1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:06,399 Speaker 1: Last night at IU Turning Point, USA. Event was originally 2 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:10,239 Speaker 1: supposed to be Charlie Kirk. He was assassinated in a 3 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 1: high profile, just gruesome murder and the events will continue though. 4 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: Bloomington's continued last night with Tucker Carlson filling in for 5 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk. Governor Brawn spoke at that event a little 6 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: bit last night, but the main attraction was Tucker Carlson doing. 7 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:33,639 Speaker 2: A Q and A from the crowd, and that was it, right, 8 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:37,879 Speaker 2: no speech, no long some sort of diatribe. It was 9 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 2: a Charlie Kirk style, you know, sit under I mean 10 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 2: they were in an auditorium obviously, but sit underneath the 11 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 2: tent at answer questions for people to disagree with you, right, That's. 12 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 3: What it was. 13 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: And the folks that disagreed with Tucker or Trump or 14 00:00:57,120 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: conservative values, they got the ability to talk to Tucker 15 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: Carlson and just like Charlie Kirk used to do, dialogue 16 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: took place in Bloomington last night. Sounds like everything went 17 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: pretty well. No lunatic protesters, no death threats. 18 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 2: There are a few outside the venue, a few like 19 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 2: like ten, but I thought there would be way more 20 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 2: considering the bar that I you as a campus had 21 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 2: set when Jewish students were trying to go to class. Well, 22 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 2: I still think there's some radical things going on on 23 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 2: that campus, but nowhere near like Columbia or anything like that. 24 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: Here's a little bit from last night. One student asked 25 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 1: Tucker Carlson directly, what is maga? 26 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 3: Well, what is maga? Well, maga is five things. Okay. 27 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 3: Mega is America first. 28 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 4: Which means Americans should put no country before America. No 29 00:01:55,720 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 4: pointless wars period, and pointless I mean wars fought on 30 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 4: behalf of an ideology or another nation are totally unacceptable. 31 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 4: Wars fought because somebody running a country is bad. 32 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 3: Okay, is bad. 33 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 4: Bring back American jobs, right of meaningful jobs. 34 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 3: And then, of course immigration, you have to control who comes. 35 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 4: In and out of your country, or else you're not 36 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 4: a country. And the fifth pillar of MAGA, just to 37 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 4: be totally clear, is free speech, because it's our birthright 38 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 4: as Americans. 39 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: So somebody asked, what's maga? Tucker broke it down last night. 40 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: There was a student, we believe, a student at Indiana 41 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 1: that is a little upset that we're not giving Ukraine 42 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 1: everything they need for this war. 43 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 4: Why doesn't Poland go to war with Russia. If you're 44 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 4: upset about it, I want to you go to fend Ukraine. 45 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 4: Sorry to be a jerk, but why am I paying 46 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,839 Speaker 4: for this? This is hurting the United States. I mean, look, 47 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 4: I've tried to be reasonable. I understand your concerns. I 48 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 4: don't think they're and I definitely understand your history and 49 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 4: it's all real, and I. 50 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 3: Love the polls. On the other hand, this is a 51 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 3: regional concern. Why am I involved in this? 52 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 4: Why do my children live under the woming threat of 53 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 4: nuclear war to protect the sovereignty of Ukraine or save Poland? 54 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 4: Like I like Poland, I like Ukraine, But like I'm an. 55 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 3: American, no one more dollar, no fight the more yourself. 56 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 3: If it's so important. 57 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, if it was a national security concern, then I 58 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 2: would understand US funding something like that, but it's not. 59 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: There was a student at IU that tried to do 60 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: some gotcha stuff to Tucker. 61 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 3: Oh. 62 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: Now, if you remember, after the election of twenty twenty, 63 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: Donald Trump was still protesting the results, and Tucker Carlson 64 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: had a text message leaked where he was ripping on 65 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. I remember that a student brought that up 66 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: last night here's Tucker responding. 67 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 4: I really try to be as transparent as I possibly can. 68 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 3: I think you just scoffed in the microphone. I mean, 69 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 3: there was the text that came out and court final. 70 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 3: Would you like to know what that was, because I'll 71 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 3: tell you. 72 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 5: I'm sure everyone would love to know. 73 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, when the dim wanted, Oh, You're one of the. 74 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 3: Most annoying people I've ever dealt with. This is why. 75 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 3: Oh no, no, but but hold on, hold on, hold on, 76 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 3: hold on. I'm gonna no, no, no, no, no, no, no no, no, 77 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 3: hold on. I'm gonna apologize. I just want to apologize. 78 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: So that was such annoying, But I apologize. Lighting the 79 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: groundwork here, and then he goes on a little more. 80 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 3: It was right. 81 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 4: I was in January after the election and Trump was 82 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 4: saying they stole it from me. And I called the 83 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 4: White House and I said, I'm totally willing to believe that. 84 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 4: I mean, Zuckerbird puts, you know, four hundred million dollars 85 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 4: into the mechanics of elections. I don't think he's doing 86 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 4: that because he believes in good government. Like, what is this? 87 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 3: It's clearly their stuft. 