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Speaker 2: You're listening to Kendel and Casey. It is ninety three WIBC.

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Speaker 3: Who is in charge of what in the state?

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Speaker 2: Good question.

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Speaker 1: We need the bobs from office space tell me what

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah. The governor is going to be the featured

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Speaker 1: Other than that.

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Speaker 1: we got data centers out the wazu looking to buy that.

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Speaker 1: is the Indiana ag policy?

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Speaker 2: Keep on making money be coven point four billion in exports.

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Speaker 1: So this is I'm not trying to be facetious when

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Speaker 3: Again.

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Speaker 1: I have not said a word to Micah since that

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Speaker 1: to how'd that go?

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Speaker 2: It was fine?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we told him, he said, when you do something

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Speaker 2: He's got a goal to visit all the counties for

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Speaker 3: And why doesn't Braun just grow a parent?

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Speaker 1: Say, this guy was such an incompetent buffoon, we had

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Speaker 2: You're asking the guy who stood in front of a

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Speaker 3: I just want to know if Braun.

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Speaker 2: Is perilous over there.

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Speaker 3: That's fine.

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Speaker 1: If Braun is in charge of agriculture now okay. If

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Speaker 2: Well, Braun reaffirmed his commitment to supporting who's your farmers

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Speaker 3: You mean the same guy who's now on the IEDC board.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that guy.

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Speaker 3: How is that not.

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Speaker 1: A direct conflict that the guys Well, I mean, is

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Speaker 3: In this state?

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Speaker 2: Don Lamb is the director of the Indiana State Department

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Speaker 1: So his job is to protect the farmers and fight

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Speaker 3: These seem to be in conflict.

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Speaker 1: And why the lieutenant governor has to have an opinion

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Speaker 3: Whatever it is is great? Why doesn't he say it?

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Speaker 1: Favor of being usurped by the governor? Is he in

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Speaker 1: Where who's doing what right? That's the most basic part

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Speaker 3: Great he let us know.

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Speaker 2: It seems that Braun is putting himself in charge of

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Speaker 2: AG now. Susan Stroud is going to be there. Who

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Speaker 2: she's a market analyst and founder of No bull and

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Speaker 2: she's what no ball ball bull correct.

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Speaker 1: Well, she's in the wrong place. No Bullet anything to

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Speaker 2: She is going to offer insights on the farm economy,

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Speaker 2: focusing on policy changes in tariffs at this event July thirtieth,

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine, like, as you're driving down the road

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Speaker 3: Why doesn't Braun just come out and say it.

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Speaker 1: The state would have so much more confidence and clarity

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Speaker 2: Maybe maybe it's a conflict, a scheduling conflict, like candy stores.

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Speaker 2: The Lieutenant governor was not available on July thirty. If

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Speaker 2: he had a previous engagement.

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Speaker 3: Drum store drums. We've heard that store.

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Speaker 2: Or from our state elected officials.

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Speaker 1: Jumping out of airplanes, maybe another airplane to jump out

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Speaker 2: Program's going to end at twelve thirty. It'll be followed

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Speaker 3: Maybe there was another seminar in Washington, d C. I

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Speaker 1: I just am I a bad guy for just saying

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Speaker 1: I just want to know whatever the structure is of

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Speaker 2: They're not following their own organizational I.

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Speaker 1: Mean mostly for Kevin's sake, because Kevin had mentioned over

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Speaker 3: Tomatoes, potatoes, all that. All right.

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Speaker 1: One guy who always speaks very clearly is the oil guy,

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Speaker 1: Bill Herrick. We have not had Bill on in quite

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Speaker 2: And there are oil reserves.

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Speaker 1: We got the fighting in the ran and so we said,

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Speaker 1: will be with us next to give us everything you

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Speaker 3: The price of gas.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to Kennel and Casey. It is ninety three WIBC.

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Speaker 3: Casey, it's been a while since we've checked in on

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what, I was just thinking about the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, lucky for us when it comes to oil, when

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Speaker 3: With what's going on with your pocketbook. We got a guy.

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Speaker 2: We got a guy.

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Speaker 1: His name is Bill Herrick. We have dubbed him the

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Speaker 7: Hello, good morning guys. How you do all right?

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Speaker 1: So you've got a whole bunch of good info for us.

