1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: Live from val Hartbiner and the Crossroads of America. 2 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 2: It's Tony Katz today. 3 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: Every now and then I find myself being shocked, surprised, 4 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: overjoyed because every now and again there is a conversation 5 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: that involves being rational and man, do I love that 6 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: Tony Katz. Tony Katz today, what are you doing? 7 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 2: Boo boo? 8 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: Eight three three four six eight eight six six' nine 9 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 1: eight three three Got. Tony this is a piece of 10 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 1: legislation being authored By Kevin Kramer's republican out Of North 11 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: dakota And John, fetterman The democrat out Of. Pennsylvania here's 12 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: what part of the measure, says And i'm. Quoting any 13 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: person engaged in the business of selling or offering goods 14 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: services at retail to the public who accepts in person 15 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 1: payments at at a physical location shall accept cash as 16 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,960 Speaker 1: form of payment for sales made at such physical location 17 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: and amounts up to and including five hundred dollars per. Transaction, yes, correct. 18 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:28,119 Speaker 3: It's. 19 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 2: MAGICAL i tell. 20 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 3: You is. 21 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: You the idea that somehow you're allowed to say we 22 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: don't accept. Cash, No, well it's their. Business they could 23 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 1: do what they. 24 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 2: Want this. Tender, wait hold. On, well, MEAN i got 25 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 2: it right, here this legal tender, HERE i got a. 26 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 2: BILL i got a bill right right. 27 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: Here this note is legal tender for all debts public and. 28 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: Private that's on the. One let's see what ELSE i got? 29 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: HERE i got ten right. HERE i don't know who 30 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: carries tens. Anymore this note is legal tender for all 31 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: debts public and. 32 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 2: Private that's public and. Private oh not all debts public and. 33 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 2: Private what do you know about. 34 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: That you don't get to decide you don't take. 35 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 2: Cash that is. INSANE i always thought it was. 36 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: Nuts, well, TONY i thought you believed that the business 37 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 1: owner should have the right to choose how they run their, 38 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 1: business how they run their. Business, YES i don't believe 39 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: that a business owner can be told they're not allowed 40 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: to have. Smoking if a business wants to have, smoking 41 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: that business should be allowed to have, smoking, smoking section, 42 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: smoking the whole, place mandatory smoking for ALL i, know 43 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: it's their. 44 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 2: Business they can run it how they. 45 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: Choose we're talking about the, payment and The United states 46 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: has currency that is good for all, debts public and. 47 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 2: Private therefore you take. 48 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: It and anything that allows you an opportunity not to 49 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: be part of the digital connectivity is, fine now you understand. 50 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 2: That in addition to all my. 51 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: Radio right, So i've got the morning show In, indianapolis 52 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: and i have the syndicated show this one right here 53 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 1: that we're all a part. Of then you, KNOW i Have, Eat, Drink, 54 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 1: smoke The cigar And bourbon and lifestyle, show which is 55 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: heard across the, country And i'm working. 56 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:11,679 Speaker 2: On some other. 57 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 1: THINGS i own a credit card processing company belonged to my, 58 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: father rest his, soul AND i took that over to 59 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: make sure my mother was okay and everything was being 60 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 1: handled and it. IS i would say it took me 61 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: a good year BECAUSE i used to be in that 62 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: world many many moons, ago SO i figure it took 63 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: me a good year to get a handle on what 64 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: was going on and how everything worked and getting things moved, 65 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: over making sure everything was clean and good and. Set you, 66 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: know my father did things differently THAN i would do, 67 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: things and you, know different names for things and how 68 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: you would look at. Things got it all all set and, 69 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: perfect and also kind of refreshing myself in the world 70 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: of merchant. Services AND i said to, you right now 71 00:03:58,400 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: you can email. 