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Hello, Robert and he 24 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 2: is the owner operator of Indie politics dot org. 25 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 3: And Bill kim Chibaz Hello, good morning. All right, So let's. 26 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 2: Start tonight where those of you hearing us on the 27 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 2: radio station, this will have come and gone, but the 28 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,479 Speaker 2: sentiment will remain the same. The state of the state 29 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 2: is tonight Wednesdays, we put our podcast together and Mike 30 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 2: brawn has got to get up in front of his 31 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 2: underlings or the directors, board of director, his coworkers. Oh yeah, 32 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 2: yeah yeah, and give a speech. What to merit this litel? 33 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 2: What thirty minutes? This is not the state of the Union, right, No, 34 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 2: but it does set the table. 35 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 4: And a long long time ago, probably sixty seventy years ago, 36 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 4: the governor at the time stood up and said, the 37 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 4: state of the state is good. 38 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 3: And we will proceed and sat down. He's like Signetti. 39 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 3: Signetti runs to the team meetings. Yeah yeah, economy of words, 40 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 3: that's great. 41 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 2: Okay, uh, let's start with you Abdul and Jim and 42 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 2: I got into this today on his segment on The 43 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 2: Kennell and Casey Show. What can Braun even say after 44 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 2: how bad the first year was, where your signature issue 45 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 2: property taxes is a disaster, and then you piss all 46 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 2: these people off with redistricting, What can he possibly. 47 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 3: Say that They'll go, ask my guy, let's. 48 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 5: Do whatever he wants. 49 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 6: If I were Mike Braun, what I would do or 50 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 6: what I would advise Mike Braun to do is, let's 51 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 6: pretend last year never happened. 52 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 3: Can he do that? 53 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 5: I would say, Yes, let's clear the decks. Yeah, exactly. 54 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:41,959 Speaker 6: You do it in a sense of you know what, 55 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 6: we had a this is my first or second State 56 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 6: of the State address, blah blah blah blah. 57 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 5: Happy to be here. 58 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 6: We have some tough times, but Indiana has always been 59 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 6: about moving forward. Now looking back to the past, here's 60 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 6: what I want to accomplish for the next for the 61 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 6: next year. Now, the news story would be what Braun 62 00:02:57,960 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 6: didn't talk about, but that only talk about that only 63 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 6: be a new stir for a couple of days, because 64 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 6: think about it, how many City of state addresses do 65 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 6: we really remember? 66 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, very few. 67 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 6: I mean maybe one or two, maybe Pence with the 68 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 6: riffer thing, maybe Mitch Daniels with the property tax caps, 69 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 6: but that's about it. 70 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, but Pence with REFRO that didn't happen until late session. 71 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 3: That's right, Like you have a state of the State 72 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 3: about Refro. Yeah. 73 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 4: We I think the legislature thought that he was running 74 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 4: for president or running for something else, and so his 75 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 4: his his speech. 76 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so Braun Obviously, like we said, disastrous year one. 77 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 2: The problem in this session is there's nothing bit like 78 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 2: I mean, there are things that will have big impacts 79 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 2: on the state, but nothing that the public looks at 80 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 2: and goes. 81 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 3: Well, that will change my opinion on him. 82 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 4: I sent a text the other day to a member 83 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 4: of the Senate Caucus and saying, are we that bad 84 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 4: that we had four hundred and forty five million dollars 85 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 4: of medicaid spending? That was wrong because that's us We 86 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 4: have been in charge in this century, we being the 87 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 4: Republican party, and and. 88 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 2: And the irony is you've got the Republicans nationally looking 89 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 2: at Minnesota going fraud, fraud, fraud, and we keep saying 90 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 2: on our show, dude, it may not be that bad. 91 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 2: It may not be nine billion bad, but it ain't 92 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 2: great here either. 