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Speaker 1: But I want to start with because you run a

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Speaker 1: company called Midwest Energy Partners. Yes, and you get oil

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Speaker 1: you you drive an automobile plated in gold. You live

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Speaker 1: beyond your wildest dreams. Right, but what has been going

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Speaker 1: on with Let's just start with oil since Trump took office?

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Speaker 7: Okay, great question. Well, you know when when he got

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Speaker 3: Is that good? Is that bad?

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Speaker 7: That was good? Actually for me, gasoline at the time

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Speaker 1: Okay, I hate this because you seem like such a

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Speaker 1: So I really need you to fail, right, because you

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Speaker 7: Yeah. Well, so here's here, Mike. Here's the couple of

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Speaker 7: things I always do. I do a lot of research

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Speaker 7: But you know, one thing I found out was that

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Speaker 7: to drill new wells.

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Speaker 2: And Teacher's just not going to get a return on

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Speaker 2: We're not.

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Speaker 7: Going to get the return we need for our investors.

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Speaker 7: They indivent the other independents aren't going to get the

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Speaker 7: return they need to get to pay their costs. And

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Speaker 7: you know, like everything else, guys, you know, our costs

448
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Speaker 7: have gone up through the roof, so you know, to

449
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Speaker 7: drill well today is probably twenty five percent more expensive

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Speaker 7: than it was years ago.

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Speaker 3: So many questions about that.

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Speaker 1: So Bill Harrick is our guest, he's our oil guy,

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Speaker 1: Midwest Energy Partners, that's his company. If he's doing well,

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Speaker 1: you're doing bad. That's all we like to say. No,

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Speaker 1: we love Billy, He's totally honest about that. Why is

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Speaker 1: the cost of drilling oil gone up. Doesn't the thing

457
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Speaker 1: just still go in the ground? What is more expensive

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Speaker 1: about doing it now?

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Speaker 7: Well, it's all the parts, right, So it's labor, steel

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Speaker 7: for the for the tube that goes into the ground,

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Speaker 7: for the for the after going on the Well, it's

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Speaker 7: it's all all the mechanical parts, all the liquids, all

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Speaker 7: the chemicals. Everything's up twenty percent.

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Speaker 2: So what you're saying is that the use worldwide has

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Speaker 2: gone up about twenty five percent and the cost to

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Speaker 2: get it has gone up twenty five percent.

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Speaker 7: Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, So there was a bunch of changes made

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Speaker 1: under Biden. They did the Green Dreams scam, areno stuff,

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Speaker 1: and then Trump came in, is like I'm getting rid

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Speaker 1: of all of it. But then a bunch of Republicans

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Speaker 1: got sideways and we're like, well, our state is making

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Speaker 1: a bunch of money off the green scam. What happened

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Speaker 1: with the green dream as a part of the big

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Speaker 1: bull cra bill? And how's that go affect what I

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Speaker 1: got paid for?

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Speaker 3: Stuff?

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Speaker 6: All?

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Speaker 7: Right? Well, I was I wanted to take it one

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Speaker 7: more and one more thing real quickly about about oil

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Speaker 7: if I could.

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Speaker 3: It's very good. You're a professional answer the question you

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Speaker 3: want to answer.

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Speaker 7: So my concern is that we're not. Yeah, I know,

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Speaker 7: well we're not. We're not drilling any new wells. So

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Speaker 7: that means our production is going to start dropping. And

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Speaker 7: as supply drops and the demand stays strong, prices are

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Speaker 7: going to start increasing. So I do think we're going

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Speaker 7: to see higher oil and gas prices next year. Maybe

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Speaker 7: nothing crazy, but three fifty three seventy five a gallon

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Speaker 7: or gasoline is probably going to be the norm because

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Speaker 7: unless we listenings turn around, and we aren't, we don't

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Speaker 7: start drilling some new wells. As I mentioned before in

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Speaker 7: the show, every every well that's ever been drilled declines

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Speaker 7: about five percent a year. So just to make up

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Speaker 7: for that decline, you've got to be drilling a number

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Speaker 7: of new wells, which we're not.

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Speaker 1: So okay, So tell me about the green stuff. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: sounds like a rip off. Well, the green stuff.

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Speaker 7: You know, we've the you know in your favorite your

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Speaker 7: favorite new bill that we just passed, what is the

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Speaker 7: name of it again, the big bull crap, big bull crab.

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Speaker 7: But yeah, there I go. Uh, there were some good

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Speaker 7: things in there that I think, uh affect the green energy.