72 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 2: ME i will. 73 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: Happily take care of your Business tony at tony kats dot. 74 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 2: Com go, ahead happy to do, It happy to do. 75 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: It IF i can save you the, money, Great IF 76 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: i can, help, Great if, not stick where you're. 77 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 2: At But i'm happy to, help and we do. 78 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: THIS i don't think BECAUSE i am in this business 79 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: on what's known as the acquiring, side helping the, BUSINESSES 80 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 1: i don't issue the credit. CARD i don't think THAT 81 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: i should be able to, say, yeah you can only 82 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: accept my payment only visa. MasterCard that's, nuts that's. Nutty 83 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: that is insane of an, idea and it's. Dangerous it's 84 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: dangerous to say only this digital way. Works and all 85 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 1: this conversation about digital currency and what if we're getting 86 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: into stable, coin and isn't that the same kind of. 87 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: Thing the federal government should not be in the business 88 00:04:56,080 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: at all of anything relating to digital. Currency it's so 89 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 1: dangerous and so. Horrific And i've used this example before 90 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 1: and someone's gonna, say, oh you're being, Ridiculous oh you're being. 91 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: CONSPIRATORIAL i guarantee you this will. Happen if we go 92 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: down the road of digital currency in The United, states 93 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 1: the following will. 94 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 2: Happen you will go to a convenience. 95 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: Store you will want to buy a candy, bar perhaps Say, 96 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 1: snickers perhaps Ay Nestley, crunch WHICH i do, love or 97 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: we can stick to The american, version The Hershey. Crackle 98 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: and you're going to us your your digital currency or 99 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: whatever the chip is embedded or whatever the nonsense, is 100 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 1: and it's going to be connected to your medical, records 101 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 1: and someone's gonna tell, You i'm, sorry we're not allowed 102 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 1: to sell you this candy. Bar i'm. Sorry you've already 103 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: purchased a gun this. Year we cannot sell you another. Firearm, 104 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: oh this means you now have seven firearm arms you have. 105 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: Purchased now the police want to speak to. You you 106 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: don't think that's going to. Happen i'm going to say 107 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: this as clearly AS i. Can you would have to 108 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 1: Be Hank johnson dope to think that won't. Happen of 109 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 1: course that's going to. Happen that's ten thousand percent going to. 110 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: Happen if you have a digital. Currency it's not a. 111 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: Debate it is one hundred percent going to, happen with 112 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: no chance of it not. Happening you have to be 113 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 1: out of your mind to think there could be a digital. 114 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 1: Currency and somehow it won't affect what it is you 115 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:39,280 Speaker 1: buy and whether the government decides you should be able 116 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: to have that thing or not stop it and they'll do, 117 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: it and how will they do? It you, know you, 118 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 1: know for your. Protection it's like when you see a 119 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: cops say, Well i'm going to handcuff you for your. 120 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 1: Safety in mind it is what are you talking? About 121 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: for my? 122 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 2: Safety it's a power. Movement everybody knows. 123 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: It. THERE i watch enough of those videos where sometimes 124 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: everything is on the up and, up and sometimes you're, like, 125 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: man we really didn't need to stop start firing, cops 126 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: like like aggressively, immediately starting with this. Guy and everybody 127 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: who knows this. Guy not all the, time, no, no, 128 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: no not all the. Time very often they're more within 129 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: the right and people are just. Nuts but every now 130 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: and then it's, Like, okay that guy's gotta go that 131 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: that guy not only can't be a, cop he should 132 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: never be allowed to spell. 133 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 2: Cop as a matter of, fact don't let him wear 134 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 2: the color. Blue. Gone can't have a digital. 135 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 1: Currency you can't tell people they're forced to pay a certain, 136 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: way at least in the conversation of. Cash i'm not 137 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: saying you have to accept. Bitcoin i'm you could engage 138 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: in barter for ALL i. Care we, know you, know 139 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: well will you could pay us in in whatever and apple, 140 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: pies you, know like you like the old timey. Doctor 141 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: but of course you have to take. Cash the proposal 142 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 1: has an exception if there is a quote quote a 143 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: device that converts cash into prepaid cards without any, fee 144 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: and that certainly can, exist so it'll be the same. 145 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: Methodology it's kind of like AN atm, play you, know 146 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: like you can do this with. Script you put the cash, 147 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: in you get something else, out and then they accept 148 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: that because what they're trying to avoid is the holding of. 149 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 1: CASH i always thought that this was a weird, proposition 150 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 1: but go with. It so they can have a system in. 151 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: Between the cash is being taken converted to another, form 152 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 1: and then that form is utilized for. Payment but you 153 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: can't charge people for the luxury of doing, so which 154 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: means