93 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, but but where is that forty four? And I'm 94 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 4: kind of institutional because I did it for so long, 95 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 4: But we that bad answers, Yes, the. 96 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 2: Hip administrations for nine years that we've been working together, 97 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 2: you are. 98 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 3: That bad perspective. 99 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, But but he has a chance tonight to sweep 100 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 4: everything under the rug and and and start a new 101 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 4: I'm not really sure what he's going to talk about 102 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 4: because this session is going to go by so quickly. 103 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 4: And and uh, the redistricting was such a car wreck 104 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 4: that what do you say? And and and uh, you know, 105 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 4: the economy is getting better, uh he he uh, but 106 00:04:58,839 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 4: it's not. 107 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 3: For regular p people, right. 108 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 7: The problem right, as well as the fact that that's 109 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 7: like a duel or doing great. Yeah, A lot of 110 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 7: people are talking about property taxes and taking the pressure 111 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 7: off local government. 112 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 5: Well, actually, jim By. 113 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 6: One estimate it read the other day was that if 114 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 6: you're in a rural and rural community, your proper tax 115 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 6: are expected to skyrocket and on twenty thirty one expecting 116 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 6: to go back through the roof. 117 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 2: Well, this is the problem, right, I mean, people are 118 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 2: going to see some level of quote unquote relief this year, 119 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 2: because those that two or three hundred dollars credit or 120 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 2: whatever you're gonna end. 121 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 3: Up getting is going to kick in. 122 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 2: The problem is you're gonna have a flood of school 123 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 2: referendums that are going. 124 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 3: To happen this fall, right, A bunch of them are 125 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 3: going to pass. 126 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 2: You're then going to start seeing in twenty seven to 127 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 2: twenty eight these local income tax things start kicking in. 128 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 2: And so while he may get some moment and I 129 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 2: don't even but see the problem is with the assessments 130 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 2: keep going up. The reprieve on the on the two 131 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 2: or three hundred dollars discount is going to be upset 132 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 2: by the assessment increase. 133 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 3: So I'm not sure people are gonna see that much. 134 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 4: Stavings to begin with, well, no, that our list right 135 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 4: here just fell asleep when you were saying that. 136 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 3: And how you be able to listen to this show? Jam? 137 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 4: No, no, how. 138 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 3: You're prepared to be born right? 139 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,919 Speaker 4: But how do you boil that down into some positive 140 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:15,239 Speaker 4: message that's going to be said in eighteen to twenty 141 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 4: twenty five minutes? 142 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 6: We would argue, my friend, is what you argue is 143 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 6: this job is not done. We always said it was 144 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 6: going to be a process. This is the first step 145 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 6: we did. We did some things right, we did some 146 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 6: things wrong, but we asked you to stick with the 147 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 6: stick with us. 148 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 5: Blah blah blah blah. 149 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 3: The problem is I agree with you, right. 150 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 2: And this is the tune they were humming last year 151 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 2: about well, it's the four year deal, we're coming back 152 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 2: for more. And I told him, and the last being 153 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:39,919 Speaker 2: that I had with Braun, one of the great days 154 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 2: of my life where I knew I would never have 155 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 2: to see or hear from this guy ever. 156 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 3: Again, was how do you really feel? Yeah? I warned him. 157 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 2: When they when they asked me two summers ago to 158 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:56,919 Speaker 2: come over to their party headquarters, I warned them about 159 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 2: getting involved with me, and I said, you get to 160 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 2: decide what this goes. And in fact, my direct quote 161 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 2: was are you ready for this jelly? And they laughed 162 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 2: and I said, this is not funny like so they 163 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 2: knew what they were getting into. However, the problem he's 164 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 2: got is that he doesn't have any big thing as 165 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 2: it relates, and we're just talking about property tax here, 166 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 2: but didn't have any big thing that he is on 167 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 2: the agenda for that this year he went on hammer 168 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 2: and Nigel's. 169 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 3: Like, no, we're not doing anything big. 170 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 2: We might do some tweaks that helped the schools or 171 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 2: the cities, but nothing for you. So what you can't 172 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 2: say we're coming back for more when there's nothing there. 