WEBVTT - HIM 0:00:01.680 --> 0:00:03.240 The Frames per Second Podcast. 0:00:09.840 --> 0:00:12.200 Welcome everybody to a new episode of the Frames per 0:00:12.240 --> 0:00:14.400 Second Podcast. My name is kennth Ban is joining me 0:00:14.440 --> 0:00:15.000 on the show. 0:00:15.480 --> 0:00:18.480 It's just three of us. It's Spike and Ride. What's up, 0:00:19.000 --> 0:00:22.400 good man? So chilling, chilling, chilling, chilling, chilling. 0:00:23.120 --> 0:00:27.400 Uh, we're here to discuss the twenty twenty five film 0:00:27.960 --> 0:00:34.600 titled Him, directed by Justin Tipping. 0:00:34.880 --> 0:00:36.159 Oh, just tiff, I thought you was. 0:00:37.280 --> 0:00:42.000 I got I got it? Directed by Justin Tipping, Now 0:00:42.040 --> 0:00:42.920 You're Good, You Good? 0:00:43.000 --> 0:00:48.680 Co written by Skip Bronki, Zach Akers and Tipping, produced 0:00:48.760 --> 0:00:52.560 by Jordan Piel's Monkey Paul Productions. So I guess he 0:00:52.720 --> 0:00:56.040 just put it out. Yeah, backed got it. 0:00:56.280 --> 0:00:56.560 Uh. 0:00:57.360 --> 0:01:01.800 The cast includes Marlon Walliams, Tyreek Withers I heard you 0:01:01.800 --> 0:01:06.680 guys say earlier he was on Atlanta, Julia Fox and 0:01:06.760 --> 0:01:10.600 Tim Hydecker and some other folks you guys care about those. 0:01:11.840 --> 0:01:14.000 And it's basically a story about a young football player 0:01:14.560 --> 0:01:19.280 played by Tarique Withers uh that trains under an aging 0:01:19.640 --> 0:01:24.240 quarterback played by Marlon Wayams at an isolated compound. 0:01:25.480 --> 0:01:27.240 So uh, that's what we got. 0:01:27.240 --> 0:01:30.880 So man, it's another one of these so called elevated 0:01:31.040 --> 0:01:36.600 horror films and social commentary and we're we're in sports 0:01:36.800 --> 0:01:41.959 this time, and it was, yeah, so we'll we'll go 0:01:42.080 --> 0:01:49.400 through this movie, try out trial something different this time, 0:01:49.840 --> 0:01:52.760 you know, try a different approach. 0:01:52.360 --> 0:01:52.960 With SEEA I go. 0:01:55.720 --> 0:02:02.520 But anyway, man's let's definitely start with initial thoughts. 0:02:01.640 --> 0:02:06.080 I got to the movies in my normal time, you 0:02:06.400 --> 0:02:08.720 know this because I had to drop off Dawn. 0:02:10.760 --> 0:02:13.720 And it had started already. I was like, damn it. 0:02:13.800 --> 0:02:16.200 And it wasn't even twenty minutes in. It wasn't even 0:02:16.240 --> 0:02:21.120 like twenty minutes. Yeah, it had started already. I was like, damn, you. 0:02:21.120 --> 0:02:23.960 Know what I'm saying. I thought I was good, Like 0:02:24.040 --> 0:02:25.200 you know what I'm saying. I thought I was gonna 0:02:25.200 --> 0:02:29.320 see the Cole kimbit facts at least, you know what 0:02:29.400 --> 0:02:29.880 I'm saying. 0:02:30.040 --> 0:02:33.079 But but nah, Yeah, so I got there. I think 0:02:33.080 --> 0:02:35.520 I missed a little bit of the beginning. But if 0:02:35.720 --> 0:02:39.320 just using my context, was he a child first watching 0:02:40.440 --> 0:02:43.200 Marlin on TV and he gets hurt in the game. 0:02:43.320 --> 0:02:44.120 Is that what happens? 0:02:44.320 --> 0:02:47.480 And he broke his foot and the foot was like, yeah, 0:02:47.480 --> 0:02:49.359 it was. 0:02:48.720 --> 0:02:52.320 Like a horror movies. Marlon what he plays White, Isaiah 0:02:52.400 --> 0:02:56.080 White was the dad alive at this point. 0:02:55.960 --> 0:02:58.880 And Dad was like that was one of the driving 0:02:59.040 --> 0:03:01.560 forces in that seeing his dad was like, you're in 0:03:01.639 --> 0:03:06.080 him best, the best, like just just pumping it up, 0:03:06.160 --> 0:03:06.919 getting a lot of. 0:03:06.880 --> 0:03:11.200 Positive And he also said the phrase no nuts, no, no, 0:03:11.480 --> 0:03:14.679 that's no good, no nuts glory right right. 