you know, from that standpoint, Hey, I live in Louisville.

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Speaker 11: I can drive. That's also in fact, that's what I'm

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Speaker 11: doing right now. I am driving to Indianapolis. You know,

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Speaker 11: I will definitely get either a Saint Elmo or Harry

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Speaker 11: and Izy's meal in while I'm up there tonight. I

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Speaker 11: think it's Harry and is he so uh. You know,

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Speaker 11: there's just a lot of a lot of easy fun

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Speaker 11: to be had in India.

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Speaker 4: I think, pat When you look at just the Final

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Speaker 4: four in general, the teams that are there, what stands

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Speaker 4: out to you about either MATCHO. I'm an Illinois grad

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Speaker 4: and I'm pretty happy to see them back in the

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Speaker 4: Final four for the first time in a long time.

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Speaker 4: But I can't sit up here and so I feel like,

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Speaker 4: you know, overly confident because that Yukon team is great.

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Speaker 4: On the other side, you got two number one seeds.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, I think the games are gonna be great.

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Speaker 11: I think Arizona Michigan is kind of a game I've

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Speaker 11: been looking forward to seeing since December. I think I

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Speaker 11: actually tweeted like December, I don't know, thirteenth or something

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Speaker 11: that that, even though it was early. If you give

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Speaker 11: me Arizona and Michigan against the field, I would probably

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Speaker 11: take it, and one of them is going to play

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Speaker 11: in the title game. I think they've both just been

633
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Speaker 11: phenomenal but still the other two teams, I mean, Yukon,

634
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Speaker 11: you know, looked a little bit in disarray at the

635
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Speaker 11: end of the regular season and then just got run

636
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Speaker 11: off the court in the Big East Championship game, but

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Speaker 11: clearly they had the goods all along. And then Illinois's

638
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Speaker 11: had a phenomenal season, you know, a great job by

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Speaker 11: Brad Underwood and his staff of recruiting and then putting

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Speaker 11: the pieces together and watching the team develop. Not just

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Speaker 11: the the European guys which have made a monster impact,

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Speaker 11: but obviously Keaton Woggler as well, was a freshman in

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Speaker 11: this great freshman class. Nobody was talking about him, and

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Speaker 11: he's one of the best. And so you know, there's

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Speaker 11: a lot of really good players. I think there's very

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Speaker 11: good coaches. Obviously, Dan Hurley's won two titles. The other

647
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Speaker 11: three have not won one at all. A bit of

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Speaker 11: a homecoming as well for Dusty May who's from Green County, Indiana.

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Speaker 11: So you know, there's a lot of angles, a lot

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Speaker 11: of storylines. I do feel like the winner of Arizona

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Speaker 11: Michigan is the team to beat, but I've seen that

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Speaker 11: team get beaten before. You know, that team that wins

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Speaker 11: the monster semifinal. Maybe is out of gas for the final.

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Speaker 6: Last I looked both Big ten teams one and a

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Speaker 6: half point favorites Illinois over Yukon, Michigan, Arizona, So two

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Speaker 6: very small spreads for Saturday.

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Speaker 7: Again the legend Pat forty.

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Speaker 6: He's driving up right now from Louisville to cover yet

659
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Speaker 6: another final four in Indie. Patt, I actually want to

660
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Speaker 6: go back something you brought up a few minutes ago.

661
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Speaker 6: I don't know how much our audience realizes, but you

662
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Speaker 6: are the parent of some very elite swimmers. So the

663
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Speaker 6: Swim Trials and Indie met a lot to you. We

664
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Speaker 6: had as Indiana Sports Corp Sarah Mayron. Earlier in the weeks,

665
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Speaker 6: she mentioned that the Swim Trials are coming back here

666
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Speaker 6: in twenty eight.

667
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Speaker 7: I want to ask it more from.