173 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. 174 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 6: Well, we have IMMDIA briefing today at ten o'clock with 175 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 6: Josh Kelly sort of outline he's going to be in 176 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 6: the State of the State address because they always do 177 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 6: a media briefing beforehand, so we could started kind of 178 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 6: writing our stories before and the whole nine yards. The 179 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 6: rule is that everything is embarbered until seven o'clock. Yeah, 180 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 6: so seven o'clock or six fifty nine by my watch. 181 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 3: How does that hold up in the modern era? 182 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 6: Actually it holds up relatively well, because we are really 183 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 6: really funny about uh, people breaking the embargo. 184 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 3: Well, when people listen to this, the speech will have 185 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 3: already been happened. No, not by the time this goes up. 186 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 2: This goes up, but one, oh okay, well, well but 187 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 2: we're taping this ahead of you getting your. 188 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 3: Right and people listening this on Sunday. 189 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 6: Oh no, the story, Yeah, you're right, and so be 190 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 6: sure to follow us at WWC Radio any politics out 191 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 6: of work. We'll have all the latest between now and 192 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 6: whatever happens, right, and so. 193 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 4: What what you what you would talk about in this 194 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 4: speech the governor would talk about is not this session 195 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 4: because it's going to blow by, but twenty twenty six 196 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 4: and beyond what what what's actually going to happen for 197 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,959 Speaker 4: the year. And that's that's how I would handle it. 198 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 2: Speaking of blow bye, you're thinking the exact same thing, 199 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 2: bo Bye. 200 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 3: I mean, that's an amazing I don't know if you 201 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 3: meant to do that or not. That was an amazing 202 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 3: transition he just did there. 203 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 5: A double on Timera. Yeah, bo Bye. 204 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 2: The son of Evan By, former governor and senator from Indiana, 205 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 2: and then the grants and a birch by former senator 206 00:08:56,679 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 2: in Indiana. He is running for secretaries on the Democrat side. 207 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 2: And he has raised like one point eight million dollars 208 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 2: already and he's got one point five million cash on hand, 209 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,559 Speaker 2: and he's only been at this for three months. And 210 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 2: that is so much money. Like, I need more rich friends, 211 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 2: my problems. I've been hanging out with youtuboe guys have duel. 212 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 2: That's a staggering amount of money for a guy whose 213 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 2: party is a super minority party in the state of Indiana. 214 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 6: Uh. That shows Uh, people have hope and they believe 215 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 6: that they can actually win. And also to me, it 216 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 6: says not so much about bo as a candidate as 217 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 6: knows about Diego as an incumbent. Yeah, that's right, because 218 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 6: so many people wanted to donate money, big donors, small 219 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 6: donors inside of Indiana, outside of Indiana, because but Diego 220 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,319 Speaker 6: has like what one point four one point five, But. 221 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 2: He's been doling out favors for three plus years, right, 222 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:57,959 Speaker 2: he's used that campaign. Well, yeah, I mean these no 223 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 2: big contracts Diego bit start crying out for those who 224 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 2: don't know there was a what I believe there's been 225 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:06,439 Speaker 2: multiple companies that got no big contracts who conveniently ended 226 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 2: up giving decent amounts of money to. 227 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 3: His campids for tim ling. Well that's what I do. 228 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 2: I am what you know, Look, spite is my business, 229 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 2: Jim Maren, Spite is my business. But but the but 230 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 2: the point of this is Diego Morales has essentially used 231 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 2: that Secretary of State's office as a twenty four to 232 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 2: seven campaign machine for three plus years. Polling shows most 233 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 2: people still have no idea who he is. Those who 234 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 2: do don't like him. And now you've got your opponent 235 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 2: who is beating you in fundraising, who's been at it 236 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 2: for three months. 