0:03:15.800 --> 0:03:21.240 That was no guts, no glory right right right? God? Yeah, 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:22.959 So okay, so yeah. 0:03:22.960 --> 0:03:25.200 I was just That's where I wanted to start first personally, 0:03:25.200 --> 0:03:28.480 because I wanted to make sure I understood how that started. 0:03:28.520 --> 0:03:32.480 Because I came in, I guess right when he was 0:03:33.919 --> 0:03:36.040 he was in. He was like an adult at this point, 0:03:36.240 --> 0:03:37.320 and he had we're. 0:03:37.240 --> 0:03:38.120 The start of that early. 0:03:38.280 --> 0:03:41.680 Because your movie time was that two white, it should 0:03:41.840 --> 0:03:42.400 not have started. 0:03:42.880 --> 0:03:44.920 That's what I thought, at least twenty five minutes. That's 0:03:44.960 --> 0:03:45.720 what I thought. Man. 0:03:45.760 --> 0:03:47.760 I came in and I was presently surprised people will 0:03:47.760 --> 0:03:50.360 see it watching eating a popcorn. I'm like, wait, and 0:03:50.440 --> 0:03:51.800 my At first, I didn't even think I was in 0:03:51.840 --> 0:03:54.160 the right theater. I was like, damn, I coming to 0:03:54.200 --> 0:03:55.880 the wrong one. But no, I was at the right one. 0:03:56.080 --> 0:03:57.600 I looked at my ticket, I was like, yep, there 0:03:57.680 --> 0:03:58.320 was all seats. 0:03:58.400 --> 0:03:58.800 Did you see? 0:03:58.800 --> 0:04:01.280 The point was pumping him up as far as they wish, 0:04:01.360 --> 0:04:03.360 want the news Clippers and him in high school and stuff. 0:04:03.880 --> 0:04:06.320 That's why I felt like I came in and then 0:04:06.400 --> 0:04:07.520 like he's the next. 0:04:07.280 --> 0:04:09.520 Thing and that's what I saw. So how how much 0:04:09.600 --> 0:04:11.760 did I miss You just missed it? 0:04:11.840 --> 0:04:14.800 Ad So I know I ain't missed too much because 0:04:14.800 --> 0:04:17.560 I saw the title like him come on on the screen. 0:04:17.600 --> 0:04:19.160 I was like, Okay, I must haven't missed. 0:04:18.920 --> 0:04:21.040 That much to show how serious, Like, the only thing 0:04:21.040 --> 0:04:23.119 you miss is how serious he was training to change. 0:04:23.200 --> 0:04:25.000 So I missed that part I want the ball and 0:04:25.080 --> 0:04:27.839 like he was just serious. Okay, Okay, so I missed 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:32.599 that part. So but nah, overall, I was like, this 0:04:32.680 --> 0:04:34.920 ain't as bad as people are making this same. These 0:04:34.960 --> 0:04:41.400 critics are making it scene, but I just felt like 0:04:41.480 --> 0:04:43.680 it just did it way more than the need to. 0:04:45.080 --> 0:04:47.760 I felt like y'all could have kept this kind of 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:50.359 simple and it would have been a great movie, but 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:51.039 y'all try to. 0:04:51.040 --> 0:04:54.480 Get too too too, too too cute. 0:04:55.040 --> 0:04:57.720 Y'all tried to get too creative with this, this, this, 0:04:57.720 --> 0:05:01.799 this idea, and it could have been very just solid, 0:05:02.720 --> 0:05:05.280 not to the point you could still have your windows here. 0:05:05.360 --> 0:05:08.240 But I feel like they would have dialed back just 0:05:08.279 --> 0:05:08.960 a little. 0:05:08.720 --> 0:05:11.960 Bit on some of the messaging and the and just 0:05:12.000 --> 0:05:14.520 the extra stuff they were doing, the extra creepy stuff. 