668
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Speaker 6: A logistical swim parent question, Like the spectacle of watching

669
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Speaker 6: whatever swimming happened in the NFL stadium kind of speaks

670
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Speaker 6: for itself, but you know, like from a college basketball

671
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Speaker 6: and an aircraft carrier type of feel, what was it

672
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Speaker 6: like logistically like for your kids? You know, like did

673
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Speaker 6: it make sense, did it work? Or was it just

674
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Speaker 6: more a cool spectacle?

675
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Speaker 11: Yeah? No, I mean I thought it worked for the

676
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Speaker 11: athletes quite well. The one thing that I would I

677
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Speaker 11: would change, and I probably at least will address this

678
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Speaker 11: somewhat for twenty eight is the spectators were a little

679
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Speaker 11: too far away from the pool. You know, there was

680
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Speaker 11: too much space between the stands and the actual the pool,

681
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Speaker 11: So it was a little bit you know, difficult to

682
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Speaker 11: see it the way you're used to seeing it. But

683
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Speaker 11: again that's I think that's very fixable. But the scale

684
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Speaker 11: and everything was incredible. I think the swimmers were in

685
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 11: extremely excited about it and saying, you know, this is

686
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 11: this is our last frontier, this is our last arrival.

687
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 11: You know, we've never done anything like this. It was

688
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 11: huge when they had it in Omaha in a fifteen

689
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 11: thousand seat basketball arena, and that was like, Wow, swimming's

690
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 11: gone big time. And then this obviously takes that up

691
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 11: to another level by a long shot. And I thought,

692
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Speaker 11: you know, that was another thing Indy. Indy showed up.

693
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Speaker 11: I mean, there were big crowds. We had more than

694
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Speaker 11: twenty thousand people in the arena or in the stadium

695
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Speaker 11: at least once, if not twice. You know, the biggest

696
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Speaker 11: crowds certainly in American history to watch swimming, maybe world history,

697
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Speaker 11: and so you know, I just think that the swimmers

698
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 11: want that, they want that feel of something that big

699
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Speaker 11: and when you get in the water, you know, it's

700
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Speaker 11: the old thing with Hoosiers where Norman Dale has the

701
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 11: measure basket. Well, still a fifty pool. Just get in

702
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Speaker 11: the swim. Yeah.

703
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Speaker 3: I like to remind people that Gretchen Wall set a

704
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Speaker 3: world record one of the nights when we were there.

705
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Speaker 3: So the pool was not a problem at all.

706
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Speaker 2: It was nice, tough, No, pool was great. Yeah.

707
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Speaker 3: Hey, last thing before I let you go too, because

708
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Speaker 3: I know you cover college football extensively as well. I've

709
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 3: been making a big deal about the fact that you know,

710
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 3: at the beginning of this week, not only did they

711
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 3: play a big thing about Purdue. I guess it was

712
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 3: last maybe last Friday, Purdue getting ready for the Final Four,

713
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 3: and Sports Center led with that. But then about halfway

714
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 3: through Sports Center they did one story on college football

715
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 3: and it was about Indiana starting spring football and it

716
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 3: went for like a minute and ten seconds. Now, how

717
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Speaker 3: much longer can we expect Indiana to be the epicenter

718
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Speaker 3: of college football?

719
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Speaker 2: Can this continue.

720
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Speaker 11: Until they lose Man, until they lose sixteen and oh

721
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 11: speaks volumes and it remains an interesting story. First of all,

722
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 11: I mean it was just fascinating the last two years

723
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 11: watching them happen and defying you know, any precedent and

724
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 11: common sense and belief. But Signetti remains fascinating, even though

725
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 11: he's almost not fascinating, if that makes sense.

726
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Speaker 2: You know, like.

727
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Speaker 11: He's he is so brass tax that I think people

728
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 11: are just like kind of drawn to him and his

729
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 11: personality and watching his you know, his responses to things.

730
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 11: You know, he had the Gold Cleats thing with Nick

731
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 11: marsh that got people's attention. So no, I think there's

732
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Speaker 11: gonna be immense curiosity. Can this be sustained? I think

733
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Speaker 11: they're still gonna be really good, you know sixteen No,

734
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 11: probably not, but really good. I think they made a

735
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Speaker 11: very good portal pickup at quarterback and some other very

736
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Speaker 11: good pickups as well.