237 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, and his father came on the scene, and he 238 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 4: was the great hope in the Republican rule in the eighties, 239 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 4: and and uh, it was something that that the Democrat 240 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 4: Party could hold on tied to and and be kind 241 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 4: of their beachhead. And I remember it was like it 242 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 4: was yesterday, and he was young, and and I've had 243 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 4: attractive family and and and and the whole thing and 244 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 4: and it's just being played over now. And you know, 245 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 4: when when I saw indie reporter tweet about twenty five 246 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 4: thousand dollars from some dude in New York City that 247 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 4: gave blow By or bow Bye, Uh, that should be. 248 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 2: That's hopefully what he'll do this fall, blow By Diego Morales. 249 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 4: You know saw young Bye give him twenty five thousand 250 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 4: dollars from New York. Uh. You know, this is a 251 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 4: serious campaign. And I don't think anybody is gonna need money. 252 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 4: They will have as much money as they need. And 253 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 4: and you know, we disagreed in twenty five about Dave 254 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 4: Shelton at the nomination. 255 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 3: I think I think Diego. 256 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 4: Gets renominated and wins because I think the Republican Party 257 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 4: is going to put everything they can behind. 258 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 3: Diego to push him, but they don't. 259 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 4: They don't want a beachhead for bow Bye to run 260 00:11:58,640 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 4: for governor in twenty eight. 261 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 5: The question is, though, what do you want? 262 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 6: Do you want your twenty year reign to basically end 263 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 6: with Diego Morales on the top of the ticket, or 264 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 6: do you just basically like what, we'll just write off 265 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 6: Diego Morales, just be done with it and we'll just 266 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 6: come back. Hey, twenty years, it was a good run. 267 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 3: Well, this is. 268 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,599 Speaker 2: The fast same question the delegates are can have to 269 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 2: answer on the Republican side because David Shelton, yes, he 270 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 2: is super boring, but he's also super competent and as 271 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 2: far as I know now, look, Diego's gonna dig up 272 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 2: anything on this guy he can find, right, but thus 273 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:34,559 Speaker 2: far as relatively scandal free. If he's your nominee, I 274 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 2: don't care how much money bo Bay has. If it's 275 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 2: three scandal free Republicans Shelton provided, assuming that he is 276 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:46,199 Speaker 2: Daniel Elliott and Alista Shalla, it ain't gonna matter. 277 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 3: People are just gonna straight red and he'll win. 278 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 4: Wait a minute, Robert, you you probably don't remember Rob Bowen. 279 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 4: Rob Bowen was Otis Bowen's son. 280 00:12:56,480 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 3: And Gordon Daranell and former governor of Indiana. 281 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 4: Yes, that's right, yes, and and and and uh uh Durnell. 282 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 4: Gordon Darnell was the chairman of the party back in 283 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 4: back in the eighties, and he pulled Rob Bowen out 284 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 4: of the you know, out of the mix and Bremen, 285 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 4: Indiana and ran in for Secretary of States against Evan 286 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 4: By to kind of counteract the name there. Rob Bowen 287 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 4: did not want to be Secretary of State, he did 288 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 4: not want to leave Bremen, and uh, and so Evan 289 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 4: By beats Rob Bowen. What my point here is is 290 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 4: that the great hope, uh for the Democrat Party is 291 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 4: that the by name uh brings bo Bye through regardless 292 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 4: of who runs against him. And you know Dave Shelton, 293 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 4: great guy, competent and everything, but uh, they would they 294 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 4: would love to put bow Bye against either Diego or 295 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 4: Dave shar I was. 296 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 2: Gonna ask who do you think that they would rather 297 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 2: run against. I think they'd rather run against Diego because 298 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 2: then you can pull all the stuff out of doing exactly. 299 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:02,439 Speaker 6: Yeah, Diego is a big Diego which has the gift 300 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 6: that keeps on giving. 301 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 302 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 2: No, I'm not disputing with you that that that David 303 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 2: Shelton is is entertaining his paint. 