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Speaker 7: Uh and and basically the undid the Inflation Reduction Act

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Speaker 7: that Biden did. So, for example, the maximum tax credit

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Speaker 7: of seventy five hundred dollars for buy an electric car

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Speaker 7: ends on September thirtieth.

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Speaker 3: So better get that pass.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, better go on and buy one if you if

511
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Speaker 7: you're thinking about buying one, because it'll go away. A

512
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Speaker 7: lot of the energy credits for your house are going

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Speaker 7: to go away at the end of the year. So

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Speaker 7: a lot of times, you know, you put new windows in,

515
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Speaker 7: you put new new roofing on, whatever, a lot of

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Speaker 7: those credits are going to go away. The wind and

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Speaker 7: solar product projects are going to have to work on

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Speaker 7: a positive business model. I mean, I mean they're gonna

519
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Speaker 7: have to cash flow on their own as opposed to

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Speaker 7: getting these huge tax subsidies, you know, and and and

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Speaker 7: loan guarantees and all that sort of stuff.

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Speaker 3: Work on the own.

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Speaker 7: That's exactly right. They should be and they should have

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Speaker 7: been doing that all along. But I'm fortunately that's not

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Speaker 7: what's happening.

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Speaker 1: So you can say it louder. Why can't they make

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Speaker 1: it work on their own? Is there just not a

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Speaker 1: demand for like, why do you have any theory on that?

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Speaker 7: Not really, it's just that's just the volumes. Why amount

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Speaker 7: of the amount of energy that is produced is relatively

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Speaker 7: minor compared to the cost that gets For example, let

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Speaker 7: me just say this, since two thousand and four, five

533
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Speaker 7: point four trillion dollars have been spent worldwide on solar

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Speaker 7: and wind projects, and they have a three percent market

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Speaker 7: share in terms of providing energy in the world.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Bill Herrick, the oil guy is our guest Midwest Energy Partners,

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Speaker 1: that's his company. We're talking about oil gas energy. Okay,

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Speaker 1: real quick question. I see a lot of these a

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Speaker 1: lot of pressure from these solar farms to just take

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Speaker 1: this beautiful farm land and put a bunch of solar

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Speaker 1: farms right here in central Indiana, and some communities are

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Speaker 1: outraged about this. The legislature seems to be buying into

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Speaker 1: some of that bull crap. Should we be concerned about that?

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Speaker 7: Well, I think again, that's the tax credits are going

546
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Speaker 7: to go away. So most of these projects don't work.

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Speaker 7: So again I don't I think those problems are going

548
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Speaker 7: to solve themselves looking looking at them. But I know

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Speaker 7: in one particular case, actually, one of my partners was

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Speaker 7: presented with the case two years ago for a solar

551
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Speaker 7: farm and they've totally gone away. It's the number is

552
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Speaker 7: just going to work.

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Speaker 2: Can you tell us about the recent survey that was

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Speaker 2: done by the American Enterprise Institute.

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Speaker 7: Oh, I'd love to, because I know you guys love surveys,

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Speaker 7: you know. So Yeah, there was an interview called American

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Speaker 7: Enterprise Institute Canvas Voters last October about global warming and

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Speaker 7: green energy.

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Speaker 3: And they asked people how they felt about it.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, And they also asked if people were considered themselves

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Speaker 7: as conservative or liberal, which I found as an interesting

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Speaker 7: question to start with. And the survey had a lot

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Speaker 7: of predictable results, right. One of them was that liberals

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Speaker 7: are not very smart when it comes about energy, you know.

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Speaker 7: So for example, they they found that fifty three percent

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Speaker 7: of the voters who identify as a liberal believe we

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Speaker 7: should phase out all use of coal, natural gas, and oil,

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Speaker 7: flying entirely on renewable energy sources. Wow. So now keep

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Speaker 7: in mind again, the solar doesn't work in the dark,

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Speaker 7: and wind doesn't work when it's not windy, so you know, yeah,

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Speaker 7: good luck keeping your air conditioning on if that's going

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Speaker 7: to do.

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Speaker 3: Those people think that through.

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Speaker 7: I don't I don't have a clue. I mean, it's

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Speaker 7: beyond me. But only twenty nine percent of all the

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Speaker 7: voters in the survey, though, believe that. So so again

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Speaker 7: just tells you how much out of line the liberals are.