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Speaker 2: You know.

738
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Speaker 11: The big question is the just kind of the secret

739
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Speaker 11: sauce of that that chemistry and leadership that they had

740
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Speaker 11: with the James Madison guys and some of the holdovers

741
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Speaker 11: from pre Signetti at iun can that be sustained or

742
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 11: did you lose something there that was pretty magical. I

743
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 11: am bullish on the Hoosiers going forward.

744
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Speaker 3: We're bullish on Pat forty a SI dot com. Thanks

745
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 3: for the time this morning, Pat. We look forward to

746
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 3: seeing you sometime this weekend and always great to have

747
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 3: you on the show.

748
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 7: Thank you, great piece.

749
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Speaker 11: Pat, my pleasure. Guys, thank you.

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Speaker 2: Good morning.

751
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 3: Get ready for the world of basketball once again to

752
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:22,720
Speaker 3: descend on Indiana.

753
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 2: It is kind of the center of the basketball world.

754
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:28,320
Speaker 3: But for another example of that, our next guest, Jason Gardner,

755
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 3: from the Arizona coaching staff and of course legend here

756
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 3: in Indiana, also has a son performing at a high

757
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 3: high level of our fishers, joins us now on the

758
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Speaker 3: Payless Liquors Hotline. Good morning, Jason, welcome home. What's it

759
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:43,320
Speaker 3: like to be back in the city again.

760
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Speaker 12: Well, honestly, I had a piece for myself because it's

761
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,399
Speaker 12: six point thirty and two side and I'm like, am

762
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 12: I really up?

763
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Speaker 2: Well, we're glad, go ahead.

764
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Speaker 3: I just say we're glad that you're here, Glad to

765
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Speaker 3: have you back, and want to get your perspective on

766
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 3: how Arizona's made it here.

767
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,839
Speaker 12: No, I mean, honestly, it's uh, it's been it's been

768
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 12: an awesome year. You know, we have you know, we're

769
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Speaker 12: led by three seniors who who's been unbelievable all year long,

770
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 12: and Jade Bradley and Toby Walker and Delhi. But also

771
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,760
Speaker 12: and so you know, our seniors has been the leadership

772
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 12: that we've had has been great, just from you know,

773
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 12: the timeouts to halftime's speeches too. You know there's times

774
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 12: where Tommy kind of let the seniors take over after

775
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 12: he gives his speech at halftime, and so those guys

776
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 12: just done an unbelievable job and is leading his team.

777
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:41,839
Speaker 6: Yeah, and that's a voice of Jason Gardner and coach,

778
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 6: we appreciate your time here. Did you have to try

779
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Speaker 6: and dial up any you know, Hinkle video of the

780
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 6: shot against booton South to try to let your players know,

781
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,240
Speaker 6: you know, there were there were some magical march moments

782
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Speaker 6: that I created back in the day.

783
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Speaker 13: You know, the the VHS is they can't watch anymore,

784
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,399
Speaker 13: so you know, so they did Actually, what was funny,

785
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 13: they did actually play the old one game the other

786
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,399
Speaker 13: day on TV so on YouTube, I.

787
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Speaker 12: Mean, and so a couple of guys did see some

788
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 12: couple of clips of that, so that.

789
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 11: That's pretty cool.

790
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 12: Even though we didn't get to win, but it was

791
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 12: kind of cool for the guys to kind of watch

792
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 12: that game, you know, I.

793
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Speaker 7: Was thinking about this on the drive in.

794
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,479
Speaker 6: Obviously the final four memories in this city are pretty rich,

795
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 6: and of course Arizona comes here. I think they beat

796
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 6: three one seeds in that ninety seven final four. You

797
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 6: obviously were still at North Central, Like what did that

798
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,439
Speaker 6: do for your intrigue with Arizona, your recruitment at all.