that if you have one of these, systems you 155 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: can the merchant is going to pay the. Fee you 156 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: understand that the customer won't pay the fee per, se 157 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,079 Speaker 1: the merchant will pay the, fee and the merchan will 158 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: pay the fee by raising prices by Whatever that percentage 159 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 1: is going to be for making that process happens. Happen it's, 160 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 1: simple Says Senator. Fetterman if you're open for business In, 161 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: america you should take us. Dollars i'm proud to introduce 162 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: The Bipartisan Payment Choice act With Senator kramer because Every 163 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: american should be able to use paper currency if they. 164 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:23,559 Speaker 2: Choose we have millions of people in. 165 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: This country who don't have access to bank, accounts and 166 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: they must be able to go shopping with their hard earned. 167 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: Dollars so he's talking about something called the. Unbanked, now 168 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 1: very often this is referred to as illegal. Immigrants when 169 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: you talk about the, unbanked you're talking about people who 170 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: are in the country. Illegally and that much is very very. 171 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: True and so one argument against this kind of idea, is, 172 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 1: oh you're just making it easier for illegal immigrants to 173 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: exist in The United states because no. 174 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 2: One can track the cab much that they are getting paid. 175 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: Under the table at some level of slave, wage underneath 176 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: the minimum. WAGE i don't say that isn't. HAPPENING i 177 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 1: would go on record to SAY i will bet not 178 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:17,679 Speaker 1: knowing anybody who hires a legal immigrants that it is. 179 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: HAPPENING i would equally argue that none of that changes 180 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: the fact that you should be able to pay cash 181 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 1: anywhere you. Are there doesn't have to be a record of. 182 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: Everything this is a privacy. Conversation why does there have 183 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 1: to be a credit card record of EVERYTHING i? Do, 184 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:38,839 Speaker 1: well if you have nothing to be ashamed of, you 185 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 1: it shouldn't. Matter that's not an. Argument that's the argument 186 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: of the small. 187 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 2: Mind i'm not. 188 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:49,559 Speaker 1: EMBARRASSED i go to the local porn. STORE i just 189 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: don't want a pay portrayal of. 190 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 2: It that's. 191 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 3: All. 192 00:10:56,679 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: What, no, no, NO i wasn't talking about. Me i'm talking 193 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: about somebody. Else i'm not talking about. Me i'm talking 194 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,719 Speaker 1: About americans in. General, no, no not not. ME i 195 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: order my stuff online, anyway comes very discreetly in a brown. 196 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: PAPERBAG i don't want to have to explain to my 197 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: wife THAT i bought a. DONUT i just wanted the 198 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: THING i, wanted the sour cream. DONUT i got the 199 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: sour cream. Donut AND i don't want to be. JUDGED 200 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:29,439 Speaker 1: i don't want to hear a. LECTURE i just want 201 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: to eat the damn. Donut, oh so you want to 202 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: lie to your wife who, whoa. Whoa somebody out there 203 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: is lying to their, wife and not everything rises to 204 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: the level of A Cold play. Concert sometimes you just 205 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:42,719 Speaker 1: want a freaking donut and you don't want a. 206 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 2: Lecture and by the, way so does she what what? 207 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: Shit she's not maybe having herself a little treat that 208 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: she doesn't want to have to explain to another. Person 209 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: people are, people and they're allowed to have these private 210 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 1: parts of their, life and you don't need a paper 211 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:01,199 Speaker 1: trail of all of. 212 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 2: It you take. 213 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,839 Speaker 1: CASH i think it's interesting that they limit it to 214 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: five hundred, dollars because that's WHERE i think this legislation 215 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: actually falls. Apart taking cash is. Binary if you take, 216 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: cash you take, cash and if that means you take 217 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: the eight thousand dollars cash, purchase so be. It AM 218 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: i just out on a limb here all by? Myself, 219 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: AH i FEEL i feel kind of renewed by. This, 220 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: yeah it's not the biggest story going on In, america 221 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: don't get me. WRONG i just like the idea that 222 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: we are engaged in a bit of rationality and that 223 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 1: you could have people from both parties say, yeah, yeah 224 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 1: we can fix this part Of it's a step in 225 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 1: the right. DIRECTION i think it should be whatever the, 226 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: cat whatever the cash, is whatever the price. Is if 227 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: you offer something for a, price you've got to take 228 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: that in. Cash that would make. Sense that's the rational 229 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: point of. View but step in the right direction and 