304 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 3: But the state is sixty forty now. 305 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 2: Right, I mean, and the Democrats are are the loudest voices, 306 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 2: are a bunch of crazy people. 307 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 4: But but when when you go out to the hinterlands 308 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 4: and outside the bubble here, I still maintain that people 309 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 4: like Roketa and beckwe and and and Diego are still 310 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 4: rock stars. 311 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, but I'll split with you from the sense I 312 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 6: think they're rock stars in the Maga world, but they're 313 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 6: non rock stars in the non Maga world. 314 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 3: I mean, but the world is the delegate. 315 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, but yeah, But but the thing is, though 316 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 6: he may win, he may win the party's nomination. Diego 317 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 6: may win the party nomination, but my money is on 318 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 6: bo Bay winning the secretary of SATs race. 319 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 5: You have enough? Do you have enough Democrats? 320 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 6: Which say forty percent in those ten to fifteen percent 321 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 6: of Republicans who can't stand. 322 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 3: That is the key right there? Will they switch right? Well? 323 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:00,040 Speaker 3: And and this is where it comes down. 324 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 2: With ten million dollars, you can let a lot of 325 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 2: people know a lot of stuff about Diego Morales. 326 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 3: Look, we all have yeah, give me ten millions. 327 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 2: Well, we have no idea how bad Diego stuff actually is. 328 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 2: Ten million dollars, you will figure out how bad the 329 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 2: stuff actually is, and you will be able to tell 330 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 2: everybody how bad it actually opinion. 331 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 6: And by the way, once a grand jury starts coming 332 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 6: back down with stuff, don't forget that too. 333 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 2: Wait, what did you break news here? What is there 334 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 2: a grand jury? Yeah, looking into Diego Morales. 335 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 3: Huh what? Yeah, I've not heard that from anybody. Oops. 336 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 5: You heard it now, are you? 337 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 3: I mean you're being for real? 338 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I guess we broke news on. 339 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 6: The uh ONLs happenings a grand jury looking into Diego Morales. 340 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 3: Robert, are you speechless? Well, I don't know how that. 341 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 3: Have you printed that somewhere? 342 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 5: Nope? Not yet. 343 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 3: So you broke it here? 344 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 2: Ye? 345 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 5: Because remember when did. 346 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 3: You not leave with that? You're a broad cast. 347 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 5: Just talked about the two seconds ago? 348 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 6: Well, okay, there's so many graduations in the Saint House 349 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 6: it's hard to keep trying. 350 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 5: Go ahead. 351 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 6: This was when Diego Morales did his uh voter he did? 352 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 6: He did a campaign ad or was him in a 353 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 6: vote voter registrations and where they were counting ballads, and 354 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 6: the thing was you can't use that. You can't use 355 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 6: governmental self for political purposes. And because it was governmental 356 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 6: using a political online political campaign ad, that's where the 357 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 6: grand jury is looking at. Okay, did mister Morales violate 358 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 6: state law? 359 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 3: How is that not come out anywhere? 360 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 5: I wrote about it a couple a few months ago? 361 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 3: How is that not a biggo. 362 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 2: Very rarely a speechless but I just like, I can't 363 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 2: imagine you're wrong about this. 364 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 3: You're saying it very definitively. 365 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 2: No. 366 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 6: Obviously the prosecutor is going to confirm, you know, any 367 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 6: sort of grand jury investigation one way, one way or 368 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 6: the other. But happened on very good authority. The grand 369 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 6: jury is take a look at Diego Morales, particularly that 370 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 6: election board campaign stuff. 371 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 2: All right, Now, you were one hundred percent right about 372 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 2: the Beckwith thing and that ended up being the thing. 373 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 5: So, okay, we have. 374 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 4: So much to talk about this year, and he's an 375 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 4: alcohol free January. 