799
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 6: I kind of forget where that kind of fell in

800
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 6: the timeline of everything for you.

801
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 12: Well, the crazy thing is this, they actually practiced it

802
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 12: nor Central and how I even got so that was

803
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 12: actually cool to kind of, you know, sneaky and kind

804
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 12: of watch from up top and kind of see what

805
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,320
Speaker 12: different things they were doing at the time. Off So

806
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 12: they had three high level guards and Mike Bibbie and

807
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 12: Mike Akerson, Miles Simon and and Osse Jayson Terry has

808
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 12: come up the bach, so they had four NBA guys.

809
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:07,720
Speaker 12: So it would just awesome kind to see that practice,

810
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,359
Speaker 12: see the style of play. But really what even got

811
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,879
Speaker 12: me going with Arizona was a Sega Genesis game and

812
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,919
Speaker 12: the game was called Coach K and my brother would

813
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 12: always play with David Stotomark. So that's how it.

814
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 2: Really all started. That's that's how every great story starts.

815
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 3: Something like that right there, right, Uh, we talk about

816
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 3: coming home and and you know Lucas Oil and hosting

817
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 3: and Final four. I think the last time I saw

818
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 3: you was in the tunnel for the state championship game

819
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 3: a year ago.

820
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 2: How do you keep up with Jason Jr.

821
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 3: And what's going on being in Arizona all the time,

822
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 3: because I know you keep up pretty close with what's

823
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:42,439
Speaker 3: happening there.

824
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 12: Well, I mean, I think obviously with the FaceTime stuff,

825
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 12: you know, obviously you know the social media different things

826
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 12: like that. And then uh, Tommy gives me the flexibility

827
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 12: as well to uh, you know, just make sure I

828
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 12: give him the schedule. So obviously the games come out

829
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 12: kind of let me know what games I can make,

830
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,800
Speaker 12: and uh, it's a lot of flying in day of

831
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 12: and find out morning the next morning to catch our game.

832
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 12: So it's actually been pretty cool he's given the.

833
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 7: Flexibility for that.

834
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 4: So the hair that your son has was was that

835
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 4: inherited from you? I'm looking at some old pictures and

836
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 4: when did that happen or did you have just get

837
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 4: on board.

838
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 7: I don't know.

839
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 12: I'm like, hey man, when are you gonna cut this?

840
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 5: No man again?

841
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 7: Cut in.

842
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 5: It's like Samson mood that gives them powers.

843
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 4: But Jason, I've had a great time watching your son

844
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 4: in that Ficial's program the last couple of years. Obviously

845
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 4: he's a great player. But to go back to you

846
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:35,720
Speaker 4: in this Arizona team, one unique thing about your squad

847
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 4: is that you don't take a ton of threes. So

848
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,359
Speaker 4: for those who aren't familiar with your style of play,

849
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 4: why do you think you all have been able to

850
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 4: maybe I don't know, survive like this different era of

851
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 4: how the game is played, but create your own identity

852
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 4: and stick to it to a point where you're one

853
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 4: of the top four teams left.

854
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 12: You know, honestly, it's a that's an ongoing laughing story

855
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 12: in the locker room. I mean, you come to our

856
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 12: practice and you would think total opposite. So I mean,

857
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 12: I do know that you know, one of our biggest

858
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 12: deals was obviously attack the paint, and attack the paint.

859
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 12: Whether you know we're throwing the ball inside, we're trying

860
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 12: to put foul pressure on you, We're trying to get

861
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 12: down heel I just think that's something that we do

862
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 12: talk about quite a bit. And I don't know, just

863
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 12: I don't know what happens when we get gangs. It's like,

864
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,240
Speaker 12: you know, we're like, hey, you know, coach tells them fellas,

865
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 12: we need to take more threes and so you know,

866
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 12: I don't know, if you see this weekend, next thing,

867
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 12: oh we end up taking twenty three. So I don't

868
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 12: know what the problem is. But you watch our practice,

869
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:30,760
Speaker 12: you would think different.