230 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 1: maybe maybe you all run into each other while you're 231 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: getting that. Donut that'd be. Nice or you can act 232 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:13,559 Speaker 1: like you don't know each other's that's also. 233 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:17,199 Speaker 2: Acceptable this Is Tony katz. Today so add this. 234 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 1: To the holy crap Regarding, Russia, Russia russia and everything 235 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: we now know about the absolute manipulation of, data the 236 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 1: purposeful lie that took place in The obama administration to 237 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: go after a President, trump, really to go after, you 238 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: me and we who voted for. Him Tony, Katz Tony katz, 239 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 1: today going back to twenty, sixteen remember when they told 240 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: us that The obama administration was scandal. Free oh those 241 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: are good, times aren't? 242 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 2: They? Ah good good lies that they told right. There 243 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 2: that story is. 244 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: Dominating and one of the things that we're forgetting is 245 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: this Story Fox news reporting The biden team coordinated on 246 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 1: the school memo calling parents domestic. Terrorists despite the, denial, 247 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:11,319 Speaker 1: well no, kidding but as with so many of these 248 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: stories just Like, Russia, Russia, russia the absolute manipulation from 249 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: the leaders In, america from THE, ic the intelligence community, Leadership, Komy, Clapper. 250 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: Brennan they, lied they, lied and they made it. Up 251 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: they knew what they were. Doing and what's interesting about 252 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: that story is that we all knew. It, no we 253 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 1: didn't have all the, data but we knew, it and 254 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: we knew When Merrick, garland Then Attorney general always a 255 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: low human, being And Joe biden This Justice department referred 256 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: to parents as domestic terrorists for going to school board. 257 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: Meetings we know that this wasn't some oops a, Daisy 258 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: this wasn't some. Mistake this was, Planned this was. Coordinated 259 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: we knew. It we just didn't have all the. Data 260 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: so there is now been a release that has taken 261 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 1: place of data and includes an email from A Deputy 262 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: Attorney general aid that said THE doj was searching for 263 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: a federal hook quote unquote to use to address a 264 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: letter The national School Board association wrote to The White 265 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: house raising alarms about parents who were expressing outrage at 266 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 1: school board, Meetings outrage OVER covid nineteen, mandates outrage over 267 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: critical race, theory outrage over transgender, policies all things to 268 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: be outraged, by all places where we were told that 269 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: somehow were, racists we're, biggots or we want people killed 270 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: if we didn't do what they. Said they were always 271 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 1: the most gross and ugly and horrific. People OPPOSING dei 272 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: was always. Smart opposing children being abused and transitioned was always. 273 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: Smart and wanting to send your kid back back to 274 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: school was the right thing to, do and keeping them 275 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: out of school and keeping them isolated was, dangerous was, 276 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: wrong was, Ridiculous it had nothing to do with. Science 277 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: we know all, This we had the feelings about. It 278 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: then we knew this wasn't. Right we knew that these 279 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 1: people were, wrong and they were lying to, us and 280 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: they were attacking us of being vitriol, agory, like, oh 281 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: there's something else to play. Here and we now know 282 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: The Deputy attorney general a and his name Was Kevin. 283 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: Chambers we're aware he wrote On october of twenty twenty. 284 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: One the challenge here is finding a federal. Hook But 285 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: White house has been in touch about whether we can 286 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: assist in some form or. Fashion oh so you did 287 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: reach out to The White, House so you did engage 288 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: this attack on parent in coordination with The White, house 289 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: exactly how we thought it went, down just like The Russia, 290 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: Russia russia, story where the intelligence community, said, hey there's 291 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: nothing here that shows that The russians are trying to 292 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: go after the, election and so they struck The Presidential Daily. 293 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:09,679 Speaker 1: Briefing they convene the next day In, december and then 294 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,919 Speaker 1: a month later they established a New Presidential Daily briefing 295 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 1: that stated The russians were engaged in manipulating the election 296 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: and that was the thing that they utilized for well 297 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 1: eight years plus to go After Donald. Trump that's what 298 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: they did to derail his. Presidency but, again it was 299 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 1: never about. Him it was always about. You you didn't 300 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: listen to, them so you couldn't have the president you. 301 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 1: Wanted you didn't listen to them so you couldn't have 302 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 1: the education that you. Wanted you dared to stand, up 303 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: stand in the, way ask, questions demand, answers will label 304 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 1: you domestic, terrorists and that way you'll. Stop this is 305 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: who they, are, man this is how they. Work this 306 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 1: is The Democratic. Party and to All, democrats you're. Guilty 307 00:17:56,600 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: that sucks because some of you are like actual, cratch 308 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 1: LIKE i don't play in this kind of. CRAZY i 309 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,439 Speaker 1: just think this is about foreign. POLICY i think this about domestic. 