376 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 3: Well that's why I was working. 377 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 2: Maybe you got it wrong, because maybe your brain is 378 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 2: not functioning properly due to the lack of alcohol in January. 379 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 6: No no, no, actually alcoholics alcohols were like speed bumps 380 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 6: so that it was operated on all full thrusters. 381 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 3: Now, so gummies, huh. 382 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 1: One of the most incredible journeys I've witnessed is seeing 383 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 1: people with intellectual and developmental disabilities, including autism, get the 384 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 1: care they deserve. 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Let's start with this the Indiana Capitol 404 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 2: Chronicle as an article and the headline says, Indiana set 405 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 2: the op out of some of Trump's federal tax cuts. 406 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 2: Now this is related to this tax bill that passed 407 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 2: last year. 408 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 3: Jim. 409 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 2: What this means is, oftentimes states will try to square 410 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 2: their tax code with the federal tax code just because 411 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 2: it makes it so much simpler when you file, it 412 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 2: makes it easier for accountants. But with all of these 413 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 2: things like the no tax tips, et cetera, apparently a 414 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:03,360 Speaker 2: lot of these states are saying, look, we just can't 415 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 2: take that hit. So Indiana appears is going to be 416 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 2: potentially in line. That's going to cause a lot of 417 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 2: havoc with the countenants. 418 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 3: Well, what it is, and that's for twenty twenty six. 419 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 4: The Big Beautiful Bill is the cornerstone of winning the 420 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:23,439 Speaker 4: House of Representatives in Washington, and and and the Republican 421 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 4: Party is still uh. Maybe it's a fifty to fifty 422 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 4: world these days, but they but that is the cornerstone 423 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 4: of everything that they talk about in Washington is when 424 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 4: those tax cuts hit, it's going to be a great 425 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 4: thing for the state of Indiana, and then the federal government, 426 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 4: uh and and everybody's got. 427 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 3: To be in lockstep with that. 428 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 4: So if the if the State of Indiana isn't going 429 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 4: along with that, it really is a fly in the 430 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 4: ointment and not the first time that we have been 431 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 4: so And. 432 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 6: Actually I don't think it's a nightmare for accountants. I 433 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:57,679 Speaker 6: think it's a win for accountants. Accountants just hit the 434 00:19:57,680 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 6: lottery because we've got to do your federal taxes and 435 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 6: your state taxes now, and they're not the same thing. 436 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 6: So if you're an accountant, you're. 437 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 4: Like, yeah, you're always asking answering questions and charging. 438 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 3: For the meter is moving. 439 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:13,640 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Now you're like, okay, So nine hundred million 440 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,880 Speaker 2: dollars over two years if they enacted all of the 441 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 2: tax provisions is the estimated hit to Indiana. 442 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 3: They have already. 443 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 2: Started talking about stuff like uh, according to the Capitol Chronicle, 444 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 2: this federal tax cut on production property. 445 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 3: I mean, you've got are they going to do the 446 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 3: no tax on tips? This? 447 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 2: There are gonna be some people are gonna be pissed off, 448 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 2: Jim if indeed their state taxes are looking way different 449 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 2: than their federal taxes because it's Republicans that passed this 450 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 2: tax cut. Republicans run our state. But the State of 451 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 2: Indiana said we had taken a nine hundred. 452 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:48,719 Speaker 3: Million dollars hit. 453 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 6: And see, that's the thing to keep in mind too, 454 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,640 Speaker 6: is that the citty of Indiana can't run up to CITA. 455 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 6: Indiana can't run deficits Cideviana must have a balance by contact. 456 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 5: You can run debt, do bonded debit. 457 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 3: They can raise taxes like did the past year. 458 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:02,919 Speaker 6: Yeah, but think of Indiana cannot go out and just 459 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 6: borrow money and raise a whole bunch of debt. 460 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 5: It can't do that. 461 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 6: It must have a balanced budget, plain and simple. And 462 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 6: so therefore we're going to cut nine hundred million dollars 463 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:11,679 Speaker 6: in tax revenue. Okay, fine, we got to find one 464 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 6: hundred million dollars and cuts and you know, right, and 465 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,400 Speaker 6: programs go along with it. And there ain't a whole 466 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 6: lot because you're too big expenditus for our education medicaid. 