0:05:14.680 --> 0:05:17.159 I feel like this could have been really, really solid 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:17.880 because I think. 0:05:17.720 --> 0:05:19.200 The acting was great in it. 0:05:20.800 --> 0:05:24.400 But yeah, I think the I think the story the 0:05:24.440 --> 0:05:26.320 actors didn't filed this movie. 0:05:27.120 --> 0:05:30.400 The overall direction I think failed this movie. 0:05:31.720 --> 0:05:34.599 For me, ken Rod, this is high on the list 0:05:36.040 --> 0:05:36.800 of worst. 0:05:36.560 --> 0:05:37.560 Movies ever seen. 0:05:40.200 --> 0:05:45.000 That's that's funny, of worst movies that I've ever seen 0:05:45.240 --> 0:05:48.880 in my life. I agree with you on the acting standpoint, 0:05:49.360 --> 0:05:51.840 Like Waylon Waye's I feel like job, he had an 0:05:51.880 --> 0:05:56.839 excellent job. Job, it was just too extra. The storytelling 0:05:57.000 --> 0:06:00.760 was to choppy. It was like you you said something 0:06:00.800 --> 0:06:02.600 that I walked out of the thing like they had 0:06:02.680 --> 0:06:05.200 just told the story like in a regular way. I 0:06:05.200 --> 0:06:07.120 feel like this would have been a lot more effective, 0:06:07.720 --> 0:06:10.840 exactly walk out and you like, what the fuck did? 0:06:10.880 --> 0:06:14.600 I just like some a couple of people were saying 0:06:14.640 --> 0:06:17.120 that walking out of the movie, Like I was behind 0:06:17.160 --> 0:06:19.480 this couple and I think this was their cousin or something. 0:06:19.480 --> 0:06:20.480 They said. We ain't never. 0:06:20.400 --> 0:06:23.720 Letting you pick the movie. It's like I'm sor I 0:06:23.960 --> 0:06:24.359 like whatever. 0:06:24.400 --> 0:06:27.240 She was like, Nahs, it was bad, man, I just 0:06:27.240 --> 0:06:30.440 don't like the storytelling. And like I felt that same 0:06:30.480 --> 0:06:33.560 sentiment as most of the people that were walking out 0:06:33.720 --> 0:06:36.760 of the theater where I want to go see it 0:06:36.800 --> 0:06:37.120 as well. 0:06:37.120 --> 0:06:40.000 It's just it was too much. It was too over 0:06:40.040 --> 0:06:41.320 the top. It was hard for. 0:06:41.200 --> 0:06:45.719 No reason, right, for no reason, no reason. It's like, 0:06:46.080 --> 0:06:49.600 it's a basic story facts, but y'all made it. Y'all 0:06:49.600 --> 0:06:53.160 tried to make it confusing. Why yes, what for? Like 0:06:53.200 --> 0:06:56.120 why did you do all this extra shit? It's a 0:06:56.160 --> 0:06:57.359 basic ass story. 0:06:57.920 --> 0:07:00.880 It was bad. I was like, man, what are y'all? Man? 0:07:00.920 --> 0:07:03.960 I was like this I was it was embarrassing to watch. 0:07:04.760 --> 0:07:06.440 It was like I was looking at it, it was 0:07:06.480 --> 0:07:11.680 cringe manor and everything I had to look around to see. 0:07:11.720 --> 0:07:14.360 I was like, but people was. 0:07:14.360 --> 0:07:16.680 Like super like. It was to the point where when 0:07:16.680 --> 0:07:18.680 it was over, people were still sitting. 0:07:18.400 --> 0:07:23.720 There like just what has happen? Dude? So I get 0:07:23.760 --> 0:07:28.000 some of the criticism that ship was like, yeah, so. 0:07:28.200 --> 0:07:31.280 You saying it's not as bad, but you are saying 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:32.600 it's bad. Yeah. 0:07:32.680 --> 0:07:35.080 I think I think I have to I have to 0:07:35.840 --> 0:07:37.920 I have to call I have to say it's bad. 0:07:38.000 --> 0:07:41.640 As a whole because, yeah, the acting was good. I 0:07:41.760 --> 0:07:44.840 like seeing Tyreek that's the that's the light skinned dude, 0:07:44.920 --> 0:07:47.120 right or the white passing dude. 