310 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 1: POLICY i think this is about the social safety. NET 311 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 1: i think that's about this. THING i don't think that 312 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 1: you should keep kids out of, school AND i don't 313 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: think you should be calling kids racist because the parent 314 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 1: are calling the parent racist because they disagree with the. 315 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 1: Policy then there are plenty Of democrats out there who 316 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:27,400 Speaker 1: are not. Insane they just Aren't. Republicans they. Exist they're 317 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 1: a smaller and smaller, group and absolutely in terms of, 318 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 1: voice they've been completely overshadowed by the. Progressives what we're 319 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 1: talking about is the. Progressives we're talking about The Premila 320 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:39,199 Speaker 1: Jaia pauls and The Lehanno mars and The Acossio corteses 321 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: and The chris Van hollins and The Chris murphy's and 322 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 1: The Dick, durbins a man most aptly named and The 323 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 1: Richard blumenthals who lied about His vietnam, service And Barack 324 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 1: obama And Joe biden And Grin jumpierre and that entire 325 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 1: despicable cabinet That biden had that lied about his condition 326 00:18:56,640 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 1: and never once put the country. First, nope their ideology 327 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: above all things and in all, ways and you will 328 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 1: be destroyed if you do not agree with them set 329 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: a different. Way you will comply or you will. Suffer 330 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 1: do you want to, Comply you should. Comply. Comply that's 331 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 1: what it. Is that's the, everything. Guys this, story The, Russia, 332 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 1: Russia russia, story it's all part of the same. Conversation 333 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 1: the political left hates you for who you are and 334 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: what you, believe but most, importantly they hate you for 335 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: not thinking like they. Do that is one of my 336 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 1: original political theories THAT i used to say on my 337 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:39,479 Speaker 1: radio show over a decade. 338 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 2: Ago is still. True this Is Tony kats. 339 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: Today there's a story out Of belgium where two soldiers 340 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 1: part of THE, idf The Israeli Defense, forces were arrested 341 00:19:56,600 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: investigated for war crimes. Accusations Tony, Katz Tony kats, today 342 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 1: good to be with. You they were on, leave they 343 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 1: were at a music, festival they got. Arrested it should 344 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 1: be clear that all of this quote involved anyone involved 345 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,919 Speaker 1: in the systemic or they call it systematic destruction of 346 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: civilian infrastructure In gaza and in carrying out mass atrocities 347 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:30,120 Speaker 1: against The palestinian. Population. Unquote that's what's being a ledge share. 348 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:34,640 Speaker 1: That this is why this group is saying these soldiers 349 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 1: are involved in war. CRIMES i don't believe that to 350 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 1: be true for a. Moment then you have the story 351 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: Of israel hitting A catholic church In. Gaza the story, is, 352 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: oh it was. Targeted israel admits that the church got, 353 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 1: hit they say they regret, it it was not a targeted. 354 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 1: Attack three people sheltering there were. Killed the argument, is, 355 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 1: oh my, gosh If israel keeps doing, this they're gonna lose. 356 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: Support AND i saw some so called high profile people 357 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: on the political right saying exactly. This and my answer, 358 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:22,199 Speaker 1: is your support is not necessary for the reality of the. 359 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 1: Situation here's the reality of the. Situation this is the 360 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,479 Speaker 1: fault Of amas AND i don't lose sight of. That 361 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: if in a war you cannot make a, mistake well 362 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 1: then don't start the. War hamas started the. War every 363 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: bit of blood is on their, hands every single bit of. 364 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 2: It do mistakes get? Made? 365 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,919 Speaker 1: Absolutely have innocent people died? Absolutely as? 366 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 3: War? 367 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: Hell, YES i didn't invent the. Term somehow people knew 368 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: this from the beginning of. Time of, course it's. Hell of, 369 00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 1: course it's. Trash why would anybody want? This hamas has 370 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,880 Speaker 1: been holding on to hostages for over six hundred. Days 371 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 1: what would you? 372 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 3: Do? 373 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 1: Stop, quit give? Up say oh, well say you, win? 374 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 1: Capitulate what's the? Answer the answer from the Pro hamas, 375 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:22,120 Speaker 1: crowd which can be seen out of this group In 376 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: belgium here where THESE idf soldiers are arrested By belgian 377 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: authorities a complaint filed by The Hindrad Job. FOUNDATION i 378 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: don't know who these people, are but screw them and Screw. 