467 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:21,679 Speaker 5: That's that's it. 468 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, and this is this is why the 469 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 4: legislature just went almost dead with that economic forecast April 470 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 4: fifteenth and twenty twenty five, is because the situations that 471 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,880 Speaker 4: the federal government was presenting them. It was more about tariffs, 472 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 4: it's more about the stock market. But they really didn't 473 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 4: know what, how, how the federal government was going to 474 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 4: deal with the states like Indiana, and that that that 475 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 4: lack of knowledge probably casts a paul over budget negotiation. 476 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 6: We can also see Travis Holman right now, the chair 477 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 6: of the Tax and Fisco Possit Committee, just pulling out 478 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 6: a little hair he has left. 479 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, like, what the hell? 480 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:02,919 Speaker 2: Well you think about They had this big debate and 481 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 2: they did next to nothing. Now they are lying and 482 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 2: spinning to people that they did something. But they they 483 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 2: were so against doing the income tax deduction that they 484 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 2: tied at to state growth and that was their own deal. 485 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,199 Speaker 2: They're not just gonna roll over and play dead for 486 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 2: the Trump administration a bunch of things that they didn't want. 487 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 6: Well. 488 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 3: Also, I hear I don't know if this is correct 489 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 3: or not, but there are people. 490 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 4: They are talking that we could have a five billion 491 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 4: dollar surplus because of all the cuts and everything they 492 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 4: did with that last budget. And in Indiana's growing, so 493 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 4: they've got they've got a lot of a lot of 494 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 4: different ingredients in the soup in the vat, and lots 495 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 4: to be discussed, and they don't have a they don't 496 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 4: have a budget to talk about. They're stuck with the 497 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 4: budget they've passed in twenty twenty five. 498 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 2: All Right, a couple of minutes left in the program 499 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 2: Rob Kendall, Duil Kishibaz, Jim Merritt, the program of State 500 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 2: House happenings. We've got just a couple minutes left. And 501 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 2: there was a article again at the Capitol Chronicle. Uh, 502 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 2: and we're back. There's nothing new under the sun. Legislators 503 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 2: returned to longtime debate over Indiana townships. Yeah, why didn't 504 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 2: you guys fix this twenty years ago? 505 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 3: Jim marrick I tried. 506 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 4: I had a bill to consolidate all the township fire 507 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 4: into if D, and that was my contribution. 508 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 3: I lost twenty three twenty five in the Senate. 509 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 4: But uh, you know, it's kind of interesting people talk 510 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 4: about this sort of stuff and wonderful talk about it, 511 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 4: but they can't do it without a budget, and uh 512 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 4: that is that is kind of the engine that makes it. 513 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 6: You can'tliminitate township government without a budget, though, Ken, I 514 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 6: think you can because look. 515 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 3: Did you see how you tell me? I was only that? 516 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:43,640 Speaker 2: Yeah? 517 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, tell me how you educate me? No, because 518 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 3: that's the meanest I've ever seen. 519 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,400 Speaker 5: All the time, you know, no wives all the time, 520 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 5: no wives always right. Yeah. 521 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 6: I would argue that when you took at consolidating township government, 522 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 6: say to the the state takes over the township functions, 523 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 6: then I think that would have a state impact on 524 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:04,919 Speaker 6: the state budget. 525 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 5: I think there's more. 526 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 6: I think it has a budgetary impact, but I think 527 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 6: it's more of a county and county local budget than 528 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 6: it is actual state budget. 529 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 4: Okay, so so local budgets won't be affected. 