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Speaker 7: But other predictable results, and which I thought were interesting,

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Speaker 7: forty percent of the voters saw the climate change was

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Speaker 7: a priority. I should say only forty percent of the

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Speaker 7: top five they mentioned were striking the economy, fighting inflation,

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Speaker 7: preventing terrorism, protecting your borders, and reducing health.

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Speaker 3: It's only the green crazy people actually care about.

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Speaker 7: Yeah. Well, and here's the other thing. I think two things. Actually,

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Speaker 7: only thirty eight percent of the people that were canvas

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Speaker 7: were willing to pay a dollar one dollar a month

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Speaker 7: for climate change. What was the number one percent? Thirty

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Speaker 7: eight percent? So you got two thirds of the people saying, no,

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Speaker 7: I'm not gonna even pay a dollar for that.

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Speaker 3: That's great.

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Speaker 7: Yeah. And then and then almost seventy percent of the

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Speaker 7: response we're against paying for green energy projects. Who meant

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Speaker 7: paying higher utilit costs?

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Speaker 3: Hey question.

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Speaker 1: Casey scribbled us down in her paper there, and I

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Speaker 1: thought that means she desperately wants wants it to be

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Speaker 1: asked what do you know about these small modular reactors,

598
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Speaker 1: brons trying to sell these this nuclear power stuff as

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Speaker 1: something ind all be all, I'm not aware of anywhere

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Speaker 1: this has actually worked in this country.

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Speaker 7: Yet, right, I'm not I'm not really that intelligent about it.

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Speaker 7: I mean I read about it and they're they're interesting.

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Speaker 7: You know, the data center issue is a big issue

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Speaker 7: that I have because it's going to cause us all

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Speaker 7: to pay significantly higher utility prices. It doesn't provide any

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Speaker 7: new jobs, it takes a bunch of land, it takes

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Speaker 7: a bunch of water resources. I don't understand what they're

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Speaker 7: what the the the excitement is about doing these things.

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Speaker 7: But but yeah, a lot of these would be requiring

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Speaker 7: to be building these little mini nuclear plants.

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Speaker 1: Okay, before we let you go, have a very important

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Speaker 1: question for you, because you know, in my mind, I

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Speaker 1: picture you like you're like a JR. Ewing, like you've

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Speaker 1: got a cowboy hat on the belt buckle.

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Speaker 3: Check how many?

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Speaker 1: How many times when because you are John Harrik's father,

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Speaker 1: I know, we always like to preface a news director

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Speaker 1: at w IBC with your cowboy hat on. Where you

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Speaker 1: standing out at the well and you looked at John

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Speaker 1: and as a boy and said, you're just a colossal disappointment.

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Speaker 3: How many times did that happen?

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Speaker 7: Never? Never, He's a great kid.

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Speaker 2: You ever looked at him once and said this could

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Speaker 2: all be yours one day?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, which is why you got into radio.

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Speaker 1: That's right, he said, No, thank you. Yeah, we love

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Speaker 1: Midwest Energy Partners. Bill Herrick are the best.

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Speaker 7: Thanks, thank you guys.

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Speaker 2: During Friday's broadcast, an unfortunate statement was made. It is

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Speaker 2: not the opinion of this station, Fabio de la Cruz,

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Speaker 2: as a friend of the Urban one Radio group. What

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Speaker 2: was stated is not the view of the station group.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to Kennel and Casey. It's WIBC.

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Speaker 1: Casey, a legendary Hoosier, a big part of many of

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Speaker 1: our childhoods, passed away over the weekend.

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Speaker 3: Bob Hamil. Bob Hamill, I believe, was eighty eight years old, and.

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Speaker 1: Many people will know Bob Hamill across the state as

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Speaker 1: a guy who in many ways was I mean he

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Speaker 1: was the editor of the Herald Times, which is the

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Speaker 1: paper of record in Bloomington. But most people will know him,

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Speaker 1: especially from a statewide and national perspective, as sort of

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Speaker 1: the guy and the media that Bob Knight liked.

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Speaker 2: Named Indiana Sportswriter of the Year sixteen times.

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Speaker 1: You know, we've never won any awards. Think about that,

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Speaker 1: we've never won any Well.

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Speaker 2: That's not true. Were awarded twenty ninth best podcast in

647
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Speaker 2: Indianapolis out of one hundred.

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Speaker 1: So so, Bob, oh, that's not nothing, So Bob Hamill,

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Speaker 1: Like one of the cool things about Indiana are is

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Speaker 1: there are these people or were these people who if

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Speaker 1: you said their name from somebody to somebody out of state,

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Speaker 1: it would mean nothing to anyone, right.