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:50.080 I like, I think he should. 0:07:50.160 --> 0:07:52.280 I think he should have more opportunities because I like 0:07:52.400 --> 0:07:53.120 him on screen. 0:07:53.240 --> 0:07:56.480 I think he's very unique. I like him on screen. 0:07:57.040 --> 0:08:01.640 Marlin showed a whole nother bag. I thought that was cool. 0:08:01.800 --> 0:08:02.160 We all. 0:08:02.320 --> 0:08:06.240 I mean I always felt like, what's her name? 0:08:06.480 --> 0:08:07.360 What's her name? Julia? 0:08:07.440 --> 0:08:10.480 What's that I've always I always liked her as as 0:08:10.520 --> 0:08:12.760 an actress, like I like, because I liked her on 0:08:13.800 --> 0:08:15.080 GM uncunt gyms. 0:08:16.600 --> 0:08:18.400 So yeah, in the movie Mike was talking about on 0:08:18.480 --> 0:08:21.320 Netflix night, always gone, Okay, I like her. 0:08:21.880 --> 0:08:23.600 So all of these people I like, you know what 0:08:23.600 --> 0:08:25.360 I'm saying, I'm like, okay, they can't. 0:08:25.400 --> 0:08:28.280 They showed up. It's just the direction wasn't there. The 0:08:28.400 --> 0:08:32.320 direction failed failed this movie. And so with that, with that, yeah, 0:08:32.360 --> 0:08:33.240 the movie failed. 0:08:33.679 --> 0:08:37.240 I left this part out in my synopsis of the 0:08:37.320 --> 0:08:42.360 movie because I don't want to influence anyone, uh, but yeah. 0:08:42.520 --> 0:08:46.600 The movie was first released in Mexico September eighteen, twenty 0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:49.760 twenty five, and then in the US September nineteen twenty 0:08:50.160 --> 0:08:52.800 after critics were generally in that negative. 0:08:54.160 --> 0:08:55.560 Yeah, so you guys are not alone. 0:08:55.640 --> 0:08:59.640 I think that I just couldn't believe, Like, I don't 0:08:59.679 --> 0:09:02.679 like this movie at all. I know Nick said rotten 0:09:02.679 --> 0:09:06.200 tomatoes don't mean ship they got it right this time. 0:09:07.040 --> 0:09:09.680 I don't fully disagree or disagree with them, but I 0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:11.720 was like, I think they you know, I had a 0:09:11.720 --> 0:09:15.880 feeling that they weren't that off, you know, and and 0:09:15.920 --> 0:09:19.079 they were not. I didn't like it, and I'm like, bro, 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:24.479 you really just made a horror movie about how football 0:09:24.720 --> 0:09:29.040 is a cult. That's really what this is about, which 0:09:29.080 --> 0:09:33.280 is fitting Spike because today is football Sunday, right and 0:09:33.360 --> 0:09:36.440 there are colt like themes. It's just like, wow, you 0:09:36.480 --> 0:09:37.760 really just this is what we're doing. 0:09:37.760 --> 0:09:41.680 The messaging was fine, it was just too overt, like 0:09:41.760 --> 0:09:45.200 it was obvious and like just too much like broke, 0:09:47.600 --> 0:09:48.080 Like you could have. 0:09:48.120 --> 0:09:51.600 Did something else to make it to drive this point home, 0:09:52.600 --> 0:09:55.040 you know. And and I see and Ken when I 0:09:55.040 --> 0:09:57.240 saw the negative reviews, and I thought it was more 0:09:57.320 --> 0:10:00.480 so because it was a slight attack on foot football. 