530 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 6: I think local budgets will be affected because once you 531 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 6: started limiting township government, someone's got to take over those 532 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 6: poor relief services, cemeteries, the whole nine yards. I think 533 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,959 Speaker 6: we've saved money as an administrative cost because we need 534 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 6: as many people. 535 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, there's a in Johnson County. Lydia Wales runs 536 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 4: three townships now because of efficiencies, and she's doing really, 537 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 4: really well, and but it's a you know, it riding 538 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 4: a budget for the state of Indiana, and we just 539 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 4: don't know what what what's left out if you don't 540 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 4: open a budget on something like that. 541 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:53,120 Speaker 3: That's my point. 542 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,640 Speaker 2: They all just need to go away. I mean, that's 543 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,880 Speaker 2: the issue, right, I mean, because what is this bill. 544 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:03,400 Speaker 2: Let's see the House Bill thirteen fifteen. The lady from Noblesville, 545 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 2: Shankweiler is h yes, and then there's another one out there, 546 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 2: and so there's competing bills about what they'll do to 547 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 2: township government. These people do nothing that can't be done 548 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:21,439 Speaker 2: by an existing form of government. Now, could it be 549 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 2: done one hundred percent to the level the township is doing. 550 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 2: Maybe not in all cases, but when you factor in 551 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:32,719 Speaker 2: the cost and you extrapolate this across the state, we 552 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,919 Speaker 2: are we for some reason. And Jim, I'll let you 553 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 2: get to this first in a second, because it is 554 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 2: all political. We are allowing a nineteen forties form of government. 555 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 5: In sixteen forties. 556 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, well right, well, especially when the schools are singing 557 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 2: the blues about the property, you know, like everything, there's 558 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 2: this layer of government that could free up all this 559 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 2: other money, and yet we're dead set on allowing. 560 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 3: It to continue to exist. It blows my mind. And 561 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 3: you know the politics of it. 562 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 4: Local officials are still so upset about Centate Bill one. 563 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 4: Uh and and they're really the they're the foundation of 564 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 4: the Republican Party and the Democrat Party. 565 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 3: Uh. Legislators are not. 566 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 4: Going to visit this in a in a vacuum in 567 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,880 Speaker 4: the next six weeks, eight weeks. It's just a It's 568 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 4: an archaic system, there's no question about it. But they're 569 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 4: not going to want to rock the boat any more 570 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,400 Speaker 4: than already has happened in an election year. 571 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 5: I agree. 572 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 3: So you so you don't. Is this a tee up 573 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 3: for next year? Then? 574 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,120 Speaker 4: You know, it just all depends on on the give 575 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 4: and take. I think that we ought to be continually 576 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 4: continually looking at local government and consolidation of it. Somebody 577 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,439 Speaker 4: is going to have to do, uh understand what what 578 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 4: township fire or county fire. 579 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 3: Does and and administrate it. Uh. 580 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 4: Some of the services that that townships do are or 581 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 4: are in charge of administry rate have to be assorted 582 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 4: by other offices. And that that that's something that that 583 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,159 Speaker 4: you just can't do in a in a vacuum, you 584 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 4: have to have some sort of plan to take over 585 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 4: the services, no question about it. 586 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 6: I remember when tonsugub was invented. Tonsugun was more than 587 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 6: a day's ride from the county line. 588 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 3: It's a horse, a horse, we were on horse. 589 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 2: Yes, we are tasting giving money to things that were 590 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,360 Speaker 2: invented when people were on horses. 591 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 5: I got some by the saloon of the Angel cells man. 592 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 3: Right. 593 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 4: And you know one call from a county commissioner to 594 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 4: a state senator, to a state representatives and saying we 595 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 4: can't do this right now that that's kind of kind 596 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 4: of cool, uh, the idea and in the different chambers 597 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 4: of the India and General Assembly, all. 598 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 3: Right, we'll give you oz. 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