88 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,919 Speaker 4: And I say to the White House some specifically at 89 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 4: the White House. Give me examples, and he says, I 90 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 4: have got a great example for you. I've got seven 91 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 4: or eight dead people who voted. 92 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 3: And the beauty of that claim. 93 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 4: Was it's provable because they're death certificates, and we've got 94 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 4: the death certificates, and we've got the obits, and they voted, 95 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 4: and they're on the voter rolls and we know they voted. Well, 96 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 4: talk about slam knuck. So I go out there, seven 97 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 4: or ten dead people voted and hear their names. Well, 98 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 4: within like twenty five minutes, a couple of the dead 99 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 4: people call CNN to say we're not dead, and CNN 100 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 4: runs this whole thing, exposing that I have just made 101 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 4: this colossal error on the air. There's nothing I hate 102 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 4: more than being wrong and humiliated like that, because, like 103 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 4: I have a staff, we should get this right, and 104 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 4: I didn't get it right, because it's so easy to 105 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 4: check whether or not someone has died that I didn't check. 106 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 4: And I was enraged, and I was just enraged by 107 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 4: the whole thing. And my position was at the time, 108 00:05:58,680 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 4: if you're going to claim. 109 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 3: It was stolen, prove it to me. 110 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: So that's why I had those text messages. Okay, let's 111 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: fast forward this back and forth because this went on 112 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:12,119 Speaker 1: for a little while. Here's the student kind of clapping back. 113 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 3: How come you. 114 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,280 Speaker 5: Weren't saying these things during like on Fox News. 115 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 3: I did the next day. 116 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 5: I you know, And I'm not here to just try 117 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 5: to argue with you, like I really do think this 118 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,679 Speaker 5: country is going through some like deeply troubling times. 119 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:27,039 Speaker 3: Would even argue with me. 120 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 4: You just said, wait to stop, you just it's got 121 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 4: no wait no, no wait, hold on. 122 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 3: You just you said why didn't you say these things? 123 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 3: And I said I did the next day on the air. 124 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 5: Live on Fox News, like, oh, okay, whatever, No, but 125 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 5: you didn't though, like the thesis of your show, the emphasis. 126 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 3: Talking about I went immediately on their cop out. Okay, fine, 127 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 3: what do you mean it's a cop out? I was 128 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 3: completely wrong. 129 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 4: I blamed the Trump campaign for being wrong when it 130 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 4: was probably my fault for taking their word for it, 131 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 4: which I shouldn't have done. 132 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 5: It's just, uh, so you don't take any ownership for 133 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 5: like device, I mean any ownership like you had the 134 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 5: number one rated show in America. 135 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 3: What specifically are you talking about? You had the number 136 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 3: one rated cable. I'm aware of that. I hosted it. Yeah, 137 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 3: I know you had no. 138 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 2: Oh man, I talk about fomo man. I wish it 139 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 2: was there last night. 140 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: And I know we're late and we're up against the 141 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: break here, keep going. 142 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 2: I want to hear more. 143 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 3: This is how this whole thing ended. You're saying my 144 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 3: views are insincere. 145 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 5: No, we disagree. Yes, I truly doubt your sincerity and 146 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 5: I think it. 147 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 3: Well, then that's then that's your problem. 148 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 5: I'm trying to understand it because it makes no sense, 149 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 5: like you're worth it just dollars. 150 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 3: I'm not worth fifty million dollar. Get off the internets. Done. 151 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 3: Don't stop believing that stuff, fifty million dollars, go back 152 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 3: to cable news. 153 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, sorry, sorry, no, but I'm just look, okay. 154 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 3: You're too annoying. You're too annoying. So I like the 155 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 3: last check who. 156 00:07:57,840 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 4: Like disagreed with me and then we could have like 157 00:07:59,440 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 4: a normal. 158 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 3: Com But you're like telling me you're worth fifty million dollars? 159 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 3: What stuff you got? Real defensive? 160 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 5: I just thread a number that's like a lot of money. 161 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 4: Jesus Christ, calm down, don't don't use that phrase. 162 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 3: You're worth we're done good for cop tu Well look. 163 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 4: Just to stop and I say, well don't, no, you 164 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 4: can't not if you say that. 165 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 3: Leaf all right. 166 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: So that's a little bit about how Tucker Carlson does 167 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: things a little different than what Charlie Kirk used today. 168 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 2: That was going down at IU last night. I'm I'm 169 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 2: if you're missing out. I wish I would have been 170 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 2: able to go to that. By the way, I I 171 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 2: typed in Tucker Carlson net worth and Grock. Tucker Carlson's 172 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 2: net worth is estimated at thirty to forty five million dollars. 173 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: Okay, sounds like Tucker disagrees with everything you find on 174 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: the internet.