379 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 1: Belgium by the, way you've got people on the side Of, 380 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: hamas you have people on the side of the. Terrorists 381 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 1: and any response from the nation that was attacked in 382 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: this Case israel is you've gone too. FAR i reject 383 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 1: that notion. WHOLEHEARTEDLY i want to say for the, RECORD 384 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 1: i don't think they've gone too. FAR i think they're 385 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: doing exactly what one would. Expect you took their, people 386 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: now you, suffer give their people, back it'll. Stop but 387 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 1: The hamas supporters here in THE, us they don't ever say. 388 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 2: That The hamas. 389 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 1: Supporters In, belgium they don't. Care they only like to 390 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: scream war, crime war, crime war, crime war. 391 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 2: Crime allow. 392 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: ME i do not believe that the hitting of the 393 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: church was a war. Crime you can argue it was a. 394 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 1: Mistake you can't argue that wasn't the. Target you can 395 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:36,640 Speaker 1: also note that when it comes To, gaza they hide, munitions, 396 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:43,239 Speaker 1: weapons criminal activity under hospitals and under. Schools, oh that's not. 397 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:45,919 Speaker 1: Happening the tunnels don't do. That as we have, learned 398 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: that's exactly what. Happens are we going to learn that 399 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:52,640 Speaker 1: here doesn't seem to be the. Case they, really as 400 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: you read the, reporting see this as a. Mistake they got. 401 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,400 Speaker 2: This very very very. 402 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: Wrong THE idf, directs it strikes soleet military, targets and 403 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 1: makes every feasible effort to mitigate harm to civilians and religious, 404 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: structures and regrets any unintentional damage caused to. Them you 405 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 1: couldn't Get hamas to say. This hamas would hit any, 406 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 1: synagogue it Could iran when it drops bombs and attacks with, 407 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 1: drones hits any civilian. Population they Can, Drews, Jewish, christian doesn't. 408 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: Matter it's. Indiscriminate so once again we're in this conversation 409 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 1: of who do we hold to the standard and what 410 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 1: standard are they held? To israel holding itself to a, 411 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 1: standard and, yes to an, extent us Holding israel to 412 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: a standard is the same thing as holding ourselves to a. 413 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:54,640 Speaker 1: Standard we aren't, Them we aren't barbarians Like, hamas Like. Islamists, 414 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 1: see this is where the conversation. 415 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 2: Goes but people are afraid of. 416 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 1: This conversation because they're afraid of insulting And. Islamist The 417 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 1: islamists are. Barbarians The israelis apologize when they hit a. 418 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 1: Church there's a difference in these. People why would anybody 419 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 1: be on the side of the? Barbarian but yet, socialists, 420 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:24,400 Speaker 1: communists progressives, are and These european losers are while they 421 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 1: of course allow unvetered immigration into their countries and slowly 422 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:33,199 Speaker 1: get erased from. History they're the ones telling you the 423 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:37,640 Speaker 1: story of who's who through their actions and through their. 424 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 1: Accusations they're telling you the story of who is. 425 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:42,400 Speaker 2: Who and let me. 426 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: Say for the, record and by the, WAY i don't 427 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 1: know Why i'm not using Names Michael knowles over The 428 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 1: Daily Wire. Israel you're losing me to Whom michael Is 429 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,439 Speaker 1: israel possibly losing you because they hit a. 430 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 2: Church, yeah it's, awful it. 431 00:25:59,960 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 1: IS i won't say, NO i don't dismiss. It i'm 432 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 1: not downplaying. It i'm saying it exactly the way it. 433 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 1: Is hamas never apologizes for killing A. Christian they don't 434 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,919 Speaker 1: apologize for Killing what do you, Mean israel is losing? 435 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 1: You the correct, answer the only answer that is humanly 436 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: possible is this is just a great example of the 437 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,919 Speaker 1: kind of people The israelis are and the kind of 438 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 1: people That hamas. 439 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:33,199 Speaker 3: Is. 440 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: Well you, see the real issue is That israel didn't 441 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: apologize until there was international. Pressure was it international pressure 442 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 1: or was it in their own investigation to see what 443 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:46,120 Speaker 1: exactly took place in what? Happened and let's say there 444 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: was international, Pressure, okay there was international. PRESSURE i don't 445 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: think anybody is going to sit here and say That 446 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 1: israel should target. CHURCHES i believe they shouldn't target. Churches but, 447 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 1: MOREOVER i believe that this war was started By hamas 448 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 1: and every single dead, man, woman and, child whether they Are, Muslim, 449 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 1: jewish Or, christian is on their. 