0:10:01.160 --> 0:10:04.120 You know, America love a football and so I was 0:10:04.160 --> 0:10:07.120 just like, Okay, maybe maybe that's what it is, you know, 0:10:07.120 --> 0:10:09.000 what I'm saying, but nah, man, it just did too 0:10:09.000 --> 0:10:09.560 fucking much. 0:10:09.800 --> 0:10:12.199 And it's like, I feel like the people that are 0:10:12.280 --> 0:10:14.319 going to try and defend it and say out they 0:10:14.520 --> 0:10:16.240 like it is like, oh but you didn't get the 0:10:16.240 --> 0:10:20.680 message though, you know what the message was, Like the 0:10:20.760 --> 0:10:24.120 directing was bad, right, Yeah, the directing was bad. 0:10:24.240 --> 0:10:24.480 Man. 0:10:25.160 --> 0:10:29.760 This thing was executed horribly executed, horribly, bro Like, this 0:10:29.800 --> 0:10:31.720 could have been this could have been a solid ass 0:10:32.160 --> 0:10:33.040 football story. 0:10:33.120 --> 0:10:35.800 Yeah. 0:10:35.840 --> 0:10:38.880 So yeah, so let's let's we're gonna kind of go to. 0:10:39.000 --> 0:10:43.160 Like the first act at the beginning, you know how 0:10:43.240 --> 0:10:45.560 it sets up, you know, his whole story with Cam 0:10:45.679 --> 0:10:49.800 or whatever. So you know, we see, well we are 0:10:49.920 --> 0:10:54.480 to discuss you know, Cam watching the San Antonio Saviors 0:10:55.320 --> 0:10:59.160 first thing win the championship is idol as I say, 0:10:59.160 --> 0:11:01.360 oh White, I think that with some stuff in the 0:11:01.360 --> 0:11:05.280 background in terms of like you can see the religious 0:11:05.320 --> 0:11:07.920 like sort of themes, the sacrifices, which is one of 0:11:07.920 --> 0:11:10.959 the things that Camp's dad, Real men make sacrifices, So 0:11:11.000 --> 0:11:13.880 there's that whole thing in there as well. He saw 0:11:13.880 --> 0:11:19.840 the brutal injury. Then we kind of fast because you 0:11:19.840 --> 0:11:24.080 know he had the injury, Rod and a young Cam 0:11:24.280 --> 0:11:28.199 was he didn't want to look, and the dad made 0:11:28.280 --> 0:11:30.240 him look. Yeah, turned his head and made him look 0:11:30.240 --> 0:11:32.319 at it. And that's when he was like, no guts, 0:11:32.360 --> 0:11:39.520 no glory. Real men make sacrifices. So he was basically indoctrinating. 0:11:38.640 --> 0:11:41.640 His son at a very young earlier, which they feel 0:11:41.679 --> 0:11:45.679 like people feel like dads do because I was against that, 0:11:45.760 --> 0:11:46.320 you know what I'm saying. 0:11:46.440 --> 0:11:47.360 I don't knock it. 0:11:47.200 --> 0:11:50.000 For people for dads that do that shit, but I 0:11:50.120 --> 0:11:52.480 just never wanted to be that dad. I just never 0:11:52.520 --> 0:11:55.680 wanted to force my son into something or live out 0:11:55.720 --> 0:11:58.160 some dream that I had or some shit. I want 0:11:58.200 --> 0:11:59.840 him to have his own path, you. 0:11:59.880 --> 0:12:00.440 Know I'm saying. 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:02.880 So, So I thought that was a good message there, 0:12:02.880 --> 0:12:04.439 you know what I'm saying, Like, okay, all right, cool, 0:12:04.520 --> 0:12:07.160 Like yeah, we need to see this is how Yeah, 0:12:07.200 --> 0:12:08.000 this is this real ship. 0:12:08.160 --> 0:12:10.640 And we definitely found out later that that was right 0:12:10.960 --> 0:12:15.280 right on point because Cam admitted that that was a thing, 0:12:15.480 --> 0:12:18.280 like he was living his dad's dream. Yeah, and he 0:12:18.360 --> 0:12:21.880 had regrets on how all that situation played out, right, 0:12:22.520 --> 0:12:26.240 But yeah, so you know, Cam's rising football star, you know, 0:12:26.760 --> 0:12:28.719 and his father died, but he got his family and 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:30.640 his girlfriend who was alone to encouraged him. 0:12:30.720 --> 0:12:31.360 Was that his brother? 0:12:32.440 --> 0:12:36.959 I feel like that was his brother. Yeah, well one 0:12:37.080 --> 0:12:39.280 was his brother. One was his like homiess homie. 