870
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 6: That's the voice of Jason Gardner. Obviously in Indiana Lore

871
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 6: and certainly Arizona Law is one of the more decorated

872
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 6: players ever put on a uniform for them. You're the

873
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 6: director of player relations for Tommy Lloyd. How would you

874
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 6: explain your role in regards to that time.

875
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 12: You know, it's not one thing. I mean, it's a

876
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 12: combination of a lot of different deals him pand on

877
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 12: a lot of different things off the court, you know, recruiting,

878
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 12: dealing with thatdemics, dealing with families. So really kind of

879
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 12: any issue that kind of comes up I deal with obviously,

880
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 12: you know, picking the guard's brains, you know, on and

881
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 12: off the court during practice or whatnot. So it's just

882
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 12: a combination of a lot of different jobs.

883
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 6: As you look kind of five ten years down the road,

884
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 6: do you want to get back into kind of the

885
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 6: full time coaching role, maybe being a head coach again.

886
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Speaker 2: I think so.

887
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Speaker 12: I mean, I think being here with Tommy and actually

888
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 12: being here for five years and really learning and kind

889
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 12: of seeing, you know, the culture ability does. Everybody talks

890
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 12: a lot about his offensive skills but he's actually a

891
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 12: really defensive minded coach as well, so I think he's like,

892
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 12: you know, he has both of us. So I think

893
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,840
Speaker 12: seeing him, watching him being around this program, Yes, I

894
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 12: think at some point I definitely want to get back

895
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,399
Speaker 12: on the court. And then obviously being a head coach

896
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 12: when I was younger, I definitely would like to have

897
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 12: that opportunity again.

898
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Speaker 4: One more Jason, when it comes to your journey, obviously

899
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 4: you played the game at a high level and played

900
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 4: it for a long time. Was it difficult to just

901
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 4: into the coaching realm or did you always know that

902
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:06,879
Speaker 4: was the route you wanted to take.

903
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 2: No.

904
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Speaker 12: I think I think ever since I've been a kid,

905
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 12: I always wanted to coach, just didn't really know when

906
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 12: it was gonna happen. But I think it's just kind

907
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 12: of being around the game, helping younger guys, you know,

908
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:22,359
Speaker 12: with on and off the course situations. So I think

909
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 12: this is the journey of just what I'm saying, being

910
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 12: around the game, helping the youth and just kind of

911
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 12: just going places that you never thought you'd be able

912
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:33,920
Speaker 12: to go. And so I think it was it was

913
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 12: always a dream of mine.

914
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Speaker 1: To be a coach.

915
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 2: All right. So last question. You're the guy, You're the

916
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 2: home guy.

917
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Speaker 3: When you get to town and the coaching staff and

918
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 3: Tommy Lloyd and these guys are looking at you for

919
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 3: restaurant recommendations.

920
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 2: Where are you taking them?

921
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 3: Uh?

922
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 12: Well, you know Almos, harry Issy's Barbecue Heaven, White Castle,

923
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 12: Steak and Shake.

924
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: There we go.

925
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 7: Now you're speaking my language.

926
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,800
Speaker 2: Barbeque Heaven. Tell me more about that one.

927
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 12: Actually, you know, Ronald Jones was actually a neighbor of

928
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:07,839
Speaker 12: mine growing up as a kids, so he lived two

929
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 12: houses down, so I got a real good relationship with him.

930
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 12: So every time come in town, that's definitely a place

931
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Speaker 12: that I.

932
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 2: Have to stop by. That might be number one on

933
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:17,839
Speaker 2: that list you gave me. And I'm a big hairy

934
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 2: and is he guy? So hey, have fun this weekend.

935
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 3: Enjoy it, and we look forward to talking to you

936
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 3: and watching your son to continue to develop as well.

937
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 2: Man, it's a lot of fun to talk to you well.

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Speaker 12: I appreciate it. Thank you for having me