450 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 2: Hands that's the. Answer that's a hard, answer that's a harsh. 451 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 1: Answer but let me say for the, Record noles is 452 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: completely off base in going down this road of my, Gosh. 453 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 2: Israel you're going to lose. Me you're going to lose 454 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 2: us at this, rate. 455 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:29,159 Speaker 1: Because that is not a reason to stop in the 456 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 1: attempt to get back your people and to end the 457 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:40,640 Speaker 1: hamas terrorists that are terrorizing all of. Society all of 458 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 1: humanity is under. Threat If hamasque can get away with 459 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 1: taking people hostage for well over a, year we're close 460 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: to two, years. Guys we're in Mid. July october seventh 461 00:27:56,600 --> 00:28:00,919 Speaker 1: is around the. Corner for two years these people have 462 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: lived as, hostages, lived, survived somehow managed to keep existing 463 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 1: day in and day, out under what torture we don't, 464 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 1: know under what starvation we don't, know under what medical 465 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 1: duress we don't. Know under what emotional or mental duress 466 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:26,640 Speaker 1: we don't. KNOW i want, focus not. Platitudes, now someone 467 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: might make the very grave mistake of saying to me 468 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 1: THAT i somehow don't care about this church BECAUSE i 469 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 1: Am jewish and SOMEHOW i don't have any regard For 470 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: christians Or. 471 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 2: Catholics that person can. 472 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 1: Take their own head and shove it up whatever it 473 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 1: is they think is big enough for them to shove it. 474 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 2: Into that, is of course not the. 475 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 1: Case that is the pseudo intellectual, argument but not the rational. 476 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 2: ONE i want. 477 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 1: These people to be able to live their. LIVES i 478 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: want These israelis to be able to live their. LIVES 479 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: i want to be able to live my. Life that's 480 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 1: WHAT i. WANT i want the terrorists to. Stop stop 481 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 1: trying to kill people who don't agree with. You stop 482 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 1: going for a. Caliphate stop thinking that somehow you can 483 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 1: engage in levels of bombardment and attack and other people 484 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 1: should just take. It stop destroying the water supply in 485 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 1: your own region by ripping the pipes out of the 486 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 1: ground so you can make. Rockets you freaking. Weirdos stop 487 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: stop with the. Ayatola let The iranian people put in 488 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 1: a government that, works call Yourselves persia, again and put 489 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 1: an end to These islamists who want to destroy The 490 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 1: United states And. 491 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 2: Israel. Stop that would be. Better that's not the WORLD 492 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 2: i live. In it's not the WORLD i. 493 00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 1: Have AND i am not making this statement that Somehow 494 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: Michael knowles is in favor Of israel being. 495 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 2: DESTROYED i. 496 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: DON'T i. DON'T i don't think that's that's the. Case 497 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 1: MAYBE i haven't listened to enough of. HIM i can't 498 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 1: say THAT i listened to his podcast or anything else 499 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 1: he's doing his. 500 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 2: Thing i'm doing my, thing then that's. 501 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 1: Fine BUT i came across this and people talk me 502 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 1: about this AND i, said, sorry it's just that is 503 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 1: not the. 504 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 2: Case well they. 505 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 1: They say They israel apologize for the. Targeting BUT i 506 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 1: haven't seen proof that that they made a. 507 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 2: Mistake where's the. 508 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: PROOF i don't know if you're ever going to see, 509 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 1: that And i'm not so sure they ever have to provide. 510 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: It BUT i will be reminding people because it's worthy 511 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: of reminding that it's a war and terrible things. HAPPEN i, 512 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 1: concede it's a terrible. Thing not only is it terrible 513 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 1: for the lives, lost top, line it's terrible if You're 514 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 1: israel and you're trying to make the case that The 515 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 1: islamist is the, problem and you go about killing three 516 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 1: people in a, church why would you do it as 517 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 1: a matter of just getting people on your. Side that's 518 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 1: not a way to do. It that's a. Mistake so 519 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 1: at the, end to the idea that somehow this was, 520 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 1: purposeful to what, end to what, value to what, gained 521 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 1: to what, growth that seems to be a pretty odd 522 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 1: proposition in my. View DO i think any nation or 523 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 1: any group is somehow without comment or commentary to their. Actions, 524 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 1: no not at. ALL i think you may comment and 525 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 1: commentary to all. THINGS i think not recognizing who started 526 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 1: this and not recognizing this ends when the hostages are. 527 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 1: RETURNED i think that is not only, foolish that in 528 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 1: and of itself is its own level of, barbarism. 