0:12:39.360 --> 0:12:42.640 I think the one that talked about why he didn't 0:12:42.640 --> 0:12:45.800 make it in football or something, because when he was 0:12:45.800 --> 0:12:46.520 doing an interview. 0:12:47.080 --> 0:12:49.600 Yeah, but I think that was his brother. Yeah, that 0:12:49.679 --> 0:12:51.840 one his brother. The other one was the silly one. 0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:54.679 He was actually kind of funny. It was just his 0:12:54.800 --> 0:12:55.880 homeboy or something like that. 0:12:57.080 --> 0:12:58.480 I do so. I was a bit. 0:12:58.600 --> 0:13:01.000 I want to ask about the casting of Tyreek Withers. 0:13:01.840 --> 0:13:07.160 It was confusing interesting, Okay. Marlon Wains later in the 0:13:07.200 --> 0:13:10.040 movie made a joke and called him a African American. 0:13:10.240 --> 0:13:16.040 Okay, mm hmm. But his parents to me, both appeared. 0:13:15.679 --> 0:13:17.600 To be His dad looked kind of mixed. 0:13:17.720 --> 0:13:20.920 Your dad looked mixed though, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay. 0:13:20.960 --> 0:13:22.760 They should have made his dad a white man because 0:13:22.760 --> 0:13:24.920 that that that would that would have made more sense 0:13:25.480 --> 0:13:30.560 than it being like a mix man black man with 0:13:30.679 --> 0:13:34.760 a dark skinned black woman that seemed like a white 0:13:34.800 --> 0:13:36.800 that seemed like a white man and a dark skin 0:13:36.880 --> 0:13:39.960 would have made him, yeah, versus mixed. 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:41.680 Man and a dark skin would have made him. Yeah. 0:13:41.679 --> 0:13:43.600 I was I was I want to say, struggling with it. 0:13:43.640 --> 0:13:46.000 I was like, I don't understand why this guy looked 0:13:46.120 --> 0:13:47.400 as white as he does. 0:13:47.960 --> 0:13:49.520 Kind of like the joke they made later on, like 0:13:49.520 --> 0:13:51.920 you said with Marlon Wayins and Juliet Fox, it's like, oh, 0:13:51.960 --> 0:13:53.120 he looks like a mixture of. 0:13:53.120 --> 0:13:57.120 Both, like you could be all kid. Oh yeah, yeah, 0:13:57.160 --> 0:13:59.720 yeah yeah they said that later Yeah, yeah, it was. 0:13:59.760 --> 0:14:02.840 It was. It was really confusing for me with with that. 0:14:03.240 --> 0:14:03.800 So I'm with you. 0:14:03.880 --> 0:14:06.240 I think cas Dad as white would have definitely made 0:14:06.280 --> 0:14:07.160 a little bit more sense. 0:14:07.400 --> 0:14:10.000 But on the other side of this, though. 0:14:09.880 --> 0:14:13.880 Spike, we do see that happening in the league where 0:14:14.240 --> 0:14:19.960 it's a lot more mixed raced kids that are coming 0:14:20.000 --> 0:14:21.480 into the league. We see with the NBA, we see 0:14:21.480 --> 0:14:23.600 it on Draft night, we see all these mint's families. 0:14:24.040 --> 0:14:27.600 Patrick Mahomes, right, is the immediate go to. 0:14:27.920 --> 0:14:29.680 I feel like that's why he got cast with this role. 0:14:30.320 --> 0:14:36.000 Mm hmmm yeah yeah yeah, not to do okay, yeah, 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:37.000 because you're a quarterback. 0:14:37.080 --> 0:14:39.400 Yeah wow, I didn't even think about that. 0:14:40.400 --> 0:14:44.280 So so yeah, so Rosin star but he gets attacked 0:14:44.280 --> 0:14:46.760 by a guy in a goat mask. 0:14:46.880 --> 0:14:48.640 I was out at that point that that was how 0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:49.120 soon I. 0:14:49.120 --> 0:14:50.080 Was like, what was it? 0:14:50.880 --> 0:14:53.600 Yeah, just like made no sense, no sense. She's like like, 0:14:53.680 --> 0:14:55.400 you ain't here this dude walk up on you with 0:14:55.440 --> 0:14:58.040 all this ship. You the only person, the only person out, 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:02.680 your quarterback, your peripheral. 