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Speaker 3: Like, there's not.

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Speaker 1: Websites dedicated to them. You know, tens of thousands of

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Speaker 1: people aren't paying to see them. But in our own

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Speaker 1: little pocket of Hoosier, Dumb, they are a big deal.

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Speaker 1: And I think about this, like with Don Heine passing away,

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Speaker 1: was that a couple of weeks ago? Now, the legendary

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Speaker 1: WTHR sports caster who for many many years was bringing

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Speaker 1: you the nightly sports report in the days where even

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Speaker 1: having cable was a big deal. Most people were watching

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Speaker 1: one of the one of the big three, and he

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Speaker 1: was the voice of the Pacers. And it's like, in

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Speaker 1: terms of well, there would be a flow of people

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Speaker 1: making pilgrimages to the final resting place of Don Hein

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Speaker 1: probably not, but in the orbit of being a Hoosier,

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Speaker 1: that guy and what he did was.

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Speaker 3: A big deal.

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Speaker 1: And I think the same way with Bob Hamil, because

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Speaker 1: Bob Hamil was able to get more out of Bob Knight,

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Speaker 1: who if you were to make a mount rushmore of

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Speaker 1: all times, certainly Indiana sports figures, but maybe all time

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Speaker 1: Indiana figures, Bob Knight would be on that and we

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Speaker 1: probably know more about Bob Knight or more was related

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Speaker 1: about Bob Knight ham because of Bob Hamill than maybe

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Speaker 1: any other person alive. And you couple that with his coverage.

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Speaker 1: I mean, while he was known for his friendship with Knight,

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Speaker 1: his coverage of Indiana athletics and those great basketball teams

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Speaker 1: and legendary football teams. I mean, people forget there have

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Speaker 1: been some even before last year, some pretty good IU

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Speaker 1: football teams. It's just like a little piece of us

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Speaker 1: leaves when when guys like that go, because you're not

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Speaker 1: around to hear them anymore. They're all the information they gave.

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Speaker 1: You're like, man, I wish they'd maybe given a little more,

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Speaker 1: and so just enjoy those people while they're still with us.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you had mentioned Bob Knight. Of course, Bob Hamill

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Speaker 2: what wrote his memoir, Bob Knight's memoir Night My Story

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Speaker 2: in the Bill Cook Story. I mean, this guy's resume

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Speaker 2: was incredible when you think about how he was the

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Speaker 2: Indiana Sports Writer of the Year sixteen times. He was

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Speaker 2: inducted into the Indiana Journalism Hall of Fame, the Indiana

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Speaker 2: Basketball Hall of Fame, the Indiana University Athletics Hall of Fame,

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Speaker 2: the US Basketball Writers Hall of Fame. But not just that,

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Speaker 2: he also covered major events like the sixty eight Rose Bowl,

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Speaker 2: the seventy two Olympics, the Munich Olympics.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it just.

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Speaker 2: Goes on and on and on, and he's known to

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Speaker 2: be fair and positive and accurate.

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Speaker 1: And one of the things he did in reading these

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Speaker 1: tributes to him, whethers Indy Starr has won the Bloomington

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Speaker 1: Hill Times has a big one obviously. Bob Hamill, by

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Speaker 1: all accoun else gave back to young people in our business.

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Speaker 1: And I remember when I first started. My mentor was

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Speaker 1: a legendary broadcaster. People will know him by the name

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Speaker 1: of Jay Baker, who is best known as his years

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Speaker 1: with Bob and Tom. And when I was eighteen years old,

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Speaker 1: I met Jay, and Jay spent years helping me become

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Speaker 1: this and I remember thanking him one day for that,

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Speaker 1: and I was very young, but he said, someday you

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Speaker 1: will have that opportunity to give back to younger people,

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Speaker 1: and that will be an important thing for you to do,

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Speaker 1: and you want to understand that until you have the

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Speaker 1: opportunity to do that. And I'm getting to that phase

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Speaker 1: now and getting it. And so I think that is

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Speaker 1: one of the lasting legacies of Bob Hamil is how

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Speaker 1: many people are in this field, in the journalism or

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Speaker 1: broadcasting field him because of him, and that he gave

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Speaker 1: to them and helped them. And so what a great

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Speaker 1: loss for the state of Indiana.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to Kennell and Casey, it isn