529 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 2: That somehow the owner should be On. 530 00:31:55,760 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 1: Israel Here canada attacks kills twelve one Hundred americans and 531 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 1: Takes americans, hostage holds them for nearly two, years And 532 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: i'm about to worry about whether or not Some canadian 533 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 1: church gets. HIT i don't want to hit The canadian. 534 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 1: Church they're not my, issue AND i think it would 535 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 1: look bad around the, world and you don't want that 536 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 1: in your, life SO i certainly wouldn't target it by 537 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 1: any stretch of the. Imagination you want people on your 538 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 1: side regarding a righteous, cause which absolutely The israelis have 539 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 1: and Absolutely hamas does. Not BUT i don't forget that 540 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 1: war as, hell AND i don't forget who started the. 541 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 2: War and that's the. Ballgame so If. 542 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 1: Michael knowles really wants to Say, israel you're losing, me 543 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 1: he can say. THAT i think that position is. WEAK 544 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 1: i think that position fails to recognize the greater story around. Us, 545 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 1: now maybe it's Possible i'm misunderstanding What Michael knowles is. 546 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 1: Saying and certainly if he were to say to, ME 547 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 1: i think you're misunderstanding What i'm, SAYING i would listen. 548 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 1: Absolutely but in this war That israel is still engaged, 549 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 1: in AND i argue rightfully, so the, terrorists The islamists started. 550 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 1: This they did. This i'm not going to ever forget. 551 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 1: That and every bit of blood that has been spilled 552 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 1: from it is one thousand percent on their. Hands it 553 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 1: is on the hands Of hamas and of The iranians 554 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 1: who support, them and of all of those who refuse 555 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 1: to Tell hamas to return the hostages and end. 556 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 2: This, now this Is Tony katz. 557 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 1: Today we're referring all this to The department Of. 558 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 3: JUSTICE i know That Attorney General Pam bondi is committed 559 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 3: to bringing about justice to those who have broken the. 560 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 3: Law and in this, case, again what these documents detail 561 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 3: to me and my view cannot be explained as anything 562 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 3: but a treasonous. 563 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 1: Conspiracy could not agree With Tulsey Gabbard. Moore Tony, Katz 564 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 1: Tony katz, today good to be with, you The director 565 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 1: Of National intelligence declassifying the information that The Obama White 566 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 1: House scott from every intelligence group that The russians were 567 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 1: not trying to interfere in the twenty sixteen. Election then THE, 568 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 1: fbi Via James, komy decided to pull out of the 569 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:36,720 Speaker 1: Presidential Daily. Briefing the briefing was, struck that daily piece 570 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 1: of information for the. President and then there was a 571 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 1: meeting With komy And clapper And brennan and all the 572 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 1: usual progressive, suspects including the liar, McCabe and a month 573 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 1: later they came out with a briefing that, Said, yep 574 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 1: The russians interfered with the, election and that was the 575 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 1: basis For. Russia, Russia russia and every lie that progressives. 576 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 1: Told it's, obscene it is indeed. TREASONOUS i just don't 577 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 1: know if there is going to be any. Justice the 578 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 1: only THING i can tell, you the only THING i 579 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:15,359 Speaker 1: can give, You and it kind of sucks because these 580 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 1: people should go to. JAIL i, Mean brennan is still 581 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:20,960 Speaker 1: gonna be able to show up ON msnbc and get. 582 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 1: Paid andrew McCabe is still gonna get paid BY, cnn 583 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 1: doesn't he still get paid BY. Cnn the only THING 584 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 1: i can tell you is that election day Is november, 585 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,360 Speaker 1: third twenty twenty, sixth and these people cannot be allowed 586 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 1: anything near. Power All democrats must be powerless because look 587 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,839 Speaker 1: what they do when they have. Power look how they, 588 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 1: Steal look how they, Manipulate look how they. Lie and 589 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,800 Speaker 1: you think this is About, Trump this has always been about. 590 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:49,279 Speaker 1: You they hate you for not doing what they tell, 591 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 1: you and they will not allow you to have what 592 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 1: it is you voted For november three in twenty twenty. 593 00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 1: Sixth vote find everything At tony's dot com. 594 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 2: Tomorrow, everyone take care