0:15:02.800 --> 0:15:05.280 Your peripheral is the best peripheral. 0:15:04.840 --> 0:15:07.800 That like, what are we talking about? I was like, bro, 0:15:08.080 --> 0:15:12.280 like it made no sense. Show that he was dreaming 0:15:12.400 --> 0:15:12.720 or something. 0:15:12.720 --> 0:15:15.000 That's right. No, I thought so too. It was real. 0:15:15.200 --> 0:15:18.200 That was real, bro, that happened for real. Like I 0:15:18.240 --> 0:15:20.120 was just like and I was thinking the same thing. 0:15:26.240 --> 0:15:29.320 So yeah, man, I was just like, what is happening? 0:15:29.400 --> 0:15:29.600 Bro? 0:15:30.240 --> 0:15:31.880 So yeah, I'm with you, Like I'm like, why why 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:33.280 did they do that? You know what I'm saying. 0:15:33.280 --> 0:15:34.840 So I'm like, oh, here we go. Man, it's about 0:15:34.840 --> 0:15:38.160 to be something that's exactly what That's that's funny. 0:15:38.640 --> 0:15:43.000 That fast it was stupid because that didn't make any 0:15:43.120 --> 0:15:46.320 sense at all. And then to go to the transitions 0:15:46.360 --> 0:15:48.480 like sorry skip a little bit, like to him being 0:15:48.520 --> 0:15:50.760 at the doctor and they was like talking through and 0:15:50.760 --> 0:15:52.040 he had the stables and I was like, oh that 0:15:52.160 --> 0:15:54.920 was real, Like that was crazy. 0:15:55.000 --> 0:15:57.520 Because you were talking about because that you know, all 0:15:57.560 --> 0:16:01.560 this is related. Yeah, that's gonna get to the next point, 0:16:01.560 --> 0:16:03.560 and I have about you know, how he ended up 0:16:03.560 --> 0:16:06.040 where he's at. But yeah, it was actually real distables 0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:06.640 all that stuff. 0:16:06.680 --> 0:16:08.560 Yeah, I was thinking to myself, I was like, said, 0:16:08.520 --> 0:16:11.000 they is that much? I thought it wouldn't I always thinking. 0:16:11.000 --> 0:16:12.280 I was like, so, they're not gonna tell us what 0:16:12.320 --> 0:16:15.000 happened to his head, Like they're just gonna leave it dream. 0:16:14.840 --> 0:16:17.320 Thing, Like that's what they're gonna go with. Why he 0:16:17.400 --> 0:16:18.480 got the stables in his head. 0:16:19.720 --> 0:16:20.120 Yeah. 0:16:20.640 --> 0:16:27.280 Yeah, So his agent Tom, which is also Isaiah's agent, 0:16:27.320 --> 0:16:29.680 they made sure that we knew that because they pointed 0:16:29.680 --> 0:16:33.240 out the conflict of interest. He has a chance because 0:16:33.360 --> 0:16:37.000 right now Cam was at a party with his friends 0:16:37.000 --> 0:16:39.840 and stuff like that. He's kind of stressing out. He 0:16:40.520 --> 0:16:42.960 snapping at people, stuff like that. 0:16:43.200 --> 0:16:45.040 So he in the tub. 0:16:45.240 --> 0:16:47.880 His agent called and he said going to say and said, 0:16:47.960 --> 0:16:53.440 we're gonna tell a league, you know part. But the 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:56.560 offer is you have one week of training with Isaiah 0:16:56.680 --> 0:16:59.480 at his desert compound to prove he's the next QB. 0:17:00.440 --> 0:17:02.280 Also keep in mind that the name of the team 0:17:02.360 --> 0:17:05.240 is the Saviors. The owner of the team was an 0:17:05.280 --> 0:17:09.879 old white man, and there was some other kind of 0:17:09.880 --> 0:17:14.360 religious reference. I didn't get that note because I only 0:17:14.400 --> 0:17:16.879 watched this once. I wasn't going back to watch this 0:17:16.920 --> 0:17:23.520 with captions on. So yeah, so anyway, so yeah, so 0:17:23.560 --> 0:17:27.440 that that's it. So then we run into Marlon Walls 0:17:27.720 --> 0:17:31.080 and he is up goes run into Marlon Wains. So 0:17:31.119 --> 0:17:35.320 you got to say, Marlon ways like the expectations for him, 0:17:35.800 --> 0:17:37.879 I don't know if you guys had any, but for 0:17:37.920 --> 0:17:39.920 the most part he delivered orready seed it. 0:17:40.000 --> 0:17:42.760 I did not have high expectations for him based on 0:17:42.840 --> 0:17:45.720 the few clips I saw. I'm like, I don't know 0:17:45.720 --> 0:17:47.280 if I want to see him like this, you know 0:17:47.320 --> 0:17:51.560 what I'm saying, But nah, man, he pleasantly surprised me 0:17:52.320 --> 0:17:57.000 as far as you know the intensity of him or whatever, 0:17:57.240 --> 0:17:59.480 you know, we know him to be, you know, funny. 0:18:00.160 --> 0:18:02.280 So to see him in this role I thought he did. 0:18:02.280 --> 0:18:03.280 I thought he did a good job. 0:18:03.359 --> 0:18:07.680 Honestly, I was prepared to see him in a serious role. 0:18:07.720 --> 0:18:13.320 I think from bel Air bel Air he plays Will's dad. 0:18:13.720 --> 0:18:15.880 Oh really, he's straight. 0:18:15.840 --> 0:18:18.000 Like like Will's dad or uncle Phil. 0:18:19.480 --> 0:18:23.159 Will's dad, all his actual like this, similar to the 0:18:23.200 --> 0:18:25.600 sitcoms Dad come, you know, try to be a part of. 0:18:25.600 --> 0:18:27.080 Oh okay, okay. 0:18:27.280 --> 0:18:31.520 He's it's straight. Seriously, he's he nails it. Great job. 0:18:32.160 --> 0:18:35.520 So I had some expectations and he fulfilled him. It 0:18:35.520 --> 0:18:38.159 was like similar to him and bel Air and the 0:18:38.240 --> 0:18:40.399 role that he plays there. So I think again, he 0:18:40.440 --> 0:18:42.639 did a great job. Man, it's just the direction of 0:18:42.680 --> 0:18:45.480 the film's terrible. Like it's like almost like they made 0:18:45.560 --> 0:18:49.080 this without the notion that people had to watch it, 0:18:50.560 --> 0:18:52.560 Like y'all just made it trying to be creative and 0:18:52.600 --> 0:18:54.720 I want to show this to my friends, and I 0:18:54.760 --> 0:18:56.560 got this message that I'm trying to like this is 0:18:56.600 --> 0:18:59.639 for the audience, right, they were like they completely ignored 0:18:59.640 --> 0:19:00.000 the audience. 0:19:00.200 --> 0:19:03.679 Yeah, yeah, yeah, No, for sure, they didn't read the room. No, 0:19:04.800 --> 0:19:06.760 they didn't read the room. And I think they tried 0:19:06.800 --> 0:19:10.320 to do like some Jordan Piel stuff. But it's not 0:19:10.520 --> 0:19:15.040 that it's not that he don't go over the top 0:19:15.080 --> 0:19:15.320 with it. 0:19:15.400 --> 0:19:19.520 He does some subtle like oh, make you think type stuff, 0:19:19.920 --> 0:19:22.800 but yeah, it's not like this like this is different. 0:19:23.080 --> 0:19:24.160 It's like they did it wrong. 0:19:24.920 --> 0:19:28.399 It's like you tried to emulate something he does and 0:19:28.440 --> 0:19:29.840 you did it completely wrong. 0:19:29.920 --> 0:19:35.120 Yes, so we got sacrifice, legacy tops some masculinity. 0:19:36.480 --> 0:19:38.120 Blood price that was paid as well. 0:19:38.280 --> 0:19:41.680 So allo of some opening themes and then we're at 0:19:41.680 --> 0:19:44.960 the compound and things start to kind of take a turn, 0:19:45.000 --> 0:19:47.240 and then we see more of the horror elements come 0:19:47.280 --> 0:19:50.760 into play. We have a lot of different training methods 0:19:50.760 --> 0:19:54.280 that we get a chance to witness. You know, the 0:19:54.320 --> 0:19:57.520